Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of Nemesis? [Archive]

xHerox

04-26-2007, 07:09 PM

Wow! This episode had an amazingly character-driven plot, something I really didn't expect from the title and previews. I thought it was really well done and this was just what the season needed - not a "gimmick" show and not just a Freak of the Week filler.

I know that the main story was supposed to be the Clark/Lex plotline, but I found myself totally engrossed in the Lana/Lionel scenes. We don't get to see them interact much at all and I've been wanting to see what would happen between those two since "Promise".

My local network did black out for a portion of the show, but I think it was for seconds at best. I was pretty disappointed because I was thoroughly engrossed in this episode and I think that this will be regarded as a very important episode plot-wise for season six.

It's also refreshing to see a Smallville episode (except for "Promise") that doesn't rely on too much action to get the story across.

Plus, I have to say that Lana really stole this show. I know there are a lot of Lana-haters out there but this episode proved - at least to me - how integral she is to the show and much of a loss it would be if she left or something like that.

For these reasons, I'm giving this episode a 9.

Kid Collins

04-26-2007, 07:09 PM

I loved angry Lana especially when their directed at Lex and Lionel!

I didn't like the ending with Clark kind of blaming himself for how Lex turned out. Lex has to take responsibility for his actions. Lex being the poor victim is over!

And the Clana chemistry was front and center in this ep. Only those two can turn a hug and a stare into something really memorable and hot!

I rate this ep an 8. Waay better than last weeks Progeny.

redraven

04-26-2007, 07:10 PM

10! Definite 10! Even though it wasn't a perfect episode, it was 400 billion times better than Progeny was. I wasn't bored at all during this eppi (like I was in Progeny), and I loved all of the interactions between the characters.

And speaking of things I loved in this episode...

I loved the Clex interaction, angry/manipulative Lana, the Clana hug scene, Chloe's line to Clark on her cell phone, how amazingly good Clark looked, no Lois, and I also loved that this episode wasn't as confusing and plothole-filled as the last one.

naffles

04-26-2007, 07:12 PM

A ten.

Okay, I'm definately not Lana's biggest fan, but she kicked some serious ass tonight. I love, love, LOVE her manipulative vengence kick.

Chloe's little voice message made my inner Chlarker (as well as my squee-ing outer one) very happy. Great line.

I really liked the brief return of the Clex friendship. It was one of my favorite aspects of the show, and I miss it dearly.

This just might be my favorite episode from this season. Unfortunately, that isn't saying too terribly much.

OH! AND THE SUN! OMG! So, like, permanent flying is the only check off the Superman power-mythos, right?

Mr.

04-26-2007, 07:13 PM

amazing!!! rate it a 10

lex saves Clark, Lionel says...saving Clark...,Lana all in the Luther mood, Clark confused about Lexana and Chloe joking on gf...

simply amazing but now i am confused who is saving who on what about what .....
impressive!!! excelente!!

loistickyfingerz

04-26-2007, 07:13 PM

Minus the Clana BS soap-opera crap, I thought it was a great episode. back to good ole Clark vs. Lex, or Clark and Lex, which is it? Nice.

I'm so sick of Lana. yes, she was good and evil tonight and that was fun, but it's so far removed from what she was originally presented as, I find it hard to buy into. I still find Lexana hard to buy.

redkrypclark

04-26-2007, 07:14 PM

i agree it wasnt perfect but it was pretty damn good and wow i feel a lil bad for lex everytime he thinks he has something figured out clark throws him a curveball (accidentally of course) i mean like the time he punched clark and got clark to bleed, now with the pierced arm and all the ugh i can not lift a boulder lol love it.

bball44j

04-26-2007, 07:14 PM

What was that thing in the video of the Ares CD?

redkrypclark

04-26-2007, 07:19 PM

it was a phantom attacking people

STFanatic

04-26-2007, 07:21 PM

Plus = MB!!!!

Plus = Dark Lana

Minus = Clark the wimp

Ginx

04-26-2007, 07:25 PM

I gave it a 7 out of 10. Good episode but Clark is back to thinking Lex is his sorta buddy again. Turn a blind eye anyone. :\

Lana was more proactive at getting what she wanted - for better or worse her character is growing more into a Luthor. But I guess you need to become your enemy in order to understand it.

Lionel was cryptic - using Lana to save Clark - what about Lex? Does Lionel also see Lex as the enemy and just plays nice to make sure he stays on the inside track? A bit strange that Lionel is on the side of the angels - I see a bit of a devil still in him yet.

Glad Lex came back but at the same time - it would have been so much better if he hadn't - it would have been the final nail in the coffin. But I can understand why that can't happen just yet. Ultimate betrayal is on the menu for another day.

Glad there were some consitency tie-ins from the last few episodes. The chisel, baby-ref, Lionel's behavior, things said etc. Hopefully they will build more off of that. The chisel reference to me was a big deal - Lex is saying out loud that he saw the chisel and that he knows that Clark is not being on the level with him.

Martha also revealed that she does hang out with Lionel but that she doesn't fully trust him. So she's taking a page from her son's book then? I'm glad Martha isn't entirely with Lionel but at the same time - she sure seems like she is.

Overall - good episode for character emotional turmoil. Not a lot of phsycial action - but the episode held it's own.

lillie_poo_pod

04-26-2007, 07:28 PM

Gave this episode an 8. Loved the Clex. When Lex came back and was all like I wouldn't leave you down here. I had to say AWWW. That was nice.

Lana-eh. Good?? Evil?? I just don't give a damn anymore.

Not feeling good Lionel. Matter of fact. I HATE IT. I want my MB back. *sobs*

All together it was a good episode.

RJLCyberPunk

04-26-2007, 07:29 PM

Wow what a terrific episode!
Despite the fact that many on this board loathe the Lana Lang Character I think Kristin Kreuk outdid herself playing it this time around. Not only that we are finally seeing how the Lana Lang from the comic books actually is. Not shy at all and extremely assertive I mean in the comic books and animated show she even had her own company and all and will always be a great friend to Clark but their relationship will never be that of lovers that is what we are seeing being developed and is awesome.
A oerfect 10 for this one.
Sadly the upcoming one Noir just looks like your average filler from what I saw in the add...
Funny I recall that in Lous & Clark they also made a Noir type BW episode. Guess originality was thrown out the window for that one...

redkrypclark

04-26-2007, 07:30 PM

that was something i found to be pretty much the only flaw i had with the episode was lex coming back to save clark and then clark sitting here thinking ok we can be friends again when just last week lex was threatening chloe and what the hell clark went on this great rampage about a war but no now we have to wait even longer im getting tired of playing the waiting game dang it

Lexgirl33

04-26-2007, 07:33 PM

It wasnt a great episode but wasnt bad. Didnt really advance the relationship between Clex. I gave it a 7

Ilovebeinglost

04-26-2007, 07:36 PM

I gave it a 9. It was fast, exciting and not too soapy!!!

yeah!!!

spideyfan

04-26-2007, 07:49 PM

Not a big fan of the Clana but agood episode indeed....I would like Clark not to second guess Lex as a good human at this point though.

ANyway, 8/10

meteor_phreak

04-26-2007, 07:56 PM

not a big fan of clana either, but i'll forgive it for this, one of the best epis of the season easily...

i gave it 10 / 10

Jack-El49

04-26-2007, 07:56 PM

I thought this episode absolutely rocked. I gave it a 10. KK was really on her game in this one, MR and TW played nicely off each other, AM was really convincing when she said, - "after what he did to my mother..." - nice continuity and we get to see a bit of the non-controlled mind of Chloe being pissed off to the point of saying she didn't care if Lex died down there. Even AO's scene with Clark where she tells him she doesn't trust Lionel was great.

Darth Pipes

04-26-2007, 08:03 PM

Really good episode tonight. I think Smallville's been on a role lately. Definitely one of Lana's best episodes. Her scenes with Lionel (particularly the first one) were great. Nice to see Lex and Clark helping each other out. Not to mention the fact we get to see Helo from Battlestar Galactica! I wonder why his wife didn't download into a new body. ;)

jimmyolsenblues

04-26-2007, 08:18 PM

i loved the episode because it showed me why i watch smallville.
i want to see smallville expand on the superman mythology.
why does clark have hope for everyone.
why does lex always go evil?
why does lana never expose clark.
igot to see some of that tonight.
it was a great episode.

CallMeClark

04-26-2007, 08:22 PM

I gave it a 9 out of 10. I enjoyed it a lot. Plus I like mean Lana.

drufan

04-26-2007, 08:53 PM

Marvelous! What a buffet! We got adult Lana, Martha right in the vipers den watching out for her son and Clark, hope springing eternal. They are by no means buds, but we see where the Bats and Supes differ. With such overwhelming power, Superman has to see the good. Batman can afford to see the other side.

Let's not forget Lex. He's already too far down the path to turn back but there are kinks in that armor. Kudos to the dialogue and the story.

KK gets a well done! She delivered her lines like a pro. The side stories were just as engaging as the main. Then they prepped us for the season finale with good ol' Helo. Guess since we won't see BSG until next year he needed a day job.

Markd329

04-26-2007, 09:01 PM

Excellent episode. I gave it a 9 out of 10.

Clark and Lex verbal sparring session was great but it was eclipsed by Lana's dark turn. Watching her scenes with Lionel was stunning, and watching her tell Lex that DIRTY LIE to his face was a hoot. If I were the Luthors, I would NOT turn my back on her for one minute. She's the snake in their garden, and when she is ready, she will bite them and inject her poison on theboth of them.

Can't wait to see Helo [oops, wrong show! My bad!] come back in "Prototype", maybe he'll spar with our Clarkie!

kalelnica

04-26-2007, 09:02 PM

Best episode since Crimson, Im glad lionel and lana had the talk but i would like that to be revealed also.

BadToad

04-26-2007, 09:03 PM

I thought this was a really, really good episode. Not perfect, so no 10 from me, but this one rates a solid 9.

I loved the Clex stuf. I wanted a ton more of it. But I thought MR and TW did a fantastic job of allowing us to see the people they once were, and the friendship they once had. Finally, the regrets seem clear on both sides, and it was awesome to see.

And Lana was freaking scary, but I liked it. This is one bitter, pissed off woman, but she wears it well. I get the sense that the only person Lana cares about is Clark. And I loved her twisting the knife on Lex in their last scene. Didn't that seem like something Lex would do? Well played by KK.

And I thought the episode was really successful in making me wonder what the heck is going on, what is Lex doing, how is Lionel protecting Clark and from what....I want to know. And IMO that means the episode did a good job.

And Chloe's phone message was a smile moment in the middle of an intense episode.

Thumbs way up on this one.

redkrypclark

04-26-2007, 09:04 PM

i heard we were to expect a bizarro superman in the finale i was presumming that would be a seperate story from prototype like ares in prototype then bizarro but i guess now knowing clark beats ares lex will finally know that clark is who he thought he was(sorry didnt mean to go dennis green here)

msleggie

04-26-2007, 09:31 PM

I gave it a 9, only b/c I didn't like that Chloe and Clark didn't huge or acknowledge the message or any other kind of warm interaction that they usually have. Other than that, this was one of the best episodes of the season.

Lavenderrose73

04-26-2007, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by spideyfan
Not a big fan of the Clana but agood episode indeed....I would like Clark not to second guess Lex as a good human at this point though.

ANyway, 8/10
I very much agree. The thing I appreciate about watching the really older repeats is that Clark and Lex are still friends. This was a very good episode, though, although I don't like shows where people are trapped in something. I gave it a 7. Also, when did "Nemesis" first come on the board, when the show started? It seemed to build up so fast!

Smallvilledabest

04-26-2007, 10:18 PM

i gave it a 10 kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time. Lana rocks.

Bosrudorfer

04-26-2007, 10:19 PM

I liked it but it seemed to be over before it began... KK is sexy as usual!

MidgardDragon

04-26-2007, 10:23 PM

I gave it a 9 because it seemed like not a whole lot happened despite being a great episode. The episode focused less on Clark and Lex than I expected, was kind of hoping for at least some sort of man-to-man. Nothing too feely but at least something.

Still a great episode, probably deserving of a 10 but I had to knock off a point due to the feeling of it not being a lot of forward progression.

quietone

04-26-2007, 10:23 PM

Wonderful ep. Solid 9 out of 10.

Loved the Clark/Lex interaction. TW/MR were fantastic. It was great to see that they both still think about their friendship and what went wrong.

Also loved the Clark/Martha loft scene at the end. Martha's line about Clark's greatest strength being his greatest weakness gave me chills. That's the mother/son interaction that's been MIA this season.

Dark!Lana was very intriguing. And I liked her back and forth with Lionel. That end scene with Lex was creepy good. However, there's no way she's going to outsmart Lex and Lionel. Especially Lionel, he's too smart and has been playing games longer than she.

Speaking of Lionel, I really want to know what he's up to. Seems like he's playing both sides of the fence but that's what makes him magnificent.

