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Peat Moss

04-19-2007, 07:17 PM

"There's a storm a'comin'"

I have to wonder though--what's up with this stalemate between the good guys and the bad guys? Lex doesn't need to threaten Chloe with 33.1 imprisonment--he could just capture her and she wouldn't be ABLE to print the article. Clark knows where another of Lex's facilities is and could destroy it, not to mention just going after Lex himself, too fast for Lex to hurt Lana. Why do they keep making threats when either one could significantly harm the other?

Peat Moss

04-19-2007, 07:25 PM

But why hasn't the war already begun? Why do they keep threatening each other when either one could vitally hurt the other? Lex could just capture Chloe, eliminating the danger of a story, and Clark could get to Lex before he had a chance to hurt Lana. What's with this stalemate?

hemmy

04-19-2007, 07:27 PM

cant wait, the last 3 episodes off of hiatus have come at the same time as a calculus test and i am eager to see the rest of the season with no break!

Lostfan588

04-19-2007, 07:28 PM

I kno...he's starting to be Personal Bombsquad FINALLY Bout time :p .

Trock316

04-19-2007, 07:29 PM

It about time Clark got ready to throw down with Lex instead of just standing back like ain't nothing happen.

regex_1

04-19-2007, 07:30 PM

Time to call in the Justice League.

spideyfan

04-19-2007, 07:36 PM

lets get serious...clark isnt gonna do nothin

SmallvilleMan

04-19-2007, 07:39 PM

Clark will do something if something happens to Chloe or Lana and thinks it's lex

Supermansthebest

04-19-2007, 07:42 PM

Yeah I agree tht the war should have been on earlier. Couz when Clark saw Bart being tortured by Lex in Justice, how could he let him marry Lana! I mean he almost killed Bart, your friend! wth?
The other thing is tht these ppl keep a lot of secrets from eachother. I know Lana isnt gonna tell Clark or Chloe abt her pregnancy tht possibly Lex was behind drugging her and wht not. She wont tell Clark tht she knows abt everything, I mean no ones listening.

SmallvilleMan

04-19-2007, 07:43 PM

I think she'll tell Clark eventually....

A MAN OF REASON!

04-19-2007, 07:45 PM

Finally, battle lines have been drawn and Clark and Lex are about to bring their "war" to the next level. We are starting to see both of their true selves coming to light. Clark is now willing to do whatever he has to save the ones he loves and cares about..............
While Lex is showing that he will go to ANY lengths to destroy the ones he hates most. Talk about the Unstoppable Force vs. The Immovable Object! ;)
This is gonna get ugly................

Ginx

04-19-2007, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Peat Moss
"There's a storm a'comin'"

I have to wonder though--what's up with this stalemate between the good guys and the bad guys? Lex doesn't need to threaten Chloe with 33.1 imprisonment--he could just capture her and she wouldn't be ABLE to print the article. Clark knows where another of Lex's facilities is and could destroy it, not to mention just going after Lex himself, too fast for Lex to hurt Lana. Why do they keep making threats when either one could significantly harm the other?

Well - we have to assume that Lex doesn't think Clark is in on the 33.1 whole shabang - so maybe Lex is just pushing Chloe to see who pushes back - maybe it's a test to see if he can draw Clark out for what he really is?

Deana

04-19-2007, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by spideyfan
lets get serious...clark isnt gonna do nothin :lol: He'll do what he does best. Whine and take orders from Chloe.

CrazyforKal

04-19-2007, 08:12 PM

Anybody think there was forshadowing in CK's comment about making sure Lana was safe before they went after Lex?

You think he and Chloe may have something to do with faking her death?

D.M.A.

