Lois knows Wes Kennan from her days on the base with general lane?

[thedeucedazzles]

she acted like she knew him??

[biggkoz]

She knows everyone haha

[Kid Collins]

I think Lois and Wes had a relationship.

She hinted at Clark that they were "close".

And she recognized a scar that this dude had.

[redraven]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
She hinted at Clark that they were "close".

I'm not doubting that they were 'close' :p. I mean...she did say she kissed him at one point.

[uhhuhhim]

If you ask me this whole "army brat" excuse is pure ********.

[freefall]

How could it be ******** when she has a freaking US Army general for a father, has spent some time as a recruit herself, as well as a military background that has been established since Gone itself with General Lane's introduction right after her first SV episode?

Sounds to me just like another round of pathetic anti-Lois stuff.

[idunowinks]

who doesnt lois know 'close' lol

[Deana]

Originally posted by seacrystal
How could it be ******** when she has a freaking US Army general for a father, has spent some time as a recruit herself, as well as a military background that has been established since Gone itself with General Lane's introduction right after her first SV episode?

Sounds to me just like another round of pathetic anti-Lois stuff. You know it would have been way more believable if Wes was the son of a janitor who is a source to Chloe.

Or another love child of Henry Small.

Someone who used to work on the Kent farm milking the cows and such.

The army brat thing is just to unbelievable for Smallville or should I say to believable. :rolleyes:

Of course I am being sarcastic...lol.

[clanafanforever]

i was thinking that he was her first love or something with the way she acted toward him.

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by seacrystal
How could it be ******** when she has a freaking US Army general for a father, has spent some time as a recruit herself.

It's ******** because they've been using that excuse for a long time.

1. In the Season 4 finale when they all had to get out of Smallville during the meteor shower, they couldn't get through the road block because of the army, but when Lois shows up and drops her dad's name, they get out of it.

2. In Combat, the only reason she got wind of the fight club was because she knew the name of the Army base; how convenient.

3. Now, we're fed the same crap with this Wes Keenan character, an army brat who was a friend of Lois.'

How many more of these "I know this...and I know that person because I'm an army brat" excuses are we going to get? If anyone would like to point out more examples of how they've used this as an excuse, feel free to. It's lame.

[SteveS]

" Post #7 of 11

How could it be ******** when she has a freaking US Army general for a father, has spent some time as a recruit herself, as well as a military background that has been established since Gone itself with General Lane's introduction right after her first SV episode?"

lois never 'spent some time as a recruit herself' because she never was a high school graduate before coming to Smallville and has never spent a day of SERVICE in the military. It is her father who has spend his adult life in the military.

I did like how it was that lois' kiss made Wes puke. Makes me puke just thinking about it. Luckily for her super ego, Clark has a superman stomach.

And yes, 'army brat' is one of those stupid conveniences the writers on this show use to fill gaps, and the ignorant think it means that she (lois) has gained all the knowledge and skills that people spend days, weeks, months and years busting their butts to develop.

Real Smallville lois is speaking without thinking and blurting out the shower bit in front of Martha. lois is an air=head still.

[freefall]

I think both of you are grasping at straws here, uhhuhhim and SteveS.

[lilkoolmaria]

I THINK seacrystal is right.

[freefall]

It just amuses me to no end when some people are on full on hate mode when it comes to Lois. :)

[lilkoolmaria]

^^ Word. :)

[morrigan01]

Originally posted by clanafanforever
i was thinking that he was her first love or something with the way she acted toward him.

She said herself he was her first kiss.

So yes, he was important to her.

[SteveS]

Originally posted by seacrystal
I think both of you are grasping at straws here, uhhuhhim and SteveS.

And, Seacrystal, I think you fabricated lois military service where she has never had any, ever. In an effort to make her look better and to add a faked plausibility to the military brat BS. Adults and people with the familiarity recognize it for what it is, even if ignorant writers and fans do not.

Her kiss did make Wes puke, I heard it from her own lips.

