Should I Get An Xbox 360?

[j03superbat]

Recently, I've had a tiny bit of a windfall and I've wondering about investing in an Xbox 360. I already own a Wii, and am very happy with it, but unfortunately Nintendo has seen that there is so much money in the casual gamer that they have stopped putting as much effort into their hardcore titles. And frankly, I was never a Mario fan. So until Metroid Prime 3 and Disaster come out, I'll be kind of deprived of any real good gaming since any multiple-platform games will either be based on an inferior PS2 build or a horrendously watered down port of the Xbox and PS3 versions anyway.

That said, what I want to know is - is an Xbox 360 worth it and which SKU should I buy?

Let me reiterate that I'm still happy with the Wii; I've already invested money in games and accessories; I have no plan to get rid of it; and I am able to afford mostly anything that comes out for it, whereas I will most likely not be able to with a 360. Let's not turn this into a flame war.

Similarly, I'm not interested in buying a PS3. I'm not gonna' be swayed; it's too damn expensive and I prefer the options the 360 offers. Plus, the Wii already provides motion controls so with the 360 I'm looking for the traditional gaming experience - a comfortable two-handed controller with rumble. 360 has more and better games too.

I've already done a lot of research, so I know most of what there is that the 360 has to offer, but I want to hear from 360 owners what they think firsthand, since most reviews on Amazon consist of "I got this for my boyfriend", "I got this as a present, it rules", or "It sucks! Get a PS3!!!1!!".

First off, I've heard that a LOT of people get the "Ring of Death" and have numerous other problems with their 360s. I know Microsoft is repairing most of these, but that seems like a hassle. Some say that they are a result of patches they downloaded online. Does this mean none of the games themselves have caused the 360 to malfunction? If I simply never download a patch, will I be okay? Are any of the 360 games unplayable without a patch?

Are bragging right all that Achievement points are good for?

Is the 360 as loud as people claim it is, and what level of tolerance is needed to get over it?

I probably won't be spending that much time online. I plan to have it in my living room, so an ethernet cable is out of the question (PC's in the den) and the wireless solutions seem pricey. Is the online worth it?

Lastly, in your opinions, which SKU is worth getting? I don't want a Core, because I want a wireless controller right out the box and most of the goodies the Pro and Elite offer, so it comes down to those two in the end.

If price weren't an option, I'd buy an Elite without hesitation because I have to see for myself why everyone is raving about HD gaming so I'd like to use that HDMI cable. The black/chrome finish also looks sleek and sexy, so I think it would look cooler standing next to the stark whiteness of my Wii. The 120 GB hard drive is VERY nice as well. But money is tight, and I'd like to be able to afford an extra game or two.

Still, since it's only $80 more and I'm a new consumer, not an upgrader, maybe it is worth it. I'll end up making the final decision, obviously, but I'd really like to hear the opinions of owners (I don't know any personally, sadly) because this sure as hell isn't a decision I want to jump into. And since there are rumors of prices drops, and I really, really want to be careful before buying. The other option for me is buying an HD camcorder which, in the future, will probably be viewed as the smarter choice since I need one, whereas a 360 is a luxury. But future hindsight be damned! I want a 360!

[Mello Penelo]

I'd go with the PS3. There aren't a lot of games on it yet, but there will be pretty soon. I don't think the 360 is worth it. The PS3 price is coming down in the next few weeks, according to SCEA (the American division).

[j03superbat]

Is it coming down by about two or three hundred dollars? Because seriously, I don't have THAT much money, and I still have to buy games for it.

And like I already said, I want a "classic" console. No motion controls (which I know you can turn off on the SIXAXIS, but bear with me) and RUMBLE. I don't really care about Blu-Ray and right now 360 has better looking games anyway. Even if any good games do come out for PS3, 360 has several available NOW.

I'm not trying to diss PS3. If I were rich, I would buy it. I'd probably buy all three, actually. But it's not the console I'm looking for.

Thanks for your opinion though. It could end up where I don't buy a 360 either.

[Mello Penelo]

I wouldn't buy a 360. I wouldn't even take a 360 that was given to me free of charge.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I wouldn't buy a 360. I wouldn't even take a 360 that was given to me free of charge.
Really? Why?

To me, I'm sure the PS3 will get better, I know it has the potential for better graphics, and there's all the talk in the world of the potential the PS3 has, but right now, it really doesn't mean much. Several games that have come out for both PS3 and 360 look and run better on the 360. And the 360 has a LOT of games that I want, whereas PS3 has Resistance (I'm not into Motorstorm).

The 360 is also cheaper, and that has swayed my decision the most. I wouldn't turn down a PS3 if it were given to me for free, but for the library of games (and rumble) I'd rather have a 360.

Not that it's perfect. I know about the cooling and breaking problems that it's been having, and that's why I wanted to ask owners if it was worth it anyway before buying one.

[Reuben]

Well i don't know why that guy/girl wouldn't take a 360 even if it was given to him/her free of charge, Obviously he/she's not a gamer and just a Sony Fanboy. I'm not flaming i'm just stating the truth.

Anyway I own a 360, My cousin owns a PS3, so i pretty much get the best of both worlds. Though I'd say go with the 360 if your getting Xbox Live. Xbox Live alone is a good enough reason to buy a 360 (i'm not joking)

As for the PS3 having better graphics. Yeah it can, and probably will with select games. Though the ps2 had worse graphics then the first xbox and look at which system sold more?

Anyway the 360 is red hot right now and will be even more this fall when some big system sellers come out.

So i say, yeah get a 360. You will not be dissapointed. Though you should get a PS3 once some good games release on it, or once their is a price drop. We all know their will be good exclusives on the PS3.

Ohh and before i finish my post. yes the 360 has had a lot of problems, Though as a launch owner. I had mine for a year before it broke. Though their are a lot of people i know who have 360's that bought them like a year later. There seems to be no problems or atleast minimal with the ones coming out right now.

AND don't forget, if you do get a 360, get the Xbox 360 Elite, the black one. It definately has more in it for less $.


Ohh and talking about that patch stuff, you're like 0000.1 out of 11million chance of getting something ilke that. Most people who complained...Had their xbox 360's modded, so therefore it screwed up their systems.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Reuben
AND don't forget, if you do get a 360, get the Xbox 360 Elite, the black one. It definately has more in it for less $.
Thanks - that's what I wanted to hear. It looks dead sexy and I want it very badly.

Unfortunately, I miscalculated the financial aid I was supposed to recieve this fall, so I may end up having to buy my own books. There was something else I had to pay for that I can't remember off the top of my mind and I probably should buy a camcorder to make more short films (it is my major, after all).

But if I have any money left over by the end of the summer, I'm getting a 360. Elite.

[constantine]

not to mention, that if you DO get a 360, you can get gears of war so I can kick your ass all over the shop :p

[Mello Penelo]

My youngest oldest brother ( :lol: ) has a 360 and he got that red ring thing on all three of the units he bought.

My PS3 has been running perfectly ever since I got it. I know I'm having to wait longer for the good titles like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Grand Theft Auto 4, but I have patience.

[constantine]

I had a PS3 for ten minutes, and took it back. if you're ever on the 360 though mello, let me know what your gamertag is.

[Mello Penelo]

My brother doesn't live with me, but I play Gears of War with him every so often. My gamertag is Juspeczyk, but I haven't played in months.

[The Ninth Doctor]

Microsoft has extended their warranty due to the all too common red ring of death. They have admitted that their is a problem, and are taking the due steps to fix it, even though it is costing them massive amounts of money.

Plus they are getting PS3 "exclusives" all the time. Wii60 is the way to go.

[luthorsmentor]

i have a wii and a 360 pro. i've never had any problems with either one. i don't game online that much though so that could be why i haven't had the trouble that some have had. i thoroughly enjoy my 360. it's worth it to have one. that said i'll probably get a ps3 as well when the price does finally come down a bit more.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
Wii60 is the way to go.
Absolutely - Metroid Prime 3 on one, Bioshock on the other.

Sadly, I'm out of money and can't afford an Xbox 360, much less the ridiculously expensive PS3. Stoopid college...

[luthorsmentor]

i take back every nice thing that i've ever said about the 360 now that mine has popped up with the three red lights of death. should've saved that money for a ps3.

[The Ninth Doctor]

Well, Microsoft extended the warranty not to long ago, and if its still past that, there's always the towl trick.....

[Dejected_Angel]

Nope. Its not worth it.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Luffy
You should wait for the price fall of the ps3... or if you don't want a ps3 ever... just wait for a price fall of the 360... the elite is out now so the price should be falling soon (unless it has already?)...
After the "Price Drop... NOT!" trick Sony pulled at E3 with the announcing of a new SKU and then the announcement that current 60GB models would soon go out of the production and when they do once again your only option is the $599 model, I seriously doubt I will EVER purchase a Playstation 3.

The 360 is cheaper. It has a bigger library of games. It has - IMO - a more comfortable controller (plus rumble). Unless the PS3 magically falls to $299 and the 360 suddenly jacks up its price, I see no reason for why I should buy a PS3. I heard Lair sucked, I don't care for Motorstorm, and even Heavenly Sword is getting ho-hum reviews. From a consumer standpoint - a college student consumer that barely makes enough a month to cover expenses - the only financial advantage to buying a PS3 that I see is that there are less games I would want to buy.

Gears of War. Bioshock. Halo 3. If I can get a 360 and those games, my life would be perfect. (Well, and Resident Evil 5, but that's not an exclusive).

