Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of "How To Stop An Exploding Man"? [Archive]

Ginx

05-21-2007, 08:26 PM

Ok - to me that was perfect 10. They tied up almost every loose end and they used almost every character in the finale.

It was brilliant to me the way it all ended. Sylar was just a badazz and like any true villian, he'll be back to spoil another day.

The whole family moments between the various characters really got to me in a good way. Heroes really pushes that family is important and that they are the only one's you're going to get so love and cherish them while you can. It's got a good overall message imo.

I did want more of a fire/ice crazy showdown between Peter and Sylar but I had a gut feeling all along that it wasn't going to go down like that. That in the end it was going to be a group effort to take him down and it was. I was happy and sad by this but in the end - I think that the fact that they worked together will help them next season.

I do wonder when Peter resurfaces if he'll still have all the powers he absorbed already or if he'll be like a clean slate. Be interesting to see.

In the end - HRG played a major role. He really came into his own and made that character into one of my fav characters on the show. Hiro came through with flying colors too.

Nathan's saving Peter directly ties to Peter saving Claire to begin with. Since Peter saved Claire and brought her into their lives Nathan had a change of heart to save the ones he loved - if Peter hadn't of saved Claire then the other events would not have happened to make Nathan have a change of heart and thus save the world.

Really looking forward to the commentary and looking forward to next season.

c1n1st3r

05-21-2007, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by superhippie2000
and that mystery person who can see molly when she is tracking him. perhaps he will be the villian for next season.

Molly's talking about Sylar

Ginx

05-21-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by c1n1st3r
Molly's talking about Sylar

Nope - she was talking about 'someone worse than Sylar' she said it in the episode.

Whoever it is will be bad news. I can't wait.

Rosa76

05-21-2007, 08:40 PM

I gave it a10 ! can't wait till next season !:)

squall7

05-21-2007, 08:44 PM

I was dissappointed to say the least.

It wasnt an awful episode...just a bad finale. The way they wrapped up the explosion and the Sylar/Peter fight. Why couldnt Peter control the explosion and Sylar could? Peter has Sylars ability to know how powers work. Also, with all those abilities, I expected more then a fist fight.

I felt cheated not knowing how Simone's daddy was able to talk to Peter in the dream. Im going to assume it was a power of his. And i KNOW that Peters mom and Hiro's dad have a power. That better be explained in the second season.

I liked how everyone got together in the end...but I think they focused more on that then they did wrapping up a single story line that they have been hyping up for the whole season. Im glad Nathan did what he did.

I liked the episode...but I didnt like the end result...considering that this tv show had 23 episodes to develop and plot and an ending to it...they should of spent more time on the ending instead of just setting up for it.

I know im gonna get flamed like crazy for this...and I will watch next season because Im curious where they are going with Hiro's story. I just hope Sylar has more to bring next season. And Im excited to see who this guy who is "much much worse then the boogeyman" is.

For a finale it gets a 6/10. It would of been higher if I wasnt judging it on finale standards. But in the end, Smallvilles finale hyped me up much more for their next season.

chrisxs5

05-21-2007, 08:55 PM

They cant give you all the answers! But we do know Bennets name! The best show to date! The best series ever!

trying2b

05-21-2007, 09:02 PM

I thought it was good, but I thought the SV season ender was better. I did give it a 9 because I really love the show, but I did want to see some bad ass F/x between Peter and Syler and it didn't happen.

I'm glad Nathan came thru but I doubt that he survived the explosion. I know Peter could survive and hope that he will be back.

mctor

05-21-2007, 09:10 PM

very disapointing, episode was to slow..uneventfull(seriously that was the big confrontation between peter and sylar that we have been waiting for all season) i know they just wanted to wrap up chapter 1 buf i was expecting something huge and i really thought they would deliver, sadly i dont think they did

gameface25

05-21-2007, 09:10 PM

Gave it a 7.

Parkman thinking he could solo Sylar was retarded.