[Deana]

Wow a Lois thread just isn't a Lois thread without a certain someone's blind hatred for the character. lmao

[freefall]

We shouldn't expect any less Deana. :D Let them scrape the bottom of the barrel all they want.

[SteveS]

It is tough when someone brings up facts to contradict fanwanks, fabrications and general BS. Oh wait, it is not The General that is bsing, it is the lois fans trying to embellish her record falsely.

Good night.

[freefall]

For the record, there's a clear indication Lois herself was a recruit once, when she obviously knew what was she talking about to that recruit involved in the roadblock in Commencement.


Lois: This barricade, it should be perpendicular to the road. Those channelizers should be further apart and, unless I need glasses, there should be reflectors on those I-beams.

And she was right.

Check your own facts first before making nonsensical claims about people BSing on you.

[Deana]

A love affair of pure hatred. Tune in next week for more...or maybe tomorrow.

[Ultron]

I thought it was a good plot twist, and I feel sorry for Wes and his wife (both now deceased) as well as Lana from this show, who tried appealing to an old friend who returned a far different man. So much tragedy.

[citizenlen]

Well, one thing I laughed at the Lois scene in Commencement is that no mater again no matter whose daughter you are, those soldier boys don't give a damn. They take orders from higher rank NOT the hinger rank's daughter. It was unbelievable the soldier was afraid of Lois just because she's the General's daughter. Military dependents cannot exercise that much authority as Lois did even the general knows that. He can get reprimanded for his daughter's actions.

It is rather convenient that Lois knows Wes but hey that's Smallville for you.
They needed to move the plot along.

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by seacrystal
I think both of you are grasping at straws here, uhhuhhim and SteveS.

Yeah, we're grasping at the weak straws that make up Lois Lane. I'm not the only person who sees the miserable excuses they've been using to justify her existence on the show. It's pathetic. Next, she'll be telling Clark and Chloe that she can get them into Area 51 because she's "the general's daughter." *eye roll*


Originally posted by citizenlen
Well, one thing I laughed at the Lois scene in Commencement is that no mater again no matter whose daughter you are, those soldier boys don't give a damn. They take orders from higher rank NOT the hinger rank's daughter. It was unbelievable the soldier was afraid of Lois just because she's the General's daughter.

Oh, look: another person who agrees with SteveS and I.

[Mischael12]

Originally posted by SteveS
And, Seacrystal, I think you fabricated lois military service where she has never had any, ever. In an effort to make her look better and to add a faked plausibility to the military brat BS. Adults and people with the familiarity recognize it for what it is, even if ignorant writers and fans do not.

Her kiss did make Wes puke, I heard it from her own lips.

Then you heard wrong. They had gotten drunk, her kiss didn't make him puke the liquor did.

I sometimes wonder how many people have ever had any experience with Superman Comics, and televisions shows, hell even the movies, because Erica portrays Lois Lane the way a lot actresses have.

As well not afraid of the generals daughter? Hello you don't piss off the daughter of any individual who has power. Would you piss off the presidents daughter?

Daddy will always protect his little girl.

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by Mischael12
Erica portrays Lois Lane the way a lot actresses have.

Obviously, she's done the worst job by far.

[imafan411]

Wow...some of you guys really don't like Lois Lane....or your just jealous...

It's weird I can't even go on a Lois thread without bashers coming on and tearing her apart....I think a lot of people agree with me when I say that Erica has done a wonderful job as Lois.

:p

[ClowRegulus]

Originally posted by Mischael12
As well not afraid of the generals daughter? Hello you don't piss off the daughter of any individual who has power. Would you piss off the presidents daughter?

Daddy will always protect his little girl.

I agree w/ this.

The family of judges and politicians (even of powerful lawyers), etc. usually receive this kind of respect because of one's position (sometimes they are "untouchables"). Haven't you all heard once someone saying "do you know who i'm related to?" just to get some advantage for himself? A lt. or a major wouldn't be impressed by Lois, but I believe that a recruit could be.

