Almost Clana kiss

[Kid Collins]

Dammit can't Clark and Lana get any privacy!! :lol:

[LanaKent113]

I totally agree....they were soooo close!! Damn Lex, he has the worst timing, but those feelings between Clark and Lana are undeniable, they need to stop fighting it!! The marriage is a lie so let her have at it with Clark!!

[Mr.]

i was glad they didnt kiss
man, im tired of those predictable kissses -.-

[Kid Collins]

I hate that their scene got cut short just like they edited down the hug in Nemesis.

It was probably too hot and AlMiles might've thougth it inappropriate even though the Lexana marriage is a joke.


Clana can't catch a break!
:p

[SeaNymph]

I know...soooooo close.

[redraven]

I was waiting for someone to make a thread on this! :lol:

I loved the almost-kiss and I hate Lex a little more after seeing him interrupt the Clana moment. :p

[tmack09]

ALMOST CLANA KISS is right...SOOOO CLOSE DAMNIT!! LOL

[SmallvilleMan]

Eh, I was expecting less, but we did get the hand on cheek action.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by redraven
I was waiting for someone to make a thread on this! :lol:

I loved the almost-kiss and I hate Lex a little more after seeing him interrupt the Clana moment. :p

Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

[Kid Collins]

Well we did get the intense Clana stares.

I wanted more.

[DawnFire]

lol, I was holding my breath when it happened

But alas, Lex gets in the way once again :(

[HotStudsSuccess]

Well Lex and Lana are kind of married at the moment.

[bibi_sv___clana4ever]

Originally posted by tmack09
ALMOST CLANA KISS is right...SOOOO CLOSE DAMNIT!! LOL

:p

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Nospam
Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

It's more distressing that their kiss was interrupted. :lol:

[SmallvilleMan]

Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

Yeah and what a husband he is.......I hear he's up for husband of the yr:rolleyes: errrr.....I mean Worst husband of the yr.......Or was that lying scumbag of the yr? I got those two confused.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah and what a husband he is.......I hear he's up for husband of the yr:rolleyes: errrr.....I mean Worst husband of the yr.......Or was that lying scumbag of the yr? I got those two confused.

Then divorce him. Don't run around on him behind his back.

[redraven]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
It's more distressing that their kiss was interrupted. :lol:

I was just about to say that. :lol:

[monstra]

Originally posted by Nospam
Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

It is ;)

[SmallvilleMan]

Then divorce him. Don't run around on him behind his back.

Yes, divorce so he can know what's going on. That way you'll have no clue what Lex is doing and he'll be harder stop. Good point and then you can add the danger of him coming after Clark and or Chloe. Good plan:rolleyes: Sometimes morals and ethics need to be sacrificed. I find it funny people want to get all over on that fact, when she's the one who had her pregnancy faced. I think the expression is, "What goes around, comes around."

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Nospam
Then divorce him. Don't run around on him behind his back.

Lexana marriage is a joke.

It deserves to be treated like one.

[skylar]

Yeah ooh so close. My tv screen was fogging up with a almost Clana kiss

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by Nospam
Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

was this what lex meant about her trampy ways? :D

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
was this what lex meant about her trampy ways? :D

Lana married Lex under threat from Lionel.

Lex faked her pregnancy.

If Lana had her choice, she wouldn't be married and she'd be with Clark.

She's not running around chasing other dudes left and right. She's in love with Clark.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I find it funny people want to get all over on that fact, when she's the one who had her pregnancy faced. I think the expression is, "What goes around, comes around."

Or two wrongs don't make a right ;)

[SeaNymph]

Agreed, Kid Collins!

[SecretzNLyz15]

She got BLACKMAILED into marriage..there is no lost love there as it never was when those vows were said.

Lana CAN'T divorce Lex..if it was that easy..she would have done it already..I wouldn't be surprised if the two never even consummated the marriage. It's LIONEL that Lana is afraid of, not Lex.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
Or two wrongs don't make a right ;)

That's a moral judgement.

To me there's NOTHING to honor in the Lexana marriage.

heck I bet they didn't even consummate their marriage.

That calls for an annulment.

[Nospam]

Fine, Lana was "forced" into marriage. In my opinion she trapped herself. She pursued a relationship with Lex with the full knowledge that Clark and Chloe did not approve and it's her own bloody fault for getting herself INTO this mess. That doesn't excuse Lex's behavior in any way, but Lana put herself in harm's way and she has to deal with the consequences. Lana needs to learn personal responsibility.

That said, she should at least wait until the marriage is annuled or she has separated from Lex before pursuing Clark. And Clark should know better to start.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Nospam
Fine, Lana was "forced" into marriage. In my opinion she trapped herself though. She pursued a relationship with Lex with the full knowledge that Clark and Chloe did not approve. It's her own bloody fault for getting herself INTO this mess. That doesn't excuse Lex's behavior in any way, but Lana put herself in harm's way and she has to deal with the consequences. Lana needs to learn personal responsibility.

What do you think she's doing now? She's taking care of the mess she's in. Has asked Clark or Chloe to help her?



That said, she should at least wait until the marriage is annuled or she has separated from Lex before pursuing Clark. And Clark should know better to start.

Lana hasn't been pursuing Clark. It just happened that Clark sneaked into the mansion and things got a little heated and Clark tried to go in for a kiss.

[SecretzNLyz15]

So Lana deserves to be blackmailed for having a relationship with Lex? I'd understand if the blackmail was from Lex, but it's not. Lionel was the wild card and the blackmailer. How the hell would she see Lionel forcing her to marry Lex? She didn't trap herself, she was cornered.

Seeing as how Lana reacts around Lex..I would say that they are separated..Lex just doesn't know it yet.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Lana married Lex under threat from Lionel.

Lex faked her pregnancy.

If Lana had her choice, she wouldn't be married and she'd be with Clark.

She's not running around chasing other dudes left and right. She's in love with Clark.

But she still lived with Lex and had sex with him and agreed to marry him even before she was forced. She picked her man that's all there is to it and then tried to get out. She is in this mess because she can't tell who the good guy was after all.

Oh yes and Lex tells her the truth :rotfl:

[Khyla]

Clark! just do it with somebody else! anybody else! I don't care at this point! Just get over this Lana crap! I can't take the indigestion anymore! :mad:

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
But she still lived with Lex and had sex with him and agreed to marry him even before she was forced. She picked her man that's all there is to it and then tried to get out. She is in this mess because she can't tell who the good guy was after all.

Yeah, premarital sex gives Lex the go ahead to fake her marriage and for Lionel to threaten her with Clark's life if she doesn't marry his son. :rolleyes:

Lana made mistakes and she's learning from them. That's the important thing.


Oh yes and Lex tells her the truth :rotfl:

Just like Clark gave Lex the benefit of the doubt, Lana did also. And she got burnt by it.

[SmallvilleMan]

Fine, Lana was "forced" into marriage. In my opinion she trapped herself. She pursued a relationship with Lex with the full knowledge that Clark and Chloe did not approve and it's her own bloody fault for getting herself INTO this mess. That doesn't excuse Lex's behavior in any way, but Lana put herself in harm's way and she has to deal with the consequences. Lana needs to learn personal responsibility.

Oh well, the guy who just broke my heart and my best friend who keeps secrets from me, about the guy I love don't approve....I'm sure that would mean a lot to her, I'm sure it would mean a lot to anyone....Be serious. No, it isn't her fault for going into a relationship and not thinking that Lex would fake her pregnancy. Not even Clark or Chloe thought that was a possibility, so how could Lana? There's a difference between learning responsibility and losing your life. A big difference and Lana has taken responsibility upon herself, which is why she didn't let Clark help her.


But she still lived with Lex and had sex with him and agreed to marry him even before she was forced. She picked her man that's all there is to it and then tried to get out. She is in this mess because she can't tell who the good guy was after all.

No, she didn't pick her man(Clark broke up with her, some how this fact gets lost in the fray) and no, she had no problem telling who the good man was. She's always known Clark was good.

By the way, I love how ruthless people are. "You got yourself in this mess, so you deserve to die." Judge, jury and executionar, eh?

[Ilovebeinglost]

Don't worry about it. It will all be over next week and we won't have to discuss it any more.

we can talk about KK new movie with her real boyfriend

[SmallvilleMan]

Nah, we'll keep discussing it........And then we'll discuss it some more and then some more..........Then we'll discuss even more.:lol:

[SecretzNLyz15]

Why? That's not Smallville.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Oh well, the guy who just broke my heart and my best friend who keeps secrets from me, about the guy I love don't approve....I'm sure that would mean a lot to her, I'm sure it would mean a lot to anyone....Be serious. No, it isn't her fault for going into a relationship and not thinking that Lex would fake her pregnancy. Not even Clark or Chloe thought that was a possibility, so how could Lana? There's a difference between learning responsibility and losing your life. A big difference and Lana has taken responsibility upon herself, which is why she didn't let Clark help her.



No, she didn't pick her man(Clark broke up with her, some how this fact gets lost in the fray) and no, she had no problem telling who the good man was. She's always known Clark was good.

By the way, I love how ruthless people are. "You got yourself in this mess, so you deserve to die." Judge, jury and executionar, eh?

Yes Clark broke up with her because he doesn't trust her with the truth and of course she's such a falke she has to go off and have sex with the fisrt guy that crosses her path.

Didn't she tell Lex that she loves them both so how pathetic is that? I love you both but since you asked I chose you

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[SmallvilleMan]

That's right, please stay on topic or that's just spamming and spamming against the rules. Thanks;)


Yes Clark broke up with her because he doesn't trust her with the truth and of course she's such a falke she has to go off and have sex with the fisrt guy that crosses her path.

No actually he didn't and no she didn't.....


Didn't she tell Lex that she loves them both so how pathetic is that? I love you both but since you asked I chose you

It's acutally pretty simple:\

[ChlarkMe]

Disgusting.

Whether they like it or not she married the man and it is just worng.

[SecretzNLyz15]

She's BLACKMAILED! If someone blackmailed you..you would play the dutiful wife? ********

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by Nospam
Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

LOL. Exactly what I thought. I find it repulsive that they have Clark Kent kissing (Promise), almost kissing, mooning whatever over a married woman. Way to go Superman!

[SmallvilleMan]

She's BLACKMAILED! If someone blackmailed you..you would play the dutiful wife? ********

Course no one would......That's how I think of it, but people look at everything from the third party point of view or from their pure hate of Lana.

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
She's BLACKMAILED! If someone blackmailed you..you would play the dutiful wife? ********


It's not about duty, it's about the OATH taken before GOD. Isn't Superman honorable?

Still disgusting no matter if she's married or not.

[paolinki25]

Are you serious? I don't understand why the fact that the marriage is going awfully bad gives the wife/or husband an excuse to kiss and moon over somebody else. If you want to end the marriage, then you stop playing stupid games, especially with a man like Lex and get a freaking divorce so you can go and kiss all the guys you want.

As for Clark Kent, who is supposed to become Superman in the no so distant future to go around and kiss girls who are STILL married. It's wrong. Plain and simple.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Ahh..avoid the point and change the subject..nice.

[SmallvilleMan]

Still disgusting no matter if she's married or not.

Yep, my point exactly, you just dont like, because you're a chlark fan. Nothing to do with anything listed above.

[SecretzNLyz15]

So being blackmailed means she has to play the dutiful wife?

[SmallvilleMan]

Are you serious? I don't understand why the fact that the marriage is going awfully bad gives the wife/or husband an excuse to kiss and moon over somebody else. If you want to end the marriage, then you stop playing stupid games, especially with a man like Lex and get a freaking divorce so you can go and kiss all the guys you want.

Awfully bad? Awfully bad is fighting a lot or arguing. The marriage Lana's in, involved her husband faking her pregnancy and her being forced into the marriage, by threatening the life of someone she loves. As for her games, if it wasn't for Lana, NO ONE besides Lex would know about the phatom, one that Lionel is studying and im sure it will pay off. Lana's doing what's right and if she didn't, everyone would be in trouble right now.

