technically, Peter may not survive explosion

[fzbandit]

wouldn't an explosion pretty much blow you into pieces? Including your brain? If Peter's brain is not intact, he wouldn't be able to survive the explosion and regenerate. No brain, no regenerate.

[chrisxs5]

Peter generates a nucluar explosion from the outside of his body. It doesnt come from inside! It;s his body expelling too much energy, like ours does heat! If the energy was inside with no way to escape then yes he would explode. But he is releasing it!

[SYLARFAN]

PLus, how would Ted Sprague had survived all those explosions?

[fzbandit]

Originally posted by SYLARFAN
PLus, how would Ted Sprague had survived all those explosions?

what explosions are you referring to?

[superhiro09]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
Peter generates a nucluar explosion from the outside of his body. It doesnt come from inside! It;s his body expelling too much energy, like ours does heat! If the energy was inside with no way to escape then yes he would explode. But he is releasing it!


Ow! headache!

but i agree.....well about the releasing the energy part. he isnt dead.

[whitenack]

Also, we know from the episode "5 Years Gone", that he was the cause of the explosion and he survived it.

[SYLARFAN]

Originally posted by SYLARFAN
PLus, how would Ted Sprague had survived all those explosions?

He blew the Bennett home to pieces (and part of Claire, lol) and still survived. How can you survive all those little nuclear tidbits qand still live (till Sylar eats your brain)

[fzbandit]

Originally posted by SYLARFAN
He blew the Bennett home to pieces (and part of Claire, lol) and still survived. How can you survive all those little nuclear tidbits qand still live (till Sylar eats your brain)

I see what you're getting at, but that wasn't really an explosion. Ted was kind of just glowing really bright with radiation. He would have exploded if Claire hadn't saved the day. But I do agree with the theory that peter didn't die because he gave off the explosion. However, from the story line of the show, it was made to seem that if Ted or Sylar would have exploded that they would have died. Because they consistently said that Peter could survive because he could regenerate. So there must be some problems for those who can't regenerate. Ted or Sylar would have either exploded or died from the radiation apparently. Who knows??:(

[KryptonzGirl]

There was a small explosion at Bennett's house..enough to blow Claire's face off that's for sure. Ted was perfectly fine..it's like the eye of a hurricane, the explosion happened outside of Ted, and it will most likely be the case with Peter.

[angeloo]

ok remember the future episode...? remember how he survived after he exploded new york? dont understand how people think hes dead ... lol

[whitenack]

Originally posted by KryptonzGirl
There was a small explosion at Bennett's house..enough to blow Claire's face off that's for sure. .

I think her face was burned off from the radiation exposure / heat, not any explosion.

Regardless, as I said earlier and angeloo referred, we know he can survive an explosion like that because he s alive in the "Five Years Gone" episode.

Case closed.

[j-kent]

That's sucks, now peter is going to slowly kill the people he is around and loves just like Ted with his wife because he gives off radiation too lol.. unless he can control it, but uhhhh it ain't looking like it thus far

[khalil]

how come nathan can still hold peter when peter is glowing ?
he would have burned himself when flying and probably die before he could reach anywhere.

[ForgottenShadow]

Nathan can fly pretty damn fast. ;)

[whitenack]

Originally posted by khalil
how come nathan can still hold peter when peter is glowing ?
he would have burned himself when flying and probably die before he could reach anywhere.
He's a hero.

[chrisxs5]

There is a whole other thread on How Nathan can hold him, trust me you dont want to argue in 2 seperate places.

Ted did blow up when he was in the desert! He killed a bunch of federal agents, which is what Agent Audrey was referring to when she arrested him in NY! This happened in the novel "How do you stop an exploding Man".

[Yoshua]

of course peter could survive the explosion.


In 5 years in the future Peter admitted he caused the explosion, and went even more emo and angst, and obviously survived.


The thing about that time line that doesn't fit is this though.



1-Hiro went back in time to save the cheer leader
2-Originally in Hiro's time line Peter could not have had Claires ability because Sylar killed her.
3-Peter still survived without the ability so 'exploding' must be a refference to a release of force and not the physical explosion of the man.





