Lana's Baby /Pregnacy Questions (merged)

[Elite]

What do you think the real truth is?

im guessing it never actually existed, and Lex just wanted her to marry him.

[superhippie2000]

im not sure they will talk about her baby this episode. maybe a little something but nothing major.

[DRock1492]

no way dude, the baby exists. In fact i guarentee it is still alive, and that lex is using kryptonite to make it grow at an abnormal rate. To be honest with you, I don't think it was Lex's. I think he used clark's blood from season 2-3(which again lex doesn't know it is his). He knew the blood was from a super powered being and he is trying to use it to make the ultimate super soldier. This will turn into a bizzaro like character and clark will have to fight him in the finale or something!

[lillie_poo_pod]

I honestly don't think Lex is that pathetic to use drugs to make Lana seem preggers so she would marry him. Until we have further proof that Lex did that I'm sticking to Lex laced her vitamins with kryptonite.

[ChlarkMe]

I think it's Lana's Clone

[Elite]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
I think it's Lana's Clone

cos one Lana isnt enough :confused:

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by Elite
cos one Lana isnt enough :confused:

I didn't say I want another Lana, but I think it might happen.

Why????
Because of Lexmas. Lana died after childbirth. I see Lex as wanting to ensure he has her with him always even if he can't save her from death, he can bring her back.

[Elite]

i didnt say you wanted it to happen lol

so is that what progeny refers to??

Progeny - the product of reproduction or replication

[LuckyKrypto]

Originally posted by Elite
What do you think the real truth is?

im guessing it never actually existed, and Lex just wanted her to marry him.

I don't think there was ever a baby either. I agree with what you said.

[avidreader]

Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
I honestly don't think Lex is that pathetic to use drugs to make Lana seem preggers so she would marry him. Until we have further proof that Lex did that I'm sticking to Lex laced her vitamins with kryptonite.

I definitely think Lex is pathetic enough to drug Lana into thinking she was pregnant. Lex would do anything to get one up on Clark. He thinks he's won the game, but as Clark said, "he doesnt even know the rules".

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
I didn't say I want another Lana, but I think it might happen.

Why????
Because of Lexmas. Lana died after childbirth. I see Lex as wanting to ensure he has her with him always even if he can't save her from death, he can bring her back.

Interesting. Lana carrying her own clone in her womb? That would add an interesting spin to some recent ethical debates in Congress. Anyway, I don't personally think that will happen on the show, but it's an interesting take!

[superspider02]

yea i also agree with the idea that their was a baby in lana but lex had it removed cause it really a 33.1 project he was/is working on and it could possibly be the "Bizzaro" that is rumored using some of clark's blood from season 2 and possibly lana's dna too to make the baby. He took it from her so he can have it grow at a faster rate

[kismet]

there was never a baby. that's my story and i'm sticking to it!

[SmallvilleMan]

Course there ws never a baby, that's why Lex destroyed all the evidence.....Why else would he?

[Hibiscus]

The pregnancy was fake. All gloves against Lex are off.

[cmm]

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH biggest cop out EVER!!!!

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Hibiscus
The pregnancy was fake. All gloves against Lex are off.


Whoopppiiieie....HOOOO HHHAAAAA!!

I KNEW IT!!:rotfl:

[Iowa_Gent]

You had to know that is what happened that Lex tricked her.

[cmm]

That is such a cop out!!!! I'm dissapointed!!!!!!

[cantankerous]

Best part of the episode!!

[harryandginnyfanatic]

And there we all were thinking it was something much more sinister. But nooooo.

[shansgrl]

Yep, that was called by many of us a long time ago.

FAKE BABY!

[Hibiscus]

I was kind of hoping that it was meteor enhanced something or another. "The pregnancy was fake" was too predictable.

[supermanfan04]

i was way off...i thought that lex had the baby growing in a lab somewhere!!

[Ginx]

I still don't believe it - I think that Lana did have something........but that Lex snagged it away.....

Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.

Lex better watch his back - once Clark finds out there was no baby......or a snagged sorta baby.....

[redraven]

Synthetic hormones? I was hoping for something different....I already read that in 35348 other Clana fan fics about 2 months ago. :rotfl:

But seriously...I kinda knew that would happen a long time ago.

[Kid Collins]

Unless it could've been Clark's baby...this is the best alternative. by far.


I liked that the doctor had to make his own conclusion about Lana being forced to marry a billionaire because of her faked pregnancy. It's like he's the dude that has to point this out to the audience. :lol:

[cmm]

Originally posted by harryandginnyfanatic
And there we all were thinking it was something much more sinister. But nooooo.

I'm quite dissapointed it's not. Would have made this season better than it actually is but, I guess we can't put too much faith in the writers.

[cantankerous]

Lex is a loser!

[erikamichelle614]

omg, my mouth was hanging open when i heard what the doctor said, but in a way, i kind of expected this.
it was a great episode, and now lana sees lex's true nature!

[biggkoz]

Lana will die at the end of this season but krypto lana will be back next season.

[Ilovebeinglost]

I have to watch it again but I thought the doctor said that he thought she was faking it to marry a billionaire. Didn't he make it sound like she's the one doing the faking ?

Is Lex also paying this doctor to take any heat off himself?

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
I have to watch it again but I thought the doctor said that he thought she was faking it to marry a billionaire. Didn't he make it sound like she's the one doing the faking ?

You heard it wrong. The doctor implied that Lex faked the pregnancy so Lana could marry the billionaire.

[angeloo]

im pretty sure he said that she was faking it so she can marry a billionaire

[BeatlesRule]

I also heard it as the doctor saying that Lana took the pills so she could trick Lex into marrying her. A logical assumption from the doctor I guess.

[Kid Collins]

I just rewatched the scene.

You guys are right.