[clark&lanafan06]

Originally posted by Nospam
Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

Lana is justified to kiss anyone she wants after what her a$$ of a husband did to her . Lex making her think she was pregnant was about as low as anyone can go . Plus she was basically forced into marrying him , so it's not like the marriage means anything to her it's just on paper .

[paolinki25]

To me, it means that Lana had to stop playing dangerous, stupid games. It means that from the moment she realized she had made a mistake and didn't love the man she married, she should have gotten a divorce, and move out of the house.

[SmallvilleMan]

To me, it means that Lana had to stop playing dangerous, stupid games. It means that from the moment she realized she had made a mistake and didn't love the man she married, she should have gotten a divorce, and move out of the house.

1. Lionel threatened her into a marriage and from what I've seen, that threat hasn't been lifted.

2. As I said above, if it wasn't for Lana, there would be a dangerous phatom that no one besides Lex would know about.

[Gspokesman]

*sigh* just can't catch a break

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by paolinki25
To me, it means that Lana had to stop playing dangerous, stupid games. It means that from the moment she realized she had made a mistake and didn't love the man she married, she should have gotten a divorce, and move out of the house.

You don't seem to get it do you? Lionel THREATENED her to marry Lex. Do you honestly think he'll let her get a divorce? NO.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by paolinki25
To me, it means that Lana had to stop playing dangerous, stupid games. It means that from the moment she realized she had made a mistake and didn't love the man she married, she should have gotten a divorce, and move out of the house.

She's protecting Clark remember?

[clark&lanafan06]

Originally posted by paolinki25
To me, it means that Lana had to stop playing dangerous, stupid games. It means that from the moment she realized she had made a mistake and didn't love the man she married, she should have gotten a divorce, and move out of the house.

HELLO ! What show have you been watching ? In case you haven't noticed she's backed into a corner , so it isn't has simple has you say it is .Lionel has her trapped , and Lex would never give her a divorce that easily .

[redkrypclark]

alright i think if you really analyze lana if she had her way she would be married. if you remember hydro she said when i was with clark i would have said yes in a heartbeat in reference to marriage. if you think back to promise clark was practicing his proposal on shelby. so if she had not been forced into the marriage with lionel she would have shown up to the barn with clark there ring in hand. who knows they may have even showed up to the funeral i mean wedding and clark could have asked lex to be his best man with his(family, friends, and buisness partners) there to watch his woman marry another man on their wedding day. now that would have been one heck of an episode.

[Dannyblue1]

Basically, what some people are saying here is, "If you're unhappy in your marriage, well, that's okay. You can always cheat."

To me, there are just no excuses. Yes, Lana is in a bad way. Yes, she (suddenly) doesn't love the man she married. Yes, she's (suddenly) been forced into the situation she walked into with her eyes wide open. Fine. Then she should try to deal with/get out of the situation the best she can. Until then, do the honorable thing, and wait until she's gotten out of the mess before moving on.

That's what it's about to me. Personal honor. Is it okay for me to do something morally questionable to someone because they are a bad guy? Not as far as I'm concerned, because that would kinda be sinking to their level.

That's basically what's being said here. Lex is a bad guy, so it's okay for Lana and Clark to sink towards his level, to abandon their principles. Lex is doing it so, hey, why don't they do it to?

Kinda doesn't make them any better than he is.

[ninthdegree]

I usually can't stand Clana because of it's predictability, but I have to admit that I kinda sorta maybe just a little bit enjoyed it this episode. It actually looks interesting and not so barf worthy, O.K. I'll cross back over from the dark side now :D but not before saying that yes, that almost kiss was rather sexy.

[paolinki25]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Basically, what some people are saying here is, "If you're unhappy in your marriage, well, that's okay. You can always cheat."

To me, there are just no excuses. Yes, Lana is in a bad way. Yes, she (suddenly) doesn't love the man she married. Yes, she's (suddenly) been forced into the situation she walked into with her eyes wide open. Fine. Then she should try to deal with/get out of the situation the best she can. Until then, do the honorable thing, and wait until she's gotten out of the mess before moving on.

That's what it's about to me. Personal honor. Is it okay for me to do something morally questionable to someone because they are a bad guy? Not as far as I'm concerned, because that would kinda be sinking to their level.

That's basically what's being said here. Lex is a bad guy, so it's okay for Lana and Clark to sink towards his level, to abandon their principles. Lex is doing it so, hey, why don't they do it to?

Kinda doesn't make them any better than he is.

I don't think I need to say anything more. You pretty much said it for me. :)

[redkrypclark]

see i dont get you lana haters had she been forced into this marriage like she had loving clark and still been faithful to only lex then she would be a slut. if she protects clark and can not find it in herself to love a man who has turned out to be the devil she is unhonorable. i too do not agree with being unfaithful in marriage but this appears to me to be a grey area.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Basically, what some people are saying here is, "If you're unhappy in your marriage, well, that's okay. You can always cheat."

If the marriage was great when they first got married and it went bad, I'll agree with you that Lana should leave Lex before going to Clark.

But Lana went into this marriage to protect Clark.

It was never meant to be.

To me there's nothing to honor in this marriage.

Lex even murdered the doctor on his wedding day.

[miks]

I'm tired of Clana...but I thought that was a good lead up to the finale and maybe her dying in that car crash! They can have that last little moment and then bam! she's gone :D

[redkrypclark]

she cant die if so what a waste from every time he ever saved her including jonathan kents death i think its more along the lines of the season 3 finale with chole maybe she is going into hiding from lex they can not kill her off not like that

[SecretzNLyz15]

Lana was BLACKMAILED..why should she play along nicely?

Lex was also aware of Lana still being in love with Clark..she told him that in Hydro. Lex went into the marriage knowing this as well.

Don't forget that, at the time, Lana was also thinking about the 'baby' and Lex took that as a guarantee that she'd go through with it. The whole thing came back and bit him in the ass.

[clark&lanafan06]

Originally posted by Nospam
Fine, Lana was "forced" into marriage. In my opinion she trapped herself. She pursued a relationship with Lex with the full knowledge that Clark and Chloe did not approve and it's her own bloody fault for getting herself INTO this mess. That doesn't excuse Lex's behavior in any way, but Lana put herself in harm's way and she has to deal with the consequences. Lana needs to learn personal responsibility.

That said, she should at least wait until the marriage is annuled or she has separated from Lex before pursuing Clark. And Clark should know better to start.

I agree with you that she shouldn't have have pursed a relationship with Lex . However at the time Clark and her weren't exactly on good terms so of course Lana didn't want to listen to what he had to say cause she was hurt and angry . Plus Lex has two different sides to him , he has the nice guy side when ever he's around Lana , and then when she turns her back he's a scum bag .

Lana has learned personal resonsibilty and she has shown that these past couple episodes . She has relised her mistake and she is trying to fix it . Also she's not asking Chloe or Clark for help , she's telling them to stay out of it because she knows it's her mistake to fix .

[jimmyolsenblues]

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[monstra]

I wanted them to kiss so bad.. :(

Guess we'll get our kissage in Phantom then, heh

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by monstra
I wanted them to kiss so bad.. :(

Guess we'll get our kissage in Phantom then, heh

I'm seriously Clana deprived.

But Lex isn't getting anything either and he's married to her!!

:lol:

[redkrypclark]

lol i did like that part lex has another evil day at the office he comes home puts the horns away and lights some candles and lana comes in and sees the pitchfork still in hand and turns him down.

[clark&lanafan06]

Originally posted by Dannyblue1
Basically, what some people are saying here is, "If you're unhappy in your marriage, well, that's okay. You can always cheat."

To me, there are just no excuses. Yes, Lana is in a bad way. Yes, she (suddenly) doesn't love the man she married. Yes, she's (suddenly) been forced into the situation she walked into with her eyes wide open. Fine. Then she should try to deal with/get out of the situation the best she can. Until then, do the honorable thing, and wait until she's gotten out of the mess before moving on.

That's what it's about to me. Personal honor. Is it okay for me to do something morally questionable to someone because they are a bad guy? Not as far as I'm concerned, because that would kinda be sinking to their level.

That's basically what's being said here. Lex is a bad guy, so it's okay for Lana and Clark to sink towards his level, to abandon their principles. Lex is doing it so, hey, why don't they do it to?

Kinda doesn't make them any better than he is.

First Lex made Lana think that she was pregnant and then he made her think she lost her child . She must have went through a lot of pain thinking she lost her baby . Lex stooped down to the lowest level . Lana has found out that Lex tricked her so now she hates his guts. Lionel has her trapped in a love less marrige , and Lex won't give her a divorce that easily , she's backed in a corner . The marrige is baically a joke , it means nothing to Lana it's only on paper . To me she is justify to do whatever she wants with Clark in the situation she is in.

[SmallvilleMan]

Basically, what some people are saying here is, "If you're unhappy in your marriage, well, that's okay. You can always cheat."

Yeah, it's just about being unhappy. It isn't like Lex left the tiolet seat up again.......You have to look at the situation.


To me, there are just no excuses. Yes, Lana is in a bad way. Yes, she (suddenly) doesn't love the man she married. Yes, she's (suddenly) been forced into the situation she walked into with her eyes wide open. Fine. Then she should try to deal with/get out of the situation the best she can. Until then, do the honorable thing, and wait until she's gotten out of the mess before moving on.

Suddenly?:lol: Yeah.......Do the honorable thing? What's honorable is helping yourself and the people around her. That's what she's doing. Oh and im still waiting for someone to defend the phatom argument I made, but wait....Lana did a good thing, so it must be ignored....


That's what it's about to me. Personal honor. Is it okay for me to do something morally questionable to someone because they are a bad guy? Not as far as I'm concerned, because that would kinda be sinking to their level.

Personal Honor is all about standing up for yourself and that's what she's doing.

[paolinki25]

Well, personally, I don't really care the way Lana acts. I stopped caring about her a long time ago. It's Clark's actions that I have a problem with.

[clark&lanafan06]

Originally posted by redkrypclark
lol i did like that part lex has another evil day at the office he comes home puts the horns away and lights some candles and lana comes in and sees the pitchfork still in hand and turns him down.

I like that part too . As soon as I seen it I thought 'She ain't gonna have sex with your dumba$$.' The look on Lex's face was so priceless when she turned him down . :lol: :D :lol:

[SmallvilleMan]

Well, personally, I don't really care the way Lana acts. I stopped caring about her a long time ago. It's Clark's actions that I have a problem with.

Ok, Clark knows she was forced into the marriage.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by paolinki25
It's Clark's actions that I have a problem with.
Which are what? Being in love with a woman who's in a very harmful marriage. Heaven forbid! :lol:

You should be disappointed in Clark if he turned a blind eye to the whole thing. THAT would be very un-superman like.


Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Ok, Clark knows she was forced into the marriage.

Let me quote this since it doesn't seem to be sinking in. :lol:

[paolinki25]

I don't have a problem whatsoever with Clark helping Lana get out of a destructive marriage. Heck, I don't have a problem if he helps her get away from Lex. That's a very Superman thing to do, helping others in danger. What I don't like is seeing Clark constantly pursuing a woman who's still married. I didn't like it "Promise", and I certainly don't like it now. That's just the way I see it. A matter of opinions, I guess.

[redkrypclark]

how does he not suspect anything i mean they havent slept together once since being married she hasnt even kissed him on the lips it has only been kisses on the cheek. he use to say that he gave lana so much credit for things and thought so highly of her was that just him being boastful in front of clark or does he honestly believe it. if he did he would suspect lana knew something like the truth about her pregnancy he would have to realize that something is wrong here and what could i have done to aggrivate my wife to the point where she can npt look at me.
ok heres the list since the marriage
1. killing the doctor on the wedding day - nah she couldnt know about that pops cleaned that up for me (speaking of which if lionel was a good guy who wanted lana to spy on lex why wouldnt he have just taken advantage of the corps and had lex thrown in jail giving him back luthorcorp because at this moment he and lana are not married)
2. faked a pregnancy
3. lied about it making my wife feel guilty about it
4. destroyed any and all proof of it
wait on second thought im not going to do this because this is a pretty long list now that i think about it i mean the whole senator, cover up with a soldier thing im really going to be here all day with chloe threats, shloes mom i mean really you get the point.