The final fight with Peter and Sylar was anti-climatic considering how much they had been building it up. Did they run out of budget? :P

And the Nathan Flying him out was semi-predictable

I guess at least they set up future season with the worse bad guy than Sylar

Chlarkerlover

05-21-2007, 09:12 PM

ok, firt HIS NAME!!!!!! WOOOO!!!! NOAH!!! YESSSS!!!

second; Hiro in the past? &@#&! :rotfl:

third: Nathan. :( That was so sweet of him. When he came up to Claire and told her there was another way, I thought he meant letting Peter go off. It took me five seconds before he did it to realize what he was going to do. I got so sad! I even *flush* cried a bit as he died. I wimpered and said my most remeberal line about this show "Nathan no birran." *SNIFF* Rock In Peace man. Er, fly.

Superman's Princess

05-21-2007, 10:19 PM

It was awesome! I loved every second of it. Definitely a 10!!!

Jaded Wolf

05-21-2007, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by c1n1st3r
im really dissapointed the bomb scene was 4 minutes long there wasn't much of a fight we didnt see candice's rreal look etc :(

How do you know we didn't get to see her real look? She got knocked out and reverted back to her form which is the one we have seen her in when she is not in some other form. I think that would be her true form.

Awesome episode all around. I gave it a 10! One of the best season finale for an episode I have seen in a long time since the season finale to Quantum Leap when Sam and Al switched places. I can't wait for season 2 and see what becomes of Hiro in feudal Japan. The only thing I didn't like was Nathan and Peter's sacrifice. That sucks! I hope we haven't seen the last of them. Here's to the summer and the long wait.

trying2b

05-21-2007, 11:14 PM

You know we will see Peter but Nathan I'm not so sure of.

squall7

05-21-2007, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Jaded Wolf
How do you know we didn't get to see her real look? She got knocked out and reverted back to her form which is the one we have seen her in when she is not in some other form. I think that would be her true form.

Awesome episode all around. I gave it a 10! One of the best season finale for an episode I have seen in a long time since the season finale to Quantum Leap when Sam and Al switched places. I can't wait for season 2 and see what becomes of Hiro in feudal Japan. The only thing I didn't like was Nathan and Peter's sacrifice. That sucks! I hope we haven't seen the last of them. Here's to the summer and the long wait.

Apparently its her real form according to the finale. But in the episode before it little Micah said something to her...like "My cousin eats like you, but he's huge"

She replies with "So am I"

And when they went to the voting precinct she made a statement along the lines of "How do you know this isnt my true form?"

That second statment could be taken as sarcasm, but I am convinced that she is always disguising herself to make her look like that hottie. Which makes why she turned back to her regular self when she was knocked out a plot hole in my book.

MidgardDragon

05-21-2007, 11:48 PM

I have to admit, I was disappointed as a whole. My expectations were extremely high, but past episodes had made them that way, and the finale should AT LEAST be as good as the other mid-season episodes. This was still a good episode, it just wasn't FINALE good. I gave it a 7.5/10 for the episode itself, with the teaser for generations raising it to 8/10.

I think they should've had the two hour finale instead of splitting the two episodes up to extend the season. If this episode had everything that Landslide had had, it would've been a 10/10.

And yeah, the Hiro vs. Sylar and Peter vs. Sylar thing was pimped throughout the last half of the season. They should have at least had them do some nice FX fighting. I am usually all for plot over action but they built up the fight too much to just let it fizzle out like that. Here's hoping Origins and Generations make up for the finale.

Oh, and who else thought that finding out HRG's name was the most exciting part of the whole episode? :lol:

Did they run out of budget? :P

Y'know, I actually think this is a huge possibility. Heroes has not been shy about using effects like mad, but even shows on NBC have limited budgets. It's very possible they used up the FX budget in episodes like Five Years Gone and thus made the finale anti-climactic due to lack of funds.

But in the end, Smallvilles finale hyped me up much more for their next season.

I hate to allow the "Smallville vs. Heroes" debate to come to any more fruition, but I absolutely agree with this. I expected the Heroes finale to be at least as good, if not better, than the Smallville finale, and it just didn't bring the goods.

ETA: ETA: discovered that this episode definitely improves with a second viewing. Once you know not to expect a knock-down drag-out then the emotional resonance of the episode really comes into focus. And I love that taking down Sylar turned out to be a team effort now that I think about it. Maybe these guys really will be somewhat of a "team" in the future. No costumes or jets or "schools for the gifted" sure, but a team nonetheless.