Or else once the cheerleader was saved the world STILL got blown up becuase that would alter the time line for this.


1-Cheerleader saved
2-Nuke still blows up
3-Since the cheer leader was saved Peter lived too
4-Nuke still must explode sometime in season 2 because even with claire and peter alive in the future, NY still explodes.

[whitenack]

In FYG, Claire was saved.

Hiro going back to tell Peter to save the cheerleader and FYG are two separate futures.

There's nothing that tells us that Peter survived the first future's explosion.

[Yoshua]

Originally posted by whitenack
In FYG, Claire was saved.

Hiro going back to tell Peter to save the cheerleader and FYG are two separate futures.

There's nothing that tells us that Peter survived the first future's explosion.


The hiro in FYG had the time line still up, he knew that the pivot point was the cheerleader being saved even after she was saved.


The future didn't change drastically, or at least not in the way you would think it did.


It wasn't a different future that Hiro from today went to, it was the same future that Hiro from FYG who was trying to save the past was from. Which means that the bomb goes off regardless.

That would also explain what was meant when the writer said that the bomb would go off regardless and then retracted to 'maybe'.


Wait till season 2 when the bomb still goes off because you CAN'T change the future.



My stance on the future is that it is set in stone, if you change the players in the game the Powers That Be will just bring in substitutes to get the job done.



So Claire and Peter were taken out of the game? Sylar disapeared, the bomb may not be a person. Any number of things could still happen to cause the city to explode.


Until there is another trip to the future to show New York not blown up, I am going to assume that the first answer from the writer that said the bomb would go off is the right one, we just got the time frames wrong now.


[i]There's nothing that tells us that Peter survived the first future's explosion. [/B]



as for that line, the Future Peter admitted to being the bomb.... he survived without Claires power.


Also he had a scar, do we have proof that the future Peter could regenerate? I need to go back and watch FYG.

[chrisxs5]

But then there is nothing to look forward to. In FYG all of NY was destroyed, but the bomb didnt go off in NY now, so it has obviously been changed!

[jazzylg]

Whatever genetic traits that allowed ted to exist with the use of that power, peter now possesses the same traits, thus he's protected from its effects. His scar in the future could be a result of a severe injury, possibly near decapitation, that would only heal that way.

[angeloo]

im pretty sure that he got scared from the haition being somewhere close to him... i cant see any other way hed get scared unless he got a peice of something through the front of his face into his brain, and when they took it out he couldnt heal completly but i doubt it..

[thedarknight]

Originally posted by Yoshua
The hiro in FYG had the time line still up, he knew that the pivot point was the cheerleader being saved even after she was saved.


The future didn't change drastically, or at least not in the way you would think it did.


It wasn't a different future that Hiro from today went to, it was the same future that Hiro from FYG who was trying to save the past was from. Which means that the bomb goes off regardless.

That would also explain what was meant when the writer said that the bomb would go off regardless and then retracted to 'maybe'.


Wait till season 2 when the bomb still goes off because you CAN'T change the future.



My stance on the future is that it is set in stone, if you change the players in the game the Powers That Be will just bring in substitutes to get the job done.



So Claire and Peter were taken out of the game? Sylar disapeared, the bomb may not be a person. Any number of things could still happen to cause the city to explode.


Until there is another trip to the future to show New York not blown up, I am going to assume that the first answer from the writer that said the bomb would go off is the right one, we just got the time frames wrong now.





as for that line, the Future Peter admitted to being the bomb.... he survived without Claires power.


Also he had a scar, do we have proof that the future Peter could regenerate? I need to go back and watch FYG.

I think your stance is hilarious the creator even said in an interview that most every mystery in the begginning would be tied up by the finale which it was. The bomb didn't blow up New York, and wont again in the future. Now they are delving into the the previous generation of heroes.

[TKFlash]

didn't he survive it it the future? If he did I think it was because Claire was with him.

[The Ninth Doctor]

He survived because nuclearkinesis comes with an auto protection for the user- thus Ted is still alive even though he blew up multiple times.

Claire needed to be saved to help inspire nathan, and to keep sylar from getting regen.