As for overheating issues and other glitches... I'll take my chances. I'm going to keep waiting a few more months for the number of complaints to go down before I finally do buy a 360. The way I see it though, the 360 has firmly entrenched itself as the PS2 of this generation.

FYI, 360 did have a price drop recently. Wasn't much.

[constantine]

Actually anything that's on sale wont be affected by the ring of death syndrome, and is still covered by warranty jo, so if you decided to buy anything now would be a good time...Especially with Halo 3 being imminently released.

I will say though, I wasn't all that impressed with bioshock.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by constantine
Actually anything that's on sale wont be affected by the ring of death syndrome, and is still covered by warranty jo, so if you decided to buy anything now would be a good time...
Not if you saw my savings account. :\

[constantine]

*slap* cease with the excuses! :p

[Reuben]

constantine.

add me on xbox live. Gamertag = AK ReubenDR

Let's see who kicks who's ass in gears :P

[constantine]

Originally posted by Reuben
constantine.

add me on xbox live. Gamertag = AK ReubenDR

Let's see who kicks who's ass in gears :P

edit: nm got it.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by constantine
*slap* cease with the excuses! :p
*sobs* But it's not my fault! Really! I just don't have the money!

After all, there's the PSP Slim that I'm eyein', that cool new iPod Touch (which costs about the same as an Xbox 360...), and I still should get around to buying a new camcorder.

Now maybe if I had gotten that Pell Grant :mad: and didn't have to spend so much money on school this past month or so, I'd have gotten a 360 by now. :o

[Reuben]

Originally posted by j03superbat
*sobs* But it's not my fault! Really! I just don't have the money!

After all, there's the PSP Slim that I'm eyein', that cool new iPod Touch (which costs about the same as an Xbox 360...), and I still should get around to buying a new camcorder.

Now maybe if I had gotten that Pell Grant :mad: and didn't have to spend so much money on school this past month or so, I'd have gotten a 360 by now. :o ipod touch isn't worth it.

just get the new ipod classic, 160gb for the same price as the 30gb when it first came out.

the ipod touch has 16gb max...not worth it, rather spend an extra 100 and get the iphone honestly

[j03superbat]

But the iPod Touch is so cool! 16 GB is all I'd probably use at a given time anyway!

*sigh* But you do make a convincing argument. I'd buy an iPhone, but I don't really need a new phone.

I could also live for a very long time without a PSP, since I've always got my trusty DS Lite. So it comes down to a camcorder or a 360. The decision's not as clear-cut as it seems, you know.

[boyde92]

360's are not worth it they loud and they freeze all the time.They just all around suck:D

[j03superbat]

Great. You have/had one, right?

[Mello Penelo]

I'm tellin' ya man. Go after the PS3 when you get the cash. This is still the beginning of this generation's console wars and a lot of media outlets are already claiming Microsoft's won it.

But in essence, since neither Nintendo, Microsoft nor Sony have any new system in the pipeline for a long time, there's a long time to go.

PS2 was a slow starter. Remember how so many were crashing and they were so few and far between stores were forcing people to buy them in bundles with games. The stores wanted to make sure they could recoup their losses in case anything happened with the systems.

PS3 is slow to start too. Wait until this Christmas. There's going to be a lot of stuff coming out including GTA4 and Metal Gear Solid 4. And then next year-- Final Fantasy 13 (and its three versions on PS3), God of War 3 and the remake of Bahamut Lagoon.

Save your cash-- at least what you can-- because the PS3 is your best bet.

[j03superbat]

Mello -

I'm not.

Getting.

A PS3.

:)

I've already stated why. The faux price drop was just mean; there aren't enough exclusives I'm interested in, and I don't. Have. $600. I mean, just out of the games you mentioned alone I'm only interested in two: GTA 4, which is not exclusive, and God of War 3, which is a fair point. I also played a demo of and liked Ridge Racer 7, just to show that I'm not a Sony hater.

But I just don't see it being worth it. 360 has a TON of games now. And you just said PS2's were crashing when they came out so Microsoft's problems aren't that big a deal to me. While they may have "wasted" a year in hardware damages and repairs, that year built them a great gaming library.

I'm saving up for the Elite, but now that the Pro has the HDMI output, I might just go for that one, and thus get it much quicker because of the $100 difference.

I'm not saying the PS3 is a worthless piece of @#$% - I'm saying I can't afford it. And I don't have the patience to save up for a system that doesn't have as many great games as the 360.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by j03superbat
And I don't have the patience to save up for a system that doesn't have as many great games as the 360.

Yet. ;)

[Reuben]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Yet. ;)

Yeah, hopefully the PS3 will actually get AAA games within the next year. I was so sure Heavenly Sword was going to be AAA. but even that didn't get it =/

[constantine]

The catalogue of games, for a start will always be of a higher calibre than the PS3. Why? Because Sony allow any old crap to get certified as compatible, microsoft however like a little control over their products, and only allow products that meet stringent specifications.

As for the noise? yeah, maybe it's noisy, but when you consider how much is packed into it, it makes it all worth it - the GPU on the xbox 260 will always outgun that of the inferior PS3.

Oh yeah. Talking about inferior, let's cover bluray. Betamax mean anything to you? good, because that's exactly what bluray is. It's chopped liver. it's costly to produce, and that alone means that eventually, every DVD and software title you ee will employ HD DVD as opposed to bluray.

Then let's go with the control pad - Microsoft spent as much on the development of the new control pad as a hollywood studio would spend on a medium sized movie - what have PS3 got? ooooh it;s the same, crappy, waitwanese made, easily breakable joypad that gives you handcramp that makes you look like you've been jerking off for years after only a few hours of use.

Then let's look at the 360 peripherals - the messenger pad, the wireless headset, the much better steering wheel...The list goes on. You know why? Microsoft plain put more into developing the 360 than Sony did for the PS1, 2 AND 3 combined. Face it people, it's just plain better.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Yet. ;)
At this pace, the 360 would have to have to a straight drought of even decent games, and the PS3 would have to have a mindblowing 2008 for it to completely catch up.

It's not entirely Sony's fault. Microsoft's head start just really, really helped. Developers now have two years experience with the 360 and its internal mechanics and the possibilities for even better games have expanded. The PS3 is going to have some really great games too, no doubt. All three systems last gen had some stellar titles (some more than others), so to say the PS3 will never get a killer app or five is just stupid. That's why I'm not saying that.

But there are a s@#$load of games for 360 that I want. I don't have the money for both, so I'm getting a 360. I stated right off in my initial post that I was getting a 360 and that it was really only a matter of which SKU. End of discussion.

When it comes down to it, as I've said dozens of times, the PS3's price tag is just too high. For such a (AS OF NOW, Mello) poor selection of games, I'd rather have the much cheaper Wii... which I do, and I'm happy with because it's fun and cheap.

[Reuben]

I agree about Bluray. Though the way it's looking. It seems that Bluray AND HD DVD will flop.

[constantine]

I think HD DVD is another gap filler, but the problem is that bluray just costs too much.

Superman returns on HD DVD special offer - £28.99

Superman Returns on Bluray special offer - £38.99

See where this is going?


Originally posted by j03superbat
At this pace, the 360 would have to have to a straight drought of even decent games, and the PS3 would have to have a mindblowing 2008 for it to completely catch up.

It's not entirely Sony's fault. Microsoft's head start just really, really helped. Developers now have two years experience with the 360 and its internal mechanics and the possibilities for even better games have expanded. The PS3 is going to have some really great games too, no doubt. All three systems last gen had some stellar titles (some more than others), so to say the PS3 will never get a killer app or five is just stupid. That's why I'm not saying that.

But there are a s@#$load of games for 360 that I want. I don't have the money for both, so I'm getting a 360. I stated right off in my initial post that I was getting a 360 and that it was really only a matter of which SKU. End of discussion.

When it comes down to it, as I've said dozens of times, the PS3's price tag is just too high. For such a (AS OF NOW, Mello) poor selection of games, I'd rather have the much cheaper Wii... which I do, and I'm happy with because it's fun and cheap.

The only thing that could make 2008 better for me in terms of gaming, is if some really hot girl was sat next to me, completely buck naked, telling me I could get my happy on for every time I beat her in death match. THAT'S how good 2008 is going to be for me :D

And I love my wii. red steel ftw.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by constantine
The only thing that could make 2008 better for me in terms of gaming, is if some really hot girl was sat next to me, completely buck naked, telling me I could get my happy on for every time I beat her in death match. THAT'S how good 2008 is going to be for me :D

And I love my wii. red steel ftw.
Umm... so it sounds like a very good 2008. Good. :)

And I love my Wii too. I can't wait to get Medal of Honor: Heroes 2, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and Mario Kart Wii. But right now the game library isn't so hot. Definitely a little more impressive than PS3's library, just because I don't mind some of the minigame compilations everyone else despises, and of course the Virtual Console. But every time I think of 360, I think of all those awesome games I haven't been able to play yet.

And I drool about them. I mean, c'mon - Resident Evil 5? Hello? I WILL have a 360 by the time that one comes out.

[constantine]

Originally posted by j03superbat
Umm... so it sounds like a very good 2008. Good. :)

And I love my Wii too. I can't wait to get Medal of Honor: Heroes 2, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and Mario Kart Wii. But right now the game library isn't so hot. Definitely a little more impressive than PS3's library, just because I don't mind some of the minigame compilations everyone else despises, and of course the Virtual Console. But every time I think of 360, I think of all those awesome games I haven't been able to play yet.

