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Thesis
04-26-2007, 06:22 PM
How dark......Lana's gangsta!!!
uhhuhhim
04-26-2007, 06:27 PM
and I'm loving every minute of it! :)
aqgalaxy
04-26-2007, 06:39 PM
I KNOW LOVE LANA LIKE THIS!
TheRowdy
04-26-2007, 06:40 PM
Bout darn time!
Me too! Love Evilana. She's so much less predictable. In fact, she's pretty unpredictable.
jsofa
04-26-2007, 06:43 PM
I love Lana as a villian, she is so much better than sappy stupid Lana. and WHY is she out of love with Lex so quickly! What's not to love about Lex, rich and in love with her. I wish they would exploit her evil and I wish she were more in love with Lex!
I was about to b*tch you out, but I'm glad I read the rest of the post!
Go Lana go!!
She won't stay like that for long though, I actually don't mind the character when she has some spine.
Man of Steels45x
04-26-2007, 06:49 PM
IT'S ALL LEX'S FAULT that she's a $%$%%^% now
Kid Collins
04-26-2007, 06:50 PM
I'm loving angry Lana especially when their directed at the right people... Lex and Daddy Luthor. :D
WOW!!! I'm in AWE!!!! Now that is evil....... her using the baby.
Wow - lying is like second nature to her right now. She's standing up to Lionel - she's telling tales to Lex to draw him out. She's a Luthor through and through - I hope that she can find her way back from this version of herself. *shiver*
Honey45
04-26-2007, 06:56 PM
As much as I love cuteinnocentLana of seasons 1-3, I LOVE this new Lana!
They are really redeeming themselves with the writing of her character. She's so sneaky.. I love it.
I suppose she is "evil" with all the lying and manipulating, but you have to realize, she's only doing these things against the Luthors. I'm glad she got a backbone and isn't standing by anymore.
Ilovebeinglost
04-26-2007, 07:00 PM
She's a real Luther now. She's nothing like Clark. I don't care what she's been through Clark would save someone without thinking about it and she was going to let Lex die.
I did cry when Lex came back for Clark though. That little bit of good still in him.
svfan50
04-26-2007, 07:01 PM
O..I loved Lana in this.....I have never loved her more..!!!!!!!!!!
SeaNymph
04-26-2007, 07:02 PM
I loved her, too! I love the way she's standing up for herself against the Luthors. Awesome.
supermanfan04
04-26-2007, 07:03 PM
lana totally rocked in this episode. her story line was better than lex and clark's in my opinion...
jcore0429
04-26-2007, 07:03 PM
When did Lana change? When did this happen? Two months ago
i was kinda hoping she would take a bullet but now im rooting for her. Im so confused!!!
Kid Collins
04-26-2007, 07:04 PM
Lex is lucky that Clark was in the cave with him. :lol:
idunowinks
04-26-2007, 07:04 PM
evil lana kicks ass. i love that shes taking charge and playing lex, she got played to the highest extent.
Lostfan588
04-26-2007, 07:04 PM
Evil Lana is pretty awesome haha. :lol:
Evil Lex was pretty cool too.
Im pissed at Clark tho. Jeez, I mean right after Lex saves his life he repays him by almost kissing his wife. And then next scene his like Mommy maybe me and lex can be friends again? :lol:
Well, I thought it was a pretty good episode.
uhhuhhim
04-26-2007, 07:05 PM
It's character development like this that keeps me watching. I certainly wouldn't help the ratings to keep her like this or to have her go darker and darker...I loved every minute of it. I loved how evil she looked after she hugged Lex as he felt sorry for her as she talked about the "baby." Go Lana!
Kreukie
04-26-2007, 07:07 PM
That last scene between Lana and Lex was GREAT, AMAZING, WONDERFUL, WORDS CAN'T EXPLAIN!
I fall at the feet of Miss.Kreuk for being so AWESOME!
lissie14
04-26-2007, 07:08 PM
Woah. She's definitely desperate, and I can't blame her. o.o
Though it amused me greatly to see her playing Lex at the end. :-p
uhhuhhim
04-26-2007, 07:09 PM
I agree, Kreukie. And how she said, "You said there wasn't much time..." plus the look she gave Chloe...it gave me shivers. I wish she was like this in every episode...
