Clark was a bit rude....

[AndiGirl]

I know Clark is worried about Lana, which i understand. But it was a cheap shot to throw Chloe's mom back in her face like that. And no, I'm not just saying this cause I love Chloe....I would feel this way if he said those things to anyone. They were uncalled for. He knew he was being rude....but he just cared about helping Lana. Which i said...is admirable, but Clark tends to get blinders on when it comes to Lana, and how he should treat a best friend. In my opinion. Did anyone else think this?

[SecretzNLyz15]

It's just like how Chloe treats Jimmy..lol

[SmallvilleMan]

Personally, from my own experience, when you're really pissed off, anyone's a target and I think Clark was really pissed off. It's one thing not tell a secret, like Clark's, but not to tell what's going with the girl he loves, when her life may be in danger is another. You can tell how much Clark was upset, he looked very out of whack.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Yes! It reminds me of the time he was completely awful and told Chloe that she should try to find her own mother first... in Lineage when she tried to help him (got a little atrusive) and she had to explain to him that her mother didn't want her to find her.

[chlark=destiny]

*SIGHS*. . .There is absolutely NO HOPE for the BDA. . .He was MORE than just rude. . .He was WRONG!!!!!!!. . .As much as I love CHLARK, Chloe deserves Jimmy, because at least, he worships the ground that she walks on. . .Jimmy is MORE of a man than Clark will ever be. . .Well, ya'll know what I mean.

[lilkoolmaria]

Yes, definitely! Clark hasn't been thinking of his best friends' feelings lately. :mad:

[freefall]

Well, in his defense Clark has already told Chloe to stop digging about his biological family even before Lineage. And he did apologize to her later on in the episode.

Him grabbing Chloe at the end of Noir because he's pissed off regarding Lana, and physically hurting Chloe, now that's a real no-no.

[xrayvision]

He was reminding her what Lex is capable of. It's not worse than Chloe assuming Clark as her 1 man army to steal all the serum to keep her mother out of the vegetative state.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Well, in his defense Clark has already told Chloe to stop digging about his biological family even before Lineage. And he did apologize to her later on in the episode.

Him grabbing Chloe at the end of Noir because he's pissed off regarding Lana, and physically hurting Chloe, now that's a real no-no.

Only because he needed her to look up something

[Deana]

Clark is in Clana mode. Nothing is sacred when this mode is activated. Not even friendship, marriage, and or a normal personality.

[AndiGirl]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Get over it. He was reminding her what Lex is capable of. It's not worse than Chloe assuming Clark as her 1 man army to steal all the serum to keep her mother out of the vegetative state.

He wasn't trying to remind her, he was trying to weasle information out of her. I think Clark knows how to play Chloe...or he used to. I was proud that Chloe stood her ground. Clark has some nerve asking her to keep his secret...but as soon as anyone else has one, those rules are supposed to go out the window.I agree with someone who said Clark loses all reasoning when his Lana blinders are on. This episode makes me not want Chlark to happen....which I know someone else said this too! haha. But at least Jimmy treats her right. I think I wouldn't have minded as much if he had said something small trying to get to the truth. But he used her mom....that was just harsh

[aqgalaxy]

Oh I know I dunno it seems like Chlark friendship is a bit distant tonight

[Mischael12]

Clark was a general ******* tonight.

His threatening Lionel

His talking to Chloe

I could tell Tom felt uncomfortable...but he has seemed uncomfortable this whole season.

I really think he likes playing the bad guy. Tom just seems more in control then. Cause in all his best acting roles, he was either, Insane, or just an *******. And those were among the best.

Like when he and Lionel, switched bodies--I loved that episode, or just playing Kal. Heck even Kal-El.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Deana
Clark is in Clana mode. Nothing is sacred when this mode is activated. Not even friendship, marriage, and or a normal personality.

Yeah, Clark was very pro active in this ep.

He rescued Lois, he helped put together with Chloe that Lex was behind the attack on the senator he killed Wes.

This dude accomplished a lot in this ep.

Lana is a great motivator for Clark.
:lol:

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
He wasn't trying to remind her, he was trying to weasle information out of her. I think Clark knows how to play Chloe...or he used to. I was proud that Chloe stood her ground. Clark has some nerve asking her to keep his secret...but as soon as anyone else has one, those rules are supposed to go out the window.I agree with someone who said Clark loses all reasoning when his Lana blinders are on. This episode makes me not want Chlark to happen....which I know someone else said this too! haha. But at least Jimmy treats her right. I think I wouldn't have minded as much if he had said something small trying to get to the truth. But he used her mom....that was just harsh

Chloe also weasels secrets out, but does it from other people. Like how she found out Ollie's secret from Jimmy, when Clark specifically said to let it go. And Chloe wanted Clark to abuse his powers to serve her mother's needs. I don't consider those good intentions either.


Originally posted by Mischael12
Clark was a general ******* tonight.

His threatening Lionel

His talking to Chloe

I could tell Tom felt uncomfortable...but he has seemed uncomfortable this whole season.

I really think he likes playing the bad guy. Tom just seems more in control then. Cause in all his best acting roles, he was either, Insane, or just an *******. And those were among the best.

Like when he and Lionel, switched bodies--I loved that episode, or just playing Kal. Heck even Kal-El.

He had all the right to threaten Lionel, though he has no idea why. Lionel has info on the phantom that he's not giving Clark. I wouldn't be surprised if Lionel brings the phantom to the FOS and controls him there with knowledge of the Kryptonian symbols. He has suspected Lionel of having ill intentions and I'm glad he stood up and was a man about it.

I also think Clark realizes what secrets between very good friends has done and wants to eliminate those secrets. That's why he basically gave away the fact that he has powers to Lana tonight.

[AndiGirl]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Chloe also weasels secrets out, but does it from other people. Like how she found out Ollie's secret from Jimmy, when Clark specifically said to let it go. And Chloe wanted Clark to abuse his powers to serve her mother's needs. I don't consider those good intentions either.

Oh I agree....Chloe has done her fair share of weasling...but she wouldn't throw something like a parent into the mix. It's like Chloe saying "So Clark....why don't you take charge of your destiny already or did your father have to die in vein?" It's just beyond rude. Like I said...I don't mind him trying to figure out the truth...i wouldn't expect any less. It's the way he went about it.

[SmallvilleMan]

^^^^^^^^^Exactly, stop with the poor chloe stuff. She treats her own boyfriend like second place to Clark, yet no one has a problem with it.


Oh I agree....Chloe has done her fair share of weasling...but she wouldn't throw something like a parent into the mix. It's like Chloe saying "So Clark....why don't you take charge of your destiny already or did your father have to die in vein?" It's just beyond rude. Like I said...I don't mind him trying to figure out the truth...i wouldn't expect any less. It's the way he went about it.

What does Clark's destiny have to do with his father? And Chloe has no clue about Clark's destiny. That would total ignorant of Chloe.

[Mischael12]

What does she even know about Clark's Destiny?

They both are on edge about things, you can't expect them to be tip-toeing around each other all the time.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
Oh I agree....Chloe has done her fair share of weasling...but she wouldn't throw something like a parent into the mix. It's like Chloe saying "So Clark....why don't you take charge of your destiny already or did your father have to die in vein?" It's just beyond rude. Like I said...I don't mind him trying to figure out the truth...i wouldn't expect any less. It's the way he went about it.

