Why did Clark Kill Wes?

[Mr.]

:D So why did clark kill wes?

i say beacause he was jealous... :rotfl:

lol comments please

[uhhuhhim]

I say it was because he knew he was as strong as Titan; nothing more.

[Kid Collins]

self defense. He knows what Wes is capable of.

[uhhuhhim]

Agreed.

[xrayvision]

Hahaha, Clark is a killer & a mean guy. LOL!!

[Superman86]

Because the writers can't think of a good story line to use Wes in. Oh wait they did have one. When Wes got heat visioned it was like in Static when Batista got killed. I thought the 3 second fight scenes were over after Combat? Just a cheap way of throwing in some CG to make up for a real fight.

[God-Man]

Clark's just lazy. :p

[xrayvision]

Wes is this episode's Kenny of South Park. Or should I say this episode's Lana.

[Khyla]

it wasn't Wes. It was an "enhanced" soldier, a monster, a prototype created from combining samples from a Kryptonian Warrior, and dozens of Meteor Freaks, with Wes' body.
Clark was defending himself and Lois .

[Mischael12]

Technically Wes was already dead...you can't kill something already dead can you?

[Ireallylikethisshow]

My deluded Clois shippery mind had to vote for those options... but I know it's not true :p :lol:

I think he felt guilty once Lois cried over Wes.

I don't think he knew the heat vision would kill him, I think there was some kind of serum or hardwater in Wes that made him get burned out...

[Lavenderrose73]

Wes was about to clobber Clark, and he was simply defending himself (and trying to protect Lois). I, myself, was saying, "Clark, get the El Stone!"

[falcon64z8]

...because he is freakin about to be Superman so he could do whatever he wants...

[DarkThunder0112]

Originally posted by Superman86
Because the writers can't think of a good story line to use Wes in. Oh wait they did have one. When Wes got heat visioned it was like in Static when Batista got killed. I thought the 3 second fight scenes were over after Combat? Just a cheap way of throwing in some CG to make up for a real fight.

I agree! I thought that Combat was taking Smallville/Clark in a new direction. However, it seems as though the writers are taking the easy way out AGAIN!:confused:

[SteveS]

Ah good, Helo the cylon lover got killed. I need to go over to BSG and celebrate. Thanks, ClarkMan.

[Lavenderrose73]

Oh, for heaven's sake! Clark has a heart of gold, and he would never hurt someone unless he had to. He backed off so Lois could talk to Wes when he was back to himself. That should say something, as if there was anything needed to be said.

[Bosrudorfer]

He was protecting him... what did you want him to give Wes a huge and some flowers? Geez he's Superman... not a wuss.

[Ultron]

It's self-defense against a super powered freak arguably as powerful as Clark, and trained military fighting, as well as direct intent to kill without mercy.

It's tragic Wes got killed again but a) he wasn't in control and b) he was going to kill Clark and Lois.

[ginnyfan]

Because Wes was basically a killing machine. He didn't have control of his own body, Clark was barely a match for him in strength. I don't think it was an accident but... I don't think Clark was shooting to kill... he was going by Chloe's info and shooting to break through the force field.

[maryjanewatson]

that poor guy spends more of his time on smallville dead than alive.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

clearly no1 was watching or listening to what wes has to say to lois about why he was the way he was

the official story was that wes was killed in battle in afghan but he never died he was in hospital severly injured and lex offered wes to continue serving his country by becoming what he did he just didnt realise what drastic changes he would have to go thru

wes had no control over his actions he was programed to kill and leave no evidence or witnesses at a scene but at the time he battled clark wes had to take down clark as he was an obstacle standin infront of his mission: kill lois

clark had to pierce wes's force field but neither wes or clark knew of the consequences if wes was taken down by such actions

[boywithbluehanger]

Clark killed him because he knew Wes was under Lex's contol. Although I think it was a bit out of character for him to just burn to death a guy about to pound him.

Theres always some weird scenes on Smallville where Clark kills or seemingly kills someone when you wouldn't think he should.