But of course Lana knows the truth.

I cannot wait for the next Lexana scene. :cool:

[xrayvision]

Am I the only one who was laughing hysterically when she said that? It had to be the funniest line in the episode. Lana finally realized that Clark & Chloe were right.

[Chrisluvstommy]

I am soooo jumping up and down cause I told my sister it was a fake pregnancy I looove being right...woo I wonder what Mrs Luthor is gonna do now ??!!!

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Chrisluvstommy
I am soooo jumping up and down cause I told my sister it was a fake pregnancy I looove being right...woo I wonder what Mrs Luthor is gonna do now ??!!!

Become the ex-Mrs Luthor asap. :lol:

[puppiesnkittens]

That doctor was cruel to her. His bedside manner needs some work. ;) This whole situation is awful.

[bibi_sv___clana4ever]

It was funny but poor lana....I'm sorry for her!

[Heilige]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Am I the only one who was laughing hysterically when she said that? It had to be the funniest line in the episode. Lana finally realized that Clark & Chloe were right.


Does she think Lex drugged her? I'm not sure if she is still confused or not.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Heilige
Does she think Lex drugged her? I'm not sure if she is still confused or not.

Lex is the person who benefitted from her being pregnant.

I don't think she's confused.

[Kara_Zor-El]

I don't know what she thinks. But I certainly think Lex drugged her. What else could have happened. My question is why? Was it just to get her to marry him? I somehow think there was another motive behind it. I just don't know what.

[Peat Moss]

I actually am more convinced that there is indeed a baby after this episode. I was thinking they would present it that Lana somehow found out that Lex had faked the whole thing--a plot that would have been very disappointing. But now Lex is making it look like Lana did it--so now Lana knows but the blames on her, meanwhile Lex (who arranged for Lana to find out there "was no pregnancy") has the baby in secret. There's no way that doctor wasn't on Lex's payroll--he's not that sloppy. Lana wouldn't have found out unless Lex wanted her to. He knew he couldn't keep it a secret forever, so he revealed it to her but made it seem like she did it. Clever, evil Lex.

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
[B]I actually am more convinced that there is indeed a baby after this episode. I was thinking they would present it that Lana somehow found out that Lex had faked the whole thing--a plot that would have been very disappointing. But now Lex is making it look like Lana did it--so now Lana knows but the blames on her, meanwhile Lex (who arranged for Lana to find out there "was no pregnancy") has the baby in secret. There's no way that doctor wasn't on Lex's payroll--he's not that sloppy.

But Lex didn't anticipate that Lana would get attacked by that freak.

So there's no way he could've made sure that one of his doctors that examined Lana.

Lex is toast.

Even the doctor said that the sonogram of the baby definitely wasn't hers. Lex could've easily faked that as well.

[spideyfan]

the baby existed and lex has it...the doc told lana what he did cuz lex slipped up and didnt cover his tracks...

[Kara_Zor-El]

A very good point!

[Kid Collins]

There's no baby.

that was the whole point of Lana's storyline. She's been duped by Lex.

[Heilige]

Originally posted by Kara_Zor-El
I don't know what she thinks. But I certainly think Lex drugged her. What else could have happened. My question is why? Was it just to get her to marry him? I somehow think there was another motive behind it. I just don't know what.


I think he did it to secure the marriage. Remember earlier Lex said Lana would have time to have many children all over the house. That implies he was going to get her preagnant for real later. I believe he faked it because he felt he didn't have enough time to get her preagnant. He felt she would have left. Now that they are married he figures the marriage is secure and NOW he can have a real child with her. Well, now that Lana found out the truth, that will obviously backfire.

[kyl-el]

What weird is the fact that Lex always covers his tracks when he messes up. And you'd think that he'd be extra careful with this whole baby thing. So for him to just hire a doctor who would tell her the truth is a little odd. Unless he realizes that she doesn't love him anymore so he made this doctor scare Lana into realizing that the whole deal could make her look like a golddigger. That way he could still control her even when she's distant.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
I actually am more convinced that there is indeed a baby after this episode. I was thinking they would present it that Lana somehow found out that Lex had faked the whole thing--a plot that would have been very disappointing. But now Lex is making it look like Lana did it--so now Lana knows but the blames on her, meanwhile Lex (who arranged for Lana to find out there "was no pregnancy") has the baby in secret. There's no way that doctor wasn't on Lex's payroll--he's not that sloppy. Lana wouldn't have found out unless Lex wanted her to. He knew he couldn't keep it a secret forever, so he revealed it to her but made it seem like she did it. Clever, evil Lex.

Good theory but the only thing that doesn't make sense is why he would divulge that she was never pregnant if he was on Lex's payroll. He would just go along with the fact that she lost her baby.

[Peat Moss]

Yeah, but he knows she'll find out sooner or later. He'd rather it be sooner, under his control.

[Pete Tha Bo$$ Ross]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
I actually am more convinced that there is indeed a baby after this episode. I was thinking they would present it that Lana somehow found out that Lex had faked the whole thing--a plot that would have been very disappointing. But now Lex is making it look like Lana did it--so now Lana knows but the blames on her, meanwhile Lex (who arranged for Lana to find out there "was no pregnancy") has the baby in secret. There's no way that doctor wasn't on Lex's payroll--he's not that sloppy. Lana wouldn't have found out unless Lex wanted her to. He knew he couldn't keep it a secret forever, so he revealed it to her but made it seem like she did it. Clever, evil Lex.

if this were true i think that lex would have just let her think that she actually had a baby, if she did actually have a baby then the fake hormones thing would not be necessary, and lana's not going to seriously believe that she did it, if lex was prepared to divulge this theory to her then he know that she is going to hate him for life (which after tonight i think its inevitable) and lex would not want that at any cost.