You know, I wish she would have said that. Raya pretty much summed it up that way. Someone needs to make him aware to that fact. Just as I think it would be OK for Chloe to say that when Clark was staying idle when people are in danger I think it was OK for Clark to mention Chloe's mom as incentive when Lana is in danger.

[Mischael12]

Isn't he taking charge of his destiny? He is attempting to get rid of the phantoms, he is helping more then before.

The only thing he is worried about is Lana, and even he says once he can get her out its on.

[SmallvilleMan]

Chloe doesn't know about Clark's destiny........She may have an idea, but she doesn't know. It would an ignorant statement on her part.

[xrayvision]

^^ I agree. But it makes me wonder, why did Chloe say at the end of Thirst that the DP is the paper of future superheroes?

[SmallvilleMan]

Al and Miles told her;) I don't know, unless he ability is to see the future.

[Mischael12]

they always put hints like that in the show.

Like Lana coining Superman In the pilot s"so what are you? Man or superman."

It goes on and on.

[freefall]

Or Jonathan calling him Man of Steel, or Andrea saying I change into costume in a phone booth, or the pilot in Crusade, "A bird? A PLANE??" or Bart wanting to start a League, or AC wanting Clark to join the JLA.

It's nothing new.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Well, in his defense Clark has already told Chloe to stop digging about his biological family even before Lineage. And he did apologize to her later on in the episode.

Him grabbing Chloe at the end of Noir because he's pissed off regarding Lana, and physically hurting Chloe, now that's a real no-no.
I agree him grabbin her in Noir was more uncall for then his attitude tonight.Even chloe knew he was gettin snappy cause she wouldn't tell lana secret,but I understand clark's rage.He knows lana was not only force into the marriage but that her reasons(To chloe)has sumthin to do wit him.And if its dealin wit him then he has a right 2 know or atleast he believes he does.The prob is chloe doesn't kno exactly what lionel threaten lana wit,she jus knows w/e it is its got both her/lana scared clark could die.And chloe knows if she tells clark he'll go after lionel without thinkin and if lionel is as dangerous as the girls think then clark is in trouble,but clark doesn't kno this.So he caught an attitude hopin chloe would out what she knows but she doesn't much herself.I think he was rude but it was expected when chloe gave him hints that lana is doin sumthin to protect HIM.And I agree,Noir grabbin was far worse imo,that was jus sumthin clark shouldn't do to chloe after all this time bein close

[Mischael12]

Clark his whole life has been forced to keep his emotions under control in fear of what his powers can do, the mental strain has gone pretty far.

His outbursts like that are along the same lines of why his powers seem to be Uber one moment and subpar the next.

He hasn't learned how to channel his emotions to his powers, so when he does get into emotional circumstances, instead of acting with force he just speaks.

Look at him afterwards though he looked like he regretted saying it.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
It's just like how Chloe treats Jimmy..lol

:rotfl:

[AndiGirl]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Chloe doesn't know about Clark's destiny........She may have an idea, but she doesn't know. It would an ignorant statement on her part.

haha...no, I wouldn't expect her to actually say that. My point was it would be pretty rude to throw his dead parent in his face. For the most part though I have to agree with DMA, grabbing Chloe the way he did was a lot worse. Tonight he just hit a nerve...considering Chloe's mom just went back into her catatonic state not too long ago. I know Clark is desperate at this point..I just think playing the parent card is a cheap shot.

[Honey45]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I know Clark is worried about Lana, which i understand. But it was a cheap shot to throw Chloe's mom back in her face like that. And no, I'm not just saying this cause I love Chloe....I would feel this way if he said those things to anyone. They were uncalled for. He knew he was being rude....but he just cared about helping Lana. Which i said...is admirable, but Clark tends to get blinders on when it comes to Lana, and how he should treat a best friend. In my opinion. Did anyone else think this?

Are you talking about when Clark said to Chloe "Do you remember what Lex did to you? What about what he did to your mom?" ?

I didn't think it was rude. It's not his fault that he thinks Chloe is helping Lana stay with Lex by not telling Clark anything. So Clark had to remind her how evil Lex is.

Maybe it was rude, I don't know. I didn't tihnk so.

[CLanaF23]

um Clark was trying to get chloe to help him..he just reminded her of what Lex did to her and her mom...cause she actin like she don't wanna help my girly Lana

[Poyntz]

I was more upset because he seems very self obsorbed that he doesnt seem to notice the pain his "best friend" is in. She was clearly sad when talking to lois about Jimmy leaving. Not to mention a few weeks back her mom went into that veg state and the threat with lex along with knowing so many secrets and trying to protect everyone in her own way. So with all that on her mind he goes and starts guilting her for keeping a promise to lana and trying to help protect him.. i dont know it sat wrong with me. Alhtough the other week with Noir was worse i agree.

As for Chloe weaseling jimmy to get the info on oliver and green arrow. She didn't weasel there she wasn't trying to find out, jimmy was excited about his picture and wanted to show her so she went to look.. and she put 2 and 2 together.

[Mischael12]

A cheap shot? So was here calling him a resource, made him seem like something just created for use, but they get over it. That's what is good about their friendship, and at a time like this with such crap going around, and everyone keeping secrets, including people who are bestfriends--what do you expect?

[SmallvilleMan]

Well, Clark both here and Noir was very upset. Chloe could have handled things better, especially knowing how Clark was going to be. Did she expect him to be handling things well? I don't think I would handle knowing the girl I was forced into a marriage and I had no clue why or who did this to her.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
haha...no, I wouldn't expect her to actually say that. My point was it would be pretty rude to throw his dead parent in his face. For the most part though I have to agree with DMA, grabbing Chloe the way he did was a lot worse. Tonight he just hit a nerve...considering Chloe's mom just went back into her catatonic state not too long ago. I know Clark is desperate at this point..I just think playing the parent card is a cheap shot.
Well thats the thing,he was only tryin to remind her how dangerous lex is.She seem to brush him off wit the "O so ur mad at me for not tellin u lana secret",and he was tryin to remind her.Yes I agree he was rude but not because he mention her mom,clark is concern.The same as he was for chloe/moira in Freak/Progeny and sumwhat ignorin lana(til chloe reminds him in progeny),its pretty much the same.Chloe knows lana is protectin clark,but clark doesn't kno that he has a idea but not facts.He wants chloe to confirm things and she jus brushed it off which trigger clark actin ooc as well.Imo both clark/chloe acted funny towards another,when has chloe ever been that dry?his reaction was expected,and remindin her that they r plottin 2 take lex down isn't as rude imo.I fault clark for havin lana blinders like the next but chloe keepin info about lionel havin sumthin on clark is jus as bad.They kno what lionel knowledge of clark can do,clark has a right 2 kno no matter what lana says.Imo both clark/chloe were jus off tonight both distracted by prior events(Jimmy leavin/clark findin out lionel has done sumthin).

[Poyntz]

Actually i think Chloe handles herself well though. because at the end of the day she'll still stick by Clark. I know alot of people wouldn't after they get spoken to like that.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by Deana
Clark is in Clana mode. Nothing is sacred when this mode is activated. Not even friendship, marriage, and or a normal personality.

