View Full Version : What did you like best about "Progeny"?
Nospam
04-19-2007, 07:26 PM
I loved that Lana unplugged the Clark whine machine.
poetryfoot
04-19-2007, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
I loved that Lana unplugged the Clark whine machine.
i loved that too, but I have to say that I loved the CHLEX interaction in the DP! When he was all evil in the shadows it gave me chills...I was gonna be disappointed if the only interaction they had was in the facility...
I had to go with Clark used his brain all episode. Again! - I was impressed. lol.....Although I did love all the Chloe.
jimmyolsenblues
04-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Erica Durance's commerical for christopherreeve.org, that always breaks me up.
The other commerical was recently on WB family.
Always broke my heart to think of my first superman paralyzed.
Deana
04-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
I loved that Lana unplugged the Clark whine machine. I voted for that too. Thank you Lana!
SalvadorianGirl
04-19-2007, 07:38 PM
The Chlark and Chlex scenes were to die for. Best parts of the episode.
savingpeoplething
04-19-2007, 07:39 PM
I voted for this:
The trust and friendship between Clark and Chloe.
But, an all of the above option would have been preferrable because it was an overall ROCKIN' episode!
Lostfan588
04-19-2007, 07:39 PM
Yeah the CHLEX!!!
And then Chlark!!!!
And then Lana telling Clark to let her take car of herself and she'll make it through like she always does.
Nospam
04-19-2007, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Deana
I voted for that too. Thank you Lana!
(Love the avatar, Deana.)
No doubt. I could dig a Clark and Lana romance if Lana acted like that all the time.
Just saying...
Deana
04-19-2007, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
No doubt. I could dig a Clark and Lana romance if Lana acted like that all the time.
Love the avatar, Deana.
Just saying... Thank you!
If only everyone would shut Clark up when he started his whine sessions.
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Erica Durance's commerical for christopherreeve.org, that always breaks me up.
The other commerical was recently on WB family.
Always broke my heart to think of my first superman paralyzed.
It's a very emotional commerical. Makes me sad when I see it but happy also because it reminds me of Reeve.
quietone
04-19-2007, 07:56 PM
I voted for Clark using his brain. Always good to see him thinking.
Although, the Chlex interaction was smoking.
I'm sorry but I thought Lana's 'I've lost so much' and 'I'll get through it like I always do' lines were over the top and unnecessary. It came across as another 'poor Lana's a victim again' scene.
I don't know. I have no sympathy for this character. Maybe if Lana had said something like 'Thank you for your concern Clark; I will be OK.' it would have gone over better.
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:04 PM
I loved that Lana unplugged the Clark whine machine
:rolleyes:
I don't know. I have no sympathy for this character. Maybe if Lana had said something like 'Thank you for your concern Clark; I will be OK.' it would have gone over better
And act like she was happy to have lost a baby and the man she loved? It isn't like her little dog was put to sleep.
xrayvision
04-19-2007, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
I loved that Lana unplugged the Clark whine machine.
I laughed at what she said (getting through it as she usually does---Clark saving her and causing a worldwide disaster by ignoring other, bigger threats).
Lex was an incredible weakling for getting KO'd and being so sloppy with truth about the baby, not locking up Chloe's mom as so she couldn't touch anyone as Lionel did to him in Asylum, and not having a weapon on him to stop Chloe when she shot the tear gas grenade at him. Yet he was very evil at times. It was like 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
As I said many times before, making Chloe be more than she's supposed to be (like a superhero who KO's the future enemy of Superman and someone who Clark had to rely heavily on to make the save) takes away from the real focus of this show, Clark & Lex. And since that's been happening, the show's quality has gone drastically down.
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:15 PM
But we need more Chloe, she's the greatness, this show should really be about Chloe.....:rolleyes:
Deana
04-19-2007, 08:18 PM
It should be an option about Mama Kent coming home to save her Baby Hewie.
CallMeClark
04-19-2007, 08:20 PM
I liked the Chloe VS Lex of the episode. Truely amazing. I love Chlex intereactions as well as Chlionel.
xrayvision
04-19-2007, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
But we need more Chloe, she's the greatness, this show should really be about Chloe.....:rolleyes:
Yeah, that's all we need. Let's forget about the guy who's supposed to become Superman, Lex, Jor-El, and Lionel.
