the preview for "Noir"

[maryjanewatson]

no worries, there are no spoilers here. I don't read the spoilers so i don't know anything more than anyone here who saw the preview.

but i just want to say that the preview looked awesome! I know it's a little unorthidox for a drama like smallville to do an episode like this, but i think as long as there is a good reason/explanation for doing it, that it will be great! and by good reason, i mean that they are not just doing it to do it and then forget it's relevance to anything, b/c that would be dumb; but have it to do with something relevant on the show, like it was another zoner thing or something.

and MAN OH MAN did clark wearing that suit and glasses and saying "i'm clark kent" all nerdy like get me all hot and bothered! I am very excited for this episode! I can't wait to watch it!! XD :D

[vyperman7]

I HATE period piece flashback episodes like this one. What bugs me even more is the placement of it in the season. Instead of taking the time to develop the weak plot this season and build some momentum, we get this lame Smallville noir episode.

We already saw Clark wear glasses in S3, it is a cheap way to give us Clois/Clana, and it accomplishes nothing in the end.

[MidgardDragon]

Sucks to be you (no offense). I think it looks like a great episode, cheesy Noir theme and all. Time to play up the cheese and enjoy the ride. And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the forward momentum as we will get scenes in the "real world" to set up and take us out of the episode.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by vyperman7
I HATE period piece flashback episodes like this one. What bugs me even more is the placement of it in the season. Instead of taking the time to develop the weak plot this season and build some momentum, we get this lame Smallville noir episode.

We already saw Clark wear glasses in S3, it is a cheap way to give us Clois/Clana, and it accomplishes nothing in the end.

What I've been saying. If they did this in place of Wither, then fine. But doing it at episode 20 when we have waited 19 episodes with 0 revelation of what Lionel has been up to since Zod is a disgrace. This is the thing that pisses me off the most about this season. They have their most interesting character who made seasons like 2 & 3 be the best of the series and they keep him mostly in offscreenville, only to be replaced by stupid shipping. I seriously thought the title "Noir" (which means black or dark in French I believe) was a reference to black-k. What a disappointment.

[hassenmorad]

Originally posted by vyperman7
I HATE period piece flashback episodes like this one. What bugs me even more is the placement of it in the season. Instead of taking the time to develop the weak plot this season and build some momentum, we get this lame Smallville noir episode.

We already saw Clark wear glasses in S3, it is a cheap way to give us Clois/Clana, and it accomplishes nothing in the end.

Yes, absolutely! Terrible timing for a filler!

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Sucks to be you (no offense). I think it looks like a great episode, cheesy Noir theme and all. Time to play up the cheese and enjoy the ride. And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the forward momentum as we will get scenes in the "real world" to set up and take us out of the episode.
(i think this is the first time we have agreed on anything, lol)
thats exactly my point of view on it. enjoy the cheese! embrace it! it is there for your entertainment! XD


besides, this entire season (excluding "justice") has been completely disapointing to me and has caused me a lot of grief in a "I can't believe I put so much time and money into this show, only to have to watch the crap they are dishing us this season" kind of way. I will take anything that will give me even the least bit of happiness, even if it's completely cheesy and unnessacary. I need it. Bring on the cheese. :)

[smallvillerocks45]

I think it looks great! Having not read any spoilers, I can only say that we have to wait and see the end product. You never know, the episode could in fact have some relevance after all. Certainly, I can't imagine "Noir" not incorporating at least some of what happened tonight in "Nemesis".

[xrayvision]

Well, Ageless didn't incorporate anything from Blank.

[vyperman7]

While it is true I hate these type of episodes, my main gripe is still the placement of it in the season. There are only a few episodes left to work with before the season ends. There are SO MANY loose ends to tie up and instead of doing this, we get a cheesy filler episode.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by maryjanewatson
(i think this is the first time we have agreed on anything, lol)

Possibly.


thats exactly my point of view on it. enjoy the cheese! embrace it! it is there for your entertainment! XD

Exactly.


besides, this entire season (excluding "justice") has been completely disapointing to me and has caused me a lot of grief in a "I can't believe I put so much time and money into this show, only to have to watch the crap they are dishing us this season"kind of way

And....we're back to total disagreement. ;)


Originally posted by vyperman7
[B]While it is true I hate these type of episodes, my main gripe is still the placement of it in the season. There are only a few episodes left to work with before the season ends. There are SO MANY loose ends to tie up and instead of doing this, we get a cheesy filler episode.

That's what Prototype and Phantom are for, not to mention the Season 7 premiere. Besides I doubt Noir won't have at least some storyline progression. We know something happens to Lana in the real world based on the spoilers, and I'd say it has to do with the major season events.

When's the last time we had a true "filler" episode anyways? I'm tempted to say Trespass but it added the "Lana suspects" storyline which is a big part of the season. You might count Combat but it was a big deal to have a fight episode and it was all about the Zoner storyline so I doubt most would. The last true filler was probably Subterranean and the last light-hearted episode was probably Sneeze. I'd say Smallville's long overdue for a filler considering the usual filler-to-mythos quantity of past seasons.

[vyperman7]

Crimson was light hearted for the most part , minus the stabbing of Clark.. :lol:

Instead of giving us two episodes of development why not give us a solid mini arc?

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, Ageless didn't incorporate anything from Blank.
well, ageless was an extreemly stupid episode, and it made me angry inside.

lets not compare the two episodes until this one airs. becasue i truely hated "ageless" with every fiber of my being, and i don't want it to be compared to an episode that might potentialy bring me a little bit of happiness.

[smallvillerocks45]

^^Really? You hated "Ageless"? I loved that episode...am I truly the only one on K-Site who liked it???

...back on topic...
If anything, I do think that "Noir" will be a fun watch, even if it is just filler. Yet, I think it will be more than that...it should be if it's going to air so close to the end of the season!

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
^^Really? You hated "Ageless"? I loved that episode...am I truly the only one on K-Site who liked it???

I think there are a few who liked it, but you are definately in the extremely small minority.

Ageless is without a doubt the most hated Smallville episode ever.

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon


And....we're back to total disagreement. ;)

awe. well, it was nice while it lasted. ;) :p



Originally posted by MidgardDragon


That's what Prototype and Phantom are for, not to mention the Season 7 premiere. Besides I doubt Noir won't have at least some storyline progression. We know something happens to Lana in the real world based on the spoilers, and I'd say it has to do with the major season events.

AGH!!! Please don't talk about spoilers!! I haven't read them, and i don't want to know! :(

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by vyperman7
Crimson was light hearted for the most part , minus the stabbing of Clark.. :lol:

Instead of giving us two episodes of development why not give us a solid mini arc?

I didn't count Crimson as light-hearted because the setup was but the payoff very much wasn't.

As for a solid mini-arc, I don't really care, at least we've gotten a solid overall arc this season. Wether you like Lexana, 33.1, and all the changing relationships that have happened this season, at least they've continually been tied together since at least Hydro.

But when has Smallville ever ended with three or more parters? It's generally the final two episodes plus the season premiere that are tied together by a solid mini-arc.

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45

...back on topic...
If anything, I do think that "Noir" will be a fun watch, even if it is just filler. Yet, I think it will be more than that...it should be if it's going to air so close to the end of the season!


There are a lot of things that Smallville should have done/should be doing. But should be rarely applies to Smallville. I have learned to keep my hopes/expectations extremely low with his show. That way when they pull off a good episode it is a pleasant suprise, and most of the time I am not shocked by reality setting in.. :D

At least an episode like Relic that was a period piece episode had a point to it and involved the show's mythology. This episode just seems extremely lame to me.


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
But when has Smallville ever ended with three or more parters? It's generally the final two episodes plus the season premiere that are tied together by a solid mini-arc.

I have always hoped for a solid arc leading into the finale. It has always frustrated me that Smallville doesn't give us better build up at the end. I was hoping that since this was S6, that they might do something different for a change.

With how busy I am at my editing school ( I finish in three months) I barely come on KSIte anymore, and I never read spoilers. I just watch week to week. So when I saw the preview for the episode, I just got really dissapointed. Through out Nemesis tonight I was happy with the way things were going and actually looking forward to the final eps. Then instead of seeing a preview for a great looking episode, we get cheesy Smallville noir.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by vyperman7
There are a lot of things that Smallville should have done/should be doing. But should be rarely applies to Smallville. I have learned to keep my hopes/expectations extremely low with his show. That way when they pull off a good episode it is a pleasant suprise, and most of the time I am not shocked by reality setting in.. :D

At least an episode like Relic that was a period piece episode had a point to it and involved the show's mythology. This episode just seems extremely lame to me.