:lol: Word.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by Poyntz
I was more upset because he seems very self obsorbed that he doesnt seem to notice the pain his "best friend" is in. She was clearly sad when talking to lois about Jimmy leaving. Not to mention a few weeks back her mom went into that veg state and the threat with lex along with knowing so many secrets and trying to protect everyone in her own way. So with all that on her mind he goes and starts guilting her for keeping a promise to lana and trying to help protect him.. i dont know it sat wrong with me. Alhtough the other week with Noir was worse i agree.

As for Chloe weaseling jimmy to get the info on oliver and green arrow. She didn't weasel there she wasn't trying to find out, jimmy was excited about his picture and wanted to show her so she went to look.. and she put 2 and 2 together.
well see thats the thing,clark doesn't kno what chlo-lo were talkin about.And even chloe didn't mention it til lois did,we knew she looked alil down but it could have been for all the diff reasons u listed only lois pointed out jimmy bein gone.And that was 2 show continuity cause I doubt he gets mention at all in the finale so mention his departure was their way of not ignorin last week.She obviously got over that quick(he'll be back),but her attitude towards clark was wrong.She was so distant that clark had to remind her of how dangerous lex is,she got offended and then clark made it clear he was takin a jab at her.At first she assume he was talkin about her(But he was mention lionel)then after she snaps at him he snaps back.Chlark both were off tonight it was as if the events in Noir upset them wit each other tonight.Jimmy departures effected how chloe acted towards clark,and chloe's knowledge of why lana is wit lex/lionel blackmail effected clark.Both were wrong none more so than the other imo,they madeup obviously thruout the epi.But the recent events in Noir effected how they act towards each other,notice chloe was fine when talkin wit lois/martha and so was clark.It was jus when together they were off

[Poyntz]

actually i dont think she was over it quite yet (meaning jimmy that phrase about He'll be back"). Although i think she had her self protection meganizm up (Sp?) Like after the tornado when she pulled the friendship card. I noticed she was a bit off i would think a best friend would too. And i felt she was distant because of allot on her mind including wanting to keep clark safe after what Lana told her. But i do see you make some valid points. :)

I do have to rewatch the episode again. Sometimes at first glance i get one impression then second glance i see it differently.

[AndiGirl]

I don't know...part of me thinks Clark was reminding Chloe of how dangerous Lex is...and the other part of me thinks he is just doing it to further his case. Which of course...he has a good one. The woman he loves is forced in a marriage and he has no idea why. But I think he knows Chloe knows better then anyone how dangerous Lex is. He did threaten her and everything....I don't think he was reminding her to be a good friend...it was more like "why won't you tell me what i want to know, Lex is a bad guy....and he could hurt Lana, and you still won't tell me?"

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I know Clark is worried about Lana, which i understand. But it was a cheap shot to throw Chloe's mom back in her face like that. And no, I'm not just saying this cause I love Chloe....I would feel this way if he said those things to anyone. They were uncalled for. He knew he was being rude....but he just cared about helping Lana. Which i said...is admirable, but Clark tends to get blinders on when it comes to Lana, and how he should treat a best friend. In my opinion. Did anyone else think this?
Clark is an idiot. Chloe should have slapped him right there!!!
:mad:
It's incredible this guy still has friends, considering how he treats them.
Shame on you, Clark.

[StrippedSmile]

If my mom went into a veg state and my best friend threw it in my face, I'd punch them. With a kryptonite glove, in Clark's case. Oh, and plus her boyfriend left for the summer.

Clark = BDA. I say Chloe ditches him.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I don't know...part of me thinks Clark was reminding Chloe of how dangerous Lex is...and the other part of me thinks he is just doing it to further his case. Which of course...he has a good one. The woman he loves is forced in a marriage and he has no idea why. But I think he knows Chloe knows better then anyone how dangerous Lex is. He did threaten her and everything....I don't think he was reminding her to be a good friend...it was more like "why won't you tell me what i want to know, Lex is a bad guy....and he could hurt Lana, and you still won't tell me?"

Also, don't forget that if anything happens to Lana, he will think that his dad's death was totally in vain. And I would agree.

I will go a step further and say bringing up what Lex did to Chloe's mom is TPTB's illustration of Clark's recognition of how dangerous Lex is. And this episode showed how both Lois & Clark were the ones who understood that fact, and not Chloe or Lana. I think this episode used this as a point to show why Clark & Lois will be at the Daily Planet in the future and not Chloe.

Chloe has brushed off the threat that is Lex several times this season, though she was willing to go toe to toe with him in Progeny. In Wither she told Lana to take a dive in the pool. She also went ahead and was Lana's maid of honor in a wedding she should have refused to be a part of. And this episode had Lois & Clark being the most proactive ones.

I know a lot of posters here will disagree, but that's my opinion.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

I just don't get why Clark treats his best friends like crap, continuously....
:confused:
Remember he stayed on Earth cause he wanted to be with his family and friends.....
Why, I ask?

[Deana]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Yeah, Clark was very pro active in this ep.

He rescued Lois, he helped put together with Chloe that Lex was behind the attack on the senator he killed Wes.

This dude accomplished a lot in this ep.

Lana is a great motivator for Clark.
:lol: I wish I had your faith in Clark. I think if Clark actually would've gotten a smooch from Lana and Lex never would've showed up...he would have never gone to save Lois. I think very lowly of him and this episode downgraded my opinion of him even further. :\

[xrayvision]

^^If I have any gripes about Clark, it's stuff like that. I don't think reminding Chloe of Lex's capability is rude. Not 1 bit. My gripes are about his inability to get over a MARRIED WOMAN. Scenes like the ones in Nemesis where he brought up how Lana was about to ditch Lex on the wedding day and that erotic handgrab are uncalled for. I think he should also let Lana fend for herself but keep an eye on her in case things get out of hand. That would be the best way for her to learn how to deal with Lex. I hated the way he acted in Promise and how he even mentioned Lana in Combat. That episode should not have been about his anger over Lana marrying Lex. The angriest he should have ever been was after Jonathan's death when he almost killed Snake or whatever his name was. If they wanted him pissed off in Combat, it should have been about his friends laughing and fooling around while there is danger in the world as was portrayed in the final scene of Wither when everyone was fooling around & Clark was alone bouncing his ball.

[Deana]

Originally posted by xrayvision
^^If I have any gripes about Clark, it's stuff like that. I don't think reminding Chloe of Lex's capability is rude. Not 1 bit. My gripes are about his inability to get over a MARRIED WOMAN. Scenes like the ones in Nemesis where he brought up how Lana was about to ditch Lex on the wedding day and that erotic handgrab are uncalled for. I think he should also let Lana fend for herself but keep an eye on her in case things get out of hand. That would be the best way for her to learn how to deal with Lex. I hated the way he acted in Promise and how he even mentioned Lana in Combat. That episode should not have been about his anger over Lana marrying Lex. The angriest he should have ever been was after Jonathan's death when he almost killed Snake or whatever his name was. If they wanted him pissed off in Combat, it should have been about his friends laughing and fooling around while there is danger in the world as was portrayed in the final scene of Wither when everyone was fooling around & Clark was alone bouncing his ball. Oh I agree.