Only nitpicks: no Shelby and no Clark/Chloe reunion at the tunnel.

jack1487

04-26-2007, 10:28 PM

I gave it a 10, liked the Clark and Lex moments. Lex's needs to watch his back for Lana will be trucking up his back side. Also would like to know what she and Lionel talked about. Anyhow an excellent episodes.

Jack

BWOracle

04-26-2007, 10:33 PM

Just finished up on the West Coast.

BEST LANA EPISODE IN THE HISTORY OF SMALLVILLE (Except maybe Nicodemus).

Lana definitely was in top form. Devilish (not fully evil since she's just looking for payback), forceful, strong, intelligent, manipulative, and looking really hot in all black. And her aim with a gun has really improved.

Her interactions with Lionel were a case in point. First showing up at Smallville Medical Center without a concussion or unconscious (first time in a long time). Dispatching Martha for the tea so she could approach Lionel alone. Manipulating the Doctor with her doe eyed "If my husband dies that man lying in that room is the only family I have left". Pinching Lionel's IV tube while saying that it's good that he's in alot of pain. And especially the line that with Lex trapped "I'm in charge of your medical decisions today". Finally, snatching the briefcase away from the police without a search warrant.

And again, facing Lionel at the end more or less as equals with "tell me what's going on."

I also liked that she has learned a valuable lesson from the Luthor's -- never tell them what you know. Her scene at the end with Lex was very well manipulated and she got to get in a few jibes without Lex realizing it: "What did I do deserve you."

Chloe had some good scenes with the awkward phone message and not caring whether Lex was cohabitating with the rats for all eternity.

There was also good Clark/Lex interaction and Martha/Clark interaction in the end.

IMO there were no significant flaws in the episode and it moved the plot towards the season finale with the prototype and phantom references.

I'm a so-so Lana fan but the Lana scenes are why I gave this episode a 10.

clana20

04-26-2007, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by quietone
Wonderful ep. Solid 9 out of 10.

Loved the Clark/Lex interaction. TW/MR were fantastic. It was great to see that they both still think about their friendship and what went wrong.

Also loved the Clark/Martha loft scene at the end. Martha's line about Clark's greatest strength being his greatest weakness gave me chills. That's the mother/son interaction that's been MIA this season.

Dark!Lana was very intriguing. And I liked her back and forth with Lionel. That end scene with Lex was creepy good. However, there's no way she's going to outsmart Lex and Lionel. Especially Lionel, he's too smart and has been playing games longer than she.

Speaking of Lionel, I really want to know what he's up to. Seems like he's playing both sides of the fence but that's what makes him magnificent.

Only nitpicks: no Shelby and no Clark/Chloe reunion at the tunnel.

I would agree with much of what you said, and since its the last post I thought I would quote it.

Martha's line to clark at the end was very good. And Lana was excellent in this episode. Only i would disagree with the last line. I loved that they didnt show chloe and clark at the end. There was meaning to having Lana go up to Clark and the look between them was great! And the other thing is that I sincerely hope that shelby gets killed by the phantom in the next few episodes so people will stop talking about her.

ChaaBreh

04-26-2007, 10:43 PM

I rated it a 10 also; I have to say that Kristen Kreuk stole the show tonight, and I'm NOT a Lana fan. She was absolutely chilling, especially at the end with Lex. I actually felt sorry for Lex because I believe he really loves Lana but the darkness has taken him over (just like his mother told him - he could have had everything, but he didn't follow the path she suggested) -

I believe now that Lana will be leaving the series with a fake death. If the spoilers are true and she will have YET ANOTHER car accident running away from ANGRY LEX (visions of Episode 100 Reckoning) - I believe Martian Manhuner will save her - possibly since he is a shape-changer, he will help her fake her death to get away from Lex. And to protect Clark, Lana will leave the country. This will align itself with the comics, where Lana is so broken up by Clark's leaving to travel the world and find himself, that she leaves Smallville for at least a decade, following Clark's exploits in the newspapers. During this time, Clark falls in love with Lois, and by the time he runs into Lana again, they become best friends, although Lana always loves Clark.

Bosrudorfer

04-26-2007, 10:51 PM

Isnt there a rule not to post spoiler speculation in episode discussions?

BTW I actually agree with your theory ;)

RMF

04-26-2007, 11:12 PM

I almost threw over the series after the awful "Promise", but decided to hang on through this episode because I love Clark and Lex. I think there have been only four scenes with the two of them all season, and they were mostly about Lana. One big plus of this episode is that most of the conflict here is not about her but about their friendship, which is far more important. The appeal of a "bottle" show is that you can put two characters who play well off one another in an intense situation and watch how each reveals who he really is. There were many good moments, but I was somewhat disappointed that they only scratched the surface of all the issues between them.

Clark doesn't have a great enthusiasm for saving Lex here, but just as in "Progeny", his instinct is still to help someone in trouble. Lex seems to have developed a convenient amnesia about his role in breaking up their friendship, and exhibits a manipulative self-pity about his failure to get people to love him. He believes himself to have been entitled to Clark's trust, no matter what he may have done to abuse it. The irony is, of course, that the one thing that he legitimately faults Clark for -- keeping the truth from him -- is what is keeping Clark safe from him now. I have mixed feelings about the writers having Lex come back to rescue Clark from the rubble. On the one hand, the arrogant, duplicitous Lex of "Progeny" was so much fun in the wake of episode after episode of Lex being Lana's b!tch that I wanted a Lex who would leave Clark behind to save himself. I have to go with what they did here, though, because the point was to lead into the final scene between Clark and Martha and what it told us about Clark. They went for that iconic characteristic of Superman -- seeing good in everyone -- that was validated by that brief glimpse of his old friend in the cruel and corrupt present-day Lex. If the writers are smart, then no matter how enraged at Lex Clark has been of late, and no matter how much Clark wants to bring him and his evil plans down, Clark will never forget this insight again.