MidgardDragon

05-22-2007, 02:12 AM

Delete please

svfan50

05-22-2007, 05:37 AM

I think it was a good episode.....!!! Episode-wise I would give it 9/10....but I would agree to the fact that considering it was Season 1 Finale....I was expecting a lott more of action than was shown in the show(Nikki and Candice fight...it just took one blowww??? Sylar and Peter......a couple of punches....ehhh?? what happened to something like both becoming nuclear??? Parkman, knowingly going to get rid of Sylar...did his minds blow off before his heart did??? , and finalllyyy................Nathan taking Peter and flying away....?? WHATTT??? I mean..wasn't Peter exploding with nucleur?? Wasn't it said that no normal person could come near him and it was only Claire??) and finally the flight...it wasn't bad....but it wasn't kool the way we expected!!! It could have been great....!!!

But there were a couple of things which were good also..

1. Molly and Micah were good together...two children looked cute when Micah started the elevator.

2. HRG helping Peter

3. Claire trusting HRG and leaving Nathan and his mom!

4. Sylar!

5. The teaser for next season at the end of the show!

*********
I really hate to admit as this was one of the best shows without any flaws and always stood up to the expectations, but Smallville had a much better Season finale than this!!

Absolute Kingdom

05-22-2007, 06:06 AM

I was utterly disappointed by the final episode. I don't feel like ranting about it, so I'll just give it 5/10.

STFanatic

05-22-2007, 06:10 AM

I was blown away, I watched it again right away and saw many subtle things I had missed the first time.

I wish Hiro had got to see that "the Frying man" was not "virran" after all, but him ending up in the past to live out his childhood bedtime stories was a great touch.

It seemed to me that Jessica & Nikki merged, DL & Nikki now have a sister for Micah.
Mama Petrelli is gonna be PO'ed!

Yeah, I wanted to see Peter land and regenerate, or is he now hanging onto the outside of the space station :lol:

All in all, sure the battle could have lasted longer, but what they gave use was AWESOME, I yelled "YEAH GO HIRO!" when he popped in and skewered Sylar.
And I am glad Sylar slithered off at the end.

No doubt in my mind it was a 10.

svfan50

05-22-2007, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by STFanatic
DL & Nikki now have a sister for Micah.
.

heheeee:lol: ......dont close options for Little Micah...!!!! he is little.....not stupid!!!! ;) :p

:lol: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

theQuestion

05-22-2007, 07:25 AM

I thought the ep rocked! Loved the way they gave us the teaser of the beginning of next season. Hiro in Feudal Japan! Claire back with HRG! Sylar not as dead as the Heroes had hoped! I don't know about everyone else, but I can't wait for next season.

And, BTW, I personnally don't think we've seen the last of Peter Petrelli.

Jaded Wolf

05-22-2007, 09:55 AM

This was a good season finale for the first season and another start for the next volume. It was definetely good after seeing the disappointing "Smallville" season finale. I think it is the sixth season curse. Buffy had it and Smallville had theirs. Anyways, it could have used more action but I like how all the ties came together and then expanded into something more. They even slid in the "there's something bigger than Sylar" thing. You see Smallville writers, this is how you tie up multiple ends in one episode and then use them to create more for next season.

CallMeClark

05-22-2007, 09:56 AM

I still don't think anything has compared to "Homecoming" or "Company Man." I found it just okay... When are we going to get some serious combat?

ForgottenShadow

05-22-2007, 10:03 AM

8/10 From me. I swear, if we don't get to see Peter and Sylar go at it PORPERLY...I'ma cry.

Zeth Duuron

05-22-2007, 10:25 AM

I'm kinda with Jaded Wolf on this one. I guess I like wrapped-up endings. Everybody finally came together, although Nikki's participation was a little odd -- as far as I knew, she only knew Nathan, and wouldn't know that Peter needed help against Sylar. Other than that, I'm good. I think the Smallville finale left me a little flat. Kinda like we'd already been there, done that, at the Season Three finale...

loistickyfingerz

05-22-2007, 11:23 AM

I thought it was good, but after all the build-up about the bomb in NY I thought the solution was a bit tame.

Why couldn't Peter just fly himself up to the sky? Was the nuclear power blocking his other powers? I assume that, but I felt it would have been better if that was the case for it to be clairified just a bit.