Like the episode "Run" when he used his arm strength to rocket that guy through the roof! Well that might've just been for humorous purposes but in this episode's case Clark killing that guy so quickly seemed a bit extreme for him...well unless he thought the guy zoner-related or something.

[kazek]

The writers were compensating.. Instead of giving us a fight scene they give us this.

But its about time Clark used his heat vision.

[Kal-alien]

I was just shocked that someone seemingly that tought got killed by a little eyeball heat.

[margroks]

It was an accident but I really don't care at this point. We'd all be better off if Wes had killed Lois to begin with. This was a pathetic ep and dull as dust. Too much Lois and Clana, which actually, any amount of Clana is too much, anyway and it was just a drag, drag, drag.

[petewillreturn]

If Clark didn’t kill him then he would have killed Louis. This is a case of self-defense. I’m one of those that believe there is a difference between murder which we have seen Lex do many times and killing someone for self defense of protection of someone else.

[Nam-Ek2]

he had no other choice, just like with titan

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I say bad and lazy writing.

[Mischael12]

True it was...but hadn't Wes been hit by a Machine gun up close? How the hell he survive that?

But the only other option they had was make a good fight scene...and remember this is Smallville: High School Drama, not Superman.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by Mischael12
True it was...but hadn't Wes been hit by a Machine gun up close? How the hell he survive that?

But the only other option they had was make a good fight scene...and remember this is Smallville: High School Drama, not Superman.

LOL, High School drama is about right, certainly not Superman.

I think that IF Clark had tried other things, perhaps Wes death would at least seem more "justifiable".

[Mischael12]

Though i think we can all admit against a seasoned soldier Clark would have gotten his ass kicked. But obviously Wes wasn't as strong as Titan--cause Titan hit clark once and he bleed, Wes hit clark more then once and not a single drop of blood.

WTF? Is Clark getting more durable, or is the continuity really that bad?

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Considering that Clark has the super speed to NOT even be seen buy Wes, Clark getting hit was just silly.

Maybe Clark was head butting Wes punches.

[ClowRegulus]

Originally posted by Ultron
It's self-defense against a super powered freak arguably as powerful as Clark, and trained military fighting, as well as direct intent to kill without mercy.

It's tragic Wes got killed again but a) he wasn't in control and b) he was going to kill Clark and Lois.

Totally agree.
It was an accident.

[drake00]

I say it was payback for Wes's wife not finishing off Lex. ;-)

[bobser]

Clark did what he had to do, and frankly, hopefully we see enough threats introduced in the Superman mythos (both in the next Smallville and the next Superman movie) that Superman has to use the full extent of his abilities.

People have wondered why people love Batman/Xmen/ and even Spiderman have had film success so much in recent time, but Clark/Superman sort of looms as a second to characters based in these various franchises.

The answer is easy.

Superman hasn't been given enough real threats, living threats, that are actually on his power level. That is, a threat where if he were to let his guard down or not fight to his full ability could kill him (which he may/may not even care about) but more importantly, destroy innocents on Earth.

This episode was brilliant in its own way as it introduced what we need to see Clark/Superman confronted with more often. A real threat.

With a guy who had the physical strength of Titan, a degree of superspeed, and force shield and could turn invisible, Clark had a decent challenger. If he were in a deserted area, and alone, Clark may have slugged it out and gone the "boyscout" approach in trying to apprehend Wes.

This episode, Lois was in immediate danger and Clark knew Wes was being mind-controlled. If Clark died, or didn't immediately take Wes out, it would have meant plenty more death for innocents.

So writers cleverly had him strongly unleash one of his powers (heat-vision, and not even full throttle) to mini-nuke Wes. You can see he was visibly pained even having to do what he did, and afterward this point was reinforced with his talk to Martha in the kitchen.

Still, you had Clark versus a reasonable threat, one where he didn't have the clear edge or couldn't necessarily afford to "go easy" on a villain. This is what the Superman mythos will need to see more (while still highlighting and keeping true to Superman's moral aspect). Superman struggling with how to confront equally powered (or super-intelligent, so we can see him actually having to use his brain at times too) if this character is going to continue to compete with others in comic related ventures.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

What makes Superman Unique IS his morals, his "boyscout" attitude.