[CLanaF23]

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Originally posted by Nospam
Then divorce him. Don't run around on him behind his back.


Lana would divorce him but have yall forgot?? she is staying married to him to protect CLARK!!!!!!!!!!!!


Originally posted by Khyla
Clark! just do it with somebody else! anybody else! I don't care at this point! Just get over this Lana crap! I can't take the indigestion anymore! :mad:


dON'T HATE ON CLANA!!!!!! true love Never dies!!!

[SmallvilleMan]

I don't have a problem whatsoever with Clark helping Lana get out of a destructive marriage. Heck, I don't have a problem if he helps her get away from Lex. That's a very Superman thing to do, helping others in danger. What I don't like is seeing Clark constantly pursuing a woman who's still married. I didn't like it "Promise", and I certainly don't like it now. That's just the way I see it. A matter of opinions, I guess.

Constantly? He pursed her once before and during Promise and it wasn't even pursing. He wanted her to know the truth, he didn't break in there saying "I want you back". All he said was he couldn't let go thru it without knowing everything. And if i remember correctly, Clark did NOTHING, before he knew that Lana was still in love with him. Clark did nothing before Hydro and what Chloe told him about Lana still loving him.

[CLanaF23]

OMG i wanted them to kiss so bad!!!! i was like "damn" when lex came in..they whole conversation was like pulling at the heart strings...seein all da love there...

and i was wonderin..clark just like showed his speed to lana speeding in and out of her room..i was like what??? but she need to know anyways.

[miks]

it's not true love if he wont even tell her his secret, she's given him plenty of chances. The only reason i'm tired of clana is because every time they try and get together they sit there and yell and scream and say mean things to each other and then they break up and mope, then lana finds some new guy and clark gets upset and still tries to pursue her, then lana cant stand to be with the new guy because hes not clark kent, i'm sorry but after all of these years you are def. over him by now if you can sit there and date, marry, and sleep with other guys...then everything is okay again and all that matters is that they "love" each other, then the cycle starts again
just my opinion

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Constantly? He pursed her once before and during Promise and it wasn't even pursing. He wanted her to know the truth, he didn't break in there saying "I want you back". All he said was he couldn't let go thru it without knowing everything. And if i remember correctly, Clark did NOTHING, before he knew that Lana was still in love with him. Clark did nothing before Hydro and what Chloe told him about Lana still loving him.

Amen sista, amen!

Also Lana basically admitted it to him last week and in tonight's episode that she's unhappy and she's in the marriage due to not having any other choice.

Clark knows what Lex is capable of as well, so there's no need to even question Lana's motives as to why she's still in the marriage.

If it's about mortals, here's the thing... if any church knew the 411 about this marriage they would bless Lana's soul for dealing with it and would totally void the marriage without a second thought.

Lana has TWO things against this marriage, the fact she was forced into it and the fact Lex faked her pregnancy.

No church would approve of those things!

[SmallvilleMan]

Amen sista, amen

Brotha;)

[Dee]

Originally posted by Nospam
Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

Actually, I think its more distressing, when your husband drugs you to fake a pregnancy, and then makes it look like you had a miscarriage. Yeah, I would soo remain faithful to him.

[margroks]

I fail to see how Clark and Lana commiting adultery is hot or exciting. It makes Clark not heroic to paw or want to kiss another man's wife. This is not a good thing. It's indecent and the hero should not behave this way. It's one of the reasons Promise heralded to downfall of the show. Lana asked to be with Lex and it's way past time she lived with the consequences of her actions. She didn't have to get involved with Lex to begin with and she didn't have to say she wanted to marry him while dissing and being hateful to Clark.

She made her choice and Clark is very unheroic to do what he did, forgetting all about Lois for a moment becasue he was near Lana. What about that can possibly be acceptable? Nothing I can see. It trashes the hero's character. I don't understand why anyone wants to see that. I certainly don't and apparently, considering the ratings slip, a whole lot of people agree with me.

[friday]

Originally posted by margroks
I don't understand why anyone wants to see that. I certainly don't and apparently, considering the ratings slip, a whole lot of people agree with me.

:lol:

"Heroes" lost 3 million viewers after coming back from their six week hiatus. Every network lost viewers, not just Smallville.

Nice try. :lol:

[Rhoda123]

In a word: GAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[petewillreturn]

Originally posted by paolinki25
I don't have a problem whatsoever with Clark helping Lana get out of a destructive marriage. Heck, I don't have a problem if he helps her get away from Lex. That's a very Superman thing to do, helping others in danger. What I don't like is seeing Clark constantly pursuing a woman who's still married. I didn't like it "Promise", and I certainly don't like it now. That's just the way I see it. A matter of opinions, I guess.

I agree. But Clark’s goal was not to see Lana but to get information to save Lois. It is okay to get tempted into doing something but the main thing is Clark didn’t follow through. Yes they were interrupted by Lex but he didn’t hang out or come back. I thought the scene where Lana closed the window blinds said a lot. She knows she married and knows she loves Clark. She told Lex that she would never hurt the man she loves which is Clark. Lana seems to be growing up knowing love is more than a feeling. She closed the shades not wanting to let Clark in because they might kiss and knowing this would morally hurt Clark and that is something she does not want to do.

[jimmyolsenblues]

i guess what bothers me is that the writers tease us, they give us just enough of clark's relationships to either have us want us more until we are sick and can't take it.
clark had his chances and they are still teasing us with what he will do.
almost wish clark was more decisive.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by margroks
I fail to see how Clark and Lana commiting adultery is hot or exciting. It makes Clark not heroic to paw or want to kiss another man's wife. This is not a good thing. It's indecent and the hero should not behave this way. It's one of the reasons Promise heralded to downfall of the show. Lana asked to be with Lex and it's way past time she lived with the consequences of her actions. She didn't have to get involved with Lex to begin with and she didn't have to say she wanted to marry him while dissing and being hateful to Clark.

She made her choice and Clark is very unheroic to do what he did, forgetting all about Lois for a moment becasue he was near Lana. What about that can possibly be acceptable? Nothing I can see. It trashes the hero's character. I don't understand why anyone wants to see that. I certainly don't and apparently, considering the ratings slip, a whole lot of people agree with me.

God..it's like Blackmail means nothing..it's just another word for marriage or something.:rolleyes:

Lexana is NOT a marriage, rather an arrangement and HOW did Lana ask to be blackmailed to marrying Lex? It's not everyday that someone gets forced into marriage so it wasn't something she would be expecting. Clark didn't forget about Lois, he got a little info about Ares and then had a tender moment. He STILL doesn't know why she went through with the marriage AFTER telling him that she wasn't gonna do it. I think that earns the right to question such an action.

Clark having emotions makes him trashy? Newsflash: Heroes HAVE to have emotions like love, hate, despair otherwise they're just lifeless drones.

[darkkrypton81]

We've got six days and hopefully some resolution to all this.

[kryptonaidxh]

:) :o Actually it was almost adultery of Clark and the fool of Lana.
She married Lex, so she must live with the consecuences and Clark must forget her and move on, not kisssing another man´s wife, period.:p :)

[SmallvilleMan]

i guess what bothers me is that the writers tease us, they give us just enough of clark's relationships to either have us want us more until we are sick and can't take it.

There isn't much he can do right now, plus Chloe and Lana are pushing him to be patient. He does look like he's one second away from snapping and superspeeding in there and taking Lana away.

[paolinki25]

It's NOT a matter of Lexana being a real marriage or not. It's a matter of a man and woman taking vows before God, and Clark who's supposed to be a man of morals trying to kiss (FOR THE FREAKING SECOND TIME. In Promise, he was actually going to run away and propose to her AGAIN) her.

[friday]

Originally posted by paolinki25
It's NOT a matter of Lexana being a real marriage or not. It's a matter of a man and woman taking vows before God, and Clark who's supposed to be a man of morals trying to kiss (FOR THE FREAKING SECOND TIME. In Promise, he was actually going to run away and propose to her AGAIN) her.

Your going to bring God into this, He knows that Lana married Lex under duress. Her vows weren't sincere. God knows that Lana was motivated by her love for another man. :p

[paolinki25]

Why not? It's a marriage, isn't it? Or are we supposed to take it lightly all in sake of Clana?

[friday]

Originally posted by paolinki25
Why not? It's a marriage, isn't it? Or are we supposed to take it lightly all in sake of Clana?

We're suppose to take it lightly because vows weren't taken because of love. Everything that occurred to make this wedding happen was wrong!

[SecretzNLyz15]

The wedding wasn't sacred..it was arranged! Those vows spoken by Lana were only said because the MB was staring her down over Lex's shoulder the whole time.

It was a forced arrangement..NOT marriage.

[blaze88]

Originally posted by paolinki25
It's NOT a matter of Lexana being a real marriage or not. It's a matter of a man and woman taking vows before God, and Clark who's supposed to be a man of morals trying to kiss (FOR THE FREAKING SECOND TIME. In Promise, he was actually going to run away and propose to her AGAIN) her.

I'm not a Lana fan and she bothers me a lot of the time, but in this case I think the people against Lana aren't looking at the whole picture.

It IS a matter of Lexana being a real marriage or not because those vows made before God are what make a marriage, and hense being forced to take those vows makes them invalid. I will agree the way the writers have went about this situation has been bad, but thats because they wanted dramatic effect and the day of the wedding is the way its always done.

You always can change your mind about something before you do it, although i'll agree the sooner the better. Lana made mistakes by getting involved with Lex, but this doesn't mean she has to make even more. She is allowed to try and go back and get away from this bad situation she got herself into (because she hasn't made the final decision to marry yet), which is what she was going to do when she was getting out of the marriage, but she was forced into it still. The vows were completely insincere and forced so they are invalid and God would know this aswell if you want to look at it that way.

She told Clark she wasn't going to marry Lex and granted he had no proof she was forced, but he could tell and we know he was right about it.

The fact is Lana, as far as she knows, can't get out of this marriage yet because of Lionel's threat and based on the fact he is the one who probably had her shot she still thinks his threats are real. The marriage doesn't really exist becaue duress is grounds for annullment and anullment means there never was a marriage and since we know it was under duress from our perspective we should realize its not a marriage.

I will concede it would be better if she could get a proper annullment and then get with Clark but thats just not possible right now. Also its not like they are trying to hit it off anyways, this ep Clark went to see her about info not about their relationship as he even said when he came in. The fact that they still love each other can just get the best of them at times and you can't really blame them for that.

[SmallvilleMan]

It's NOT a matter of Lexana being a real marriage or not. It's a matter of a man and woman taking vows before God, and Clark who's supposed to be a man of morals trying to kiss (FOR THE FREAKING SECOND TIME. In Promise, he was actually going to run away and propose to her AGAIN) her.

And in the court of God, God would judge Lana on being forced into a marriage? I think not. Clark was going to purpose to her, AFTER she left Lex. Morals are just unwritten rules, they are not binding to anything.

[ClarksGal]

Look, neither one of them meant their vows. Lex may love Lana, but he certainly hasn't protected her, etc. The marriage is a sham. But that doesn't make it OK for Clark to hook up with Lana. I don't blame Lana as much, even though it is completely dishonest, but I just don't expect as much from Lana as I do from Clark. Clark is supposed to be the moral high ground. Clark was raised to believe that marriage is sacred, and he absolutely should not kiss another man's wife. That's not OK.

I don't have any problem with Clark trying to convince her to leave Lex. I would have a problem with it if Lex were a nice guy, but he's not, so I don't mind.. But trying to suck face with her while she's in her robe in their marital bedroom is not cool.

FEELING that he still loves her and she still loves him is fine, especially considering the circumstances. But acting on it is not fine.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Dammit can't Clark and Lana get any privacy!! :lol:

Ugh..they were so close! It upset me a little...

[svtwamedfan05]

I was freaking out. I was thinking to myself "Clark you better not" thank God for Lex he saved the day once again.

