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miks
05-10-2007, 08:39 PM
I was actually expecting a lot more from this episode. The fight scene was completely wack, he beat him way too fast! And the episode in general itself was lacking in the excitement area for me...anyone else feel the same?

Ilovebeinglost
05-10-2007, 08:46 PM
I loved it

Deana
05-10-2007, 08:49 PM
It was exciting, but the fight was a major let down.

What were the writers thinking? That we will be content with the Titan and Clark brawl until the finale?

I wanted action. They didn't even let Lois kick butt this episode.

miks
05-10-2007, 08:50 PM
true, I know lois can really kick some a$$, but she was kinda up against some pretty heavy fellas, the body guards were huge, and of course Wes, well even Clark had trouble with him! So I kind of see why she didn't fight

Deana
05-10-2007, 08:51 PM
^^I did not expect her to win, but the Lois we have been presented with would have still threw a punch or two. lol

freefall
05-10-2007, 08:52 PM
I'll take real character developments over SFX and superpowered fights any day.

miks
05-10-2007, 08:53 PM
that's true, i think she was too focused on saving wes, she looked like she really had something with him, i mean if it was just a fling i don't think she would've tried so hard to bring him back or really look like she was completely hurt over him dying...

Deana
05-10-2007, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by seacrystal
I'll take real character developments over SFX and superpowered fights any day. I am spoiled. I want both. ;)

Doug
05-10-2007, 08:55 PM
I like the way the directors are letting Clark use more of his powers to defeat the bad. He is superman and he does have a ton of powers, not all strength and speed..........The heat vision special effect was the best ever.

Ireallylikethisshow
05-10-2007, 08:57 PM
It wasn't as awesome as "Justice" or... "Zod" but it was a hardy ep. It had Lois in it, and fun Lois-Clark-Martha jokes (maybe 1 or 2)

And, uh, that's something...

freefall
05-10-2007, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Deana
I am spoiled. I want both. ;)

Nothing's wrong with that. :D But this is Smallville, remember? It's REALLY, really hard to get both. Usually it's more about pretty shots, stunning visuals and cinematography or cool SFX, but nothing substantial about character growth.

Like Promise, the only thing that I love about it is the effect of seeing Clark superspeeding away from someone else's perception, and the whole different POV's thing going on in the episode.

Joe Bob
05-10-2007, 09:07 PM
I've been disappointed all year, yet I keep watching. This show makes me want to cut out my eyes with my own hand.

SeaNymph
05-10-2007, 09:08 PM
I liked it. The fight scene at the end was WAY too short. Still, it was pretty good overall.

falcon64z8
05-10-2007, 09:13 PM
Yea I was expecting more of the fight scene, it def went over quickly. It would have been awesome if Clark had called on the Justice team again and speaking of Justice, when are they going to have their own show already?

nothingwithoutchloe
05-10-2007, 09:13 PM
For me at least this episode was amazing compared to last weeks

miks
05-10-2007, 09:15 PM
yeah last weeks was pretty pointless but at the same time it was jimmy's last day for a little while so i guess it's okay for him to be the center of attention, but only that one time!

And I don't know about the justice team, but I would really love to see more of them already! I really loved Justice, esp. the really cheesy last scene where they are all walking away from the bomb going off! Yeah it was cliche, but it was sooo frikkin sweet!! :)

trying2b
05-10-2007, 09:22 PM
I've been a fan since the beginning but they need to get a clue from Heroes and last night's Lost. Now both of those shows are really kicking ass.

CLanaF23
05-10-2007, 09:24 PM
i thought it was good........... sooo

TheRowdy
05-10-2007, 09:25 PM
I can't help but admit that I was slightly disappointed. I haven't seen a good episode since "Freak." :(

Hopefully next week will be a blowout. It better be, its the finale afterall.

miks
05-10-2007, 09:27 PM
I think next week will be great, but it also depends on who is dying or not dying or whatever! And also if Chloe's powers are totally lame or not, but even if they are lame i still think allison will make them look not as lame

alienkinfolk
05-10-2007, 09:30 PM
I thought this ep was blah. Aries did not live up to the hype.

eas
05-10-2007, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Deana
It was exciting, but the fight was a major let down.

What were the writers thinking? That we will be content with the Titan and Clark brawl until the finale?

I wanted action. They didn't even let Lois kick butt this episode.