Without it, he is just like every other Super powered being.

[bobser]

^^^Yep, and he can still have that attitude. He still needs bigger threats that he can and must use his full abilities on.

[ozmette]

i just finished watching the episode - it appeared that clark's heat blast activated a failsafe protocol within wes which started a self destruct sequence. so while clark injured him it was the programming (mind control) which ultimately caused him to die.

just a theory

[CallMeClark]

I honestly think either way he would have died. I don't think Clark "killed" him.

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by Khyla
it wasn't Wes. It was an "enhanced" soldier, a monster, a prototype created from combining samples from a Kryptonian Warrior, and dozens of Meteor Freaks, with Wes' body.
Clark was defending himself and Lois .

It was more than this. Chloe told Clark the Justice League had already faced one of these guys and it took a nuclear explosion to eliminate him. Clark knew he had to use his greatest amount of power to protect himself and Lois.

[bobser]

Yeah, what was up with Wes mumbling all of those digits right before he died?

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

his mumbling was him letting us know he was activatin the self destruct protocol his system was damaged due to the heat blast so clark never killed him clark injured him by means of destroying the force field and the force field was part of wes's system

afterall lex wouldnt want to repair his prototype wen he had hundreds more at his disposal

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by ozmette
i just finished watching the episode - it appeared that clark's heat blast activated a failsafe protocol within wes which started a self destruct sequence. so while clark injured him it was the programming (mind control) which ultimately caused him to die.

just a theory

You maybe right and if you are, its another "gray area" created by lazy writing.

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by ozmette
i just finished watching the episode - it appeared that clark's heat blast activated a failsafe protocol within wes which started a self destruct sequence. so while clark injured him it was the programming (mind control) which ultimately caused him to die.

I agree. With the abilities that Wes had, there is no way to be certain whether Clark caused his death. I mean, we know that blast would have killed any human, however, Wes wasn't really human anymore. It is possible that Clark's actions might not have hurt him, that it just fried the controlling aspect. And Wes used that to terminate himself.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

More remorse on Clark side should have been displayed, he took another life, again by accident it seems.

[All about Clark]

^I thought he did show remorse twice, first with Lois and how upset she was and later looking at his military profile. Clark knew he was a good guy and didn't deserve his fate, but that's what happens when you fall into Lex's hands. I think more and more Clark understands he has to do something about Lex.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by All about Clark
^I thought he did show remorse twice, first with Lois and how upset she was and later looking at his military profile. Clark knew he was a good guy and didn't deserve his fate, but that's what happens when you fall into Lex's hands. I think more and more Clark understands he has to do something about Lex.

I think the writers need to interview people that have "killed in accident" or even when they had no choice, to get some idea about remorse.

[All about Clark]

^I'd rather not see precious moments waisted when it was clear to me that Clark had remorse.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by All about Clark
^I'd rather not see precious moments waisted when it was clear to me that Clark had remorse.

Personally I would like to see more precious moments of character development and less "soap opera drama".

Chances are YOU will get what you want.
:(

[j-kent]

I don't think Clark intentionally killed Wes. His intention was to disable his force field and in the process accidentally killed Wes. Without the force field Wes was a mere mortal- all that impact and he was done for sure. I don't think CK knew the extent of disabling his force field was going to go that far. For all we know, the plot hole made it necessary for Wes to die so that Lois could have a vengeance....

[Waylan37]

Clark shouldn't have remorse/guilt , because they shouldn't have had him kill someone in the first place.

I was willing to almost overlook Titan, because there they at least had Titan doing himself in by falling on his own spike ... ( it was still bad).

But having him kill Wes directly with one of his powers is not excusable. Superman doesn't kill people -> end of story. Doesn't matter if it is an arch-criminal, crazed lunatic, overlord alien invader, evil godlike being ... doesn't matter. Superman ...does... not ...kill.

The writers should be ashamed of themselves.

