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Elite
05-16-2007, 06:15 AM
If Lana dies in this episode, Jonathon's death was ultimately in vain.
Discuss...
ClarksGal
05-16-2007, 11:01 AM
I kind of see your point, but personally I am of the opinion that JK didn't have that much longer anyway, what with all his heart problems. They had been setting up his death since the beginning of Season 3.
That doesn't mean that I want her to die, but if she does I don't think that it negates Jonathan's sacrifice. There are no guarantees in life, even if you save someone's life they could still die later. That could ultimately be a second part of Clark's lesson. Nothing good can come from messing with fate. :)
meteor_phreak
05-16-2007, 11:15 AM
i would agree if he died saving her, but it was sort of a balance thing that jonathan had no control over. since he didn't choose to do it, it doesn't negate much to me...JMO though.
Krypton935
05-16-2007, 01:18 PM
I think that ultimitly Jonathon would have to of died in Reckoning or the 2 episodes after it. Lionel would have got to him and threatened Clark and he would have a heart attack. It was more of a matter of Clark losing Lana and his dad or just his dad.
If Lana dies tommorow it will be sad but jonathon's wouldn't be in vain. He died protecting Clark.
RedPhoenix23
05-16-2007, 01:24 PM
Yeah. JK would have died anyways. Him finding Lana smooshed on the side of the road with his son crying over her only POSTPONED his meeting with MB and therefore his death.
Yeah, JK would have died anyways, one way or another.
I'm afraid Lana's death will be fake...i don't know why, a lot of people are saying that...don't know how she would even survive that explosion though...
Kid Collins
05-16-2007, 04:32 PM
Lana's death will be fake and if it isn't then Phantom is my last Smallville ep.
demongene
05-16-2007, 04:32 PM
Did anyone see the screen caps for the ep,doesnt look good for lana getting in her truck.
Kid Collins
05-16-2007, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by demongene
Did anyone see the screen caps for the ep,doesnt look good for lana getting in her truck.
I didn't look good for Chloe either in Covenant when she walked into the house and it exploded a second later.
demongene
05-16-2007, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Kid Collins
I didn't look good for Chloe either in Covenant when she walked into the house and it exploded a second later.
True very true.
bratchild20042002
05-16-2007, 06:35 PM
you never know what will happen.
Kyogre
05-16-2007, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Kid Collins
Lana's death will be fake and if it isn't then Phantom is my last Smallville ep.
same here
WhitneyFordmanFanatic
05-16-2007, 08:15 PM
Personally, I will celebrate if Lana Lang is really, truly dead. I'm tired of the girl always whinning and holding Clark back from his destiny. She's a major reason why Clark hasn't gone to Jor-El to complete his training, because he's too busy pouting over her. Jor-El needs to take control of Lionel and use a phantom zone square to throw her into the Phantom Zone or something. Now that would be awesome.
RedPhoenix23
05-16-2007, 09:17 PM
Aww. Don't blame Lana for Clark being an idiot. Blame her for wanting to skip out on the man she susposudly loved on their WEDDING DAY just because she tricked Clark and Chloe into revealing Clark's powers. That's more then enough reason to want the beyatch dead. :D
SecretzNLyz15
05-16-2007, 09:36 PM
Lana is NOT keeping Clark back. Clark is keeping himself back. Lana wanted Clark to leave it alone after the wedding and CLARK refused to do so. It's his stubborness that keeps him from his training.
WhitneyFordmanFanatic
05-16-2007, 09:41 PM
It's the fact that Lana IS THERE in the first place that is keeping him from his training. I think Jor-El was trying to make a clear statement to Clark when Lana was the person chosen originally in Reckoning to be killed, but Clark whined and cried about it, and so she lived on to keep Clark from his destiny. Yes, Clark is responsible as well, but the fact that she's STILL around is also a major problem. If she were gone, he would accept his destiny. It is because of his feelings for Lana that he remains. Get rid of her, you get rid of the problem.
WELLINGWIFE#2
05-16-2007, 10:01 PM
I'm pretty sure she'll fake her death..She keeps wanting to leave the luthors and get out of Smallville so I think this is a good way of doing that..plus As far as I know she signed a contract to do one more season as far as i know...her and MR..
i also thought that JS's death was something that had to happen, it was destiny ...
Yelrihs
05-16-2007, 10:16 PM
I'm pretty sure her death will be a fake.
I mean, the writers have to find a way to coincide with the original Superman mythology. It could be that we won't see her for a while..you know, to keep the suspense going, but after a few episodes, the show will reveal her again. No worries for the Lana fans.