[Chlarkerlover]

Originally posted by kyl-el
What weird is the fact that Lex always covers his tracks when he messes up. And you'd think that he'd be extra careful with this whole baby thing. So for him to just hire a doctor who would tell her the truth is a little odd. Unless he realizes that she doesn't love him anymore so he made this doctor scare Lana into realizing that the whole deal could make her look like a golddigger. That way he could still control her even when she's distant.

I agree that he might have wanted her to look like a golddigger, but I think thats if anyone else found out. I'm not sure he would want her to know what was going on. But now he's screwed, if I was Lana I'd get out of there so fast I'd out run Bart.

[bibi_sv___clana4ever]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
There's no baby.

that was the whole point of Lana's storyline. She's been duped by Lex.

So why did lex burn a picture of a baby???:confused:

[xrayvision]

^^Because there just may be one, or Lex doesn't want any evidence of the baby's image he used in Lana's sonogram (if it was faked). He could easily have her committed like Lionel did to him and say it was delusional for her to think she was pregnant.

[SmallvilleMan]

Lex can't pay off every doctor in the world.....You can't plan on Lana getting hurt and going to the hospital or a doctor even knowing that she was pregnant. Remember, all the files were destroyed? The guy was just smart, he was a jerk, but a smart one.


^^Because there just may be one, or Lex doesn't want any evidence of the baby's image he used in Lana's sonogram (if it was faked). He could easily have her committed like Lionel did to him and say it was delusional for her to think she was pregnant.

He can't now that the doctor knows about it........

[BWOracle]

Why do we always over-think these things?

The baby was fake. The doctor is not on Lex's payroll. Lex didn't expect Lana to end up in the hospital (obviously Lex never watches Smallvile...she practically has a wing named after her).

As for Lex's motivation, it's a contest with Clark. He wants to win/take everything Clark has. It's not about Lex being desperately in love with Lana. It's about winning.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
He can't now that the doctor knows about it........

Well, he could be a total scumbag & sell the idea that she took those drugs to fake a pregnancy so she could marry a billionaire and have all that money (when the truth is if the pregnancy was faked, it was because he wanted to trap Lana). The thing is, who would believe Lana?

Even the doctor's tone sounded like he thought Lana was a golddigger. I wouldn't be surprised if they do this. It would actually be great and will continue to show that Lex is one bad SOB.


Originally posted by BWOracle
Why do we always over-think these things?

The baby was fake. The doctor is not on Lex's payroll. Lex didn't expect Lana to end up in the hospital (obviously Lex never watches Smallvile...she practically has a wing named after her).

As for Lex's motivation, it's a contest with Clark. He wants to win/take everything Clark has. It's not about Lex being desperately in love with Lana. It's about winning.

I know the doctor wasn't on his payroll. As a matter of fact, as soon as I saw Clark take Lana to the hospital, I said "Oh sh*t, Lana's finally gonna have a doctor who wasn't paid by Lex".

But that doesn't mean there isn't a baby (I would be happier if there is none). That picture of the baby he burned could be of a baby he plans to use as a meteor experiment and removed it from Lana while slipping her the drugs to make it seem like a fake pregnancy later on.

But I'm hoping that you're right and there was never a baby. The only reason that would bother me is why he would be that motivated to get Lana (and win the contest) when so many things slipped through his fingers in doing so (33.1, the blackbox from the ship, Titan, everything else he had to disassociate himself from to prevent Lana from finding out what he's all about). He would be a disgrace to the Luthor name after sacrificing all that just to get someone who Clark had.

[SmallvilleMan]

Well, he could be a total scumbag & sell the idea that she took those drugs to fake a pregnancy so she could marry a billionaire and have all that money (when the truth is if the pregnancy was faked, it was because he wanted to trap Lana). The thing is, who would believe Lana?

The guy with the power to free her;) I can see it now:

Clark: "I'll trade you me for her"

Or he would just break her out.

[richard9820]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, he could be a total scumbag & sell the idea that she took those drugs to fake a pregnancy so she could marry a billionaire and have all that money (when the truth is if the pregnancy was faked, it was because he wanted to trap Lana). The thing is, who would believe Lana?

Even the doctor's tone sounded like he thought Lana was a golddigger. I wouldn't be surprised if they do this. It would actually be great and will continue to show that Lex is one bad SOB.



I know the doctor wasn't on his payroll. As a matter of fact, as soon as I saw Clark take Lana to the hospital, I said "Oh sh*t, Lana's finally gonna have a doctor who wasn't paid by Lex".

But that doesn't mean there isn't a baby (I would be happier if there is none). That picture of the baby he burned could be of a baby he plans to use as a meteor experiment and removed it from Lana while slipping her the drugs to make it seem like a fake pregnancy later on.

But I'm hoping that you're right and there was never a baby. The only reason that would bother me is why he would be that motivated to get Lana (and win the contest) when so many things slipped through his fingers in doing so (33.1, the blackbox from the ship, Titan, everything else he had to disassociate himself from to prevent Lana from finding out what he's all about). He would be a disgrace to the Luthor name after sacrificing all that just to get someone who Clark had. its impossible to keep a 12 week fetus alive outside the womb. there was no baby

[uhhuhhim]

He knew it was the only way to keep her in his life.

She knows now...Lexana is over! :)

[msleggie]

I found it hilarious when the doctor thought that Lana was the one who faked the pregnancy in order to marry Lex. When it was really the other way around, I laughed so hard when I saw that scene. I'm just glad that Lana finally knows what Lex did.

[BWOracle]

Many like to bring up the picture of the baby as proof that it existed. Sorry but all they needed was a picture of any woman's sonogram. They all look like prunes that early in their development.

