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superhippie2000
04-19-2007, 12:19 PM
Talk about tonights episode here.




I hope its a good episode tonight. im glad we get a chloe centric episode.

lillie_poo_pod
04-19-2007, 12:44 PM
I'm glad were getting a Chloe centric episode too.

Superman's Princess
04-19-2007, 12:49 PM
Me three. I love Chloe centric episodes.

MidgardDragon
04-19-2007, 01:54 PM
I betting on an 8 but hoping for a 10.

attitudejc
04-19-2007, 02:46 PM
*voted* oopss..maybe i should have waited till AFTER the episode :o

bball44j
04-19-2007, 05:50 PM
This episode will probably get a 8-10 score. That's what I expect for this episode, and I also love Chloe centric episodes.

bball44j
04-19-2007, 06:58 PM
Great Episode! We learned a lot of storyline stuff about the baby and Lex was really evil in this episode. 10 out of 10.

jimmyolsenblues
04-19-2007, 07:01 PM
I loved this episode . A 10.
superpowers.
mythology.
pain in chloe about her mom.
clark using his brain.
Erica Durance doing the christoperreeve commerical totally touched my heart.

svfan50
04-19-2007, 07:02 PM
It was totallllyyyy awesomeee!!!!!!! I loveee ittt!!!

Superman86
04-19-2007, 07:02 PM
I wasn't really impressed with this episode. I guess I just expected a bit more after all the damn waiting. Alls this episode shows is that Moira has some real mental problems to go with her meteor powers and that Lex has a backup plan for Lana and Chloe if they ever tried to turn on him.

smallvillefanforyears
04-19-2007, 07:03 PM
I was so surprised with the baby

Chlarkfan4eva
04-19-2007, 07:03 PM
Loved it!!! Definitely a 10.

xHerox
04-19-2007, 07:03 PM
I'm giving this episode an '8', although at first I wanted to give it a '7'. It had good Chloe moments, and I really liked the idea that her mom could control Krypto-freaks, but it just seemed a little forced. Still, I loved the Lana development and the whole part about why her mom left her (her hands and such).

I also thought one of the coolest parts of the episode is where the one freak went to Luthor mansion and found Lana there. The power that he used was awesome, and I would love to see a power like that developed on Smallville sometime. It just looked great.

So, overall, a pretty good episode but it's probably not going to be one I return to much.

ChlarkFan01
04-19-2007, 07:06 PM
LOVED IT!!!!!! In my Top 3 in best of the season:)

MidgardDragon
04-19-2007, 07:07 PM
While I've probably rated somewhat better episodes lower in the past, the episode gets a 10 and it deserves it. For anyone thinking that Chloe's meteor infection will not bring good storylines you've just been proven wrong in my opinion. Haven't seen a mediocre episode since before Hydro, this season's pulling out all the stops in the final stretch.

Ginx
04-19-2007, 07:07 PM
8 out of 10 - Really glad it focused on Chloe and showed a Clark that is a take-action kinda guy. Overall good episode. Evil Lex is back and loved Linda Carter being in the episode.

Lana baby disappointment - I'm still hoping for that the baby is in a test tube somewhere and that the horomones Lana was on were to develop the baby faster etc - but you never know - Lex might have pulled the baby card on Lana - very manipulative.

I really liked that Chloe didn't take any crap from Lex - back in the day she would have been a little afraid - these days it's more like Lex watch your back. Right on!

Overall good episode - but wanted a little more from it - I know it's the build up before the storm. But I wanted just a little more rain.

Kid Collins
04-19-2007, 07:08 PM
The best part was Lana finding out that Lex faked her pregnancy!!

What a loser! :lol:

bibi_sv___clana4ever
04-19-2007, 07:09 PM
loved it!!!....evil lex!!!:D

smallvillefanforyears
04-19-2007, 07:13 PM
I loved it 10 ! but am i the only one who now wished that lex died in the meteor shower.

MidgardDragon
04-19-2007, 07:14 PM
Highlights:

Clark superspeeding mid-sentence.

