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samndean4eva
09-01-2007, 04:25 AM
I can't wait to see Kristin Bell on heroes when it comes back on air.
I hear she's playing a character called Elle, and that she will be linked to Claire, HRG, and Peter. Personally i hope that shes like Claires friend or cousin or something, and i think Kristin and Milo would make a good couple on the show? (only if claire and elle are not related... lol)

I wonder if shes going to be good or bad?

Any ideas???

closetclana
09-07-2007, 08:32 AM
I just read about this at the newsstand waiting in line at the grocery store. I was really excited to see that Kristin Bell was joining the cast. I'm not a dedicated Hero's fan but I'm going to give it a try next season just because of Kristin.

In the article it said she passed over a spot on "Lost" and that she has a really cool power. She also said she hopes that she is bad (but she didn't seem to know for sure.)

No wonder she didn't get considered for Kara on SV - with two of network TV's biggest shows pounding down her door.

samndean4eva
09-08-2007, 06:13 AM
Yeah she would have made a really good Kara, but i don't know whether she would would have accepted the role anyway. From being the main character in a show to just a back-up... Heroes and Lost are a little different, i mean there is not really a main character, its a story that revolves around multiple stories and people.

I've heard her power is going to be something to do with electricity... It's going to be exciting.

Vampire
10-04-2007, 11:48 PM
I'm so excited that Kristen's going to be on Heroes. I absolutely adore both Heroes and Kristen. I was so disappointed when I heard that VM was cancelled, but this makes me feel alot better. I was afraid that Kristen might fade away, but now she won't. Kristen's a great actress and I'm glad we'll be seeing more of her. As for her character, Elle, I can't wait to find out more about her. I'm sure she'll be awesome! :)

taurus5382
10-28-2007, 03:46 PM
It's very refreshing to see K-Bell on prime time TV again.

MidgardDragon
10-28-2007, 03:58 PM
Not being a fan of KB in the first place I went in with no expectations for her acting or her character, but I was sorely disappointed nonetheless. I hope she steps it up a notch the next time she's on. Right now I wish she'd go away and give screen time to more interesting characters.

The Ninth Doctor
10-29-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Not being a fan of KB in the first place I went in with no expectations for her acting or her character, but I was sorely disappointed nonetheless. I hope she steps it up a notch the next time she's on. Right now I wish she'd go away and give screen time to more interesting characters.

I believe that when Matt's story was developing people thought that he too was an uninteresting character and a bad actor.

Of course we all now know that both Matt and Greg Grunberg are awesome.


Bell is a seriously great actress. Just giver her time for her character to develop.

Mello Penelo
10-29-2007, 07:42 PM
It's Kristen. Not Kristin.

zeRro727
10-31-2007, 10:45 PM
well I'm excited that Kristen is going to be in Heroes!

I miss her show.. and Her, of course..

... the former Neptune Detective is finally going to be a Hero!

Mello Penelo
10-31-2007, 11:03 PM
And it gets her away from that horrible, horrible Gossip Girl. :\

The Ninth Doctor
01-01-2008, 12:20 PM
Well, it seems that peoples opinions of Elle and Bell have now changed, since last we spoke...


Hey, anyone know when Fanboys comes out?

lauraforever
01-01-2008, 12:24 PM
She's so awesome!!! She also has killer quotes on Heroes.
Like "What's your superpower? Punching Bag?" I was rolling off the floor when I heard that.

The Ninth Doctor
01-02-2008, 06:01 PM
She has good one liners here, but they're nothing compared to the one liners of Veronica Mars.

Xanderman
01-03-2008, 01:37 AM
^VM and the character are such a ripoff of Buffy, lol...I bought the dvds on recommendation and I'm still on season 1 right now, and I cringe every time Veronica says something incredibly witty and smart, way beyond her years, which as it turns out is ALL THE FREAKIN' TIME.:lol: She's only a high school kid for christ's sake. lol

They could have set the series in college instead, I probably wouldn't be so annoyed by VM's super-genius and impossibly advanced maturity then.

Again to me, the writing style mirrors Buffy so much it's criminal. Veronica is clearly a total clone of Buffy Summers.

The Ninth Doctor
01-03-2008, 11:01 AM
Ok, I'm on the first season box set as well, and admittedly have never seen Buffy. So I don't hvae a comment pertaining to that, but as for her maturity, you'd be surprised at the maturity level of many high school aged kids today. And also surprised at the extreme anti-maturity of others.