[smallvillefreak24]

it was defense i dont think he meant to kill him

[Krypton935]

I think it wa a bit of an accident but he knew he had to do it. I mean Clark is like the most powerful being on earth and Wes could take him down. He had to destroy him before he did anything bad. Besides Wes wasn't really even a person anymore he was an experiment he had no self control.

[foreversmallville]

Purely self-defense. Clark didn't mean to kill Wes...and when he looked on as Lois mourned Wes...he was sorry for what had happened.

[defga]

Considering that Wes was believed to be near invincible and as strong as Titan, I bet that Clark had no idea that it would kill him. He also had to break through the energy barrier, which was Wes' main protection, and once the beams got through, Clark couldn't stop them.

[LegendaryU2K]

I dont think clark had a choice. Clark is not a killer, rather it was in self defense. Could clark went another route and maybe found another way to put him down and not kill him?

Who knows, the storyline was finish.

[Seryna]

Originally posted by All about Clark
^I thought he did show remorse twice, first with Lois and how upset she was and later looking at his military profile. Clark knew he was a good guy and didn't deserve his fate, but that's what happens when you fall into Lex's hands. I think more and more Clark understands he has to do something about Lex.

I was surprised that Clark killed him so quickly. It was Clark gets punched- recalls Chloe's advice- superheat vision.

While Lois cried over his body, Clark looked on in remorse. He also seemed to be angry about the supersoldiers existance later.

Personally, I think the reference to 'Titan' means that Clark thought it was Kill or be Killed.

[HectorHall]

I'm not so sure Clark actually killed Wes. When Wes was lying on the floor, he was rambling some numbers... 5, 6, 18 etc. Maybe that was some sort of self-destruct sequence Wes initiated thinking it was the only way to keep Lois safe?

[Ania]

It was a murder and I didn't see ANY remorse. This character is not Clark Kent, it's some cheap emo kid with no morals whose idea of big feelings is to chase trampy wife of his ex-friend.

[Timester]

Clark Kent does not kill, not even in self-defense. Stop trying justifying something that is wrong (character wise, that is).

Clark did not even bleed fighting with Wes, so why many think that a knife would kill Clark?... Heck, I'm not even talking about the other abilities that he has, that could perfectly stop Wes.

[limi]

I agree with the many people who think Clark could have neutralized Wes without killing him. Wes might've have a bit of Titan's strength, but it wasn't enough to make Clark bleed like he did in combat, and none of his other abilities seemed like something that could be a threat to Clark. When he was invisible and Clark was looking around for him, I kept waiting for Clark to use x-ray vision to try to find him (like he did with that guy who used a special kind of roses to make himself invisible in order to get back at Lex for being mean to his sister - can't remember what episode it was, but it was probably in the first 2 seasons).

[wilder]

Originally posted by HectorHall
I'm not so sure Clark actually killed Wes. When Wes was lying on the floor, he was rambling some numbers... 5, 6, 18 etc. Maybe that was some sort of self-destruct sequence Wes initiated thinking it was the only way to keep Lois safe?

Very possible.


Originally posted by Ania
It was a murder and I didn't see ANY remorse. This character is not Clark Kent, it's some cheap emo kid with no morals whose idea of big feelings is to chase trampy wife of his ex-friend.

Too harsh. He is Clark Kent, young person with great resposibility. He isnt a hero yet, but teenager who is learning how to live. next time in the same situation he do his best to not kill.

And chasing wife of his ex-friend? He dont do that because he is jealous and make Lex suffer. He love her and want protect form what Lex become.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
self defense. He knows what Wes is capable of.
I agree it was just self defense nothing more and nothing less and he had to stop him before he killed Lous and probably him too if Wes had the chance as Lex personal killing bot!

[Timester]

Clark Kent does not kill, self-defense or not, young or not. "Oh, he is young and it was on self-defense...", what kind of BS argument is this? This is not Batman or Spider-Man. This is Year 6 of the supposed journey.