It just doesn’t impress me when people bring up Clark’s actions in SR for an excuse for this Clark's actions when it comes to Lana.

I believe in that situation SVClark would’ve forsaken the fate of the city to go save Lana first. And I can see him stopping Lex, but Metropolis would be destroyed. Then he'd go whine to Chloe and Martha.

I just have no faith in this guy when it is the world versus saving Lana. In my opinion, the world would be screwed.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by Deana
Oh I agree.

It just doesn’t impress me when people bring up Clark’s actions in SR for an excuse for this Clark's actions when it comes to Lana.

I believe in that situation SVClark would’ve forsaken the fate of the city to go save Lana first. And I can see him stopping Lex, but Metropolis would be destroyed. Then he'd go whine to Chloe and Martha.

I agree. I honestly do not understand what's this parallel people see between the way SVClark is acting and SR's Clark. There's no parallel whatsoever. I don't recall Superman forcing Lois to leave Richard, or Superman leaving the city to be destroyed only to pursue Lois.

[AndiGirl]

Originally posted by xrayvision
^^If I have any gripes about Clark, it's stuff like that. I don't think reminding Chloe of Lex's capability is rude. Not 1 bit. My gripes are about his inability to get over a MARRIED WOMAN. Scenes like the ones in Nemesis where he brought up how Lana was about to ditch Lex on the wedding day and that erotic handgrab are uncalled for. I think he should also let Lana fend for herself but keep an eye on her in case things get out of hand. That would be the best way for her to learn how to deal with Lex. I hated the way he acted in Promise and how he even mentioned Lana in Combat. That episode should not have been about his anger over Lana marrying Lex. The angriest he should have ever been was after Jonathan's death when he almost killed Snake or whatever his name was. If they wanted him pissed off in Combat, it should have been about his friends laughing and fooling around while there is danger in the world as was portrayed in the final scene of Wither when everyone was fooling around & Clark was alone bouncing his ball.

exactly.

[elway]

Disagree totaly, Chloe needed a wake up call. 1 week she's telling Lex she isn't backing down. Then she holds back on Lex?

[meggy]

Originally posted by elway
Disagree totaly, Chloe needed a wake up call. 1 week she's telling Lex she isn't backing down. Then she holds back on Lex?

you know though, i have learned my lesson in the last half of this season...i am not taking any lines from the actors/actresses seriouly anymore...

i also had a WTF moment when she backs down from writing the story because Lex could hurt Lana..only two episodes later to say Lex would never hurt Lana:confused:...so then, i asked myself: What was the purpose of saying that in Progeny...after everything that happened...only to change in later episodes?..what did that one line do? it inevitably stopped her from writing the Luthor article...now that i have watched this episode...i know why.:\

[Runestone]

Originally posted by Deana
Clark is in Clana mode. Nothing is sacred when this mode is activated. Not even friendship, marriage, and or a normal personality.

Pathetic but true.

What's really sad is this is the future Man of Steel. Would you want this guy saving the world?

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by elway
Disagree totaly, Chloe needed a wake up call. 1 week she's telling Lex she isn't backing down. Then she holds back on Lex?
I think that's different......that's poor writing. Usually Chloe's character was always written very consistently. But this season she's flip-flopping. Still, that's no reason for Clark to be an insensitive Jerk.
:mad:

[vikingjedi]

Superman isn't perfect. Thats why we can identify with him. Clark makes mistakes just like every character on the show. Chloe, Lana, Lois, etc. have all made huge mistakes in the past

Clark was clearly angry at Chloe because she knew what was going on and wouldn't tell him. Remember Clark still loves Lana and she's right in Lex's crosshairs now

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by vikingjedi
Superman isn't perfect. Thats why we can identify with him. Clark makes mistakes just like every character on the show. Chloe, Lana, Lois, etc. have all made huge mistakes in the past.
Yeah, well..... That might be true, but what pi$$es me off is that Clark is not LEARNING. He's not improving, he's deteriorating. He will NEVER become Superman, ever!!! Maybe he's Bizarro after all.

Originally posted by vikingjedi
Clark was clearly angry at Chloe because she knew what was going on and wouldn't tell him. Remember Clark still loves Lana and she's right in Lex's crosshairs now
Again, that's no excuse. How long has he known Chloe? Over 6 years..... After everything she has done for him he simply HAS to cut her some slack. He should be trusting her enough to accept that she's keeping something from him. She's not even lying to him!!! And he pouts like a little baby! He, the guy who has been lying to his best friends for years.....

Sorry, I cannot root for an idiot.

[friday]

Chloe's a big girl and she knows how unpredictable Lex can be. I think Clark's frustrated that Chloe still won't tell him what she knows about Lana when she knows from Moira's experience, how dangerous Lex is.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Clark is at his best when he is the mature, understanding and supportive Clark.

Rude, obsessed with Lana Clark is an A-hole, probably why so many dislike Clana - Clark is not what he should be when he is with her or obsessing about her.

[meggy]

but ok..maybe i am just lost and confused by all of the convoluted plots around Lexana/Lionel/forced marriage etc....but what else does Chloe need to tell Clark that he should be angry with her about?..really, what else?

Last week she hinted to Clark that Lionel was involved with the forced marriage, she also outright told him that Lana was doing it to protect him or whatever....so he knows this...what else does he need to know from Chloe that has him pouting and b*tching about it and throwing stuff back in her face?...she informed him without actually breaking her promise to Lana..really, it's just a rock and a hard place here..

does Chloe know what they are "protecting" him from?....everybody knows how Lex can be...including Clark...why the hell doesnt he just go to Lana herself and ask her what the big deal is?...oh wait..Lana will also keep it a secret from him "to protect him"...but he wont be mad at her because she is doing all this against her will just for him.

whatever, Clark....

[nickyjean_1]

^^You took the post right out of my keyboard there buddy.. Chloe should become a priest so she can keep what people tell her to the grave if she wants..

She would probably lock Clark and Lana in a room if she thought it would do any good.. and isn't it better that Lana has someon who knows what's up and on her side and has her back and willing to keep her mouth shut then for Lana to be dealing with it alone...

If he has issues with Lana not trusting him or protectin him at her own expense or whatever then Clark should take that up with Lana.. he didn't have a problem talking to her when Lois was in trouble so what's the big deal now?

And if clark is such a friend then why didn't he even know that Jimmy was gone..

I know he's got the Clana blinders on as mentioned by others but grabbing anyone like he grabbed Chloe is uncalled for especially since he could rip her in half..

[Poyntz]

Your right Meggy. He didn't get all rude and pissy with Lana when She told him that "people keep secrets to protect the ones they love" Or something like that. He seems to accept that coming from Lana but g_d forbid Chloe keeps her word to someone else.........

[svfan50]

I really think its purely bad writing and lack of solid substancial script..!!!! Protecting Clark???? Thats the lamest thing ever..!!!

It is really appreciable that Chloe is not telling Clark what Lana asked her to keep as secret..her(Chloe's) charecter is growing and they show her as a maturing friend...both to Clark and Lana!! But Lana and Clark....that is again going downhill.....protecting Clark from whattt......they know that Clark is capable of a lot!!

Its just lack of ideas to carry on the show..