Xanderman
01-04-2008, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
Ok, I'm on the first season box set as well, and admittedly have never seen Buffy. So I don't hvae a comment pertaining to that, but as for her maturity, you'd be surprised at the maturity level of many high school aged kids today. And also surprised at the extreme anti-maturity of others. You're also on S1 eh? Cool, how far? I'm up to ep 16.

Yeah you're sort of right about the maturity thing, especially since she's a girl, it's well known that girls tend to mature quicker (for whatever reason). Plus losing her mother, best friend to murder, getting date-raped etc, probably accelerated the maturing process no doubt. But what I really have a problem with is the things that come out of her mouth. Her sarcasm and wit is razor sharp perfect all the time, how her mind can process and come up with the amazing comebacks and other things she says so quickly and constantly is beyond impossible for almost anyone anywhere I'm sure, much less a high school girl. I know it's just tv and a fictional show, but still, it's a little too extreme.

If you enjoy VM, I highly recommend Buffy the Vampire Slayer and the spinoff series Angel, as the writing style of VM seems to have been definitely inspired by these (superior) shows in many ways, and Veronica is basically Buffy in a lot of ways. Angel starts off after the events of Season 3 of Buffy I believe so you should watch the first 3 Buffy seasons first. And the sets are much cheaper than they used to be, and are often available at amazing sale prices so it's a great time to collect.

The Ninth Doctor
01-04-2008, 02:08 PM
Not sure what episode number, but I remember it was on Disc Five, Hot Dogs. Or something like that. It was the first episode where I thought they went a little over the top with it. But I suppose that was because of the relatively unentertaining main plot of the episode, and they needed something to cover that up. Or something.

Hmm... Possible explanation for her immense wit: she religiously watches Buffy?


I really do want to check out Buffy- but I'm already collecting way too many series as box sets (and behind on the ones I have), and the occult themes turn me off a bit. I'll try and borrow a disc from one of my friends (I'm sure someone I know has one) or go to Amazon unbox or something.


Anyway, being the massive spoiler magnet I am, the ending to the first season has already been spoiled for me. DO NOT read the interview with Kristin Bell about how she was almost cast as Chloe Sullivan. Trust me. (It also had spoilers to the end of the second season, but upon seeing the first ones I immediately exited.)

boberthavok
01-09-2008, 03:03 PM
I feel like i almost feel in love with Kristen the first time i saw her on Heroes. I noticed how great of an actress she is and not to mention how beautiful she is. So of course after that i checked out Veronica Mars(which i have seen the whole series 2 times already in like a month and a half). Now I am checking out her movies. So far i have seen Reefer Madness(which is also the first musical i sat all the way through), 50 Pills, Deepwater(which she is only in like maybe 10 mins fully), Spartan, and Pulse(which i bought also). She is just the perfect example of what a Hollywood actress should be.

pacofajita
01-09-2008, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by boberthavok
50 Pills

That movie is so hilarious. I can't get over the scene in the dorm room. "I'm such a slut." :lol: "My roommate's a slut. I'm a slut." :rotfl:

Xanderman
01-11-2008, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
Hmm... Possible explanation for her immense wit: she religiously watches Buffy? Lol sure why not. It's not always bad, but they do go a bit overboard on occasion -- especially with the things she says in her narrations or thoughts (in which she sounds virtually identical to Sarah Jessica Parker from Sex and the City, lol). Near the end of S1 her dad told someone that Veronica wasn't your average 17 year old or something like that, I liked that they did that because it covers the super genius thing I'm complaining about so I can just shut up about it already and move on.:lol: I finished S1 recently and am on 2 now btw. Awesome end to the season, best ep of the season too imo. Season 2 didn't quite pick up where 1 ended, it sort of felt flat. I've seen the first 3 eps so far, so far nothing too impressive.

Anyway, being the massive spoiler magnet I am, the ending to the first season has already been spoiled for me. DO NOT read the interview with Kristin Bell about how she was almost cast as Chloe Sullivan. Trust me. (It also had spoilers to the end of the second season, but upon seeing the first ones I immediately exited.)
I didn't see that extra but I could definitely see her as Chloe, and AM as Veronica for that matter, sort of works both ways. I make it a point not to view extras until after I'm done a season as I've been spoiled before too. Especially with shows you've never seen before, it's best to stay away until season end, or even series end.

The Ninth Doctor
01-12-2008, 12:21 PM
It wasn't an extra, it was an interview on the internet. I generally do wait to watch the extras until the end. But somehow, no matter how hard I try to avoid them, the spoilers attack me from hidden areas.

