Lana's Pregnancy - Another Clue

[thebog1]

The bombshell was dropped. And no one else seems to have noticed it.

'Lionel needed someone on the inside' - Lana.

All this time, we were thinking Lex did something to trapped Lana into the marriage. It wasn't Lex at all - He'd never do anything to hurt her. It was Lionel.

Lionel created her 'false' pregnancy to trap her in the marriage with Lex. When she was willing to leave him anyways, Lionel then used his only card - her love for Clark.

Lex (most likely) knows about Lionel's involvement in the pregnancy or at least know's the truth about the baby, which is why he destroyed the records. That, perhaps, is what will be the reason Lex attempts to destroy Lionel in the finale.

What do y'all think of that bombshell?

[LOONEY]

no it was lex and the doctor.....and lex burned the sonogram pics...the doctor told him at one point Lex you know this is no normal pregnancy.......

[thebog1]

Of course the doctor did. He knew something was right, just not what until after he'd lost the baby and he examined her.

Not to mention, the doctor probably thought it <was> Lex. I mean, the dude was on Lex's payroll. He knew something wasn't right, Lex is bringing his wife to him, he assumes it was Lex's doing automatically. Who would have suspected Lionel?

[Cotannah]

Its Lex IMHO I cant remember which ep it was but you see him really making a point of her having a drink.

Also the Doc would have known there wasnt a baby on the scan, I think Lex planed it to play a video of another baby scan.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I guess that conversation between lex and Lionel in Promise meant nothing ??

[friday]

Lex killed the doctor in "Promise" because he was threatening to tell Lana about her "pregnancy" if Lex didn't give him money.

It was definitely Lex who drugged up Lana.

[thebog1]

Nah, he killed the doctor because Lex had discovered the truth and thought she'd leave him otherwise.

My money is on Lionel 150%. He has something up his sleeve.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by thebog1
Nah, he killed the doctor because Lex had discovered the truth and thought she'd leave him otherwise.

My money is on Lionel 150%. He has something up his sleeve.

:rolleyes:

[Ultron]

Originally posted by thebog1
The bombshell was dropped. And no one else seems to have noticed it.

'Lionel needed someone on the inside' - Lana.

All this time, we were thinking Lex did something to trapped Lana into the marriage. It wasn't Lex at all - He'd never do anything to hurt her. It was Lionel.

Until you mentioned it right here, I didn't quite catch that. I heard her say that, but I didn't catch that as the grand reason for Lionel forcing her hand to marry Lex. I thought of it merely as a way of protecting her and Clark from Lex. Lana would be protected by not spurning Lex, and Clark would be protected since Lana didn't choose him over Lex. Let's be honest, if Lana left Lex for Clark on his wedding night, Lex would plot forever for the demise of both of them. So Lionel's tactics seem to have some weight behind them.

But it's more than just that. It's because Lionel needs someone on the inside who can ultimately either keep Lex down or prevent him from going too far. And maybe Lana can tame Lex's struggle for power and keep him human.

Anyhow, great catch with the "bombshell." Even a guy like me who's seen all the episdoes didn't really catch that the way you did. :)

[thebog1]

I'm one of Smallville's greatest fans. . . Truth be told, I wish <I> could be a meteor-infected, genetically altered being... that is, of course, if I got to pick my ability... Maybe something to do with controlling or communicating with animals... ^_^

[paolinki25]

I insist that this pregnancy storyline was probably the most stupid thing they could have thought of. It makes absolutely NO SENSE, and I hate it.

[thebog1]

It does make sense.

-It trapped Lana in the marriage.
-It got Lana close to Lex, to do Lionel's bidding.
-It (temporarily) took Lex's focus off of Clark.
-It provides motive for Lana and Clark and Chloe to attack Lex
-And, lastly, it moves Lionel into the dealer's spot. He has the deck, he knows (pretty much) everyone's cards. Add in the 'wild' card for possibly Lex and Chloe and it's going to be one hell of a finish.