Let me say this, if this show does miraculously make an 8th season, I think it will be much better without Lana & Chloe as long as they can get a great villian to replace Lex (maybe let Lionel live or make him become Lex). Then we could finally have Clark alone with his hero deeds and Lois (as long as the shipping is severely toned down). This show has lost so much focus that it's disappointing at times. I really miss the Clark-Lex scenes and stories. I'm tired of Smallville, guest starring Tom Welling as Clark Kent.
CallMeClark
04-19-2007, 08:22 PM
Not EVERY episode has to be about Clark. People tune in to see a cast of characters.
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:23 PM
You don't think we need more Chloe? Really?:eek: Darn, my hopes and dreams dashed of more Chloe;) Yes, I agree, that we need more Clark. But he does need a female love interest, otherwise the show turns off females and some guys........So I believe Lana or Lois needs to be there. Actually both of them.
Nospam
04-19-2007, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
And act like she was happy to have lost a baby and the man she loved? It isn't like her little dog was put to sleep.
It's Lana. My first guess would be that she's having a puppy. :p
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
But we need more Chloe, she's the greatness, this show should really be about Chloe.....:rolleyes:
Let me guess: Clana/Lana fan? :rolleyes:
CrazyforKal
04-19-2007, 08:31 PM
I love Clark and Chloe's friendship. Their dynamic just gets better each episode.
seraphim
04-19-2007, 08:31 PM
Lana learning about the pregnancy.
Deana
04-19-2007, 08:32 PM
We need more episodes about Clark. I mean Promise established him as King of the Fairies.
He has to get his street cred back. Farm cred...what ever.
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Let me guess: Clana/Lana fan?
*Remembers the thread the person quoted above made that takes a shot at Lana*
Let me guess: Lana hater? :rolleyes: So do I win anything?
It's Lana. My first guess would be that she's having a puppy
Yeah, to be friends with Chloe's future meteor freak puppy, then those two and Shelby are going to make a family........:eek:
xrayvision
04-19-2007, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
You don't think we need more Chloe? Really?:eek: Darn, my hopes and dreams dashed of more Chloe;) Yes, I agree, that we need more Clark. But he does need a female love interest, otherwise the show turns off females and some guys........So I believe Lana or Lois needs to be there. Actually both of them.
Well, I think they should have kept Ollie with Lois to keep females interested in love scenes interested. Clark has barely been in this season compared to others, and I want to see him dealing with zoners and other stuff that justifies him putting off his training. They had a lot of time to hook Clark up with Chloe (which should have happened in season 4-5).
I wish they would bring Chloe's role as it was in seasons 1-3. I liked her increased role in 3, yet how they kept her interesting and very humble. Chloe shouldn't be all cocky with Lex when she knows what Lionel was capable of (like father like son). And she should know about the cave prophecy saying that Sageeth (who Clark knows is Lex now) is going to be Clark's (Naman's) enemy and how those 2 will be the balance of good & evil. She should know from the prophecy that bringing down Lex won't work since he is destined to be Clark's lifelong enemy. She should instead try to help him keep him in place by working with Jimmy and passing off info to Clark.
If I were TPTB, I would make Chloe a tragic character by having her give up her love for journalism to protect herself & her friends and help someone like Lois to replace her while she can try to find a role in helping to fight crime.
meggy
04-19-2007, 08:39 PM
what did i like about Progeny? i taped it so i'm still watching..but was I the only one who laughed out loud at Moira's crazy-hair mug shot???:lol:
xrayvision
04-19-2007, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Deana
We need more episodes about Clark. I mean Promise established him as King of the Fairies.
He has to get his street cred back. Farm cred...what ever.
If they would have followed up Combat with something similar, it would have started something.
lillie_poo_pod
04-19-2007, 08:41 PM
As much as I loved the Chlark in this episode, I loved the Chlex even more. 3 SCENES!!!!!! 3!!!!! Loved loved loved the Chlex.
dimeo782002
04-19-2007, 08:42 PM
it was a very good episode. im very pleased with lana as well she seems a little stronger emotionally and i like how she tells clark she can handle things on her own and clark seemed to take it well. i also am proud of chloe and clarks friendship they really look out for eachother and he never questioned why she put kryptonite on him. he already understood she would never do that if she had control of herself. allison mack is a good actress i like how she shows her emotions. it was great to see lynda carter after all these years she still is lovely. lex was a force to be reckoned with he is the evil we have been waiting for!!!!!!!!!!! finally the answer to the lana baby ( caina you were right there was no baby ) now we know there was no baby and im ready to see the wraith of lana!!! this is a time i am on her side she must put lex in his place that is a very low thing to do!!! now lana knows she was tricked into this life!! now who was the baby in the sonogram photo SPOILER// ( BIZARRO BABY ???? ) good episode, nice to see martha on the motherly side rubbing clarks head saying oh my baby !! can't wait till the next episode!!