Clark getting the tape.

Moira controlling the kid to help them get out. I thought that sequence should've lasted a bit longer as I liked that kid.

Clark hesitating saving Lex. It begs the question did he just want Lex to have his life flash before his eyes or did Clark really have to decide to save him or not?

Moira and Chloe's touching moment at the end.

Lana finding out someone (she doesn't know for sure it was Lex yet, though I'm sure she strongly suspects it) faked her pregnancy.

Clark and Chloe's touching moment where he informs her he told her Mom all about her. Clark's "war is coming" line. He knows he's going to have to do something about Lex eventually. There's no chance of redeeming him anymore.

loistickyfingerz
04-19-2007, 07:21 PM
I thought it was good. It had a weak ending, but overall it was great EVIL Lex.

I wonder if they are making us worry about Chloe, like they are trying to make us believe she'll die, just so they can kill Lana instead and shock us all.

BeatlesRule
04-19-2007, 07:21 PM
I just gave it a 6. I don't know maybe I expected more from Wonder Woman! I did like the part where Lana found out about the faked pregnancy.

quietone
04-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Nice way to come back from hiatus. I gave the ep an 8.

Loved the Chlex showdown. So glad to see Chloe not back down.

Chlark vs Lex - can't wait.

Loved Lynda Carter!

I only care about the fake pregnancy in terms of Lex's motivation for the whole thing.

Clark telling Chloe's mom about Chloe was sweet and such wonderful friend thing to do. hugs Clark

The Kents got a new truck! Woohoo!

Mr.
04-19-2007, 07:30 PM
Gave it a 9... expected more action too. But it was compensated with the truth and those special effects.
And what made me even, happier and like this episode more was that they didnt kill her mom!! right? yah she is just mind gone right? lol now im not sure hehe
but yah overall a 9

onyx42
04-19-2007, 07:30 PM
This goes out to all of you TRUE Smallville Fans those that truly know the show and its characters, not the wannabe's that think they know.

Progeny was thus far one of the most painful episodes i've ever had to watch. I mean, why did they even have to give Chloe a kryptonite ability, it's...it's...GAHH!! They didn't even tell us what the ability was, it just made Chloe vulnerable to control by her mother (Lynda Carter).

Chloe's supposed to be the strong one without any kind of ability, but they went and did it anyway. I think it's made her weak...yeah sure she's still strong, but not like she used to be. I don't even think that this episode should have even been aired.

On a last note before I really lose my mind, I think that Clark should just give up this whole "I still love you Lana" thing, it's pathetic! I believe that Chloe and Clark should get together, they would make a great couple. I really hope that they do.

P.S. - I think Nemesis might not be as painful, it might actually be okay, but I really don't know. We'll just have to wait and see.

L8r, Scott.

Chrisluvstommy
04-19-2007, 07:31 PM
I was so stoked for a new episode it's almost a blur...I was hoping for a better hint at Chloe's special powers but this was definately a better episode..and Lex's decent into pure evil is sooo much fun to watch

Kara_Zor-El
04-19-2007, 07:32 PM
I agree about Lex. He was sooo evil...I loved it! And the thing with Lana....WOW!!! I want answers!! lol

spideyfan
04-19-2007, 07:35 PM
i thought it was decent...i give it an 8/10 for lex being a badass and some plot movement..

+1 for Lynda Carter too

Superman86
04-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by onyx42
On a last note before I really lose my mind, I think that Clark should just give up this whole "I still love you Lana" thing, it's pathetic! I believe that Chloe and Clark should get together, they would make a great couple. I really hope that they do.

hahaha lose your mind like Chloe's mom?

Markd329
04-19-2007, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Highlights:

Clark superspeeding mid-sentence.

Clark getting the tape.

Moira controlling the kid to help them get out. I thought that sequence should've lasted a bit longer as I liked that kid.

Clark hesitating saving Lex. It begs the question did he just want Lex to have his life flash before his eyes or did Clark really have to decide to save him or not?