Lana might die? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo couldn't be true. I don't care anymore if everyone died. As Long as they have episodes about Clark Kent that would be fine. :lol:
Kreukie
05-16-2007, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Jill
don't know how she would even survive that explosion though...
There's going to be an underground tunnel under Lana's SUV, duh! :p
Shadow116
05-17-2007, 05:07 AM
I hate to say this...I really do bu SV Lana can't...die...
wow that was tough.
No matter how much I hate what Al and Miles have done to the great Lana and Clark characters in the SVverse I don't want Lana to really die.
I still want Lionel to die so much but guess no fans/Al and Miles like that idea,I mean I want Lex to become fully evil and begin changing Luthorcorp to Lexcorp :D.
sailfindragon
05-17-2007, 05:44 AM
I don't completely blame lana for holding Clark back. I think he is mostly to blame for letting his emotions hold him back and the fact......he needs to grow a set!
MozartRequiem
05-17-2007, 09:45 AM
I think if Lana dies, then the whole point here is that fate cannot always be avoided. It's something Clark can learn and when he's Superman, he can realize that he couldn't protect everyone, even the ones he loved, from death's untimely blow. He'll have learned that people can't be brought back from the dead whenever he wishes them to be alive. Perhaps Jonathan was meant to die, AND Lana was meant to die as well, but Clark bringing Lana back just prolonged her life for a year, and shortened Jonathan's for a year. See what I'm saying? I think Jonathan would've still died in a year maybe and Lana just would've died sooner. So either way, it's fate (although, personally, I don't want anyone to die because I don't think Superman should be all gloomy and about death; that's Batman).
escout
05-17-2007, 11:43 AM
Perhaps, a better way to say it would be...Gough and Milar...quit changing the MYTHOS!!! The Superboy/Superman story is well established. Lana marries Pete Ross, has a child, whom she names Clark. She becomes a TV Anchorwoman. If you have any doubt...read about it on Wikepedia or better yet review some older comics.
Gough/Milar have done a great disservice to the mythos over and over. I know you will say that this isn't Superman...but it doesn't give them the right to change the time honored story.
Here is a Wikepedia exerpt:
Earth-One Lana Lang
Lana Lang (left) and Clark Kent (right). From New Adventures of Superboy #4 (March 1980). Art by Kurt Schaffenberger.In the original Superboy stories, Lana was the girl who lived next door to the Kent family in Smallville, and was a romantic interest of Superboy. In the Silver Age stories, Lana often behaved like a younger version of Lois, spending much of her time trying to prove that Superboy and Clark Kent were one and the same.
At one point, Lana once rescued an insect-like alien trapped by a fallen tree in Smallville. In gratitude, the alien gave her a "bio-genetic" ring which allowed Lana to gain insect (and insect-like, such as arachnids) characteristics. Lana created a yellow honeybee-like costume and mask, and took the name "Insect Queen," under which identity Lana had several adventures.
Lana also had various adventures with Superboy, and several with the futuristic superhero team the Legion of Super-Heroes. Also appearing in some Silver Age stories was Lana's uncle, Professor Potter, an eccentric inventor who had inadvertently created the first Bizarro.
After Clark and Lana graduated from high school, Lana went to college, and eventually became a television reporter; as an adult, she became a rival to Lois Lane for Superman's romantic affection in various 1960s stories, often appearing in the title Superman's Girlfriend, Lois Lane.
During the 1970s and early 1980s, Lana became an anchorwoman for WGBS-TV's evening news in Metropolis, as a co-anchor to Clark Kent. Her attraction to Superman during this time had also died off, leaving Superman to Lois. Lana later became romantically linked to the alien super-hero Vartox. Eventually, she and Clark Kent became romantically involved in stories prior to the Crisis on Infinite Earths.
SVfan4ever
05-17-2007, 12:55 PM
Jonathan did not die in vain. He died protecting Clark, he wouldn't have wanted it any other way.
smallvillefreak24
05-17-2007, 02:25 PM
good point good point.. if she dies then all our waiting for 6 years for her and clark to get everything out in the open will have been for nothing.. yes she will find out everything but she dies 2 secs later... ahh!!
citizenlen
05-17-2007, 02:51 PM
If Lana dies, all the hate will be geared towards Lois now. Hehe. (sarcasm)
Brizzle
05-17-2007, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by smallvillefreak24
good point good point.. if she dies then all our waiting for 6 years for her and clark to get everything out in the open will have been for nothing.. yes she will find out everything but she dies 2 secs later... ahh!!