Hey, maybe Clark will be able to use that excuse for himself when Martha become an U.S. Senator. :P

[cmm]

I think what makes non lois fans mad is how they justify her finding out things. She never has to actually work it either falls into her lap or it's cause her dad being a general. That's what I think they're trying to say.

[Mischael12]

they are just hating, shes done a pretty good job, who do you think would be a better Lois then

[cmm]

Lois lane from the movies and lois lane from the show with dean cain is way better than this one. I just find they introduced her poorly at the start and have been trying to make it up to fans since then. It's how they're goin about making her the journalist we all know and love that ticking people off. There was no proper introduction as to why seh wanted to be a journalist, it was just one day she woke up and decided to be a journalist. As far as I know too she didn't even go to college to take courses to become a journalist.

[Mischael12]

Actually she did some reporting for the Newspaper they had at the highschool, if i remember correctly, and at first she didn't like it, but she displayed some interest in it towards the end.

Chloe hasn't taken Classes to be a journalist, and in some continuities Lois Lane dropped out of highschool

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

Well despite the noticeable flaws in the writing on Smallville it's not really Erica's fault that her character is written that way on the show.

I think she's done a good job with what she's been given.

And there'll always be haters...a group hates Lana, another hates chloe, there's a group that hates Clark, etc.

And the tie up with Wess...the whole first kiss thing and knowing him from when she grew up; I thought that was a good way to go. I mean, they couldn't have very well killed her off now. Would have it been better if the writers did what they always did with lana.... have clark save her after she conveniently gets knocked out? ...:lol: Oops, she did get conveniently knocked out. Oh well.:rolleyes:

[harryandginnyfanatic]

We can't expect her to just simply be a clone of Teri Hatcher or of Margot Kidder. That'd just be boring.

[Mischael12]

I never found Margot Kidder all that amazing.

[liana]

How about we get back to the topic? I thought it was an interesting way of having a Lois-centric episode that tell us a little more about her character, and at the same time moves her further giving her a real reason to get out of the Inquisitor and to fight against Lex.

[MetroGirl06]

This is NOT a Lois-bashing thread! Someone just asked a simple question that did not require a few of the rude comments I've read on this thread. Y''alls need to chill out!

Peace! :cool:

[citizenlen]

I am not bashing Lois, in fact I actually like her dramatic flair in this episode considering the crap they give Lois and Lana. Also, I disagree that Wes puke because Lois kissed him, he puke because he was drunk, so in that one I am not agreeing with SteveS. But I do believe she'll have "some" knowledge of the military considering her father raised them following the codes of military. However, I do not like the way they have written Lois just like what they've done to Lana. I love Chloe, too, but I just feel that Lois and Lana's character have been horribly diluted.

I actually liked her line "remember me". Just don't like the episode. I guess Nemesis is tough act to follow.

ETA: It doesn't matter who you're related to, I lived in the military base and they've put officers kids in jail for disturbing peace and theft. Those kids even if they're the General's daughter, cannot talk to other soldiers the way Lois did. They cannot just throw names around its unethical and she's breaking many military conduct by behaving like that. It also reflects poorly on the General that his own daughter is exercising power and authority for her own benefit. I don't blame Lois for this, I blame the writers for this. If they're gonna use the General's daughter as a trump card, at least they should get their facts straight.

[LoisL]

At first I did a double take when Lois was shown to know Wes from being an army brat. Then I realized that I was just surprised because I was so brainwashed into thinking only Chloe, as a highschool editor, could have connections and networking.

Lois needs more episodes to break the stereotypes. There's so much about her we don't know.


Originally posted by dannxnycx
Just like some people are when it comes to Lana, though

It's never pretty, whoever the target is. But I guess part of fanaticism is ranting. Raving, ranting, and overall obsession. :D

[freefall]

Originally posted by dannxnycx
Just like some people are when it comes to Lana, though

So that we're clear, I've never felt the need to bash on Lana either. I noticed you're a new poster here, you should have seen the hundreds of posts hailing Lana as an outright villain in Promise just because she locked in Chloe in the wine cellar, which is nothing more than just a harmless ruse.

