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Thesis
04-19-2007, 07:00 PM
Foreshadowing!!!
redraven
04-19-2007, 07:01 PM
Foreshadowing, indeed. There's been a lot of that concerning Chloe this season....
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 07:01 PM
Could be, but there's a lot of lines like that, I wouldn't put too much into it.
redraven
04-19-2007, 07:10 PM
^^I would. :D
There's so many things foreshadowing a Chloe death though; with that line about the obituary (sp?) in Hydro, her dying in AU Labyrinth, "I'm in Lex's crosshairs."--Progeny, her being a freak, etc.
Lostfan588
04-19-2007, 07:14 PM
YEP!!! :p They're setting Chlex up for a show down! And Clex too. Clark also said Lex feeding Lana to the lions is inevitable....and from Clark "the wars about to begin"...exciting!
alienkinfolk
04-19-2007, 07:15 PM
I'm not going to chase this one because last season Chloe's death talk had me thinking she was going to bite it even after JK died. She is becoming too much of an ally or asset to Clark.
regex_1
04-19-2007, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by alienkinfolk
I'm not going to chase this one because last season Chloe's death talk had me thinking she was going to bite it even after JK died. She is becoming too much of an ally or asset to Clark.
Exactly why he needs to loss her, so that he can learn to stand on his own.
myankskent
04-19-2007, 07:19 PM
I took it as possible foreshadowing as well. The thing is, Lex has Chloe right where he wants her. He has the ability to control what she does unless she can somehow get that evidence away from him which I don't see happening. Chloe seems to be in a no win situation.
poetryfoot
04-19-2007, 07:19 PM
kill or be killed...i don't think it's foreshadowing...we may take it as foreshadowing...but a long time ago lana said that she had the feeling that she was going to die young...that could be taken as foreshadowing too...i don't know...i take everything with a grain of salt (though i won't believe that chloe is going to die until i see it...i don't know--i don't want anyone to die!)
Lostfan588
04-19-2007, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I took it as possible foreshadowing as well. The thing is, Lex has Chloe right where he wants her. He has the ability to control what she does unless she can somehow get that evidence away from him which I don't see happening. Chloe seems to be in a no win situation.
Show Down!!!!!!!!!!! :p Hey Lex is gonna have to go down sumtime! And either Lois or Chloe is gonna be the one to write that little expose, Im assuming.... :p Whatever happens looks like they are currently setting up both Chloe and Lex, and Clark and Lex for a big showdown......and its exciting!
SalvadorianGirl
04-19-2007, 07:22 PM
I doubt it's forshadowing because the killed or be killed would seem more like foreshadowing of Lex killing Chloe.
The season finale spoilers don't cosign with it.
Originally posted by myankskent
I took it as possible foreshadowing as well. The thing is, Lex has Chloe right where he wants her. He has the ability to control what she does unless she can somehow get that evidence away from him which I don't see happening. Chloe seems to be in a no win situation.
Like Chloe said, if exposing him sends her to jail, she's all for it.
Also something that obvious of a line reminds me of her line to Clark in Splinter and people saying that was foreshadowing her death in the 100th episode.
Lostfan588
04-19-2007, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by poetryfoot
kill or be killed...i don't think it's foreshadowing...we may take it as foreshadowing...but a long time ago lana said that she had the feeling that she was going to die young...that could be taken as foreshadowing too...i don't know...i take everything with a grain of salt (though i won't believe that chloe is going to die until i see it...i don't know--i don't want anyone to die!)
And Chloe's "Lex will feed Lana to the Lion's"
And Clarks "It's inevitable"
I dunno but Im guessing alot of this will come into play in the season finale.......At least the Lexana part. And the Chlex prolly draws into next season, And Clex!!! And Chlex!!! CHlex....MmmmmMmmm hot!
jimmyolsenblues
04-19-2007, 07:25 PM
i was very surprised its was chloe not clark, who said we have to protect lana.
harryandginnyfanatic
04-19-2007, 07:26 PM
Has Chloe ever killed anyone? Wasn't the guy in Hidden an accident?
savingpeoplething
04-19-2007, 07:27 PM
I don't think Chloe will die. And, I don't think Lex will die.