[Ania]

Originally posted by wilder
Too harsh. He is Clark Kent, young person with great resposibility. He isnt a hero yet, but teenager who is learning how to live.Does he have to learn how to feel remorse? How to think of the third way before killing someone thousands times weaker than him? He can learn how to type link into computer, but NOT to use his heart.


Originally posted by wilder
next time in the same situation he do his best to not kill.Yeah, right. He "accidentialy" kills all the time. And the next episode the sun is shining and all would be perfect if only Lana was in his bed.


Originally posted by wilder
And chasing wife of his ex-friend? He dont do that because he is jealous and make Lex suffer. He love her and want protect form what Lex become. Ahhh, he loves her. Well, that settles it, doesn't it?

A guy who beats his wife for merely looking at someone else does it for love too. A wife who cheats on his husband certainly loves the hot lover. A girl who can't leave her druggie boyfriend stays for love. Divorced guy stalking his ex-wife's new family does it for love. Jealous person kills "the other" for love. A pedophile who kidnaps young boys does it for "love". Young guy who spends the time of his life whining because he can't have married woman feels love. Homewreckers destroying families with kids do it for love.

They all need frickin' BRAIN too. One can't just randomly throw "LOVE" and believe like an emo kid that it will safe the world and make the other side of the argument see the light of universal butterfly farting true. There's a reason why Harlequin books don't earn Pullitzers.

[freefall]

I think Clark was simply trying to break into the force field first by using the enhanced heat vision, Chloe did inform him the only way the JL could stop the super soldier they encountered is to break through the force field using a blast or something. But as it turned out, Clark's heat vision went straight for Wes' heart as well. :\

I just wish he had shown more remorse at the end, like when he "accidentally" killed Titan, and I definitely wish there'd be a time when I don't have to make justifications and excuses for the way he uses his powers to take down the bad guys anymore.

[Lavenderrose73]

Ok First off, "kill Lois"??? What's up with that? She has a whole future with Superman! (or does Chloe go all "Lois Lane" and end up being the one who flies with Superman years later?). Second off, high school drama or not, I couldn't do without this, or Thomas Welling! <3 And a force field or something like that? I'm downloading the episode (or at least trying to), and I'll have to watch it again. I was kinda watching it and doing other things too.

P.S. They better pick it up. They have only one more chance this season! By the way, XRay, do you have anymore fanfics? I finished Crash days ago.

[MidgardDragon]

Mine is both "don't care" and an additional option: "other".

Clark stopped Wes with the only knowledge he had (the other Prototype was stopped by a mini-nuke). Wes was basically no longer human, and did not want to be Lex's drone anyways. And what information do we have showing that Clark even knew it would kill him? He did demonstrate strength equal to Clark's after all. Clark knew concentrated heat-vision would stop him, but did he know it would kill him? We don't really have the info to prove that one way or the other.

[Lavenderrose73]

Maybe not, but I'd rather think, as well, that Clark only intended to stop Wes. He would not use any force he didn't have to, and I was getting worried about Clark anyway.

[niki]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Mine is both "don't care" and an additional option: "other".

Clark stopped Wes with the only knowledge he had (the other Prototype was stopped by a mini-nuke). Wes was basically no longer human, and did not want to be Lex's drone anyways. And what information do we have showing that Clark even knew it would kill him? He did demonstrate strength equal to Clark's after all. Clark knew concentrated heat-vision would stop him, but did he know it would kill him? We don't really have the info to prove that one way or the other.

I agree, though I voted "It was an accident."
Given the knowledge that Clark had, I believe Clark was just trying to break down his defenses ... and probably to prevent himself from being punched, 'cause it looked like that hurt. Plus, Lois was in danger. He used one move, and it didn't kill him instantly. Wes was muttering a bunch of numbers and refused when Lois offered to get help and all that so ... I don't think it was Clark that really killed him.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

if we are all going to bash clark we shold all remember were clark came from

in VESSEL wen clark had lex/zod down in the floor in his loft with a knife at his throat brainiac said "lets see if you really are ur fathers son" refering to the fact that jor-el destroyed zods body

jor-el would never kill but look what he did with 1 of clarks loved 1's in RECKONING

clark had no choice he couldnt physcically get near wes wes's force field prevented any1 from getting close to him

no matter how much speed or strength clark has he couldnt physcailly break thru it so he sorted to heat-vision with the prior knowledge chloe had given him about the JL's battle

[Seryna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0BfuYIP8

I watched this again on Youtube to find some more insight- am I crazy, or does Clark looked shocked with the outcome of his heat vision?
I never noticed that before- it certainly leads in that while Vhloe said it needed nuclear to break though his shield, he didn't know it would kill Wes.