[ClowRegulus]

Originally posted by citizenlen
ETA: It doesn't matter who you're related to, I lived in the military base and they've put officers kids in jail for disturbing peace and theft. Those kids even if they're the General's daughter, cannot talk to other soldiers the way Lois did. They cannot just throw names around its unethical and she's breaking many military conduct by behaving like that. It also reflects poorly on the General that his own daughter is exercising power and authority for her own benefit. I don't blame Lois for this, I blame the writers for this. If they're gonna use the General's daughter as a trump card, at least they should get their facts straight.

Be happy that in our country this thing doesn't happen, because there are other places in the world that this wrong behavior is common (sometimes the person isn't even related, is just a friend of someone w/ power and influence). Let's just consider that in SV Lois's past life w/ the military is o.k. to move the history forward. It's like, if she was a RPG character, she has a big graduation in the Knowlegde (military) skill, so she can choose 20 every time. :P


I keep wondering ... if the writers haven't had take any advantage of Lois's past w/ the military, a lot of people would be complaining about that. When they do (even in a wrong way), people still are complaining. It's just to keep things moving on the show, please don't overreact.

[Seryna]

That was a streeeetch. Its not like theres hundreds of army bases in the states, this two met, were friends- had thier first kiss- and than she was his witness.

*Rolls eyes*

Yet another way to get Lois screen time. I think the writers could have manipulated it better- as in, Chloe mentions Wes to Lois before this, and Lois stated that she grew up with him- not just all jammed into one 4 minute session.

Rushed much.

[SteveS]

Originally posted by seacrystal
For the record, there's a clear indication Lois herself was a recruit once, when she obviously knew what was she talking about to that recruit involved in the roadblock in Commencement.



And she was right.

Check your own facts first before making nonsensical claims about people BSing on you.

Here is a little fact for you Seacrystal, you can not be in the Army unless you are a high school graduate and in case your memory is as poor as your knowledge of the 'facts' you claim, lois failed to graduate from high school, hence she could have never been in the Army prior to Smallville.Never. You don't know what you are talking about in this regard. And after her appearance in Smallville, she never served her country one day. Never.

Try to bring some facts to bear here, okay, not your fantasies of lois. (And Clark had to save her sorry butt yet once again)

Smallville writers put out kiddyland stupidity for people who are ignorant of the facts, most probably because the writers themselves are ignorant. A few years ago, they didn't even know what the word ancestors meant.

[uhhuhhim]

^^^^ I agree with SteveS. When the recruiters go to a high school, they are looking for people who are going to GRADUATE and go on to college, both of which Lois hasn't done. And again, if she didn't graduate high school, they wouldn't have accepted her.

[Seryna]

No, you need a GED or some equivalent of graduation if you haven't graduated. Now maybe Lois got one- but i didn't see it mentioned.

I was in the Army 3 years & I saw plenty of potential recruits get dropped for not having the 'drive' to graduate.

[samanta]

While I agree the scene in season 4 finale was plainly stupid I don't see what's the reason to bash Lois only because she knew WK from before. They do the same thing with Chloe and Clark. It's just a way how to do show more interesting.

[uhhuhhim]

Originally posted by samanta
It's just a way how to do show more interesting.

No, it's just sloppy writing used to "advance" her character, if you can even call it that.

[samanta]

Originally posted by uhhuhhim
No, it's just sloppy writing used to "advance" her character, if you can even call it that. But this is happening to every character. Chloe's computer skills works only sometimes, Lana and Lex's fighting skills do the same etc. At least there is some continuity in Lois life. It can't be said about Chloe and Lana.

[Timester]

Lois be damned for a bit of continuity. How dare she know someone from her unknown "army brat" past? Why can't she someone normal, like Chloe having dozens of inside contacts by the age of 15? Oh, wait... :rolleyes: