View Full Version : DL was dead @ the end of Landslide
vyperman7
05-23-2007, 12:30 AM
Man it bugged the hell out of me, how the end of Landslide and the beginning of Exploding Man were COMPLETELY different in regards to DL/Nikki. At the end of Landslide, DL takes the bullet, kills Linderman, and then dies in Nikki's arms. However, at the beginning of Exploding Man, when they are coming into the episode, DL is suddenly alive again after he kills Linderman, and he and Nikki are able to get up, teleport through the wall, and DL ends up surviving in the end.
I don't know if anyone has seen the film Misery with Kathy Bates. But this reminded me of what her character Annie Wilkes said in the film about how she hated the way that one week the hero would be trapped in the car, and then go over the cliff, and the next week, they would have the hero get out of the car just before it went over.
This is basically the same principle of what happened.
RedPhoenix23
05-23-2007, 12:33 AM
DL wasn't dead at the end of Landslide..... he was still breathing... go forth and rewatch!! :D
vyperman7
05-23-2007, 01:05 AM
He was dead in Nikki's arms with her sobbing. If he wasn't dead, it sure looked like it with his eyes being closed and his neck going limp. Usually when a person is on death's door, and they close their eyes/go limp, that is usually a sign that they died. Especially when they person whose arms they die in, starts to cry. That is exactly what happened at the end of Landslide. Then in Exploding Man, DL was conscious the whole time, telling Nikki to go on without him. He was not conscious at the end of Landslide. It looked like he died to me.
angeloo
05-23-2007, 03:08 AM
if u read the new graphic novel i think it shows that he should be fine
vyperman7
05-23-2007, 04:20 AM
Once again, I know that he turned out to be fine. But like I said at the end of the second to last episode "Landslide" they gave the appearance that he was dead. He took the bullet, killed Linderman, and then he became unconscious and his neck went limp in Nikki's arms as she started to cry, over what seemed to be his death. But in Exploding Man, when they did their mini-recap, DL never lost consciousness, and even told Niki to leave him behind. Then they got up, teleported out, and DL was fine by the end of the episode. Quite a turn of events from the end of Landslide.
frankzzsword
05-23-2007, 07:37 AM
true, they wanted some extra footage outta him, so they made him alive again.
chrisxs5
05-23-2007, 07:42 AM
They wanted you tto think he was dead at the end of landslide, so if he looked dead to you, then it was just good acting. But 30 seconds later when they showed the previews for "HTSAEM" he was alive.
vyperman7
05-23-2007, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by chrisxs5
They wanted you tto think he was dead at the end of landslide, so if he looked dead to you, then it was just good acting. But 30 seconds later when they showed the previews for "HTSAEM" he was alive.
My main gripe though, is that the end to both episodes were so different. Coming back into Exploding Man, they should have either had DL remain dead, or at least start off with him unconscious, have Nikki bust the two of them out, and then have DL regain consciousness out in the hall or later in the episode. The beginning of Exploding Man had him never lose consciousness at all and remain awake and alert the whole time. It was too much of a difference for me.
chrisxs5
05-23-2007, 12:34 PM
How could be different, they restarted the scene from the beginning. You got to see him get shot, take out linderman and then run away!
vyperman7
05-23-2007, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by chrisxs5
How could be different, they restarted the scene from the beginning. You got to see him get shot, take out linderman and then run away!
They are different.
Go back and watch the end of Landslide. DL gets shot, he kills Linderman, and then he proceeds to go limp and unconscious in Nikki's arms as she cries. That is what their situation was at the end of Landslide.
Then in Exploding Man, IT IS different. DL gets shot, kills Linderman, and then tells Nikki to leave him behind. Then she tells DL that she is not leaving him and asks him to teleport them through the wall. It is completely different.
whitenack
05-23-2007, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by chrisxs5
How could be different, they restarted the scene from the beginning. You got to see him get shot, take out linderman and then run away!
They're different. The dialogue is even different.
TheWidowmaker
05-23-2007, 05:11 PM
I picked up on that with numerous episodes. I don't think I would have realized it otherwise, but I watched the first 22 episodes back to back over a 2 day period two weeks ago. Just about every time, the beginning of the episode was slightly different from the way it happened in the end of the previous episode. Not sure why they do that.
Has anyone else noticed that?
c1n1st3r
05-23-2007, 06:01 PM
they do it in mostof the episodes when recapping to save time when continuing a scene, they reshoot it into a shorter time size, lots of shows do this sometimes
whitenack
05-23-2007, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by TheWidowmaker
I picked up on that with numerous episodes. I don't think I would have realized it otherwise, but I watched the first 22 episodes back to back over a 2 day period two weeks ago. Just about every time, the beginning of the episode was slightly different from the way it happened in the end of the previous episode. Not sure why they do that.
Has anyone else noticed that?
I did the exact same thing! The first episode I watched "live" on TV was Landslide. The rest I watched online, back to back, over about a weeks time. I got hooked!
chrisxs5
05-23-2007, 07:41 PM
To me it just looked like some editing for time. Never looked like anything was re-shot!
whitenack
05-23-2007, 07:44 PM
Yeah, it was reshot. I don't think there were any cuts in the HDYSAEM scene, and they didn't get in all the dialogue from the landslide epi.
TheWidowmaker
05-24-2007, 09:05 AM
I'm pretty sure its reshoots and not editing, since it seems that the dialogue is slighly different, although that can all be altered in post production.
boywithbluehanger
05-24-2007, 02:08 PM
Kinda gives the feel of the writers making things up as they go along lol
I guess that goes to show that not everything is set in stone. I wonder when they shot these episodes because the people who check out the graphic novels have to be seeing the storyline after the episodes were already filmed...or at least I'd think so.
chrisxs5
05-24-2007, 02:37 PM
The commentary said they just edited in a shortend scene to recap us by made it shorter for time!
STFanatic
05-24-2007, 07:55 PM
They edited the second shot from HR...errr.. Noah's handgun.
At one point Parkman looked dead, then the next scene he looked alive.
When working at an ER, I have seen several deaths of various causes, the actors who played dead did a great job.
MidgardDragon
05-24-2007, 11:40 PM
Looking dead and being dead are two different things. And on TV that's a very fine line.
But they did the same thing much earlier in the season, so I wasn't surprised. It doesn't bother me, no big deal really. Never understood why people get annoyed by such little things on TV.
vyperman7
05-25-2007, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Looking dead and being dead are two different things. And on TV that's a very fine line.
But they did the same thing much earlier in the season, so I wasn't surprised. It doesn't bother me, no big deal really. Never understood why people get annoyed by such little things on TV.
I didn't see it as a little thing though.
In Landslide, DL is either dead, or on the brink of death. He is unconscious and limp with Nikki crying. How it is in Exploding Man that he is fully conscious and able to teleport through a wall?
It would not have bugged me at all, if Nikki had picked up DL, fought her way out, and then DL came to later in the episode. That would have flowed with the end of Landslide. But the ending to Landslide and the opening of Exploding Man were completely different.
Also, I am not the only one that thought DL had died. If you go to various Heroes discussion forums where people were discussing Landslide right after it aired, tons of people thought he was dead.
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