[margroks]

It was a cheap shot and I don't care if Clark is still whining and obsessing over this nasty girl, he shouldn't take it out on Chloe. Lana made her choice, she insisted she wanted to be with Lex, has been horribly nasty to Clark and Chloe both so why is it he should care about her or still stupidly think he loves her? This awful girl whom he recently learned was going to let Lex die? Did he forget what she was willing to do?

The fact is, Clark is supposed to be the ehro and Lana is married to another man. Every time he puts his hands on her or, gag me, last night almost KISSED her again, is repulsive and disgusting. She is another man's wife and she put herself in that position. She liked all that Luthor privelege and money and it's her own fault for being there. She just wants to whine about having to live with the consequences of he actions. She's no martyr although it looks like the writers want us to forget all those hateful things she said to Clark and paint her as one now.

Not to emntion, as much as I abhor the girl who is not at all like the real Lois Lane, Clark was supposed to be trying to rescue her yet he stops, seemingly forgets what he came for and starts to whine about Lana's welfare and even kiss her! Outrageous! I swear Lana wearing that stupid green K necklace gave her the power to make everyone around her forget everything and focus/obsess on her to the exclusion af all else. It's like she fogs everyone's brain and they can think of nothing or no one but her no matter how awfully she behaves.

Clark should have yelled at Lana for her evil behavior and at Nois for being an idiot instead of Chloe. Now there would have been some well directed and well deserved anger.

[kryptonaidxh]

:rolleyes: Yeah, writters have reduced Clark to be Lana´s pet and so into a pent pretentious obssesed for her, that´s all what he looks like:( :o he lives with blind eyes for the pink princess, it sucks and it´s annoying to see Clark so reduced to that when is not even real love, it´s just an insane and a fool obsession.
I don´t like Clark when he´s around her, he looks like a psychotic with that whim for being his nanny and blaming himself for everythin that happens to her that he can´t even concentrate in what is really important; his life, his destiny, his training, his battle against the zooners, and also people´s lives that need to be saved by him and that are more important like; Chloe who has been more loyal and glad with him, Martha, Lois, Jimmy and other people that is in danger because of the zooners and needs him.
And he just thinks in the fool of Lana, is like his view was marred and appart of all the troubles, wich is very dissapointing from a hero like him, from the future Superman.:)

[mcgairman]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I know Clark is worried about Lana, which i understand. But it was a cheap shot to throw Chloe's mom back in her face like that. And no, I'm not just saying this cause I love Chloe....I would feel this way if he said those things to anyone. They were uncalled for. He knew he was being rude....but he just cared about helping Lana. Which i said...is admirable, but Clark tends to get blinders on when it comes to Lana, and how he should treat a best friend. In my opinion. Did anyone else think this?

:( My thoughts too. Wonder why he would be so insensistive to his best friend. Is this really AM's swan song season?

:mad:

[kazek]

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
*SIGHS*. . .There is absolutely NO HOPE for the BDA. . .He was MORE than just rude. . .He was WRONG!!!!!!!. . .As much as I love CHLARK, Chloe deserves Jimmy, because at least, he worships the ground that she walks on. . .Jimmy is MORE of a man than Clark will ever be. . .Well, ya'll know what I mean.

Amen to that...

[friday]

So there's checks and balances for the Chlark friendship?

Clark's worried about Lana, so he came of a little rude to Chloe. He also "visited" Lana at the mansion to ask Lana for information that could help Lois.

Was Clark "rude" to sneak into Lana's room behind Lex's back to help Lois?

[meggy]

i'm not talking about Lois or Lana actually...it was great that he did whatever he needed to do to get help for both Lois and Lana..i have no problem with that at all....and i have no problems with Chlark fighting on and off because all friends fight at some point in time..no biggie...but if they are going to be fighting etc..please, make it something worthwhile and valid.

i am literally asking the question: what else does Chloe know about the "situation" that she is not telling Clark, which makes him so upset. seriously. i am confused about who is protecting/manipulating who, and what exactly Lana is protecting him from...that apparently, Chloe knows but wont tell him:rolleyes:

-i get that Lionel forced her into the marriage: Clark knows this.

-as to why he did it?..to make Lana the inside spy. so, Chloe knows this...does Clark know this?..well, he did go to Lana for inside info about Aries didnt he?...perhaps he can put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4, indicating that maybe, just maybe, Lana is doing some spying?

-let's see..what else?...this "weakness" that Lionel used to threaten Lana: chloe knows about greenK...dont think Lana knows yet...so she is still unsure of what this "weakness' is. So what does Chloe need to tell Clark here?....she's protecting you?...yip. been there. done that last week.

did i miss anything??..so really, what else is there that Chloe actually knows that she is not saying?...Chloe doesnt really know that much about the whole situation anyway.

honestly: i'm not trying to stir up trouble or pit the girls against each other for ships or any of that. i really just dont understand what else she has to tell him:confused:

[Jlvsclrk]

Agree Clark was rude but I think his frustration is warranted. Chloe is in a tough place between friends and their secrets, but there are some secrets that are too dangerous to keep and that's what Clark is getting at. Many lives are at stake here!

Clark does not KNOW Lionel forced Lana into the marriage. He's inferred this by a process of elimination, but because neither Chloe or Lana has told him flat out, he can't take appropriate action with Lionel.

And he certainly doesn't know that the leverage Lionel used was a threat to kill him. As much as I understand Lana buckling to the threat in Promise, she should have realized that Clark should be warned to be on his guard with Lionel. And really, by saying as much as she did to Chloe, the threat has been activated.

As for Lana being a spy, good for Lionel, but deadly dangerous for Lana and again, Clark is being deprived of information he really needs to know. How many people could die because Lana passed on the info on the Zoner to Lionel and didn't at least cc Clark.

[ClowRegulus]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Or Jonathan calling him Man of Steel, or Andrea saying I change into costume in a phone booth, or the pilot in Crusade, "A bird? A PLANE??" or Bart wanting to start a League, or AC wanting Clark to join the JLA.

It's nothing new.

Lana or Chloe had called Clark "Man of Steel" seasons ago (I saw in a rerun, but I don't remember the episode - maybe the one with that Byron guy), before Jonathan in season 5.

[smallville sage]

Let's not forget guys: sometimes it has to get worse before it gets better.

Maybe Clark has to become as Lana-obsessed as possible so that he'll really screw up and then maybe he'll get that "wake-up call" we've all been begging for.

Someone said earlier on here that Lana is a great motivator for Clark. Yeah, I laugh at that . . . but REGRET over Lana could be, no?

[petewillreturn]

Clark is always worried about Lana. Is she okay, is she sad, mad, hungry, hurt, comfortable, likes what he is wearing, is she sleeping okay, waking up okay, is the shower water okay, does she like her shampoo, is she resting enough, is her pillow fluffed enough, is Chloe treating her okay, do the servants realizing that they are living out his fantasy of catering to her every need. Clark probably doesn’t get much sleep because it would take away time he can spend thinking about Lana. This makes him cranky and that is why he is mean to Chloe, which is okay because he is “in love” and this gives him the right to do whatever he feels like. So it is okay that he treats people around him like s**t because the only one that matters is Lana. It is other people’s problem that they don’t realize that the world revolves around this “love.” Who cares if Clark could be out saving the world what kind of world would it be with out Clana.