Besides the whole intense heat normally kills people.

[kazek]

Originally posted by Seryna
I watched this again on Youtube to find some more insight- am I crazy, or does Clark looked shocked with the outcome of his heat vision?
I never noticed that before- it certainly leads in that while Chloe said it needed nuclear to break though his shield, he didn't know it would kill Wes.

Besides the whole intense heat normally kills people.

Fine....

But ignorance has never been an excuse for anything especially for the man of steel..... He can't base his actions on ignorance....
And another thing is how did you expect him to react. Say if his intentions were to kill Wes, wouldn't he have reacted in the same way? I can bet that he would have looked just as shocked.....

So i dont think being shocked of the outcome of his heat vision cuts it.. Its still murder.....

[Ania]

Originally posted by Seryna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHc0BfuYIP8

I watched this again on Youtube to find some more insight- am I crazy, or does Clark looked shocked with the outcome of his heat vision?
I never noticed that before- it certainly leads in that while Vhloe said it needed nuclear to break though his shield, he didn't know it would kill Wes.

Besides the whole intense heat normally kills people. Shocked but shows no remorse?? What did he think when he killed him, "Wooow, I didn't know I kick a$$ so much"?

Why noone on Smallville ever takes responsibility for what they do?

[MidgardDragon]

Sometimes I think people forget this is just a freaking TV show. *sigh*

[redraven]

I voted it was an accident, because I doubt that Clark's intent was to kill him. And besides, it was self-defense...

[Timester]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Sometimes I think people forget this is just a freaking TV show. *sigh*

Sometimes I think people forget this is about Superman. *sigh*

[wilder]

You're right, but from what i know its not about Superman.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Timester
Sometimes I think people forget this is about Superman. *sigh*

Fortunately for those of us in reality, we know this is about Clark Kent before he becomes Superman.

ETA: And furthermore, his experiences, the things he's experiencing right now in Smallville, are what eventually make him Superman. I would expect Clark to have made some mistakes, some very big ones, before becoming the "symbol of Hope" that is Superman. For him not to have made those mistakes makes him cheap and a hypocrite.

And once again, TV SHOW!

[Timester]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
For him not to have made those mistakes makes him cheap and a hypocrite.

Uh? It makes him a hypocrite in doing the mistakes over and over. With which morality will he be the beacon of justice and morality when he did the exact thing that he is going to be against in future? It makes him the ultimate hypocrite.

[Mr.]

LOL
wow you all really got into it didnt you...hehehe w/e i still think CLark was jealous

Clark thought omg no you wont take another chick away from me again ...>.< jk jk
JUST KIDing!!

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I watched the show again on Sunday and at the scene where Wes becomes visible my wife turns to me and says " this would be so col if he super speeds/leaps at him"..
The Wes jumps at Clark and I say, "now would be cool to for him to jump and intercept Wes in mid-air"...

After the heat vision incident, he did show remorse, yes, not sure if because he fried Wes or because of how sad Lois was, I assume BOTH, nevertheless, the fact that the even my wife and I say "options" to use means they were there.

It certainly would have been better to see a little more action before he decided to "nuke" Wes.

But that's just me.

[All about Clark]

^What would be the point of fighting with someone while they had a force field you couldn't get through. His only option was to break the field with the only option/ability he had. Besides it was Wes who shut himself down when he was damaged because he didn't want to be used.