I was unimpressed by Lana in this episode however. Sure, she was Machiavellian and cold, but it seemed like just another convenient reinvention of the character. When she was menacing Lionel in the hospital, in spite of how wicked Lionel has been over the years, she just seemed repulsive. I didn't cheer for her at all, even in some sneaky backhanded way, because she seemed to think that Lionel and Lex deserved to die for coercing her into marriage. They certainly deserve to get their a$$ses kicked, but to die? Also, I just couldn't help but be distracted by the fact that if you pinch an IV, alarms will go off all over the place. You just can't torture or kill someone that way. Besides, even at death's door, Lionel outwitted her in all of two seconds by claiming he was only protecting Clark. And Lana taking the briefcase away from police? Pull-eeze. The one good thing about it was that Clark actually became aware of her harshness in leaving Lex to his fate. I just hope they don't later validate Lana with Clark and Chloe when they find out what Lex and Lionel did to her.

vyperman7

04-26-2007, 11:27 PM

This was the first epiosde in awhile that I was looking forward to. I have been watching on TV since the Pilot and since the beginning the Clex relationship is my favorite aspect of the show. This episode had some great dialogue in it, and the line where Clark says "I saw something in Lex I haven't seen in years. I saw my friend." That line actually gave me chills. I used to be one of the biggest fans of this show out there but my love for the show has just been steadily declining ever since S4. But moments like that remind we why Smallville used to be my favorite show on the air. They also had some cool forshadowing in regards to Clark with the scene where he is recharged by the sun. Now I know that it probably wasn't intentional, but I liked the fact that they pointed towards Clark gaining more of a tolerance for Kryptonite now that he is getting older. While he is still vulernable, he wasn't unconscious like he usually is. He was actually moving around through Kryptonite in this episode. Now like I said before, this probably wasn't meant as a sign to show him getting stronger with age. But at least it came off that way.

One of the few episodes where I liked Lana. I really enjoy the proactive side of Lana. One reason why I always disliked the character is because she was made out to be the center of attention and the obsession of every guy in Smallville. Then to top it off, she would always play the helpless victim. But I actually like Lana when she gets proactive and doesn't take crap from people. It makes her a hell of a lot more interesting. Also, the Clana relationship is more tolerable to me now. I still hate the Clexana triangle and I have never liked Clana. But this is the first time since S1, where it actually doesn't bother me. This feels like a different type of Clana where Lana is actually pulling her weight, and the fact that it will never happen how, makes it more tolerable. As long as they stay with proactive Lana, and the glances from a distance it will be fine with me. At least we don't get the "be honest with me" crap anymore.

God AM is just SO HOT! Man, AM is looking so good lately. I loved the comment she had when she left the message on Clark's phone. It still pisses me off that the writers continue to tease something that will never happen. But I just can't help myself. I will forever be a Chlarker.

One of my favorite eps of the season and I give it a solid 9/10.

Next week's episode looks absolutely terrible. I have never been a fan of period piece episodes. Especially when it comes this late in the season. Instead of taking the time to develop the weak plot this season and build some momentum going into the finale, they waste time on "Smallville noir"... :(

Originally posted by RMF
I was unimpressed by Lana in this episode however. Sure, she was Machiavellian and cold, but it seemed like just another convenient reinvention of the character. When she was menacing Lionel in the hospital, in spite of how wicked Lionel has been over the years, she just seemed repulsive. I didn't cheer for her at all, even in some sneaky backhanded way, because she seemed to think that Lionel and Lex deserved to die for coercing her into marriage. They certainly deserve to get their a$$ses kicked, but to die? Also, I just couldn't help but be distracted by the fact that if you pinch an IV, alarms will go off all over the place. You just can't torture or kill someone that way. Besides, even at death's door, Lionel outwitted her in all of two seconds by claiming he was only protecting Clark. And Lana taking the briefcase away from police? Pull-eeze. The one good thing about it was that Clark actually became aware of her harshness in leaving Lex to his fate. I just hope they don't later validate Lana with Clark and Chloe when they find out what Lex and Lionel did to her.

I would usually be the first to agree with you. But in this case I disagree. I don't necessarily think Lionel outsmarted her as you say. I think that she is starting to show she is more sly and mischievious than people give her credit for. She doesn't know what Lionel does yet, and she has to play it down, to learn everything. Not to mention the fact that she is keeping her cool around Lex and lying straight to his face, to work up to something later on. Plus with how terrible Lana has been over the whole show, what have they got to lose by making her more proactive and colder towards Lex/Lionel? I would rather see this side of her personality than her playing the helpless victim and whining about Clark's dishonesty.

Like I said, I am usually first in line to hop on the anti-Lana train. But this side of her is definately an improvement in my opinion.

Who

04-26-2007, 11:28 PM

TEN - This one had everything. Phantom, MB, Evil Lex, Friend Lex, Crafty Lana, and action.

Lavenderrose73

04-27-2007, 12:48 AM

I don't see Lana as "going to the dark side." When Lionel said something to her about fully embracing the ways of the Luthors or some garbage like that, I was thinking, "no, Lionel, she's just learned how to play your games!" It's my gues that Lana's just trying to survive this crappy marriage that should never have taken place. For goodness sake, did she really not care about helping Lex until she found out that Clark was there? And what about Chloe "sitting on the holy grail the whole time"? I thought she had just uncovered the "holy grail" when she managed to break into Lex's laptop.

shiny

04-27-2007, 12:55 AM

Who else thinks Lana's character has really improved since finding out Clark's secret? She has stopped whining, is honest with her feelings towards Clark, and moreover has become selfless when it comes to Clark (protecting his secret from Lex). Unfortunately that last part is tragically too late in coming, which really defines her character moreover.

Yes, she wanted Lex to die, and Lionel as well, and that part is not showing her as evolving. But at the start of the show she was someone who had survived the tragedy of her parents' untimely death. Now she is surviving the tragedy of being married to a snake and being in love with a superhero2b. It is really interesting to see the conflict within her - whether she will become like her husband or become like Clark.

And to expand on that a bit, isn't that what Superman is anyway - selfless to the point of tragedy? Anyone who is in the Super-inner-circle seems to be living a selfless and tragic life: Jonathan dying, Martha pining for him but moving on to take care of Clark and the state senate seat, Chloe doing whatever it takes to preserve Clark's secret and helping him at the drop of a hat (at the expense of her own relationship with Jimmy and even brushing aside her feelings for Clark). Heck, I think Lionel is getting less MB'ly ever since being in the know.

Lana may be influenced to join the "good side" now or might pull a Pete and run away after joining the circle. It will be interesting to see how much of that pressure (tragic altruism) she can handle.

Maybe this should be a different thread... Or maybe everyone should wake up and read the next message now... :D

So YEAH this gets a 10 :)

Lavenderrose73

04-27-2007, 01:16 AM

I think Lionel is getting less MB'ly ever since being in the know...

I'm sorry, I'm not clear on "MB'ly". Could you clarify that for me? By the way, did Lana ever learn his secret in the comic books. Is she fixin' to find out in the next few episodes regardless?

shiny

04-27-2007, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by Lavenderrose73
I think Lionel is getting less MB'ly ever since being in the know...

I'm sorry, I'm not clear on "MB'ly". Could you clarify that for me? By the way, did Lana ever learn his secret in the comic books. Is she fixin' to find out in the next few episodes regardless?