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:43 PM
Well, I think they should have kept Ollie with Lois to keep females interested in love scenes interested. Clark has barely been in this season compared to others, and I want to see him dealing with zoners and other stuff that justifies him putting off his training. They had a lot of time to hook Clark up with Chloe (which should have happened in season 4-5).
Chlark IMO should have happened in season one or two, but that's dead now anyways. But I think it adds to the dynamic having Clark fighting with his destiny and being in love with the girl(Lana). I mean, I understand all the things you're saying, but honestly, if it was ALL about Clark and his destiny, it might boring to some people who aren't hardcore Superman people.
Originally posted by xrayvision
Yeah, that's all we need. Let's forget about the guy who's supposed to become Superman, Lex, Jor-El, and Lionel.
Then we could finally have Clark alone with his hero deeds and Lois (as long as the shipping is severely toned down). I really miss the Clark-Lex scenes and stories. I'm tired of Smallville, guest starring Tom Welling as Clark Kent.
I do like the sub stories about other characters but I have to agree that I also tire of the 'Smallville guest starring Tom Welling' - I love Chloe and am glad they focused on her but at the same time the show is about Clark and I would like to see more Clark/Lex dialogue/interactions and more Lois. I guess I'm looking forward to the future of the show - although the past and present are good to me as well.
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:44 PM
I wish they would bring Chloe's role as it was in seasons 1-3. I liked her increased role in 3, yet how they kept her interesting and very humble. Chloe shouldn't be all cocky with Lex when she knows what Lionel was capable of (like father like son). And she should know about the cave prophecy saying that Sageeth (who Clark knows is Lex now) is going to be Clark's (Naman's) enemy and how those 2 will be the balance of good & evil. She should know from the prophecy that bringing down Lex won't work since he is destined to be Clark's lifelong enemy. She should instead try to help him keep him in place by working with Jimmy and passing off info to Clark.
I agree with that too, but someone has to stand up to Lex. It seems like Lex always makes Clark look a wimp during their encounters.
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I agree with that too, but someone has to stand up to Lex. It seems like Lex always makes Clark look a wimp during their encounters.
Well - based on how Clark acted this episode - I think that they're bringing the focus back to Clark. I'm hoping they focus on Clark and the JL. To me - this episode showed that Clark can get things done and he didn't need people, they needed him. Hopefully they can build off of that for future episodes - where they need each other but that Clark is a capable alien that can handle himself........
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:54 PM
Well, you always need Clark. Without Clark Chloe can't do much. Chloe is like the coach to Clark's player.
xrayvision
04-19-2007, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
As much as I loved the Chlark in this episode, I loved the Chlex even more. 3 SCENES!!!!!! 3!!!!! Loved loved loved the Chlex.
I only liked the last Chloe-Lex scene, but didn't think she should have been cocky. I like the humble way Chloe dealt with Lionel in season 3. I would like to see more of that in her war with Lex. She knows that he can have her mother killed. She also knows that he has Lana. He can do more damage now than she can to him. She's smarter than that (showing her enemy her hand).
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Well, you always need Clark. Without Clark Chloe can't do much. Chloe is like the coach to Clark's player.
She shouldn't be coach. She should be like a teammate to the star player (Clark). This is what she was in seasons 1-4. His coach should have been Jonathan (they should have never killed him). I would say Jor-El now, but I think they should stick to how Jor-El is cold & believes in the ends justify the means (which Clark doesn't and seperates him from his biological father). That way when he becomes Superman, it's for his own reasons, not because it's what Jor-El wants him to become. And then Jor-El should learn to accept him as he is. That way, all the defying he has done would have meant something.
Ilovebeinglost
04-19-2007, 09:06 PM
The part I loved best was the end of the episode and ED speaking on MS and the Christopher and Dana Reeve foundation.
That always brings a lump to my throut. I have my superman tags I hope you all do too.
http://www.christopherreeve.org/site/c.geIMLPOpGjF/b.899265/k.CC03/Home.htm
Originally posted by xrayvision
She shouldn't be coach. She should be like a teammate to the star player (Clark). And then Jor-El should learn to accept him as he is. That way, all the defying he has done would have meant something.