As far as burning the photograph by Lex. He was just burning every file he could get on Lana's pregancy.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by richard9820
its impossible to keep a 12 week fetus alive outside the womb. there was no baby

From Fallout (when she started having cravings) to Combat was way more than 12 weeks. Fallout took place 6 weeks after Zod. So I would put it around July. If he removed it from her in Combat and since Combat has been slipping her the drug that the doctor found in her system, it would be possible for it to happen.

But seeing that she showed no physical sign of being pregnant, I would have to say it was all a sham.


Originally posted by msleggie
I found it hilarious when the doctor thought that Lana was the one who faked the pregnancy in order to marry Lex. When it was really the other way around, I laughed so hard when I saw that scene. I'm just glad that Lana finally knows what Lex did.

It would be cool if Lex promotes the idea that the doctor had (that she was a golddigger instead of it being the other way around, with him making her think she was pregnant to fool her).

[uhhuhhim]

Personally, I don't think she's dumb enough to believe that the doctor had faked the pregnancy, not Lex. Why would the doctor have done that anyway? It's not like he's a close close friend of Lex's, he would have no reason to do it by himself. Lex is smart enough to know that some women are out to get his money, so it doesn't make sense to me.

[xrayvision]

I remember starting a thread about this in the Speculation forum:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65783

The one thing that doesn't make sense if it was all faked out by Lex is his reaction to Lana talking about it (not knowing that he was in the room) in Static. Lex knew that Lana couldn't see her, so why did he act surprised if there was no baby to begin with? This could be a plothole like how Jason showed resentment towards Genevieve even in private while later on they were revealed to have been working together all along.

[J'onn J'onzz]

Originally posted by xrayvision
The one thing that doesn't make sense if it was all faked out by Lex is his reaction to Lana talking about it (not knowing that he was in the room) in Static. Lex knew that Lana couldn't see her, so why did he act surprised if there was no baby to begin with?

Oh my... That means it's Lionel who drugged her without Lex knowing... at least at that point...

[SecretzNLyz15]

Static just doesn't fit in with the rest of the season..I don't take anything except Lex's walk at the end seriously. That ep had characters turning 180s like crazy.

[Seryna]

Originally posted by avidreader
I definitely think Lex is pathetic enough to drug Lana into thinking she was pregnant. Lex would do anything to get one up on Clark. He thinks he's won the game, but as Clark said, "he doesnt even know the rules".

I also thought that something was fishy about this baby due to Lex's obsession with it.

Originally I thought that he used Kryptonite experiments from his 33.1 research as conception aides- although the blood of Chlark's used to impregnate Lana that i saw earlier would also be quite the twist.

Obviously, it was a major secret if he killed the doctor to prevent Lana from discovering the truth. I don't trust any doctor Lana goes to- likely on Lex's payroll or being extorted to do his will.

Time to find an honorable dr to get the truth.


Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Course there ws never a baby, that's why Lex destroyed all the evidence.....Why else would he?

I assumed that he said the baby was miscarried and burned evidence of a birth, keeping the baby's continued existance a secret.

It was my boyfriend who prompted that thought- that a Kryptonite induced baby might be heartier and able to live outside the womb earlier.

How far along was Lana, anyway? I thought it was about 6 weeks- due to her stick figure - which throughs a hole in my 'baby still alive' theory.

[Peat Moss]

quote:Why do we always over-think these things?

Because we hope for a better show ;)

quote:its impossible to keep a 12 week fetus alive outside the womb. there was no baby

What part of science FICTION do you not understand? Enough technology can do anything you want, no matter how impossible in real life.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Lionel knows what's going on, even he thought it was pathetic what Lex was doing, that should explain it all.

[angellwings]

I like the idea of their being no baby, and I hope Lana finds her own way out of it. I'm sick of Clana to be honest. I want Lana to grow up and save herself from something for once.

Although I doubt that will happen because the show seems to thrive on the Damsel in Distress vibe. I actually think my favorite episode this season was when Chloe and Lana took care of Linda Lake themselves (or Chloe took care of Lake actually).

I'm not a big Lana fan period, and I actually like that they hooked her up with Lex. I figured it was the fastest way to get Clark over her since he hates Lex with a passion, and her being with him would ruin things between them.

BUT of course they play up the manipulation thing and keep Clark hung up on her.

So sorry, I've gone a rant. I'll stop now.

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

Lana's pregnancy never existed? What? Are you kidding me? Am I being punked?

For real I didn't see that coming. I think that is such a lame way to go if that is where they're going with this. I'm hoping that the drugs are a cover up...Lex leaving no loose ends...and the baby is somewhere being grown in a tube.

She wasn't getting any bigger or going to the classes would-be moms usually go to when they're pregnant. She wasn't having like half the symptoms pregnant women have...just the sickness...or at least from what they've showed. A genetically altered baby would have been a better story than her never being pregnant.

Poo to this twist.

[margroks]

Probably she was never pregnant although frankly, I don't care about anything that happens to Lana. SHe asked for this and got what she deserved by running to Lex, the back-up BF and she is not a martyr, no matter what ridiculous and totally unsupported by show canon, retconning they did in Promise. Now, all I care about is seeing her underhanded behavior come to light so everyone around her realized what an awful person she has always been. Otherwise, I'd just like her to disappear. She's just like this in the comics and I never cared for her there either.

[Liriel]

Originally posted by cmm
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH biggest cop out EVER!!!! Agreed.

[blaze88]

Originally posted by BWOracle
Why do we always over-think these things?

The baby was fake. The doctor is not on Lex's payroll. Lex didn't expect Lana to end up in the hospital (obviously Lex never watches Smallvile...she practically has a wing named after her).

As for Lex's motivation, it's a contest with Clark. He wants to win/take everything Clark has. It's not about Lex being desperately in love with Lana. It's about winning.