You haven't even seen it yet so how could you have any clue if it has a point and/or involves the show's mythology? If Labyrinth showed us anything it's that dream episodes don't have to be pointless. Why not give it a chance rather than immediately assuming it's going to suck because it's not what you expected episode 20 to be?

[smallvillerocks45]

You make good points. Shoulda-coulda-wouldas don't always apply to Smallville...*shrugs* I guess I'm still on the *NEW* episodes high. I'll take anything I can get. LoL

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
You haven't even seen it yet so how could you have any clue if it has a point and/or involves the show's mythology? If Labyrinth showed us anything it's that dream episodes don't have to be pointless. Why not give it a chance rather than immediately assuming it's going to suck because it's not what you expected episode 20 to be?

I have always just never been a fan of these types of episodes. I was hoping that instead of giving us a filler episode with a chance of development, we would get solid episodes building momentum. I mean this late in the season, what is the point of having Smallville noir?

To me, this just shows a lack of ideas on the part of the writers.

Ask anyone, when I am wrong I come on the boards and admit it. If this episode turns out to be good, I will be the first one to admit I was wrong. But in almost 4 years of being a member of this site, and being a fan since day one, my instincts have usually proven to be right on the money.

But in the few times I have been wrong, I always admit to it. I have just learned to trust my instincts when it comes to this show.

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
^^Really? You hated "Ageless"? I loved that episode...am I truly the only one on K-Site who liked it???

...back on topic...
If anything, I do think that "Noir" will be a fun watch, even if it is just filler. Yet, I think it will be more than that...it should be if it's going to air so close to the end of the season!
yes. I honeslty and truely hated that episode. I have only watched it once. when my family wanted to watch the seasons for the first time, I watched all the seasons/episodes with them (and each of my family members watched the seasons at different times, so this is a LOT of smallville watching i was doing) and everytime we came to that episode, i would tell them that they had to watch it themselves, b/c i would not watch it again. and i will never watch it again. the same will go for the episodes "rage" and "subterranian" this season. I hated those episodes with a fiery passion as well, and i will never watch them again.

[citizenlen]

This last few eppies have been really dark, maybe Noir, no pun intended is sort of light hearted or maybe partly.

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
You make good points. Shoulda-coulda-wouldas don't always apply to Smallville...*shrugs* I guess I'm still on the *NEW* episodes high. I'll take anything I can get. LoL
omigosh, i was bouncing around the house after today's episode. with it being a great episode, and my excitement for next week after watching the preview for 'noir', I was flying on a smallville high. my family thought it was weird, and told me to calm down, but what can one do. I was happy! and especially after the day i had at work, i needed the happiness.

[sprman808]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
^^Really? You hated "Ageless"? I loved that episode...am I truly the only one on K-Site who liked it???

WHACK!!! OMG, what were you smokin? I want some of that.

To think AGELESS was worthy...:eek: it should've been titled "USELESS"...that's more appropriate.

[citizenlen]

I also hated Ageless except for the GT and LL interaction. Just as much as I hated Lucy. I nearly vomited watching Lex play Captain and Tenille on the piano with Lucy on the violin.

[maryjanewatson]

citizenlen, you have to be a little more specific when you put the initials "LL" because those are the initials of like 5 characters. lol.

[xrayvision]

My point in using Ageless was that it was also a filler episode that had nothing to do with the stuff that was happening near the end of season 4 and wasted valuable time that could have been spent developing something worthy.

Let's look at other episode 20's:

Obscura: This continued the storyline of Whitney's development into a likable character. It also delved further into the Roger Nixon storyline. It introduced Eddie Cole, the crop duster who saw Clark's ship (a story with a lot of potential that they never went back to). It also was the episode where Lex's crew headed by Dr. Hamilton found the octagonal key. A great episode.