I think I heard somewhere that originaly Veronica Mars was going to be a Chloe Sullivan spinoff, with her leaving Smallville after her season 3 "death", but they decided to keep her in SM early in pre-production, and go ahead with the spinoff as an original.

boberthavok
01-12-2008, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
It wasn't an extra, it was an interview on the internet. I generally do wait to watch the extras until the end. But somehow, no matter how hard I try to avoid them, the spoilers attack me from hidden areas.

I think I heard somewhere that originaly Veronica Mars was going to be a Chloe Sullivan spinoff, with her leaving Smallville after her season 3 "death", but they decided to keep her in SM early in pre-production, and go ahead with the spinoff as an original.


That is so far from the truth though. Rob Thomas had the idea of doing a teen noir type show since i believe late 80's early 90's. It was orginally going to be about a boy though. Then he decided at some point to turn the teen into a girl. Then he heard about UPN wanting a show about a teenaged girl but different from what the normal teen girl show was like. So Rob pitched the idea to UPN and they liked it. So Veronica Mars was never conected to Smallville except how Chloe and Veronica are kind of a like. Also how Kristen and Allison look a tiny bit a like.

pacofajita
01-12-2008, 06:10 PM
And Kristen auditioned for Chloe's role. As much as I like AM as Chloe, I would have loved KB just as much in the Chloe role.

boberthavok
01-12-2008, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by pacofajita
And Kristen auditioned for Chloe's role. As much as I like AM as Chloe, I would have loved KB just as much in the Chloe role.

I love KB she is my favorite actress. But after seeing AM as Chloe i don't think anyone else could pull it off. Just like i could see no one being Veronica Mars except for KB.

The Ninth Doctor
01-16-2008, 04:39 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. I don't recall where I heard it, it was probably some random forum poster's theory or something.

boberthavok
01-16-2008, 06:13 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. I don't recall where I heard it, it was probably some random forum poster's theory or something.


No problem. I also found out that Veronica Mars was going to be a book before they decided to turn it into a script.

pacofajita
01-16-2008, 06:22 PM
Maybe they still should. I'd love continuing adventures.

boberthavok
01-16-2008, 08:43 PM
Maybe they still should. I'd love continuing adventures.


I would take Veronica Mars anyway they will give it to us. No matter what it is. Movie, TV movie, Straight to DVD movie, Online only show, Comic Book, Novels. I loved Veronica Mars and wish i would have watched when it firsted aired.

pacofajita
01-17-2008, 12:51 AM
There need to be novels. Spawn them into a series. Yes.

Xanderman
01-18-2008, 02:30 PM
I'm into Veronica Mars' 2nd season on dvd now, and all of the sudden Kristen Bell ain't lookin' so cutesy teen anymore. lol

She's 27 now, and that means in the 2nd season which aired around 2005/06, she was around 25 playing an 18 year old. And it shows...

Anyway just thought I'd point that out, sort of reminds me of the whole Tom Welling/Clark Kent fiasco (but obviously to a lesser extent :lol: ).

Pa Mars: Veronica...you're looking....OLD...how old are you again?
Veronica: What do you mean? I'm just a cutesy 18 year old, can't you tell by the way I act and dress? Tee hee!;)
Pa Mars: Oookay....either way I think it would be a good idea for you to stay away from the sun, and from cigarettes -- and from mirrors. :lol:

boberthavok
01-18-2008, 02:36 PM
I'm into Veronica Mars' 2nd season on dvd now, and all of the sudden Kristen Bell ain't lookin' so cutesy teen anymore. lol

She's 27 now, and that means in the 2nd season which aired around 2005/06, she was around 25 playing an 18 year old. And it shows...

Anyway just thought I'd point that out, sort of reminds me of the whole Tom Welling/Clark Kent fiasco (but obviously to a lesser extent :lol: ).

Pa Mars: Veronica...you're looking....OLD...how old are you again?
Veronica: What do you mean? I'm just a cutesy 18 year old, can't you tell by the way I act and dress? Tee hee!;)
Pa Mars: Oookay....either way I think it would be a good idea for you to stay away from the sun, and from cigarettes -- and from mirrors. :lol:



It is a TV show. No one is the age they play. Every show does this. Kristen for the most part looked close enough to the age. Well atleast better then other Teen drama shows that Veronica is placed with

The Ninth Doctor
01-19-2008, 10:27 AM
Just finished the first season. Amazing final episode. The big reveal would have been so amazing if I had no foreknowledge. Can't wait to start season 2! (Or actually, can't wait until the price goes down on amazon again so that I can afford season 2.)