And I drool about them. I mean, c'mon - Resident Evil 5? Hello? I WILL have a 360 by the time that one comes out.

get a move on bucko, games you need to earmark are halo 3, COD4 and Gears of War. Then, there WILL be carnage

[redraven]

I think it's a good time to get an Xbox 360 now. Microsoft extended the warrenty to 3 years from the original purchase date so it's pretty safe to get one, I think. They also dropped the price a bit, which is good too.

And since you want good games NOW...a PS3 wouldn't be a good idea since you'd have to wait until mid to late 2008 to get some good games for it. Jmo. :)

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by redraven
And since you want good games NOW...a PS3 wouldn't be a good idea since you'd have to wait until mid to late 2008 to get some good games for it. Jmo. :)
Why you've summed it up in a nutshell. Thank you.

And constantine, those are exactly the titles I plan to pick up plus several... SEVERAL more. Off the top of my head I know I'm getting those, Stranglehold, Bioshock, Resident Evil 5, Rainbow Six Vegas, Assassin's Creed, Grand Theft Auto IV... well, you get the idea. Needless to say, 360 has a bunch of great games both already out and coming out soon.

And on top of that I'll take any of the 360 exclusives over the PS3 ones any day. Frankly, I don't even like Final Fantasy.

[constantine]

Noooo don't bother with stranglehold. Trust me...it's most yawnworthy. I mean you'll put the controller down saying "well THAT was a sixty bucks completely wasted"

[Reuben]

Just to make it clear. The xbox 360 only has a 1 year warranty. The 3 year warranty is specifically for 3 red lights ONLY.

Though all you have to do really is put your xbox in a bucket of water to get the 3 red lights lol =P

[boyde92]

Yea i HAD a 360 i got rid of it cause it sucked,now i got my 60G ps3 and i love it.

[redraven]

Originally posted by Reuben
Just to make it clear. The xbox 360 only has a 1 year warranty. The 3 year warranty is specifically for 3 red lights ONLY.

Oh...well I knew there was a 3 year warrenty for something on the Xbox. But that's what usually goes wrong w/ them anyway so it's still pretty safe to buy one.

[constantine]

Originally posted by Reuben
Just to make it clear. The xbox 360 only has a 1 year warranty. The 3 year warranty is specifically for 3 red lights ONLY.

Though all you have to do really is put your xbox in a bucket of water to get the 3 red lights lol =P

The warranty is now a 3 year warranty in europe

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by constantine
Noooo don't bother with stranglehold. Trust me...it's most yawnworthy. I mean you'll put the controller down saying "well THAT was a sixty bucks completely wasted"
Well, then I'll rent it. One way or another, I'm playing that game. The previews make it look sooo awesome.

[constantine]

renting is a good idea. trust me - you'll finish it in three days

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Luffy
Not to be offensive... but you sound like a microsoft fanboy...
Well, I like Microsoft. I run Windows Vista on my PC, and while I'm absolutely frustrated by it, it's still my OS of choice. I never bothered with the original Xbox, but the 360 is a machine I would like to have. If I sound like a Microsoft fanboy, then whatever - I like the 360. Where's the shame in that?

I like the Wii too. Does the make me a Nintendo fanboy? Sure, why not? I don't really care.

I mean.. GoW abosultey SUCKED... I can't see why anyone would find that game good, it was short, the gameplay was meh at best and the graphics were pretty (I don't play games for graphics though). Bioshock I haven't played so I can't comment on. All of the Halo series are totally overrated, I mean halo 1, yes it was good, but there are better fps' and I mean, halo 2 was the pits. I don't expect halo 3 to be any better.
And constantine didn't care for Bioshock. They both (Bioshock and GoW) got high reviews and they look amazing, so I want them. Why would so many people lie? There's undoubtably going to be people who don't like either game, but the majority of the reaction is positive. So even if you think GoW absolutely SUCKED, many disagree with you. I just want to find out for myself, and I can't on a PS3.

Same for Halo 3 and Bioshock.

The PS3 will have a price drop, the ps2 albiet wasn't as high a price as the ps3 at launch it is still down to £100ish now.
The PS3 just HAD a price drop. It went down a hundred dollars, they released a new SKU, and the old one is now out of production. And it's taken the PS2 five or six YEARS to go down to $130. You gonna tell me I have to wait that long for the PS3 to come down to maybe $300, when the 360 will probably be $200? No thanks.

[luthorsmentor]

i was able to fix my red lights problem myself, wasn't that difficult really. so i'm playing it again.

I liked god of war.....a lot.

i like final fantasy and it being exclusive to the ps3 is really the only reason i'd get one, however i've heard from too many people that it will be on the 360. i'm finding more and more evidence to support staying with my 360 and wii and less and less for getting a ps3 at all.

i'm not a fanboy of anything, i like playing games so i've always tried to have every gaming system i ever could, ps3 just priced themselves out of my, and most normal people's range. even with their "price drop"

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Luffy
Well if that makes you a wii fanboy, j03. Then I'm a PS360Wii fanboy... so in other words, no it doesn't.
Hmmm... but I really, REALLY like my Wii. And the DS too. :)

Don't get me wrong. I used to love my 360 but when I got my ps3 it just changed everything. I mean, I used my ps3 everyday but I use my 360 maybe 3 times a month... maybe less o.o . I don't really use my wii much anymore either. The thing that really swayed me with the ps3 was being able to play .mp4 files. I don't need good games if I can watch .mp4 files... also the hd upscaler rocks.
But I don't care about any of those things. I don't want to watch .mp4 files, nor am I sure why I would want to on a PS3 or any other console. I have an HDTV, but I don't care that my Wii doesn't run at 1080, or even 720p. It'd be nice, and I do have it on 480p instead of i, but it's never been a dealbreaker for me.

To be honest, I'm not even a big fan of online gaming. I'm not totally against it or anything - I just prefer playing against people in the room and rarely use online. So the fact that Xbox Live costs money and Nintendo and Sony offer online for free doesn't really affect me too much, before someone brings that into the argument. Though part of the reason I posted this thread in the first place was to find out if Live was worth it.

Lastly, for the record, I don't use the Wii everyday but that's just because of my schedule. Because if I did, I would play Resident Evil 4 day and night, keep fit with Wii Sports, blow some muthas' faces off in Scarface, go all Corruption on space pirates for a few hours, and finish off with Zelda. :) I can't imagine myself spending that much time with a controller if I only had a PS3, judging from the games that are currently out right now. But if I had a 360...

Anyway, you want a 360 and not a ps3.
That is correct.

The only thing that I would say is bad about the 360 is the fact that wireless isn't built in and setting up the network settings can be realllllly annoying, but of course that isn't really major.
Fair points. Exactly the kind of discussion I was looking for, and yes, I see the potential problem. But I can use an ethernet cable without it being much of a problem and it could be a while before I set up Live anyway.

I don't really see the problem with the price, I mean... I use the ps3 everyday and I paid £550 for it whereas the 360 & Wii I paid about the same as that and I use them at a max of 7 days out of every month... seems like better value for money to me (The ps3 that is).
I haven't moved out yet. There are a ton of electronic devices lying around in my house (except for a 360 or PS3, since I wasn't able to convince my dad to buy one). So if I'm not using a PS3 for games, I'm not going to need it for anything else yet. The only possible thing it could ever be useful for other than as a game machine is as a Blu-Ray player, and I'm not convinced Blu-Ray is going to win the HD war. Similarly, I don't know if HD-DVD will win, so I'm not going to buy the add-on for the 360. I have an HD-DVD drive on my PC anyway, so I don't really need it.

SO - taking all that into account, yes, $600 is way more than I'm willing to pay for a console that doesn't have enough games that I - j03superbat - am personally interested in.

But I would like to point out that if anyone were so generous enough to give me a PS3 for free - I wouldn't be so stubborn that I wouldn't find a good use for it. :D

[constantine]

Originally posted by Luffy
Not to be offensive... but you sound like a microsoft fanboy... I mean.. GoW abosultey SUCKED... I can't see why anyone would find that game good, it was short, the gameplay was meh at best and the graphics were pretty (I don't play games for graphics though). Bioshock I haven't played so I can't comment on. All of the Halo series are totally overrated, I mean halo 1, yes it was good, but there are better fps' and I mean, halo 2 was the pits. I don't expect halo 3 to be any better.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion mate - you just happen to be wrong on this occasion. :)



The PS3 will have a price drop, the ps2 albiet wasn't as high a price as the ps3 at launch it is still down to £100ish now.


Trust me - it'll be a while before you see it around a PS2 market price.



''The way I see it though, the 360 has firmly entrenched itself as the PS2 of this generation.''

lawl, it's too early to say something like that.

Neither would I be that uinsuling...The difference betweetn a PS2 and h 360, si that the 360 is a quality product.



So the $120 wireless add-on for the 360 is a great peripheral?

Even though the ps3 has it built-in...

If you add the price of the elite, wireless add-on & the hd-dvd player... I believe the prices wouldn't be that different...

Mate, you get what you pay for. I had a PS3 for a day, and returned it.



I don't know where you've been shopping but I got superman returns on blu-ray for £12.99

I haven't seen a blu-ray for £38.99 yet...

HMV for the blu ray I think is where I was at the time, and Virgin for the HD DVD.



Most of my blu-ray's cost me from £9.99-£24.99
Where as my hd-dvd's have been anywhere from £19.99-£24.99

Good for you. Tell me, will you be storing them with your betamax and minidisc collections?

[Reuben]

Gears of War is a great game, Just a rushed one. Lots of bad glitches that ruin the online experience. Though if you can ignore them as much as you can. It's a great game.