One of my favorite things in this whole series is Peter vs. Sylar, and while their "fight" wasn't all that, I hope that Sylar stays on for the whole series and the series finale is the biggest and baddest Peter-Sylar stand-off ever! Sylar rocks and w/out him the show wouldn't be nearly as interesting.

All the other stuff was great. Hiro, Clarie, the kids, even Nikki/Jessica who I hate was ok. And the tease for next season, the one who can see Molly, whoa, that was too good!

I love this show. I had to tape it because I had a performance, and no less than 7 people from the show came over to my place afterward because they couldn't wait to see it! I knew I would like a show about heroes, but I'm so lucky that other people do as well.

superman2001

05-22-2007, 11:46 AM

I thought The Episode, was Excellent, I really did Enjoy it, My Favorite Scene in The Episode,is when Peter and Slyar , are Fighting, and Hiro shows up behind him, and stops Him, and I thought it was great to see Nathan, have a change of Heart and decided to help Peter, I can't wait to see The New Season, it is going to be great.

trying2b

05-22-2007, 11:53 AM

OK after furthur reviewing of last nights episode I can appreciate it more. But with anything that is built up as the season finale was and with such high expectations you can feel like anything will fall flat (i.e. last years Superman Returns).

Yes I was a little disappointed but after reviewing ......wow! I love the interaction between Peter and Shaft (a.k.a. Richard Roundtree, Simone's Dad). For some of you to young to remember Simone's Dad played Shaft back in the 70ies.

Some of the post comparing to the season finale of SV, well I wasn't expecting much after last years dissappointing season 5 ender but I thought this years was "old school" SV and I loved it. Way better than last year "thrown together" ender and a little bit better than Heroes.

MackLove

05-22-2007, 12:35 PM

I enjoyed it, SV's finale was WAAAY better though. I knew there would be no bomb and no fight. Sucked, but I didnt have that disappointed feeling at the end.

1 Frying man is a tool. Can we assume he's dead?
2 Peter was a let down. He didn't even use and powers during the fight.
3 Claire is hot. Her storyline wrapped up nicely. Super cool window jump too!
4 Nikki getting powerful is cool. She knocked the crap out of Sylar!
5 Mo is...Mo
6 Parkman is wack. He never knows who's who are whats going on.
7 Micah and Molly sitting in a tree!
8 Will Ando return?

9 Hiro. Umm..He's a hero. So awesome. And I am so glad I set Law and Order to record, otherwise I would have missed that whole past scene.

And for the record, I dont watch LO...

STFanatic

05-22-2007, 12:54 PM

I noticed the episode was 62 minutes long, so I set my recorders to allow for that.

I have watched it again today and once with the commentary (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/commentary.shtml) so that makes it four times.
I still noticed things I didn't see the first time.

I for one can't wait for the DVD.

Superman's Princess

05-22-2007, 01:07 PM

Counting the commentary I've watched it 3 times. Such an awesome episode.

Krypton Angel

05-22-2007, 03:30 PM

The show, characters, finale & Generations being 30 EPIDSODES!!!
This show couldn't be more awesome unless i was in it!
I loved it! and i hope that LOST finale is just as awesome.
Can't wait till next season and the HD DVD box set!

Cyclops1974

05-22-2007, 03:49 PM

Great episode. Not perfect. So a 9 from me.

Cheers for:

- every scene with Hiro. He really is my favorite hero.
- Nathan finally doing the right thing. Just wish he didn't die, Who knows maybe he flew away at the last second. "That's high enough Nathan, just drop me and get out of here!!!"
- I think I know why Peter had difficulties with the nuke power. I think he double absorbed it. Not only from Ted but also from Sylar.
- Trip back to the past was done well. Good to see Simone again.
- Molly and Micah. Wonder if we ever see a "future" episode with the two of them all grown up and having a relation.
- The big tease about the one who is worse than the boogeyman. Who is it? Maybe someone we already know. Maybe a new character? Very cool.
- The Her"O"es logo appearing in the final scene. Nice.

The Booooooo's:

- No big fight? Why not? I wanted a big fight. At least between Peter and Sylar. I wanted to see the two of them getting hit back and forth. But I guess the others helped a bit. Maybe if it was just Peter and Sylar and Peter would've done all the things the others did, than it would've been a nice fight.
- Okay. Uh. Tell me I'm wrong, but didn't Peter also absorbed Isaacs power. Why didn't he use it anymore. Or is Peter like a battery, the longer he's around someone with abilities, the better and longer he can use the abilities. Like charging himself.
- Sylar had a Katana through his guts. How could he have survived that? I know he's tough (survived the fall from the roof at Claire's high school), but I don't think he has healing powers. Has he?
- Why not show just a tiny flash of Peter surviving. Ah, well, I guess that's what they can start next season with.