Completely Agree everyone is trying to make this storyline way too complicated..... AlMiles don't come up with such elaborate and complex schemes. Fake baby is already too much for them I think lol. They don't have time to workout some insane "the baby is in some hidden 33.1 meteor freak lab" storyline that would be dumb. Theres only a few episodes left in this season and Lex will be trying to kill Lana in the season finale I think so this baby storyline is done...... now its just about how Lana is gonna try to get away from Lex.

[dru-zod2501]

Cheers to all you guys who knew the deal with the fake baby! I'll admit I was wrong this time. Hopefully I'll be vindicated later with some unforseeable plot twist.
Lex now takes the gold for most pathetic villain plot ever, but i guess you gotta take the baby steps (no pun intended) before you reach true megalomania
YOU SUCK LEX!!


Originally posted by richard9820
its impossible to keep a 12 week fetus alive outside the womb. there was no baby

right, just like it's impossible to get superpowers from meteorites

[Pirate515]

Originally posted by Kid Collins
You heard it wrong. The doctor implied that Lex faked the pregnancy so Lana could marry the billionaire. No, the doctor actually accused Lana of faking her pregnancy so that she could trick Lex into marrying her. It is fairly logical that a doctor would come to this conclusion: Lana is a small town girl who just married a multi-billionaire, and after talking about miscarriage after being admitted to the hospital, the doctor finds no traces of a past pregnancy, but finds traces of drugs used to fake pregnancy. Given the above, what else is he supposed to think?

Of course, Lana was baffled when she found out that she was never pregnant. It makes perfect sense now, Lex paid his doctor to show Lana fake ultrasound and test results, and when the doctor threatened to come clean about what he was really doing, Lex killed him. Then the next Lex-affiliated doctor drew up some phony paperwork to document a miscarriage. Finally, when by accident Lana ended up in a hospital and was seen by an independent doctor, he pointed out the truth.

[Krpyto]

I truly think the baby is going to be a Bizzaro type freak.

Lana didn't carry it, but something is up. Remember the baby who grew up real fast and died? Lex had the research on that and said he would release it someday, but obviously had other plans for it. Using Clark's blood to make a bizarro super freak and accelerating its growth will work but like many failed Lexcorp experiments with Meteor rocks it will have grave Frankenstein like consequences.

This is actually a very good way to bring about Bizarro, while keepgin everyone second guessing.

If that is the case then it was very well thought out by the writers.

If not then it was a lame ploy.

[blaze88]

Sounds like you're more talking about bizarro than Lana's baby, but yea Lex could definitely be involved in the bizarro thing with all sorts of his experiments.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

HAHAAHAHAHA! The whole "he gave you pills" story line cracked me up so much! I was laughing so hard that I had tears coming out of my eyes and I couldn't stop...I mean, I knew that the baby wasn't real, but it was even funnier because there was a clana fic on k-site where Lex did almost the same thing to Lana. He gave her tea instead of "prenatal vitamins."

[Bookwrm17]

Originally posted by xrayvision
The one thing that doesn't make sense if it was all faked out by Lex is his reaction to Lana talking about it (not knowing that he was in the room) in Static. Lex knew that Lana couldn't see her, so why did he act surprised if there was no baby to begin with? This could be a plothole like how Jason showed resentment towards Genevieve even in private while later on they were revealed to have been working together all along.

I thought of the same thing, which is making me think it was Lionel who drugged Lana, not Lex. Given that he threatened to kill Clark if Lana didn't marry Lex, it would kind of make sense for Lionel to have faked her pregnancy to get her to agree to his proposal in the first place. But he must have let Lex in on the scheme at some point.

I still think the "fake pregnancy" is lame, though.

[All about Clark]

In Promise, Lionel told Lex he knew about the baby issue. So it was Lex's doing, not Lionel's. Lex did it to keep Lana from going back to Clark, and Lionel did what he did because he saw how far Lex would go and knew Lex would lose it if he lost her. Lionel is just trying to keep Lex from going nuts.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Static was totally out of context from the rest of the series.

[Heilige]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
Static was totally out of context from the rest of the series.


How so?


Originally posted by xrayvision
Well, he could be a total scumbag & sell the idea that she took those drugs to fake a pregnancy so she could marry a billionaire and have all that money (when the truth is if the pregnancy was faked, it was because he wanted to trap Lana). The thing is, who would believe Lana?

Even the doctor's tone sounded like he thought Lana was a golddigger. I wouldn't be surprised if they do this. It would actually be great and will continue to show that Lex is one bad SOB.



I know the doctor wasn't on his payroll. As a matter of fact, as soon as I saw Clark take Lana to the hospital, I said "Oh sh*t, Lana's finally gonna have a doctor who wasn't paid by Lex".

But that doesn't mean there isn't a baby (I would be happier if there is none). That picture of the baby he burned could be of a baby he plans to use as a meteor experiment and removed it from Lana while slipping her the drugs to make it seem like a fake pregnancy later on.

But I'm hoping that you're right and there was never a baby. The only reason that would bother me is why he would be that motivated to get Lana (and win the contest) when so many things slipped through his fingers in doing so (33.1, the blackbox from the ship, Titan, everything else he had to disassociate himself from to prevent Lana from finding out what he's all about). He would be a disgrace to the Luthor name after sacrificing all that just to get someone who Clark had.

xrayvision,

You don't think Lex loves Lana? Remember, he was willing to give uo LuthorCorp and 33.1 for her. That has to be love. It goes way beyond a contest with Clark. Also him saying he doesn't know what his life would be like without her.

Also, what if Lana told Lex she is leaving him AND at the same time she doesn't want to be with Clark either. How would Lex react? That would really prove if it was a contest or not. Though I don't think it is. He loves her in his sick way with the fact he was willing to give up LuthorCorp and 33.1 and the black box.