04-19-2007, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Ginx
Well - we have to assume that Lex doesn't think Clark is in on the 33.1 whole shabang - so maybe Lex is just pushing Chloe to see who pushes back - maybe it's a test to see if he can draw Clark out for what he really is?
That maybe,notice clark says lex could do sumthin to lana to get to him.So he knows if he pushes chloe he could get a reaction out of clark,but I think lex is smarter tho.He knows he can't go after chloe and jus lock her up,clark would come after him,so he jus threatens her.But to actually do sumthin to lana is diff tho,the doc made it seem like lana was only in it for the money.Lex may use that fake pregnacy against her,he can harm lana and really push clark.So I think lex is weighin his options,he knows lana is more clueless than chloe.Its easier to actually attack lana at this point then chloe who has clark there at all times.But threaten chloe wit her freedom/career is 2 jus stall chlark while he weighs his options imo

aqgalaxy

04-19-2007, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by D.M.A.
That maybe,notice clark says lex could do sumthin to lana to get to him.So he knows if he pushes chloe he could get a reaction out of clark,but I think lex is smarter tho.He knows he can't go after chloe and jus lock her up,clark would come after him,so he jus threatens her.But to actually do sumthin to lana is diff tho,the doc made it seem like lana was only in it for the money.Lex may use that fake pregnacy against her,he can harm lana and really push clark.So I think lex is weighin his options,he knows lana is more clueless than chloe.Its easier to actually attack lana at this point then chloe who has clark there at all times.But threaten chloe wit her freedom/career is 2 jus stall chlark while he weighs his options imo

I agree... I mean... I was soo afraid in that final scene

I thought he was gonna say he got her fired!

Dark Knight23

04-19-2007, 09:05 PM

The war is about to begin.... What did Clark mean by this. How is he going to war with Lex when he has to save Lex in the next episode. Or does something transpire in the cave that makes him go after Lex more. Thoughts?

dimeo782002

04-19-2007, 09:06 PM

well it's about time dam i love it when clark is mad !!!!!!!!!!

Dark Knight23

04-19-2007, 09:09 PM

HotStudsSuccess

04-19-2007, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by spideyfan
lets get serious...clark isnt gonna do nothin

:mad: I have decided I will take you to Lex and let him, his security and doctors take care of you, he owes me a favor.

GottaLoveHotSuperHeros

04-19-2007, 09:30 PM

33.1 war possibly? what would be really cool is that the way COULD'VE been with the Justice League against Lex's projects.... but since that isn't going to happen this season... :(

D.M.A.

04-19-2007, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Dark Knight23
The war is about to begin.... What did Clark mean by this. How is he going to war with Lex when he has to save Lex in the next episode. Or does something transpire in the cave that makes him go after Lex more. Thoughts?
Well from early spoilers it was stated lionel has to beg clark to go,so I'm guessin its sort of like sneeze.Where lionel ask and clark says no then lionel comes up wit sum reason that makes clark go help.But I think what he meant by a war is if lex comes after chloe he'll be waitin,and that he's now goin to keep his eye on lex and find what he can to help chloe bring him down.Notice when chlark were ridin he didn't wanna stop to check on what happen wit lex,but now he's basically sayin he'll keep an eye on lex no matter what.Thats what I took from his comments,that lex will be a concern of his now and not jus because he married lana.But because he's threaten ppl now mainly chloe

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
I agree... I mean... I was soo afraid in that final scene

I thought he was gonna say he got her fired!
I thought the same at first,espcially when he didn't come thru the double doors like everyone else does.I jus knew he was gon say he got her fired(sort of like jimmy),but was glad when it was only him tryin to blackmail chloe.I mean if she doesn't have proof like he says then he shouldn't worry about the article bein printed.But he obviously knows chloe has enough to atleast get police lookin lex way which lex feels he doesn't need now.So he tried 1 uppin her to get her to backoff,but I think he knows she wont she'll run to clark.Which is why I think lana is in trouble,cause once lex see that chloe doesn't back off he'll go to plan B which is hurt lana/get to clark.Cause chloe is protected by clark,so scaryin her wit her job/freedom he thought would work.Now that he knows it wont he's jus waitin for chloe to make a move so he can go after lana which is a much easier target at this point

Ireallylikethisshow

04-19-2007, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by Deana
:lol: He'll do what he does best. Whine and take orders from Chloe.

:lol: with yo-yo feelings about EVERYTHING on the side.

msleggie

04-19-2007, 10:19 PM

Clark might have been suggesting a war between him and Lex.

msleggie

04-19-2007, 10:21 PM

Clark better back up his words! He's all talk now, but when the time comes, he better be ready. Because he's right, the war is coming, and it's a lot sooner than he might think.

meggy

04-19-2007, 10:29 PM

^ i agree... he better be ready when it hits..whether it is this season or next. I have a feeling this 33.1 story is not going to end this season...but might very well be the culmination of next, and possibly final, season....

and that is when I think the war will be full blown

Lex is a god

04-19-2007, 10:42 PM

Bring it on. My Lex will always come on top!!!!

SUperFInger

04-19-2007, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by Dark Knight23
The war is about to begin.... What did Clark mean by this. How is he going to war with Lex when he has to save Lex in the next episode. Or does something transpire in the cave that makes him go after Lex more. Thoughts?

If u watched the preview to Nemesis, you'll see that Lex was walking away from Clark as Clark was yellin for him. Theres no way Clark saves Lex, Lex was gonna leave him to die. Atleast thats what I got out of the preview.

All about Clark

04-19-2007, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by msleggie
Clark might have been suggesting a war between him and Lex.

Agreed. But it's more than that. Clark knows he has to protect the world from Lex at this point while keeping Chloe and Lana safe.

hassenmorad

04-19-2007, 11:35 PM

War to protect Lana and Chloe from Lex, probably.

smallvillebuddy

04-20-2007, 01:02 AM

I thought he said a war is about to begin and I took it as hes gonna try and get Lana out of there so he can do something about Lex

Dark Knight23

04-20-2007, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by SUperFInger
If u watched the preview to Nemesis, you'll see that Lex was walking away from Clark as Clark was yellin for him. Theres no way Clark saves Lex, Lex was gonna leave him to die. Atleast thats what I got out of the preview.

I think in the preview I saw Clark helping Lex down the tunnel or something. Maybe that's going to be in the beginning of the episode.

samanta

04-20-2007, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Dark Knight23
I think in the preview I saw Clark helping Lex down the tunnel or something. Maybe that's going to be in the beginning of the episode.
I don't think Clark would let Lex die. Even if there was some kind of war between them.

Ginx

04-20-2007, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by Dark Knight23
The war is about to begin.... What did Clark mean by this. How is he going to war with Lex when he has to save Lex in the next episode. Or does something transpire in the cave that makes him go after Lex more. Thoughts?

I took that as having to do with 33.1 and that this whole thing with Chloe and Chloe's mom is just another notch against Lex and his 'hobby' of collecting meteor-freaks. Clark might be referring to that everything is bubbling over now and it's just inevitable that there has to be a show down between the JL and the Lex meteor-freaks.

That being said - most of the freaks don't really seem like they want to stay at 33.1......maybe we've yet to see what Lex's real army is?

I def don't think it had anything to do with Lana. The only ref it made to Lana was that Chloe and Clark had to tip-toe around Lex to make sure he doesn't hurt Lana - could that be the reason Lex wanted her to marry him in the first place? Doesn't add up with his behavior.....

last man of krypton

04-20-2007, 08:24 AM

This is Clark, he's not going to do anything. This is how I imagine the rest of the scene played out:

Clark: You're right, he'd feed her to the lions just to spite me. It's inevitable; the war's about to begin.
Chloe: What will you do then?
Clark: ...well, it's too late to bale hay. I guess I'll just have a sandwich, sit in the loft and daydream. Maybe bounce my baseball again.

mtnmama236

04-20-2007, 09:34 AM

I don't think that Clark sees Lex as a threat to anyone outside of their 'Smallville' world yet.

He knows that Lex is trying to build an army, but between the Justice League & the reluctant recruits I don't think he sees 33.1 as a serious global threat yet.

I'm tired of Clark's never ending love for Lana. I think that Clark doesn't believe that Lex truly loves Lana, he thinks that Lex is playing a one-up game with Clark. Lex has always wanted what Clark had--and he got Clark's girl. I think Lex loves Lana as much as Lex can love anyone, but there is a measure of truth to him wanting Lana because she was Clark's.

For the moment the war is still very personal, but it will reach global proporations soon.

GooN

04-20-2007, 09:51 AM

he's gonna keep running in and out of Lex's mansion stealing his toilet paper.......war's hell.

wallyK

04-20-2007, 10:12 AM

Clark has known that Lex is doing evil stuff for quite some time. What changed is that Lex now has something on Chloe. So, Chloe is no longer safe. Clark has to take down Lex in order to protect Chloe. Of course, Lana also has to be protected.

Just how does Clark intend to take down Lex? He would probably like to get enough evidence to send Lex to jail for good. So, he really needs to work with Oliver. But Oliver pretty much believes that Lex is beyond the reach of the law, and that vigilante action is justified. We know that Lex will never be caught ( he is the villian in the show), so in that sense, Oliver is right.

So, Clark's war will mean dealing with individual threats that Lex creates, and therefore opposing his efforts. But it will be a losing battle. Oliver should build a private prison for Lex, or Clark should banish Lex to the phantom zone. Either option would be completely just (because Lex is guilty), but of course neither is going to happen.

Deana

04-20-2007, 12:10 PM

Well Lex will be sitting on top of the world when Clark comes back as Superman.

It's not even a guess as to who will win in the end.

Super Lionel!

Jack-El49

04-20-2007, 01:01 PM

Actually, in STM1, Lex Luthor had recently gotten out of prison when CK shows up in Metropolis, didn't he? That is where he met Otis, I thought. So next season could end with Lex going to prison and CK going to his training.

Kryptonian-Ronin

04-20-2007, 01:04 PM

The war has already begun.

Clark is a Pepsi guy and Lex is all about the Coke.

Spit balls at 10 paces !!

Deana

04-20-2007, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Jack-El49
Actually, in STM1, Lex Luthor had recently gotten out of prison when CK shows up in Metropolis, didn't he? That is where he met Otis, I thought. So next season could end with Lex going to prison and CK going to his training. True. I'm hoping they are trying to give this Lex more of a vibe of the one from Lois & Clark. That Lex held the cards in pretty much everything.

MozartRequiem

04-21-2007, 02:07 PM

"If u watched the preview to Nemesis, you'll see that Lex was walking away from Clark as Clark was yellin for him. Theres no way Clark saves Lex, Lex was gonna leave him to die. Atleast thats what I got out of the preview."

True, but even though Lex probably won't save Clark, Clark will still end up saving Lex. That's just who Superman is. He saves everyone, despite how evil they are. Batman will not kill, like Superman, but he also doesn't feel obligated to save everyone, as shown in "Batman Begins". But our future Superman just can't leave Lex to die. It's not who he is.

I'm hoping Lex will see how much of a better man Clark is in this episode, and feel some remorse for everything he's done to him. Maybe he'd even try to thank him for saving his life, but Clark would just walk away, and Lex would feel, for just a moment, that old feeling of uncertainty and guilt that he always used to feel, once upon a time.

Atomic girl

04-21-2007, 03:47 PM

Sounded to me like Chloe needed to be protected and Clark was going to do it, but Chloe reminded him about Lana and he acknowledged that they would have to make sure she was safe, but that a showdown was coming.

Loved the fact that this time he thought of Chloe first and foremost. Chloe being threatened really made him mad and he was willing to act on it, still is, but he knows he needs to be intelligent about it.

SUperFInger

04-21-2007, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by MozartRequiem

I'm hoping Lex will see how much of a better man Clark is in this episode, and feel some remorse for everything he's done to him. Maybe he'd even try to thank him for saving his life, but Clark would just walk away, and Lex would feel, for just a moment, that old feeling of uncertainty and guilt that he always used to feel, once upon a time.

lol, I doubt it. Have u seen how evil Lex has become in the past few episodes? Lex would never thank Clark. And Im not sure how Clark is gonna end up saving Lex seeing how Clark is the one who is in trouble with all the meteor rocks and Lex is up and walkion around. But I guess we'll wait and see.

Dark Knight23

04-21-2007, 08:43 PM

It's going to be interesting to see the relationship after Nemesis because Lex leaves Clark. I wonder how that is going to affect Clark.

SheaMan

04-22-2007, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by wallyK
We know that Lex will never be caught ( he is the villian in the show), so in that sense, Oliver is right.

Why not? Lionel went to prison for patricide and his power remained. In the comic books Luthor is a mastermind. I even seem to recall certain times when Luther was happy to be in prison because he felt it protected him from enemies.

Oh it would be so tragically sweet....

They get the proof to put Lex in jail. Lionel pretends to be ok with this. Then Lex escapes prison and creates his first "evil lair" but in doing so he convinces everyone is dead. In retribution for the death of his son Lional goes cracky and has Lana and Chloe killed. Then in the last goodish action of his life Lex kills his father (and lets throw Ma in there too for good measure) with his bare hands in retribution for killing the woman that he loves (despite being betrayed).

Everything ends with the now totally shellshocked and stoic Lois and Clark recapturing Lex. Lois writes the expose that makes her career, and Clark says goodbye to Smallville.. forever.

Thats assuming "the end of the world" as of the end of the seventh season.

I can't imagine a way to pull this out much longer without breaking the cape and flying rules. On the flipside I wouldn't put it past them to break those rules for .. one .. last .. season .. with Clark becoming superman in the 8th season. Clark in the cape.. probably have batman in that season too.

Maybe the Superman suite will turn out to be some form of Kryptonian body armor?

Insomuch as "the war" maybe it metaphore - or maybe all those meteor freaks that got "rescued" by Ollie were also getting recruited. Its not like Ollie has always been written as the infallible hero. He has been known to "go overboard" in the comics.

norman619

04-22-2007, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Dark Knight23
The war is about to begin.... What did Clark mean by this. How is he going to war with Lex when he has to save Lex in the next episode. Or does something transpire in the cave that makes him go after Lex more. Thoughts?

He's obviously talking about going toe to toe with Lex but I highly doubt it. If he really wanted to do the right thing he'd simply catch a movie instead of saving Lex. Lana and all others would be safe. But no. This makes way too much sense. We are gonna have Clark giving Lex mean looks and stuff but that's gonna be the extent of this war he speaks of. Sometimes the ends do justify the means. So everyone let's all sit back and watch as Clark frustrates us even more in the next episode....

Originally posted by Atomic girl
Sounded to me like Chloe needed to be protected and Clark was going to do it, but Chloe reminded him about Lana and he acknowledged that they would have to make sure she was safe, but that a showdown was coming.

Loved the fact that this time he thought of Chloe first and foremost. Chloe being threatened really made him mad and he was willing to act on it, still is, but he knows he needs to be intelligent about it.

To act on it? What do you think he was gonna do? He was gonna do nothing as always. Give Lex a nasty look and tell him he's a bad guy. He'll never treat Lex like a whoe who owes him money. Make no mistake. He's not being "intelligent" about it. He's being a big puss about it. Kinda reminds me of when I was a kid and a friend woudl always have me hold him back as he pretended to want to beat up some guy. Clark is all show when it comes to the REAL badguy types like Lex.