So, I'm kind of torn as to what that meant. It could have just been another way to talk about their "war" between them, that it's getting to the very worst possible level.
But, I can see why people think it's foreshadowing.
poetryfoot
04-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
And Chloe's "Lex will feed Lana to the Lion's"
And Clarks "It's inevitable"
I dunno but Im guessing alot of this will come into play in the season finale.......At least the Lexana part. And the Chlex prolly draws into next season, And Clex!!! And Chlex!!! CHlex....MmmmmMmmm hot!
Yeah??? what the heck does that mean that "lex will feed lana to the lions?" I may be having a dumb moment, but what does chloe think lex will do to lana?
oh man--that would be so freakin' AWESOME if there were tons of CHLEX in season seven!! I will have to start fanning myself! I love CHlark and CHlex....
I agree!! mmm mmm good hotter than campbell's soup!
SalvadorianGirl
04-19-2007, 07:29 PM
I also think it's just a figure of speech she was using to describe the situation.
shansgrl
04-19-2007, 07:29 PM
It's forshadowing, but not Chloe's death. I believe we are about to see a full on Chlex showdown. Chloe has Clark and the JL to watch her back. I think there was a bit of forshadowing of Lana's death actually. I think Lex will feed her to the lions.
poetryfoot
04-19-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by SalvadorianGirl
I also think it's just a figure of speech she was using to describe the situation.
oh....i just was like, lions, what the heck??? what does chloe think lex will do to lana...
i was a little confused...when lex said something worse than prison ....i thought he meant experimentation at a 33.1 facility...did he mean in the ground six feet under/?
myankskent
04-19-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by SalvadorianGirl
Like Chloe said, if exposing him sends her to jail, she's all for it.
Also something that obvious of a line reminds me of her line to Clark in Splinter and people saying that was foreshadowing her death in the 100th episode.
I think that Chloe is in a much tighter spot now than she was in during Splinter. Lex basically has the ability to control her. I'm not saying that it's going to lead to her death, but it can certainly impact what Chloe has the ability to do. If she can't get that evidence away from Lex, one of three things will happen, 1) TPTB will simply forget about it, 2) Chloe will be able to get it back, or 3) that evidence could really cause Chloe's downfall in some way.
I really can't see anyone being able to stop Lex at this point. He's not going to go to jail which is why I don't think that Lana or Chloe will be able to get out of their current situations with Lex that easily. It might cost them their lives or it could change their lives forever, IMO.
SalvadorianGirl
04-19-2007, 07:31 PM
When Chloe said they couldn't do anything to Lex until they knew Lana was safe, I could help but think of the spoilers of the season finale and thinking that's what may lead to 33.1 in S7.
poetryfoot
04-19-2007, 07:34 PM
oh, you were talking about kill or be killed....
Originally posted by myankskent
I really can't see anyone being able to stop Lex at this point. He's not going to go to jail which is why I don't think that Lana or Chloe will be able to get out of their current situations with Lex that easily. It might cost them their lives or it could change their lives forever, IMO.
POor lana and chloe!! clark better get his superbutt in gear!
aqgalaxy
04-19-2007, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
i was very surprised its was chloe not clark, who said we have to protect lana.
Actrually makes sense... and I do sort of think that line foreshadows something...
She faced the same thing with Lionel in a sense... He got her blacklisted and her father fired... and she had some evidence against him.
So it's just a new Luthor... I do think Chloe has the evidence against him (IMO She wouldn't waste time typing up the 33.1 article if she didn't have proof...) But I think the last scene was foreshadowing in itself.
Chloe knows Lex will do what Lionel tried to do to her (Bring her down with him.) So Chloe knows when she publish that article Lex will bring her down with him. But Chloe wants to make sure it's JUST HER and no one else.
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 07:40 PM
I really can't see anyone being able to stop Lex at this point. He's not going to go to jail which is why I don't think that Lana or Chloe will be able to get out of their current situations with Lex that easily. It might cost them their lives or it could change their lives forever, IMO.
