Mistakes/Inconsistencies & Plotholes in Noir

[xrayvision]

Talk about plotholes or inconsistencies in Noir here.

[smallvillechloefan01]

who is clark kissing its so hard to tell when its black and white

[HnK]

you mama

[skylar]

It's Lana! The writers always put a Clana scene in eppi

[thebog1]

First error noticed: When Chloe first saw Lana, the gunshot wound was on Lana's left shoulder. The next time on that we see Lana, it is on her right (so far).

[shotgunner 101]

I noticed this as well she was shot on the left shoulder but in the hospital bed she had the sling on the right arm?

[Charissa70]

you're right. I thought I was wrong, then I saw the sling on the sling on the opposite side of where she was shot. Lana, simply miraculous

[SeaNymph]

Hehe, almost as miraculous as the fact that she's gonna be ALL better next episode, hmm?

I love how she doesn't even stay really injured for a whole episode.

[shotgunner 101]

Anyone notice how fast and how much blood came out.Then it took them like 20 minutes to take her to the hospital I'm thinking wth she should be dead by now :rolleyes:

[spideyfan]

i dunno...

This was a decent episode and got better toward the second half of the episode. I liked the future fore-shadowing but would like to have seen more Lois in this.

I think the next episode will start to lead into the finale. I hope its a good one. I cant really get excited about it anymore.

6/10

[clarkandlana2]

Yeah, the thing with Lana's wound switching sides practically every scene was a MAJOR f*ck up!

[manalive]

How about the fact that Chloe said that Lex would never hurt Lana when at the end of Progeny she said that they couldn't act against Lex until they were sure that Lana was safe?

[freddielm]

Originally posted by thebog1
First error noticed: When Chloe first saw Lana, the gunshot wound was on Lana's left shoulder. The next time on that we see Lana, it is on her right (so far).

I noticed that too.

[xrayvision]

Errors I noticed:

1. Chloe talked about elevators having memory. From what I know, elevators use ladder logic, which consists of PLCs (Programmable Logic Controllers) I'm not sure if these have the capability of memory of the extent that Chloe needed.

2. Would they let Lois, who works for the rival newspaper into the building to get a story? I don't know the rules of engagement for this type of stuff and crime scenes that are within the building of a company.

[Honey45]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Errors I noticed:

1. Chloe talked about elevators having memory. From what I know, elevators use ladder logic, which consists of PLCs (Programmable Logic Controllers) I'm not sure if these have the capability of memory of the extent that Chloe needed.

2. Would they let Lois, who works for the rival newspaper into the building to get a story? I don't know the rules of engagement for this type of stuff and crime scenes that are within the building of a company.


Chloe even said the police locked down the building, so whoever hit Jimmy had to have already been inside the building. (I think)

Yet.. Lois got in?

[Billy Jor-El]

Gee, and I noticed the movie projector. In this day of DVDs where did Jimmy get a 16mm print of "The Big Sleep?" Plus look at the film reels, too dang little film on them for even reel one of the flick. Then the scene on screen with Bogie (well, I do like that JO is a Bogart fan :) ). In "The Big Sleep" the scene with Bogie and Martha Vickers (Carmen Sternwood) comes much later than it could have if JO had just started the movie. Gee, the writers didn't think other Bogie fans watch SV do they :p

[Mr.]

Originally posted by thebog1
First error noticed: When Chloe first saw Lana, the gunshot wound was on Lana's left shoulder. The next time on that we see Lana, it is on her right (so far).

Noticed that too ... sorry i had to post it :p
it was just tooo obvious geez at least do a "proofread"

[PKII]

umm that sure was a lot of blood she was losing. Like 2 pints just as she layed there. She only has about 8. She been dead before the medics got there. :rolleyes:


Originally posted by thebog1
First error noticed: When Chloe first saw Lana, the gunshot wound was on Lana's left shoulder. The next time on that we see Lana, it is on her right (so far). I noticed that but just figured she broke her arm when she hit they floor. They couldn't have messed up that bad... :rolleyes: :lol:

[meggy]

what I found was strange and inconsistent was that: In Progeny, Clark and Chloe were gung ho about not taking any action so they could protect Lana from Lex, seeing as Lex would "throw (Lana) to the wolves to spite (Clark))...so that was last week....

but this week, automatically they know that Lex would NEVER do ANYTHING to hurt the love of his life....so they can conveniently figure out that Lionel is up to no good.....

i had a WTH moment:confused:

things change week by week i tell you

[lol]

apart from the mistakes the episode was pretty descent

[fortress7081]

All i can say is It was just a DREAM....