As for campaign. It was cool but way too short.

Nd Really who cares about PS3 price VS the 360's?

It doesn't matter. You get the system you want. If it costs more, You save a little more. Money isn't going to stop you from getting you what you want. Maybe stall it for a little bit. As long as it's not like completely out of your salary.


Halo 2 was not a pity. The campaign maybe, Definitely not the online.

Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are both going down. SO why buy either?


There i let out what i had to say. Good day people.

[boyde92]

yes i had one they SUCK

[Dejected_Angel]

Originally posted by boyde92
360's are not worth it they loud and they freeze all the time.They just all around suck:D

This is so true!
I know like 3 people who have all had them....and they're had the red light of doom and been very frustrated.
If you want a reliable console definitely avoid the xbox 360.


The way I see it though, the 360 has firmly entrenched itself as the PS2 of this generation.
How come the wii which launched a year after has already outsold it then ?




SO - taking all that into account, yes, $600 is way more than I'm willing to pay for a console that doesn't have enough games that I - j03superbat - am personally interested in.

So some of the games you wanna miss out on are...

Haze .......a really good looking and potientally good fps by Ubisoft.

Unreal Tournament 3 - Looks like its gonna be one of the best fps games out there.
Ps3 is getting it this year while the 360 version hasn't even got a release date and its not gonna have user generated content so whats the point.

Killzone II - Has been given really good impressions by all of the major gaming sites and the graphics are unrivalled

SOCOM Confrontation - Its socom. Need I say more.

Folklore - A really promising rpg

Heavenly Sword - I've played it and it is awesome

Warhawk - One of the best multiplayer games around. So much fun this game is.

Uncharted : Drake's Fortune - From Naughty Dog who are one of the best developers around. Easily one of the most anticipated games this holiday season.

Ratchet & Clank : Tools of Destruction - don't even have to say anything except its the best platformer there is...

Metal Gear Solid 4- Gonna be released in early 2008 and this looks like the best of the series

Little Big Planet - One of my most anticipated games and I think this could be a really awesome game

Final Fantasy 13- Yep. The best rpg series goes next gen and its exclusive to ps3

Final Fantasy Versus XIII- as if that wasn't enough there is another FF also being released only on the ps3.


Gran Turismo 5- The sequel to the most popular racing series ever is back and looking better than ever..


The ps3 clearly has itself covered in games.;)

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Dejected_Angel
How come the wii which launched a year after has already outsold it then?
Because the Wii isn't just being bought by gamers. People who want another machine next to their home theater system and DVD player are buying it. Parents who want to treat their children are buying it. Soon, after Wii Fit comes out, people who want to lose weight will buy it. Nintendo has made a video game console that EVERYONE wants to play. That's also why some, less-enlightened people are calling it a fad, but I think it's just Nintendo's Great Idea.

The 360, however, has more similarities to the PS2 than the Wii does. Number one being a kickass gaming library.

So some of the games you wanna miss out on are...
*sigh* If we must...

Haze .......a really good looking and potientally good fps by Ubisoft.
Gosh, that DOES sound good! Wait... it's coming out on 360.

Unreal Tournament 3 - Looks like its gonna be one of the best fps games out there.

Ps3 is getting it this year while the 360 version hasn't even got a release date and its not gonna have user generated content so whats the point.
To play a good FPS, maybe? I think that's a pretty good point, considering it's not like every FPS in the world has user generated content. But since the 360 version hasn't got a release date yet, I'll play along: No user-generated content?? :(

Killzone II - Has been given really good impressions by all of the major gaming sites and the graphics are unrivalled
Maybe when I'm done playing Haze, Bioshock, and Call of Duty 4 I'll have time to mope about this one.

SOCOM Confrontation - Its socom. Need I say more.
Kinda' do. Never played a SOCOM game before. So I don't really know what I'm missing.

Folklore - A really promising rpg
Don't like RPGs.

Heavenly Sword - I've played it and it is awesome
Reviews have been ho-hum. I can live without it.

Warhawk - One of the best multiplayer games around. So much fun this game is.
I actually will miss this one. Damn.

Uncharted : Drake's Fortune - From Naughty Dog who are one of the best developers around. Easily one of the most anticipated games this holiday season.
Yeah, after Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty 4, and Halo 3.

Ratchet & Clank : Tools of Destruction - don't even have to say anything except its the best platformer there is...
Ouch - no love for Super Mario Galaxy? Don't worry; it gets none from me either. I suck at platformers.

Metal Gear Solid 4- Gonna be released in early 2008 and this looks like the best of the series.
I've played a couple of the MGSs, and the gameplay has always felt a little dull to me. I'm not looking forward to the fourth one very much, and its exclusivity is still being questioned.

Little Big Planet - One of my most anticipated games and I think this could be a really awesome game
I still for the life of me cannot understand where all the hype is coming from.

Final Fantasy 13- Yep. The best rpg series goes next gen and its exclusive to ps3

Final Fantasy Versus XIII- as if that wasn't enough there is another FF also being released only on the ps3.
Don't like RPGs.

Gran Turismo 5- The sequel to the most popular racing series ever is back and looking better than ever..
Always been a bigger fan of Burnout and Ridge Racer. Won't miss this one.

The ps3 clearly has itself covered in games.;)
Never said it wouldn't... eventually. The fact that you completely left out God of Freakin' War 3 makes me call your sanity into question.

The 360 has more games that I'm interested in. I'm happy that PS3 owners have games they can look forward to. Thank you for your time.

[Dejected_Angel]

Gosh, that DOES sound good! Wait... it's coming out on 360.

http://www.digitalbattle.com/2007/05/24/haze-exclusive-to-ps3-for-2007/

Haze, the upcoming FPS from Ubisoft will not be entirely exclusive. It will however be up to a year before it possibly comes to the Xbox 360 or PC

Owned...who is gonna want it a year late...lolz.


To play a good FPS, maybe? I think that's a pretty good point, considering it's not like every FPS in the world has user generated content. But since the 360 version hasn't got a release date yet, I'll play along: No user-generated content??

Unreal Tournament 2004 was one of the best fps games ever and one of the main reason was user generated content.The 360 is getting a washed down version of the game way after the ps3.....

Owned again.:)


Maybe when I'm done playing Haze, Bioshock, and Call of Duty 4 I'll have time to mope about this one.

Surely you can do better than that:rotfl:
This game isn't coming out in the holiday season to compete with those 3.
Try again.:)


Kinda' do. Never played a SOCOM game before. So I don't really know what I'm missing.

......................
And yet you say none of the games really interest you while you have no clue about this series..:confused:
SelfOwned :)



Don't like RPGs.

...................:rolleyes:


Reviews have been ho-hum. I can live without it.

Grasping at straws now?
8.0 at gamespot and to quote them..
"Heavenly Sword feels like a summer action flick. It's full of nonstop action, and it looks terrific. Unfortunately, it's over far too quickly."

over too quickly but definitely a very awesome game.

Have fun with that while I go to class.;)

[Dejected_Angel]

You could always rent it then.

[Dejected_Angel]

Rent Heavenly Sword lol.

[j03superbat]

This still isn't over?

Originally posted by Dejected_Angel
http://www.digitalbattle.com/2007/05/24/haze-exclusive-to-ps3-for-2007/

Haze, the upcoming FPS from Ubisoft will not be entirely exclusive. It will however be up to a year before it possibly comes to the Xbox 360 or PC

Owned...who is gonna want it a year late...lolz.
Yeah, ports that come out a year after the original NEVER do well... *cough*Resident Evil 4*cough*

As I recall, few people actually bought a GameCube just to play RE4. They waited for it come out on PS2, which had bonus content anyway. And then the Wii version came along and owned all, almost two years later.

Unreal Tournament 2004 was one of the best fps games ever and one of the main reason was user generated content.The 360 is getting a washed down version of the game way after the ps3.....

Owned again.:)
Well, ya' got me there. I'm wounded now... :rolleyes:

Surely you can do better than that:rotfl:
This game isn't coming out in the holiday season to compete with those 3.

Try again.:)
I thought the 360 version of Haze wasn't coming out this holiday season anyway? :)

And you DO realize there are like a bazillion FPSs on the Xbox 360, right? As much as I'll miss playing Killzone II (lemme' know if it actually looks as good as the fake previews) and Unreal Tournament, there are always gonna' be a ton of other shooters to play. Life goes on.

And yet you say none of the games really interest you while you have no clue about this series..:confused:
I know what the series is about - I've just never played one, because the series has never interested me. Get it?

..................:rolleyes:
:rolleyes: It's not like I'm playing Blue Dragon either. I don't like RPGs. Those kind of people in exist in the world.

Grasping at straws now?
8.0 at gamespot and to quote them..
"Heavenly Sword feels like a summer action flick. It's full of nonstop action, and it looks terrific. Unfortunately, it's over far too quickly."

over too quickly but definitely a very awesome game.
See Luffy's response.

Have fun with that while I go to class.;)
Just did.

Still don't see why you're getting all huffy about a bunch of games. I listed the ones I'm not interested in, and I told you that I would miss Warhawk. You still fail to even mention God of Kickass 3, so I have to ask again, "Is something wrong with you?" I don't even have a PS3, nor do I plan to buy one, and I'd still go around telling everyone when it's coming and how many days are left til it comes out. It's that awesome.

The PS3 will have good games. I never said it wouldn't. Should I use bold, upper-caps? THE 360 HAS MORE that I'm interested in.

