" That means he's hiding in plain sight..."

[Patient101]

I mentioned this after Landside when sylar seemed to 'disappear' when talking to the blonde FBI chick, (I know it is a common effect in movies and such but this show seems to like to have explainations for these things) but it happened again in this episode when peter and bennet are finally showing up in kirby plaza and sylar 'hides in plain sight'.

I submit that since claude has been gone for awhile, and didnt make an appearance in the finale like some thought, that maybe sylar ate claude. They didnt make a huge deal out of it but it is just somthing I noticed...

[whitenack]

That's wild. I was trying to figure out how he was doing that. I wondered if maybe he flew in real quick or something. But the hiding in plain site comment I think refers to invisibility. The only one we know about with that power is Claude.

However, I would have thought they would have made a bigger deal about Claude's death.

[Patient101]

Yea me too. But I cant think of anyother explaination at this point, besides the fact I might be thinking too much into it, lol. I mean he doesnt have anyother power that would enable that sorta thing.

[candyapple]

It has been stated he has some kind of super speed. I think he just moves up on them too quickly to see or hear.

[whitenack]

But then Peter wouldn't have said, "he's hiding in plain sight".

[Uffr]

In the episode where he killed super hearing lady she said, "I didn't hear any foot steps". Then he said, "Because there weren't any." He definitally has some type of ability to avoid walking.

[whitenack]

Course, we know he has gotten some abilities from folks we haven't seen because he has the ability to cut skin/skulls.

I assumed he got the flying ability from a character we didn't see, in between the meetings with the two Saresh's.

I also guess he could have found someone else with the disappearing trick, instead of Claude.

[warcam]

In .07%, during the Peter/Sylar confrontation when Peter turns invisible, didn't Sylar say something to the effect of "I can't wait to try that one"? That, to me, would indicate he doesn't have the power of invisibility.

[whitenack]

Good point. So if it was invisibility, he would have had to have learned it since that first meeting. Like, from Claude.

[Uffr]

They would have mentioned Claude getting killed. Even if not in the show then surely in the graphic novels.

[j-kent]

Originally posted by whitenack
Course, we know he has gotten some abilities from folks we haven't seen because he has the ability to cut skin/skulls.


No that's his telekinesis taken from Brian back in the episode "Six Months Ago"- presumably his first power. He is so advanced with his telekinesis he can finely control it to make precision cuts

[jdg]

Peter would have been able to see him even if he was invisible though, just like he saw Claude.

[chrisxs5]

I just started a thread on this in the spoilers but maybe its:

Umbrakenesis
The ability to move shadows and darkness with ones mind.

Thing about. take a step to the side and make an area your in completely dark! He also always seems to have a big shadow. I know am the first to always say it was just the lightning, but somehow he does hide. Also why would that ability listed?
http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/wiki/index.php/Abilities#Umbrakenesis

[Lothahnus]

I think its more along the lines of a limited teleport like night crawler.

examples:
When chasing peter and clair he appears next to peter from 300 feet away in less then a second.

The super hearing lady did not hear him walk up because he made no foot steps.

They show the plaza empty except for peter and mr. bennet. then boom Sylar is right there.

[Ginx]

Originally posted by Patient101
I mentioned this after Landside when sylar seemed to 'disappear' when talking to the blonde FBI chick, (I know it is a common effect in movies and such but this show seems to like to have explainations for these things) but it happened again in this episode when peter and bennet are finally showing up in kirby plaza and sylar 'hides in plain sight'.

I submit that since claude has been gone for awhile, and didnt make an appearance in the finale like some thought, that maybe sylar ate claude. They didnt make a huge deal out of it but it is just somthing I noticed...

it makes sense, but it also makes me sad. I really liked Claude.

I am kinda leaning more towards that Sylar just freaking strolled up to Peter and Noah in the square - I mean, they weren't exactally paying attention now were they.

I think that Sylar is just a cool-calm character that strolls up, disappears into a crowd. He doesn't need Claude's power to be a sneaky SOB - he just need to be tactful and wait for the opportune moment. Which Sylar often does now.

He's got the waitress' super learning power - so Sylar is probably just able to anticipate what people are going to do......at least to some extent.


Originally posted by chrisxs5
I just started a thread on this in the spoilers but maybe its:

Umbrakenesis
The ability to move shadows and darkness with ones mind.

Thing about. take a step to the side and make an area your in completely dark! He also always seems to have a big shadow. I know am the first to always say it was just the lightning, but somehow he does hide. Also why would that ability listed?