[kryptonaidxh]

Originally posted by svtwamedfan05
I was freaking out. I was thinking to myself "Clark you better not" thank God for Lex he saved the day once again.

:lol: Yes I agree, thanks to Lex that saved the episode, and thanks to Lionel that saved Clark of making the biggest mistake of his whole life and just to be content with the fool of Lana, Lionel was Clark´s hero!:D :)

[SecretzNLyz15]

Damn you Lex..you're not wanted anymore...leave >.<

[foreversmallville]

The almost kiss was hot...damn that bald-headed man for interferring yet again!!!!!

[Seryna]

Originally posted by Nospam
Yes, isn't it distressing when your husband interrupts your kissing another man?

It was so obvious that Lex knew he interupted something. Way to sell it Lana- check behind you to make sure your boyfriend is gone- before replying to him.

Smooth.

[Ania]

I think Lex should start looking under Lana's bed from time to time to check if his wife keeps there somebody. I can't believe he didn't think about it by now.

But then, Lana would throw a tantrum about secretly looking at her.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Ania
I think Lex should start looking under Lana's bed from time to time to check if his wife keeps there somebody. I can't believe he didn't think about it by now.

Clark was the one who visited Lana and initiated the kiss. And you blame Lana. typical. :lol:

[wilder]

Still Clana. Thanks to Lex for stoping this, but im affriad Clana is heart of SV more than ever.

[Ania]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Clark was the one who visited Lana and initiated the kiss. And you blame Lana. typical. :lol: You mistoook me for someone else. I only said that with Lana's attitude Lex should start checking Lana's bed for lovers.

[samanta]

Originally posted by Ania
You mistoook me for someone else. I only said that with Lana's attitude Lex should start checking Lana's bed for lovers. Lana has only two lovers in bed so far and she's 20 or more years old.

[darkone]

I'm not surprised the Chlark/Clois faction is playing morale apostle right now.Clark isnt kissing Chloe's or Lois' ass so he is an idiot and of course everything is Lana's fault. :lol:

Fact is Clark knows that something is up with the marriage aswell as Lana having feelings for him.He also knows how dangerous Lex is.The marriage ended as Lex pumped that shi* into Lana's body to make her believe she's pregnant.The moment Lex lied in front of god and all those people about honoring Lana no matter what made this marriage a farce.Lana pointed that clearly out in Nemesis.The reason she is and stays in this farce is obvious and there is absolutely nothing to respect about it.Clana could've screwed in the mansion with Lex in the next room and it'd be justified.

[Routh]

I'm not surprised the Chlark/Clois faction is playing morale apostle right now.Clark isnt kissing Chloe's or Lois' ass so he is an idiot and of course everything is Lana's fault.
It has nothing to do with Chlark/Clois. It has to do with the destruction of the character of Clark Kent/Superman. I'm glad to see that the "shipper jealousy" card is being played yet again, but it's just not true.

It's not justified, as much as you want them to be together. It's just not.

[darkone]

Originally posted by Routh
It has nothing to do with Chlark/Clois. It has to do with the destruction of the character of Clark Kent/Superman. I'm glad to see that the "shipper jealousy" card is being played yet again, but it's just not true.

It's not justified, as much as you want them to be together. It's just not.

I have to be clear here.I dont want to put all peeps throw into one pot.But I have a feeling at least 90% of those opinions in this thread/board are exactly about this thing.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Seryna
It was so obvious that Lex knew he interupted something. Way to sell it Lana- check behind you to make sure your boyfriend is gone- before replying to him.

Smooth.

Actually since she's on the second floor of the mansion..I would think that Lex wouldn't be suspicious unless he thought Clark could fly...or there was a tree that he climbed up:p

[darkone]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Actually since she's on the second floor of the mansion..I would think that Lex wouldn't be suspicious unless he thought Clark could fly...or there was a tree that he climbed up:p

lol with Lex' paranoia I wouldnt put it past him.

Back to topic... I think the whispering in that scene made it so hot ok that and the touching. :p
And for the antis who couldnt stand Prototype because of that almost kiss better get prepared because on May 17th Al/Miles drop the next Clana atombomb on you. :cool:

[Dee]

Originally posted by paolinki25
It's NOT a matter of Lexana being a real marriage or not. It's a matter of a man and woman taking vows before God, and Clark who's supposed to be a man of morals trying to kiss (FOR THE FREAKING SECOND TIME. In Promise, he was actually going to run away and propose to her AGAIN) her.

Would you have the same opinion if let's say Lois was put in Lana's situation? If Lois married Lex, in order to protect Clark, would it be okay for Clark to still look out for her well-being?

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by darkone


Back to topic... I think the whispering in that scene made it so hot ok that and the touching. :p
And for the antis who couldnt stand Prototype because of that almost kiss better get prepared because on May 17th Al/Miles drop the next Clana atombomb on you. :cool:

For me what made the scene hot was the touching and the eye contact between Clana. No other couple on SV can touch
the Clana stares.

a gif for anyone interested.

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5984/prototype1vy9.gif

[SecretzNLyz15]

Hey Thanks for that! I'll credit you for it when I use it ;)

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Hey Thanks for that! I'll credit you for it when I use it ;)

Yeah, no prob, go ahead and use it.

Glad you liked it. :)

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Lex is the reason they couldn't kiss.

I think what that scene basically showed is that they both know how they feel, but Lex is still the one that's standing between them.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Lex is always standing btw them...why doesn't he get that he's not wanted? Why is it so hard to understand?

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Lex is always standing btw them...why doesn't he get that he's not wanted? Why is it so hard to understand?

I don't think he really cares. As long as he gets what he wants.

[darkone]

I think at this point Lex is still arrogant enough to believe Lana has truly chosed him over Clark.Big mistake.
Oh Kid the gif is amazing.:) The way KK moves her head into TW's hand speaks volumes.Not as good as Nemesis but still very hot.

[Seryna]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Clark was the one who visited Lana and initiated the kiss. And you blame Lana. typical. :lol:

Perhaps its the way she keeps giving him signals. Feeling him up in Nemesis- kissing him in 'Promise'- oh, and saying she'd leave her husband for him.

'A change of heart' just doesn't cut it.

Either way its sliced, they are both wrong. Lana for pretending to or being duped into thinking she was carrying lex's baby- which hello- means theyw ere lovers- marrying him- kissing Clark on her wedding day.

Clark just needs a slap in the face to stop pursuing a married woman. When she's divorced, swing by where possible kisses may happen. Visiting her in the Luthor mansion to makeout with Mrs. Luthor?

The whole thing is sickening and has me symphatizing with the villan.
She deserves to be slapped next week- and so does Clark.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Seryna
Perhaps its the way she keeps giving him signals. Feeling him up in Nemesis- kissing him in 'Promise'- oh, and saying she'd leave her husband for him.

'A change of heart' just doesn't cut it.

Either way its sliced, they are both wrong. Lana for pretending to or being duped into thinking she was carrying lex's baby- which hello- means theyw ere lovers- marrying him- kissing Clark on her wedding day.

Clark just needs a slap in the face to stop pursuing a married woman. When she's divorced, swing by where possible kisses may happen. Visiting her in the Luthor mansion to makeout with Mrs. Luthor?

The whole thing is sickening and has me symphatizing with the villan.
She deserves to be slapped next week- and so does Clark.

I think someone should slap you. Lana is at fault for being deceived into a fake pregnancy? NO..Lex needs to get his ass beat down for thinking he can control everything when he can't.

Lana is throwing signs at Clark? Letting someone know that you care for them and throwing 'kiss me' signs are way different. If your parents are rubbing your back in a comforting action..are they trying to get you in the mood? NO.

Promise:
1.) Lana was going to LEAVE Lex, until Lionel blackmailed her.
2.) Lex wasn't Lana's husband at the time she kissed him.

Lana DOES care about Clark, but she hasn't started anything with Clark that constitutes cheating. She hugged him, there's nothing wrong with that. She touches his injured arm, is that supposed to be a sign saying 'Do me'? NO.

I get the vibe that you're one of the Lex sympathizers from the start. You're just using any type of Clana interaction to justify that.

There is NOTHING to sympathize about Lex. He had a bad childhood and his dad didn't show him any affection..boo hoo. That does not give him the right to fake a pregnancy. Everything that has happened to him, besides the Luthor childhood, has been karma from his own actions.

[Seryna]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
I think someone should slap you. Lana is at fault for being deceived into a fake pregnancy? NO..Lex needs to get his ass beat down for thinking he can control everything when he can't.

Lana is throwing signs at Clark? Letting someone know that you care for them and throwing 'kiss me' signs are way different. If your parents are rubbing your back in a comforting action..are they trying to get you in the mood? NO.

Promise:
1.) Lana was going to LEAVE Lex, until Lionel blackmailed her.
2.) Lex wasn't Lana's husband at the time she kissed him.

Lana DOES care about Clark, but she hasn't started anything with Clark that constitutes cheating. She hugged him, there's nothing wrong with that. She touches his injured arm, is that supposed to be a sign saying 'Do me'? NO.

I get the vibe that you're one of the Lex sympathizers from the start. You're just using any type of Clana interaction to justify that.

There is NOTHING to sympathize about Lex. He had a bad childhood and his dad didn't show him any affection..boo hoo. That does not give him the right to fake a pregnancy. Everything that has happened to him, besides the Luthor childhood, has been karma from his own actions.

Now, now SecretzNLyz15. We can debate as responsibile adults without threatening personal harm to each other, can't we?

Lets walk through this :
Lana is at fault for being deceived into a fake pregnancy?

If she was honestly decieved and married Lex to provide a better life for the baby, than thats the sacrifice of having a relationship.

NO..Lex needs to get his ass beat down for thinking he can control everything when he can't.
Yes, it was my theory that he harvested the baby and planted the miscariage story. Its a horrible thing to lie about, miscariage.

Lana is throwing signs at Clark? Letting someone know that you care for them and throwing 'kiss me' signs are way different. If your parents are rubbing your back in a comforting action..are they trying to get you in the mood? NO.

Lana cares for Clark in a platonic way, you are saying? In a nice friendly, 'hang in there' gesture to his chest?
Normally those are reserved to less personal places, like ones' arm or shoulder. The chest is usually a sensual place to be feeling up. From Clark's reaction to the touch, its obvious that he took it as a sign.


Promise:
1.) Lana was going to LEAVE Lex, until Lionel blackmailed her.
2.) Lex wasn't Lana's husband at the time she kissed him.

1) Lana had been going along with being Lex's fiance for some time. Making wedding plans, meeting with planners, sending out invitations, getting fitted for for a wedding dress...

If she was planning on leaving Lex on his wedding day, thats quite a cold and callus thing to do. Yes, hes' evil. Thats etched in stone.
However if she honestly wanted to be with Clark alone instead of keeping her options open, she could have left Lex at any time instead of enjoying the benefits of the mansion.

She didn't exactly sell hiding that letter very well, almost provoking Lionel.

2) You are right, he wasn't her husband. He was her fiance and her lover who has been supporting her for how long now?


I get the vibe that you're one of the Lex sympathizers from the start. You're just using any type of Clana interaction to justify that.

Well, wheres your proof of this? Have you been reading my 'Lex is so horrible to Chloe & her mother, such a horrid manipulator of Lana!' replies to past threads?

No. You just didn't like what I said about the Pretty Pink Princess and plucked up an excuse.

There is NOTHING to sympathize about Lex.

His wife is carrying on with another man under his roof. He may be an evil bastard- and looking at what he's done, I agree- theres no justification for the injustices he has subjected people to. However, a man has a certain expectation that his wife would respect him enough not to flirt with other men in his home.

Even a soulless bastard.

I'll be right there with you when he finally gets his, though- the preview looks like Clarks' going to give it to him good for manhandling Lana.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Seryna
Now, now SecretzNLyz15. We can debate as responsibile adults without threatening personal harm to each other, can't we?

Lets walk through this :
Lana is at fault for being deceived into a fake pregnancy?