[wraith808]

Other.... because of budgetary constraints.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by All about Clark
^What would be the point of fighting with someone while they had a force field you couldn't get through. His only option was to break the field with the only option/ability he had. Besides it was Wes who shut himself down when he was damaged because he didn't want to be used.

How exactly do we know that Clark couldn't get through the force field ?
And even if he couldn't get "through" it, maybe he could still bounce Wes around like a rag doll.
My point is, they could have shown Clark trying other things, any thing at all.
They didn't.
No x-ray, no super hearing, no super breathe...nothing.

Lazy writing.

[All about Clark]

No, actually Clark specifically told Chloe he couldn't lay a hand on him. Clark couldn't make any impact on Wes while the force field was operating, that's why there couldn't have been a fight until the field was destroyed. You should rewatch it.

[wraith808]

^^ Agreed. That along with her account of the league's run-in with the other prototype in the desert would have given him enough information to know that standard operating procedure was out the door.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by All about Clark
No, actually Clark specifically told Chloe he couldn't lay a hand on him. Clark couldn't make any impact on Wes while the force field was operating, that's why there couldn't have been a fight until the field was destroyed. You should rewatch it.

I did, I just wanna know how he knew that considering the only time he came into contact with Wes was when Wes sucker-hit him.
As for the Justice League, Clark is way above them, they have nothing compared to him in their aresenal.

Of course, Clark is probably the last to realize this.

[All about Clark]

I thought Clark made a move on him in the barn, and then Wes hit him. He obviously felt he couldn't touch him or he wouldn't have told Chloe that.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by All about Clark
I thought Clark made a move on him in the barn, and then Wes hit him. He obviously felt he couldn't touch him or he wouldn't have told Chloe that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgQo6c4AAO4

Clark turns to look and Wes "sucker punches him in the chest".

[bluekryptonite8]

I know clark destroyed wes but wes wasnt human .. so its ok... beside Clark tells Martha that he well continue hes training and restore the fortress of solitude soon as he either capture or destroy anything thats bad or came out from the phantom zone.

Also have a question its way of what we are talking about Clark destroyed Fien but he was brainiac right so doesnt he have to come back or something?

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by bluekryptonite8
I know clark destroyed wes but wes wasnt human .. so its ok... beside Clark tells Martha that he well continue hes training and restore the fortress of solitude soon as he either capture or destroy anything thats bad or came out from the phantom zone.

Also have a question its way of what we are talking about Clark destroyed Fien but he was brainiac right so doesnt he have to come back or something?

There is so much wrong with what you just said, I don't know even where to start...

By the way, Clark isn't human either.

[freefall]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
How exactly do we know that Clark couldn't get through the force field ?
And even if he couldn't get "through" it, maybe he could still bounce Wes around like a rag doll.
My point is, they could have shown Clark trying other things, any thing at all.
They didn't.
No x-ray, no super hearing, no super breathe...nothing.

Lazy writing.

SDK clarified that he indeed has put in Clark tuning in his superhearing to find Wes in the script. It's the producers who didn't include it.

[bluekryptonite8]

I know Clark isnt human either but he wants to be known as one and he never want to kill a human NEVER, and I want u to explain what I said wrong beside I dont think Im wrong, cause its my opinion, that Clark Kill wes by accident but he had to stop him at all cost cause wes was really powerfull he said it himself he never had strong fight since Titan, Clark saw hes powers, he could superspeed,superstrenght, and turn invisible so I would of like a longer and better battle between them but Clark had to do it. Maybe I didnt explain my self right in the beggining!!!

All Im just saying it was Ok if Clark kill Wes By accident thats all.

[Lavenderrose73]

Originally posted by bluekryptonite8
I know Clark isnt human either but he wants to be known as one and he never want to kill a human NEVER, and I want u to explain what I said wrong beside I dont think Im wrong, cause its my opinion, that Clark Kill wes by accident but he had to stop him at all cost cause wes was really powerfull he said it himself he never had strong fight since Titan, Clark saw hes powers, he could superspeed,superstrenght, and turn invisible so I would of like a longer and better battle between them but Clark had to do it. Maybe I didnt explain my self right in the beggining!!!

All Im just saying it was Ok if Clark kill Wes By accident thats all.
Hey Bluekryp, for what it's worth, I find no fault in what you said, even if some of the stuff is a bit jumbled up about Clark, Wes, and even Fine. First off, while Wes was human, wasn't Lex using a phantom or something to get Wes to be as powerful as he was? I could be way out in left field though. Maybe I should go to Ares, download the last several eps of Season 6, and make a day of it tomorrow between studies, since I'm not feeling well anyway and should get some rest before World Lit on Thursday evening (don't worry, I'm not missin' Phantom; that's what the VCR's for ;) ). Anyway, what happened to Wes was terrible. I can understand where Kryptonian-Ronin is coming from about the "lazy writing." I guess it wasn't what Clark did as much as the lack of effort to try something else first? I was worried that Clark was going to get seriously hurt, but even I was surprised at how quickly it was done. Bluekryp, about Fine, yeah, he already made a comeback once so I can understand you wondering. I even wondered that when I read your posting...just seconds before I remembered Jor-El saying early on that in the process of destroying Fine the Fortress was also destroyed, so I don't think Fine will be coming back. Well, I'd watch Prototype right now, but I've got Christmas Day Syndrome with this piano learning software I just got and started getting into. Catch ya guys later. :)

[GooN]

dunno if this has been mentioned as there are a lot of comments to read through.....but i thought it was an accident because he didn't realise the strength he needed to use. He mentioned to Chloe that he had never experienced a hit like that since the last phantom zone convict, so maybe he put a little too much power into his attack..


Originally posted by bluekryptonite8
I know Clark isnt human either but he wants to be known as one and he never want to kill a human NEVER, and I want u to explain what I said wrong beside I dont think Im wrong, cause its my opinion, that Clark Kill wes by accident but he had to stop him at all cost cause wes was really powerfull he said it himself he never had strong fight since Titan, Clark saw hes powers, he could superspeed,superstrenght, and turn invisible so I would of like a longer and better battle between them but Clark had to do it. Maybe I didnt explain my self right in the beggining!!!

All Im just saying it was Ok if Clark kill Wes By accident thats all.

ah yes what he said almost... :D

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

You know, its NOT OK to kill someone, even by accident.
Its regretful, not ok.

[ox007]

What's so special about Clark/Superman is that he doesn't kill - never even by accident! And as far as I know he hasn't learned that by killing in the past ("Smallville") but his parents have tought him that - moral values etc.etc. That was CK's parents role!

[wraith808]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
You know, its NOT OK to kill someone, even by accident.
Its regretful, not ok.

Actually, yes it is. And sometimes necessary. If someone is trying to kill me, they lose their right to breathe the same air I am. And that's OK.

[Lavenderrose73]

Is it NOT ok to kill someone in enemy lines during a war, too, or for a police officer to kill a criminal who's threatened someone's life and it's the only way to stop him/her?

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

I didn't pick any of those. I think he killed him because he didn't want the 33.1 thing to continue successfully. otherwise it was an accident.

[Lavenderrose73]

Yeah, that's about where I'd be. Besides, Wes prefered to die anyway, so he wouldn't keep being used. As far as I'm concerned, the only one who's at fault (whether he actually did it or not) was Psychopath Luthor Jr.

[Mr.]

hehe it is funny how this thread started as a joke and it turned all serious :P
either way i like it :D

and keep posting :)

[Lavenderrose73]

BECAUSE OF LEX LUTHOR, Y'ALL!

[Digitalsteel]

Because once again, someone witnessed Clark "do his thing" so...........He had to die

[Lavenderrose73]

Not necessarily. The boy who could read minds found out Clark's secret, and so did the guy who lost his memory in Blank, and they didn't have to die. They both proved trustworthy with that information.

[happyending21]

clark did look surprised when wes was killed by the heat vision ...also the clois ahhh did you see the pain in his eye's when lois cried

[Lavenderrose73]

Pain, I don't know. Concern, definitely. Some people just don't give him enough (or any!) credit!