In ten years, when I have a place in California, a retirement home in Miami for my twilight years, and a large share in some big manufacturing company, I will probably own every console that ever comes out - be it Xbox 720, PS4, and Wii2, or whatever they come out with. Cuz I'll be rich, see?

Right now... I can just afford a 360. This thread is about constructively listing the pros and cons of the 360, which accessories are worth buying, which 360 games live up to the hype, and possible future price drops, NOT PS3 games that I have little to no interest in.

[constantine]

Ibought a couple of goodies the other day - a new 120gb hard drive, a wireless heawdset and a messenger kit. I have to say, I was thoroughly impressed with the messenger kit; all backlit, and nice to use.

[Reuben]

Originally posted by constantine
Ibought a couple of goodies the other day - a new 120gb hard drive, a wireless heawdset and a messenger kit. I have to say, I was thoroughly impressed with the messenger kit; all backlit, and nice to use.
well it better be for it's price lol

[constantine]

£24.99 isn't that bad

[Dejected_Angel]

Well, ya' got me there. I'm wounded now...

At least you admit when you're wrong:D



I know what the series is about - I've just never played one, because the series has never interested me. Get it?

Games are meant to be played. So what you know what it is about?
Try again please..;)


You still fail to even mention God of Kickass 3, so I have to ask again, "Is something wrong with you?"

We haven't even seen a screenshot from that game yet. Whats the point of hyping a game that won't be out for a while...:)



Right now... I can just afford a 360. This thread is about constructively listing the pros and cons of the 360, which accessories are worth buying, which 360 games live up to the hype, and possible future price drops,

Don't come back crying when yours breaks then.:)

[j03superbat]

These posts just keep getting shorter and shorter...

Originally posted by Dejected_Angel
At least you admit when you're wrong:D
:rotfl: Just enjoy Unreal Tournament, dude. I'll go play the kabillion other shooters out there.

Games are meant to be played. So what you know what it is about?
:rolleyes: Yeah, I've seen videos, read previews... nothing I've seen or heard about them have made me want to play them. It's an online realistic military co-operative shooter that lets you experience an "authentic" tour of duty as a U.S. Navy Seal.

As far as tactical shooters go, I prefer Rainbow Six. Don't question why - I just do. :)

We haven't even seen a screenshot from that game yet. Whats the point of hyping a game that won't be out for a while...
...

It's God of War. I'm trying to help YOU out. :)

Don't come back crying when yours breaks then.:)
Come back? I won't have to go anywhere. If I'm one of the unluckly ones that goes out and buys one NOW (after they've fixed a majority of the defects) that breaks, I just send it off and they send it back fixed.

I'd like to say that I'd be in withdrawal every moment I'm waiting for it to come back, but I doubt I'd get that obsessed over any one machine, much less a PS3.

You enjoy your PS3 though - seriously. I'm glad that it won't break down on you, and I'm glad you can enjoy some games I just don't care for.

Now, if you'll reread my first post, you'll see that I never intended to argue AT ALL about the PS3. Therefore, I ask that you kindly leave me alone. But if you must, you can once again scour through my post and reply to each sentence and I will only happily reply back.

[constantine]

Originally posted by Dejected_Angel
At least you admit when you're wrong:D

hello pot, have you seen mr/miss kettle...they're calling you black. :rolleyes:





Games are meant to be played. So what you know what it is about?
Try again please..;)

How about this? There are more games he'd play on the 360 than the PS3. You know people like you are sued in the UK...we call them cold calling salesman, and they like to apply pressure as well. either can they read subject content very well.



We haven't even seen a screenshot from that game yet. Whats the point of hyping a game that won't be out for a while...:)

Hence the word hype.



Don't come back crying when yours breaks then.:)

Oh grow up, that was a revsion A fault from a Graphics processor that had insufficient air venting to fed it's heatsink, because by the way, the graphics cardis powerful enough to need a fairly sizeable heatsink. If you'd bothered to read anything more than the most selective news that passed before your eyes, you'd know that not only has the issue been rectified, but they stated that the warranty is extended for models built before the summer this year - meaning, incidentally, that if you do] end up with at broken sys[em, not only do you get a replacement, but you also get a couple of months of xbox live, atnd usually a game free. But you wouldn't be keen on people knowing that, being such a big boy PS3 geek that you are...would you?

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by constantine
Oh grow up, that was a revsion A fault from a Graphics processor that had insufficient air venting to fed it's heatsink, because by the way, the graphics cardis powerful enough to need a fairly sizeable heatsink. If you'd bothered to read anything more than the most selective news that passed before your eyes, you'd know that not only has the issue been rectified, but they stated that the warranty is extended for models built before the summer this year - meaning, incidentally, that if you do] end up with at broken sys[em, not only do you get a replacement, but you also get a couple of months of xbox live, atnd usually a game free. But you wouldn't be keen on people knowing that, being such a big boy PS3 geek that you are...would you?
:lol: At least Microsoft is addressing the problem, too. They're not just saying, "Too bad, sucker - we ain't fixin' your 360" or not making sure the ones being produced now are fixed. They're giving you a warranty and everything. In my book, that beats a company that tries to sucker you into buying an admittedly good product that will be obselete soon by lowering the price.

And thank you, Luffy. You give me hope for people in the world.

[Reuben]

Yeah, Microsoft has lost 1.3 billion dollars just for fixing everyone's 360s.

They obviously are working hard at fixing the problem. 1.3 billion isn't the type of money you play around with.

[constantine]

not forgetting the free games, xbox live subscription, warranty extensions...

[boyde92]

360's SUCK

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by boyde92
360's SUCK
Go away.

[constantine]

Originally posted by boyde92
360's SUCK

Do be a good boy and get a life

[Renu]

its worth it
you can get it cheap and MooD it that way u can get free games too
but i prefer pc games over console
i bought a x360 just to play god of war 1/2 good game
i even got miself PS2tipe Joypad for xbox i find it easyer to manuver than the xPad

[boyde92]

Originally posted by constantine
Do be a good boy and get a life

yeah right

its a shame that u have to pay for xbox live
when u can get playstation network for free and its alot better!!!!

[j03superbat]

Playstation Network? Better?

:rotfl:

[j03superbat]

Well after months of these posts debating it, I finally got myself an Xbox 360 Elite, though for a good while I was heavily considering just the Premium. In the end, the 120GB harddrive and the sleek black exterior won me over. Oh, and it came with two games - Forza Motorsport 2 and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance. While $450 was a bit more than I would have liked to pay for the 360, I justified it in the end that it was still a better buy than the $400 PS3 because there are more games on 360 that I want to play, and I have never liked the Dualshock controller. Even now, gripping the 360 controller feels wonderful.

Haven't hooked it up online yet - there's a complication on my behalf regarding placement of equipment that prevents me thus far - but I'll be looking forward to checking out the online aspects of the 360.

What I think I'm happiest about is that I'll finally be able to play stuff like:

Bioshock
Gears of War
Halo 3
Splinter Cell Double Agent
Rainbow Six Vegas
Dead Rising
Assassin's Creed
Call of Duty 4

as well as future releases like Resident Evil 5 and Grand Theft Auto 4.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by boyde92
360's SUCK

No kidding.


Originally posted by j03superbat
as well as future releases like Resident Evil 5 and Grand Theft Auto 4.

You do know the XBOX version of GTA4 won't be the full game, don't you? It's a truncated version of the PS3 game.

[Matro]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo

You do know the XBOX version of GTA4 won't be the full game, don't you? It's a truncated version of the PS3 game.

Why? In what way?

[Mello Penelo]

Well, at first, GTA4 was going to be a PS3 exclusive. Which I think is stupid because it has the potential to sell on all platforms.

Anyway, I digress. When it was announced to be on the 360 also, it was said the game would be fundamentally different.

The leaked information I'm reading now on a lot of gaming forums is the way it's fundamentally different is in the 360 version, Microsoft wants better graphics than the PS3, but still wants it to fit to one disc, so there won't be the full story.

Microsoft wants more sweeping pans and bullet-time imagery and more songs on the radio.

[Matro]

Doesn't sound too bad really.

The 360 doesn't nearly suck though. It's a pretty solid gaming console. I'm hoping to get one from my girlfriend this Christmas. I'll still get one if she doesn't :)

[Mello Penelo]

See, but I'm an old school gamer. I'd much rather have hundreds of hours of gameplay rather than flashy graphics.

If a game was 8-bit, but had entirely too much to do, I'd prefer that over a game that pushes the limits of a console's graphics capacity.

I've got a couple of RPGs on my PS2 that have two discs. They're reeeeeally long.

[Theshadow129x]

im sorry mello but gta 4 will have exclusive episodic content for the 360 and not for the ps3. it was announced by microsoft and rockstar that there would be 2 episodes for only the 360. i believe it wont be any different than the ps3 version especially if they compress the data enough to fit everything on the dvd9 disc they use for the xbox.

and is the xbox 360 worth having? yeah i believe the 360 is where its at right now. they have a huge next gen library and theres good and great game attached to its line up. if you look at ps3's line up they have alot of their games are mediocre at best with a few good or great games. i highly recommend the 360. its worth the money

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
See, but I'm an old school gamer. I'd much rather have hundreds of hours of gameplay rather than flashy graphics.
Which is why I can't understand why you have a PS3. All I've seen on it are flashy graphics. And I don't see why you can't accept that there are a ton of games on 360 I personally want to play. Maybe you don't want to play the same games, because I certainly have no interest in Final Fantasy XIII or even Metal Gear Solid IV. But I have a list as long as my arm of games released in the past two years that I want to play on my 360. I went to GameStop today and I couldn't decide which games to buy - I couldn't possibly afford all of them. My GameFly Q is rapidly filling up with 360 games. I have no regrets, and I don't see how anyone can say the 360 sucks when all these great games are on it. If the Red Rings of Death and noisy fans are an issue for so many people, then I truly feel sorry for the ones who hate it for that.