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 07:10 PM
Lana sure does know how to lie like a rug. I like "evil" Lana much better.
svfan50
04-26-2007, 07:10 PM
But I didnt like..she spoke badly to Chloe...as if she doesnt consider her anybody..
Kreukie
04-26-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by svfan50
But I didnt like..she spoke badly to Chloe...as if she doesnt consider her anybody..
I think she was more annoyed that Chloe keeps hiding something from her... you gotta understand where Lana coming from, to her everyone basically hiding things from her.
Lex, Lionel, Clark and even her bestfriend Chloe.
do3mire
04-26-2007, 07:12 PM
I always thought dark Lana was great. She proved it again tonight. KK is so much better at playing this kind of character than the sweet pink princess.
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 07:13 PM
She was going to let her husband die in the tunnel. Maybe a little too evil for me come to think of it.
uhhuhhim
04-26-2007, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Kreukie
I think she was more annoyed that Chloe keeps hiding something from her... you gotta understand where Lana coming from, to her everyone basically hiding things from her.
Lex, Lionel, Clark and even her bestfriend Chloe.
Exactly.
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 07:15 PM
She was going to let her husband die in the tunnel. Maybe a little too evil for me come to think of it.
As was Chloe willing to do the same and I know this will some how be lost on some people here....:rolleyes:
think she was more annoyed that Chloe keeps hiding something from her... you gotta understand where Lana coming from, to her everyone basically hiding things from her
I don't think she talked to Chloe bad.......She was just playin dumb til she knew about Clark.
DawnFire
04-26-2007, 07:15 PM
well she figured he was the one who faked her pregnancy....I'd be mad enough to do that too
do3mire
04-26-2007, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by svfan50
But I didnt like..she spoke badly to Chloe...as if she doesnt consider her anybody..
Oh! I beg to differ. The scene could be a setup for a possible conflct between the girls. I always felt their friendship was a bit artificial even in the early seasons. I hope it comes to a head.
Kid Collins
04-26-2007, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by jaime,oburg
She was going to let her husband die in the tunnel. Maybe a little too evil for me come to think of it.
You gotta look at it from Lana's side. Lex drugged her, made her belive she was pregnant, she grieved for her baby that never existed and now she feels trapped in a marriage with a dude she hates.
She trusted Lex and he betrayed her in the worst way possible.
Kreukie
04-26-2007, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
As was Chloe willing to do the same and I know this will some how be lost on some people here....:rolleyes:
Yeah, I don't blame either girl for wanting Lex dead.
Lana more so, Lex seriously messed with her head.
SeaNymph
04-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
As was Chloe willing to do the same and I know this will some how be lost on some people here....:rolleyes:
I don't think she talked to Chloe bad.......She was just playin dumb til she knew about Clark.
I know! What Lex did to Lana was horrible...to me, as bad as what he did to Chloe. So why does Lana get crap for wanting to leave him down there, but not Chloe?
uhhuhhim
04-26-2007, 07:17 PM
And the only reason Chloe was searching for a way out too was because Clark was down there, not because of Lex.
darn Lana is evil!! at least she was not boring
haha she is being used!! (i think they are going to get lana out of the picture soon) dont hate me for saying the thing in parenthesis please!
actually it was quite interesting really liked it :)
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 07:21 PM
I like evil/manipulative Lana better then whiney/victim Lana anyday, but she was going to let her husband die in the tunnel...that was just really out of character IMHO.
CDLBLUE
04-26-2007, 07:26 PM
When Lex shot his sperm into Lana some of his evil went with it, it made her have some backbone , metal and grit for a change, after all that has happen to her, it's about time, but she will never be the girl that Clark was in love with again.
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 07:27 PM
Chloe felt like she didn't care if Lex died after what he did to her and her her mother but redeemed her emotional feelings at the time with something she advised Clark a while ago ....you can't pick and choose who you save. Lana didn't want to save Lex until she knew Clark was in the tunnel too. That was just ooc for Lana IMHO.
Kreukie
04-26-2007, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by SeaNymph
So why does Lana get crap for wanting to leave him down there, but not Chloe?
Because that's how things roll around these parts. :p
Theshadow129x
04-26-2007, 07:28 PM
i thought lana was awesome tonight and i usually hate her.