Moira and Chloe's touching moment at the end.

Lana finding out someone (she doesn't know for sure it was Lex yet, though I'm sure she strongly suspects it) faked her pregnancy.

Clark and Chloe's touching moment where he informs her he told her Mom all about her. Clark's "war is coming" line. He knows he's going to have to do something about Lex eventually. There's no chance of redeeming him anymore.


My sentiments exactly!

Let's add another mention of our "offscreen buddy" Ollie as he once again helps out another person in need.

In concluding, this episode gets an 8.75 grade out of 10!

Insight
04-19-2007, 08:04 PM
This ep didn't really do anything for me. But I don't go ga ga over Chloe like a lot of people.
I'd give it a 6 out of 10, maybe 6.5. It just wasn't very interesting to me.

Superbeard
04-19-2007, 08:09 PM
Tonight's ep was lame.

Next week looks more promising.

CallMeClark
04-19-2007, 08:11 PM
We are SOOOOO back on a roll! Amazing episode. Way to segway into the rest of the season. So much Dark Lex. I loved it.

arkon476
04-19-2007, 08:17 PM
I didn't record it to watch later so I can't go back to verify, but when Moira ordered Chloe to escape I thought I saw the wall crack when she slammed the guard into it. That must have been a pretty powerful slam, wouldn't you say?

seraphim
04-19-2007, 08:22 PM
This episode was ok......nothing really moved me. I gave it a 6.

ClarkyBoy14
04-19-2007, 08:23 PM
10/10 This was a very good ep. SV has been very good lately. The baby development, Lex and Chloe, evil Lex, tons of superpowers, continuity, etc. Next week is going to be kick-ass as well.

OT: Is SN always that horrible? I haven't watched in a long time, and it was boring and fake. Jason is weird, Rory's ex-bf mumbles so badly that you can hardly understand him. I have no idea how that could be the "moment of the week."

kkjdt
04-19-2007, 08:25 PM
I really loved the episode.....
:D

BadToad
04-19-2007, 09:24 PM
Good, solid episode. Really moved the story along, and had some good character development.

Lex was disgustingly evil

Chloe was strong and determined

Lana was sympathetic (though disappointingly victimized again)

and I thought Clark was terrific.

And Lynda Carter did a solid job. :)

lillie_poo_pod
04-19-2007, 09:45 PM
I really really enjoyed this episode.

It's official. I hate Lex Luthor. AND I'M LOVIN IT! This is the Lex I want to see from now on. Screw the woobie, bring on the evil bastard.

I loved the last scene with LC and AM. I think they played well off of each other throughout the episode.

I loved that Clark was sweet to bring Mama S. up to date on Chloe. That was nice. I also loved that Chloe had to tell him TWICE to take Lana to the hospital. That was good.

Action!Chloe mindwhammied or not...WAS THA SH!T! I seriously LMAO when Chlark were watching the video @ the DP of Chloe punching the nurse or whatever. I thought that was funny.

And for the Chlex.... 3 scenes in one episode!! I LOVED IT! The DP scene was awesome. Shows that Chloe is not going to back down without a fight. I'm hoping for no more PodChloe this season!

Overall. Loved the episode.

BWOracle
04-19-2007, 10:49 PM
I give it a 9. We had good scenes for all the regulars that appeared (except Martha conveniently appearing to get the kryptonite away from Clark...they could have had Shelby do that).

Clark was intelligent and didn't require Chloe's guidance for every thing. I especially like the scene at the mental institution telling Chloe he'd take care of it...just wait for me. I like that he made sure that Moira knew about her daughter's accomplishments. I also like when he used his superspeed in the middle of their conversation in the field.

Clark's hesitation when saving Lex seemed a lot shorter than it appeared in the director's cut. But in the end, he did the right thing.

Chloe and Lex interaction was terrific. Lex showed menace and displayed control of the situation. AM's performance, especially when her mother was slipping into her catatonic state, was very well done. I also liked how forceful Chloe was with the gun on the meteor freak at the Luthor mansion (she's gotten a lot better with weapons since Zod).

As for Chloe using the kryptonite on Clark, she was under her mother's control and was doing whatever it took to leave Smallville and Clark was in the way.

I thought KK gave a good performance when Lana found out about the fake pregnancy and earlier when she told Clark she'll get through it like she always does.

The doctor definitely needs to work on his bedside manner. His automatic assumption that she was a gold digger trying to trap a billionaire was a bit sexist but probably appropriate to his character.

Linda Carter was effective but was a bit wooden in a some scenes.

Overall, a very good episode.

The real clark kent55
04-19-2007, 11:02 PM
yeah i liked it to but i am sick and was throwing up and i have no idea where her mom went to. did she die n if so how? or what the hell happend

shlyish
04-19-2007, 11:06 PM
I gave the episode an 8. I liked it a lot but the comercials always ruin it for me. And did any one else notice all the super speed and the special effects for it? I think they were trying to make up for the mistake in Promise.

MidgardDragon
04-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by onyx42
This goes out to all of you TRUE Smallville Fans those that truly know the show and its characters, not the wannabe's that think they know.

Ohhh that's right! If we don't agree with you we aren't true fans! How could I not realize this?!?

I've been with Smallville since the beginning and you can kindly stick a fork in your "true fans" crap, it's done.

BWOracle
04-19-2007, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by The real clark kent55
yeah i liked it to but i am sick and was throwing up and i have no idea where her mom went to. did she die n if so how? or what the hell happend

They mentioned in the scene where Moira goes catatonic that Oliver was going to keep her safe. I'm sure she was sent to a safer asylum where she could be treated.


Originally posted by shlyish
I gave the episode an 8. I liked it a lot but the comercials always ruin it for me. And did any one else notice all the super speed and the special effects for it? I think they were trying to make up for the mistake in Promise.

It wasn't a mistake in Promise. When the scene was replayed from the Lana perspective, we saw it how she saw it. Just like in the field scene in Progeny, Chloe only realizes that Clark has supersped after she seems him holding the button.

MidgardDragon
04-19-2007, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by shlyish
I gave the episode an 8. I liked it a lot but the comercials always ruin it for me. And did any one else notice all the super speed and the special effects for it? I think they were trying to make up for the mistake in Promise.

It's been how many weeks since Promise and you haven't figured out that wasn't a mistake? There was a lot of discussion on it and the conclusion is we saw Clark superspeed from Lana's point of view, which would look just like him disappearing. They even had the same non-effect in the recap. If it was a mistake they would've changed it or just left that part out of the recap.

All about Clark
04-19-2007, 11:20 PM
I thought it was a very solid ep and give it an 8.

Even though it was very good, it didn't WOW me, as I knew Lana's baby was a fake pregnancy.

The only part that really bothered me, is that Clark should have been able to toss the meteor rock or Chloe should have placed it where he wouldn't have the strength to move, such as the way Vengeance lady placed it under him, so I thought that was very lame.

Most everything else was very solid and it set the stage for the rest of the season.

shlyish
04-19-2007, 11:28 PM
Okay, okay... sorry the mistake was mine then.=(


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
It's been how many weeks since Promise and you haven't figured out that wasn't a mistake? There was a lot of discussion on it and the conclusion is we saw Clark superspeed from Lana's point of view, which would look just like him disappearing. They even had the same non-effect in the recap. If it was a mistake they would've changed it or just left that part out of the recap.

Okay, okay... sorry, the mistake was mine then :(

jack1487
04-19-2007, 11:29 PM
I gave it a 10 and though that it was a great episode. I liked the way in which used his super powers and the way he treated Chole's mom. Great going guys.

The real clark kent55
04-19-2007, 11:32 PM
but i caught the part of chloe crying if her mom went to a safer asslyum nd stuff like that then wouldnt chloe be happy her mom is safe and like yeah

BWOracle
04-19-2007, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by The real clark kent55
but i caught the part of chloe crying if her mom went to a safer asslyum nd stuff like that then wouldnt chloe be happy her mom is safe and like yeah

Chloe would still be depressed about her mom being catatonic.

InLove_with_Chloe
04-20-2007, 05:42 AM
I gave it a '5'.

It was OK, but..... I guess I am starting to loose interest.
- Clark looked like an idiot just standing around all the time. It would've been nice to see/hear his exchange with Moira, IMO.
- Chloe has to get a new haircut. I mean, seriously....
- Lex looked like fresh out of a toothpaste commercial. Less teeth bleaching, please!!!
- Lana is either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid.
- Where was Jimmy? Quite a boyfriend he is. He's never there when 'his girl' gets in trouble.
- Where was Lionel?!?


The Chlark got crapped on once again, IMO. These two just use each other at will, it appears. Who wants to see that?!?
:\

CallMeClark
04-20-2007, 06:01 AM
I liked the hair. :p

And I think the episode gained the momentum that we lost from "Combat." It set up the rest of the season. I enjoyed it a lot. And this episode shows that Allisom Mack deserved some kind of Award nomination. She was amazing.

superman2001
04-20-2007, 06:33 AM
I thought The Episode was Terrific, I really did enjoy Watching it, My Favorite Scene in The Episode is when Clark saved Lex, and Lex is looking around trying to figure out what happened, and I also thought The Scene in The Daily Planet, with Chloe talking to Lex was Great, I wonder how Chloe and Clark are going to stop Lex, I can't wait to find out, I can't wait to see Next Week's Episode it is going to be great.

DeesRyche
04-20-2007, 06:37 AM
Clana: -5
OOC Clark moment ("the war has begun" because he realizes Lex will do anything to spite him and that reliazation is driven by Lana. IMO, this quote seemed forced and OOC): -10
Chloe kickin' arse: +6
Lana being honest: +2
Evil and sexy Lex (digging the black and white outfit and the pearly whites): +5
Overall story: +4
Good use of guest star (LC): +5

Grand Total: 7

Detorio
04-20-2007, 06:47 AM
Loved it. It wasnt the best episode but it was pretty decent. It answered some questions that were buggin me over the recent weeks and yeh a solid 9 from me :D.

superpal1
04-20-2007, 06:51 AM
I gave it an 8. Clark is starting to use his powers a little more intelligently to figure out problems and find solutions.(lex's car, stealing the video at the asylum for Chloe). Lex was great. The whole hospital scene between Clark and Lana seemed forced. Good outcome to their talk, but the scene didn't play well for me.

Balauru
04-20-2007, 07:07 AM
Bad episode

Smallville dissapoint me lately

blaze88
04-20-2007, 07:13 AM
I gave it a 7. (was sorta leaning towards 6).

I found it odd that the last time i remember seeing Lex/Chloe together was when they were trying to find Lana in promise and they seemed fine then. The very quick switch to bitter enemies in this episode seemed kind of weird, but i guess that just shows how much of a front they were putting on in promise.

A lot of the scenes with Chloe and her mom seemed very odd and just didn't seem right. The storyline felt kinda rushed and just the way it was done I thought was pretty weak.

That scene with the Doctor and Lana seemed kinda weird with him accusing her of setting up the fake pregnancy to get married and whatnot, what a punk lol. I think she definitely knows if not strongly suspects Lex since obviously the other doctors conveniently didn't catch the drugging thing.

The bleeched teeth Lex was kinda funny lol. Lex was pretty good in this episode, but he's still far from Lionel. Lex has way less class and style and is more reckless still. He's got a long way to go if he wants to be the MB.

The episode as a whole just felt pretty weak, i'm just giving it a 7 because I didn't find it to be terrible either, but it felt kinda contrived and rushed.

Bring on Nemesis, thats the one i'm really waiting for this season.


The Chlark got crapped on once again, IMO. These two just use each other at will, it appears. Who wants to see that?!?

Yea i agree lots of the parts in this episode just made the Chlark relationship look bad. I recall the scene where Chloe is with her mom at the end and she is telling her that she will slip back into the catatonic state because she dosent' have the drug. Then Chloe says she will get it and that she has a lot of resources at her disposal or something and looks at Clark. I found that line very stupid and it annoyed me lol. Just the way this episode was done was bad..... it had more potential and could have been done better.

Jaded Wolf
04-20-2007, 07:14 AM
I thought this episode was great and it even made me like Lana once more as this tragedy befell upon her. Lex is a sadistic madman. I like how Clark at the end said, "It's only inevitable. A war is coming." Heck yeah!!! I feel bad for Chloe though. She can't get any breaks. If they kill her off I will be upset. All in all a great episode and I cannot wait until next week.

ddacosta81
04-20-2007, 07:22 AM
I think "Progeny" was a solid Chloe-centic episode. I'd give it a 7.

But if I remember Seasons 1 and 2 correctly, her accounts of her mom leaving didn't fit with the emotional flashback. Didn't she just wake up one morning to find her dad trying to make waffles; did her mom even say goodbye?

Maybe I'm missing something, but with the lack of continuity surrounding Mrs. Sullivans departure, the reunion of mother and daughter wasn't as powerful a scene as it could have been.

Plotholes aside, I liked the dynamic between Chloe and her mom. Their goodbye at the end was well done.

Clark really came through for Chloe in this episode. It was nice how he gave her mom the complete Chloe Sullivan bio.

I'd just like to know why Jimmy and Mr. Gabe Sullivan were missing from this episode. Their presence would have really helped.

shadow4486
04-20-2007, 08:33 AM
I enjoyed the episode and gave it an 8.

It wasn't one of my favorites but the chloe/Moira dynamic was well played and I loved Lynda Carter's portrayal. Great ending as she slipped back into catatonia (sp).

I liked how Clark used his powers. It seemed like for a moment he was gonna let Lex get hit by that Gas grenade, but knowing what it would do to Chloe, decided to save the Bald Baddie.

I figured the pregnancy was fake, seeing as how she never showed but for what reason, I can't wait to find out. The scene between Clark and Lana I could have done without, seeing as how most of the dialogue was said already in previous episodes. It was good to see Lana tell Clark she will get through this.

Chloe kicking Ass, maybe that's her power. She is like Niki/Jessica from Heroes. Loved Kick ass, take no prisoners Chloe. So Sexy!!!!

Overall it only advanced the Lana Pregnancy story line so I was left a little flat but I still liked it! I'm glad it's back.

ginnyfan
04-20-2007, 08:57 AM
I liked it. It was a good filler episode. Clark used most of his powers, a few more than once, we got to meet Chloe's mom. We got to meet EVIL SEXY Chloe. Lex was slimy and evil. Lana learned the truth about her pregnancy. It really whetted my appetite and made me anticipate the last few episodes of the season.

I expected a boring rehash of "Freak" but it wasn't. Yay! It was fun.

Samiosam
04-20-2007, 09:25 AM
I gave it a 10. I don't watch Smallville expecting for everything to be explained, for the acting not to be as great as the past episodes. I love Smallville and would rate and episode a 10 even if that episode doesn't deserve that high of a number.

I loved the scenes with Moira and Chloe, a great mother and daughter relationship (Even though the relationship didn't last that long) Good to know that Clark was there for Chloe and Lana.
It wasn't a bad episode (Sweet)

GooN
04-20-2007, 09:45 AM
wehaaaay, finally clark straps on a pair!

This was the sort of filler episode i was screaming for last season....the time for stopping random meteor freaks is over at last(i hope), now i want all fillers to be of this type...character development.
Nice cat and mouse goin on between Lex and chloeth, and an explanation for lana's pregnancy...well half explanation.

good ****.

7/10

naffles
04-20-2007, 10:08 AM
A six.