[OpTiKaL]

edited out

[Charissa70]

I think that Lana's pregnancy might be brought up again. Unfortunatelty... The writing was weird and never fully explained about all these doctors, so, it might be brought up the the hormone was use to speed up the pregnancy or Lex needed the baby's cells for his supposed army. You never know with these writers. Or they (writers) didn't check what was done and ended everything lamely and we have a few doctors around that know she was never pregnant-other than the dead one.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by thebog1
It does make sense.

-It trapped Lana in the marriage.
-It got Lana close to Lex, to do Lionel's bidding.
-It (temporarily) took Lex's focus off of Clark.
-It provides motive for Lana and Clark and Chloe to attack Lex
-And, lastly, it moves Lionel into the dealer's spot. He has the deck, he knows (pretty much) everyone's cards. Add in the 'wild' card for possibly Lex and Chloe and it's going to be one hell of a finish.

Did you watch Promise?

[thebog1]

Yes, I did. I have every episode saved to my HD. In Promise, a lot of things happened that we didn't understand (then) but with the currently developing story, let me clarify the main ones.

The doctor, who has thus far been paid by Lex threatens to tell Lana the truth about her pregnancy. The doctor assumes it was Lex's doing because Lex is paying him to take care of the baby - when the abnormality of it is discovered, naturally the doctor assumed/assumes Lex was at fault and was paying him to cover Lex's track.

Lex kills him because Lex also found out the truth about it, somehow. No matter who was at fault for the pregnancy, if Lana knew it was false, she would have left him for Clark (prior to the threat on CK's life by Lionel) without hesitation. Lex knew it and didn't want to risk losing her, so he killed the doctor.

Lionel 'cleans up' Lex's mess and says 'You needed me to rescue you, even on your wedding day' or something to that effect. This had double meaning. Lionel saved Lana from knowing the truth (at this point) and by forcing Lana to marry Lex, Lionel was 'saving' Lex from whatever ill-fated project Lex was heading/is heading.

Lastly, Lionel threatens CK's life to Lana since she was willing to leave Lex even <with> the baby. Lionel gets her to stay, so he has no need to keep up with the false baby pretenses, cuts off the horomones and wham, it's all over and done next episode and she's still with Lex.

As I stated, Lionel knows everyone's score except possibly Lex's and Chloe's. Now it's just a matter of who's hand can beat who's.

[Zaine07]

Man you guy are really good with this. Man you get right down to the point and clarify everything. I just wanna say thatnks for clearing things up. But I am ultimately concerned about Chloe!!!Does anyone have the 411 on chloe???

[thebog1]

IMO, she's going to die, sacrificing herself for Lana or Clark or perhaps both.

[Charissa70]

I am concerned for Chloe, because everyone is concerned for everyone but Chloe (I know Clark said he would protect her, but laments that he isn't always watching Lana-can't be both ways) and she is the one that got the most direct threat. And Chloe is acting scared, but as usual is putting her friends lives first. She is the self sacrificing one of the bunch-she does not know what powers she has if any, does not have Clark's powers or Lana's financial resourses, or Clark's undying love to protect her. She has/had Jimmy who is now shooting a group of people jumping in frigid water in minnisota.

[thebog1]

Ok, well... Let's get back on topic... What do y'all think of that bombshell?

Personally, I think that is what might push Clark over the edge and cause Clark to want to kill Lionel. Knowing Smallville and the Superman story, Clark wouldn't be allowed to do the killing so that's where Bizarro might come in. He might do the deed for Clark, for any number of reasons.

I just can't believe we were so focused on Lex that Lionel being the one at fault escaped (almost) everyone's notice until just this episode.

[hassenmorad]

Trust me, Lex was definitely the one who drugged Lana. Why would he have had a nightmare about the child if he wasn't responsible. Furthermore, if he wasn't the one to do this to her, then wouldn't you expect him to find out who did? I think you're misinterpreting the interactions.

[thebog1]

would he have had a nightmare about the child if he wasn't responsible.