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 07:29 PM
Chloe felt like she didn't care if Lex died after what he did to her and her her mother but redeemed her emtional feelings at the time with something she advised Clark a while ago ....you can't pick and choose who you save. Lana didn't want to save Lex until she knew Clark was in the tunnel too. That was just ooc for Lana
Neither did Chloe, she didn't want to save Lex. I don't know how can you deny that, when she gave Clark her annoyed look when he was going to save Lex.
uhhuhhim
04-26-2007, 07:33 PM
I hope there's a fight between Lana and Chloe in the season finale, which will prompt Chloe's power :D
Jack-El49
04-26-2007, 07:33 PM
Think about what you're saying, Jaime. Put yourself in the character's position. People intentionally kill their spouses for far less reasons than what was done to Lana.
Lana wasn't going to kill Lex but she didn't have to save him either. Letting him perish as a result of his own malevolence is fitting, IMHO.
Out of character? Until this last season, Lana has never been put in such a position that would invoke this course of reasoning or decision-making.
xrayvision
04-26-2007, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
She's a real Luther now. She's nothing like Clark. I don't care what she's been through Clark would save someone without thinking about it and she was going to let Lex die.
I did cry when Lex came back for Clark though. That little bit of good still in him.
I agree that she's nothing like Clark, but neither is Chloe. And as I said last week (when Chloe shot the gas grenade), this is important because it shows why Clark is special & one of a kind in the morals dept.
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 07:37 PM
Batman did the same thing in his movie, his famous line to the bad guy before leaving. "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." If a hero like Batman could do it, so can Lana.
rooting 4 clark
04-26-2007, 07:40 PM
Lana is finally showing us what she's made of! She's not acting like the "little pink princess" every one thought she was!
uhhuhhim
04-26-2007, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Jack-El49
Lana wasn't going to kill Lex but she didn't have to save him either. Letting him perish as a result of his own malevolence is fitting, IMHO.
Exactly. If she had let him die, she would've gotten away with it. She could've told the police she took the computer home to see if the tunnel plans were there and then told them she found them, but it was too late.
Out of character? She's been pining for Clark for how long now? It wasn't out of character to sympathize with Chloe because she's in love with Clark and always has been, she wasn't out of character.
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 07:45 PM
Don't get me wrong, after what Lex did to both Chloe and Lana, both characters should want him to die, but Lana had the power to save her husband and choose to leave him to his fate.
Now I like that Lana is finally standing up for herself...but I don't think she would ever just let anyone die when she had the power to save them.
That's why I still feel this was ooc for Lana. I love that she is finally playing the Luthors with their own game.
clanafanforever
04-26-2007, 07:46 PM
ya i loved her here too i am just glad that she is on the goodside
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 07:47 PM
And if Chloe had the chance to save Lex she wouldn't have.
uhhuhhim
04-26-2007, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by jaime,oburg
I love that she is finally playing the Luthors with their own game.
In my opinion, the very fact that she's playing them is out of character, not because she didn't act fast enough for Lex.
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I agree that she's nothing like Clark, but neither is Chloe. And as I said last week (when Chloe shot the gas grenade), this is important because it shows why Clark is special & one of a kind in the morals dept.
He sure is and I am glad that his character was written that way for this epi.:D
xrayvision
04-26-2007, 07:51 PM
And last episode too (Progeny). :)
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
And if Chloe had the chance to save Lex she wouldn't have.
Please don't make this another Lana vs Chloe thread. Peace :D
Originally posted by xrayvision
And last episode too (Progeny). :)
Yes, more progression to Supes. Yay!:D
HotStudsSuccess
04-26-2007, 07:53 PM
And in the way Lana was pushing and playing with Lionel's hospital bed tube, while she payed him a visit.
Never let this woman, in my hospital room when she's this way :eek: Scary
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 07:53 PM
Please don't make this another Lana vs Chloe thread. Peace
Please don't make this another Lana hater thread with pure biased toward her. Lata:D
Khyla
04-26-2007, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by HeddyH
As much as I love cuteinnocentLana of seasons 1-3, I LOVE this new Lana!
They are really redeeming themselves with the writing of her character. She's so sneaky.. I love it.
I suppose she is "evil" with all the lying and manipulating, but you have to realize, she's only doing these things against the Luthors. I'm glad she got a backbone and isn't standing by anymore.
totally agree with the first part of this post... but you forget she's already included Chloe and Clark in her schemes; locking Chloe in the wine cellar's Refrigerator! (very evil!)