Dreams are confusing...

[swedishclarkgirl]

how come clark didn´t get to the planet until after the police? But when chloe fell he was there in seconds

[thebog1]

Cause Lana was already shot. What more could he do except feel guilty?

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Originally posted by shotgunner 101
I noticed this as well she was shot on the left shoulder but in the hospital bed she had the sling on the right arm?


I noticed that too and started to laugh.

[Liriel]

Originally posted by meggy
what I found was strange and inconsistent was that: In Progeny, Clark and Chloe were gung ho about not taking any action so they could protect Lana from Lex, seeing as Lex would "throw (Lana) to the wolves to spite (Clark))...so that was last week....

but this week, automatically they know that Lex would NEVER do ANYTHING to hurt the love of his life....so they can conveniently figure out that Lionel is up to no good.....

i had a WTH moment:confused:

things change week by week i tell you That was the absolute worst.

[TommyD662]

I don't know about anyone else- but when Jimmy and Chloe were watching the movie and then kiss and then they looked at each other and said the "that wasn't the movie" thing... I kept rewinding and there was no what i assume to be a gunshot. No sound to startle them. Am I the only one this happened to?

[Honey45]

Originally posted by TommyD662
I don't know about anyone else- but when Jimmy and Chloe were watching the movie and then kiss and then they looked at each other and said the "that wasn't the movie" thing... I kept rewinding and there was no what i assume to be a gunshot. No sound to startle them. Am I the only one this happened to?

There was a sound. It wasn't very loud though.

[PKII]

good grief Lana's gun shot changed sides 3 times just taking her out of the elevator. Now who is in charge of deciding what side she got shot in. Here is an idea for you. !put a poca dot on that side then you won't forget! :rolleyes: :rotfl:

[Ultron]

As some of us mentioned in another post, the wound switching sides was probably due to some sort of error with the filmwork. I doubt they dressed her up on both sides multiple times throughout the episode. :)

[Imzadia]

OK, gang, here's what I noticed. YES, IMO, there were TWO Blatant errors in Visual Continuity.
1st: There was the gunshot wound changing sides from left to right shoulder, at least, three times. I missed the first 3 minutes of the show, (slap me!) so the first thing I saw was Lana laying on the floor of The Daily Planet with a gunshot wound just below her LEFT shoulder, lots of blood on the floor beneath her, while Chloe and Jimmy looked down at her. After the credits, etc., and Clark came running in--they kept him from getting close, but Lana was laying on an ambulance bed, in the distance, with an EMT trying to stabalize her, but the injury was on the RIGHT side. Then almost immediately, Lionel was hovering over Lana speaking in a whisper, apologizing for getting her mixed up in "this", and the injury is, Again, on the LEFT side. Of course, then later in her hospital room, it's her RIGHT arm that's in a sling.
2nd: At the end when Chloe meets Jimmy before he leaves to go on assignment, Chloe gets out of her "Yaris" with the latest copy of the Daily Planet and the headline, "HERO AMONG US", with two pictures beneath it. One picture was a color BUST shot of Jimmy and the other next to it was an indistinct black & white photo. However, when she got closer to Jimmy & they looked at it together, the headline was the same, but the pictures had changed. They were both in color, but one was of Jimmy shaking hands with someone and the other next to it was of two policemen, with the killer in the middle, taking him into custody. It might just be what anyone's individual eye picks up, but I didn't have to look for these...they just jumped out at me.:eek: :rotfl:

[Rosey]