As for the GTA IV debate - if true, then I'm mad at Microsoft for demanding flashier graphics over the same content (since most games so far have accomplished both), but I haven't heard this news, and I did hear that the 360 is getting two exclusive episodes, so I'm staying optimistic that GTA IV will be as good a game on the 360 as on the PS3.

[UDStyle]

Those that dislike the 360 either:

*Don't own one/Never played on one
*Have very little game system knowledge
*Are ok to settle for mediocre tech (ex. wii)
*Have never played Gears of War, Halo 3, Orange Box, Mass Effect, Bioshock.
*Like to drop opinions for the sake of opinion making

Out of the 3 Next Gen systems Xbox360 is still top dog at this point. To be fair the great PS3 game hasn't dropped yet so theres no real competition right now, but as far as power and performance the Xbox360 is the ideal next generation console. Note that I didn't even include the wii.

In fact if you are to get a game console this season the only credible choice right now is the 360. Nothing overly exciting has dropped for the PS3 so there is no point in buying one just to own it.

[Mello Penelo]

Take it from this gamer:

* Won't ever own a 360
* Have massive video game knowledge, dating back to the Colecovision, ZX Spectrum and Intellivision
* Will never own a Wii because it's mediocre tech
* Have Bioshock on computer. Still isn't great
* Opinions are like ass holes. Everyone has one. And even yours stinks. So don't walk around like yours smells better than everyone else's.

[Theshadow129x]

^^ funny.

but seriously the 360 is where its at. its so terrible how people can be like fanboys and fan girls over systems and call them selves gamers. a true gamer can acknowledge a good game no matter what system its on. I have all three consoles but my 360 has been getting the most play time from me this year mostly because they have had good and great games come out all year round. almost every month there was a game that I wanted to pl;ay this year and i have loved it. my wii doesnt get alot of play because most of the games that are released are from last gen (though mario galaxy is fun). My ps3 sees the least action. i got the unit when iut first dropped and i've played a few games along they way that i was okay with but not happy with. drake's fortune is good but i wish there was more to the line to be honest. yeah the ps3 has alot of good games coming soon like God of war 3 and MGS 4, but im not looking at games that are GOING to be coming out im looking at games that are out and seriously the 360 is where the fun and action is at. their xbox live service is unrivaled and it gets improved often. get a 360 and i promise you will love the console if you are still searching for one.

[Mello Penelo]

I have my reasons for never, ever buying a 360.

[pycer]

Without getting into the silly fanboy arguments, I have a 360 and have remained very happy with it since I got it.

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Take it from this gamer:

* Won't ever own a 360
* Have massive video game knowledge, dating back to the Colecovision, ZX Spectrum and Intellivision
* Will never own a Wii because it's mediocre tech
* Have Bioshock on computer. Still isn't great
* Opinions are like ass holes. Everyone has one. And even yours stinks. So don't walk around like yours smells better than everyone else's. So what are you trying to convince me of? That your opinion is ill-informed ass hole? :lol: This is the third topic in less then a week that I have seen you put yourself in a foot-in-mouth situation. As far as my opinions, sorry dude, I will do just that. Especially since mine smell like a French bakery :D. We already established on the mass effect topic that you do not have "massive video game knowledge" as you claim to have. Bioshock isn't great? No no no, it's not great TO YOU. The critics and the majority fans who have played/bought it would disagree whole-heartedly.

Regardless of one persons feelings against the Xbox360, it is still the best Next Generation gaming system out there. Call it an opinion, but usually when opinions are backed by facts, figures, and high agree ability, it becomes a much more credible opinion bordering on an observation of fact. Everytime I have come into contact with someone who is against the 360 the reasons often come out to be ridiculous when spoken in concern to the general gamer community. If someone doesn't like the Xbox360 on a personal level that's fine, it's their preference, it's confined to them, and no one cares. But if you dislike it and claim it's a bad system on the whole, thats a statement that encompasses all gamers. If that's the case then at least back up your statement with points that the gaming community as a whole can relate to. Not just personal hang-ups. It's not a logical argument. With regard to the initial point of this topic, the Xbox360 is definitely worth getting.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
* Will never own a Wii because it's mediocre tech
Thought you'd rather have hundreds of hours of gameplay than flashy graphics, Mello.

Although I admit not many Wii games other than Metroid Prime 3, Twilight Princess, and Resident Evil 4 offer that right now.

At any rate, all your arguments are kind of moot now - I bought the 360, along with Gears of War and an extra controller. And before that, I asked in the original post that only 360 owners bother to post because I was never going to buy a PS3 and I was interested in hearing the pros and cons from firsthand 360 owners.

Speaking of which, are Achievements Points really good for anything?

[Theshadow129x]

nah achievements are just for bragging rights because alot of them are hard to get. it just basically shows how big of a gamer you are. I've had my 360 for two years and after 30 games being played, last night i finally broke 10030 gamer points. lol its pretty pathetic.

oh and just so everyone knows I have a launch 360 and never had a problem with the red rings of death. :)

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by UDStyle
We already established on the mass effect topic that you do not have "massive video game knowledge" as you claim to have.

I'm sorry, but I cannot defend a gaming company who purposely chooses to not show videos of gameplay in its advertisements. That game was sold on that one FMV. Besides, I hate choose-your-own-adventure RPGs.

So when I state my opinion, mind your own damned business. You can respond, but don't insult-- which seems to be all you're interested in doing.


Originally posted by UDStyle
Bioshock isn't great? No no no, it's not great TO YOU. The critics and the majority fans who have played/bought it would disagree whole-heartedly.

Least of my gripes about it? No multiplayer.


Originally posted by j03superbat
Although I admit not many Wii games other than Metroid Prime 3, Twilight Princess, and Resident Evil 4 offer that right now?

I have Twilight Princess and Resident Evil 4 on my GameCube.

[Theshadow129x]

Mello, a game doesnt need to have a multiplayer mode for it to be a great game, i didnt like it very much either, it was just alright to me but a game doesnt need to have multiplayer to be awesome. i mean you like twilight princess and resident evil 4, both games dont have a multiplayer and yet were regarded as the best games in 2006 and 2004.

and i do hear what you mean about the fmv that they used for mass effect, but its nothing different that most games have done in the past to sell their games. assassins creed has done it, resident evil 4, heck superman returns. fmv are sometimes what sells the games for most gamers, hun. its not anything new and it wont go away.

[Mello Penelo]

If it's a first-person shooter, it needs to have even somewhat of a multiplayer mode. Even if it's screwed and limited. Twilight Princess didn't have one because they aren't first-person shooters and it would be stupid.

As for the FMVs, that's why I didn't get Assassin's Creed either. I've been spending most of my time playing Resistance: Fall of Man lately. Fantastic game.

And the Superman Returns game wasn't as bad as the 64 Superman, but it was still pretty bad.

[Theshadow129x]

Eh. Every game can, in some way, have a multiplayer option to it, but for me personally I think its a good thing that there are games, even first-person shooters, that focus on a single player experience. For a long time now, the single player experience has been dying away and i think its a great thing that some developers are trying to stick true to the single player option. and to be honest, I'd rather have a good multiplayer than a tacked on multiplayer that isn't really complete. If 2k boston were able to do a multiplayer mode on Bioshock and make it as nice as the single player game then that would have been awesome, but if it were tacked on there and they didn't put too much time into it like the single player, i would have to say forget it and leave as a single player game.

I know multiplayer is a big thing to people, but i dont think its a 'need' for video games. Halo 3 had an okay single player experience, and thats mostly due to the fact that they focused mostly on the multiplayer which to me wasnt cool. both modes should have had the same amounth of time spent on it but you could tell they worked on the multiplayer more.

as for fmvs, its one of the problems i had with ps3 when it was first announced. everything they showed was an fmv (the killzone 2 trailer) and they didnt really show gameplay. full motion video can really ruin a game experience for alot of people because they show you things that you wish you could do during game play, then when you play the game you cant do any of that. (Final Fantasy: dirge of cerberus anyone?)

and yeah superman returns wasnt as bad as Superman 64....did you or anyone ever beat it? because I called it quits after 15 minutes of the first level. Yeah superman returns was still bad though. I wish they would do actually an awesome superman game for once. :(

[boyde92]

out of the 3 consoles the PS3 is my favorite u can do anything with it,browse the internet just like on a computer,FREE online service unlike the 360 which is like 10 bucks a month or something,free demos from the Playstation store right on the console free wallpapers ,free themes,does not freeze after 30 minutes,built in blu ray player,u got to buy an HD dvd drive seperate from the 360 WTF?,its got remote play,u can hook up the psp wirelesly and the same thing on it as the ps3,and the rock band controller is wireless the 360 not wireless.then finally its not loud like the 360 can get its so quiet u have to chech and see if its really on.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Theshadow129x
(Final Fantasy: dirge of cerberus anyone?