I loved the episode, but I agree that the action was lacking. This season, though, I've come to expect that. And I was just excited to see heat vision being used (finally!) so I was okay with no huge fight leading up to it.

I was surprised, though, that Lois just threatened to fight the bodyguards, instead of just doing it. Maybe she would have gotten around to it if Wes hadn't shown up.

Overall, though, there was so much character development and great dialogue between all the cast members (and just the fact that they were all there) that I don't care if the fight was short. I'm cool with it.

TheRowdy
05-10-2007, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by miks
I think next week will be great, but it also depends on who is dying or not dying or whatever! And also if Chloe's powers are totally lame or not, but even if they are lame i still think allison will make them look not as lame

I swear if Chloe dies next week, and I mean dies for good, I will turn against Smallville for killing off an awesome character.

nothingwithoutchloe
05-10-2007, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by miks
yeah last weeks was pretty pointless but at the same time it was jimmy's last day for a little while so i guess it's okay for him to be the center of attention, but only that one time!


Sorry to bring up last weeks episode up again, but TPTB did a bad job of giving Jimmy a farewell. It just seemed to me like Lois did a better job of putting the pieces together than Jimmy did.

To bring the current episode up again, I was dissapointed with the lack of fighting in this episode. There needs to be some good Clark fighting scenes next week. I've wanted a Bizarro-Clark fight for the longest time and not something that ends in two minutes, I need a long fight, at least a 1/3 of the episode. Considering everything that needs to be resolved in Phantom I don't see that kind of fight happening so TPTB better give us something else that would be as good

miks
05-10-2007, 09:38 PM
agreed on the jimmy part

And they might give a good fight scene, if lana is the one in the car and really dies (*crosses fingers*) and Clark isn't there to help her, and if chloe and lois are in the middle of there big death stuff and he can't help them then I think it's because he's fighting bizarro-clark

98chase
05-10-2007, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Joe Bob
I've been disappointed all year, yet I keep watching. This show makes me want to cut out my eyes with my own hand.
Have fun.

svtwamedfan05
05-10-2007, 10:31 PM
I liked it.

Daspoo
05-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Yep, pretty much sucked, but exactly what I expected. All the hype everyone created over "the prototype" led to nothing. One guy, one really sorry fight - and he was defeated by heat vision after hearing from Chloe that it took a "mini-nuke" to kill the one the Justice noobs encountered at a 33.1 site. Weak. And what do we have to show for it? A room full of bodies "waiting" for the chemical milkshake to make them future super-soldiers. *yawn*

Sorry for my disgust, but it's so irritating for so much plot development to end as fast as a 1-hour episode. The SV writers/Al are notorious for this...:\

tobificus
05-10-2007, 10:54 PM
I'm more disappointed that this entire season has seemed pretty aimless since Oliver Queen left town. What's the point of year 6? Is this a tribute to Buffy's lackluster season 6?

Poetic Chaos
05-10-2007, 10:56 PM
The horrible Wes/Lois scenes ruined it for me. Plus I kept on waiting for Clark to use his Thermal Vision to spot Wes when he was invisible and it just never happened.

Runestone
05-10-2007, 11:05 PM
Is it just me or was everyone OOC?

-Clark basically killed someone and didn't even care; he showed absolutely no remorse after the fact.
-Lois wasn't acting like her usual agressive self (I'm not talking about the fact that she was upset about Wes' death; anyone would be)... I don't know, there was just something really different.
-Lana - well, judging from Nemesis and Noir, I thought she had changed somewhat and taken more control. It really made me mad how she was like "I'm so sorry Lex, I'll never meddle again!"
-Chloe didn't even seem very interested in Lois' story; she just ran a couple backround checks and stayed out of it. Normally she would have been right there. Her friendship with Clark seemed really strained as well. It has in the last couple episodes; I hope they're not doing this on purpose.

Only Lex, Lionel, and Martha were acting normal, IMO. I don't like when characters act OOC, so I hated this episode.

meggy
05-11-2007, 12:12 AM
^ i actually do think they are doing that on purpose. I also found it strange that Chloe no longer seems passionate about the 33.1/Luthor story....i can imagine a few things are going on...but i'll give tptb the benefit of the doubt and wait for season 7 to see what is up

InLove_with_Chloe
05-11-2007, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by meggy
^ i actually do think they are doing that on purpose. I also found it strange that Chloe no longer seems passionate about the 33.1/Luthor story....i can imagine a few things are going on...but i'll give tptb the benefit of the doubt and wait for season 7 to see what is up
Well, if she was interested in Lois' story then everybody would complain that she's backstabbing her cousin, or people would complain about the Chlo-Lo competition. I think it was better that way.