Originally posted by Imzadia
OK, gang, here's what I noticed. YES, IMO, there were TWO Blatant errors in Visual Continuity.
1st: There was the gunshot wound changing sides from left to right shoulder, at least, three times. I missed the first 3 minutes of the show, (slap me!) so the first thing I saw was Lana laying on the floor of The Daily Planet with a gunshot wound just below her LEFT shoulder, lots of blood on the floor beneath her, while Chloe and Jimmy looked down at her. After the credits, etc., and Clark came running in--they kept him from getting close, but Lana was laying on an ambulance bed, in the distance, with an EMT trying to stabalize her, but the injury was on the RIGHT side. Then almost immediately, Lionel was hovering over Lana speaking in a whisper, apologizing for getting her mixed up in "this", and the injury is, Again, on the LEFT side. Of course, then later in her hospital room, it's her RIGHT arm that's in a sling.
2nd: At the end when Chloe meets Jimmy before he leaves to go on assignment, Chloe gets out of her "Yaris" with the latest copy of the Daily Planet and the headline, "HERO AMONG US", with two pictures beneath it. One picture was a color BUST shot of Jimmy and the other next to it was an indistinct black & white photo. However, when she got closer to Jimmy & they looked at it together, the headline was the same, but the pictures had changed. They were both in color, but one was of Jimmy shaking hands with someone and the other next to it was of two policemen, with the killer in the middle, taking him into custody. It might just be what anyone's individual eye picks up, but I didn't have to look for these...they just jumped out at me.:eek: :rotfl: Good eye. I didn't catch the newspaper thing.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4079/dpjimmystory1jt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/136/dpjimmystory2mx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


OK I guess they covered this one pretty well what with the old-fashioned train noise, but there in the background is the modern elevated Vancouver Skytrain that runs just North of the studio.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4140/shytrainnx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Originally posted by thebog1
First error noticed: When Chloe first saw Lana, the gunshot wound was on Lana's left shoulder. The next time on that we see Lana, it is on her right (so far). Man, but they just kept screwing this one up. :lol:

Lana shot in left shoulder, lying in elevator:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9835/lanaleftshoulderwoundzs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now the wound has moved to the right shoulder:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1269/lanarightshoulderwoundvm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now it's back to the left shoulder:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8388/lanawoundbacktoleftshouah6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And finally she's in the hospital bed with a sling on the right arm and pushing herself up in bed with the originally shot left side:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/884/lanawithslingonrightarmsq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Then there is James' car:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8775/jamescarbg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And the one that they show in old footage that is supposed to be his:

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4773/oldfootagecarri3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

They don't come close to matching. :p

[closetclana]

Originally posted by swedishclarkgirl
how come clark didn´t get to the planet until after the police? But when chloe fell he was there in seconds

Remember that Jimmy was fighting the bad guy and yelled at Chloe to call the police. Chloe ran down the hall and dialed and we saw "CLARK" on her cellphone. She called Clark, that is how he got there to catch Chloe.

[freddielm]

So many errors. Poor Lana got shot on both sides. LOL

[Acejournalist82]

Metropolis and Smallville were like the same place. It went from Jimmy at The Daily Planet to him chattin' it up with Clark at the Talon in one scene. What was with that?

[Honey45]

Thanks for posting the pictures of Lana's gunshot.
I can't believe they would mess up something THAT bad.

But what I'm thinking is, didn't Kristin Kreuk notice? Makeup like that on her shoulder would take at least a good half hour, wouldn't she notice that they were putting the gunshot on opposite sides all the time?


And for people that are saying there wasn't a gunshot noise for Jimmy and Chloe to react to, there was. It's not as loud as a gunshot should be, but there was definately something.