Good implementation of a principle, but a horrible, horrible game. I liked the third-person shooter aspect, but the game was too boring. Too much talk, bad story, not enough gameplay.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by boyde92
out of the 3 consoles the PS3 is my favorite u can do anything with it,browse the internet just like on a computer,FREE online service unlike the 360 which is like 10 bucks a month or something,free demos from the Playstation store right on the console free wallpapers ,free themes,does not freeze after 30 minutes,built in blu ray player,u got to buy an HD dvd drive seperate from the 360 WTF?,its got remote play,u can hook up the psp wirelesly and the same thing on it as the ps3,and the rock band controller is wireless the 360 not wireless.then finally its not loud like the 360 can get its so quiet u have to chech and see if its really on.
Dude... seriously... I don't care about your PS3.

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
I'm sorry, but I cannot defend a gaming company who purposely chooses to not show videos of gameplay in its advertisements. That game was sold on that one FMV. Besides, I hate choose-your-own-adventure RPGs.

So when I state my opinion, mind your own damned business. You can respond, but don't insult-- which seems to be all you're interested in doing.



Least of my gripes about it? No multiplayer. I will do whatever I want to do. If you're sensitive about your "business" then don't post your business on a public forum. If you got ignorant things to say like "Mass Effect was sold on FMV" or that "No gameplay was ever shown in trailers" (feel free to stop by gametrailers.com) I'm gonna tear it down everytime. Let's get this straight, you tried to insult me, trying to be all cute using the bullet format I used, but instead displayed ignorance and personal issues. I never insulted you. I spoke the truth and the truth about you is insulting.

Your opinions are flawed and stem from obvious personal issues. This topic is not titled "Mello, how do you personally feel about Xbox360". The topic is in fact should a gamer get it, even though a specific gamer, it was directed to a general gamer perspective. Basically how does the console measure up to the average gamer. Personal problems become irrelevant in this context. That's why everybody (not just me) has been tearing down your argument. 99% of your points have no place within the context of this topic, but you don't seem to get the concept.

But anyways...

Boyde, This topic isn't about comparing the PS3 to the Xbox360, but I'll indulge you. And I apologize j03superbat. I know I am going off your original topic by doing this but let me clear this real quick dude.

The blu ray player shot up cost of a PS3 $300 more then a 360. The external HD drive for the 360 is $299. See where I'm going with this? 360 came out a year and a half before the PS3 and in that time Sony decided to install a blu ray feature. It's external on the 360 to compete with the blu ray feature as a necessity. They wouldn't preinstall HD at this time because of consumer consideration for those that bought a HD-less 360 for the last two years. It would be bad business.

Also my Xbox doesn't freeze after 30 mins, nor has it ever. My 360 isn't that loud, neither are any of my friend's 360's. The rest of your points do have merit however. I mean free is free and you can't beat that. The free online gameplay is definitely a plus, same with free themes, demos, etc. But then again the 360 also has free demos as well. They also have some free themes too. And then theres the most important issue: There is no great online game for the PS3. 360 has games like Gears of War and Halo 3 which are some of the most intense and satisfying online games. Besides Resistance, which unfortunately has PS1 quality graphics, there are not many PS3 games worth online time. I suppose you can say you're paying for quality with the Xbox Live subscription, but I admit that's a very loose assessment.

The Xbox360, like the PS3, has some flaws, but for gaming entertainment value for your buck the 360 wins out over the PS3. Concerning the point of this topic, 360 is a good gaming investment.

[Theshadow129x]

ok lets not turn this into one of those fanboy flaming threads. look the ps3 is good and there is no doubt that it will get better as time goes on, but if you are a gamer and you're looking for a system that as great games, its not worth the investment at this time. yes blu-ray is nice to have but you arent buying the ps3 for the movie playback capability, you're getting it for the games. i like my ps3 alot, heck when i get a chance i play warhawk and uncharted on it. but i play my 360 more than the ps3 mostly because i know the games are there and they have delievered a great next gen experience so far. its like 1 year later at the ps3's launch and they have like 3 triple A titles so far. the xbox has way more than that and its growing in its library. over 300 games thus far and a vast majority have gotten good reviews by critics and my newspaper i work for. the 360 is a great investment. if you havent tried one out and just hate it because you dont have it its just wrong to even speak on the topic on how the machine works.

[boyde92]

Originally posted by j03superbat
Dude... seriously... I don't care about your PS3.



Dude...seroiusly...GET A LIFE


Originally posted by UDStyle
I will do whatever I want to do. If you're sensitive about your "business" then don't post your business on a public forum. If you got ignorant things to say like "Mass Effect was sold on FMV" or that "No gameplay was ever shown in trailers" (feel free to stop by gametrailers.com) I'm gonna tear it down everytime. Let's get this straight, you tried to insult me, trying to be all cute using the bullet format I used, but instead displayed ignorance and personal issues. I never insulted you. I spoke the truth and the truth about you is insulting.

Your opinions are flawed and stem from obvious personal issues. This topic is not titled "Mello, how do you personally feel about Xbox360". The topic is in fact should a gamer get it, even though a specific gamer, it was directed to a general gamer perspective. Basically how does the console measure up to the average gamer. Personal problems become irrelevant in this context. That's why everybody (not just me) has been tearing down your argument. 99% of your points have no place within the context of this topic, but you don't seem to get the concept.

But anyways...

Boyde, This topic isn't about comparing the PS3 to the Xbox360, but I'll indulge you. And I apologize j03superbat. I know I am going off your original topic by doing this but let me clear this real quick dude.

The blu ray player shot up cost of a PS3 $300 more then a 360. The external HD drive for the 360 is $299. See where I'm going with this? 360 came out a year and a half before the PS3 and in that time Sony decided to install a blu ray feature. It's external on the 360 to compete with the blu ray feature as a necessity. They wouldn't preinstall HD at this time because of consumer consideration for those that bought a HD-less 360 for the last two years. It would be bad business.

Also my Xbox doesn't freeze after 30 mins, nor has it ever. My 360 isn't that loud, neither are any of my friend's 360's. The rest of your points do have merit however. I mean free is free and you can't beat that. The free online gameplay is definitely a plus, same with free themes, demos, etc. But then again the 360 also has free demos as well. They also have some free themes too. And then theres the most important issue: There is no great online game for the PS3. 360 has games like Gears of War and Halo 3 which are some of the most intense and satisfying online games. Besides Resistance, which unfortunately has PS1 quality graphics, there are not many PS3 games worth online time. I suppose you can say you're paying for quality with the Xbox Live subscription, but I admit that's a very loose assessment.

The Xbox360, like the PS3, has some flaws, but for gaming entertainment value for your buck the 360 wins out over the PS3. Concerning the point of this topic, 360 is a good gaming investment. ok u know what ur talking about,but the ps3 does have some great online games,Call of Duty 4,Motorstorm,Ridge Racer 7,Virtua Fighter 5.and more.i know all 360s are not loud but i sent mine to microsoft 3 times and they did not fix it at all,thats why i sold it and bought a ps3,in my opinion the ps3 is the best choice.

[Mello Penelo]

You're forgetting Resistance: Fall of Man.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by boyde92
Dude...seroiusly...GET A LIFE
Ha, that's rich. Follow your own advice. And learn how to type, since I'll just go ahead and assume you know how to spell.

ok u know what ur talking about,but the ps3 does have some great online games,Call of Duty 4,Motorstorm,Ridge Racer 7,Virtua Fighter 5.and more.i know all 360s are not loud but i sent mine to microsoft 3 times and they did not fix it at all,thats why i sold it and bought a ps3,in my opinion the ps3 is the best choice.
See, this is why there's a PS3 vs. 360 thread. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong or that you're unentitled to it, but that's the thread where you should put that. This thread has always been about the 360, and the 360 only, and it's starting to get to the point where I'm annoyed of hearing about the PS3, when in the FIRST POST I said I wasn't getting that console ever.

I haven't had any regrets with my 360 so far. As for the noise, only today when it was dead quiet in the room did I realize I could hear the 360's fan. It's not that bad. I also love the blades design for the XBOX dashboard far better than the design PS3 uses.

[boyde92]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
You're forgetting Resistance: Fall of Man. yeah that one and F.E.A.R

[UDStyle]

let's stick to the 360...

Also I forgot to mention. people looking to buy it or any console should look at what pros and cons of the system pertain to them. not everybody has the same situation or preferences. How does the 360 feel to you?

[j03superbat]

The 360 feels great, and I mean literally. I think I am in love with the controller, which feels fantastic. I really like the interface, I'm loving playing Gears of War with my friends, and just overall I really like it.

I haven't hooked up to Xbox Live yet, but when I do, you can bet I'll probably download every demo under the sun. I'll be online playing GoW, too.

:lol: What I found funny when I finally hooked it up is how small the Wii really is. I took the 360 in a different room and I was surprised that it wasn't as big as I thought it would be. Then I hooked it up right next to the Wii, which made my 360 look monstrously big. I keep joking that if the 360 falls over, the Wii is going to get crushed underneath.

[boyde92]

NOT TO GO OFF TOPIC J03SUPERBAT,but the wii is very small i feel the same way when its beside the ps3,when i had the 360 i didnt have the wii yet so i dont know how much bigger it would be,how much is xbox LIVE anyway?i didnt have mine long enough to hook it up.

[j03superbat]

$50 a year, or 8 bucks a month. I'm gonna' go with the year-long plan so that I don't have to worry about it for a while.

[boyde92]

pathetic

[Theshadow129x]

i hate how people talk about the 360's online like its impossible to make 50 bucks to play online. do you have a job? if so stop complaining because if yuou are working a decent job and get paid then 50 bucks a year isnt alot of money. the line up of games on psNetwork doesnt really touch the line up of games set up on xbox live. yeah i know i play warhawk and resistance on the psnetwork but there simply needs to be more games on there than that to say that Ps network is better than xbox live.