[chrisxs5]

Nuclearkinesis - Nice one! :lol:

[The Ninth Doctor]

Adding kinesis to the name of any superpower automatically makes it 5x cooler.

[chrisxs5]

^:lol:^

[XanthusAZ]

Not every superpower, some don't work-

Superhumanstrengthkinesis
Tecnhnopathykinesis
Invisibilitykinisesis
and, of course, Telekinesiskinesis.

[The Ninth Doctor]

ok, you have a point.
And -pathy can be substituted for -kinesis in some instances while maintaining the coolness factor.

Invisibilty could be lumenkinesis.
Technopathy uses the aforementioned substitution
And Telekinesis already has a kinesis in it.


Can anyone come up with a -kinesis or -pathy for superstrength?

[chrisxs5]

How about: ImasostrongIcankickyourkinesis ?

[The Ninth Doctor]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
How about: ImasostrongIcankickyourkinesis ? :rotfl: :rotfl:


Very nice. Any other entries?

[XanthusAZ]

Nope, I'm good.






Wait, what were we talking about again?

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by XanthusAZ
Nope, I'm good.






Wait, what were we talking about again?
I dont remember anymore! :rotfl:

[The Ninth Doctor]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
I dont remember anymore! :rotfl:

Talking about...talking about.... hmmmm.....

*The Doctor looks around*

*The Doctor glances up*

OH!


That Peter may technically not survive the explosion, was the topic before we derailed it.

[Xanderman]

I'm sure others have brought this up already, but clearly Peter can survive the explosion because he survived it in the alternate timeline.

He himself is immune to anything his body can cook up. He could dance on the Sun if he wanted to.:cool: :lol:

[The Ninth Doctor]

That's an interesting idea. Are Peter Sylar and Ted immune to ALL radiation? Or just the stuff they emit? If they tried to attack each other, would it have any effect? If they were thrown into a massive nuclear generation, or in the eexample above, on the sun, would they still be able to survive? Since their explosions most definately generate massive amounts of heat, are they also immune to extreme temp? Could they automatically survive an assualt from Meredith?

So many questions....

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
That's an interesting idea. Are Peter Sylar and Ted immune to ALL radiation? Or just the stuff they emit? If they tried to attack each other, would it have any effect? If they were thrown into a massive nuclear generation, or in the eexample above, on the sun, would they still be able to survive? Since their explosions most definately generate massive amounts of heat, are they also immune to extreme temp? Could they automatically survive an assualt from Meredith?

So many questions.... I assume they're immune to all forms of radiation, and since radiation generates heat, possibly heat as well? By the way, lol about "surviving an assault from Meredith", I like that.:lol:

[The Ninth Doctor]

A question about Peter: when he first used Claire's power while not near her, he needed to activate it like any other absorbed power. Claire does not need to do this, and neither does Peter the next time he uses it (when he dies). The question is: for powers that are either always on and/or powers that have an always on side effect, does Peter (and I suppose Sylar too) need to activate them?

Would Peter or Sylar need to activate nucleokinesis in order to survive a radiation assault, or would they auto survive?

[timbojill]

in five years gone he survives the bomb.

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
A question about Peter: when he first used Claire's power while not near her, he needed to activate it like any other absorbed power. Claire does not need to do this, and neither does Peter the next time he uses it (when he dies). The question is: for powers that are either always on and/or powers that have an always on side effect, does Peter (and I suppose Sylar too) need to activate them?

Would Peter or Sylar need to activate nucleokinesis in order to survive a radiation assault, or would they auto survive? I think they would auto-survive. I think Peter was wrong when he said he needed to think about the person to use their power. He could never come back from the dead if this was truly the case, and we've already seen he has.

[The Ninth Doctor]

I too am beginning to think that they would auto-survive, because in the original timeline Peter survived Sylar exploding, and in FYG Sylar survived Peter exploding.

I'm also thinking that as powers go, that there are two types: concious activated, and always-on, and that activate powers have an always on side-effect. Claire's would be an always on power (perhaps the activation of the power is what caused the addled Peter to think about her, not the other way around) and nucleokinesis would be an activated one, with some always on benefits (resistance to radiation, resistance to heat, etc)

Now it seems that while Peter, due to his resurection, keeps the always on powers all the time, Sylar instead still has to activate an always on power- for he can turn off Dale's super-hearing, which for her was always on.