Hmmm....that is interesting. Now THAT would be a power that would be cool to see.

We already know that Sylar (and Peter for that matter) have more powers than we've seen either of them use. So it's possible that Sylar can bend into the shadows etc.

Or maybe he just trained with Batman........:p

[chrisxs5]

I thought he looked a little like Robin!

[Ginx]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
I thought he looked a little like Robin!

LOL

Well, I was watching the NBC commentary and the creators/writers were saying that Sylar just has a way of popping up outta no where. Not like it's his power or anything. Just that he's a sneaky one.

[chrisxs5]

Unless they change their minds! :rotfl:

[jdg]

Originally posted by Lothahnus
I think its more along the lines of a limited teleport like night crawler.

examples:
When chasing peter and clair he appears next to peter from 300 feet away in less then a second.

The super hearing lady did not hear him walk up because he made no foot steps.

They show the plaza empty except for peter and mr. bennet. then boom Sylar is right there.

I thought the super hearing lady didn't hear him because she had her iPod going?

[chrisxs5]

She wore the ipod to help control her power. But she could still hear stuff.

[jdg]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
She wore the ipod to help control her power. But she could still hear stuff.

I was pretty sure she said that the only thing that 'blocks it out' was the music on the iPod. I'll go Tivo it this weekend, we're going to have a Marathon looking for plot holes ;)

[chrisxs5]

But remember when Mohinder and Sylar got there, Mohinder was yelling to get her attention. She pulled off the mask and the earphones and said, I hear you.

[Dpyro]

yeah i remember when she said that and i also remember her saying

super hearing lady- i didnt hear your foot steps

sylar- thats because there werent any

something like that

[chrisxs5]

True - which brings us full circle to the question, how does Sylar move with out being heard and hide in plain sight?

[angeloo]

he can hover with TK, unless he has more powers we dont kno about

[chrisxs5]

He has at least one more power we dont know about from the novels. He killed a victim currently known as David! But he did have a list that he took from pa suresh and in another novel he said Zane was the last one on the his list. So it depneds on how many was on the list!

[Redhouse]

Thats assuming that James is definitely the Iceman. I'm still pretty sure David was Ice dude and that James had something else.

Also, don't forget, in the Genesis files there is a file labeled "Dynamic Camoflage". http://heroeswiki.com/images/d/dd/Genesis_files.jpg Whether DynaCamo is the same as invisibility is debatable, but who knows, anything is possible with Heroes.

[Lothahnus]

Originally posted by angeloo
he can hover with TK, unless he has more powers we dont kno about

he does have more powers we have not learned about yet. Beside the freezing guy and the TK guy there were 2 or 3 other deaths at that they never showed what those powers were from.

[Redhouse]

Theres 2 dead people that had their heads cut open that we know of: James Walker and a man presumably named David. One of those two, my theory is David, had cryokinesis (freezing). The other one of those 2 had an unknown ability. If Sylar has something that allows him to "hide in plain sight" its most likely from the other one of those two men, my theory being James Walker.

And they showed the TK guy's death in Six Months Ago.

Hmmm, I just found some new interesting information. http://heroeswiki.com/Power_theft
Under the "Powers Stolen" heading it says that Mohinder told the FBI in Fallout that Sylar had killed 6 people from the List. He has also killed 4 people since then. So now, assuming Mohinder was right about how many people he has killed, Sylar has these powers: TK, Cryokinesis, Memory, Liquefication, Hearing, Precognition, and Radioactivity from 7 people. We know "David" and James were killed and had their heads split open, so that means 1 unknown and 2 known person(s) that had 2 unknown and 1 known abilities have been killed by Sylar.
Confusing you yet? I tried triple-checking to make sure that all makes sense. Sorry if it doesn't.

[Uffr]

So we're missing three powers? Interesting.

[jazzylg]

He's be a hand full in either the Marvel or DC universe!

[ForgottenShadow]

I wish they'd show us all of these powers.

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by Redhouse
Thats assuming that James is definitely the Iceman. I'm still pretty sure David was Ice dude and that James had something else.

Also, don't forget, in the Genesis files there is a file labeled "Dynamic Camoflage". http://heroeswiki.com/images/d/dd/Genesis_files.jpg Whether DynaCamo is the same as invisibility is debatable, but who knows, anything is possible with Heroes.
I love that one and think I will chose that one as one of the missing powers from now on. That would make since for Peter as well. They seem to like to give them the same opposing powers.
Lets think about for a second, If you were out hunting and wanted to hide in plain site what would you do? Of course you would wear camaflouge! That just seems like the best option.