Gee, I don't know. Why don't you get told your the father of a child, dream of it growing and being a dad then finding out the child doesn't exist and that your wife was violated. Who would <ever> have a nightmare about that? *Rolls eyes*


Furthermore, if he wasn't the one to do this to her, then wouldn't you expect him to find out who did?

And who says he hasn't found out?

[Bosrudorfer]

Yea I think it was Lex... it doesnt seem like Lionel and remember Lex is supposed to be the evil one. If Lionel did that they might as well kill off Lex and change Lionels name to Lex V2.

It sucks huh two episodes left and most viewers are confused as heck

[elroyofkrypton]

This whole plotline seems so inconsistant. Don't blame the writers, though...the prodicers shoul;d be monitoring the content of the show. This is almost as stupid as falling in love with Alicia.

[sailfindragon]

I honestly think it was lex. I don't think Lionel had anything to do with it.

[LaClinique]

Originally posted by elroyofkrypton
This whole plotline seems so inconsistant. Don't blame the writers, though...the prodicers shoul;d be monitoring the content of the show. This is almost as stupid as falling in love with Alicia.

Maybe it is just perceptually inconsistent at this point. Perhaps if the storyline develops more everything will become consistent. :)

[Kii]

:rolleyes:

[OpTiKaL]

it wasnt lionel, end of story

[Minael2007]

do you think anything from clark was implanted into the baby? making a superbaby?

[Cotannah]

Minael2007 do you think anything from clark was implanted into the baby? making a superbaby?

There was no baby, thats the whole point as to why Lana is soooo pissed.

[Minael2007]

bah no baby. no fair. oh ok. thnx for the correction.

[msleggie]

It was Lex that faked the whole pregnancy thing, I don't think Lionel knew that Lana wasn't pregnant until the day of the wedding

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EOXDQD_NfM


When Lionel says that Lana has made a disperate man out of Lex, it pretty much insinuates that HE believes LEX faked Lana's pregnancy so she would marry him.

[thebog1]

When Lionel says that Lana has made a desperate man out of Lex, it pretty much insinuates that HE believes LEX faked Lana's pregnancy so she would marry him.

No, it doesn't. It just means that Lex would do almost anything for Lana. As Clark and Chloe stated, Lex would never do anything to hurt Lana, including a faked pregnancy. It was Lionel who do it, manipulating Lana into a position to 'spy' on Lex for him. Once she was willing to leave Lex dispite the baby, Lionel used his next card, her love for Clark, to keep her in that position. Had it been Lex who had caused the pregnancy, it wouldn't have failed the next episode - it put his entire marriage into jeopardy if Clark's life hadn't been endanger. Take the threat against Clark away and put Lex at the blame spot, then please explain his ever intelligent rational for putting his own marriage on the rocks. No, Lex would have allowed the false pregnancy to continue and let it play out as a natural miscarriage. It makes not only better common sense but is more logical a move for someone as intelligent as Lex Luthor.

[Cieran]

For all the people who think it was Lex that faked the pregnancy, please re-watch episode 16, Promise. About 1/3 through the episode, Lex has the dream where he's watching the sonogram on the big screen, and the baby is there and opens it's eyes, which appear to be glowingly 'freakish'.

Remember, Lex is also meteor-infected, with the abnormal blood cells that give him miraculous healing abilities. And Lex is aware the he is infected, after Lionel tried to poison him a few seasons ago and his body fought the poison.

Also, the conversation Lex has with the doctor in the cellar is ambiguous, it's never clearly defined that Lex "knows". The doctor keeps saying that Lex kept these things from Lana, assuming that it was Lex that faked the pregnancy. But from the scene, it's unclear as to how Lex interprets the doctor's statements. From Lex's perspective, he may think the doctor is referring to the baby being meteor-infected and that was what Lex was keeping from her, whereas the doctor was truly speaking about Lionel faking it all.

Its more likely that Lex brought Lana in for the first exam, and to the doctor's surprise, whoops there's no baby. Now, it's Lex Luthor we're talking about, it's not exactly like you come out and say "I want you to fake a pregnancy", it's more of a wink wink kind of situation. Thus, expecting a big payoff from Lex at some point, he went along with it, assuming Lex was the one responsible.