If she was honestly decieved and married Lex to provide a better life for the baby, than thats the sacrifice of having a relationship.

NO..Lex needs to get his ass beat down for thinking he can control everything when he can't.
Yes, it was my theory that he harvested the baby and planted the miscariage story. Its a horrible thing to lie about, miscariage.

Lana is throwing signs at Clark? Letting someone know that you care for them and throwing 'kiss me' signs are way different. If your parents are rubbing your back in a comforting action..are they trying to get you in the mood? NO.

Lana cares for Clark in a platonic way, you are saying? In a nice friendly, 'hang in there' gesture to his chest?
Normally those are reserved to less personal places, like ones' arm or shoulder. The chest is usually a sensual place to be feeling up. From Clark's reaction to the touch, its obvious that he took it as a sign.


Promise:
1.) Lana was going to LEAVE Lex, until Lionel blackmailed her.
2.) Lex wasn't Lana's husband at the time she kissed him.

1) Lana had been going along with being Lex's fiance for some time. Making wedding plans, meeting with planners, sending out invitations, getting fitted for for a wedding dress...

If she was planning on leaving Lex on his wedding day, thats quite a cold and callus thing to do. Yes, hes' evil. Thats etched in stone.
However if she honestly wanted to be with Clark alone instead of keeping her options open, she could have left Lex at any time instead of enjoying the benefits of the mansion.

She didn't exactly sell hiding that letter very well, almost provoking Lionel.

2) You are right, he wasn't her husband. He was her fiance and her lover who has been supporting her for how long now?


I get the vibe that you're one of the Lex sympathizers from the start. You're just using any type of Clana interaction to justify that.

Well, wheres your proof of this? Have you been reading my 'Lex is so horrible to Chloe & her mother, such a horrid manipulator of Lana!' replies to past threads?

No. You just didn't like what I said about the Pretty Pink Princess and plucked up an excuse.

There is NOTHING to sympathize about Lex.

His wife is carrying on with another man under his roof. He may be an evil bastard- and looking at what he's done, I agree- theres no justification for the injustices he has subjected people to. However, a man has a certain expectation that his wife would respect him enough not to flirt with other men in his home.

Even a soulless bastard.

I'll be right there with you when he finally gets his, though- the preview looks like Clarks' going to give it to him good for manhandling Lana.

Now, now Seryna I didn't threaten to hit you, I just said that someone should, not technically me.

Now let me walk you through it:

If she was honestly decieved and married Lex to provide a better life for the baby, than thats the sacrifice of having a relationship.

So the fact that she was in a relationship with Lex means it's her fault that she was deceived by a fake pregnancy and shouldn't hold any grudges? She should just say "oh well" and continue on with life?

Yes, it was my theory that he harvested the baby and planted the miscariage story. Its a horrible thing to lie about, miscariage.

Good to know that we agree on a Lex ass-whooping.;)

Lana cares for Clark in a platonic way, you are saying? In a nice friendly, 'hang in there' gesture to his chest? Normally those are reserved to less personal places, like ones' arm or shoulder. The chest is usually a sensual place to be feeling up. From Clark's reaction to the touch, its obvious that he took it as a sign.


No, Lana does care for Clark in a more than platonic way, that's not in question. Lana already knows that Clark is suspicious about the marriage in the first place, so these little touches maybe a sign to Clark that she still cares about him, but it's NOT a sign saying 'kiss me' like you claim they are. The 'almost kiss' was a tender moment when they just reveled in their love for each other and Lana was NOT the one who moved in. When seeing these moments, you have to remember that Lana wants to give in fully, but CAN'T because of the blackmail.

1) Lana had been going along with being Lex's fiance for some time. Making wedding plans, meeting with planners, sending out invitations, getting fitted for for a wedding dress...

If she was planning on leaving Lex on his wedding day, thats quite a cold and callus thing to do. Yes, hes' evil. Thats etched in stone.
However if she honestly wanted to be with Clark alone instead of keeping her options open, she could have left Lex at any time instead of enjoying the benefits of the mansion.

She didn't exactly sell hiding that letter very well, almost provoking Lionel.

2) You are right, he wasn't her husband. He was her fiance and her lover who has been supporting her for how long now?


1.) Lana has also had doubts for as long or longer than the engagement and told Lex to his FACE that she still loves Clark. In all honesty, do you really think Lex would have let Lana leave him when she's 'pregnant' with his child? I have NO doubt that had Lana left Lex for Clark instead of marrying Lex, that Lex would have done something completely cruel and drastic to hurt them. Also she heard the convo between Chloe and Clark down in the cellar which included calling Lex a monster and Clark has been protecting her.

Lana was offered the right to stay at the mansion, in fact, Lana was only staying there until the dorms were rebuilt. She wasn't basking in the 'glory of the mansion', she mostly seen outside of the mansion, like the Talon or the DP.

That letter was not hidden because Lana left it there when Clark came in the room. That convo was interrupted by Lionel coming near the room, which took Lana's concentration off of the letter all together so..no..it was NOT left there to provoke Lionel.

2.) Lana is not a gold digger or anything like that. Lex wants to pamper Lana because she's 'pregnant' with his child. Lex wants to give Lana everything to make her never want to leave him. If she really was taking advantage of him, then she wouldn't still have her jeep, but rather an expensive european car like Lex drives.

Well, wheres your proof of this? Have you been reading my 'Lex is so horrible to Chloe & her mother, such a horrid manipulator of Lana!' replies to past threads?
No. You just didn't like what I said about the Pretty Pink Princess and plucked up an excuse.


I don't have any proof, but you did strike a nerve about saying you sympathize Lex and blame Lana for his actions. I'm sorry for rushing to conclusions.

His wife is carrying on with another man under his roof. He may be an evil bastard- and looking at what he's done, I agree- theres no justification for the injustices he has subjected people to. However, a man has a certain expectation that his wife would respect him enough not to flirt with other men in his home.

Even a soulless bastard.

I'll be right there with you when he finally gets his, though- the preview looks like Clarks' going to give it to him good for manhandling Lana.

His wife isn't doing anything under his roof. Talking to Clark does NOT justify cheating. Clark is the one who leaned in for a kiss, that never happened. When Clark and Lana go at it on Lex's office desk, then come talk to me about Lana carrying on under Lex's roof.

Clark better seriously beat Lex down for all the crap that he's done. Hopefully Lana will tell Clark about the fake pregnancy and the confrontational slap..that will get him all riled up:p

[msleggie]

Privacy?!?! With a married women, those two shouldn't have been that close anyway. Their kiss should have been interupted.

[SecretzNLyz15]

^^Ah, a blackmailed woman..I see no fault since nothing happened.

[kryptonaidxh]

Originally posted by msleggie
Privacy?!?! With a married women, those two shouldn't have been that close anyway. Their kiss should have been interupted.

That´s right, she is a married woman, no matter how and no matter the circunstances, it sucked from her! and also it was really awful from Clark.:( :o :p

[Zaine07]

I really dont like that part and lex showed up at the right time. I am so glad that they didnt kiss. All that clana drama needs to stop.

[Kid Collins]

Lexana is married according to the Law, but under the Laws of God, no way.

[Ania]

Originally posted by samanta
Lana has only two lovers in bed so far and she's 20 or more years old. And she used to kiss someone she wasn't curently dating for a long time now. Since she started sexula life I expect her behaviour may include sleeping behind his husband back too. Come on. You know Lana totally would. :lol:

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Ania
And she used to kiss someone she wasn't curently dating for a long time now.

Lana was UTI when she kissed Clark while dating someone else.

And before you throw the Promise kiss, Lana already made the decision to not marry Lex before she saw Clark.


Since she started sexula life I expect her behaviour may include sleeping behind his husband back too. Come on. You know Lana totally would. :lol:

Please go watch this scene again, she was shocked when she saw Clark in her bedroom. That's why Clark told her he wasn't there because of them but to get help for Lois.

[Ania]

Originally posted by darkone
I'm not surprised the Chlark/Clois faction is playing morale apostle right now.Clark isnt kissing Chloe's or Lois' ass so he is an idiot and of course everything is Lana's fault. :lol:So, is it Lois' or Chloe's fault that Lana is skanking around?


The marriage ended as Lex pumped that shi* into Lana's body to make her believe she's pregnant.The show lost what was left of its dignity the moment Lana's holy womb became the center plot of the season. Is it Lana's fault that the only way she matters on this show is who owns her vagina at the moment? Well, it's hard to say, because she can't even decide who to give it without somebody's help. If Lana lost her vagina she would lost the only reason to keep her on the show. No more aliens wanting to impregnate her, no more ancient conspiracies, no more drama for the hero, no more Earth-changing conflict between Lex and Clark. And no more Lana. But technically, you can't blame a table for being an object everyone uses at their will.


Originally posted by darkone
I have to be clear here.I dont want to put all peeps throw into one pot.But I have a feeling at least 90% of those opinions in this thread/board are exactly about this thing. I used to be a Clana shipper *sigh*
Now Lana is only a sex object. I could ship Clark with porno movie and it would be the same effect. Well, it is, if you take Lana's picture for the movie.


Originally posted by Dee
Would you have the same opinion if let's say Lois was put in Lana's situation? If Lois married Lex, in order to protect Clark, would it be okay for Clark to still look out for her well-being? Well, it depends. Would she spend couple of months telling Clark what a jealous loser he is? Would she jump to Lex's bed to make Clark suffer? Would she still spy on him, go through his stuff, threaten his freinds to know his secret? Would she belittle him each time he wants to help her? Would she lie to two guys about her feeling making both of them fight each other for her?

Because if she would, I would hate Lois too.


Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
I don't think he really cares. As long as he gets what he wants. Lex doesn't care? What show do you watch? Lex looses his mind and the sad thing is, it has nothing to do with what kind of person he is. He's just cursed to be with Lana who doesn't mind kissing around other people even when pregnant and married.

[darkone]

Originally posted by Ania
So, is it Lois' or Chloe's fault that Lana is skanking around?

The show lost what was left of its dignity the moment Lana's holy womb became the center plot of the season. Is it Lana's fault that the only way she matters on this show is who owns her vagina at the moment? Well, it's hard to say, because she can't even decide who to give it without somebody's help. If Lana lost her vagina she would lost the only reason to keep her on the show. No more aliens wanting to impregnate her, no more ancient conspiracies, no more drama for the hero, no more Earth-changing conflict between Lex and Clark. And no more Lana. But technically, you can't blame a table for being an object everyone uses at their will.

I used to be a Clana shipper *sigh*
Now Lana is only a sex object. I could ship Clark with porno movie and it would be the same effect. Well, it is, if you take Lana's picture for the movie.

1st Lana isnt skanking around
2nd I dont blame Lois or Chloe,I blame the hypocrisy of some Chlark/Clois shippers which is SO obvious with that marriage issue.And dare you to say otherwise cuz I dont believe it anyways.
3rd take away the computer from Chloe - she's worthless,take away the big lightswitch from Lois - viewers ask the question ummm what a character she's playing?Guess you see my point.

[Ania]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Lana was UTI when she kissed Clark while dating someone else.

And before you throw the Promise kiss, Lana already made the decision to not marry Lex before she saw Clark. What's UTI? Is that some kind of psychological analisys explaining why cheating is ok? Repeatedly? With couple of different guys?


Please go watch this scene again, she was shocked when she saw Clark in her bedroom. That's why Clark told her he wasn't there because of them but to get help for Lois. If someone appeared behind me in fort-knox like mansion you would be shocked too, believe me. I found it funny Clark had to start conversation with "It's not because of us!" Because it's like obvious that when someone creeps to your bedroom it means heavy action. And after they discussed little things like someone's life and military projects, and explained that they're not there to snog, they kissed... or would, if the dumb rich husband didn't come to his bedroom.

Clark is lucky to have super-speed, otherwise he'd have to hide under the bed like all human homewrecker lovers do :lol: If he wants to be a human so much, why not start from hiding from the husband under the bed?

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Originally posted by Ania
Lex doesn't care? What show do you watch? Lex looses his mind and the sad thing is, it has nothing to do with what kind of person he is. He's just cursed to be with Lana who doesn't mind kissing around other people even when pregnant and married.

I don't understand.

I didn't say anything about the kissing or the pregnancy. Which btw was never a real pregnancy.

All I said was that Lex doesn't care.

What was your arguement about?

[Ania]

Originally posted by darkone
1st Lana isnt skanking aroundHe didn't spend much time with Whitney, Adam, Jason, Clark and Lex while not considering snogging Clark, Adam or Lex at the same time. That's skanking.


2nd I dont blame Lois or Chloe,I blame the hypocrisy of some Chlark/Clois shippers which is SO obvious with that marriage issue.And dare you to say otherwise cuz I dont believe it anyways.Wel then there's no point in explaining this all over again :rotlf:

3rd take away the computer from Chloe - she's worthless,take away the big lightswitch from Lois - viewers ask the question ummm what a character she's playing?Guess you see my point. I agree about Chloe, though her informative role on the show is bigger than lending her womb to whoever is important at the moment. And she does have some other interesting plots, like Level 33.1, being meteor infected, working at Clark's future job, working for JL and having her own love plot.

"Lightswich" - a name given to "deveopment" of a character when the development is dreaded by the character haters, because it shows progression towards the iconic selfes of the pairing said haters, well, hate.


Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
I don't understand.

I didn't say anything about the kissing or the pregnancy. Which btw was never a real pregnancy.

All I said was that Lex doesn't care.

What was your arguement about? I say Lex does care. He faked the pregnancy because he cares. He have nightmares about the baby because he cares. We saw him suffering because of the pregnancy, because he cares. He had tears in his eyes because he cares. He asked Lana if wanted to leave him because he cares. He hates Clark because he cares about Lana cheating on him. He murdered the doctor because he cares. He makes her happy and freaks out when she's hurt because he cares.

What's your argument?

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Ania
He didn't spend much time with Whitney, Adam, Jason, Clark and Lex while not considering snogging Clark, Adam or Lex at the same time. That's skanking.



Yeah, but what counts is that Lana only had sex with Clark and Lex. Both in a committed relationship.

She's not going around banging everything that has a pulse.

She thinks about Clark while in those relationships, because she's always been in love with Clark, and Clark with her.

and UTI means Under the Influence

Lana made out with Clark in Nicodemus and Spell when she was Alpha Lana and Isobel.

[Ania]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
Yeah, but what counts is that Lana only had sex with Clark and Lex. Both in a committed relationship. Since she lost her virginity yes, she does sleep with everyone on her radar thinking of someone else. It happens to be only Clark and Lex, though she did insist on sex with Jason.


Originally posted by Kid Collins
She thinks about Clark while in those relationships, because she's always been in love with Clark, and Clark with her.It also explains why being in love with Clark and dating Whitney, Adam, Jason and Lex, sleeping with Lex and wanting to sleep with Jason is in fact skanking.


Originally posted by Kid Collins
and UTI means Under the Influence

Lana made out with Clark in Nicodemus and Spell when she was Alpha Lana and Isobel. And who was she when she slept with Lex and wanted to sleep with Jason and left his true love Clark for Jason, Adam, Whitnay and oh dear. Why do you even still argue about it? I can't understand it.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Originally posted by Ania
What's your argument?

I think Lex has become unstable and now does things without considering how it'll affect or hurt other people.

By my saying he doesn't care, that actually relates to alot of things, not just the situation with Clark and Lana.

Also. I came in a bit late. I'm not debating about this. I'm just trying to discuss it.

Maybe I should've read all the posts on this thread. But instead I just jumped in.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Ania
Since she lost her virginity yes, she does sleep with everyone on her radar thinking of someone else. It happens to be only Clark and Lex, though she did insist on sex with Jason.

She thougth she was in love with Jason. And she was also in a committed relationship with the dude for almost a year.


It also explains why being in love with Clark and dating Whitney, Adam, Jason and Lex, sleeping with Lex and wanting to sleep with Jason is in fact skanking.[/b]

Lana never physically cheated on her boyfriends while being in love with Clark.

That's not skanking. My definition of a skank must be different from yours.




And who was she when she slept with Lex and wanted to sleep with Jason and left his true love Clark for Jason, Adam, Whitnay and oh dear. Why do you even still argue about it? I can't understand it.

The only person Lana has loved is Clark. Lana never had feelings for Lex until the writers made Lana do a 180 in the 5th season.

[dcf]

You can't blame someone for being TEMPTED to do something. As long as they don't do it. Everyone is tempted to do bad things... if I had a boyfriend and a guy like Clark was hanging off me I'd be tempted too!

I am disturbed by some of the "morals" on this board. If a woman in real-life made a mistake and rebounded from the man who she loved and was practically the only person in the world she could trust-and he said he didn't love her anymore-and then some other guy came along and offered her everything would you hold it against her for getting into a relationship with him? Even if you knew it was wrong? Wouldn't you maybe understand why it would seem so comforting to her when she's heart-broken and alone?

And if that man then became abusive so she was afraid to leave him, would you just toss the issue aside and say "oh well, she asked for it".

Happens every day, not just with Lana but with women everywhere. And because Lex and Lionel managed to lie and force Lana into a marriage, should that mean it would be justified to have her stoned or punished for loving another man?

People are weak sometimes-everyone has their moments. If you had no family and no guidance, and everyone you loved hurt you, you might look past the faults of the man who offers you everything and seems to understand you too. Especially if nobody is willing to tell you why they hate him so much.

She has been emotionally abused, with the threats and the fake baby(which was also physical abuse by Lex-he drugged her and sent her to the hospital), and threatened and is just trying to find her way out. There is no reason to hate her. She is just human-she made a mistake.

Another disturbing thing is people thinking Lana deserves to be slapped by Lex. Yes, let's all cheer for spousal abuse because THAT is justified.

The marriage was a violation of her rights and not a marriage at all.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by dcf
You can't blame someone for being TEMPTED to do something. As long as they don't do it. Everyone is tempted to do bad things... if I had a boyfriend and a guy like Clark was hanging off me I'd be tempted too!

I am disturbed by some of the "morals" on this board. If a woman in real-life made a mistake and rebounded from the man who she loved and was practically the only person in the world she could trust-and he said he didn't love her anymore-and then some other guy came along and offered her everything would you hold it against her for getting into a relationship with him? Even if you knew it was wrong? Wouldn't you maybe understand why it would seem so comforting to her when she's heart-broken and alone?

And if that man then became abusive so she was afraid to leave him, would you just toss the issue aside and say "oh well, she asked for it".

Happens every day, not just with Lana but with women everywhere. And because Lex and Lionel managed to lie and force Lana into a marriage, should that mean it would be justified to have her stoned or punished for loving another man?

People are weak sometimes-everyone has their moments. If you had no family and no guidance, and everyone you loved hurt you, you might look past the faults of the man who offers you everything and seems to understand you too. Especially if nobody is willing to tell you why they hate him so much.

She has been emotionally abused, with the threats and the fake baby, and threatened and is just trying to find her way out. There is no reason to hate her. She is just human-she made a mistake.

Another disturbing thing is people thinking Lana deserves to be slapped by Lex. Yes, let's all cheer for spousal abuse because THAT is justified.

The marriage was a violation of her rights and not a marriage at all.

Beautiful. :cool:

[samanta]

Originally posted by Ania

And who was she when she slept with Lex and wanted to sleep with Jason and left his true love Clark for Jason, Adam, Whitnay and oh dear. Why do you even still argue about it? I can't understand it. Lana is bad because she had sex with 2 men and only thinking about sex when she was 18 years old. It's really immoral :rolleyes:. You realy have to hate Chloe for having sex in age of 16 and Lois for trying to have sex with Oliver after so short time.

[Timester]

Originally posted by dcf
You can't blame someone for being TEMPTED to do something. As long as they don't do it. Everyone is tempted to do bad things... if I had a boyfriend and a guy like Clark was hanging off me I'd be tempted too!

I am disturbed by some of the "morals" on this board. If a woman in real-life made a mistake and rebounded from the man who she loved and was practically the only person in the world she could trust-and he said he didn't love her anymore-and then some other guy came along and offered her everything would you hold it against her for getting into a relationship with him? Even if you knew it was wrong? Wouldn't you maybe understand why it would seem so comforting to her when she's heart-broken and alone?

And if that man then became abusive so she was afraid to leave him, would you just toss the issue aside and say "oh well, she asked for it".

Happens every day, not just with Lana but with women everywhere. And because Lex and Lionel managed to lie and force Lana into a marriage, should that mean it would be justified to have her stoned or punished for loving another man?

People are weak sometimes-everyone has their moments. If you had no family and no guidance, and everyone you loved hurt you, you might look past the faults of the man who offers you everything and seems to understand you too. Especially if nobody is willing to tell you why they hate him so much.

She has been emotionally abused, with the threats and the fake baby(which was also physical abuse by Lex-he drugged her and sent her to the hospital), and threatened and is just trying to find her way out. There is no reason to hate her. She is just human-she made a mistake.

Another disturbing thing is people thinking Lana deserves to be slapped by Lex. Yes, let's all cheer for spousal abuse because THAT is justified.

The marriage was a violation of her rights and not a marriage at all.


BUT we are talking about Clark Kent here. I don't care whoever Lana kisses or if she does the horizontal mambo with the entire Metropolis Sharks team and filming it to Lex see it later. I DO care that Clark Kent, the one that will uphold the torch of justice and morality, is willingly to break a moral vow.

She was blackmailed into the marriage... Last time I check, she IS working with Lionel and STAYING on the marriage just to spy on Lex. Even Chloe said it.

[dcf]

^^Nah, she's just doing what she can to help since she's STUCK in the marriage anyways-and it's a good thing cuz she was able to give Clark the info that led him to save his beloved future wife Lois. :p

[Timester]

Originally posted by dcf
^^Nah, she's just doing what she can to help since she's STUCK in the marriage anyways

Uh, she's not stuck. She can leave Lex whenever she wants, she is smart enough to do it (without talking about spoilers).

[dcf]

It's not like she's married to Jo-Shmoe the goofy plumber. She's married into the family of two criminal masterminds. You need time to plan these kinds of escapes.

[Timester]

Originally posted by dcf
It's not like she's married to Jo-Shmoe the goofy plumber. She's married into the family of two criminal masterminds. You need time to plan these kinds of escapes.

One is helping her, the other is a pussy that takes time to react and is distracted with 33.1...

[dcf]

lol well we're not sure where they stand with her - each one of them is just helping THEMSELVES so far as I'm concerned. And Lionel will only help her if it helps him-that remains to be seen.

[Timester]

Luthors backstabbing apart, this does not change the fact that Clark Kent wanted willingly to break a moral vow.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Timester
Uh, she's not stuck. She can leave Lex whenever she wants, she is smart enough to do it (without talking about spoilers).

Uh..yes she is stuck. Lionel isn't going to let his inside source leave. As far as she and the audience knows, the threat on Clark's life is still in effect.

[Timester]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Uh..yes she is stuck. Lionel isn't going to let his inside source leave. As far as she and the audience knows, the threat on Clark's life is still in effect.

No... She is working with Lionel since Nemesis.

[Vala]

They better bring me a Clana kiss next episode!!!

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Timester
No... She is working with Lionel since Nemesis.

AND at the end of Noir, Lana tells Chloe that it's not safe for Clark to know about her working FOR Lionel, which constitutes the blackmail.

[darkone]

Originally posted by Ania
He didn't spend much time with Whitney, Adam, Jason, Clark and Lex while not considering snogging Clark, Adam or Lex at the same time. That's skanking.

I think we have a different definition of skanking then.Btw last Episode we found out Lois came around alot in the military base guess she's a skank aswell.


Wel then there's no point in explaining this all over again :rotlf:

Yep no need to discuss it anymore you and some other haters are discovered. ;)


I agree about Chloe, though her informative role on the show is bigger than lending her womb to whoever is important at the moment. And she does have some other interesting plots, like Level 33.1, being meteor infected, working at Clark's future job, working for JL and having her own love plot.

