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beast
05-21-2007, 10:21 PM
Since Bennet woke Peter up, he didn't physically teleport or time travel. It was more like temporal, astral projection.
This was similar to Suresh dreaming of the Indian boy who motivated him and helped find the key. Yet, when Suresh did it, the boy wasn't always there.
Maybe this was Suresh's power after all, since he projected to witness his and his father's past. Then again, the writer's said he had no powers. And, different people can have the same power.
The kickers were not only that Deveaux could see him but that if Peter was physically or spiritually present then he gave himself his powers before it all started. Rewatch the episode and listen for the ding when past, nurse Peter senses present day Peter during the conversation with Simone.
Also, Peter had Sylar's intuitive aptitude and idiotic :) memory. He should have just known how to use whatever powers he knew he had.
It was lame that the effects budget was too low to have him do more the go invisible and use telekenesis, the 2 cheapest effects to create in speacial effects history.
Sharingan
05-21-2007, 11:22 PM
I was just thinking the same thing!
Seems like Peter's original power was the ability to mimic others powers.
Deveaux was at least one of the first to have his powers absorbed by peter. Perhaps that is where Peter gets his empathic abilities from.
DiscoDyslexic
05-21-2007, 11:34 PM
The kid's Name is Sanjog Iyer, the way I see it his powers traverse the globe. I said this a long time ago somewhere else. Sanjogs' power is the kind that could connect to someone without him ever really being there. Which always made me think that Peter could get this power without coming into contact with Sanjog in his Physical form. It sure seems like Peter was using Sanjogs power.
and Sanjog was always there with Mohinder, he was guiding him, he doesn't need to acctually be standing next to him.
CptnCardboard
05-22-2007, 01:52 AM
Not that this has anything to do with anything, but was I the only one whose mind immediately went to Ruby Slippers and Glinda the Good when Charles said that?
MidgardDragon
05-22-2007, 02:34 AM
I don't think Peter obtained his powers at that point. I believe Peter was astrally projecting, but not physically there, and I think Peter needs to be physically near the person to obtain their powers.
Deveaux was explaining to Peter why he is the one with the power to stop Sylar: because he is full of love and compassion. Peter's kind heart is what gave him the true power over evil. This makes the most sense to me because it ties into the conversation Devaux was having with Mrs. Petrelli before that, where he told her that Peter should be the one because of his heart, and that the nation needs heart, not strength, to deal with the coming crisis.
STFanatic
05-22-2007, 10:50 AM
The problem with it all was, Peter didn't stop Sylar, Hiro did.
Peter just slowed him and distracted him somewhat before Hiro skewered him.
muaddib
05-22-2007, 11:33 AM
is it me or do you think peter should have been able to absorb sylar's powers too?
KryptonzGirl
05-22-2007, 11:38 AM
I do believe Peter can and has absorbed Sylar's powers. He has telekenesis right? He only got that after being around sylar or no? *thinks*
STFanatic
05-22-2007, 11:38 AM
I think he did, he just don't know what they are and how to use them as Sylar did.
Sylar's original power was to understand how things work.
MidgardDragon
05-22-2007, 06:39 PM
That's the weird thing about Peter absorbing Sylar's powers. He has all of his super-powers, but he doesn't instantly know how they work and how to use them like Sylar does. You'd think he would get that too. It's possible that Sylar's power to know how things work is actually just a natural aptitude, though, and thus Pete would never "absorb" it like he does superpowers.
angeloo
05-22-2007, 09:18 PM
sylar knows how to use all of his powers because he observes the people before he kills them, peter doesnt even know he has some of the powers he might have, since he just picks them up
MidgardDragon
05-22-2007, 09:40 PM
Sylar knows how to use the powers because he knows how they work. That's his "ability", knowing how things work.
Originally posted by angeloo
sylar knows how to use all of his powers because he observes the people before he kills them, peter doesnt even know he has some of the powers he might have, since he just picks them up
Right, Peter only uses the power if he knows he has it, unless it is something passive (like Matt's power, or Claire's, for example). If it's something active like Claude's or Nathan's, he has to focus on it to make it work. If he doesn't know DL can phase, he would never try to do so, etc.
chrisxs5
05-23-2007, 06:31 PM
Astral projection sounds like a good thoery. Obviously Deveuax has a power and that could very much be it! He told Peter he was there becuse he needed to be. Charles seemed to know exactly what was going on at that moment. When he said Invisibility, I was thought that would be a good one to have, surely meant he had full knowledge of it all!
heymon
05-24-2007, 05:08 PM
Well, first off, I think Charles meant his "heart's ability to love unconditionally" when he said that he had the power all along.