[natwelling]

I hated clark in this episode he is always wanting to know about lana and acts really rude with chloe. When I saw the talon scene I wanted to turn it off the TV but I couldn't....... ITS SMALLVILLE..

BUT IAM STILL MAD AT KENT!!!!

[svfan50]

Originally posted by natwelling
I hated clark in this episode he is always wanting to know about lana and acts really rude with chloe. When I saw the talon scene I wanted to turn it off the TV but I couldn't....... ITS SMALLVILLE..

BUT IAM STILL MAD AT KENT!!!!



Am with you!!!! still madd!!!

[AndiGirl]

Originally posted by petewillreturn
Clark is always worried about Lana. Is she okay, is she sad, mad, hungry, hurt, comfortable, likes what he is wearing, is she sleeping okay, waking up okay, is the shower water okay, does she like her shampoo, is she resting enough, is her pillow fluffed enough, is Chloe treating her okay, do the servants realizing that they are living out his fantasy of catering to her every need. Clark probably doesn’t get much sleep because it would take away time he can spend thinking about Lana. This makes him cranky and that is why he is mean to Chloe, which is okay because he is “in love” and this gives him the right to do whatever he feels like. So it is okay that he treats people around him like s**t because the only one that matters is Lana. It is other people’s problem that they don’t realize that the world revolves around this “love.” Who cares if Clark could be out saving the world what kind of world would it be with out Clana.

:rotfl: haha....I loved that!

I think Clarks biggest blind spot is Lana...and when he's focusing on her he can't seem to think about anything else. So in this instance he got wrapped up in Lana, and completely disregarded Chloe's feelings. I'm almost convinced that the writers are doing this on purpose. They are showing that as long as Clark can't move on from Lana he won't truly become the superman we all know and love. At this point I think Lana and Clark deserve eachother! haha. And if it will get Clark a step closer to being superman (so he can stop whining over wanting her) then so be it.

[kryptonaidxh]

Originally posted by petewillreturn
Clark is always worried about Lana. Is she okay, is she sad, mad, hungry, hurt, comfortable, likes what he is wearing, is she sleeping okay, waking up okay, is the shower water okay, does she like her shampoo, is she resting enough, is her pillow fluffed enough, is Chloe treating her okay, do the servants realizing that they are living out his fantasy of catering to her every need. Clark probably doesn’t get much sleep because it would take away time he can spend thinking about Lana. This makes him cranky and that is why he is mean to Chloe, which is okay because he is “in love” and this gives him the right to do whatever he feels like. So it is okay that he treats people around him like s**t because the only one that matters is Lana. It is other people’s problem that they don’t realize that the world revolves around this “love.” Who cares if Clark could be out saving the world what kind of world would it be with out Clana.

:) Yes, I agree, so true all.:) ;)

[RedKRules]

There should be a Clark´s split .....like in S3 ...........and that way Kal El would kick Clarks´a** ........what a BDA !!

[cmm]

Originally posted by Deana
Clark is in Clana mode. Nothing is sacred when this mode is activated. Not even friendship, marriage, and or a normal personality.

LMAO! So true.

[SmallvilleMan]

Yeah, Clark is worried about nothing. What's there to be worried about or upset about? The girl he loves is stuck in a marriage with a dangerous man, which she was forced into......He shouldn't be mad, he should be focused on being a good friend to Chloe:rolleyes: Honestly...........


Clark is in Clana mode. Nothing is sacred when this mode is activated. Not even friendship, marriage, and or a normal personality.

Yeah, because clearly Chloe was worried about their friendship. Oh wait......she wasn't, she was crying over her lost bf who she took for granted the entire season....

[cmm]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah, Clark is worried about nothing. What's there to be worried about or upset about? The girl he loves is stuck in a marriage with a dangerous man, which she was forced into......He shouldn't be mad, he should be focused on being a good friend to Chloe:rolleyes: Honestly...........



Yeah, because clearly Chloe was worried about their friendship. Oh wait......she wasn't, she was crying over her lost bf who she took for granted the entire season....

The girl he loves got herself stuck in that loveless marriage. Lionel aside she had so many chances to leave before that but no she stayed, mainly to spite clark.

So clark is allowed to pine for lana but Chloe can't cry about her boyfriend??? Chloe is always there for him ALWAYS no matter what, and I have yet to see Clark do the same. Even when he does save her and is attentive to her it has to be a lanaless episode for him to truly be a great friend. When lana's there its everyone else is crap and chloes crap, she's just a source of info like the internet with no real feelings at all.

[Charissa70]

Jor-el and Jonathan both need to materalize and kick Clarks a**. For being from an alien race that can travel across the universe and has the destiny to save the planet earth, he should be super intelligent and logical. Meanwhile, the writers are making him more of a doof (how did he get out of high school?) and his life revolves around his inactive groin. (I should be watching Lana more-I don't care if Lex made a direct threat on my best friend Chloe's life). He really needs some male friends on the show and they really need to kill off Lana just to get the writers to give him a different script-He basically has had the same script for years-I love Lana, but I can't have her because of ................. (fill in the blank)

[Mischael12]

He was raised human, humans are a lot of things logical and super intelligent tend to be at the bottom of the list.

[ginnyfan]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I know Clark is worried about Lana, which i understand. But it was a cheap shot to throw Chloe's mom back in her face like that. And no, I'm not just saying this cause I love Chloe....I would feel this way if he said those things to anyone. They were uncalled for. He knew he was being rude....but he just cared about helping Lana. Which i said...is admirable, but Clark tends to get blinders on when it comes to Lana, and how he should treat a best friend. In my opinion. Did anyone else think this?

Yeah, Clark was trying to guilt trip Chloe into telling him what he wanted to know. I thought it was tacky. LOL! Chloe didn't put up with it for a second. It's kind of fun to see Clark on the other side of things and how knowing that the person keeping the secret is lookng out for you doesn't really make it any better.

[meteor_phreak]

i'm still reading through the thread...but i agree. this was the first time in a while that i thought he was flat out wrong...there was no emergency, no life or death struggle going on with minutes to decide, he was just being a jerk...i wanted to smack him...

[that girl]

When Clark brought Moira up I was like, "don't you dare bring her mother into this!" So, yea, I agree that Clark was pretty much an ******* tonight. And I didn't like it.

[SmallvilleMan]

The girl he loves got herself stuck in that loveless marriage. Lionel aside she had so many chances to leave before that but no she stayed, mainly to spite clark.

No, she didn't get herself stuck in a loveless marriage, that was Lionel. She didn't have a reason to get out before that, she didn't know about the pregnancy and more importantly, she didn't know how Clark felt. So no, she didn't trap herself.


So clark is allowed to pine for lana but Chloe can't cry about her boyfriend??? Chloe is always there for him ALWAYS no matter what, and I have yet to see Clark do the same. Even when he does save her and is attentive to her it has to be a lanaless episode for him to truly be a great friend. When lana's there its everyone else is crap and chloes crap, she's just a source of info like the internet with no real feelings at all.

Jimmy is away on business trip. Are you really going to compare that to the situation Clark and Lana are in? You have yet to see Clark do the same? How many times has Clark saved her life? Clark owes Chloe NOTHING, NOTHING.