I think you need to rewatch S6 again.Lana was involved in defeating Zod (while Lois was unconcious for most of the time).She was involved in the device plot.She learned Clark's secret this season and like her iconic self in the mythos she protects Clark.She's obviously involved in Project Ares.And since this was Lexana's season she had her storyline with Lex and the not!baby.I'd say this was Lana's season after all.Her arc was way more complex than Lois or Chloe's story as it should be as the female lead.

"Lightswich" - a name given to "deveopment" of a character when the development is dreaded by the character haters, because it shows progression towards the iconic selfes of the pairing said haters, well, hate.

So you wanna tell me you like those endless lightswitchs with Lois development?I think it belittles her character.She deserves better than this.And I dont dread Lois/Clois.I can live with the forshadowing but as it seems you cant deal with the present Clana love.

[Timester]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
AND at the end of Noir, Lana tells Chloe that it's not safe for Clark to know about her working FOR Lionel, which constitutes the blackmail.

But she is willingly working with Lionel, right? Even Lana admitted how easily she could tell everything to Martha.

[sierramoon131]

I think that once a guy tricks his girlfriend into being engaged because she believes she's pregnant with his child when actually he's concocted an evil hormone scheme, gives her a precious nursery to woo her maternal instincts to the point she marries him (Lionel or no Lionel), he loses his "I'm the husband" rights.

Besides . . . it IS Tom Welling.

The cheek thing . . . guys out there take notice. THAT really gets to a girl.

[Ania]

Originally posted by dcf
You can't blame someone for being TEMPTED to do something. As long as they don't do it.Tempted? It's not me who says they'd kiss if not elope like bunnies if only Lana's husband didn't interrupt them.


Originally posted by darkone
I think you need to rewatch S6 again.Lana was involved in defeating Zod (while Lois was unconcious for most of the time).Big Bad Alien wants to impregnate me. Me don't want.

It's not a plot, it's AlMiles' wet fantasy.


Originally posted by darkone
She was involved in the device plot.Super-Sikrit Alien Device of Mass Human Destruction or me! Choose, Mr Luthor!


Originally posted by darkone
She learned Clark's secret this season and like her iconic self in the mythos she protects Clark.Now I want to see her eloping with Pete and catfighting Lois and I'll be fine with her "iconic" development.


Originally posted by darkone
She's obviously involved in Project Ares.Now I think about it she doesn't have SLIGHTEST idea what Ares is about. Nor she even tried to ask if you don't count random eavesdropping.


Originally posted by darkone
And since this was Lexana's season she had her storyline with Lex and the not!baby.Called also Lana's Womb Drama.


Originally posted by darkone
I'd say this was Lana's season after all.Her arc was way more complex than Lois or Chloe's story as it should be as the female lead.I think by "complex" you mean switching on and off about alien/freak/weapon/Lex/baby responsibility/spying issues. My word for it would be "convulted" though.


Originally posted by darkone
So you wanna tell me you like those endless lightswitchs with Lois development?I swear I have no idea where you people get the idea of Lois "lightswitching". She developed from no interest in journalism to enjoying school investigating (love potion episode) to enjoying digging misteries and posting it anywhere (like Green Arrow) to digging misteries and having them heard (when she understood her Inquisitor post is not enough to stop Lex and Burke). Lois's development is actually one of the best on this show. Compare it to Whimpy/Murderous Lex, Good/Bad Lionel, Moral/Luthor dating Martha, or Clark who didn't learn to fly, stopped education, ignores Jor-El for whole six years. Only Chloe managed to develop better than Lois and ONLY if you don't mind her pining for Clark while dating Jimmy.


Originally posted by darkone
I can live with the forshadowing but as it seems you cant deal with the present Clana love. I can live with no Clois, but Clana erm, "love", makes me sick.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Timester
But she is willingly working with Lionel, right? Even Lana admitted how easily she could tell everything to Martha.

I'm sure Lana would easily tell Martha about Lionel's threat, BUT she can't. She tried to threaten Lionel into submission and it didn't work. Maybe there is a new deal involved between those too after the hospital scene. Maybe Lionel said that he would help her out of the marriage IF she helps him about the Ares Project.


Originally posted by Ania
Tempted? It's not me who says they'd kiss if not elope like bunnies if only Lana's husband didn't interrupt them.

Big Bad Alien wants to impregnate me. Me don't want.

It's not a plot, it's AlMiles' wet fantasy.

Super-Sikrit Alien Device of Mass Human Destruction or me! Choose, Mr Luthor!

Now I want to see her eloping with Pete and catfighting Lois and I'll be fine with her "iconic" development.

Now I think about it she doesn't have SLIGHTEST idea what Ares is about. Nor she even tried to ask if you don't count random eavesdropping.

Called also Lana's Womb Drama.

I think by "complex" you mean switching on and off about alien/freak/weapon/Lex/baby responsibility/spying issues. My word for it would be "convulted" though.

I swear I have no idea where you people get the idea of Lois "lightswitching". She developed from no interest in journalism to enjoying school investigating (love potion episode) to enjoying digging misteries and posting it anywhere (like Green Arrow) to digging misteries and having them heard (when she understood her Inquisitor post is not enough to stop Lex and Burke). Lois's development is actually one of the best on this show. Compare it to Whimpy/Murderous Lex, Good/Bad Lionel, Moral/Luthor dating Martha, or Clark who didn't learn to fly, stopped education, ignores Jor-El for whole six years. Only Chloe managed to develop better than Lois and ONLY if you don't mind her pining for Clark while dating Jimmy.

I can live with no Clois, but Clana erm, "love", makes me sick.

You are nothing but a hater that argues about nothing that holds merit and you clearly exaggerate things too much.:cool:

[redraven]

Originally posted by Ania
Since she lost her virginity yes, she does sleep with everyone on her radar thinking of someone else. It happens to be only Clark and Lex, though she did insist on sex with Jason.

Wow...I just had to reply to this, even though it's obvious that I won't be able to reason with you.

Lana doesn't sleep with everyone on her radar; she's only slept with Lex and Clark, and she was in a commited relationship with them when she did.


It also explains why being in love with Clark and dating Whitney, Adam, Jason and Lex, sleeping with Lex and wanting to sleep with Jason is in fact skanking.

And who was she when she slept with Lex and wanted to sleep with Jason and left his true love Clark for Jason, Adam, Whitnay and oh dear. Why do you even still argue about it? I can't understand it.

Um...Lana dated Whitney BEFORE anything happened between her and Clark (didn't/couldn't date Whitney after she dated Clark because he died), I don't recall Lana ever dating Adam, and she only dated Lex and Jason AFTER Clark broke up with her: Not skanking.

[Luthorism]

Thank God it didn't happen! Then we would have to wait for them to come together and then break up again for 2 more seasons.

[SecretzNLyz15]

^^That's ok..we'll get something even better in Phantom ;)

[Ania]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
You are nothing but a hater that argues about nothing that holds merit and you clearly exaggerate things too much.:cool: Wow, that was devastating argument. I wish I had your power of reasoning :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Originally posted by redraven
Um...Lana dated Whitney BEFORE anything happened between her and Clark (didn't/couldn't date Whitney after she dated Clark because he died), I don't recall Lana ever dating Adam, and she only dated Lex and Jason AFTER Clark broke up with her: Not skanking. Why the stupid and angsty argument that holy Lana has always and always loved Clark and it's destiny, huh?

I complaiin that the whole Clana mythology collapses under hint of logic.

[SecretzNLyz15]

^^That wasn't an argument, just a statement. Why should I waste my time trying to reason with someone who has no reasoning?:lol:

[Ania]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
^^That's ok..we'll get something even better in Phantom ;) Yeah... Lana blowing up, here I come! :D

[SecretzNLyz15]

Ha! Fake death set up, here I come! ;)

[Ania]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
^^That wasn't an argument, just a statement. Why should I waste my time trying to reason with someone who has no reasoning?:lol: I posted my reasoning and not going to repeat everything for people who are capable of nothing more than "you hater". So thanks for erm, "participating" :)


Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Ha! Fake death set up, here I come! ;) Let me cherish the moment will you? I know the resurrection of the Lana will come as usually (hopefully not by killing someone else this time)

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Ania
I posted my reasoning and not going to repeat everything for people who are capable of nothing more than "you hater". So thanks for erm, "participating" :)

You don't have any reasoning. All you say is Lana is skank-whore who sleeps with everyone on her radar which is ******** because you have nothing to back it up. Where is your reasoning? I've been here for the past ten pages and I've seen your posts, but I haven't seen any proof.


Originally posted by Ania
Let me cherish the moment will you? I know the resurrection of the Lana will come as usually (hopefully not by killing someone else this time)

Nah..truth hurts.:D

[Ania]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
You don't have any reasoning. All you say is Lana is skank-whore who sleeps with everyone on her radar which is ******** because you have nothing to back it up. Where is your reasoning? I've been here for the past ten pages and I've seen your posts, but I haven't seen any proof. Well, I mentioned a lot of names in various order with couple physical actions. That was to explain my feeling about Lana.

The reasoning you ignored was the one about Lana's so called plots. I explained why I can't see Lana involved in ANY (this season) that is not about who she sleeps with. Now I assume you just can't find contr-arguments (which is obvious, but no need to throw insults, even if I understand it's natural reaction when you don't have other means of defense).


Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Nah..truth hurts.:D Yeah. I don't even want to know who will bite the dust to save the Lana and be forgotten by the end of the episode.

[samanta]

Originally posted by Ania
I explained why I can't see Lana involved in ANY (this season) that is not about who she sleeps with. So she is like Mata Hari? Important person who is spying on someone? It's not so bad.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Ania
Well, I mentioned a lot of names in various order with couple physical actions. That was to explain my feeling about Lana.

The reasoning you ignored was the one about Lana's so called plots. I explained why I can't see Lana involved in ANY (this season) that is not about who she sleeps with. Now I assume you just can't find contr-arguments (which is obvious, but no need to throw insults, even if I understand it's natural reaction when you don't have other means of defense).

What are you talking about? All those names you threw out don't mean anything to your argument.

Whitney-Lana's first boyfriend. She didn't cheat on him so she wasn't skanking.

Adam-Lana didn't even date the guy so she wasn't skanking.

Jason-Lana's semi-serious boyfriend that she had for 3+ months. That relationship was already over before Lana kissed Clark in the finale so she wasn't skanking.

Lex-That relationship was pretty serious. Lana was heartbroken and Lex was there to move in after Clana broke up. Lana didn't skank around on him either.

For the record, I didn't throw any insults at you and now you are the one getting ignorant in your defense.

This season?

This season was a continuation from last season. I'll admit the baby plot was the dumbest thing next to the exploding baby plot, but it was used to show how far Lex would deceive to get what he wants.

Lana is a MAJOR character in the triangle..whether you like it or not. The Lexana relationship helped the character growth for both Lex and Lana. Lex is becoming the evil bastard he was supposed to be and Lana knows the dangers of Lex and she now knows Clark's secret. This move will move her into the Iconic Lana Lang that is Superman's/Clark's confidant in the future.

[Timester]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
For the record, I didn't throw any insults at you and now you are the one getting ignorant in your defense.

And you are starting to break the rules.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Timester
And you are starting to break the rules.

How so?

[darkone]

Originally posted by Timester
And you are starting to break the rules.

So does you.Playing moderator is against the rules.

[Timester]

Originally posted by darkone
So does you.Playing moderator is against the rules.

12) Leave the moderating to the actual Moderators. DO NOT attempt to "put another poster in his/her place." A gentle one-time reminder of the rules is fine, and we appreciate the spirit of this board where so many people rush to help newbies out. However, if there is a troll in the forums or a problem poster, we prefer that you use the Report Post link or notify a Moderator.


People never understand reminding the rules now and then is actually to avoid future confusions and help the others.

[Seryna]

Originally posted by Timester
BUT we are talking about Clark Kent here. I don't care whoever Lana kisses or if she does the horizontal mambo with the entire Metropolis Sharks team and filming it to Lex see it later. I DO care that Clark Kent, the one that will uphold the torch of justice and morality, is willingly to break a moral vow.