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 07:59 PM
Oh yah, the wine cellar where Chloe spent her entire life......errr I mean 2 seconds of her life.........
Darth Pipes
04-26-2007, 08:04 PM
Dark Lana is definitely the best Lana.
Clois is Canon
04-26-2007, 08:04 PM
Ladies and gentlemen.......
THE PINK PRINCESS IS DEAD!
I personally loved Lana in this episode, even though she's not really my favorite. She's finally got a spine! But I can see where there's definitely going to be some concern from Chloe as far as how Lana was acting while they were at the mansion.
The animosity between Lana and Chloe was nice, even though it didn't play much part in the show as a whole. I, too, have always thought that there was something about their friendship that wasn't quite right, because if they were such good friends then Lana would confide in Chloe about the "baby" and Lana would maybe ask for some advice or something. But it seems like she would rather go it alone, which is interesting since Clark and Chloe are so interested in making sure that Lana is safe before they completely declare war on Lex.
xrayvision
04-26-2007, 08:08 PM
^^I hope so. What I really want is for her to be an independent woman who doesn't use tactics like this when she's out of Lex's clutches, but instead is humble when called for it, yet tough when needed.
I'm still not sure since she behaved the same in episodes like Arrow, Fallout, and Static but has regressed. They better not make her regress after what Lex did to her.
Khyla
04-26-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Darth Pipes
Dark Lana is definitely the best Lana. couldn't agree more! I said the same thing in the pro lana thread :)
-- now Clark knows that she was planning on letting Lex die.... not good for his pure and perfect image of her,, That news, plus the implication that she may know more than she lets on, may begin to shatter his Lana-love fantasy world... well, it's about time something did! --
Go "Queen Luthor"! :)
do3mire
04-26-2007, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Clois is Canon
But I can see where there's definitely going to be some concern from Chloe as far as how Lana was acting while they were at the mansion.
The animosity between Lana and Chloe was nice, even though it didn't play much part in the show as a whole. I, too, have always thought that there was something about their friendship that wasn't quite right,
IMO, the most intriguing scene in the whole show. I've always thought their friendship (even in the early seasons) was not very believable. I hope they raise the conflict level between them. Although Lana "knows" Clark's secret, she doesn't know it like Chloe does. And, it looked like Chloe came close to telling her. How does Lana feel about Clark and Chloe? So many ways this could turn out.
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 08:21 PM
Why would Lana care about Chloe knowing when she now knows? There shouldn't be a conflict, because it's clear who Clark loves. I don't understand where this Lana vs. Chloe is coming from.
I'm still not sure since she behaved the same in episodes like Arrow, Fallout, and Static but has regressed. They better not make her regress after what Lex did to her
Regress like what?
Deana
04-26-2007, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Oh yah, the wine cellar where Chloe spent her entire life......errr I mean 2 seconds of her life......... Saint Chloe was forever traumatized from the event and will never fully recover. :lol:
Dark Knight23
04-26-2007, 08:23 PM
Lana has fully grasped the concept of how to be a Luthor which is so awesome!
smallvillefreak24
04-26-2007, 08:24 PM
I HEART LANA! SHE WAS COMPLETELY SPECTACULAR IN THIS EPISODE! SHE WAS GETTING BACK AT LEX AND LIONEL ... HER EVILNESS GAVE ME THE CHILLS! AND SHE WAS STICKING BY CLARK.. BOTTOM LINE: LANA LANG IS BACK
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 08:26 PM
Saint Chloe was forever traumatized from the event and will never fully recover.
Oh I know, she will never recover........I hear she constantly has nightmares about those 2 seconds............But wait, can a nightmare really be that short?:rotfl:
xrayvision
04-26-2007, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Why would Lana care about Chloe knowing when she now knows?
Because she knows Chloe knows the full story (weakness & all) whereas Lana doesn't. She doesn't expect there to be any more (like the fact that he's an alien) than the weakness (which she doesn't know yet) at this time.
Regress like what?
Like she regressed after Arrow & Fallout when she last started standing up to him (and then became all lovey dovey). I just hope that doesn't happen now, since that would be not a single bit believable. As long as the "love" is all an act, that's OK.
jimmyolsenblues
04-26-2007, 08:26 PM
To everyone, Please don't make this a shipper thread.
The basis of the thread is that lana was aggressive with lionel and lex regarding her situation.