So all in all it was a great episode. Not perfect as a final, but with the voice over it did have the right feeling.

warcam

05-22-2007, 04:19 PM

After rewatching the episode, particularly part 6, my disappointment remains. It was continuosly implied that there would be this big showdown between Peter and Sylar; that the confrontation in .07% was just a teaser. Welllll, I can't help but feel a little cheated. And while I appreciate the fact that several characters banned together to stop Sylar, I feel in the end Sylar went out like a punk. How is it he can stop several BULLETS being fired at him when he wasn't even looking, but can't stop a man running directly at him, and from a few feet away at that? It was a 4 star build-up with a 2-star ending. Oh well. Yatta.

JCannery82

05-22-2007, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by warcam
And while I appreciate the fact that several characters banned together to stop Sylar, I feel in the end Sylar went out like a punk. How is it he can stop several BULLETS being fired at him when he wasn't even looking, but can't stop a man running directly at him, and from a few feet away at that? It was a 4 star build-up with a 2-star ending. Oh well. Yatta.

Amen, man, but for me, I think that was just the tip of the iceberg of disappointments with this episode. I love the show, and I'll be watching next season for sure, but I think a great show like Heroes should have been held to higher standards by the producers. Here's a few questions I had if anyone wants to throw out ideas:

1. What reasons did Claire have not to shoot Peter? She has the ovaries to jump out of a building, and she knows that Peter will be fine. Pull the trigger Claire-bear.

2. Where are all the people of New York that the Heroes are saving? I don't remember a single extra on the streets of New York. That was a pretty big fireworks display, and the murder of a business exec in a downtown high rise usually raises some eyebrows in the middle of a city.

3. Why can Peter not get himself out of this problem? Fly, throw yourself on the jagged bottom of that parking meter, "teleporto", let Jessica beat ya down, pass out again, keep a little shot of sedative in your pocket, SHOOT YOURSELF (and none of this "the gun would melt" because Nathan would have went up like a match!)

4. How was Hiro able to kill Sylar so easily? Did Sylar have a reason to let Hiro stab him? Maybe he saw some reason in the future to allow himself to be stabbed so he could slink away? I hope so because stopping bullets fired from a gun and then getting run through with a similar sword to the one that you caught in your hand just a few days before seems just a little inconsistent (and none of this "Hiro probably stopped time" because the creators of the show made every other instance of Hiro stopping time ridiculously drawn out and cool)

5. Oh, and how was he allowed to slip away? Everybody was so caught up with Parkman getting loaded onto the solitary response vehicle that showed up at the scene that they didn't notice the most dangerous man in the world painting the street with his torso?

Oh well, that's enough for now, but there's plenty more.....sorry if you guys have answered these already, but I'd like to know thoughts.

Anyway, it was entertaining, but not what I expected for the reasons above and a laundry list of other things. I'll give it a 5, probably a 7 if it were the finale for another show, but I had such high expectations.....hopefully LOST won't disappoint.

warcam

05-22-2007, 06:35 PM

Amen to your amen. And speaking of inconsistencies, in regards to Claire and Peter: Wasn't the idea to have Claire shoot Peter in the BACK of the head? The same spot where the glass struck him? Why was he FACING her and telling her to shoot? And what hair products does Nathan Petrelli use? Man, that guy can fly that fast, land, and not have a hair out of place.

jdg

05-23-2007, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by JCannery82
Amen, man, but for me, I think that was just the tip of the iceberg of disappointments with this episode. I love the show, and I'll be watching next season for sure, but I think a great show like Heroes should have been held to higher standards by the producers. Here's a few questions I had if anyone wants to throw out ideas:

1. What reasons did Claire have not to shoot Peter? She has the ovaries to jump out of a building, and she knows that Peter will be fine. Pull the trigger Claire-bear.

2. Where are all the people of New York that the Heroes are saving? I don't remember a single extra on the streets of New York. That was a pretty big fireworks display, and the murder of a business exec in a downtown high rise usually raises some eyebrows in the middle of a city.