Crazy theories and speculation. That is why this show is great.

[TKFlash]

Originally posted by fzbandit
I see what you're getting at, but that wasn't really an explosion. Ted was kind of just glowing really bright with radiation. He would have exploded if Claire hadn't saved the day. But I do agree with the theory that peter didn't die because he gave off the explosion. However, from the story line of the show, it was made to seem that if Ted or Sylar would have exploded that they would have died. Because they consistently said that Peter could survive because he could regenerate. So there must be some problems for those who can't regenerate. Ted or Sylar would have either exploded or died from the radiation apparently. Who knows??:( I think they all have a natural immunity to radiation because of the nature of the power, but I guess thier is an upper limit to what the body can handle. Example: the Human Torch has a natural immunity to fire and heat because the nature of his powers. anything cooler than 1,000,000 degrees cannot burn him, but anything hotter can hurt him. Thus the radiation poisoning wouldn't kill them because of their natural immunity to it but the force of a bomb would kill them cause its more than their physical body can take. I didn't say they would die in the explosion but if they did, I think that would be the reason why. I don't think they would die from the explosion though. correct me if I'm wrong about that assumption.

[The Ninth Doctor]

Ted has exploded though, in the webcomic once, and on the show once besides Company Man- when he first escaped from the fbi.

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
I too am beginning to think that they would auto-survive, because in the original timeline Peter survived Sylar exploding, and in FYG Sylar survived Peter exploding.Wait, what do you mean by "in the original timeline Peter survived Sylar exploding"? When did Sylar explode?

I'm also thinking that as powers go, that there are two types: concious activated, and always-on, and that activate powers have an always on side-effect. Claire's would be an always on power (perhaps the activation of the power is what caused the addled Peter to think about her, not the other way around) and nucleokinesis would be an activated one, with some always on benefits (resistance to radiation, resistance to heat, etc)
All makes sense to me.

Now it seems that while Peter, due to his resurection, keeps the always on powers all the time, Sylar instead still has to activate an always on power- for he can turn off Dale's super-hearing, which for her was always on.
Sylar can turn off the super hearing? When did he demonstrate this? I thought he had just gotten a better grip on tolerating it or something, the way Superman does.

Crazy theories and speculation. That is why this show is great.
Great writing, great stories, great characters, great acting, great everything.:cool:

[XanthusAZ]

In the original timeline, Hiro stabbed Sylar, but he had already killed Claire and taken her power, so he survived and then he exploded. Five years later, Hiro went back in time and his machinations caused the FYG timeline. Finally, the current timeline was caused by Hiro's jump into the FYG timeline and subsequent jump back.

And that's a good point, SYlar may just be able to control the superhearing better than Dale did, and he can't turn it on or off. However, that is one of those things that we'll never find out, because, I mean, how could we?

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by XanthusAZ
In the original timeline, Hiro stabbed Sylar, but he had already killed Claire and taken her power, so he survived and then he exploded. Five years later, Hiro went back in time and his machinations caused the FYG timeline. Finally, the current timeline was caused by Hiro's jump into the FYG timeline and subsequent jump back.I didn't know about that first timeline...did Future Hiro talk about it in FYG or something?

[TKFlash]

Originally posted by XanthusAZ
In the original timeline, Hiro stabbed Sylar, but he had already killed Claire and taken her power, so he survived and then he exploded. Five years later, Hiro went back in time and his machinations caused the FYG timeline. Finally, the current timeline was caused by Hiro's jump into the FYG timeline and subsequent jump back.

And that's a good point, SYlar may just be able to control the superhearing better than Dale did, and he can't turn it on or off. However, that is one of those things that we'll never find out, because, I mean, how could we? Thats only because she never got a chance to control it better. Sylar has the advantage of being smarter and having more experience with control because he has other abilities.

[chrisxs5]

Sylar seems to also be able to switch his powers off and on as he choses as well.