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by that girl
When Clark brought Moira up I was like, "don't you dare bring her mother into this!" So, yea, I agree that Clark was pretty much an ******* tonight. And I didn't like it.

I don't agree. Clark holds back his feelings so much that it was refreshing to get his honest feelings out. And personally, I thought it needed to be said, because if Chloe is holding something back that could be of help, she should tell him. But the deal was was that she hinted to everything and doesn't really know much more. But you can't blame Clark for asking IMO.

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

yeah, darn clark has to act all dumb sometimes... like a human and such. sheesh.

[MetroGirl06]

Yes, Clark was rude.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Runestone
Pathetic but true.

What's really sad is this is the future Man of Steel. Would you want this guy saving the world?

Clark isn't the Man of Steel. He's the Man of Squeal.

[samanta]

Yes, Clark was rude. I understand that he can be angry and take it out on someone but has to be almost every time on Chloe.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Clark 'reminding' Chloe what Lex had done to her mother was totally uncalled for. It was rude, stupid, insensitive and completely self-absorbed. The writers have succeeded. They have turned Clark Kent into an a$$. Superman on SV will be called A$$man, I guess. Thank you very much, AlMiles.

[petewillreturn]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Clark 'reminding' Chloe what Lex had done to her mother was totally uncalled for. It was rude, stupid, insensitive and completely self-absorbed. The writers have succeeded. They have turned Clark Kent into an a$$. Superman on SV will be called A$$man, I guess. Thank you very much, AlMiles.


But…but…he’s “in love.” You just don’t understand. :rotfl:

[smallvillefreak24]

clark is just worried about lana and was trying to get info.. but i think clark doesnt appreciate chloe..

[Krypton935]

Yeah I felt bad for Chloe. I was like "Clark how dare you talk to your future girlfriend like that!"

[Kid Collins]

Wasn't Chloe accused of being rude to Jimmy in the last ep because she and Clark was worried about Lana getting shot?

:rolleyes:

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Wasn't Chloe accused of being rude to Jimmy in the last ep because she and Clark was worried about Lana getting shot?

:rolleyes:
Well, you can't honestly compare the Chlark and Ch(l)immy relationships..... I mean, Chlark share a bond of trust and friendship for over 6 years. They had up and downs and they grew closer and closer over the years. Yet Clark still treats Chloe like crap, whenever he hears the name 'Lana'. This guy indeed belongs in the mental institution that we saw in 'Labyrinth', IMO.

[wolverine316]

Figured that the majority would go this way since this is a Chloe is god and Clark is scum site. I find it funny that Chloe keeping this secret from Clark whose life could be in danger is idiotic but the fans consider it bad writing but when Clark does something that is reflected poorly on himself he is an ass.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by wolverine316
Figured that the majority would go this way since this is a Chloe is god and Clark is scum site. I find it funny that Chloe keeping this secret from Clark whose life could be in danger is idiotic but the fans consider it bad writing but when Clark does something that is reflected poorly on himself he is an ass.
You raise a good point when you question Chloe's reasons for keeping the secret from Clark. But what choice does she have? Lana told her that Clark must not know, otherwise his life is in danger, right? I think that's where the problem lies........why did Lana do that? Was that really necessary? Some posters have correctly pointed out that Clark already pretty much knows everything, so the whole thing is ridiculous. Still, I have to insist that Chloe has proven herself worthy of Clark's trust over the years. He should acknowledge that, especially because he had to lie to his friends for so long. He should cut her some slack. Instead he behaves like a pouting cry-baby. And that's wrong, IMO.

[freefall]

Yeah Clark is a bit rude with Chloe there, but seems to me there's a lot of karmic backlash happening with the characters on this show currently. Just how many times Chloe herself has guilt-tripped and emotionally blackmailed Clark to make him spill the beans about himself? Always saying in his face, "You'd always be alone if you don't share your secret."

Of course, two wrongs doesn't make a right, but I'm simply making an observation.

[kryptonaidxh]

:o :lol: Yeah, in the last season he has been reduced only into a crying baby with that psychotic obsession for babysitting Lana; his sight is fogged by that insane obsession for her, and so e can´t think in nothing else that being her nanny all the time and "save her" from her evil babysitter; Lex, has he forgot that she´s with Lex by her own choice, nobody forced her to be with the villian of the story, also is very irritating seing how Clark blame himself about all what happens to her and the fact that she´s with Lex now., why is he responsible?:confused: .
He shpould concentrate in what is really important; his life,his destiny, his training, his family, his friends and most; his happiness, and Lana has just brought him sufferings and troubles.:)

[HotStudsSuccess]

Originally posted by Krypton935
Yeah I felt bad for Chloe. I was like "Clark how dare you talk to your future girlfriend like that!"

:lol: :rolleyes: You are so overboard thinking that Clark and Chloe will end up being boyfriend + girlfriend its drop dead funny. Clark will end up with Lori Lemaris or an icon celebrity like a young Belinda Carlisle before Chloe.

[meggy]

Originally posted by wolverine316
Figured that the majority would go this way since this is a Chloe is god and Clark is scum site. I find it funny that Chloe keeping this secret from Clark whose life could be in danger is idiotic but the fans consider it bad writing but when Clark does something that is reflected poorly on himself he is an ass.

hmm..i dont recall anyone saying Chloe is a god or Clark is scum. Everyone can express their opionion can they not?...i would say that Lana and Chloe's logic of keeping this "secret" (whatever it is) from Clark is clearly not good logic at all....but alas...all for the drama

so no. no one is a god and no one is scum. ppl just have strong opinions

[AndiGirl]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
[B]No, she didn't get herself stuck in a loveless marriage, that was Lionel. She didn't have a reason to get out before that, she didn't know about the pregnancy and more importantly, she didn't know how Clark felt. So no, she didn't trap herself.


Lana had every reason to get out before. She new she was still in love with Clark, but she loved Lex too. She should have taken the time to figure out what she really wanted....not rush into a marriage. I agree with someone else who said she seemed to be with Lex to spite Clark. She wanted to be with a man who didn't keep secrets from her...that was all that mattered. In the episode with the engagement party (can't remember the name! haha) he tells her how he feels. She knows he's out of it of course...but she also knows it's true. She uses the excuse that it's too late to change anything, and why tell her now. But she was going to call the wedding off the day of the wedding?? That's not too late?? haha. I don't know..I think that will always be my problem with the Lana character....it's always way more dramatic then it needs to be. But I guess that's what keeps people watching! Don't bite my head of people....just my opinion. ;)

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I think that will always be my problem with the Lana character....it's always way more dramatic then it needs to be. But I guess that's what keeps people watching!

Apparantly, it doesn't keep people watching. ;)

[AndiGirl]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Apparantly, it doesn't keep people watching. ;)


Well...It keeps some people watching! haha. I'm sure some enjoy that sort of thing. :lol:

[Seryna]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I know Clark is worried about Lana, which i understand. But it was a cheap shot to throw Chloe's mom back in her face like that. And no, I'm not just saying this cause I love Chloe....I would feel this way if he said those things to anyone. They were uncalled for. He knew he was being rude....but he just cared about helping Lana. Which i said...is admirable, but Clark tends to get blinders on when it comes to Lana, and how he should treat a best friend. In my opinion. Did anyone else think this?