[superhippie2000]

i guess i was wrong about the baby when i posted before. who would have thought the baby plot would be explianed in this episode. i thought they would have waited for the finale to drop that one.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Bookwrm17
I thought of the same thing, which is making me think it was Lionel who drugged Lana, not Lex. Given that he threatened to kill Clark if Lana didn't marry Lex, it would kind of make sense for Lionel to have faked her pregnancy to get her to agree to his proposal in the first place. But he must have let Lex in on the scheme at some point.

I still think the "fake pregnancy" is lame, though.

You made me think of something interesting now. What if Lionel did something to actually make Lana pregnant (slip some drugs in her or mess around with her birth control) for the reason of keeping Lex occupied with Lana and the possibility of a family? This could be his way of distracting Lex from finding out what he is up to (which must be huge, since it involved power & Kryptonian symbols). Instead of letting Lex in on how his intervention led to Lana getting pregnant, Lex would instead have found out from Lana (she didn't know he was in the room) in Static. Then Lex goes along with the fact that she is pregnant and is happy because this helps him secure her, only to have his own plan in removing the baby after the wedding so he can use it for his own devious plans. This would be a complicated plot, but would explain pretty much everything, including his reaction in Static.

[LaraofKrypton]

Next week should be interesting! Lana finding out her pregnancy was a fake also explains how happy she looks with Clark in the preview trailer.
I'm wondering what Lex will come up with to try and "explain"...he has to have a back up plan. Of course, he burned all the evidence, and the doctor is conveniently dead, maybe he will try to say the doctor made them both believe she was pregnant? He could claim that he was trying to blackmail them and died before he got the chance.
Yeah, I do think the fake baby was kind of a lame plot, but hey, I still love Smallville.
And that's all I have to say about that. :D

[SpeedDemon77]

It's true...there was no baby.

And maybe Lex won't have to explain anything to Lana....yet.
She's going to keep this to herself....and she'll start finding out bit by bit the other things he's done all along. She's going to save it all until that one crucial moment when she gets to tell him she knows everything, that she still loves Clark and only married him because Lionel forced her into it and he can go straight to hell.

Can't wait to see Lex get his a$$ ripped. :)

[boingo]

^ I hope so...or at least the chance for her to let Lex "have it" verbally

I am glad Lana knows about the "fake" pregnancy ...I disliked this pregnancy storyline from the start so I am glad that it seems to be coming to an end...Other than showing the depth of Lex's evil (which could have be shown in other ways imo) I still don't see how this pregnancy plot was really necessary...eh, too late now.


Originally posted by margroks
SHe asked for this and got what she deserved by running to Lex, the back-up BF....


I am sorry but Lana did not ask to be injected with synthetic hormones in order to fake a pregnancy....she did not ask to believe in a pregnancy and then go through the horrible pain of a miscarriage....she did not ask to go through the very emotional and painful ordeal of losing a child only to find out it was all a lie.

She believed in Lex and never EVER thought he would be capable of something like this...heck, many fans up until a few seasons ago still believed there was "good" in Lex (was not yet considered a full blown evil villain) < some still don't.

So, I disagree in that Lana "asked for it" and she definately did not "deserve" to go through all of this heartache and pain.



Now, all I care about is seeing her underhanded behavior come to light so everyone around her realized what an awful person she has always been. ....

What "underhanded behavior" are you referring to that would make "everyone around her" come to that realization?

[MozartRequiem]

"She believed in Lex and never EVER thought he would be capable of something like this...heck, many fans up until a few seasons ago still believed there was "good" in Lex (was not yet considered a full blown evil villain) < some still don't.

So, I disagree in that Lana "asked for it" and she definately did not "deserve" to go through all of this heartache and pain. "

I agree with what you're saying. However, Lana should hold some blame, since everyone around her told her what bad news Lex is. The two friends who have always been there for her and never wavered their loyalty to her were Clark and Chloe, and those two continued to warn her that Lex is not the man he seems. She ignored those warnings and was not grateful to them for trying to help. So I do think she holds some blame, but all in all, she's still a pretty good person, and does not deserve the psychological torture she's going through right now.

As for Lex, there WAS still good in him a few seasons ago. He was a good guy for the first few seasons. That's what makes his story so tragic. He wasn't always this bad, but tried hard to fight against it.

[mrs. luther]

ok one thing i don't get is if the baby was fake then why did he cry when he was burning the files of lana's pragnancy ??

[Kid Collins]

Originally posted by mrs. luther
ok one thing i don't get is if the baby was fake then why did he cry when he was burning the files of lana's pragnancy ??

Because he knew that what he did hurt Lana and that his plan basically backfired.

Instead of Lana getting closer to him because of their shared loss of the baby, Lana withdrew from him even further.

[Ania]

Or becauese being with Lana makes you a total wuss in no time without a good reason.

[msleggie]

Who knows what Lex did, personally I think he faked the whole thing. How could he get a baby out of Lana without her knowing it. Now I can see him drugging her, but taking a baby, come on! If that's what really happened, they might have a hard time explaining how he did it.

[SupeK]

Lex = billionaire, sexy, smart. Why would he have to manipulate someone into marrying him? I think he did fake her pregnancy, but not for that reason.

I think he cooked up a Clark/Lex/Lana baby in the lab and was going to present it to Lana as their natural kid. If things were done right, Lana would have grown a stomach and then after 9 months, Lex could have knocked her unconscious and woken her up saying, "we had to give you a cesarian, here's our baby." Sounds like a plan, huh?

[boingo]

Originally posted by MozartRequiem
I agree with what you're saying. However, Lana should hold some blame, since everyone around her told her what bad news Lex is...