Witness: A great episode. It continued the storyline of the refined bars of kryptonite from Lionel's safe and showed that they were valuable for something (the something was found out in Accelerate to be human cloning). We had some great scenes between Clark & Jonathan. This was the episode that set up the future Lionel vs. Chloe since this is when he found out about the Torch and the articles she wrote. He ransacked it, acted as if he had nothing to do with it and then inserted his influence to become part of Chloe's life. It also set up the wedge between Chloe & Clark that played somewhat big in Exodus. It was also the episode that Lionel learned of Lex's impending wedding to Helen.

Talisman: Without question, the best episode 20 out of any season. All about mythos and Naman & Sageeth. The prophecy comes true. Lex poses a question showing that he sides with the Sageeth character of the legend (since he knows it's him). Priceless.

Ageless: Total pure garbage. Only a few good scenes between Lionel & Genevieve.

Fade: The episode showed that even after Jonathan died, his influence on Clark remained. It had a scene propping the Lex-Fine collaboration. It also further played on the Clark-Lana breakup. The freak, though having a power that was featured before in Shimmer, was cool and it was refreshing to see Clark being friends with one before they fought. Could have been better but was very watchable. Much better than Ageless.

Noir: I hate this episode before I watch it because I thought the title was a reference to black kryptonite. After seeing the preview, I was just disgusted.

[freefall]

Well, we DO have real life stuff happening as well in Noir. The spoliers indicated that much with the Lois/Lionel confrontation and Jimmy/Chloe doing some investigations on their own, and probably Clark would too as well.

Just because all they showed in the trailers so far are only about the dream, doesn't mean the whole episode itself is going to revolve around that.

I do think this episode will lead into the finale.

[RedKalEL]

i'm with vyperman on this one it would be good but not at this point of the season it would have been fine earlier on but not now

[smallvillefreak24]

This episode seems cool, but I just hope it ties in with the story...

[redeem147]

I thought the trailer looked very cool, though it reminded me of the flashback episode of Lois and Clark. Maybe that's intentional.

I love it when shows experiment with their format.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

I think it'll be really awesome! I was laughing during the preview :lol: although it is not the best time for this, the official CW description describes some continuity of the plot :) so I'm looking forward to it

especially possibly hearing ED sing

omgosh!! I just looked at the sceen caps for Noir. this will be awesome!!!! I CAN'T WAIT!! I love all the period costumes, b&w, and everything!!! YAY!!

[maryjanewatson]

oooo, where can you look at screen caps? I really want one of clark in full clark kent mode! glasses and everything!

I am very excited for this episode! i can't stop thinking about it! XD

[I want Lana Lang]

this reminds me of an episode of Lois and Clark. They did the whole throwback black and white thing for an episode.

I hated it.

But hey, I'll give everything a chance. I thought Hydro was going to be horrendous and it turned out to be one of the best character driven episodes of the season.

[smallvillerocks45]

Originally posted by sprman808
WHACK!!! OMG, what were you smokin? I want some of that.

To think AGELESS was worthy...:eek: it should've been titled "USELESS"...that's more appropriate.

LoL! I LOVED it! :p

Seriously though, it really gave some insight into the evil doings of Lex Luthor. I mean, he promised Clark that he was going to donate Evan's blood to science, but really he kept it all for himself so he could do secret experiments. To just boldly lie like that was really an eye opener.

Also, didn't this episode show (for the first time) that meteor infected people pass on meteor powers to their offspring? I thought that was important, because it opened doors for other episodes -even Chloe's very own story arc (she most likely has powers because her mother does).


Anyway, I know this thread is supposed to be about "Noir"...and as it is, I think I'll enjoy the episode. Maybe it can't be worse than "Ageless", but then again, I liked that episode. ([Hypnotic and Magnetic were way worse, IMO)

[maryjanewatson]

chloe can't have powers because of her mother because chloe was born before the meteor shower, therefore her mom couldn't have had the power while she was having chloe.

[smallvillerocks45]

^^Okay...then I guess I was wrong about that part. I can admit that, but I still like the episode. I don't know why, I just do.

[wearetheborg]

Ageless is without a doubt the most hated Smallville episode ever.

Oh hell no.
What about that episode where lois,lana and chloe get possessed by spirits and drink clarks blood ?

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by wearetheborg
Oh hell no.
What about that episode where lois,lana and chloe get possessed by spirits and drink clarks blood ?
at least "spell" was funny. Ageless wasn't even that. it was just down right stupid in every sense of the word.