Clark can stop Lex and don't forget the wildcard, Lionel could stop him.
aqgalaxy
04-19-2007, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I think that Chloe is in a much tighter spot now than she was in during Splinter. Lex basically has the ability to control her. I'm not saying that it's going to lead to her death, but it can certainly impact what Chloe has the ability to do. If she can't get that evidence away from Lex, one of three things will happen, 1) TPTB will simply forget about it, 2) Chloe will be able to get it back, or 3) that evidence could really cause Chloe's downfall in some way.
I really can't see anyone being able to stop Lex at this point. He's not going to go to jail which is why I don't think that Lana or Chloe will be able to get out of their current situations with Lex that easily. It might cost them their lives or it could change their lives forever, IMO.
Or.... Chloe goes into hiding or change her identity....
Lostfan588
04-19-2007, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
I really can't see anyone being able to stop Lex at this point. He's not going to go to jail which is why I don't think that Lana or Chloe will be able to get out of their current situations with Lex that easily. It might cost them their lives or it could change their lives forever, IMO.
Aggalaxy is right it does recall back to the season 3 with the Chlionel situation where Lionel tried to kill her. This time shes got a Personal Bombsquad.
I do believe Lex will be brought down by the season finale tho. I mean no "Clois", no flights? no tights? Then the best way to conclude the series IMO at least is to have the protagonist win. That goes for Clex and Chlex with the article. How? Well I cant say for sure....but sumthing tells me on both fronts Mr. Personal Bombsquad will play a big role in it.
D.M.A.
04-19-2007, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Actrually makes sense... and I do sort of think that line foreshadows something...
She faced the same thing with Lionel in a sense... He got her blacklisted and her father fired... and she had some evidence against him.
So it's just a new Luthor... I do think Chloe has the evidence against him (IMO She wouldn't waste time typing up the 33.1 article if she didn't have proof...) But I think the last scene was foreshadowing in itself.
Chloe knows Lex will do what Lionel tried to do to her (Bring her down with him.) So Chloe knows when she publish that article Lex will bring her down with him. But Chloe wants to make sure it's JUST HER and no one else.
I agree,tonight was forshadowin that chloe may hide/change names etc who knows what...But its very similar to chloe vs lionel of s3,the only diff is now clark is involve wit her.In s3 chloe went thru it mostly alone(She got alil help from clark/lex towards the end but it was mostly her and her phone recordin),but we now kno clark is goin to be behind her all the way.And chloe even tells lex that she'll do anythin to bring him down even if it means goin to jail herself.As aqgal stated she's thinkin of all parties involve this time tho,last time she didn't think of how it would effect clark/her dad...this time she's thinkin of lana,cause she knows clark wont let her(chloe)get into trouble but lana is married to lex.She's alil harder to protect/convince...But this is definitely similar to s3 only a diff luthor,and this time chloe has backup
aqgalaxy
04-19-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
I agree,tonight was forshadowin that chloe may hide/change names etc who knows what...But its very similar to chloe vs lionel of s3,the only diff is now clark is involve wit her.In s3 chloe went thru it mostly alone(She got alil help from clark/lex towards the end but it was mostly her and her phone recordin),but we now kno clark is goin to be behind her all the way.And chloe even tells lex that she'll do anythin to bring him down even if it means goin to jail herself.As aqgal stated she's thinkin of all parties involve this time tho,last time she didn't think of how it would effect clark/her dad...this time she's thinkin of lana,cause she knows clark wont let her(chloe)get into trouble but lana is married to lex.She's alil harder to protect/convince...But this is definitely similar to s3 only a diff luthor,and this time chloe has backup
I GOT ANOTHER PARAGRAPH FROM DO ME ANYTIME YAY!!!
No but seriously... this is Sullivan vs. Luthor Round 2
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:08 PM
No, Chloe isn't going into hiding and going to change her name to lois lane, nope......