[Mello Penelo]

If you want to pay it, hey, be my guest. There's a lot of people on there playing Halo 3 and Gears of War.

I don't have online service for my PS3, but I could. I just don't think it's worth using. My brother has a 360 but doesn't pay for the online service because he doesn't think it's worth it.

[Theshadow129x]

Psnetwork is decent but it needs to be improved. but the thing is that ps3 does have the instant leg up on the xbox 360 with its accessibility to its online. with the 360 if you want to get online you either have to go to the store by a card and enter the code to get online where as ps3 is just a simple plug in and play to get online. its nice. now if only there were more games then it'd be close to perfect.

[Mello Penelo]

Yeah. Basically, I don't do online play as much. If I want my online fix, I just play World of Warcraft. I need to finish leveling my mage.

[Theshadow129x]

you have a mage?! so do I but Im part of the horde and im undead. i hate playing as the alliance, theres too many immature lil punks on there!

[Mello Penelo]

Yeah, I'm a Draeni mage, arcane spec, herbalism and alchemy. Alleria server.

[Theshadow129x]

down with the alliance! the day is coming. you'll see. :)

[Mello Penelo]

There was a huge war on my server about six months ago. The Alliance would get like eight full raid groups, then go rape the Undercity. Two days later, six Horde raid groups obliterated Ironforge. It went back and forth like four more times.

It was hilarious and aggravating all at the same time. All the NPCs were dead. :lol:

[Theshadow129x]

lmao what server is that? im on antoinidas (spelling maybe wrong). theres always something going on but nothing to the extent of what you said lol

[Mello Penelo]

Yeah, my server is very much into running instances all the time. No one ever wants to raid, unless they destroy capitol cities. :lol: It's very active and alive. I've had characters on other servers, but they're always pretty dead.

I was on Khadgar, but that server was too into raiding all the time and that just isn't my thing. The armor you get is only worth it to look at and for raiding. I'd much rather have good instance armor.

[Theshadow129x]

what has been your favorite instance so far in the game? I love! Shadowfang keep!

[Mello Penelo]

:lol: I can solo SFK. I think my favorite instance is Scarlet Monastery. Just not the graveyard.

[Theshadow129x]

Ouch. you just so made a fool of me in front of all these other kryptonsite pwners but i thought it was awesome when I first went there at level 24 im a level 45 now!

[Mello Penelo]

:lol: I kind of called it quits around level 54. I've still got the character, but I quit paying for it. I may try to get back into it.

[Theshadow129x]

lol i love it but i dont play it as much as i use to because im playing rock band and guitar hero 3 and mass effect and drakes fortune. when i get bored with those I go to wow. (no people im not a loser. i have an internship at my city newspaper but on my down time because i live alone i do play these video games)

[Theshadow129x]

get an xbox 360!!!!

[boyde92]

can u even play xbox one games on the 360?

[pycer]

Not that it matters that much, really, as if you want your old games nothing is stopping you from playing them in your old machine, but I digress...yes, a great deal of XBox 1 games are backwards compatible with the 360 via an xbox live update. The 360 is built using entirely different hardware configurations than the original, so each developer had to invest in making their titles backwards compatible on their own.

Personally, though, when I get a new console it's because I want the games that are coming for it, not for a previous console. I didn't get an original NES so I could play Atari 2600 games, for instance.

[Theshadow129x]

yaeh you can they have updates for you to play original xbo games and you can download them now with this recent update. I just downloaded indigo prophecy onto my harddrive and even though i've already played it, i had to get it again!!! awesome!

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by boyde92
can u even play xbox one games on the 360? Of course cuzzo. you been taking shots at the 360 all this time and you don't even know it's full capabilities? Ahhh man c'mon now.

[Theshadow129x]

^ thats why its good to at least try to get on the band wagon with 2 out of the consoles so u dont bash one while not knowing whats really going on with it.

[boyde92]

Originally posted by UDStyle
Of course cuzzo. you been taking shots at the 360 all this time and you don't even know it's full capabilities? Ahhh man c'mon now. no i did not know that cuz i only had mine for a week until it died but i have a new one now

i have all 3 consoles but i have played all of them and i still say the ps3 is the choice 360 in second wii in third

[Mello Penelo]

Depending on the model of 360, you can play older games. The base version allows for playing only greatest hits games. The expensive model is fully backwards compatible.

[boyde92]

thats stupid all the models should be the same,I mean all should be backwards compatible

[j03superbat]

It's the same deal with the PS3 - not all models are fully backwards-compatible.

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by j03superbat
It's the same deal with the PS3 - not all models are fully backwards-compatible. lol! I can't wait to see the attempt at a retort for that. nice one J.

So boyde, about all models should be the same and all should be backwards compatible..... :p

[boyde92]

the 80 gig 60 gig and the 20 are idont know about the 40 or the 80 but the first 3 are. oh wait the80 is 2 so i imagine the 40 is2.

[j03superbat]

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_3#Backward_compatibility):

In order to reduce manufacturing costs, the Emotion Engine (EE) is not included in European, Australian and South Korean systems. The 80 GB model released in North America also lacks the Emotion Engine (EE) CPU as well. Software emulation of the Emotion Engine is used in instead and as a result, backward compatibility for PlayStation 2 games is reduced. Backward compatibility is improved periodically through PlayStation 3 System Software updates, however Sony has stated that its focus will eventually shift to developing content exclusively for the PS3. In the 40 GB model, backwards compatibility with PlayStation 2 titles was omitted completely due to the removal of the PlayStation 2's "Graphics Synthesizer" GPU which omitted all PS2 based hardware from the system; however, compatibility for most PlayStation titles will still be provided through software emulation on the 40GB unit.
So as long as you're connected to the Internet, and download your periodical updates, your 40 gig PS3 will eventually be fully backward-compatible, with some hiccups and slowdowns in the occasional game that didn't follow Sony's Technical Requirements Checklist.

Nevertheless, the Wii is still the only console to be fully, backward-compatible with its predecessor.

As for 360, right now there are more current-gen games I want to play than last-gen, classic Xbox games.

[Theshadow129x]

personally i dont see what the big deal is with BC. I mean in the long run you'll play your newer games more than the older ones. Backwards compatibility isnt that big of a deal to me.

[UDStyle]

Originally posted by Theshadow129x
personally i dont see what the big deal is with BC. I mean in the long run you'll play your newer games more than the older ones. Backwards compatibility isnt that big of a deal to me. Couldn't agree more. I just found it funny that others were trying to use that as a negative about the 360, while the system they are promoting in spite has the same problem. For me, it was the irony that got my attention.

[Theshadow129x]

Rieght I mean I have the original kingdom haerts in my game library and even though I love it with a passion i havent popped it in to my ps3 in i dont know how long! and the same goes for ninja gaiden and the original kotor. their there for me to say i have some great games but i dont play them anymore because of the new games that are out. i dont see why peopel bash the 360 for the reason that alot of games are BC yet when you arent going to play them that much to begin because of newer games that come out.

[Mello Penelo]

I go with backward compatibility because it's getting harder and harder to find a PlayStation and I play a lot of PS1 games still. In fact, I play more PS1 games on my PS2 than I do PS2 games.

[Theshadow129x]

Thats awesome i mean i go back on my BC sometimes but I play newer games more than the old ones.

[pacofajita]

For your money's worth, yeah, get the 360. It's a lot of fun to play, but the PS3 still rocks harder.

[Theshadow129x]

^ in what aspect does it rock harder? its a more poerful machine with lesser game. yeah it rocks your wallet harder but it wont knock ur socks off.

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

I love my Xbox360, one reason I bought the xbox360 was halo was only played on that console and i've always loved the graphics of microsoft. Also Xbox live, not to forget too mention. Playing call of duty 4, on the xbox360 , blows your mind away, literally.

I own a PS2 and trading it for a PS3, I can't judge if
it's better then xbox360. Xbox360, is worth the money, though,i haven't regretted it.
I see your still in collage, i haven't reached that stage yet, but if you've organized your money well and can manage it-Buy it, PS3, doesn't have much games yet and still expensive, so it's not worth buying it, yet. Well, the final decision is up to you:)

[boyde92]

man the ps3 is way better,and u know they are only 400$ now right?

[UDStyle]

If only the sales figures and overall critic stance agreed with you boyde. If only.

[UDStyle]

UDstyle doesn't know what he is talking about in this thread at allDamn that's real insightful. And look at all the facts that you backed your statement with :lol: No, in fact I've backed what I have said by actual figures which you can find in my posts or by going to Gamespot, IGN, Gamfaqs or the the wikipedia articles that have sourced sales figures.. And who are you anyway? You are too new to even address me kid. :lol:

I'm just too real.. sigh, it's a curse.

[thmallville]

You are too new to even address me kid. :lol:


(pssst... she ain't new...)

[UDStyle]

(pssst... she ain't new...)

Yeah I had a feeling that it was a puppet account of a former member or someone who got banned. My realness makes ppl hate from behind the scenes. Like I said it's a curse.

[jazel]

go for it, my kids love it.:D

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Nah, I don't think you should buy a 360.
Please don't bash me. I mean I have always loved Sony, and probably forever will. But, if you like Halo and better shooting games, go with the 360. If you're looking for something that will include Blu-Ray stuff, go with PS3. But, I love both 360 and PS3.

[jazel]

wii.....more physical interaction, plus you can work up a sweat.:lol:

[j03superbat]

For the record... the 360 has been bought. I love it. Have had it for months now without any problems.

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I actually just bought a 360, so yeah. I like it too.