[Jack-El49]

This season's bomb was Subterranean, IMHO. Clark using his abilities openly in front of an illegal alien kid - come on. It didn't advance the story arc at all and was like some political statement about the issue of illegal immigration.

Any episode that can be plucked out of its original sequence of episodes and plugged somewhere else is a filler episode. It won't impact on the story arc. It may not be bad but it definitely is a stand alone episode.

Noir doesn't look that way because there is story arc progression in the current time that occurs during this episode. I think it's more lighthearted than recent eppys.

[foreversmallville]

I don't know. I thought Ageless was ok...I mean I wouldn't rate it a 10...but it made a point...I thought about parenting...and losing a child..but maybe no one read that into the episode.

Back to Noir...I think the episode will be great. I think it will be pleasent to watch and give the show forward motion.

[Heilige]

Talisman: Without question, the best episode 20 out of any season. All about mythos and Naman & Sageeth. The prophecy comes true. Lex poses a question showing that he sides with the Sageeth character of the legend (since he knows it's him). Priceless.


Man, that must have been a major high and ego-boost for Lex to realize he is Sageeth and is going to be a major person on the world stage, don't you think? If he knew he was Sageeth doesn't that mean he knew Clark was Naman right away? Lex neevr had any friends, and Naman was Sageeth's friend. So, he should have realized Clark was Naman right away, correct?

[xrayvision]

I think he's waiting to see who & where Naman is. What intrigues me is if he thinks Naman arrived on Earth yet or not. And if he does think Naman arrived on Earth already, does he think he came during the 1st meteor shower or the 2nd one, or maybe even during a meteor shower in another part of the world? Or does he or will he think that Naman came in the "rain of fire" that brought the zoners in if he already knows about that or when he finds out (if he ever does).

I have been saying that Clark should temporarily become a costumed hero using the name Naman. I would LOVE to witness Lex's reaction to that. That would be a great way to bring back the cave legend on the show and make things very interesting. It would also be good for the shippers if they have Lois fall for the hero/gimmick that is a pre-cursor to Superman. I can't believe they haven't gone this route.

By the way, the director's cut of Noir is out, and it looks pretty good. I'm not sure how much of the episode will have scenes like that vs. those pointless Smallville noir type scenes. I wouldn't be surprised if they used those noir scenes in scenarios that the characters start thinking of to try to find out how it was that Lana got shot. But I think Lionel has the look of the cat that swalloed the canary. I'm guessing the shooting is his way of letting Lana know who's pulling the strings.

[Krypton935]

That preview looked awesome. I admit it was a little awkward with all the 50's or 60's look but it looks really worthwhile. I can't wait!

[xrayvision]

^^Check out the director's cut at cwtv.com

That looks much better. I hope most of the episode is like that and they only use the noir scenes for scenarios that Clark, Chloe, Lois, or the cops create when they review the evidence and try to come up with what really happened. It would still be silly, but limiting those scenes to just that would be decent I guess.

I still wish that the title noir would have been a reference to black-k.


Originally posted by xrayvision
I have been saying that Clark should temporarily become a costumed hero using the name Naman. I would LOVE to witness Lex's reaction to that. That would be a great way to bring back the cave legend on the show and make things very interesting. It would also be good for the shippers if they have Lois fall for the hero/gimmick that is a pre-cursor to Superman. I can't believe they haven't gone this route.

One thing I forgot to mention is that I already have a cool idea for a Naman suit. I would make it look like the NightMan suit from the 1997-1998 show:

http://www.polarblairsden.com/nightman03.jpg

http://www.polarblairsden.com/nightman01.jpg

http://www.polarblairsden.com/nightman04.jpg

The changed I would make are:

1. Change the color to gray, this way, it would stand apart from the Superman suit later on. Another reason I would make it this color is because I would want to make a Clark vs. Kal-El war where the black-k seperation happens while Clark is wearing the suit, so that there would be 2 suits. After the seperation, I would have Kal-El be the one who would be the main one seen by the public wearing the suit. And since Kal-El would be more focused on stopping the bad guy even if humans were about to die and were in danger, making it a different color would further allow Superman not to be associated with such a Naman (who lets people die to stop the bad guy) by the general public (who don't know about the cave legend). But Lex on the other hand does know the cave legend and when Superman shows up he would know that Naman = Superman, and perhaps that ends justify the means nature of Kal-El doing his stuff while in the Naman suit would further push him to hate Naman/Superman and use his resources to stop him. This is how I set up the fanfic 2nd episode of the 7th season (episode 7.02) that I titled Clash:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73463

2. Change the cape color to yellow.

3. Add the Kryptonian symbol that represents the El family crest (the 8 inside the diamond) on the chest of the suit and make it yellow too.