There is a difference in placing blame on herself now in hindsight for getting romantically involved with the "wrong guy" (Lex) to "asking for it" and being desrving of a punishment so heinous like the one she was put through with this fake pregnancy.

Lana never would have imagined Lex capable of such a cruel deed...I don't think Clark, Chloe, or anyone for that matter would (some fans still don't)....
Lana (who has known Lex for many years....who has helped her many times in the past as a "friend" albeit a little too intrusive but always with the excuse that it was all done in her best interest...who displayed genuine love and care for her....to end up hurting her in such a manner.


The two friends who have always been there for her and never wavered their loyalty to her were Clark and Chloe...

Unfortunately, the same could be said for Lex in regards to Lana.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by mrs. luther
ok one thing i don't get is if the baby was fake then why did he cry when he was burning the files of lana's pragnancy ??

When did he cry? What I saw was a very evil, disturbing look on his face as he burned the evidence.

[Peat Moss]

Originally posted by xrayvision
You made me think of something interesting now. What if Lionel did something to actually make Lana pregnant (slip some drugs in her or mess around with her birth control) for the reason of keeping Lex occupied with Lana and the possibility of a family? This could be his way of distracting Lex from finding out what he is up to (which must be huge, since it involved power & Kryptonian symbols). Instead of letting Lex in on how his intervention led to Lana getting pregnant, Lex would instead have found out from Lana (she didn't know he was in the room) in Static. Then Lex goes along with the fact that she is pregnant and is happy because this helps him secure her, only to have his own plan in removing the baby after the wedding so he can use it for his own devious plans. This would be a complicated plot, but would explain pretty much everything, including his reaction in Static.

I don't think it's really possible that anyone but Lex planned this, since he corresponded with the doctor about it and it was strongly implied that Lex was in charge.

[xrayvision]

Yeah. As I said, what I posted before was too complex for them to use, though I think Milton Fine's plan B to bring back Zod was much more complex.

[SpeedDemon77]

I seriously don't get this idea that Lana "got what she deserved" with Lex. That's like saying when a woman has been manipulated by and trusted in a man who was abusive without her knowledge beforehand....and then winds up getting beaten half to death or killed by him once they're together, then she got what she deserved?

Seriously....WTF is with that kind of thinking? :\

And don't give me the "she was warned about him" nonsense again. Anyone can be warned about someone before forming a relationship with them. How does the basis for that warning mean anything to you unless you've personally experienced something that gives you a good reason to heed the warning?

In Lana's case Clark only told her to be careful of Lex. Okay, so yeah....maybe that should have given her pause, but that was coming from an ex-boyfriend who'd obviously had a falling out with Lex before Lana got involved with him. For all she knew Clark could have been speaking purely out of jealousy or bitterness toward Lex, even though we know he wasn't. As for Chloe warning her, one day she says Lex is a predator and the next she's all about advising Lana to take her chances with him romantically. Why should Lana have taken anything Chloe warned her about Lex as being serious if Chloe couldn't even stick with a consistent "he's a b*stard....stay away from him" train of thought herself?

If a friend of mine was warning me about some girl he considered "bad news" one minute and then suddenly went all supportive of my relationship with her and even agreed to be the best man at my wedding once I decided to marry her, I doubt I would take his so-called warnings about her seriously either.

[Peat Moss]

Well, it would have been nice if Lana would have given Clark the benefit of the doubt and not automatically assumed the was jealous. As Clark said in the episode with the Cloner, "You give him all the latitude in the world, but I am just immediately dismissed" (paraphrased) While Lana is willing to trust whatever meteor freak comes along, she assumes Clark is jealous by default any time he tries to warn her.

[foreversmallville]

I have a rather simple question. If Lana was never pregnant...than who's baby was the ultra-sound image that Lex was burning in his fireplace?

Could Helen have been pregnant and Lex never knew until he sort of got rid of her. Later Helen's doctor gave the pregnancy evidence to Lex.

Just wondering...if perhaps there might be some added twists, or if Lana never being pregnant is the best we viewers are going to get out of that awful storyline.

[TheDonMike]

it was probably just a no name baby...knowing how strong continuity is on the show im sure we will never hear about this again..

[StrangeVisitor1979]

Well that blows, doesn't it? here we though Lana's child was some kind of experimental genetic experiment, and now we find out he doctored the sonogram and caused her to believe she was pregnant through synthetic hormones. Well at least he hasn't crossed the moral line THAT much, right? But it's still dispicable. Hell, it's LUTHOR! It makes perfect sense, using the pregnancy as a catalyst in her decision to marry Lex. He set it up perfectly. The Master Manipulator. Lex better watch out.

[joadan]

"Oh! Lana was never pregnant! Oh! There's no baby-experiment either!" Pleeease people. I was just waiting for that. How could you guys not see that one coming? It was OBVIOUS since the beginning tha Lana wasn't pregnant. Despite all the hate you people seem to have for Lana on this site/forum, it has always been clear that the writers (Clana lovers, by the way) wouldn't destroy the purety of her character and the relationship they've been developing and building up with Clark for YEARS, the heart* of the show, on a pregnancy with the villain of the series! And yes, as lame as it may be, this hole plot line was just to make Lana (and us) realize how low Lex would go just to win her and keep the one pure thing he's ever had in his life that hasn't been shattered. By the way, I do believe he loves her, in his own sick and twisted way.
"If the baby was a fake, why was he cryng by the fireside?", one might wonder. Pretty simple: he was realizing how pathetic and lonesome he was. Crying for himself. No tears for other persons. The TRUE (an lame) villain.
ps.: Yes, I think that Static scene with Lex will never be explained....= plothole

*yes I'm clana all the way, and I do think Clark and Lana will someday be complety happy and secrets-free. It won't last, we all know that. We know that his future is in Metropolis with Lois. But it will happen. The writers own us that much. And for those who though that Clana was dead, or don't like it... come on! Do you even watch the show? They are the MAIN couple, for God's sake! Smallville is all about the beginning, BEFORE Lois. That why Lana is so damm important in this show, as annoying as she can be. I must recognize that the whole thing has taken way too long and her character and their relationship are completely worn out, but for those who doesn't like it... change the channel. I love Tom and Kristin on screen.