3. Why can Peter not get himself out of this problem? Fly, throw yourself on the jagged bottom of that parking meter, "teleporto", let Jessica beat ya down, pass out again, keep a little shot of sedative in your pocket, SHOOT YOURSELF (and none of this "the gun would melt" because Nathan would have went up like a match!)

4. How was Hiro able to kill Sylar so easily? Did Sylar have a reason to let Hiro stab him? Maybe he saw some reason in the future to allow himself to be stabbed so he could slink away? I hope so because stopping bullets fired from a gun and then getting run through with a similar sword to the one that you caught in your hand just a few days before seems just a little inconsistent (and none of this "Hiro probably stopped time" because the creators of the show made every other instance of Hiro stopping time ridiculously drawn out and cool)

5. Oh, and how was he allowed to slip away? Everybody was so caught up with Parkman getting loaded onto the solitary response vehicle that showed up at the scene that they didn't notice the most dangerous man in the world painting the street with his torso?

Oh well, that's enough for now, but there's plenty more.....sorry if you guys have answered these already, but I'd like to know thoughts.

Anyway, it was entertaining, but not what I expected for the reasons above and a laundry list of other things. I'll give it a 5, probably a 7 if it were the finale for another show, but I had such high expectations.....hopefully LOST won't disappoint.

I'm with you ... I saw a lot of holes in the ending ...

Claire could have just shot peter in the chest ... like when they shot Claire in the episode with Ted Sprague, she went unconscious for a bit before spitting up the bullet. Being knocked unconscious should have shutdown his thermal issues.

Why didn't Peter just fly away himself? Did he forget he can?

How in the world did Sylar get away? Unless the super-boogeyman took him into the sewers. I don't understand how everyone was just standing around and didn't notice his bloody self crawl into a sewer. I did find it interesting though that Sylar's eyes went into that 'Trance Mode' like he was going to paint something -- perhaps that is how he stayed alive?

Parkman took like 5 bullets in the chest, apparently no vest. How is he going to manage to make it?

It'll be interesting to see how makes it and doesn't at the start of next season. I thought the final battles were pretty weak. I especially thought that Nathan having to sacrifice himself for Peter was just nonsense as well. Lame.

Shadow116

05-23-2007, 10:27 AM

I watched the episode it started out interesting but kind of fell short or fell flat on its face.

I mean I felt like I did after watching Spider-Man 3.
I twas decent but nowhere near to what it could have been if done properly.

And it was all so predictable to me for some reason.

Still it gets a 7.5/10 from me.

I'm praying next season will be just as good as S1 but have a better finale.

c1n1st3r

05-23-2007, 11:51 AM

Shadow116, the spider-man comment is exactly how i felt for the show and the movie

DiscoDyslexic

05-23-2007, 07:17 PM

I've seen the episode a few times now (to say the least) on some levels it didn't get to address some of the question I (and a lot of other people) had, but I am aware that this Show works over a course of time, and many questions they have yet to answer are there for a reason. The fact that Bennet's name is Noah could redeem this episode for any low points, or the fact that Sylar got hit with a Parking Meter, shot at by Parkman, and Beat up by Peter. This show was never made to be an "action show" anybody who geared themselves up for a Brawl should know by now that this show is story driven. All in all I thought this episode would need a higher rating than 10, but overall It's everything I would expect from them, and I really believe that they're just getting started.

It's a solid "10", I don't think that just because I expected more should mean that it's not better that the average episode.

STFanatic

05-23-2007, 07:53 PM

Personally I was pleased I didn't really expect more, although I hoped for more.

I have no problem with the episode, *I* could have not done better :D

chrisxs5

05-29-2007, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Shadow116
I watched the episode it started out interesting but kind of fell short or fell flat on its face.

I mean I felt like I did after watching Spider-Man 3.
I twas decent but nowhere near to what it could have been if done properly.

And it was all so predictable to me for some reason.

Still it gets a 7.5/10 from me.

I'm praying next season will be just as good as S1 but have a better finale.
:lol: I have been saying that about S3 for a week now.

But disagree with you on everything else.