That lionel forced lana into marrying lex into what lionel is saying is to protect clark by keeping lana close to lex.
This is really interesting plot and I believe pivotal to the entire series.
Please do not turn this into my ship is better than your ship thread as the thread will be dumped and a lot of intelligent debate will be lost. Please respect the rules of the board.
Thanks
Malicieux Toutou
04-26-2007, 08:26 PM
Angry, dark, vengeful, manipulative, but not evil. She's just fighting back against the people who have done evil things to her.
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 08:27 PM
Living in the Luthor mansion has certainly rubbed off on her. She has learned a thing or two. Good for her.:eek:
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 08:29 PM
Because she knows Chloe knows the full story (weakness & all) whereas Lana doesn't. She doesn't expect there to be any more (like the fact that he's an alien) than the weakness (which she doesn't know yet) at this time.
I see you went blue on me:eek: I understand that, but why is that a problem. I haven't seen Lana call Chloe out on that or show any dislike toward that. Like I said, it will be of very less importance to Lana, when she knows how Clark feels about her.
Like she regressed after Arrow & Fallout when she last started standing up to him (and then became all lovey dovey). I just hope that doesn't happen now, since that would be not a single bit believable. As long as the "love" is all an act, that's OK.
Oh, I get it, you mean toward Lex? Oh crap, that's so true. I mean, where did static come from? If you look at every episode this season, that one completely stands out.
xrayvision
04-26-2007, 08:32 PM
She acted like that towards Lex in Static too until she realized he was gone and then did a 180.
mrs. luther
04-26-2007, 08:33 PM
being in the luthor family has made lana sooo dark....... I LUV IT LOL i wish she would love lex the way she loves clark. lexana make a way sexier and unpredictable couple
xrayvision
04-26-2007, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I see you went blue on me:eek: I understand that, but why is that a problem. I haven't seen Lana call Chloe out on that or show any dislike toward that. Like I said, it will be of very less importance to Lana, when she knows how Clark feels about her.
I dunno. It just seem to me that she was annoyed or had some resentment against Chloe for knowing his weakness. She knows that Chloe knows the weakness because Chloe said "he will die". I wonder if she will go overboard & use her Luthor attitude against Chloe to find the weakness.
This is strange because Chloe last week was worried about Lana after Clark said the war is starting. She knows that Lana is in danger since she's in the mansion. It can set up an interesting situation between them if Lana does go overboard with her attitude. Not saying it's gonna happen, but there's always the possibility.
bibi_sv___clana4ever
04-26-2007, 08:38 PM
best lana ever!!!
way to go!!
do3mire
04-26-2007, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
To everyone, Please don't make this a shipper thread.
The basis of the thread is that lana was aggressive with lionel and lex regarding her situation.
That lionel forced lana into marrying lex into what lionel is saying is to protect clark by keeping lana close to lex.
This is really interesting plot and I believe pivotal to the entire series.
Please do not turn this into my ship is better than your ship thread as the thread will be dumped and a lot of intelligent debate will be lost. Please respect the rules of the board.
Thanks
Huh? Where did you get this entire list of topics this thread should be focussed on? Rather subjective on your part, dont you think?
I quote the opening post of this thread.
How dark......Lana's gangsta!!!
msleggie
04-26-2007, 08:41 PM
All I said through out the whole episode was HELL YEAH! I'm so happy that Lana was a bad a** throughout this entire episode. I now have new respect 4 Lana, I was not liking her character and I was ready for her to get every evil or bad consequence that was coming her way. But after seeing this episode, my opinion has changed! I've never been so happy and proud of Lana be4. The way she handled herself was awesome! Keep up the good work Lana!!!!!
AndiGirl
04-26-2007, 08:45 PM
I did like Lana a lot at first...when it was towards Lex. But then she even seemed dark with Chloe! It was weird..I understand Lex and Lionel. I loved every minute of that. But then she acted the same way with Chloe?!? This makes me think maybe Lana isn't going to have anyone to turn to. She won't trust the Luthers, and she won't go to clark and chloe because they won't fess up his secret. But i'm liking her a lot more now. :)
Creed0831
04-26-2007, 08:47 PM
I disagree with the term "evil" being used.