CallMeClark
04-19-2007, 08:16 PM
I actually thought the TOTAL opposite. Lana's death was foreshadowed. Chloe clearly said they couldn't make their move on Lex until Lana was out of the way.. . hmm...
aqgalaxy
04-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No, Chloe isn't going into hiding and going to change her name to lois lane, nope......
I was only jokine
I don't want her name to change
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:37 PM
That wasn't directed toward you...........Hmmm no it wasn't.
Charissa70
04-19-2007, 08:40 PM
I just hated the fact that Chloe is an open target until Lana is removed from Lex- and Clark agreed. Chloe was the one who got the direct threat, Lex I really believes loves Lana. Chloe is the one that needs the protection-no matter what, everything goes back to Lana. And I wish for once, clark did not have to be good all the time. Why did he have to show up and stop the bullet-it did not have to kill Lex-I just wanted lex to get some punishment for what he is doing to all these human beings.
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:46 PM
Lex would kill Lana.....Especially when she rips into him about the baby and which will probably involve a "I never loved you, you'll never be half the man Clark is" or something like that.
Deana
04-19-2007, 08:48 PM
^^I vote Lex will cry like a five year old girl if Lana says those things to him.
Chloe just assumed it was Lana. She never even thought of her father or Lois.
aqgalaxy
04-19-2007, 08:48 PM
The only reason why Chloe isn't dead yet or locked up in 33.1 is because Lana loves Chloe and Lex Loves Lana...
Even AM said it herself, Lex is being civil to her only cause he is with Lana...
Take Lana out... Chloe is an open target
D.M.A.
04-19-2007, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Deana
^^I vote Lex will cry like a five year old girl if Lana says those things to him.
Chloe just assumed it was Lana. She never even thought of her father or Lois.
thats because lois nor her dad deal wit lex much now if at all,but lana is married to him/stays wit him and knows(From hydro)that lana still luvs clark.If he feels chloe is bringin him down he knows chloe is protected by clark,but if he thinks clark is involved then he'll go after lana to get to clark.Clark makes light of that tonight knowin that tho lex luvs lana he hates clark jus as much,and if lex is goin down then his wife wit him
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 08:53 PM
Yes, right now Lex is living in a dream world with Lana. Which is kind of surpising because he usually read people good, but he can't seem to tell that his wife is miserable and doesn't want to be with him.
thats because lois nor her dad deal wit lex much now if at all,but lana is married to him/stays wit him and knows(From hydro)that lana still luvs clark.If he feels chloe is bringin him down he knows chloe is protected by clark,but if he thinks clark is involved then he'll go after lana to get to clark.Clark makes light of that tonight knowin that tho lex luvs lana he hates clark jus as much,and if lex is goin down then his wife wit him
But he also knows Clark will stop at nothing to protect Lana and Lex knows who weighs more in Clark's mind.
D.M.A.
04-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
The only reason why Chloe isn't dead yet or locked up in 33.1 is because Lana loves Chloe and Lex Loves Lana...
Even AM said it herself, Lex is being civil to her only cause he is with Lana...
Take Lana out... Chloe is an open target
That and he knows clark would never let him get away wit it,he can kidnap chloe and bring her back(Freak)but not take her away forever.Yea I agree lana plays apart in lex not touchin chloe,but clark imo plays the biggest role.He still went after chloe in Freak even lied to lana,but he brought her back cause he knows clark would never let chloe go missin for 2 long.He'd go straight after lex,and there's not tellin how violent clark would be,lex is bein smart about it.Hurtin chloe could piss clark off and make him violent,hurtin lana could hurt clark emotionally and make him vulnerable.So imo both lana/clark play a role in chloe not bein harm at this point but clark is the main reason.Lex was jus lookin for diff wayz to get to her,and tonight he tried usin her mom now road rage.But as long as clark is in her corner she's safe,so lex can move on to harmin lana now
Deana
04-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
thats because lois nor her dad deal wit lex much now if at all,but lana is married to him/stays wit him and knows(From hydro)that lana still luvs clark.If he feels chloe is bringin him down he knows chloe is protected by clark,but if he thinks clark is involved then he'll go after lana to get to clark.Clark makes light of that tonight knowin that tho lex luvs lana he hates clark jus as much,and if lex is goin down then his wife wit him Lana is the obvious target. I'm only speculating that it could be others that Chloe love that could be hurt.