So, going with the unspoken assumption, the doctor gives Lex some sonogram from another person to show Lana, not realizing Lex really doesn't know and causes him to really believe there's a baby. Then bam, on the wedding night, he drops the bombshell that he wants blackmail money for 'keeping the secret'.

He murdered the doctor, as he said, because he never gives in to blackmail and he will never let anything take Lana from him. He may fear Lana, given her LONG LONG LONG history with meteor-freaks trying to kill her, finding out about him being infected and then leaving him.

But then, Lionel drops the news that he knows about the murder. Lionel says if they find the doctor, then Lana might just find out the truth about the pregnancy. It's at that point that Lex pieces together the puzzle; his father had done something. He may not know at the time that it was a fake pregnancy, but no doubt he knows by the time he burns the medical records from an alternate doctor (episode 17), along with the sonogram, with a look of sadness and loss on his face. It evens looks like there was tears welling up in his left eye as it burns.

So in conclusion, Lex wasn't the one who faked it, but he did find out later. It had to have been a dupe situation, else why would Lex be dreaming of actually having a meteor-freak baby with creepy glowing eyes, if he already knew the sonogram was a fake?

At least that's my take on it, I'd love to hear more alternate theories.

Ooh, also, if Lex was the one to fake it, then how did Lionel know about it at the end of promise? Lionel says Lana will find out the truth about the pregnancy, but how would Lionel know it was fake if Lex was responsible, it's not exactly like Lex would tell his father such a highly guarded secret (tricking someone into marriage).

And I doubt if Lex had done it, he'd have left any trace of evidence behind for his father to find, he's well trained in that regard. Lionel finding out about the dead doctor was merely because it was a spur of the moment thing, an act of passion, that Lex had no time to try to cover his tracks on. Whereas a faked pregnancy isn't exactly unplannned, Lex would have ample time to strategize and compartmentalize it so Lionel would never find out.

So there's no way Lionel would know and be able to utter that statement unless HE was in on it. I see no other way.

[thebog1]

Well said, Cieran. :)

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Ok then.

[Honey45]

Originally posted by thebog1
The bombshell was dropped. And no one else seems to have noticed it.

'Lionel needed someone on the inside' - Lana.

All this time, we were thinking Lex did something to trapped Lana into the marriage. It wasn't Lex at all - He'd never do anything to hurt her. It was Lionel.

Lionel created her 'false' pregnancy to trap her in the marriage with Lex. When she was willing to leave him anyways, Lionel then used his only card - her love for Clark.

Lex (most likely) knows about Lionel's involvement in the pregnancy or at least know's the truth about the baby, which is why he destroyed the records. That, perhaps, is what will be the reason Lex attempts to destroy Lionel in the finale.

What do y'all think of that bombshell?

That's a good observation, but I still think it was Lex.
Lex had to have planned with his doctor to show the fake ultrasound with the video of the baby. He also made a point of Lana having a drink, which made her think she was losing the baby.
Maybe it was Lionel's idea, but Lex is definately in on it.

I think what Lana was referring to was that Lionel just needed her to marry Lex to get close to him. I don't think he meant anything about the pregnancy.

[petewillreturn]

I think this is a pretty good theory. I believe that this whole season has been leading up to these next two episodes. We have started to trust Lional forgetting about what he is capable of. Martha also told Clark that she didn’t trust him. Also what NoSpam posted in Smallville Spoiler Discussions, “Michael Rosenbaum answers fans questions” seems more to support your theory than destroy it.

[redeem147]

I'd like it to be Lionel, because I think that would make it much more interesting, and because it would be more in character for him than Lex (at this point anyway), but I don't know that it really fits.

I know - it was Aunt Nell. She really wants a piece of that Luther money!

[Jedi_Dark_Knight]

Lex faked the pregnancy, to force a marriage. Lionel re-forced the marriage to get someone on the inside and find just how dangerous Lex is against Clark. no bombshell, no subtext. You are reading too much, it's all in the episodes.