[The Ninth Doctor]

I like the umbra-kinesis theory.

As for the "there werent any footsteps" i would say that he's probably able to levitate with the tk.

And Tim Kring said that if Eccleston is available, Claude will be back Season 2.

Dynamic Camoflauge- how would that work differently than invisbility? Maybe you acctualy change color to match your surroundings, whereas in invisibility you bed light around you. (Or, since Peter is able to see Claude, maybe its like in Sg-1 when they partially enter a higher dimmension, and you can see others who enter the demmension, but you still become invisible.) I would also think that DC would be less effective while moving.

[chrisxs5]

I think thats it, it would be less effective. Kind've like invisibility that you cant take with you. Like those people who paint themselves to like the wall behind them. But this could come in handy depending on where a battle took place. Naturally in a forest where you createan actual camo look, or maybe even somewhere like a refinery where everything is monochromatic.

[STFanatic]

Hmm... Someone scarey, Mama Petrelli's name has been bandied about..... I got it!! It is a evil Sock Monkey!!!

[chrisxs5]

^You know tommorrow there will be spoof of your Sock Monkey on youtube! :lol:

[STFanatic]

Heh heh heh More than likely:D

With the creative team on Heroes, it is hard to guess where they will go.
I am ready for the rumors to start.

[chrisxs5]

It doesnt matter who ends up the big bad villian now, I will forever call them the Sock Monkey! :rotfl:

[jdg]

Originally posted by Redhouse
Theres 2 dead people that had their heads cut open that we know of: James Walker and a man presumably named David. One of those two, my theory is David, had cryokinesis (freezing). The other one of those 2 had an unknown ability. If Sylar has something that allows him to "hide in plain sight" its most likely from the other one of those two men, my theory being James Walker.

And they showed the TK guy's death in Six Months Ago.

Hmmm, I just found some new interesting information. http://heroeswiki.com/Power_theft
Under the "Powers Stolen" heading it says that Mohinder told the FBI in Fallout that Sylar had killed 6 people from the List. He has also killed 4 people since then. So now, assuming Mohinder was right about how many people he has killed, Sylar has these powers: TK, Cryokinesis, Memory, Liquefication, Hearing, Precognition, and Radioactivity from 7 people. We know "David" and James were killed and had their heads split open, so that means 1 unknown and 2 known person(s) that had 2 unknown and 1 known abilities have been killed by Sylar.
Confusing you yet? I tried triple-checking to make sure that all makes sense. Sorry if it doesn't.

Did he end up with the 'Memory' power? I thought Hiro prevented that and the girl died from her tumor?

[STFanatic]

From the "list" on the computer screen, there were several deceased listed there.
Were they from Sylar, or "other causes"?

[chrisxs5]

No Hiro TPed out before he had the chance to save her. Sylar even used her power in an online novel.

[jdg]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
No Hiro TPed out before he had the chance to save her. Sylar even used her power in an online novel.

Where are these novels located? Who writes them?

[STFanatic]

Originally posted by jdg
Where are these novels located? Who writes them?

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/


I love 'em, I have them all saved in .pdf

The creative team from Heroes oversees them.

[jdg]

Originally posted by STFanatic
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/


I love 'em, I have them all saved in .pdf

The creative team from Heroes oversees them.

Cool ... thanks! So what is in the novels is basically Canon?

[STFanatic]

Yes, they are to tell the stories that did not make it to the screen.

Plus fill us in on who some people are and what happened to them or where they got thier start.

[Digitalsteel]

He definately has some power we havent seen yet. The first thing I said to my gf when Sylar popped up behind peter was "he definately has some other power we dont know about"

First, he did it at the high school when he appeared behind peter in a split second
Second, he did it when he killed Dale for her superhearing and Third, to peter again in the finale.

There was a theory speculating that he can "shadow meld" or move in the shadows. Its an interesting theory

[chrisxs5]

Umbraknesis - The ability to control shadows (basically)

He does have at least 1 unknown power from a person he killed in the novels.

[bobleigh]

a

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by bobleigh
a
huh????

[STFanatic]

Maybe it was a grade?
We got an "A"!!! Woo-Hoo!!

[j-kent]

lol I prefer not to look into it too deeply, esp since the man is dead...until said otherwise, it's simply just a cliche omg-turn-around-bam right behind you hollywood antagonist thing

[chrisxs5]

Exactly! Hollywood all the way!

It cant be an "a" only ever got a "c"! :lol: