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HnK
04-20-2007, 04:58 AM
It was a great episode, very intense, liked it alot. However, I'm getting kinda annoyed about the constant disregard of very BASIC nature laws. For example, lex is flesh and blood and when clark pushed him he survives? Wtf is that all about? This is probably the most obvious error in SV history. I mean comeon, his hands must've moved at like a gazillion miles per hours and that would have made his hands go straight through lex. The very least, he would NEVER have survived the hit against the wall.

It's simple:

Bullet moves at X mpa = Lex dead if hit

Clark hands (bigger and heavier than the bullet) moves at about 100 times the bullet speed and lex survives? Come on.

vouge09
04-20-2007, 05:01 AM
or how about how lana finally realizes shes not pregant after being 6 months pregant and not showing at all. ok am I the only one who was like in febuary , she is 5 months pregant so wheres the belly? Nice job CW pepole . I mean come on! Your 5 months pregant and still the same size you were when you got pregant , tell me you wouldnt go get another doctors opinion.

Kryptonian-Ronin
04-20-2007, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by vouge09
or how about how lana finally realizes shes not pregant after being 6 months pregant and not showing at all. ok am I the only one who was like in febuary , she is 5 months pregant so wheres the belly? Nice job CW pepole . I mean come on! Your 5 months pregant and still the same size you were when you got pregant , tell me you wouldnt go get another doctors opinion.

:rotfl:

faz
04-24-2007, 08:02 PM
Well we all know SV has never exactly prided themselves on accurate portrayals of the events that go on in the episode. While the flaw that is Clark's non-lethal superspeed push could at least be overlooked, the simulated pregnancy is a fairly large plot hole that could have been easily fixed by slightly compressing the baby arc. Not to mention sometimes TPTB totally disregard common sense and a basic Google search when writing episodes like Recruit where the coach was for all intents and purposes bribing Clark to go to Met U. No coach in the NCAA would be stupid enough to try something like that, considering the NCAA would suspend the team quicker than Clark's superspeed if they found out. Add to that that no coach in their right mind would greet a single recruit with the entire team, the cheerleading squad, the band, and about 20 alumni. Or how about Clark needing Chloe to help him translate Lion-El's Kryptonian scribblings in Oracle? Or Igazu Falls being located in Patagonia in Zod? I'm sure if we really wanted to look into it, we could find fairly large mistakes in a majority of the episodes. Its amazing how the writers can script an episode without the doing slightest bit of background research and no one bothers to check if it would feasibly happen or not.

Either way, I still love the show, and fortunately I can normally overlook some of the gaping plot holes unless they are painfully obvious. I've learned to accept the minor flaws as part of the show and only on rare occasion do they actually bother me. At least SVs continuity has improved over the course of the series, which has drastically decreased the amount of dumb errors and plot holes that we used to see. Its not perfect by any means, but its a lot better than it was.

GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
04-25-2007, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
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SupeK
04-25-2007, 10:59 AM
Clark can use as much or as little force as he wants. He probally dialed it down so pushing Lex was about the same as me pushing Lex.

No offence, but if you want to argue laws of physics, Superman may not be the guy do do it with.

msleggie
04-25-2007, 12:32 PM
lol :D

Iowa_Gent
04-25-2007, 02:00 PM
We got to remember this is science fiction and they are going to do things that are impossible in the real world. It was in Vessel I think that Lex pushed Lionel hard enough when he was given super strength that Lionel smashed the front windshield of a car when he hit. That would have killed anyone in the real world to hit a windshield that hard. So we can't use the real world physics when watching s science fiction show.

faz
04-25-2007, 08:04 PM
Excellent point. While there is a "scientific" explanation for superman's powers, the fact remains that this is all made up and could not physically happen, at least as far as i know.

98chase
04-25-2007, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by HnK
It was a great episode, very intense, liked it alot. However, I'm getting kinda annoyed about the constant disregard of very BASIC nature laws. For example, lex is flesh and blood and when clark pushed him he survives? Wtf is that all about? This is probably the most obvious error in SV history. I mean comeon, his hands must've moved at like a gazillion miles per hours and that would have made his hands go straight through lex. The very least, he would NEVER have survived the hit against the wall.

It's simple:

Bullet moves at X mpa = Lex dead if hit

Clark hands (bigger and heavier than the bullet) moves at about 100 times the bullet speed and lex survives? Come on.
1) It wasn't a bullet.
2) It wasn't moving at the speed of a bullet.
3) The projectile is moving at X mph. Lex does not need to be shoved at the same speed to avoid the projectile. He only needs to be moved enough for the projectile to miss his head, about 4 inches.

I'm not saying that Clark didn't push him hard, because he did. Heck, I'm not even saying that what Clark did shouldn't have killed Lex. I am, however, saying that there is no point in scientifically, more specifically using physics, to explain the happenings on a tv show about an alien from another planet with super powers. The show is supposed to be fun and IMO, when you begin to over analyze a tv show, you ruin it's "funness." Also, if there is a problem with this event, then there is a problem with Clark superspeeding with Chloe, catching Chloe when she fell off of a bridge, catching Lana when fell from the roof, knocking a guy into the sheriffs car that was 15 feet away and the guy being unscathed, super jumping with Lana, super jumping with Lois, and every time Clark opens a door in superspeed mode. There is no wooden and/or glass door that can withstand the stress and shear forces that would occur when being opened at 700+ MPH.

LeeHounshell
04-25-2007, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by 98chase
every time Clark opens a door in superspeed mode. There is no wooden and/or glass door that can withstand the stress and shear forces that would occur when being opened at 700+ MPH. [/B]

at around 761 MPH, there would be a sonic-boom.
clark often outruns bullets.
an average handgun's "bullet speed" might be between 650-700 MPH.

faz
04-25-2007, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by 98chase
I am, however, saying that there is no point in scientifically, more specifically using physics, to explain the happenings on a tv show about an alien from another planet with super powers. The show is supposed to be fun and IMO, when you begin to over analyze a tv show, you ruin it's "funness."

Agreed. I feel like my last post came off the wrong way, I meant to emphasize the science fiction aspect but didn't do it very successfully (I've had a little too much to drink tonight). Anyway, the show is entirely fictional so the fact that they take a few liberties with the laws of physics can be overlooked. The nature of Superman defies the laws of physics anyway, so ultimately I don't think it really matters if they extend that a little more.