Not just Lana has to go down in flames. Lex could be talking about everyone who Chloe loves.
Absentee
04-19-2007, 08:59 PM
Bye Bye Chloe.
Is it just me or are they wrapping up Chloe's storyline? She knows Clark's secret for awhile, she's finally working at the DP like she's always wanted, and now she finally reunited with her mom and learned the truth about what caused her to leave Chloe behind.
SmallvilleMan
04-19-2007, 09:00 PM
Lana may be the obvious target, however if he did kill her that would leave him no leverage at all with Clark. Clark would just kill him or come very close. If he killed Chloe, he could say, hey Clark, don't forget about Lana........
D.M.A.
04-19-2007, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yes, right now Lex is living in a dream world with Lana. Which is kind of surpising because he usually read people good, but he can't seem to tell that his wife is miserable and doesn't want to be with him.
But he also knows Clark will stop at nothing to protect Lana and Lex knows who weighs more in Clark's mind.
I agree,lana is an easier target which imo is why chloe is unharm.Lana lives wit lex/married to him where as chloe is hardly around lex/always around clark...lex knows he can get to lana and also wit the recent marriage/knowin lana still luvs clark(Hydro)lex knows lana means more at this point.He knows he can use lana as bait,the prob is he didn't think lana would be so tornup about the baby.I think he notice in Combat she was pullin away from him and he's been tryin to convince himself that lana will come around.But now that she knows the baby wasn't real,he doesn't think lana will leave him forcin him to take action on her.He made it clear in promise he'll do anythin to keep her,and he made it clear in vessel/tresspass that he luvs bein wit her and hurtin clark at the same time.So lana learnin lex faked the pregnancy is good for her gives her motives to leave,but bad in a sense that now lex will have motivation to harm her.
Originally posted by Deana
Lana is the obvious target. I'm only speculating that it could be others that Chloe love that could be hurt.
Not just Lana has to go down in flames. Lex could be talking about everyone who Chloe loves.
True he could,but I think lex is goin to strike where he knows it hurt.And hurtin chloe will only drive clark to attack him which lex knows he's not ready for.But harmin lana could buy him sumtime to prepare for whatever cause he knows clark would be hurt emotionally.I think lana is the obvious target once she confronts lex about leavin him or about the baby,right now he thinks lana is happy about the marriage.But if she knew what he did and pulls away he knows he's lost her for good so he can bring her down then.And in the process scare clark emotionally which leaves chloe vulnerable without clark.Thats why I think chloe broughtup lana's safety more so then her own,cause she knows lana is really the key not herself
Dark Knight23
04-19-2007, 09:07 PM
Or maybe Chloe doesn't die because she goes to jail for trying to print that article or she ends up in freak heavan. I don't think they will kill her but just put her away somewhere so she could come back at a later date.
Kreukie
04-19-2007, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by regex_1
Exactly why he needs to loss her, so that he can learn to stand on his own.
Exactly.
msleggie
04-19-2007, 10:14 PM
Kill or be killed might not neccessarily be about death. It might be Lex's way of letting Chloe know that the gloves are off, and he will no longer be tip toeing around her. Like making sure she and Clark believes that he isn't involved in certain projects, like he did earlier in the series. Now he doesn't care, he had no problem blacking mailing her and tortoring Clark.
CallMeClark
04-20-2007, 06:05 AM
Chloe's final line said it all.
Lana's gonna die.
InLove_with_Chloe
04-20-2007, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by Thesis
Foreshadowing!!!
Well, how long did it take Lex to finally realize he has to focus his attention on Chloe?!?
I mean, this guy is blinded by Lana-love just as much as Clark.
Detorio
04-20-2007, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by regex_1
Exactly why he needs to loss her, so that he can learn to stand on his own.
Couldnt have put it better myself :D. And oh yes "The wars about to begin"...im very excited :D
samanta
04-20-2007, 06:18 AM
It wasn't foreshadowing Chloe's death. It's foreshadowing for Lana's fake death. They need to get her from Lex. What's better way? When Lana will be save the true war will start.
poetryfoot
04-20-2007, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by samanta
It wasn't foreshadowing Chloe's death. It's foreshadowing for Lana's fake death. They need to get her from Lex. What's better way? When Lana will be save the true war will start.
i am tending to think this too!! i really don't think "kill or be killed" meant chloe's death....they throw lines around like that all the time...
Liriel
04-20-2007, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
Show Down!!!!!!!!!!! :p Hey Lex is gonna have to go down sumtime! And either Lois or Chloe is gonna be the one to write that little expose, Im assuming.... :p Whatever happens looks like they are currently setting up both Chloe and Lex, and Clark and Lex for a big showdown......and its exciting! Interestingly enough, one of them has already written that little expose. :D
svfan50
04-20-2007, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by samanta
It wasn't foreshadowing Chloe's death. It's foreshadowing for Lana's fake death. They need to get her from Lex. What's better way? When Lana will be save the true war will start.
probablyyy yeaahhh...Lionel might help Lana elope from Lex..!!!!!!!
aahaaaa...good old Lionel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
boywithbluehanger
04-20-2007, 10:48 AM
Chloe dying does nothing for the show now! I mean it would've mattered pre-season 5 when Clark had been battling witches and loan sharks. But now he's fighting Doomsday-sized villains and partnering up with superheroes! If they killed Chloe now, it would be pointless. He already knows Lex is evil so that won't change.
Clark is already a superhero now that he's purposely looking for dangers to do away with. He's already been inspired by 4 guys (who were inspired by him!) to wear a uniform of sorts and fight strategically. (When he'll actually decide to participate in that has yet to be seen)
Why the hell would tptb kill Chloe?! It does nothing for character growth on the show. Now Lana's death could drive one particular man insane. Lex only knows one good woman that he likes and can be with (Lana). Clark knows three (Lana, Chloe and Lois)...so he ain't sufferin' if Lana gets lowered under the ground! theres more important things going on in Clark's world.....like bouncing rubber balls in the loft and finding hot sales on red jackets.
svsabbiesv
04-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Yea def someone is going down, and thats why It will be Lionel first, then Lex will play with Chloe all season long, just like he said it last nite, i knew you would say that, so i have a plan b. and you will see prison would have been a picnic. and for some reason, being that it will be the season 7 will be the last for Michael Rosenbaum to play Lex, that Chloe will def have to do something with that.
I wish he would have mentioned to her you kno Lana wouldn't appreciate this, but dirrr Lex would Lose Lana in an instant! haha well he's losin her either way lol
hahahahh
he's gonna go insane! now everyone will be hatin on Lex that he'll turn to superevil!
brianstachowski
04-20-2007, 05:06 PM
yea the best part about lines like this is that the writers can make them everything or choose to make them nothing.
smoky
04-20-2007, 05:20 PM
Lex told Chloe to kill the story, or else. Chloe & Clark talked last night that they have to wait & make sure Lana is safe before they go after Lex. Imo, Chloe is another red herring. I think Lana will either die going after the Luthors or she will fake her death. Because, last night Lana found out Lex tricked her into marraige by making her believe she was pregnant. Lex then let her think she had a miscarraige. Lana told Clark, 'this is not the life I wanted.' This was BEFORE she found out Lex tricked her. Will she go to Clark for help, knowing Lionel has damaging information on him?
Shadow116
04-20-2007, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by shansgrl
It's forshadowing, but not Chloe's death. I believe we are about to see a full on Chlex showdown. Chloe has Clark and the JL to watch her back. I think there was a bit of forshadowing of Lana's death actually. I think Lex will feed her to the lions.
Lana won't die,major mythos connections :D :lol: no matter how different and horrible SV Lana is compared to the best Lana ever,comic book Lana :D
Lionel and Chloe are the most likely candidates for death but if either die I at least hope they die the right way. Protecting or taking someone down with them.
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