4. Change the mask part into a yellow reflective visor that is connected to a rubber cap that would go over Clarks head and extend halfway down the back of his head, exposing some hair. I would make the visor portion of the visor-cap headpiece somewhat resemble the one the Eradicator wore when he was the Last Son of Krypton:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Supes80.jpg

But instead make it reflective so that they can't see his eyes.

5. I would make the suit more rubbery instead of a hard bulletproof polymer since Clark already has his invulnerability. Plus this would make such a suit cheaper, allowing it to fit Clark's budget.

[maryjanewatson]

I am still super excited about noir! I can't get it off my mind! XD

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by wearetheborg
Oh hell no.
What about that episode where lois,lana and chloe get possessed by spirits and drink clarks blood ?

Ageless is even less popular than Thirst. At least it is on KSite. I have been a member of this site going on 4 years now so I have seen a lot, and I can honestly say that I have never seen an episode that was hated as Ageless.

[meteor]

i think the circa 1940's styling and the black and white looks pretty cool.

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by vyperman7
Ageless is even less popular than Thirst. At least it is on KSite. I have been a member of this site going on 4 years now so I have seen a lot, and I can honestly say that I have never seen an episode that was hated as Ageless. actually, I think he was talking about "spell" and yes, ageless is more hated than that episode.


Originally posted by meteor
i think the circa 1940's stylistic and the black and white looks pretty cool. ya, me too! I am very excited for it!

omigosh, i just watched the director cuts for this episode.....this is already the best episode ever! XD

[Awesomeperson30]

All I am looking forward to is the black and white Clana. And hopefully Clana in the hospital after she gets shot.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by vyperman7
Ageless is even less popular than Thirst. At least it is on KSite. I have been a member of this site going on 4 years now so I have seen a lot, and I can honestly say that I have never seen an episode that was hated as Ageless.

I may hate Wither more than Ageless. The thing that really pissed me off about Ageless other than it was pretty much total sh!t was that it took place near the end when we were supposed to be picking up momentum for the finale. Content-wise, at least Ageless had those 2 Lionel-Genevieve scenes that were good. Wither had nothing. I hated it from start to finish. Our hero was shown bouncing a ball at the end when he could have easily run to any city/town in the US and hooked up with some girls and said the hell with the ones he's usually after.

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by maryjanewatson
actually, I think he was talking about "spell" and yes, ageless is more hated than that episode.

Yeah he was talking about Spell. For some reason I always seem to think of Spell and Thirst in the same context. Both are silly, cheesy, Halloween episodes. Although Thirst was better than Spell in my opinion. At least it had the scenes with AM and CF at the DP and a few other cool forshadowing moments. Spell was just flat out bad. The only entertaining part is TW's dancing.


Originally posted by xrayvision
I may hate Wither more than Ageless. The thing that really pissed me off about Ageless other than it was pretty much total sh!t was that it took place near the end when we were supposed to be picking up momentum for the finale. Content-wise, at least Ageless had those 2 Lionel-Genevieve scenes that were good. Wither had nothing. I hated it from start to finish. Our hero was shown bouncing a ball at the end when he could have easily run to any city/town in the US and hooked up with some girls and said the hell with the ones he's usually after.

Yeah Wither was god awful. But not quite as bad as Ageless. Ageless was just inexcusable. I just can't get over the plot of Ageless. A rapidly aging baby. The funny thing is that there was a show that lasted for 1/2 a season called Birds of Prey that had an episode with the exact same plot that aired before S4 of Smallville. It cracked me up when I saw that the writers ripped off BOP, which was actually a decent show in my opinion. The concept of it was cool enough anyway.

The Lionel-GT scenes were good. But the plot of Ageless and the unecessary Clana was just too much for me to take. I still can't get over the fact that Clark appears out of nowhere at the top of the tower right next to Lana, and she doesn't call him on it, or on the fact that he survives an explosion. Ridiculous.