Right on. I agree. Chloe should be a teammate and Clark is the star player. Of course - that being said - sometimes the star does have to assist a teammate - but the main focus should be the star. Jor-El and Kal-El need to have a family intervention - Kal need to get in gear and at least attempt to start training again.
meggy
04-19-2007, 09:38 PM
this episode was ok....mother-daughter moments kinda sad...i liked:
baby!journalist!Chloe
Chlark team
Moira's mind control commands were a little corny "free us"!:lol:
didnt think Chloe was cocky with Lex in the end: she feels like she has nothing more to loose, and she is being season5!Chloe who barged in on Lex and threatened him....i liked that....she wants to get the truth out, but now has to consider what Lex would do to her friends and family...
the only thing though..i thought the epi was chopped up a bit....
but it was an important epi and a turning point for a few characters:
Lana: new news for her...
lex: darker by the minute...no qualms about killing Chloe
Chloe: it shows that she is STILL writing stories! thank you! for those who were wondering!...but obviously she now has some restraints
Clark: the gloves are off! hopefully things wont revert in Nemesis....and it seems like Clark and Chloe have made a non-verbalized agreement to go after Lex once they make sure Lana etc is safe. As soon as I heard that conversation I thought "What if Clark, Chloe and Lana plan to fake her death?" now THAT would be a twist....but i doubt it would be that good
WHERE THE HECK WAS SHELBY?????:p
edit: yeah, i miss Christopher Reeve so much...:(
BadToad
04-19-2007, 09:38 PM
My favorite thing about the episode was Clark. He was awesome.
SteveS
04-19-2007, 09:59 PM
Seemed like an excellent episode with several references to Chloe as the/a reporter. There wasn't anything crass, crude, or any cheap T&A thrown into the episode and whatever-her-name is wasn't even missed or mentioned. I loved that.
meggy
04-19-2007, 10:10 PM
what i am worried about is that info that Lex has on Chloe...when Moira controlled Chloe to get the drive she didnt think about the repercussions huh
so jail or death for Chloe by the hands of Lex...this better be continued next season. Lex has some control over Chloe now, but she needs to find a way to level the playing field....next season mabye? *crosses fingers*
rudyrusso
04-19-2007, 10:26 PM
everyone knew this was all bologna. never pregnant? duhhhhh. clana is back on and deeper than ever. this will all wrap up the right way. let's be honest, this show didn't do anything well aside from clana, at least as far as mainstream popularity that could justify 7 seasons goes.
My favorite part was the opening scence where Lex gets run off the road, has his window smashed in, and gets knocked out and sensitive material stolen.... by Chloe.
Spirit Detective
04-19-2007, 11:02 PM
Clark hesitated to save Lex.
elway
04-19-2007, 11:16 PM
I haven't had time to read all the posts, but I thought this was a horrible ep especially coming off a break. Just bad writting and the acting (sorry to say) was laughable. Chloe's mom came off like Obi won kanobi(sp) "run Luke run"
What I liked best was the trailer for next weeks ep.
All about Clark
04-19-2007, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Spirit Detective
Clark hesitated to save Lex.
Yes, he did it to save Chloe, not Lex.
For me, it was the Chlark and the Chlex secondary.
darkkrypton81
04-19-2007, 11:41 PM
The parts when Clark was acting the hero and Lex acting evil. I personally liked the remembrance to Dana Reeve by Erica Durance. It's quite fitting really.
MsSullivan
04-19-2007, 11:43 PM
All things Chloe and or Allison.
and lynda carter
vikingjedi
04-20-2007, 02:01 AM
Clark and Chloe working together. They're an awesome team. Can't wait to see Lana turn good again too, get her away from Lex ASAP
maryjanewatson
04-20-2007, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
You don't think we need more Chloe? Really?:eek: Darn, my hopes and dreams dashed of more Chloe;) Yes, I agree, that we need more Clark. But he does need a female love interest, otherwise the show turns off females and some guys........So I believe Lana or Lois needs to be there. Actually both of them.
uh, excuse me?! not all females need love stories and plots in order to enjoy a show. I, for example, enjoy the show much more when their is no love drama going on. I would much rather see clark super-kicking someones butt than watch yet another whiney clana or lexana scene.
velocity
04-20-2007, 03:49 AM
1. That where was a "previously on smallville". Seriously they should always have that in the beginning, so you don't feel like you've missed an episode or two.
2. Clark's last line the war is about to begin
3. Lana finally finding out the truth about her baby, or lack of baby.
4. Lex being a disgusting pig.
5. It was nice that Chloe got to see her mom again, altough i think we could've gotten much more than what was served.
svfan50
04-20-2007, 05:37 AM
I think I have posted earlier on this thread yesterday only...but I would post again..!!