I'm probably in the minority in thinking that Lionel is really trying to protect Clark. Thus, IMO he is slowly moving away from his "Magnificient Bastard" persona when it comes to dealing with Clark. Hey may even be latently influenced (possessed?) by Jor-el, much like Lex was by Brainiac in the Justice League Unlimited 'toon...

Not too sure about the Lana Lang comics lore. I'm probably in the minority when it comes to enjoying how SV is treating Lana's character the last 2-3 episodes.

Westix

04-27-2007, 02:57 AM

Nice episode, loved it..... i liked all the discussions, some tthings became clearer. Loved it when Lana was intimidating Lionel :D

But i did miss one thing, when Lana came to Clark in the end, why didn't she say: ''Where are your wounds Clark?'', i wonder what would he say.

Kryptonian-Ronin

04-27-2007, 05:38 AM

I think that, perhaps the writers are trying to create a environment in which Lex and Clark are "neutral" so that when Superman emerges, there is less issues between Clark and Lex and more between Superman and Lex.

cma_454

04-27-2007, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
I think that, perhaps the writers are trying to create a environment in which Lex and Clark are "neutral" so that when Superman emerges, there is less issues between Clark and Lex and more between Superman and Lex.

Maybe even revive (on a limited basis) the Clark / Lex friendship. Superman and Lex = bitter enemies, while Clark and Lex = (sort of) friends?

Kryptonian-Ronin

04-27-2007, 06:31 AM

Lex sees Clark as a reporter, perhaps a pest sometimes, but certainly not an enemy or a friend.

In this version though, they can't deny the history, so they have to make them civil at least, certainly not arch enemys, that is reserved for The Big S.

friday

04-27-2007, 06:33 AM

Best thing about this episode was Lana! I like this darker Lana if her new attitude serves Clark in his fight against evol. Kristin was wonderful in this episode!

The short Clana scene was delicious.

And even though this was hyped as a Clex episode, I didn't like the "kinder, gentler" conversation that took place in the cave. After everything their friendship has gone through, I expected it to be raw, angry, tense and a little more shouting. :lol:

I can't wait for "Noir".

Kal-alien

04-27-2007, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by cma_454
Maybe even revive (on a limited basis) the Clark / Lex friendship. Superman and Lex = bitter enemies, while Clark and Lex = (sort of) friends?

I'm glad someone finally said something like this. Clark and Lex were never Enimies. It was always Lex being Jealous of Superman. Lex Hates not being the most powerful thing on this planet despite having enough money to do just about anything, Money can't buy you Kryptonian lovin' to make a super being.

Over all a very much needed episode. Following the lowly rated Progeny i'm not sure how the ratings will fare, but It was one of the best in the last sevral seasons. They cleaned the air a lot, and set things up to hopefully finish the season on a bang. Only one more filler episode left! but i still think Noir will be a good eppy. Actors usually have fun doing these kinds of episodes, so hopefully that will transfer into the small screen.

Saber

04-27-2007, 06:52 AM

It fell short of my expectations but then again so has most of this season.
What I did enjoy was having a long Clark & Lex scene. I love when those two are together better than when apart.
I wanted them to have a more verbal fight that wasn’t about Lana. So I gave it a 5, it was ok but it could have been better. There was a lot of baggage between those two (Clark & Lex) and a lot more could have been said as oppose to just being about Lana.
It’s kind of sad that it has come down to just being a Lana centered show, I liked it better when it was all about Lex & Clark and how they viewed the world.

Fly by guy

04-27-2007, 06:59 AM

Finally another episode I wanted to rewatch immediately to see what I missed the first time.
I enjoyed the "strong" Lana so much when she and Clark were together outside the tunnel I wanted to knock him out of the way, hug her and ask where the heck this Lana has been hiding.
Excellent. I didn't even care about the rest even though it was good.

Chloe>All

04-27-2007, 07:14 AM

7 out of 10

Clark STILL wants Lana. Ugh. If only he'd seen how she acted at the hospital with Lionel. He would then know that she's just another freakin' Luthor now.

Otherwise, solid episode.

Super Maverick

04-27-2007, 07:24 AM

good episode, b ut no lois makes for an automatic 7

Promise

04-27-2007, 08:13 AM

My favorite scene was the part right after the cave escape, no dialouge, just all acting. WOOOOOOOOW. Talk about powerful. Clana was sooooo strong and then following with the Lexana part, wow, those 3 really brought it.

I loved the episode, glad Chloe was around to keep Clark from going back to his Season 2 thinking ways of "Lex is my friend". Ugh, but that was also a good Superman reference to which Martha spoke on it later, and that was his hope, which is his strength and weakness.

Overall, it was good to get some answers from the Promise episode quetions I had, and I look fwd to seeing Clark looking like CR in Superman 3 with the white tux in next weeks episode, Noir.

Smallville for me cameback since its been back from the Christmas break, with the exception of Combat, yuck......

To me this episode was for the fans that been here since day 1!!!!!!!! enuff said

redeem147

04-27-2007, 08:14 AM

I thought it was a great episode. The characters had much more dimension than usual (Lex still cares about Clark, Lana has a toughness that makes her far more interesting, Lionel might not just be evil, Clark realizes that he has some responsibility for how Lex has turned out). Good stuff!

Promise

04-27-2007, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by bball44j
I think that Lionel meant that Lana was a distraction to Clark's destiny when he said he was trying to protect him. I think that he's protecting him from her.

That's what I was thinking, but the writers could of used something else instead of a force marriage reason. Who knows, the Luthors are crazy brilliant like that.

ginnyfan

04-27-2007, 08:55 AM

I gave it a 10. It was a wonderful episode.

From beginning to end I was delighted. I can't wait for the next episode!

smallvillechic

04-27-2007, 09:25 AM

i loved it!!! it was awsome

SupeK

04-27-2007, 09:31 AM

The show was good but could have been super good if they had focused more on Clark and Lex - their conversation and their predicament - and Clark being injured by K.

The Lana scenes were painful to watch. She drags the show down with her ridiculousness.

Altheablue76

04-27-2007, 09:55 AM

I really liked this episode, and I agree that the newly-dark Lana is intriging, but she's only a product of the evil Luthers. Clark and Chloe agreed they needed to make sure she was safe before "the war" started, but I'm afraid that it'll be too late by then. Her real personality, and genuine sweetness, will be destroyed by then. I think it's gonna be a situation where she's gonna be too far gone by the time she's away from Lex. She needs to just leave him now, and tell Clark everything! GRRR . . .