In regards to Noir, I haven't seen the director's cut yet. How long do they usually keep them up on the CW's site? I searched the site high and low and could not find it anywhere.

[smallvillerocks45]

I think the director's cut lasts all the way up until the new episode airs. Just go to the cw website (cwtv.com) and click on the "video" tab. Once there, you can click on the "director's cut" link. I hope that helps!

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
I think the director's cut lasts all the way up until the new episode airs. Just go to the cw website (cwtv.com) and click on the "video" tab. Once there, you can click on the "director's cut" link. I hope that helps!

Yeah I did that when I went to the website the other day. I clicked on the video tab, and it played all the previews for the upcoming episodes. But no director's cuts.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by vyperman7
I still can't get over the fact that Clark appears out of nowhere at the top of the tower right next to Lana, and she doesn't call him on it, or on the fact that he survives an explosion. Ridiculous.

In regards to Noir, I haven't seen the director's cut yet. How long do they usually keep them up on the CW's site? I searched the site high and low and could not find it anywhere.

Not only that, but in Ageless Evan made a comment about horrible fathers and Clark with Lana next to him responded "trust me I know". Lana knows Jonathan Kent is a good father, and I think they were talking about biological fathers. She had no reaction to that statement from Clark like Chloe had in Truth when Martha made a reference to Jor-El.

The director's cuts are kept there through the day of the episode. Go to http://www.cwtv.com/video and click on the "director's cut" tab. Then in that window on the right, scroll down until you see the Smallville director's cut. There are 2 director's cuts for Noir.

I also found them on youtube, but sometimes the CW has them taken down until after the episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vbWq0J3JFg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXw6ocwTiKs

I wonder if this episode will be the reason Lois gets a job at the DP.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

Originally posted by maryjanewatson
at least "spell" was funny. Ageless wasn't even that. it was just down right stupid in every sense of the word.


I liked Ageless, it was funny because of the Clark and Lana parenting thing lol. worst episode in my opinion: Tomb


I saw the director's cuts for "Noir" and I'm proud of Lois finally becoming a reporter! stealing from the crime scene :lol: I'm excited :)

[maryjanewatson]

thursday is going to be a good day. I have the day off from work. I get to watch noir, an episode that looks like it is going to make me very happy, and then I get to go see the midnight showing of Spiderman 3!!!

I can't wait! XD

[sprman808]

Originally posted by maryjanewatson
thursday is going to be a good day. I have the day off from work. I get to watch noir, an episode that looks like it is going to make me very happy, and then I get to go see the midnight showing of Spiderman 3!!!

I can't wait! XD

DITTO!!! WOOHOO!

[LoisL]

Noir looks like it might be fun, cheesy, intriguing 2007 (director's cut), ridiculous '40s Clana/Lexois (trailer), and just a general hodgepodge. However, that is not a bad thing. It's kind of a relief actually after all the interestingly dark episodes we've been having; and while it's silly TV, it's not soap opera.

And Lois is back! I'm always surprised by how extremely and painfully I miss her during her absense considering that her presence is typically slight and the show definitely still goes on w/o her.

[kal-el_Girl]

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
^^Really? You hated "Ageless"? I loved that episode...am I truly the only one on K-Site who liked it???

Yes, I think YOU'RE the only one that LOVED the eppy, it was awful beyond repair, *throws up* :o

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Noir: I hate this episode before I watch it because I thought the title was a reference to black kryptonite. After seeing the preview, I was just disgusted.

So what you're really saying is, you're letting your own prejudices and misconceptions color how you see an episode that hasn't even aired yet. Despite the fact that Noir was never even *hinted* to be about Black Kryptonite and that in all the speculation and spoilers discussions everyone was pretty gung-ho about it being a Film Noir episode. And despite the fact that in the English language Noir is almost never used as a synonym for black and Film Noir was the obvious choice for what the episode would be?

That seems like a wise choice, deciding you hate something because it's not what you wanted it to be and never was going to be even though you haven't seen it yet.

[kal-el_Girl]

and noir is going to be a great episode, I cannot wait, Tom in Technicolor or BW still is hot!

and the whole film noir is a great idea people ok!! so stop judging something you haven't seen yet!

[vyperman7]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
So what you're really saying is, you're letting your own prejudices and misconceptions color how you see an episode that hasn't even aired yet. Despite the fact that Noir was never even *hinted* to be about Black Kryptonite and that in all the speculation and spoilers discussions everyone was pretty gung-ho about it being a Film Noir episode. And despite the fact that in the English language Noir is almost never used as a synonym for black and Film Noir was the obvious choice for what the episode would be?

That seems like a wise choice, deciding you hate something because it's not what you wanted it to be and never was going to be even though you haven't seen it yet.

MD

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. People usually feel one way or the other towards something and then change their minds based on how it turned out afterwards. Like I have said as well, I am not looking forward to this episode. It is placed at the wrong time in the season in my opinion, and is nothing much more than a cheesy filler episode.

Now if it turns out to be good, I will come on and admit to being wrong as I have in the past, the few times an episode I wasn't looking forward to turned out to be an enjoyable episode. However, everyone has the right to feel a certain way about something.

Please stick to posting about the episode itself and not judging peple for what they think of it.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
So what you're really saying is, you're letting your own prejudices and misconceptions color how you see an episode that hasn't even aired yet. Despite the fact that Noir was never even *hinted* to be about Black Kryptonite and that in all the speculation and spoilers discussions everyone was pretty gung-ho about it being a Film Noir episode. And despite the fact that in the English language Noir is almost never used as a synonym for black and Film Noir was the obvious choice for what the episode would be?

That seems like a wise choice, deciding you hate something because it's not what you wanted it to be and never was going to be even though you haven't seen it yet.

Let me rephrase myself. I'm disappointed that Noir is not going to be about black-k but will keep a somewhat open mind. What I saw in the director's cut looked good. I'm not sure what the ratio of actual timeline airtime vs. non-official film noir type airtime there will be, so I'm reserving judgment. I don't speak any French and only know that noir means dark/black from some film course I took at college. I'm not sure about word associations and whether or not what comes to mind when hearing that word, but I can surely say that black isn't the first thing that comes to mind when I think of the word onyx (instead I would think of stone or mineral).

That aside, I hope I'm wrong and the episode is good. I wish this type of episode would have replaced the horrible Wither that was unbearable for me to watch and they had a 100% real-time (in Smallville anyway) episode like Talisman was in season 3 or Witness was in season 2 that would be spent 100% building up to Prototype.

I am interested in seeing if my prediction about Lionel being the cause of what happens to Lana in that episode comes true. I don't read spoilers and will never read them since watching an episode when I already know what's gonna happen is pointless to me. The only spoiler type things that I do look at are previews and director's cuts and I wouldn't call these spoilers at all.

Between what the dc shows and an episode based on black-k, I would take the black-k anyday as it would likely kick ass. I'm hoping that black-k comes back in episode 7.01.

I'm with vyperman. If I like it, I'll post on the forum saying that it was good. For now, to avoid complete disappointment I'm guessing at best I'll have a mixed reaction to it.

[maryjanewatson]

*see's that it's getting serious up in here*

.....er.....clarks gonna wear glasses. WOOHOO!!!

*is still very excited about noir*

[I want Lana Lang]

I'll step in and say I LIKED AGELESS.



Then I'll duck for cover.

[GottaLoveHotSuperHeros]

I liked Ageless too =]] it was funny because of the whole disgusting Clana parenting, ok special fx too

NOIR TOMORROW!!! YAY!

[AngelaV]

I liked Ageless.

RUNS ...

runs back...
Oh and I can't wait to see SV do Noir film! :)

[Ares]

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[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by vyperman7
MD

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. People usually feel one way or the other towards something and then change their minds based on how it turned out afterwards. Like I have said as well, I am not looking forward to this episode. It is placed at the wrong time in the season in my opinion, and is nothing much more than a cheesy filler episode.

Now if it turns out to be good, I will come on and admit to being wrong as I have in the past, the few times an episode I wasn't looking forward to turned out to be an enjoyable episode. However, everyone has the right to feel a certain way about something.

Please stick to posting about the episode itself and not judging peple for what they think of it.

I do not feel I judged the poster, I feel I judged the poster's opinion, which I disagree with, that's all.