She was blackmailed into the marriage... Last time I check, she IS working with Lionel and STAYING on the marriage just to spy on Lex. Even Chloe said it.

I agree with that.

However Lana got into the marriage- to be a mole, to protect Clark, whatever- shes' staying after its clear her gig is up & her womb was used as a battleground.

Personally, I think any self respecting woman would have kicked Lex in the groin and get an independent divorce lawyer.

Clark knows whats up now, Chloe does- Lionel knows Lana betrayed him- Lex is the only dangerous non informed male in Lana's life- and now, in the preview for next week, she leaves Lex once her mess was discovered.

Either way, I could care less about Lana Lang-Luthor except for the fact that I have to watch Clark break every shred of morality, decency & common sense to be with her/ protect her.
Chloe is a road map, Lionel is an enemy- while hes' been helpful in the pas- because the Pretty Pink Princess chose this week to bat her eyes at Clark.

Clex & Clana shippers all have thier good points, but Clana is annoying and spineless IMO.

[redraven]

Originally posted by Ania
Why the stupid and angsty argument that holy Lana has always and always loved Clark and it's destiny, huh?

.....I never said anything like that. All I did was reply to your 'argument' about Lana skanking around and being a whore; I never said one word about 'holy Lana', or her loving, and always loving Clark and his destiny.

So yeah, obviously you have nothing meaningful to say so you just say random crap to attack me. Nice. :rolleyes:

[boingo]

She was blackmailed into the marriage... Last time I check, she IS working with Lionel and STAYING on the marriage just to spy on Lex. Even Chloe said it....

Lana is still under Lionel's blackmail....that has not changed. It was made clear in "Noir" when Lana was going to turn in the info she uncovered to the press....in hopes of "getting over from under THEM"[Luthors].< Lana to chloe

As far as the almost Clark and Lana kiss....I really enjoyed it...but I always enjoy their scenes together...Tom and Kristin do an amazing job conveying so much emotion with so little dialougue like in this one scene.... It is simply amazing to watch (for me anyway)...I can't wait until it is all out in the open...these little and very brief scenes between them are seriously depressing me lol I just want to see them smiling once again (it has been too long)...

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by redraven
.....I never said anything like that. All I did was reply to your 'argument' about Lana skanking around and being a whore; I never said one word about 'holy Lana', or her loving, and always loving Clark and his destiny.

So yeah, obviously you have nothing meaningful to say so you just say random crap to attack me. Nice. :rolleyes:

Don't even waste your time trying to reason with her. Just agree to disagree because this will go on forever.:rolleyes:

Timester, I'm still waiting on you to tell me how I was breaking rules. What you should be doing is redirecting that warning to Seryna for bashing Clana like that. I read the rules..that's breaking them.:cool:

[Seryna]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Don't even waste your time trying to reason with her. Just agree to disagree because this will go on forever.:rolleyes:

Timester, I'm still waiting on you to tell me how I was breaking rules. What you should be doing is redirecting that warning to Seryna for bashing Clana like that. I read the rules..that's breaking them.:cool:


Come on, now. I was enjoying a nice debate- which SecretzNLyz15 was fun for, as we could debate points without threatening to sic moderators on each other.

Lets get it back on the subject of the Clana kiss- Lana being or not being a whore is really a side point.

I also read the rules, and theres nothing about Ships, etc. How is not likeing Clana breaking rules?

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Seryna
Come on, now. I was enjoying a nice debate- which SecretzNLyz15 was fun for, as we could debate points without threatening to sic moderators on each other.

Lets get it back on the subject of the Clana kiss- Lana being or not being a whore is really a side point.

I also read the rules, and theres nothing about Ships, etc. How is not likeing Clana breaking rules?

Come now Seryna, my post wasn't directed at you, rather at another poster who was acting childish with no reasoning.

You can't full out bash ships. You can generally make it known that you don't like a ship, but calling Clana annoying and spineless is uncalled for.:cool:

[Seryna]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Come now Seryna, my post wasn't directed at you, rather at another poster who was acting childish with no reasoning.

You can't full out bash ships. You can generally make it known that you don't like a ship, but calling Clana annoying and spineless is uncalled for.:cool:

I see nothing in the Rules pertaining about ships at all. Where are you seeing this?

The thread is about a Clana kiss and naturally invites conversation & debate on the ship itself. One can not help if they find a ship more annoying & spineless than another.


- Insulting fans of a character, ship, or differing viewpoint, including couched insults hidden behind jokes, sarcasm, silly banter, or Emoticons

Based on this, most Ship Supporters posting here (Clana, Chlark & Clex coming to mind) have broken the rules already.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Seryna
I see nothing in the Rules pertaining about ships at all. Where are you seeing this?

The thread is about a Clana kiss and naturally invites conversation & debate on the ship itself. One can not help if they find a ship more annoying & spineless than another.



Based on this, most Ship Supporters posting here (Clana, Chlark & Clex coming to mind) have broken the rules already.

I know we've all pretty much broken the rules, but I was just getting all moderator with Timester since he called me out..it was a joke.:cool:

[Absentee]

I think the person who wrote this episode, SDK, would better answer all this nonsense about the "immorality" issue of that almost kiss since you're all so bent out of shape over it.

This is taken from his blog:


"You know, I have a completely different view of that moment. First, of course, this is Clark Kent, not Superman. Second, I have a very strong sense of fidelity, but if the woman I loved was married to Hitler-in-trainer, all bets would be off. But again, that's just me. And don't forget that Clark strongly suspects tht Lana was forced into this loveless marriage. It's a verrrrry grey area, even for a future hero."

More:


"Yes, Superman and Clark Kent are the same person, but on Smallville there is no Superman yet. Clark is building up to being a true hero (too slowly for most, believe me, I know) and strapping on that cape, but for now he's a young man figuring out life. He'll make mistakes in love just like we all have.

As for Clark and Lana, he knows she's somehow been forced into the marriage. At first he thought Lex was behind it, now he suspects Lionel may have had a hand in it (hence "the gloves come off" line)."

[Timester]

SDK: "You know, I have a completely different view of that moment. First, of course, this is Clark Kent, not Superman. Second, I have a very strong sense of fidelity, but if the woman I loved was married to Hitler-in-trainer, all bets would be off. But again, that's just me. And don't forget that Clark strongly suspects tht Lana was forced into this loveless marriage. It's a verrrrry grey area, even for a future hero."


Newscheck, Steven, you are not Clark Kent. It's ok to kiss a married woman because she is married to the Anti-Christ. WTF?...

[friday]

Under the court of law, since Lana was threatened into the marriage by Lionel, would render this so called wedding, invalid.

[redraven]

Originally posted by friday
Under the court of law, since Lana was threatened into the marriage by Lionel, would render this so called wedding, invalid.

Exactly, that's why I don't understand why Lana should honor her 'marraige' to Lex...and why it's wrong that her and Clark shared an almost kiss this episode.


Based on this, most Ship Supporters posting here (Clana, Chlark & Clex coming to mind) have broken the rules already.

It's more like every major 'ship supporter; not just Clana, Chlark, and Clex (I really actually hear nothing bash-like from Clex fans...), it's Clois, too. Can't forget about them, now.

[All about Clark]

I have mixed emotions on the almost kiss. Firstly, I can see the point of view that the almost kiss tarnishes the Superman image, however, I saw it no where as damaging as the horrible Singer Superman movie.

From the flip side, I can see that Lana's line about protecting others hit so close to Clark's heart, and he reacted. The point I'm making is that I don't want to see a Superman with no heart, a robot protector. And I also want to see his human side. So I personally furgive the almost kiss. It was just a tender moment and I'm sure many of us have gotten lost in a tender moment.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Timester
SDK: "You know, I have a completely different view of that moment. First, of course, this is Clark Kent, not Superman. Second, I have a very strong sense of fidelity, but if the woman I loved was married to Hitler-in-trainer, all bets would be off. But again, that's just me. And don't forget that Clark strongly suspects tht Lana was forced into this loveless marriage. It's a verrrrry grey area, even for a future hero."




Go SDK!



:lol:

[redkrypclark]

wait are you guys seriously trying to say that lana is like a whore compared to who? chloe who gave it up to an intern at the planet just because she thought he was cute and lois who has slept with like what half the army, metropolis, ollie, etc. the only people lana has slept with was clark and lex. if anything its clarks fault for that too he told her he didnt love her lex to her knowledge lex open to her and there for her when she needed someone unlike the man of steel. now personally i have no problem with clark going after her think about it the love of your life is trapped in a marriage to the devil would you not try to see whats up. as for god and taking oaths before him im not sure if the god looks as a marriage to the antichrist as a marriage.

[Ania]

Originally posted by redraven
.....I never said anything like that. All I did was reply to your 'argument' about Lana skanking around and being a whore; I never said one word about 'holy Lana', or her loving, and always loving Clark and his destiny.

So yeah, obviously you have nothing meaningful to say so you just say random crap to attack me. Nice. :rolleyes: If you insist on not getting my point, I'll have to put it as simply as I can.


It is ok for Lana to have eyes for Clark while dating Whitney, Adam, Jason and kissing Clark while being married to Lex because she always LOVED Clark.

But it is still ok that she dated Whitney, Adam, Jason and Lex and married Lex while being in LOVE with Clark.


See, VERY simple.

She dates guys while being in love with someone else. Why? Because it's not about who she loves and is devoted to. Its about having someone to date even if he means nothing to her. She uses guys she dates, she hurts guys she loves and all of that because... she can't live without a guy. Any guy.


Originally posted by redkrypclark
lois who has slept with like what half the army, metropolis, ollie, etc.That half the army, Metropolis etc. was in deleted scenes on DVD or what? :lol:

[darkone]

Originally posted by Ania
If you insist on not getting my point, I'll have to put it as simply as I can.


It is ok for Lana to have eyes for Clark while dating Whitney, Adam, Jason and kissing Clark while being married to Lex because she always LOVED Clark.

But it is still ok that she dated Whitney, Adam, Jason and Lex and married Lex while being in LOVE with Clark.


See, VERY simple.

She dates guys while being in love with someone else. Why? Because it's not about who she loves and is devoted to. Its about having someone to date even if he means nothing to her. She uses guys she dates, she hurts guys she loves and all of that because... she can't live without a guy. Any guy.

That half the army, Metropolis etc. was in deleted scenes on DVD or what? :lol:

Since you are in denial about what we have posted a million times before I will do it again for you.

Whitney-A highschool crush.I dont consider this as a serious relationship.Besides the first conversation she had with Clark was when she's been with Whitney already.Not skanky.

Adam-She never hooked up with Adam.Not skanky.

Jason-Clark wasnt able to open up to her so she decided to leave him behind and found another guy who seems to be homest with her.She truly loved Jason IMO although she never told him that.Unfortunately he was a bigger liar than Clark if he wasnt who knows what might have happened.She was going back to Clark after Jasana was already ****ed up.Not skanky.

Lex-Her and Clark were broken up.She loved an illusion a person that never existed in the first place.Lex feared the whole time that Lana sees that and well she saw that and was disgusted by it and dumped him.The fact that she has struggled with her feelings for Clark the time Lex proposed to her tells me she knew deep down Lex isnt the one.But well she was "pregnant" and made a mistake and agreed to marry him.A mistake yes but not skanky.Not at all.

Lois-Isobel's facial expression as she searched for a hair of a virgin tells me Lois came around alot in her younger years.

[Ania]

No, seriously. Lana can date every human and alien around, just make her stop saying that "she has always loved Clark". Because if she did, dating others would be skanking and if she didn't, then she's worse liar than Clark.

Isobel's expresion you say? Well, that's Earth-shattering argument. I literally don't know what to say.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Lana tries to move on from Clark with Jason and Lex. For the last time, Lana did NOT date Adam.

[darkone]

Well, that's Earth-shattering argument. I literally don't know what to say.

So are your arguments about Lana being skanky.