1. As mentioned it is only against the Luthors who diserve it.
2. She is only using whatever leverage she has now to dig herself out of the possition they placed her in.
3. Almost allowing Lex to die (her way out) was not too far off from what Chloe thought at the beining of the episode with Clark having her realize he shouldn't choose who he saves.
I do however enjoy seeing Lana have a backbone and not being the most oblivious guillible character on the show anymore. Def props for character development. She does have every right to feel how she does, and I loved the scene w/ her answer to telling Clark she wasn't going to marry him. Utter genious on her part to turn it back on him but in a sweet but manipulating way. He had it coming and it was her way of secretly getting to him w/o him knowing her intention. I would have done the same in that scene and I'm not "evil." Mwahahahaha!!! I just love how she knows everyones secrets but is keeping secret she knows them. For Clark it is out of love, for Lex it is out of hate.
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 08:54 PM
dunno. It just seem to me that she was annoyed or had some resentment against Chloe for knowing his weakness. She knows that Chloe knows the weakness because Chloe said "he will die". I wonder if she will go overboard & use her Luthor attitude against Chloe to find the weakness.
Hmmm, I don't know.....There isn't really anything could do to find out Clark's weakness. I mean, if she thinks he's allergic to meteor rocks all she would need to do is walk up to him with it. As for that Chloe scene, I'm not sure about the attitude part. I mean I think she already knew that Chloe knew everything. I don't get why she would suddenly feel resentment toward Chloe for knowing his weakness?
ninthdegree
04-26-2007, 08:56 PM
I really like lana like this and I agree with you creed0831, she's not evil she is just bringing out her strength and cleverness. If lana continues on like this I might just have to stop hating her.
AndiGirl
04-26-2007, 08:56 PM
She was pretty rude to Chloe. I was actually a bit scared of her in that scene! Kristen did an amazing job...to make me scared of tiny little Lana! haha. :)
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 08:57 PM
Yah, I was pretty scared too.....Then Chloe mentioned Clark's name and then BAM, nice Lana came back.
pleasenoclois
04-26-2007, 08:58 PM
I am a Lana and Clana hater, but I LOVE DARK LANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope she sticks around and doesn't go back to how she used to be.
Khyla
04-26-2007, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Oh yah, the wine cellar where Chloe spent her entire life......errr I mean 2 seconds of her life.........
Lana didn't know for certain that Clark would immediately come to the rescue... what if something or someone was detaining him?
She was literally gambling with Chloe's life (or at least a bad case of hypothermia). She didn't even have a coat on and it was probably 25-30 degrees in there, no to mention a limited supply of oxygen.
That's either a lack of , or very poor judgement on Lana's part....
.....or a blatant disregard for her "friend's" well-being, justifiably in order to satisfy her own curiosity!
Originally posted by do3mire
IMO, the most intriguing scene in the whole show. I've always thought their friendship (even in the early seasons) was not very believable. I hope they raise the conflict level between them. Although Lana "knows" Clark's secret, she doesn't know it like Chloe does. And, it looked like Chloe came close to telling her. How does Lana feel about Clark and Chloe? So many ways this could turn out. Totally agree!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
[B]Why would Lana care about Chloe knowing when she now knows? There shouldn't be a conflict, because it's clear who Clark loves. I don't understand where this Lana vs. Chloe is coming from.
Lana has often brought up the fact that Clark obviously trusts Chloe more than he trusts her, and that annoys her.
and , as was already mentioned .. Lana still doesn't know he's an alien, or his weakness, nor does she know ALL of his abilities.
xrayvision
04-26-2007, 09:00 PM
Yeah. But she probably has no reason to suspect that his weakness is kryptonite. Though you and I know that after all the alien stuff she's seen Clark linked to she should know by now (but that's another subject).
She did behave the same way with Chloe in the mansion as she did with Lex. The only reason I can understand for this is Chloe knowing about his weakness along with Lana wanting to let Lex die there without any witnesses and was annoyed when Chloe stuck her nose in her business.
Khyla
04-26-2007, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by do3mire
Huh? Where did you get this entire list of topics this thread should be focussed on? Rather subjective on your part, dont you think?
I quote the opening post of this thread. i think the thread must've got merged with another one :\
SmallvilleMan
04-26-2007, 09:06 PM
Lana didn't know for certain that Clark would immediately come to the rescue... what if something or someone was detaining him?