Oh, and thank goodness about that reveal concerning duncan and Veronica. The ick factor finally went down.

boberthavok
01-19-2008, 01:10 PM
I'm into Veronica Mars' 2nd season on dvd now, and all of the sudden Kristen Bell ain't lookin' so cutesy teen anymore. lol


Hey I didn't even read that part. Kristen Bell is always cute.

Xanderman
01-22-2008, 01:04 AM
It is a TV show. No one is the age they play. Every show does this. Kristen for the most part looked close enough to the age. Well atleast better then other Teen drama shows that Veronica is placed withYeah I realize that, that doesn't mean we can't poke fun. Comedies/parodies, especially on tv, do it all the time. Also, while your comment is true in a lot of cases, exceptions do exist. Hayden and her character Claire aren't that different in age on Heroes, for example.


Hey I didn't even read that part. Kristen Bell is always cute.I didn't say she wasn't, she just isn't a "cutesy teen", no matter how hard she or the show try to make us believe. Wow you're really defensive of this particular celebrity. lol


Just finished the first season. Amazing final episode. The big reveal would have been so amazing if I had no foreknowledge. Can't wait to start season 2! (Or actually, can't wait until the price goes down on amazon again so that I can afford season 2.)

Oh, and thank goodness about that reveal concerning duncan and Veronica. The ick factor finally went down.(warning Season 1 spoiler ahead) Right on, great finale, best ep of the season. Luckily for me I was totally surprised by it so I got the full effect. And I also liked that Duncan and V didn't end up being sibs, that was definitely pleasant.:cool: :lol:

pacofajita
01-22-2008, 05:53 AM
Hey I didn't even read that part. Kristen Bell is always cute.

More like bone-worthy. :lol:

Xanderman
01-22-2008, 12:34 PM
^lol

You just reminded me of something from a S2 ep of VM I saw a short time back. There was this bit involving Wallace (I think that's his name, V's best friend) and his little brother, a little brother that to me came out of nowhere. (Did the kid even exist in the first season?? Lol must have completely slipped by me.) Anyway the mom was talking to Wallace about his new girlfriend, and his little bro, who looked like he was only 6 or 7, said "Did you hit that yet?" Wtf?? Lol a kid that young would never say something like that, he doesn't (or at least shouldn't) be emotionally or intellectually mature enough to come up with such a line or be able to use it so effectively dead-on in the right context like that. Ridiculous. Lol, but I guess that's just another day in the world of Veronica Mars, where everyone (that includes 6 yr olds) is way smarter (or more adult) than they should, and in some cases, possibly CAN be. lol

pacofajita
01-22-2008, 04:38 PM
Oh man, that was hilarious. :lol:

The Ninth Doctor
01-22-2008, 06:29 PM
^lol

(Did the kid even exist in the first season?? ...Lol a kid that young would never say something like that, he doesn't (or at least shouldn't) be emotionally or intellectually mature enough to come up with such a line

I can say with certainty that he did not exist in the first season. Never shown, never mentioned. And that's seriously unforgivable, to throw in a character like that with no explanation.

Unfortunately, I can see a six or seven year old in today's culture spouting stuff like that. That kind of thought is slowly permeating younger and younger kids. They don't understand it, but in my experience some little kids do respond in that kind of manner.
(If the kid was intentionally joking, then yah, it's unrealistic for him to pull it off. I think the one suspension of disbelief on Veronica Mars is, besides the generic mystery trope of the-guy-who-was-introduced-barely-earlier-in-the-episode-but-either-not-much-was-revealed-about-him-or-it-was-heavily-suggested-that-he-couldn't/wouldn't-have-done-it-did-it, is that humans have a wit 10x that of us)

Xanderman
01-23-2008, 04:08 PM
It was bizarre, all of the sudden there he was, with Wallace and his mom at the breakfast table. Lol I kept thinking I just missed a proper introduction or just completely forgot about it or something....but you've confirmed my suspicions. Still, when you watch S2 maybe you'll catch something I missed...

And you're right on about the wit x10 on VM.

boberthavok
02-07-2008, 08:57 AM
^lol

You just reminded me of something from a S2 ep of VM I saw a short time back. There was this bit involving Wallace (I think that's his name, V's best friend) and his little brother, a little brother that to me came out of nowhere. (Did the kid even exist in the first season?? Lol must have completely slipped by me.) Anyway the mom was talking to Wallace about his new girlfriend, and his little bro, who looked like he was only 6 or 7, said "Did you hit that yet?" Wtf?? Lol a kid that young would never say something like that, he doesn't (or at least shouldn't) be emotionally or intellectually mature enough to come up with such a line or be able to use it so effectively dead-on in the right context like that. Ridiculous. Lol, but I guess that's just another day in the world of Veronica Mars, where everyone (that includes 6 yr olds) is way smarter (or more adult) than they should, and in some cases, possibly CAN be. lol


It is a TV show. What do you expect. It has to have little things like that.

Also yes Wallaces little brother was in season 1. He was in a couple episodes for season 1. But oddly enough in season 2 I don't think he was there when Wallace graduated from High School.


Also it's not that I am defensive about her. I just didn't see much of a change in her look from season 1 to season 2. Now Season 3 you can notice a differance.

The Ninth Doctor
02-08-2008, 05:00 PM
Really? Because I watched all of season 1 back to back to back, and I don't remember him at all. Maybe he was just not that memorable.

EDIT: Turns out he was in a season one ep: 8, Like a Virgin, the one with the purity test (from IMDB). I still don't remember him though.

boberthavok
02-08-2008, 05:51 PM
He wasn't very memorable.

The Ninth Doctor
03-06-2008, 07:55 PM
So I've watched a few eps of Buffy. A love/hate relationship is forming between us. On the one hand, the characters are all great- on the other, the FoTW seems to be very corny.

It seems like Veronica Mars has the more believable delivery (of dialogue), Buffy has the more believable dialogue.

Shadowlord367
03-08-2008, 12:16 AM
Are you watching Buffy from the start? I watched Buffy and didn't like it too much, but toughed it out and by the end of season one, I was hooked.

On the other hand, Veronica Mars had me at the Pilot.

Xanderman
03-08-2008, 09:41 PM
So I've watched a few eps of Buffy. A love/hate relationship is forming between us. On the one hand, the characters are all great- on the other, the FoTW seems to be very corny.

It seems like Veronica Mars has the more believable delivery (of dialogue), Buffy has the more believable dialogue.Like Shadow said you sound like you're watching S1, trust me it gets better. Season 3 is the best season imo, and it's also the first season where the cheapskates finally pony up the dough for better cameras (in other words, the PQ is finally decent by S3). Seasons 1 and 2 are marred by a lousy picture, a cheap soundtrack/score, cheap everything (especially the first season). Season 3 enjoyed a money injection in every department, and it really paid off. 3 and 4 were Buffy's very best for me, but it went downhill from there. But S1 is without a doubt the worst.


Are you watching Buffy from the start? I watched Buffy and didn't like it too much, but toughed it out and by the end of season one, I was hooked.

On the other hand, Veronica Mars had me at the Pilot.As I said to Ninth, that's probably because of how cheap S1 of Buffy was. You can tell a lot more money, and effort, went into VM's first season in comparison.

The Ninth Doctor
03-09-2008, 09:22 PM
Yeah, hulu (legally) has the first 13 episodes of season 1 available to watch for free. So I've been checking them out on aol.com. I'm very glad to hear that it only gets better, I just might be hooked. Hopefully as hulu moves past beta, more episodes will be posted.

Xanderman
03-10-2008, 12:12 AM
It definitely improves on several fronts. Season 2 is actually one of the best seasons in the series in my opinion (my top 3 are 3,4,2) even though it suffers from a lot of the same production quality cheapness that plagued its freshman year.

The Ninth Doctor
03-17-2008, 08:00 PM
So, yeah, It'd better get better. That whole she-mantis thing just wasn't possible. I mean, that thing was gigantic, and yet it somehow fit in all those tiny doors and stuff, and noone ever tripped over the back end of its body, etc.

And possesing Demon Heyanas. And evil zoo-keepers. Yeah.

The Ninth Doctor
03-21-2008, 10:23 AM
The Bell Stops Ringing?
Plus, More News Regarding Heroes' Return
When Heroes returns for Volume Three, one of the actors who had a large fan base before coming onto the show might not be returning in a regular capacity.

TV Guide's Michael Ausiello posted the scoop today on the TV Guide website that Kristen Bell (Elle) is not signed on for next season. However, the show is in "active discussions" with her for a return arc during Season 3.

Are. You. KIDDING ME?:eek::confused: What the heck? Bob and Elle were the two good things from S2, and KB is leaving?

WildGoatTamer
10-19-2008, 10:44 PM
Will KB's contract be renewed since she only has 5 episodes left?

LuthorKent90
10-20-2008, 11:54 AM
UGH. No Elle in the next season.. and we get stuck with Maya??? o.0 *still waiting to see why Maya was brought back to life*

I REALLY hope she returns.