[msleggie]

Originally posted by Hibiscus
The pregnancy was fake. All gloves against Lex are off.

It's about time! That silly Lana finally sees Lex for what he is and she see's what she could have had with Clark! I just hope that Lana brings it when the time comes for her to confront Lex.

[AngelaV]

Lex is freaky! Using Lana as a shield.
Clark would love to go after Lex BUT as Chole pointed out Lana is in the way. Lex makes Lana thinks she's pregnant so she will marry him. Almost backfires until daddy dearest threatens Clark's life.
As long as Lex has Lana with him, Clark won't do anything to Lex. Sneaky little frizzlefazzal!

[fortress7081]

yeah Tom and Kristin on screen!They rock!!!

[Elite]

Originally posted by AngelaV
Clark would love to go after Lex BUT as Chole pointed out Lana is in the way.

i dont get what Clark can do to Lex by "going after him" :confused:

Doubt itll involve physical violence
That just leaves talking, and Lex usually wins the war of words

[Peat Moss]

quote--Despite all the hate you people seem to have for Lana on this site/forum, it has always been clear that the writers (Clana lovers, by the way) wouldn't destroy the purety of her character and the relationship they've been developing and building up with Clark for YEARS, the heart* of the show, on a pregnancy with the villain of the series!

How does not having a baby keep her purity intact more than having it? She obviously COULD have gotten pregnant with Lex, or she would have been more surprised. She's been living with Lex for months! Lana is not kept pure just by not having a child when we already know she's been sleeping around with Clark and Lex.

[kismet]

I'm still amazed so many people were surprised by this plot.


Originally posted by Peat Moss
quote--

How does not having a baby keep her purity intact more than having it? She obviously COULD have gotten pregnant with Lex, or she would have been more surprised. She's been living with Lex for months! Lana is not kept pure just by not having a child when we already know she's been sleeping around with Clark and Lex.

For the record she only slept with Clark once. I'm assuming Lex as well. It could be assumed more but I hate making assumptions especially on this show.

[zadidoll]

Originally posted by richard9820
its impossible to keep a 12 week fetus alive outside the womb. there was no baby

Well, that's fiction for you. On the ABC soap, All My Children, the rewrote (in the last few years) an abortion storyline (originally happened in the 1970s) as never really happening.

The story was that Erika Kane had an abortion in the 1970s (after it became legal). She went YEARS knowing she had an abortion until recent years (and rewrites) have her having HAD the abortion BUT the aborted fetus was removed by the doctor and implanted into the doctor's wife thus the fetus was able to grow in the new body, be born and come back as a grown man to find his biological mother.

It can't occur in real life. A fetus cannot be transplanted from one body into another and yet we're expected to believe that 30 years ago it happened and it is possible.

So it could be that the writers are borrowing from daytime tv. It would be ashamed if it did turn out that Lana WAS pregnant and the fetus was stolen from her body and transplanted somewhere or into someone else to grow and be born.

[Djonn]

My problem with the "wholly fake pregnancy" theories is that they don't square very well with the fact that Lex clearly does love Lana -- and also, pretty clearly, loves the idea of sharing a child with Lana. He might plausibly maneuver Lana into a genuine pregnancy, but not a phantom one; the only possible result of an entirely false pregnancy is to hurt Lana, and that's not something Lex is likely to do willingly.

That said, I agree with some of the comments upstream that most of the "surrogate baby" and "mutant/superbaby" theories are overcomplicated and impractical.

So what really happened? Here's my theory:

Lana really was pregnant at first, but she miscarried very early on, perhaps in the wake of one or another of her earlier medical adventures. Lex learned of this before Lana did....

....and was (a) devastated, and (b) fearful that Lana would react to losing the baby by blaming him and/or leaving him. So he bribed Dr. Langston to dose Lana with hormones and conceal the fact of the miscarriage "for her own good" (Lex being a master of rationalization). In emotional panic mode, Lex is so afraid of telling Lana their baby is gone -- because in his eyes it will hurt her and weaken her ties to him -- that he does everything possible to postpone the inevitable.

This fits all the available facts. It explains why Lex treats the pregnancy and the baby as real earlier in the season -- because initially, it was real, and because he desperately wishes it still was. It's consistent with Lex's established feelings toward Lana. And it avoids surplus complexity -- no need for surrogate babies or covert surgery.

It may well not be what the writers had in mind, but it makes more sense than anything else I can come up with.

[joadan]

quote

quote--Despite all the hate you people seem to have for Lana on this site/forum, it has always been clear that the writers (Clana lovers, by the way) wouldn't destroy the purety of her character and the relationship they've been developing and building up with Clark for YEARS, the heart* of the show, on a pregnancy with the villain of the series!

How does not having a baby keep her purity intact more than having it? She obviously COULD have gotten pregnant with Lex, or she would have been more surprised. She's been living with Lex for months! Lana is not kept pure just by not having a child when we already know she's been sleeping around with Clark and Lex.

end quote

I didn't mean purity as virginity, that's not what i mean... i meant purity of her character as a good person, someone with no "real" relation to the "dark side" of the show - the Luthors. That essentially good side of her would disappear if she was actually preagnant with Lex's baby (even if she had had an abortion), there would be no turning back for her and Clark, so... of course she was NOT preagnat!!!!