Also, I don't think Peter got his clairvoyance from Charles...I think that he's a dream manipulator/spirit guide, like Sanjog. He knew about the bomb, and maybe his job was to conciously give Peter his flying dreams? Think about it...If he had never dreamt he could fly, Peter would have never discovered his powers, and probably wouldn't have exploded.
Sharkie
05-25-2007, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by heymon
Well, first off, I think Charles meant his "heart's ability to love unconditionally" when he said that he had the power all along. Which is a part of his power. Pete is an empath. Part of being an empath is love.
Lothahnus
05-25-2007, 12:48 PM
Peter has the know how things work power too. He just has not realized it yet.
Originally posted by Lothahnus
Peter has the know how things work power too. He just has not realized it yet.
Yes, but he typically has to see the power being used in order to know he has it. Since he really can't see/understand how Sylar used it, I don't know that he'll ever be able to tap into it. Also, it might be the Sylar had to see the brain to understand it and take the power. I don't think Peter would do that.
STFanatic
05-29-2007, 09:44 AM
I wonder if he had a portable "Catscan" machine would that help?
"Hey, I want to use your power well, mind if I scan your head with this?"
chrisxs5
05-29-2007, 09:48 AM
The need to give him the power to see what other peoples powers are.
STFanatic
05-29-2007, 09:53 AM
I am still afraid they are going to "over power" Peter.
He was cocky enough in the future, think what he would be like if he could 100% control every power he came in contact with.
Power corrupts and all that.
chrisxs5
05-29-2007, 01:23 PM
I am still preaching the reset button!
STFanatic
05-29-2007, 01:30 PM
It would be interestin' if both Pete & Sylar had to start over.
chrisxs5
05-29-2007, 01:36 PM
Thats exactly what I have been preaching. They were both left in very great places for it!
STFanatic
05-29-2007, 01:41 PM
All of Pete's powers could have been purged in the "Boom", Sylar would be a little harder since he was stabbed through the chest area and not the brain, a head trauma may have caused him to lose powers, so him being "extra" powerless would be a tougher writing hurdle to jump.
Redhouse
05-29-2007, 04:07 PM
Once again, having them reset and watching them try to regain powers for season 2 would be just as boring and just as anti-climatic as Nathan returning to become President. If Kring knows what he's doing, theres no chance of this happening.
STFanatic
05-29-2007, 04:09 PM
I agree it would not be as effective as it originally progressed in the first season.
I actually hope they use other or new characters as the lead story, and keep the original characters in the secondary stories.
angeloo
05-29-2007, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Redhouse
Once again, having them reset and watching them try to regain powers for season 2 would be just as boring and just as anti-climatic as Nathan returning to become President. If Kring knows what he's doing, theres no chance of this happening.
i actually think they can make very interesting storylines if peter or sylar reset
Redhouse
05-29-2007, 10:33 PM
My argument: did you have fun watching Hiro chase down a sword that helped in no way what so ever, only to stop mid-way through his useless chase to help out Hope the Hooker steal poker chips from some random Gaming Commission agent? If you answered yes, then please feel free to slap yourself.
:p
STFanatic
05-29-2007, 10:55 PM
I enjoyed it.
Hiro and Ando are the comic relief that is sorely needed in a dramatic series.
If all the series consisted of was people with frowns and chasing Sylar, or whining that he can fly but no one believes him, "I want to be normal", "who is that looking back at me in the mirror?" then it would get too darn depressing.
Hiro (IMO) represents the comic geek that hides deep within us all (we are on a comicbook related character website after all).
Parkman (Again IMO) represents the "everyman", one who really wants to get ahead, to be one of the guys, to be important and stand out in the crowd, but at the same time be a hero not only to the public, but to his family.
So all in all, we need some comic relief, we need fun to be included in the drama.
That is one of the things that is lacking in Smallville, it has been rather depressing over the last two seasons.
We need pete to jump up and down pumping his fist in the air while yelling "Woo-Hoo!!REMY ZERO!!"
chrisxs5
05-30-2007, 08:27 AM
"Somebody Saaaavvvveee Meeeee"
OK after seeing your thoughts on the reset you do kind've make since. But I think we all have to be in agreement that Sylar and Peter are becoming way to powerful. So maybe not in season 2 but in season 3 that would be a good idea. Even if they did do it season 2, if they did it with the writing we saw this seson they could pull it off very nicely.
Oh and that whole poker chip stealing scene was the most boring part of the entire series!;)
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