[Rosey]

Originally posted by HeddyH
Thanks for posting the pictures of Lana's gunshot. A kind word from Heddy?! :eek:


I can't believe they would mess up something THAT bad. I've heard of photographic negatives getting flipped but don't think that could happen in this case. I think they screwed up while filming different parts on different days, and by the time someone realized what had happened TPTB decided that it would cost too much to fix, so just hoped that we wouldn't notice. :rolleyes:

[Gidget]

Originally posted by Imzadia
OK, gang, here's what I noticed. YES, IMO, there were TWO Blatant errors in Visual Continuity.
1st: There was the gunshot wound changing sides from left to right shoulder, at least, three times. I missed the first 3 minutes of the show, (slap me!) so the first thing I saw was Lana laying on the floor of The Daily Planet with a gunshot wound just below her LEFT shoulder, lots of blood on the floor beneath her, while Chloe and Jimmy looked down at her. After the credits, etc., and Clark came running in--they kept him from getting close, but Lana was laying on an ambulance bed, in the distance, with an EMT trying to stabalize her, but the injury was on the RIGHT side. Then almost immediately, Lionel was hovering over Lana speaking in a whisper, apologizing for getting her mixed up in "this", and the injury is, Again, on the LEFT side. Of course, then later in her hospital room, it's her RIGHT arm that's in a sling.
2nd: At the end when Chloe meets Jimmy before he leaves to go on assignment, Chloe gets out of her "Yaris" with the latest copy of the Daily Planet and the headline, "HERO AMONG US", with two pictures beneath it. One picture was a color BUST shot of Jimmy and the other next to it was an indistinct black & white photo. However, when she got closer to Jimmy & they looked at it together, the headline was the same, but the pictures had changed. They were both in color, but one was of Jimmy shaking hands with someone and the other next to it was of two policemen, with the killer in the middle, taking him into custody. It might just be what anyone's individual eye picks up, but I didn't have to look for these...they just jumped out at me.:eek: :rotfl:

I noticed Lana's wound moving from shoulder to shoulder (it reminded me of "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" when the mole on Prince John moved to different places on his face), but I didn't notice the newspaper thing. Good job catching that.

[belang]

hehe...the gun shot wound mistake was the 1st thing that my hubby noticed too. oh, dear smallville.
don't even start w/ the cxr in lana's room...it's upside down. but hey...maybe the hospital staff purposely put it that way after seeing it. lol!

[australian infected]

Thought I was seeing things at first when i saw the gunshot on the opposite side...can't believe they would make a mistake like that after so many episodes...It just seemed strange to see such a thing like that!
They could make 20 mistakes per show and still would be the best show ever anyway!!!

[closetclana]

Originally posted by HeddyH
And for people that are saying there wasn't a gunshot noise for Jimmy and Chloe to react to, there was. It's not as loud as a gunshot should be, but there was definately something.

I thought that Lana was shot several stories above them in the building and then rode the elevator down to the basement (probably in the hope that Chloe was there and could help her.) This would explain why the shot was not that loud.

btw....call me unobservant but I didn't notice the gunshot switching sides until I read it here.

[Honey45]

Originally posted by belang
hehe...the gun shot wound mistake was the 1st thing that my hubby noticed too. oh, dear smallville.
don't even start w/ the cxr in lana's room...it's upside down. but hey...maybe the hospital staff purposely put it that way after seeing it. lol!

Sorry if this is stupid, but I've seen a lot of people say it and I don't understand.
What's a "cxr"?

[belang]

sorry mate...cxr = chest x ray. hope it clears up.

[Kalerado]

Long after the police had left, why was all of Lana's spilled belongings (a.k.a. the crime-scene evidence minus the gardenia) still lying in the hallway after Chloe woke up the knocked-out Jimmy???

I think this was the only way for Jimmy to deduce that the gardenia was actually missing.

This shows major incompetency on the part of Metropolis Police Dept. though... let alone letting Lois nab some evidence herself.


Originally posted by swedishclarkgirl
how come clark didn´t get to the planet until after the police? But when chloe fell he was there in seconds

After the dude gets shot in front of Chloe and Jimmy, Jimmy tells Chloe "Call 911" as he races after the shooter. Chloe called Clark instead. Thats how he got there so fast.

[seth jones]

I don't think tptb could make up their minds on which of lana's arms was suppose to be in a sling. They shoot the left shoulder then sling the right in Smallville Med. (LOL)! Check out the whole gurney thing and all... they change shoulder injuries like they change camera angles. I wonder which injury really ended up on the cutting rm. floor?

[Compton]

I notice that when Clark shoots Lana he holds the gun in his left hand and his badge in his right! This is surely wrong!:confused: