What is and what is not Believable

[Johnny_Luck]

Okay so after debating and knowing even though I was right that the witch thing wasn't as bad as people make it out to be I have a question.

In the Smallville Verse what is too unbelievable. I heard a couple comments as to why the witch thing didn't work and how believable it was.

However in a world filled with a main character who has multiple super powers and fights freaks who have different powers of their owns, deals with phantoms and vampires why is it so hard to believe in the whole magic thing(Knowing Zantanna and such do live in this reality)

I honestly can understand people not liking the stone story arc, but it lead to KK shining acting wise(show that she can work a role if actually given one to work with) and gave the character some history and story that she needed and was missing.

So like I said is the witch thing in the universe that it is in too unbelievable and if thats not the reason then whats too unbelievable

[ginnyfan]

I hear what you are saying. But the witch thing came out of NOWHERE! Just like a lot of Lana's character development comes out of nowhere. And she was a witch! LOL!!!

But as silly as that story arc was, watching it much later, I was amazed at how well it parallels with Clark's story. Lana gives Clark a really hard time about his honesty. But the minute she was in a similar situation, where her ancestor was forcing her to fulfill some sort of destiny, she lies her boyfriend (Jason). In... the episode where they go to China... Clark and Lana are on the plane together and that conversation they have... it's really ironic. She's talking to him about not being in control of her life etc. etc. The similarities were really interesting. At the time of airing, however, I just thought it was stupid. LOL!

You're right though. Witchy Woman Lana is the stuff of comic books if you ask me. I'm sure there have been stranger things in comic book stories.

[thedean123]

Do I think the witch idea was good one, absolutly not. But the idea was not too unbelievable for this show just something I didn't enjoy, as far as I'm concerned nothing is off limits in this show. The star of the show is fricken alien that in the future will be a icon flying around with his underwear outside of his clothes. Nothing in this show is too unbelievable.

[happyending21]

what is and what is not believeable




clark's obsession with lana ........(IMO).......is the most unbeilevable thing on this show




i mean six years .................and every bad thing thats happened and there still like this ........................






give me a bleming break

[JorEl23]

Unbelievable: the whole "Zod" debacle, Lexana suddenly happening out of nowhere, MB becoming a good guy, How CK is suddenly going to move to Metropolis don glasses and Jimmy and Lois and Perry wont recognize that he is Superman :D

Believeable: Al/Miles never read a comic in their lives, Chlark is a fantasy, Clana although it's starting to drag has all the characteristics of a" first love", Alyson Michalka IS Kara Zor El!!
:D

[Saber]

I didn’t like the witch arc because it came out of nowhere. It was the good girl gone bad train of thought (ok you’re a witch this season Lana because the good girl next door arc isn’t working).
Huh!

They seem to want to give Lana’s character these extraordinary venues in order to compete with Clark’s super powers and Lex’s journey towards the dark side. They should have put those efforts into creating a strong female role, one who is multifaceted with some brass balls, instead of a 24/7 self-centered damsel in distress. I think she would have been more believable as an audacious independent woman that could survive without always leaning on a guy (ex. Whitney, Adam, Jason, Clark, Lex, next in line please).

Also, what I find unbelievable is all the freaks that are infected with Kryptonite. It is just too many to swallow for six straight seasons. A few each season would have made it more exciting to watch.
Less freaks more substance writing, like crime fighting, taking a stand on hate crimes, whistle blowing, intervention, more coming of age plots, Clark taking more time to learn his new powers. I think that would have been more real.

[krpto]

What I find unbelieable is that every female character either lives of works in a building owned by lex at some point. I mean there are other places to live and work at that don't involve selling thier soul. I am sure we will get more of this but If lex is so evil as every character has said at least one why would they want to work for him or live in an apartment in a building he owns the talon. This so far is the biggest this to bug me in the entire series.

If they still want to use the talon as the cool place to hang out have oliver queen or somebody else buy it from Lex so that we don't have character living in an apartment or drinking coffee in a building owned by Lex who everybody knows is evil(he may not be Lex of the comics yet but he is still to dangerous to work for or live in a building owned by him) even if they cannot prove it.

[Kal26]

There are so many people in the dc universe that are magic users, and have such amazing super powers, I don't think that the witch arc was unbelievable at all. I mean, what about specter, and Dr. Fate? I think it was a good move on the part of the writers to introduce this arc. It gets clark ready for dealing with magic users in the future, and lets him know how his powers will stack up to theirs. I also think it was some of the best acting KK has done on the show because she had to essentially play two different people at the same time. I thought it was all introduced very well, and was very well played out. That's just my opinion though, for what it's worth.

[Timester]

Originally posted by Kal26
There are so many people in the dc universe that are magic users, and have such amazing super powers, I don't think that the witch arc was unbelievable at all. I mean, what about specter, and Dr. Fate? I think it was a good move on the part of the writers to introduce this arc. It gets clark ready for dealing with magic users in the future, and lets him know how his powers will stack up to theirs. I also think it was some of the best acting KK has done on the show because she had to essentially play two different people at the same time. I thought it was all introduced very well, and was very well played out. That's just my opinion though, for what it's worth.

Spectre is not magical.

The mistake with Isobel was how they introduced her, as a 17th century cauldron witch, reading spells from a book (the book was the source of the powers) and then she became a magical karate fighter just like that, without the book.

[SteveS]

Originally posted by thedean123
Do I think the witch idea was good one, absolutly not. But the idea was not too unbelievable for this show just something I didn't enjoy, as far as I'm concerned nothing is off limits in this show. The star of the show is fricken alien that in the future will be a icon flying around with his underwear outside of his clothes. Nothing in this show is too unbelievable.

Who is that pleasant specimen in your avatar?

In Smallville, it is unbelievable that ClarkMan would ever be interested in a person like lois, that is why he didn't rerspond in anything akin to a normal 19 year old manner when he saw her buck-naked and dripping wet.

[Kal26]

Originally posted by Timester
Spectre is not magical.

The mistake with Isobel was how they introduced her, as a 17th century cauldron witch, reading spells from a book (the book was the source of the powers) and then she became a magical karate fighter just like that, without the book.

Yeah, I know spectre isn't magical, he's supernatural I guess, but I was lumping him in with things that could be out there for some. Just saying that there were far more things to come for clark that are hard to explain, but exist in the dc universe.

I'm pretty sure in the beginning it said that it would take some time for the witches to gain their full power or something, I don't know, but I see what your saying. However, it's like that with most magic users. They need the spell book to remember the hard spells, but if you notice she's still casting spells, just using the ones she has memorized. She didn't have to read out of the book to use all her magics, I'm pretty sure, just the big stuff. Sort of like charmed, they had some powers that they could just use, and some had to be read from the book. I would imagine in the case of smallville, she could have used some incantations or something that made some of her powers more permanent.


Originally posted by Kal26
There are so many people in the dc universe that are magic users, and have such amazing super powers

I probably should have left the super off, and just said powers, but that's what I was getting at for spectre. Dr. fate was the example for magic users, and spectre for amazing powers. I thought about that after I posted, but figured you guys would get the idea.

[boywithbluehanger]

The only thing I thought was stupid about the witch arc is that they didn't tie it in to the DC comic character Zatanna. I just know there aren't any restrictions on using her.

And I like the idea of everyone being related to another comic character. Clark with Kara, Chloe with Lois and then Lana and Zatanna. Heck their names even rhyme!

[Tharos]

Why would Lana be in any way related to Zatanna? As far as that story arc being unbelievable, it was... unbelievable lame...
The thing was that it came out of nowhere and the only porpuse it served was giving Lana something to do that season, not that it wasn't plausible that a magic powered being would exist in Smallville's universe. Also, a "perfect" excuse to dress up all the girls in skin tight leather outfits...

[RedBullet]

Originally posted by Kal26
There are so many people in the dc universe that are magic users, and have such amazing super powers, I don't think that the witch arc was unbelievable at all. I mean, what about specter, and Dr. Fate? I think it was a good move on the part of the writers to introduce this arc. It gets clark ready for dealing with magic users in the future, and lets him know how his powers will stack up to theirs. I also think it was some of the best acting KK has done on the show because she had to essentially play two different people at the same time. I thought it was all introduced very well, and was very well played out. That's just my opinion though, for what it's worth.

Zatanna didn't find a magic spell book that she found on Ebay to become a 17th century witch....It was really sad how they needed to give Lana a purpose by turning her into a frickin witch.

[Kal26]

Not sure what good it did to quote me and then make that statement. I never said that she did. In fact, my post says nothing about Zatanna. I just stated that there were magic users in the dc universe, an example of that would be Zatanna. I'm not saying the two were similar in any way, or that their powers came from the same place. Lana finding the book didn't make her a witch. That was just one of the pieces to the puzzle. I believe she was inhabited by Isabel before she even found the book. She found the book to try and figure out what happened to her in France, where she went to the tomb, and was inhabited by the witch.

Maybe it was to give lana a more active role in the season. Maybe it was to add some flavor to her (in my opinion) rather bland character. Heaven forbid they give another character on the show an interesting back story.

Also, why is it hard to believe that she could find the book on ebay. If someone really owned an old book like that, and wasn't a collector, and wanted to turn it over for some quick cash, what would be the easiest way to do that? Ebay! Not that big of a stretch.

I guess I'm into the unexplainable, but the whole thing makes perfect sense to me. Our own history documents witch trials. We say today that they were all non sense, and were made up to kill off females, and males that people in power just didn't like, or they didn't like their ideas. But, what if in some cases they were true? I'm just saying what if. Don't you think that in some cases there would be descendants of those people, witches or not? It's perfectly believable to me that some where in real life there are people that have found out that their ancestors were involved in those trials. They may not have been real witches, but they are still their ancestors. Ancestors they didn't know about until it was sprung on them. Just like it was sprung on lana.

It's being made out like poof, all of the sudden she's a witch. It all came from know where. My question is, wouldn't it? Would she have been told this whole time that she was related to a witch? No, because even her own relatives didn't know. The whole poof she's a witch thing would be the only way to go, because IF something like that happened in real life, that's the way it would be.

It also opened her up more for clarks secret. She now has a little experience with the unexplainable. And of course the witch just disappeared without a trace, and no explanation. She fulfilled her main quest. I don't think she'd come back to explain it to everyone once it's over. Now, that would be unbelievable.

[meteor_phreak]

i find that thedean's avatar is not-believably hot :o :lol:

[krpto]

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
i find that thedean's avatar is not-believably hot :o :lol:

Wow she is hot who is she??

[kal-el_Girl]

Originally posted by krpto


If they still want to use the talon as the cool place to hang out have oliver queen or somebody else buy it from Lex so that we don't have character living in an apartment or drinking coffee in a building owned by Lex who everybody knows is evil(he may not be Lex of the comics yet but he is still to dangerous to work for or live in a building owned by him) even if they cannot prove it.
EXACTLY!!:rotfl:
they should all get "tossed out along with the rest of the garbage"
get it? ;)