That was a horrible shot for Clark to take- shooting her mother like that as a way to score a point. "After what he did to her mother' . On top of which, Chloe was obviously dealing with Jimmy's departure and Lois' attempts to cheer her up- both which would require a soft Clark- hug, not his blind 'Your not me, so your feelings are irrelevent' lecture.

[maudeline]

Cool I wasnt the only one who detected that the BDA was rude to chloe !

[vikingjedi]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, well..... That might be true, but what pi$$es me off is that Clark is not LEARNING. He's not improving, he's deteriorating. He will NEVER become Superman, ever!!! Maybe he's Bizarro after all.

I think he's learning its just that the situations are getting more complicated and he hasn't had his training yet


Again, that's no excuse. How long has he known Chloe? Over 6 years..... After everything she has done for him he simply HAS to cut her some slack. He should be trusting her enough to accept that she's keeping something from him. She's not even lying to him!!! And he pouts like a little baby! He, the guy who has been lying to his best friends for years.....

Sorry, I cannot root for an idiot.

Lives are at stake here. He trusts Chloe but he wants to help Lana and he can't do that without all the information. Emotions can make you do stupid things. Thats not an excuse, just trying to show you where he's coming from

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by vikingjedi
I think he's learning its just that the situations are getting more complicated and he hasn't had his training yet

He does not need his training to treat his friends right. That's common sense, IMO. And he knew how to do it if he was a decent person, not a spoilt alien prince.

Originally posted by vikingjedi
Lives are at stake here. He trusts Chloe but he wants to help Lana and he can't do that without all the information.
Well, then maybe he should start gathering his own information instead of using his friends to do that for him.... Lately Clark is stumbling through this show like he's the only one who has no idea what's going on....

[vikingjedi]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
He does not need his training to treat his friends right. That's common sense, IMO. And he knew how to do it if he was a decent person, not a spoilt alien prince.

I agree. But I think every character on the show has mistreated their friends at one point. Just because Clark has superpowers doesn't make him perfect. He makes mistakes, even Superman as an adult makes mistakes


Well, then maybe he should start gathering his own information instead of using his friends to do that for him.... Lately Clark is stumbling through this show like he's the only one who has no idea what's going on....

I just think there's too much for him to handle at this point. He's dealing with Lex, Lana's marriage, the phantoms, Jor-El isn't talking to him, super soldiers, meteor freaks, Lionel being deceptive, Chloe won't tell him everything, his mom moving and becoming a senator, and the JLA can't really help him right now. Plus his dad and Raya are dead and he hasn't had his training yet

Nobody could handle all of that by themselves IMO. I think thats what Chloe was trying to tell him earlier this season. That he's not alone and there are other people that can help

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by vikingjedi
Plus his dad and Raya are dead and he hasn't had his training yet.
To be honest, I have never understood why people are so obsessed about Clark's training. He does not need any training for what he has to do now. He simply has to get his head out of his ass. Or better: out of Lana's ass, I guess.....

Originally posted by vikingjedi
Nobody could handle all of that by themselves IMO. I think thats what Chloe was trying to tell him earlier this season. That he's not alone and there are other people that can help
Exactly!!! And how do you treat people whose help you depend on? Hmmm?
C'mon Clark.....

[vikingjedi]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
To be honest, I have never understood why people are so obsessed about Clark's training. He does not need any training for what he has to do now. He simply has to get his head out of his ass. Or better: out of Lana's ass, I guess.....

I think if he had already trained he would have full control over all of his powers and he would know everything about who and what he's facing. Right now he doesn't even know how to put the zoners back in the phantom zone without killing them, Jor-El's crystal saved him from becoming Zod's slave, and both of the people that can help him aren't there (Raya and Jor-El)

Its like a soldier going to war without being trained first. They wouldn't be prepared. They might be able to get by but it would be a lot more difficult


Exactly!!! And how do you treat people whose help you depend on? Hmmm?
C'mon Clark.....

I agree with you. Clark messed up. But I don't think people should expect Clark to do the right thing every single time. Everybody makes mistakes

Anyway good debate, this show rocks

[darkone]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
It's just like how Chloe treats Jimmy..lol

Bwahaha aint that the truth?:rotfl:

If Clark is really that bad for Chloe why doesnt she end the friendship then?Clark's not buying her shi* anymore and its looking good on him IMO.


Exactly!!! And how do you treat people whose help you depend on? Hmmm?
C'mon Clark.....

It's about time to get rid of that dependence.As fast as possible IMO.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by darkone
Bwahaha aint that the truth?:rotfl:

If Clark is really that bad for Chloe why doesnt she end the friendship then?
Good question. If Clark keeps acting that way he will soon have no more friends at all.
Only a divorced girlfriend-princess who makes his life a living hell.

[msleggie]

When Clark gets angry, he doesn't handle his anger very well. I didn't like the way Clark spoke to Chloe, even though it wasn't in a harsh tone, his words were still a little mean. Clark should understand by now that Chloe wouldn't put Lana or him in any kind of danger. He shouldn't try to press Chloe into making her feel bad or guilty about keeping something form him about Lana b/c of things Lex has done to her.

[Zaine07]

Clark really needs to stop treating chloe like crap. She is always there for him and yet he likes to take all his anger out on chloe. That is just not right.

[Poyntz]

I don't see Clark taking anger out on Lana when Lana insists of keeping things to herself instead of telling him what is going on. But of course if its Chloe he can be as unthoughtful and snippy as he wants.

[Zaine07]

That is only because he does not love chloe. That is why he feels he can yell at chloe anytime he wants too. I think that deep down inside he is scared of lana. Because he never yells at her.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Zaine07
That is only because he does not love chloe. That is why he feels he can yell at chloe anytime he wants too. I think that deep down inside he is scared of lana. Because he never yells at her.
I disagree. Clark has yelled at Lana numerous times.
That's simply how he treats those who are close to him.

[darkone]

I think Clark shouldnt yell at her because of that secret Chloe shares with Lana.But he actually SHOULD yell at her for the galactically stupid "dive in" comment from Wither.But I guess he'll never learn about that so I take this anger as a somewhat replacement. ;)

[Khyla]

And, yet again, we have Clark yelling at Chloe:
Have you ever heard him yell at Lana for any of the crap or stupid stuff she did, or for holding back stuff from him? No! (please point out to me where you've seen this ILWC)

Jonathan and Martha never held back when they felt yelling was needed. It's part of a healthy relationship :)

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Khyla
And, yet again, we have Clark yelling at Chloe:
Have you ever heard him yell at Lana for any of the crap or stupid stuff she did, or for holding back stuff from him? No! (please point out to me where you've seen this ILWC)
Hmmmmm, well since the Lexana started Clark constantly preaches to Lana about everything she does is wrong. He expects her to always do what he thinks is right (and most of the times he IS right, of course...), just in the very same way he does with Chloe. This might not qualify as yelling, but it's definitely a very annoying way of nagging, IMO. And Lana was clearly annoyed by that, earlier this season, back when she was still lover-dovey with Lex. Clark wants Lana to be perfect, the way he saw her in S1. But she's not. She's only human.