Still, this season is an OOC fiesta.
Horrible, really.

meggy
05-11-2007, 01:12 AM
yeah...OOC for everyone:\

HotStudsSuccess
05-11-2007, 01:25 AM
I wasn't disappointed in the episode I love it.

Ultron
05-11-2007, 01:40 AM
I was really impressed with much of the show, but I thought the whole episode was leading to a grand fight between Clark and Wes.

And then Clark basically whipped him in about 40 seconds. And actually it was after being punched once. He spots Wes and defeats him in a hot blink of an eye.

Just too quick for my tastes.

ManofSteelftw
05-11-2007, 04:52 AM
i thought it was great, i understand what you guys are saying about the fight being too short but they only have 40 minutes to work with they gotta get their story/ character development across

ash146
05-11-2007, 05:05 AM
not sure about OOC. clark was remorseful. the camera was on him and he had a sorrow type look when he was seeing lois care for a dying wes.

as for lana apologizing, well its the whole "keep your friends close, enemies closer". she needs more out of him what better way of sucking up then to apologize?

clois did seem disinterested but more like neutral. since the episode her mom, she has practically stayed away from all affairs lana-lex. basically letting Clark do his own work.

Joelito
05-11-2007, 07:48 AM
For me it was okay, I mean..is the epi before the final d@m it :)

mcgairman
05-11-2007, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Runestone
Is it just me or was everyone OOC?

-Clark basically killed someone and didn't even care; he showed absolutely no remorse after the fact.
-Lois wasn't acting like her usual agressive self (I'm not talking about the fact that she was upset about Wes' death; anyone would be)... I don't know, there was just something really different.
-Lana - well, judging from Nemesis and Noir, I thought she had changed somewhat and taken more control. It really made me mad how she was like "I'm so sorry Lex, I'll never meddle again!"
-Chloe didn't even seem very interested in Lois' story; she just ran a couple backround checks and stayed out of it. Normally she would have been right there. Her friendship with Clark seemed really strained as well. It has in the last couple episodes; I hope they're not doing this on purpose.

Only Lex, Lionel, and Martha were acting normal, IMO. I don't like when characters act OOC, so I hated this episode.


:( I felt the same. This epi didn't ring true to the story we have so far. It wasn't a good epi in the sense of timing and story development either. The resolution of WES's threat was over TOO Quick!!

:(

kryptonaidxh
05-11-2007, 07:55 AM
:) :rolleyes: Well, it was almost perfect , actually the only thing that suked was Lanaīs prescence and the psychotic obsession of Clark for being his nanny again..:rolleyes: I donīt knoe why she appeared in the episode, she was completely unecessary.
But well the best was Lois, Clark just a little, Chloe, Martha and Lionel very well too:)

jimmyolsenblues
05-11-2007, 07:57 AM
i was disappointed the fight was so short.

98chase
05-11-2007, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by Ultron


And then Clark basically whipped him in about 40 seconds. And actually it was after being punched once. He spots Wes and defeats him in a hot blink of an eye.

Just too quick for my tastes.
Maybe, just MAYBE, TPTB came across the across the acronym "BDA". Big Dumb Alien. Everyone was complaining about how stupid/dumb Clark Kent is. MAYBE TPTB are trying to change that this year. Clark got smart and defeated Zod and Bearon with the crystal. He was pissed off and was looking for a fight (not using his brain), so he faught Titan. He's calmed back down, so now he's using his head again. He defeats Wes Keenan quickly. People flip so much. They want the BDA to smarten up and when he does, they complain that he ended the fight quickly. Sorry people, it's either or.


Also, I don't think Clark was trying to kill Wes. I think he was trying to use his heat vision to disable the force field and was going knock him out/restrain him once the force field was down.

miks
05-11-2007, 09:09 AM
agreed. I dont think he was trying to kill him, but at the same time, clark kent just killed someone, yeah he was trying to kill you, but just a brief 10 second look of sadness and he's fine again, imo the clark kent we all know and love would feel horrible the he actually killed someone, accident or not

The Ship!
05-11-2007, 09:14 AM
It sucked!! The premise was bogus!