Then she would have done something, but it took Chloe literally two seconds to call Clark and he came. Chloe herself was in the wine cellar(counting when she walked in) for no longer than 2 minutes. You can't play what ifs, only can go by what u know.
That's either a lack of , or very poor judgement on Lana's part....
Like I said, she was in there for no longer than two minutes. Lana didn't wait for long.
Lana has often brought up the fact that Clark obviously trusts Chloe more than he trusts her, and that annoys her.
And Chloe has often brought up that Clark loves more. I'd rather have love over trust any day of the week and twice on sunday as would Lana from what i've seen.
Yeah. But she probably has no reason to suspect that his weakness is kryptonite. Though you and I know that after all the alien stuff she's seen Clark linked to she should know by now (but that's another subject).
Yeah, if she took the time to sit down and think she would figure it out. Her necklace is the key, all she has to do is think about that and boom, there it is. But like I said, if she doesn't have an idea what his weakness is, then there's no way for her to try and prove what it is.
She did behave the same way with Chloe in the mansion as she did with Lex. The only reason I can understand for this is Chloe knowing about his weakness along with Lana wanting to let Lex die there without any witnesses and was annoyed when Chloe stuck her nose in her business.
Yeah, it may have been the last part or what i may think it is, is that Lana's trying to get into her part......Because when she heard about Clark, like I mentioned in another thread, it was like a light went on in her head and the good Lana was back.
jaime,oburg
04-26-2007, 10:35 PM
Lana shouldn't have allowed her husband to die if she had the means to save him. I like dark Lana, but that's just too evil for me. She should be able to outsmart the Luthor's without stooping to their level. I don't expect the perfect pink princess but regardless of how the Luthor's have treated her she has better morals than that. Granted being married to Lex may have rubbed off on her, but I expect Lana to have taken the higher road like Clark did. Everyone has their reasons for wanted a world without Lex. Chloe was even shocked that Lana had the means to save Lex and was sitting on it. After all Lex has done to Chloe she even called lana on this. Both have the right to feel they want Lex dead but I too was surprised along with Chloe and Clark that Lana would actually have the means and not save him. Just don't let Lana go down a path that is dark enough meant only for someone like Lex.
Khyla
04-26-2007, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Then she would have done something, but it took Chloe literally two seconds to call Clark and he came. Chloe herself was in the wine cellar(counting when she walked in) for no longer than 2 minutes. You can't play what ifs, only can go by what u know. What I KNOW is that Lana DIDN't know for CERTAIN what the outcome would be, she had no guarantee that Chloe would only be in there for 2 minutes. She took a GAMBLE with Chloe's well-being. SHe didn't care !
... the handle broke when CLark tried to open it! The same thing might have happened if Lana went to open it, if Clark didn't show up. How long do you think it would take to get a welding company or locksmith out to break or take apart the hinges? would you want to wait inside a REFRIGERATOR for that long? (it wasn't just a wine cellar , it was the refrigerator INSIDE the wine cellar)
And Chloe has often brought up that Clark loves more. I'd rather have love over trust any day of the week and twice on sunday as would Lana from what i've seen. how does that have anything to do with what we're talking about here?
we're talking about the conflict/ resentment Lana feels toward Chloe, and why... and that Lana's not as geniune a friend as CHloe might think.
Yeah, if she took the time to sit down and think she would figure it out. Her necklace is the key, all she has to do is think about that and boom, there it is. But like I said, if she doesn't have an idea what his weakness is, then there's no way for her to try and prove what it is.
this is what i don't underatand. Right in front of Lana, Chloe said to Clark that she knows he'd rather be tied to a Kryptonite boulder right now than coming to the Luthor mansion [to rescue her] . Did that just go completely over her head, or does she really know more than she's letting on?
(i know she supposedly never heard of Kryptonite, but wouldn't she be asking Lionel about it?)
meteor
04-26-2007, 10:59 PM
how is Lana supposed to know what Kryptonite is? she has never in her life heard the term Krypton, let alone kryptonite.
Nospam
04-27-2007, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Neither did Chloe, she didn't want to save Lex. I don't know how can you deny that, when she gave Clark her annoyed look when he was going to save Lex.
I don't think Chloe was "annoyed" so much as she realized that it would be hypocritical of her to insist that Clark not save Lex when she herself told Clark in a previous episode that it would not be moral for Clark to chose who he does or does not save.