Thats what i am saying if she dies then we will never see what we want to see. We will neva know what happens with her knowing his secret. It's lame that she knows then dies an hour later. We went thru it before. And Clark is the one who has held himself back. he is a pussy we all know that.
Kreukie
05-17-2007, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by smallvillefreak24
good point good point.. if she dies then all our waiting for 6 years for her and clark to get everything out in the open will have been for nothing.. yes she will find out everything but she dies 2 secs later... ahh!!
Exactly. :rolleyes: It would be in vain for those who spent all this time watching this series waiting for that moment for it to then end in a distasteful matter!
WhitneyFordmanFanatic
05-17-2007, 03:05 PM
I personally haven't spent the time that I've been a fan of Smallville waiting for Lana to find out about Clark's secret. My time has been spent on something that actually matters like Clark's journey to become Superman and Lex's journey to become the greatest criminal mind of our time. Lana finding out Clark's secret and reacting to it doesn't matter in the scheme of things.
Derrickray
05-17-2007, 03:18 PM
At this point I don't want Lana to die. We've all been waiting six years for her to find out Clark's secret and for her to die as soon as she finds out would feel like a waste of time.
The way Clark's relationships with people change after they find out his secret keeps things interesting. They handled Pete, Lionel, and Chloe knowing his secret pretty well and it would be interesting to see how his relationship with Lana would be like in season 7.
WhitneyFordmanFanatic
05-17-2007, 03:25 PM
We haven't "all been waiting six years for her to find out Clark's secret". I JUST stated that I have more important things from the story to be waiting for. Instead, we just get Clark whinning about not being with Lana. Please, speak for yourself, not EVERYONE.
Derrickray
05-17-2007, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by WhitneyFordmanFanatic
We haven't "all been waiting six years for her to find out Clark's secret". I JUST stated that I have more important things from the story to be waiting for. Instead, we just get Clark whinning about not being with Lana. Please, speak for yourself, not EVERYONE.
A lot of us have been waiting, dude, calm down. Your not the only one who watches the show. I could care less about what you just stated.
WhitneyFordmanFanatic
05-17-2007, 03:42 PM
How about reading what you originally said again, bub. You said "We've all been waiting six years", and that implies EVERYONE has been, when in fact, I haven't. That is one person out of your little statement right there that hasn't, and I doubt I'm the only one that has better things to worry about with Smallville then Lana's little reaction. I was over her finding out about Clark's secret in Season 4. I started to care less about it at that point. It just didn't matter anymore.
Derrickray
05-17-2007, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by WhitneyFordmanFanatic
How about reading what you originally said again, bub. You said "We've all been waiting six years", and that implies EVERYONE has been, when in fact, I haven't. That is one person out of your little statement right there that hasn't, and I doubt I'm the only one that has better things to worry about with Smallville then Lana's little reaction. I was over her finding out about Clark's secret in Season 4. I started to care less about it at that point. It just didn't matter anymore.
You shouldn't take things so literally. Saying "we" doesn't mean I'm speaking for everyone that watches Smallville. I'm speaking for the people, like me, who have been waiting for Lana to find out Clark's secret. "We" doesn't mean "everyone". Understand?
WhitneyFordmanFanatic
05-17-2007, 03:56 PM
I wasn't talking about the word "we". I was refering to the word "all". That is the key word to your statement that I was refering to. Sorry to have confused you there.
ChlarkMe
05-17-2007, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Elite
If Lana dies in this episode, Jonathon's death was ultimately in vain.
Discuss...
Not in vain, inevitable. Jonathans destiny was to die of a heart attack. It was just a question of when.
foreversmallville
05-17-2007, 04:34 PM
You might as well give it up...she's not going to die!!!
WhitneyFordmanFanatic
05-17-2007, 04:49 PM
If Jonathan's destiny was to die of a heart attack, then why is he currently still alive now in the comics after post crisis, and why was he alive during all of Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman as well as The Superman Animated Series? Just because Jonathan died in the Pre-Crisis comics does not mean that it was his destiny to die on Smallville. That's just the direction that the writers chose to go in.
Krypton Angel
05-17-2007, 05:47 PM
Look let me calm some nerves here! Lana (ALMOST) blowing up in the car will be the best rescue Clark has/will ever pull(ed) off. That is what they are setting this up for! You won't see it tonight, you'll think that she might just be dead! But that will be the beauty of the Season 7 Premier. Everyone will think that Lex killed Lana, and many will beieve that she really is dead, ESPECIALLY LEX. but Clark will know that she is alive, b/c he saved her. But he'll let Lex believe that she really is dead to mess with his mind. Then BAM! Lana is Alive & Kickin'
I'm telling you Lana NEVER dies!;)
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