I mean how is it that LEx was able to hold and control a ZONER?????????????? Come on that is too much to take right now...

Crap crap crap

jimmyolsenblues
05-11-2007, 09:46 AM
what does OOC mean?
Sorry I am old.

98chase
05-11-2007, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by The Ship!
It sucked!! The premise was bogus!

I mean how is it that LEx was able to hold and control a ZONER?????????????? Come on that is too much to take right now...

Crap crap crap
Um, the prototype was NOT a zoner.

miks
05-11-2007, 12:01 PM
out of character :)

Goobs
05-11-2007, 03:10 PM
terrible. This episode just reminds me again why I should stop watching this show.

thedean123
05-11-2007, 04:30 PM
Didn't love it but anything is better then "Noir"

InLove_with_Chloe
05-11-2007, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Goobs
terrible. This episode just reminds me again why I should stop watching this show.
I agree. This show used to be good, but there is nothing left.

98chase
05-11-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Goobs
terrible. This episode just reminds me again why I should stop watching this show.
Why still "torture" yourself? If you think you should stop watching, then I agree. You should.

Daspoo
05-11-2007, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by 98chase
Um, the prototype was NOT a zoner.

Uhm, part of Titan was in the mix used to make Wes the prototype so, technically, he's part zoner.


Originally posted by The Ship!
It sucked!! The premise was bogus!

I mean how is it that LEx was able to hold and control a ZONER?????????????? Come on that is too much to take right now...

Crap crap crap

I agree that the premise and build-up was just plain crap for what we got.

australian infected
05-11-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by miks
I was actually expecting a lot more from this episode. The fight scene was completely wack, he beat him way too fast! And the episode in general itself was lacking in the excitement area for me...anyone else feel the same?

I have to totally agree...just wasn't what I expected since is the second to last episode of the season.

Derrickray
05-11-2007, 09:00 PM
This episode was pretty bland. Nothing much really happened. There was no hype leading into the finale and thats bad.

This has been one of the more disappointing seasons so far. There is no overall theme to it. Initially, it seemed like it would be about clark trying to find the zoners but it strayed away from there. Then there's the love triangle but that's not interesting enough at this point.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't feel any hype going into the finale.

Nerial
05-11-2007, 09:48 PM
^^No hype for me, either. I think I would have felt something if this "Clark vs. Wes", and "Clark killing Wes", anti-climatic crap-spot had been handled differently.

Honestly, I liked most of the episode, but that one scene just ruined it for me.

This is exactly why I don't get hyped for the episodes, especially ones deemed, "big ones," because they are almost always anti-climatic, and Clark does something questionable. Practically every time. It gets old.

redraven
05-12-2007, 10:21 AM
It was an alright episode; it wasn't exciting and it sure didn't keep me on the edge of my seat while watching it, but it was a big step-up from last week, imo.

Fly by guy
05-12-2007, 06:12 PM
If this eppy was supposed to build momentum for the finale, the "mo" in on a slow ride out of town. Nothing about the story would bring you back next week. It was a good Lois episode, but nothing we haven't seen from everyone before.

niki
05-12-2007, 06:22 PM
See, I thought it was great but then again I thought this was the THIRD last episode, not the second last episode. I still find it a really good episode, but a weak prelude to the finale.

And I've got a few comments:
-- Clark did look remorseful, and he did say "I'm sorry" to Lois at the end and looked like it meant it. I don't think he's beating himself up about it more because Wes pretty much chose to die in the end by refusing any help ... or at least, that's what I think.
-- Lana's really good at switching back and forth. She apologizes for meddling, but I think it's because she wants to continue "protecting" Clark and keeping an eye out on Lex.
-- What is Lionel up to? I got so excited to see him still going with the symbols at the beginning of the episode, then we get a confrontation by Clark, and then towards the end he suggests Martha become senator ... he's quite a tricky character, so I'm hoping they show that more in the finale!
-- Chloe has seemed a bit icy, but then again she does have reason to. Her loverboy just left, Clark's still trying to juice her from what she knows but she knows that Lana's just trying to protect him and she's probably sick of that anyways, and having to deal with both those things means less involvement in trying to help Lois, but I do still think she was doing a good job at it.
-- Lex. Geez. Heartless man. "Bring in some fresh guards, I want to do another test run." He has no value for human life. Those who say Lex's line of "If you betrayed me, I don't know what I'd do" sounded sappy, I didn't. It sounded more like a threat to me. He's fed up with Lana never being in the 'mood', even lighting candles, because he's selfish and wants to get his groove on. Evil evil Lex, hahaaa.
-- We've learned that Project Ares is still continuing, they DID mention that crazy creature zoner so hopefully they'll continue that. But the trailer for the finale looks ... I don't know. All Lex-Lana-Clark-ish ... I really hope the entire thing won't be like that!