As many reasons as Lana and Chloe have for wanting Lex dead, I have a really hard time believing that either would really do nothing in the face of his impending doom. That would make them murderers by an act of omission.
jaime,oburg
04-27-2007, 05:21 AM
Yes, at the mansion Chloe called Lana on the fact that she had the power to save Lex and was just going to let him die. Chloe realized that even though both her and Lana have good reason for wanting Lex dead "you don't get to pick who you save". Lana didn't seem to share the same higher moral opinion of Clark and Chloe as evidenced by her willingness not to save her husband when she had then means to do it. Both Clark and Chloe were shocked at Lana's behavior at the end of the episode. So was I.
Nospam
04-27-2007, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by jaime,oburg
Yes, at the mansion Chloe called Lana on the fact that she had the power to save Lex and was just going to let him die. Chloe realized that even though both her and Lana have good reason for wanting Lex dead "you don't get to pick who you save".
The mansion scene clearly illustrates that regardless of the enmity she feels towards Lex, Chloe knew it was not right to leave him to die when there was a chance to save him.
Lana didn't seem to share the same higher moral opinion of Clark and Chloe as evidenced by her willingness not to save her husband when she had then means to do it. Both Clark and Chloe were shocked at Lana's behavior at the end of the episode. So was I.
I am actually very surprised and somewhat troubled that Lana was portrayed in this manner. I want to believe that Lana would have eventually made the right choice and contacted the authorities with the information she had, but it appears that wasn't going to be the case.
Chlois Supporter
04-27-2007, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by meteor
how is Lana supposed to know what Kryptonite is? she has never in her life heard the term Krypton, let alone kryptonite.
She knows Krypton from Zod. She knows that the aliens from the black ship, were the disciples of Zod, and that the meteor rocks were their home. So does Lex, because apparently Lana told Lex which is why Lex tried to use the Kryptonite on Zod.
In Arrival, Lionel told Lana "The disciples of Zod, they must be stopped. Their home, is their only poison." then when she met Zod in Lex's body he said "You will be the witness, to the end of the human era, and the rebirth of Krypton." She knows where kryptonians come from. She herself has said the name of the planet to Lex.
jaime,oburg
04-27-2007, 08:26 AM
So then Lana should be able to put 2 and 2 together and realize Clark is more than a meterior freak. He is also an alien from the same planet where Kryptonite is something that he really rather avoid. After seeing Clark use the same abilities as the aliens from the black ship and over hearing the Chlark conversation in the wine cellar, a light bulb should have gone on over Lana's head.
meteor
04-27-2007, 08:33 AM
How many times should the light bulb have gone off in everybody's head with regards to Clark's secret? there'd be no show if everyone figured everything out when they should have.
Ultron
04-27-2007, 12:03 PM
I like how Lana is fighting back now, and this time adapting to the environment that she's in, which is Luthorville.
Another-One
04-27-2007, 12:12 PM
Lana is hardly evil.
She has deffinately gotten shady but evil? Please....
Myrddin
04-27-2007, 07:58 PM
Whole new level of respect for Lana now.
Loved her this ep!!!!
Originally posted by Khyla
She didn't even have a coat on and it was probably 25-30 degrees in there, no to mention a limited supply of oxygen.
The correct temperature for a wine cellar is around 55 degrees. Also, the cellars are ventilated - ours is. I can be in their for hours and have no worries about oxygen. or freezing - although I would get cold.
Khyla
04-27-2007, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Myrddin
The correct temperature for a wine cellar is around 55 degrees. Also, the cellars are ventilated - ours is. I can be in their for hours and have no worries about oxygen. or freezing - although I would get cold. sorry, i meant to say 35-40 degress which is the correct temp. for a refrigerator.
She was inside a refrigerator than was located inside the wine cellar.
Cold, lying, manipulative, spiteful, spying b*tch who kills her family for lying back to her suits Lana so much more than perfect pink princess.
Krypton935
04-28-2007, 08:45 AM
I frickin love Lana like this! It's great! every stinkin minute is great. I go back and watch season 2 or 3 and I'm like "holy... is that really Lana?" It's crazy!
jaime,oburg
04-28-2007, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by meteor
How many times should the light bulb have gone off in everybody's head with regards to Clark's secret? there'd be no show if everyone figured everything out when they should have.
Can't argue with that meteor.....so true so true!:lol:
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