I also loved the Chloe cell-phone comment, but I just can't see them together. Too brother and sister-like at this point in the storvy. . .
Kudos for no Lois . . . she's really been irritating me lately.

"Lionel might not just be evil, Clark realizes that he has some responsibility for how Lex has turned out"

I think Martha's comment about how evern she doesn't trust Lionel because a person doesn't ever completely change is important . . . as much as I'd like to believe he's only trying to keep Clark safe, I just don't know . . .
Clark has done nothing but continually save Lex's life, many times Lex knew this. Clark's blaming himself is just pathetic. It's moments like these when I'd love to see the red-kryptonite Clark. He needs to stop blaming himself because it just doesn't work. They've been too far gone for a while now, and the relationship can't be taken back into the friendship stage anymore . . .

JamHot

04-27-2007, 10:11 AM

I was unimpressed by this episode.

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RedKRules

04-27-2007, 11:06 AM

Just WONDERFULL!! Got my 10 !!

STFanatic

04-27-2007, 11:07 AM

Hmmm.. that link set off my Phishing alert program.

MidgardDragon

04-27-2007, 11:17 AM

JamHot - learn to spell the main characters name before you post reviews bashing an episode that is sure to be loved by many. It's tacky to read how horrible you thought it was then see you spell his name, "Clarke".

crincron

04-27-2007, 11:59 AM

Cant believe some people on this forum are rating the episode so low...I think that was one of the best episodes this season...ok so like not much action but the dialogue between lex and clark when they were trapped was just amazing.TW MR acted there roles in this episode to absolute perfection...and normally i dont rate KK as a good actor but i have to take the hat off to her in this episode...looks like she has some acting potential after all!!;)

Duncan

04-27-2007, 12:12 PM

Everything was good about this episode; dialogue, acting, lighting, script... except for one thing: the very disturbing lack of canon regarding Clark's reaction to Kryptonite... How can it disable him from even pushing a small stone away from him in one episode, to being able to crawl through a kryponite-littered tunnel in the next...

For that single reason, I'm going from a 10 to an 8.

Blue screen of death

04-27-2007, 12:56 PM

Zoinks Yo!
what an outstanding episode.

Normally i cringe everytime i see lana onscreen as of late, however, lastnight she impressed me. Moving twords playing both sides against the middle. If she keeps going this way she may be the new MB. "mistress bastard" to you ingrates =P
I saw no sign of whiney lana just alot of good assertive, strong lana. Something that has been missing since season 3 imo.

Clark and lex was sweet together. I, almost for a minute, thought Lex was really gonna leave clark behind. I also like how everytime Lex thinks he has "something" on clark (secret related) that clark gets his @ss handed to him in some form and lex is back to "square one" again with doubts and uncertainy.

Lionel was great. There were a few times where i thought lionel was still a vessel for jor-el. In some of the dialog about protecting clark from lex, and "something terrible is about to be unleashed on the world" comments made me wonder if jor-el was "in there" with lionel. They seemed similar to statments Jor-el made about the 2 kryptonians that came out of braniacs ship (their names escape me atm) and braniac. "A great darkness is coming" or some such line back in the premier of season 5 when clark first stepped into the FoS and activated it for the first time.

clois_not_clana

04-27-2007, 01:25 PM

I loved this episode, this is by far the best one this season. I liked the Clex scenes, like when Lex came back to help Clark when Clark thought Lex was abandoning him. I also like "bad Lana", she's much better than the weak, whiney girl we've seen for the past couple of seasons. I rate this ep 9/10!

superman2001

04-27-2007, 02:31 PM

I thought The Episode was Excellent, I really did like The Scene, where Lex comes back to save Clark, I did not Expect to see him come back to help Clark, and I also liked The Scene where Clark and Lex Escape from The Lab, and Clark is Lying on The Ground getting Recharged, that was a great Scene, and I liked The Scene where Lana is talking to Lionel, and he says he is trying to protect Clark, I wonder what Lionel is up to, I can't wait to find out, can't wait to see Next Weeks Episode.

afuchs17

04-27-2007, 03:27 PM

This was yet ANOTHER Smallville episode for the books. It was amazingly written, directed, and had incredible acting all around. Kristen is amazing, and I really wish people would stop ragging on her for no reason because she really does an incredible job-as was very apparent in Nemesis. The scene with her and Clark had me totally into the episode and feeling all the emotion the writers were going for. I wish "Clana" could work out, because those two together are just right. They're the Ross and Rachel of Smallville. Tom Welling, amazing as usual...and I loved that Clark said things that needed to be said to Lex when he wasn't on red K for once. So many memorable one liners, and so much character plot interaction that I've been waiting for. LOVE IT! Best show on TV-SMALLVILLE. 10!

Krypton935

04-27-2007, 04:18 PM

HOLY SH!T!! That was the most amazing episode ever! I loved it had me on the edge of my seat the entire time! As you can probably tell I rate it a ten! I loved everything about it. Dark Lana clex talk everything. It was great! HOLY KRYPTON!!!!

All about Clark

04-27-2007, 05:01 PM

I actually didn't think this eppy was that great, I give generously a 7.

Best part of the episode, believe it or not was LANA.

Didn't like that Clark almost considers Lex a friend. And this ep did not change anything regarding Clex. I didn't like that Lana and Lex learned more, but Chloe and Clark didn't learn much at all.

Dr. Walden

04-27-2007, 07:34 PM

Interesting...

I dont know if its too early to tell, but so far this poll averages a 8.96. Someone did a poll summary earlier where it showed that Justice was the highest of the season with an 8.88.

I personally thought it was the best of the season and so far it seems like this might be the most consistently liked episode.

DARKRAGE

04-27-2007, 07:37 PM

I really enjoyed this episode, it was a great set up for the finale

monel49

04-27-2007, 07:58 PM

Easily one of the best episodes of the series, not simply the season. Things work best in the Smallville universe when the relationship of Clark and Lex is explored and Lana doesn't look and act like a wimp. This ep had very strong characterization and advanced the overall plot line. I've been asking those who have never seen the series to take a look at it. One of them said it was pretty dark. I hadn't thought about that but its true. In the past few seasons and particularly this one, we have a darker, edgier take on the Superrman myth. Fits the times we live in. This ep proves the point. Congrats all the way around.

BeatlesRule

04-27-2007, 08:04 PM

I missed the first 15 minutes, but that didn't hurt the episode at all. I gave it a nine. That was the first time I've liked Lana in years. And what is Lionel really up to?