The show brought the end of season 1 very nicely. The fight was very cool, shots were fired, tk was used, the darth vadar death grip, people were knocked around by a pole (the irony of a pole dancer using it:lol: ), stabbed, puched and exploded. All of guys are expecting way to much and then disappointing yourselves. This isnt a movie with a movie budget. They cant really give you a fifteen minute fight scene like you are wanting, but they did give us a five minute one that had alot of explosive elements.

STFanatic

05-29-2007, 09:34 AM

I haven't seen Spidey III yet, I ain't jazzed too much about it, but I am really really looking forward to the Fantastic Four movie and of course The Simpsons movie :D

The thing most everyone is agreeing on is that the "Battle of the Titans" that most were hoping for in the Heroes Finale wasn't what they wanted.

Sure there was a possibility that such an awesome knockdown dragout combat would have been there, but I was thinking the TPTB would do a more cerebral finish, which was the way the whole series was written.

chrisxs5

05-29-2007, 09:43 AM

I can agree with that, but on the other hand they ended exactly as they said they would, and as the comics show.

trying2b

05-29-2007, 02:09 PM

Personally I thought the ending was good. A few plothloes like howcome Nathan didn't get burned by Peter?

On to Spidey 3. I thought it was great. Just as good as the 1st 2 and was not a bit disappointed.

winstonwolf06

05-29-2007, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by trying2b
Personally I thought the ending was good. A few plot holes like how come Nathan didn't get burned by Peter?

We don't know if he was or not, he might have been, just not saying "ow" If it's the end of Nathan, he might have wanted to go out without anyone saying "Yeah, I remember his last words, they were 'Ow, this hurts like @#$%!'"
Especially with him being in the public eye and everything like that :)

chrisxs5

05-29-2007, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by winstonwolf06
We don't know if he was or not, he might have been, just not saying "ow" If it's the end of Nathan, he might have wanted to go out without anyone saying "Yeah, I remember his last words, they were 'Ow, this hurts like @#$%!'"
Especially with him being in the public eye and everything like that :)
I know everyone has been calling that a plothole, but I think that is the best explantion for that I have read! Why are we so consumed with finding plotholes any ways?

STFanatic

05-29-2007, 03:57 PM

"Cause we are bored now that there are no new episodes for a looooooooooooong time?

winstonwolf06

05-29-2007, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by STFanatic
"Cause we are bored now that there are no new episodes for a looooooooooooong time?

please don't remind me :(

chrisxs5

05-31-2007, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by STFanatic
"Cause we are bored now that there are no new episodes for a looooooooooooong time?
I just asked question! But you had to torture me with that statement! I see what kind of friend you are now!:eek:

STFanatic

05-31-2007, 08:36 AM

Heh heh, more of a cry of anguish on my part, withdrawals are gonna be tough and this is our support group :D

chrisxs5

05-31-2007, 08:46 AM

I'm here for ya! At least until I get a life. Which doesnt look like its happening anytime soon! :(

STFanatic

05-31-2007, 08:50 AM

I had a life for a while, but I sold it on ebay since I wasn't using it :lol:

chrisxs5

05-31-2007, 09:24 AM

:lol:

newfan

05-31-2007, 12:44 PM

I LOVED IT!! Couldnt have been better in my opinion!
10 + :)

Only thing I dont like is having to wait till September now :(

chrisxs5

05-31-2007, 01:08 PM

I give it a "1"!!!

But thats just becuase I agree with you on the wait! I :( with you!

winstonwolf06

05-31-2007, 08:14 PM

*twitch*
I think I'm going into withdrawals *twitch*

*pulls back from the edge of insanity*

At least the DVD will be out before then :)

trying2b

05-31-2007, 09:40 PM

chrisxs5 that avitar is hilarious. You should go on the thread "Rate the avitar above you". I'm sure you'll get a great response.

chrisxs5

06-01-2007, 09:47 AM

Thanks, every time I put up another one, everyone ask me to put it back up! I am working on another A1 version right now!

STFanatic

06-01-2007, 10:00 AM

I change avatars when something pops into my head, and with only the one braincell, I have to be careful with that :D

clanaalltheway

07-04-2007, 06:02 PM

9 cause a couple of spots could of been better!

the highlander

09-11-2007, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by JCannery82
Amen, man, but for me, I think that was just the tip of the iceberg of disappointments with this episode. I love the show, and I'll be watching next season for sure, but I think a great show like Heroes should have been held to higher standards by the producers. Here's a few questions I had if anyone wants to throw out ideas:

1. What reasons did Claire have not to shoot Peter? She has the ovaries to jump out of a building, and she knows that Peter will be fine. Pull the trigger Claire-bear.