I loved the episode...!!! All parts of it..!! Everything.....
Although...I didnt like Chloe mentioning to Clark that her mom wont be able to see Jimmy...I dont know but I kinda not liked it very much...but the whole episode was marvellous..!!!!
I love Chlark...and the fact that Clark actually was protective for Chloe when she told him that Lex had come over to Planet and tlaked to her....And the first scene of Chlark in the episode..!!!
O...goshh..they should make more episodes like this..!!
InLove_with_Chloe
04-20-2007, 05:47 AM
No Jimmy. I really liked that.
friday
04-20-2007, 06:19 AM
Lana learning she was never pregnant.
Finding out about Chloe and Moira's backstory was interesting since it sets up Chloe's upcoming freak status.
No poor woobie Lex. Now this is the Lex I want to see.
meggy
04-20-2007, 06:51 AM
i liked: Lex at the Daily Planet!...
that should have been something iconic for us to rave about shouldn't it???
when has Lex ever been in the DP?? I have been waiting for that for a long time....
Lex=evil villian entering the epitome of truth and justice-the DP, trying to exercise his power there. But for me, the DP is one place that Lex should not be able to control.
fuhget him Chloe! print that story!
Originally posted by Who
My favorite part was the opening scence where Lex gets run off the road, has his window smashed in, and gets knocked out and sensitive material stolen.... by Chloe.
^^^hahhahahahahaha.......I was waiting for a Jorel soap avi to pop up somewhere lmao......hahahaha
Originally posted by meggy
i liked: Lex at the Daily Planet!...
that should have been something iconic for us to rave about shouldn't it???
when has Lex ever been in the DP?? I have been waiting for that for a long time....
I liked that Lex kinda strolled in there and made a casual threat - I think it was just to see what Chloe would do - he could snag her at any time. I think he's baiting Chloe and Clark and he doesn't know it yet - but the JL as well. I just wonder if he's biting off more than he can chew (I sure hope so) :D
margroks
04-20-2007, 08:09 AM
Lana will never unplug the whine machine. She'll play the poor and totally retconned martyr me card, despite the fact that she made the bed she is now forced to lie in. I however couldn't care less what happens to her unless it is Lana getting called on her underhanded behavior and exposed for the self-centered, unpleasant girl she really is.
But loved Lynda Carter and Chloe and the pic of young Chloe, reporter even then, was so cute!
Clark was good and loved the "He's (Lex) is in MY sights now," line. Don't mess with Clark's Chloe.
Loved Chloe out in the field and kicking butt.
GaidinDre
04-20-2007, 08:29 AM
I loved the doctor talking down to Lana. It was nice to finally see someone that doesn't put her on a pedestal.
blaze88
04-20-2007, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by GaidinDre
I loved the doctor talking down to Lana. It was nice to finally see someone that doesn't put her on a pedestal.
haha yea, but too bad he was wrong lol (since she wasn't really gold digging and didn't do the hormone stuff), but it was something still.
ginnyfan
04-20-2007, 08:59 AM
Chloe writing her article to bring Lex DOWN! Clark using his powers. Freak using their powers. Evil Lex.
What? All those things were equally wonderful!
kasealaine
04-20-2007, 09:01 AM
I loved that the writers have finally found a way to get Clark out of the loft.
The intensity in the last scene between Clark and Chloe was absolutely outstanding. It pretty much made me giddy.
Also, I like that Clark was finally man enough to admit that Lana was pregnant and actually ask her if the baby was alright. It's great for him to show some genuine concern for her that doesn't have anything to do with him (since I'm sure he'd rather forget the baby existed). That's the self-sacrificing superman that we need.
NO MORE LOFT SCENES!!! LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!!
Peat Moss
04-20-2007, 09:31 AM
xrayvision--you say we shouldn't have more Chloe because this is supposed to be a show about Clark. But you also say we need more Lionel--who is a very minor character in this season. Don't get me wrong, I like Lionel, but you're being a hypocrite when you say every episode that we don't have enough Lionel, but we shouldn't make the show about anyone but Clark.
dunkman
04-20-2007, 01:10 PM
That way when he becomes Superman, it's for his own reasons, not because it's what Jor-El wants him to become. And then Jor-El should learn to accept him as he is. (from xrayvision)
Jor-el can't learn anything, because he blew up with his planet some 20 years ago. He can communicate with Clark because he saved himself on a crystal (just like a backup disc), but he himself is actually dead!