But yuppers, I still thought it was a good episode ... it's the finale I'm worried about hah.

kazek
05-13-2007, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by niki
Those who say Lex's line of "If you betrayed me, I don't know what I'd do" sounded sappy, I didn't. It sounded more like a threat to me. He's fed up with Lana never being in the 'mood', even lighting candles, because he's selfish and wants to get his groove on. Evil evil Lex, hahaaa.


So true.... I think Lana will end up betraying him and the consequences will be sour for her..... Lex should slaughter her...


Originally posted by niki
But the trailer for the finale looks ... I don't know. All Lex-Lana-Clark-ish ... I really hope the entire thing won't be like that!



I sure hope the whole Lex-Lana-Clark saga comes to an end..... Since Lex and Clark are indispensable... Lana should die...

fifagal
05-13-2007, 09:09 PM
I LOOOOVED IT!!!!!!

princesslaya
05-13-2007, 09:26 PM
...It was ok......not as good as I thought it would be...these last few episodes have been built up...and for me they really havent lived up to expectation!

kazek
05-13-2007, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by 98chase
Why still "torture" yourself? If you think you should stop watching, then I agree. You should.

Maybe we keep hoping things might change... :\

InLove_with_Chloe
05-13-2007, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by kazek
Maybe we keep hoping things might change... :\
Yes, we keep hopin' and hopin' and hopin'.....
Are we fools?
Well, sometimes AlMiles show us little glimpses of genius. Unfortunately those have become extremely rare. But I guess those are enough to keep me watching....

blackcelebration
05-15-2007, 04:09 AM
This was really really dissapointing.

1st Wes.

Why does a guy who has all the Meteor Freaks abilities & CAN GO INVISIBLE need a knife???

Why did he reveal himself to Lois when he killed The Senetor when it would have been easier (& more logical) to kill him whilst invisible!!!

THIS GUY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A GREAT SOLDIER, well according to General Lane!!!

This was just truely a dumb enemy who was actually DUMBER THAN CLARK!!!!

2nd Clark

OK you have X-RAY VISION & SUPER HEARING so why was Wes being invisible such a big deal...??? Oh sorry you're a BDA!!!!

Also the thing I am disturbed the most is that Clark killed someone AGAIN!!! OK the guy was armed with a knife :rotfl:
But was Wes really capable of harming Clark & why didn't Clark try & reason with him...? Of course Clark is a BDA!!!!

Lastly & maybe even more disturbing is how easily Clark allowed Martha to go to Washington & become Senitor because his Dad would have wanted that...

Do you remember a Pilot episode around Six Years Ago after Clark had saved Lex's life Lex brought Clark a car as a gift but Johnathan said that he should refuse the car because WASN'T SAVING A LIFE ENOUGH REWARD.

Yet six years later we are led to believe that Johnathan would want his wife to accept being Senitor because she knew a very rich & powerful man who also happens to know that Clark is special. That's just ridiculous!!!

This is by far the worst season of Smallville. Yes more worse than Season 4, at least the characters were in character!!!

If Season 7 is anything like this again (God forbid) then I hope that CW do us all a favour & put this now miserable excuse of A YOUNG SUPERMAN SHOW out of its misery before Al Miles & Co make Superman more of an embarrisment!!!

GooN
05-16-2007, 03:58 AM
Well this episode was all about the right things....i just think it wasn't done well enough. The acting was kind of poor and it didn't seem to have a flow to it.

i thought the later half of the season was pretty good actually and have high hopes for the finale

Burtoner
05-16-2007, 07:20 AM
i feel this is the last ever season, its been getting worse and worse and to be honest just crap lately.