Gidget

04-27-2007, 08:45 PM

I gave the episode a 10. I loved the character interactions, especially between Lex and Clark. I also enjoyed watching "bad" Lana.

seraphim

04-27-2007, 10:56 PM

Didn't get to vote on this until now.....but anyway, I gave it a 9. Good episode!

superpal1

04-28-2007, 04:38 AM

I gave the episode a nine. That is my highest rating unless Clark flies. This episode was well written. It really showed the depth of Lex's insanity. He has screwed over Lana, has killed to get and keep the information he deems important, is experimenting on innocent people, has lied convincingly to everyone, yet still gets hurt over the lost friendship with Clark. Lana was written well. The best scenes were at the end when both Lex and Lana were hugging, but not really thinking about the other or with any show of love. The other scene was with Clark staring at the Sun. Great.

Imzadia

04-28-2007, 05:12 AM

I LOVED this week's new episode, "Nemesis". It's an unquestionable 10. It was a Powerful episode that moved almost every major character's story arc along by clarifying some plot issues and allowing some much-needed confrontations to happen. I am a 'Clois' fan, but after last night's episode, I was reminded why I was initially drawn to the series in the pilot episode. I LOVED the interaction between Clark & Lana. I agree and admit that they have tremendous chemistry between them. Albeit, their relationship began to deteriorate with all of their break-ups and half-hearted reconciliations which were caused by the lack of honesty in their relationship. As long as Clark couldn't reveal who he truly was to Lana and trust her to keep his secret, they were doomed to fail as a couple. That attitude has been dragged on repeatedly throughout their story on SMALLVILLE.
'Clana' should've been relegated to an intense, first love type of experience for Clark that should've served to help him recognize the Real thing whenever it came along for him as he matured. However, as it's been written and presented to us, 'Clana'
has become annoying to me. I quit cheering for them to be able to make it work. Now, I FEEL SO CONFLICTED! The obvious chemistry between Clark & Lana was so completely evident in "Nemesis", IMHO. They made my heart ache in that scene after Lex & Clark escaped the explosion and Lana greeted them outside. That was some really wonderful acting by Tom & Kristin. I know it's only my opinion, but I 'felt' the emotion, the love, the connection between them when they touched. It was amazing, and some of those who direct them say they need little to no prep time or direction to portray a scene like that. Nevertheless, I think that their time has passed. As for Lana, I've never disliked her. I've admired her independence and tenacity. She's a survivor who's been seeking to find her place in the world just like all of her contemporaries. She is a strong young woman who didn't want to be viewed as a damsel in distress and learned some self-defense methods, at Lex's suggestion, to enable her to become less vulnerable. Lana witnessed the demise of her parents in a terrible accident. Her relationship with her Aunt Nell wasn't revealed much, but she never seemed to be too attached. So, I see her as alone, mostly, and needing to be included or attached to others. She has endured some crazy, and really weird and unfortunate experiences in her young life with very little family support. She faces her world without fear, yet she's never been too proud to ask for help when she felt that she needed it. She's a beautiful, yet tragic individual whose curiosity about the weirdness that's surrounded her all of her life has all but alienated her from those she cares about and would like to have been taken into their confidence. It would have given her a feeling of belonging and some understanding that may have helped explain the circumstances that shaped her life. Up until now, Clark has chosen to exclude her from that which could reinforce the intimacy of any relationship between them. She turned to Lex who recognized that she needed to belong by being trusted by someone. Lex made sure that he was the one person who would be willing to give her that...to some degree to accomplish his goal of luring Lana with that bait and capturing her with half-truths. It seems that now, Lana, enlightened about Lex's deceptions, plans to use what she has learned from him and turn it against him. I so want her to survive this betrayal and submerge strong and confident in herself...with no bitterness. She was, after all, so young when her relationship with Lex initially began. I've always felt that he had intentions of manipulating her and was 'grooming' her for himself when she became old enough. It was subtle and I think she was too young to see it then. It was a strategy Lex put into motion. Their 'business' arrangement was also a tool that Lex used to achieve his goals concerning Lana. So, I am now fully cheering for Lana and her eventual triumph over the Luthors.
I don't know what the writers have planned for her, or the Clark/Lana/Lex triangle, but I dearly hope they don't continue to digress into that Yo-Yo situation with 'Clana' again.
I agree with Clark when he realized that it may be possible that his attitude toward Lex (and Jonathan Kent's, too) that may have been what helped Lex to sink deeper into his dark personality. Acceptance is something that we all crave, and for someone like Lex who never received it from the person he wanted it from the most, Lionel, he became depraved without it from those he desired to be his surrogate family, the Kents. Lex is a tormented soul as well. Altogether, 'Lexana' is a Tragedy.
This drama has become somewhat of a psychological brain-tease. Considering that, you should all just give me "The Fickle Finger of Fate Award", and if you're too young to remember what that is, which you probably are, then "Bygones?"..."Nevermind"! :( :p

Videogamer49107

04-28-2007, 08:42 AM

The episode had some sweet stuff in it, but there were definitely some problems that I had with it. Time distortion was one of them. It's an hour long show, but it's only supposed to be chronicling what happened in 14 minutes? And somehow in these 14 minutes Chloe is able to investigate Clark in the tunnels and kryptonite, she's able to run to the Luthor mansion, she's able to talk to Lana, Her and Lana are able to gather a crack team or what not AFTER the search has been called off, and they're able to show up right as the bombs go off?

The episode had some really sweet stuff in it and I'm all for a good plot and I'm all for setting logic aside most times but when you set a time limit, when you set a logical point in your show...and then completely dismiss it? It irritated the heck out of me. Other than that, really great. I give it an 8/10.

escout

04-28-2007, 10:07 PM

it was so much better than the TRIPE they have given us all season!

GooN

04-29-2007, 04:59 AM

i think that this was a decent filler episode. As ive said before i prefer this sort of episode which is more character building as opposed to the meteor freak bollocks which is just a waste of time.

I was waiting for an episode like this, where Clark and Lex would be "stuck" together and have to air out all their crapola....just wish Clark said when Lex said he turned his back on him, that what kind of "friend" goes for the one girl he knows his supposed best mate was in love with. Woulda *****-slapped the baldy myself...

But anyways, good episode, 7.5 in my book.....interesting that phantom bit where lana saw it. Hopefully it'll be a good end to the season.

P.S didn't see any war declared here. maybe by lana :D

monstra

04-29-2007, 10:25 AM

I give it a 10.

Lana.. Kristin's acting.. the Clex confrontations.. the Clana hug.. *sigh*

Amazing episode.