chlo-el
04-20-2007, 01:58 PM
I love how Clark and Chloe trusted eachother so much. And second I loved Chloe standing up to Lex at the DP. Lex in that scene reminded me of season 3 Lionel. So chilling.
omegadirective
04-20-2007, 05:16 PM
I liked the giant tear-gas bullet.
cloisinmyheart
04-20-2007, 06:14 PM
its about time lana learned the truth
and BRING ON THE WAR
DARKRAGE
04-20-2007, 06:32 PM
I liked the bit about the war starting and Clark using his powers which was cool
boingo
04-20-2007, 11:45 PM
Loved that Lana knows the truth about her "pregnancy"...KK did a fantastic job conveying all of those mixed emotions as the Doctor informed her of the synthetic hormones in her body.
superaussiebabe
04-21-2007, 04:58 AM
I love the Lex evilness its soo sexc Michael just makes it hard for me to hate him even though i know i should hahaha.
Loved the episode was greatly written and directed. I think this episode has made it alittle clearer as to who is killed off in the show.... i'm goin to be heart broken to see Chloe leave but i'm lookin forward to seeing the SHOWDOWN... BRING ON THE WAR BABY
wilder
04-21-2007, 06:00 AM
For me the best was the moment, when Chloe shoot to Lex, and Clark hesitate if let him live.
Lana stood up for herself? All I heard was "nobody ever helps me whine whine I can help myself whine wuss just like always whine whiiine nobody adores me and wants me to be happy and out of trouble... never! whineeee"
SaberFireTiger
04-21-2007, 04:02 PM
It was great seeing the real Lex Luthor.
Peat Moss
04-21-2007, 04:20 PM
Yeah, I fail to see where everyone is getting Lana standing up for herself in this one.Where was that?
Kid Collins
04-21-2007, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Ania
Lana stood up for herself? All I heard was "nobody ever helps me whine whine I can help myself whine wuss just like always whine whiiine nobody adores me and wants me to be happy and out of trouble... never! whineeee"
:lol:
I didn't see any whining from Lana in Progeny.
your definitely watching a different show.
Nospam
04-21-2007, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by wilder
For me the best was the moment, when Chloe shoot to Lex, and Clark hesitate if let him life.
Yes, that was an interesting moment. Why did he hesitate? Well, he has some very good reasons, but he still had to save Lex.
Originally posted by Kid Collins
:lol:
I didn't see any whining from Lana in Progeny.
your definitely watching a different show.
I agree. I didn't see Lana whining either. Clark certainly cranked it up, then Lana basically told him to shut it. That was good. I wish she would do that more often.
xrayvision
04-21-2007, 05:53 PM
I like how they promoted that Clark is getting faster since Chloe didn't even know he ran to get the button under the car.
Nospam
04-21-2007, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I like how they promoted that Clark is getting faster since Chloe didn't even know he ran to get the button under the car.
I guess that's true. There have been subtle hints to the increase in his powers over the years; the leap to the missile in season five, his superspeed, etc.
While I hate the ramifications of the wine cellar scene in Promise, I absolutely loved the superspeed effect from Lana's point of view.
xrayvision
04-21-2007, 06:05 PM
The 1st POV was the viewers' POV, right? Because Lana and Chloe should both see Clark the same way as he superspeeds.
Nospam
04-21-2007, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
The 1st POV was the viewers' POV, right? Because Lana and Chloe should both see Clark the same way as he superspeeds.
Yes, but it seemed to be deliberate that the second POV to be of Lana's particular view.
xrayvision
04-21-2007, 06:29 PM
Yeah. There was no question that the 2nd POV was Lana's. I still hate that episode.
RamonaE
04-21-2007, 09:20 PM
What a wonderful day for the awesomely wonderful wonder woman. I loved Linda's guest appearance! Of course no one would know that I love Wonder Woman.
I also enjoyed the Chloe and Clark interaction and evil Lex.
This is one of the better episodes I've seen in comparison to the increasing crappiness of the 6th season. So thumbs up for me.
meggy
04-22-2007, 09:05 AM
"Will the REAL Lex Luthor please stand up.....please stand up...."
why yes, in this episode he did!:D
Originally posted by Nospam
I agree. I didn't see Lana whining either. Clark certainly cranked it up, then Lana basically told him to shut it. That was good. I wish she would do that more often. It is sad that "Leave me alone, I can deal with it alone like I always do!" is considered non-angsty for the show standards.
Nospam
04-22-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Ania
It is sad that "Leave me alone, I can deal with it alone like I always do!" is considered non-angsty for the show standards.
I'll take it. While I didn't particularly enjoy the passive aggressive dig at the end, it was nice to see her assert herself for once.
tina_mariee
04-23-2007, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Ania
Lana stood up for herself? All I heard was "nobody ever helps me whine whine I can help myself whine wuss just like always whine whiiine nobody adores me and wants me to be happy and out of trouble... never! whineeee"
Lana told Clark she would get through this, like she always did.
I didn't even get a hint of whining from that scene...
:confused:
Originally posted by tina_mariee
I didn't even get a hint of whining from that scene...
:confused: It was between the lines, in the eyes of kicked puppy and typical Lana voice.
RedKRules
04-23-2007, 06:29 AM
The best shot was Chloe beating the doctorīs face at the Institution .......it was hilarioussssssss !! :lol:
Peace and Love??!!
Kryptonian-Ronin
04-23-2007, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I like how they promoted that Clark is getting faster since Chloe didn't even know he ran to get the button under the car.
I liked that scene, best one in the episode for me.
Chloe''s reaction was too cute.
freefall
04-23-2007, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
I like how they promoted that Clark is getting faster since Chloe didn't even know he ran to get the button under the car.
I really like that one too. He must be practically moving at the speed of light. :D Clark is great in this episode IMO, I even find that I don't mind the Clana so much now, hopefully it's just yet another scene to move towards the closure.
Absolutely love the way Lex remarking about his backup plan that would make a prison look like a picnic.
The scene with the doctor and Lana at the end is harsh though, the way he simply assumed Lana injected herself to trap Lex into marriage and deadpanned "I don't know whose baby you saw but I can assure you the baby wasn't yours."
Nospam
04-23-2007, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by seacrystal
I really like that one too. He must be practically moving at the speed of light. :D Clark is great in this episode IMO, I even find that I don't mind the Clana so much now, hopefully it's just yet another scene to move towards the closure.
I recall that last season Lionel referred to Brainiac as moving at nearly the speed of light, so I would assume that Clark has the same ability. I like the subtle increase in Clark's powers over the years. In season two, Clark could barely superjump between two buildings. Fast forward to season six and he is able to jump across Metropolis with ease.
Absolutely love the way Lex remarking about his backup plan that would make a prison look like a picnic.
It was an ominous but hardly credible threat. Chloe has the soon to be Superman, Green Arrow, Impulse, Cyborg and Aquaman in her corner. You don't think they'd move heaven and earth to see that no harm comes to Chloe, especially Clark?
Lex could certainly kidnap and torture/kill Chloe, but it would be the last thing he did for a very long time.
The scene with the doctor and Lana at the end is harsh though, the way he simply assumed Lana injected herself to trap Lex into marriage and deadpanned "I don't know whose baby you saw but I can assure you the baby wasn't yours."
I thought that the doctor was unduly harsh. If Lana was faking her pregnancy she certainly would not have agreed to additional tests. Bah. Anyway...
freefall
04-23-2007, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
It was an ominous but hardly credible threat. Chloe has the soon to be Superman, Green Arrow, Impulse, Cyborg and Aquaman in her corner. You don't think they'd move heaven and earth to see that no harm comes to Chloe, especially Clark?
Lex could certainly kidnap and torture/kill Chloe, but it would be the last thing he did for a very long time.
I take it from Lex's POV when I said I love the way he said it. He definitely doesn't know anything about Chloe having the JL on her side, least of all an alien best friend with an arsenal of superpowers.
To him, he definitely could do anything to Chloe and would get away with it. But I still find it terribly ironic though that Lex was the one who saved her from getting blown up to pieces last time.
tina_mariee
04-23-2007, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Ania
It was between the lines, in the eyes of kicked puppy and typical Lana voice.
I still have no idea what where you're getting all this from.
She said she would get through this pointblank.
Just because you don't like her voice doesn't mean you have to make false implications on something she said that was quite straight forward.
jaime,oburg
04-23-2007, 08:02 PM
I loved how Clark had to stop and ponder before saving Lex from the tear gas bullet. The look on his face....Do I really have to save this guy?
And of course any scene with Lana standing up for herself instead of whining or being the victim is always a breath of fresh air.
I want more Chlex scenes! This is where Lana needs to learn a thing or two about how to handle Lex. Love how Chloe doesn't back down even though Lex's threats are real and she is scared. Hopefully Lana will have the courage to stand up to Lex soon now that the truth has come out.
Lavenderrose73
04-24-2007, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Nospam
I loved that Lana unplugged the Clark whine machine.