2. Where are all the people of New York that the Heroes are saving? I don't remember a single extra on the streets of New York. That was a pretty big fireworks display, and the murder of a business exec in a downtown high rise usually raises some eyebrows in the middle of a city.

3. Why can Peter not get himself out of this problem? Fly, throw yourself on the jagged bottom of that parking meter, "teleport", let Jessica beat ya down, pass out again, keep a little shot of sedative in your pocket, SHOOT YOURSELF (and none of this "the gun would melt" because Nathan would have went up like a match!)

4. How was Hiro able to kill Sylar so easily? Did Sylar have a reason to let Hiro stab him? Maybe he saw some reason in the future to allow himself to be stabbed so he could slink away? I hope so because stopping bullets fired from a gun and then getting run through with a similar sword to the one that you caught in your hand just a few days before seems just a little inconsistent (and none of this "Hiro probably stopped time" because the creators of the show made every other instance of Hiro stopping time ridiculously drawn out and cool)

5. Oh, and how was he allowed to slip away? Everybody was so caught up with Parkman getting loaded onto the solitary response vehicle that showed up at the scene that they didn't notice the most dangerous man in the world painting the street with his torso?

Oh well, that's enough for now, but there's plenty more.....sorry if you guys have answered these already, but I'd like to know thoughts.

Anyway, it was entertaining, but not what I expected for the reasons above and a laundry list of other things. I'll give it a 5, probably a 7 if it were the finale for another show, but I had such high expectations.....hopefully LOST won't disappoint.

After reading a few of the post.. i guess i'll try to answer a few ... to also answer myself.

1. She is not a murderer... no matter if you know they are ok.. she is just a kid.. Shooting a gun is a pretty big deal... If it were nikky or jessica.. well.. another story... she is 16.

2. Is it that important to the story? From the looks of it.. it looks like they did run out of budget.. hence the lack of special effects and lack of extras and lack of a few of the goodies... just speculation...

3. I liked the double absorbing radiation idea... and peter has had a hard time controlling his powers.. but more to that... I think that peter's problem was that he wasn't easy about it. he was scared.. he knew the outcome through all the foreshadowing there was. He was afraid he was going to kill lots of people.. That stress takes a real TOLL on you, as seen in the episode where he was being "trained", well... he had a hard time letting go. Sylar in that regards accepted his "destiny" if it were to kill all those people then so be it, but then he realizes that he is the real hero, and i think he could have been....

Peter needed his brother.. "I can trust him..." He trusted him to be cool and know what to do... That is why nathan was needed... I understand that now.

4. A few mins earlier... Hiro had managed to get himself and Ando out of Sylar's claw. Sylar was impressed... I am sure sylar didn't expect something that simple after seeing his ability... Sylar was probably expecting him to teleport and/or distraction... It works for me honestly after seeing how Hiro managed to use his powers amazingly against sylar and saving his friend.

5. Everyone was watching the explosion.. not parkman... sylar is powerful and telekinetted out? those sewer covers weigh 100lbs+, a weak man can't lift it...

STFanatic

09-11-2007, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by the highlander
After reading a few of the post.. i guess i'll try to answer a few ... to also answer myself.

5. Everyone was watching the explosion.. not parkman... sylar is powerful and telekinetted out? those sewer covers weigh 100lbs+, a weak man can't lift it...

Manhole covers must be a minimum of 22 in (56 cm) in diameter, but can be as much as 60 in (1.5 m) in diameter. The average cover weighs between 250 and 300 lb (113-136 kg). It is important for sewer manhole covers to be heavy as sewers can produce methane gas that could push lightweight covers out of the way, letting noxious gases up into the street.
However, non traffic manhole covers used in walkways and outdoor foodcourts are sometimes made of lightweight cast aluminimum for easy access to utilities such as undergoround wireing and easy cleanout , these usually weigh depending on size, from 25 lb (11 kg) up to 75 lb (34 kg).

Plus, if he used TK to move it, there is no real way to measure how much he can lift even when weakened.