JonboyKalel

04-29-2007, 06:46 PM

this episode was pretty good
i want it to get back to more relationships part of the show
and i wanna see CK catch some phantoms

christian_kryptonian

04-29-2007, 09:58 PM

Very good episode. VERY good.

Lavenderrose73

04-29-2007, 10:42 PM

I get paranoid when Lex sees Lana too close to Clark. Makes me wonder what the next dinner conversation will look like. :\

ladylore

04-30-2007, 07:40 AM

Loved it, gave it a 10. Thought if I had thought about it some more, I would have dropped it to a 9 due to Clark's extra goody-goody-hopeful attitude at the end...blaming himself for how Lex turned out. Whatever. But Lana's acting, the interaction between Lex and Clark and Lana and Lionel, the dialog and the eeeeeeeevilness of Lex contrasting with his saving Clark....fabulous. Just fabulous.

Lana used to annoy the hell out of me, but I absolutely LOVE her when she is being evilly manipulative. And even when I hate her - the tension between her and Clark is always hot.

Sweetie

04-30-2007, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by redkrypclark
it was a phantom attacking people

Scary creature isn't it:D :eek:

I'm sure Clark will have to fight it next season :cool:

Awesome episode.I gave it a 9.Over all,it was great.Lex & Clark helping each other was kind sarcastic when we know what is going to happen to them in the future but,it was so wonderfull to see them working together like old time.Lionel threathed by the new Mrs.Luthor.Dark Lana is more plausible than the saccharine one but,I hope she knows what she's getting herself into this time.She's playing at a very game dangerous once again.Vengeance is such destructive and unheathly feeling.

LoisL

04-30-2007, 11:05 AM

I gave it a 9. It was really a great episode: focusing on the interactions btwn characters and setting up the next few w/ the prototype preview.

I love seeing the Clex friendship revisited in such a brief, bittersweet way. :) It was glaringly absent in "Promise" although Clexana in general I do take as part of the grander scheme of Clex.

I have enjoyed dark Lana thruout most of this season and this ep was full of her machinations. It came off stronger than I was expecting but it really makes me wonder now if Lana might be the child Lionel always wanted! She has taken less time to become a formidable Luthor than he probably ever expected from her good ole pink sweaters. :) I am convinced though; Lana always had a desperate dark survival instinct which she used to ignore.

Only reason why I didn't give it a 10 was because I didn't care about Wes' wife; it didn't exactly harm the ep but there have been many 10point episodes in Smallville where I drank up every word from cool side characters. I also didn't like the Clana hug. I'm actually a semi-Clana-er in the sense that I can look forward to their scenes with interest and I liked the hug in the preview but in the episode it came off as ...more sensual than I was expecting from SuperClark and a woman married to the man he had just glimpsed friendship with.

I know Clana has history, context, etc but that hug felt weird to me. Loved Lana's gaze at the crack in his invulnerability and the sun-soaking.

Originally posted by Lavenderrose73
I get paranoid when Lex sees Lana too close to Clark. Makes me wonder what the next dinner conversation will look like. :\

OOO! Me too!
Esp. since Clark let the cat out of the bag with his wedding day accusations. Lana is living on the edge right now.

clois_lover10

05-01-2007, 05:00 PM

Nemesis was a great episode- made me miss the Clex of the past.

Lavenderrose73

05-02-2007, 12:33 AM

Oh, I heard that! That's why I like to catch some earlier episodes, just so I can see Clark and Lex getting along like 2 brothers.

cma_454

05-02-2007, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by Lavenderrose73
Oh, I heard that! That's why I like to catch some earlier episodes, just so I can see Clark and Lex getting along like 2 brothers.

They still get along like two brothers...

Cain and Abel. :lol:

Lavenderrose73

05-03-2007, 11:32 AM

Yeah, good point. :rotfl: Wonder who's who. ;)

AG1211

05-03-2007, 08:18 PM

My favorite eppy so far this season!

Wonderful!

InLove_with_Chloe

05-05-2007, 12:57 PM

I gave it a '5'.
It was OK, not great.
Again, there could have been great scenes in that one, instead tptb refused to show true development.
So now Clark blames himself for Lex's turn to the dark side?!?
:\
The only good thing was Dark Lana. But she was left clueless in the end, as usual....

Lavenderrose73

05-05-2007, 01:32 PM

I'm not sure Lana's really dark, I think she just feels trapped and so desperate that she'd do anything to get out from the Luthors' thumbs. She probably realizes how dark Lex is and just wants to leave the life she's stuck in...but that's just me.

kryptonut

05-05-2007, 03:07 PM

I liked "First contact" a little better : (~)

Jlvsclrk

05-10-2007, 11:01 AM

Interesting. The Kryptonsite fan ranking for Nemesis is the highest of the season, even better than Justice. Clex interaction - that's what the fan's want! Plus Lana's walk on the wild side, almost making Lexana worth it!

Here's how the fan rankings work out so far:
Episode, Rank Average
Zod, not a numeric poll. assume moderately high
Sneeze, not a numeric poll. assume moderate
Wither, 17, 5.64
Arrow, 5, 8.35
Reunion, 10, 7.54
Fallout, 7, 8.07
Rage, 11, 7.50
Static, not a numeric poll. assume VERY low
Subterranean, 16, 6.18
Hydro, 6, 8.27
Justice, 2, 8.88
Labyrinth, 8, 7.84
Crimson, 4, 8.59
Trespass, 15, 6.42
Freak, 3, 8.77
Promise, 13, 6.79
Combat, 12, 7.37
Progeny, 9, 7.74
Nemesis, 1, 8.97
Noir, 14, 6.51

kryptonaidxh

05-16-2007, 11:10 AM

:) I liked the Lex-Clark dinamic,, and also that we could see the good side of Lex helping Clark. and later what Clark told Martha about he saw in the cave something he had lost or missed: his old friend (Lex), and that´s what I liked the most, even when Lex isn´t going to change his evil side never. And what I hated:
Lana evil again..:mad: :rolleyes: , I disliked her in "hydro" when she showed a weacked side in her scene with Dr. Groll, but in this episode I was really surprised that she could be so evil !, she was willing to kill Lionel to forced him to tell her everything!, I couldn´t believe that!, she was to murdered cuting his tube oxigen, an honest and good person doesn´t do that.
That´s why most of people dislike Lana, at least Lex and Lionel don´t pretend denying their bad side under a kindness face and they don´t act like victims when they´re not, and Lana always acts like the victim blaming everyone because of her faults instead of taking the responsability of her own mistakes and upseting when people don´t do what she wants, she demands completely honesty from others but she lies everybody and she´s not honest at all, definetely Lana is a wolf in a sheep´s clothes:p :)