I can understand why Clark "whines." Of all people Clark could lose Lana to, it had to be that lousy, fraction-of-a-man Lex. Clark is concerned about Lana's wellbeing, and Lana's heeding Lionel's threat to kill Clark, whom she dearly loves. I think she just wants Clark to leave (not so) well-enough alone so his life is not endangered. But then, I'm just one to give the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying that's how I see it... although Lana can get over herself and show some appreciation for Clark after all the times he's helped her instead of treating him like he doesn't even matter.
RedKRules
04-24-2007, 08:30 AM
I liked how Clark stood up for Chloe .....
Itīs inevitable .... the warīs about to begin .... ;) that was just priceless .....
kal-el_Girl
04-24-2007, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Deana
It should be an option about Mama Kent coming home to save her Baby Hewie.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
very funny!! he just needs his diapers and baby hat!!
margroks
04-24-2007, 09:18 AM
I loved Clark going all alpha male over Lex threatening Chloe. But Lana has no clue what love is or she wouldn't have berated Clark repeatedly, saying such cruel things as "I can't believe I ever loved you!" That is not how you talk to someone you actually love. Plus, let's remember Lana said she wanted Lex over Clark for what, a year and a half at least so all that nonesene in Promise was a total 180 for every character and no evidence at all, considering the hateful things she's said to Clark again and again, of Lana even caring for Clark much less loving him.
And while it's very in character for both Clark and Chloe to want to get Lana out of the line of fire when the war goes down, Lana remains exactly where she wanted to be and she is hardly an innocent bystander.
I loved that Chloe alluded to Clark's abilities (and probably also implying the Justice League) when she was talking ot her mom to reassure her she would be okay. I know some people took offense at that but I don't think Chloe was in any way referring to Clark as a thing; she meant she had amazing friends who'd help her without giving away the specifics. It was also cool to watch Chloe kick butt and I think surely we can lay to rest complaints that she can't take care of herself without Clark's help.
Lavenderrose73
04-24-2007, 08:35 PM
Hey, I respect your viewpoint wholeheartedly: I think Lana needs a good slap in the face. I just see it differently. Luthorcorp is this monopoly owned by a cold, cruel son-of-a-gun who is highly manipulative. Maybe Lana just feels trapped now and doesn't know what else to do but go along with it. She just found out she wasn't really pregnant (gold-digging in reverse :confused: ). I've heard of women faking a pregnancy to marry a wealthy man, but not the wealthy man faking her pregnancy to marry her. I'm very anxious to see Lex's and Lana's next dinner table conversation :eek: .
msleggie
04-24-2007, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
I loved that Lana unplugged the Clark whine machine
Yeah I laughed at that one. It's funny how Lana can dish it out like that with Clark, the man who's been saving her life all this time. But when it comes to Lex, she's a little silent puppy, and don't want to here anything bad about him. I also voted for Clark saying the war's a brewing, that was so awesome!
Seryna
04-25-2007, 04:22 AM
The trust and friendship between Clark and Chloe
I have a dozen YouTube videos of Chlark and Chloe from Labyrinth & Freak about thier friendship and trust. Promise & Combat wanted me to smash Chlark with a bit of kryptonite myself, how he ignored Chloe.
Sola Gracia
04-25-2007, 07:15 AM
This is what I'm waiting for...Lana knew that her pregnancy is fake:rotfl:
Lavenderrose73
04-25-2007, 10:39 AM
Yes, it gave us some really important information we'd been waiting for. Can't wait till Nemesis.
Zaine07
05-06-2007, 03:08 AM
I really like everything about this episode because it was great. And is gonna protect chloe no matter what he throws her way. Chlark forever!!!
angel07
05-28-2007, 11:06 AM
hey Iam new to posting but have been visiting this site for like a year. I loved the chlark in episode and they finally gave us a chlex seen which turned out to be very exciting. the last seen with clark was amazing. But the best part was that it focused less on clana and lexana whine fest scenes and more towards action. I loved that. I think the reason i like chlark so much in this episode is that he turned off the BDA (pissed me off in promise and combat) and turned on the best friend unfortunately i got all excited about a "war" that never even happened in the season finale but if they had continued making eps like justice and this one i think the season could have been alot better.
kyl-el
01-07-2008, 11:47 PM
I liked the epic resonance at the end of the episode when Clark and Chloe were talking about making sure Lana was safe before it "starts". I just wish that the war would come more into fruition in the current (7th) season.
lana 9
07-12-2008, 05:16 PM
the chloe lex at the DP
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