I was very disappointed with most of it (thirty seconds of Annette O'Toole! :( ; the script seemed a little weak; and Chloe was a meteor freak her whole life? How does that work?), but regardless, Lynda Carter kicked some serious butt acting-wise, as did Allison Mack. Loved the badassishness of Lex and Chloe.

*sings* Chloe's got a gun...

P.S.: Oh, and the bit after the credits with Erica Durance was really moving--a great promotion for a great cause.

P.S.S.: And the comic thing? Particularly loved the artist's rendition of Chloe, otherwise it was kind of a boring form of filler.

Fish1941
04-20-2007, 11:04 AM
After last night's episode, I've decided that I've had it with SMALLVILLE. I've had it. They've ruined the Lex/Lana relationship. Now we're back to the adolescent nonsence of Clark and Lana . . . only with some ridiculous "tragic" twist in which Lana is trapped in a marriage with Lex. I've ****ing had it.

Last night was the last time I will watch this show. No wonder Michael Rosenberg wants out.

kryptonaidxh
04-20-2007, 11:33 AM
Actually I liked it, but I because Lois didn´t appear, I don´t understand because Moira is her aunt, isn´t she? and she is Chloe´s closest relative after her mother, why she wasn´t there to help Chloe and support her? I think it was a mistake of writters.:)

svfan50
04-20-2007, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by kryptonaidxh
Actually I liked it, but I because Lois didn´t appear, I don´t understand because Moira is her aunt, isn´t she? and she is Chloe´s closest relative after her mother, why she wasn´t there to help Chloe and support her? I think it was a mistake of writters.:)

They have only a specific number of episodes for her...it would have been futile to waste an episode just for emotional support..!!!! IMO...

MidgardDragon
04-20-2007, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Fish1941
After last night's episode, I've decided that I've had it with SMALLVILLE. I've had it. They've ruined the Lex/Lana relationship. Now we're back to the adolescent nonsence of Clark and Lana . . . only with some ridiculous "tragic" twist in which Lana is trapped in a marriage with Lex. I've ****ing had it.

Last night was the last time I will watch this show. No wonder Michael Rosenberg wants out.

You're leaving, huh? Oh well, don't let the door hit you on the way out. More room for the rest of us. ;)

And if you're going to take someone's quote out of context and make it look like they dislike the show, at least get they're name right. Repeat after me, Rosenbaum.

Kryptonian-Ronin
04-20-2007, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Fish1941
After last night's episode, I've decided that I've had it with SMALLVILLE. I've had it. They've ruined the Lex/Lana relationship. Now we're back to the adolescent nonsence of Clark and Lana . . . only with some ridiculous "tragic" twist in which Lana is trapped in a marriage with Lex. I've ****ing had it.

Last night was the last time I will watch this show. No wonder Michael Rosenberg wants out.

Not sure what you mean, can you be more clear?

:D

Joelito
04-20-2007, 12:59 PM
6, the show was foo for a guest start as Lynda Carter

Kryptonian-Ronin
04-20-2007, 01:42 PM
If Chloe's mom would have pulled out the golden lasso and forced Lex to tell the truth, I would have given it a high score !

Higher if she wore the Wonder Womn suit...
Higher if she wore nothing but the Boots and Tiara !

:)

smallvillereporter27
04-20-2007, 01:51 PM
I liked the episode. The writers actually didn't screw up Chloe's mom storyline as much as I thought they would've. It still doesn't explain why her mom had blonde hair in Tomb, but brown hair now? Oh well...

The Lex and Chloe scene was great at the end. I was like FINALLY! There was some good stuff going on in this episode.

InLove_with_Chloe
04-20-2007, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Repeat after me, Rosenbaum.
:rotfl:
Berg = mountain.
Baum = tree.
Very different, actually....
;)

Son of Kal-El20
04-20-2007, 02:31 PM
I thought the episode was pretty good. Not the best but certanly good. I just wish they could make Lex act this way in the movies. He is actually very scary on Smallville. Which is cool. By the way, if Lex does indeed kill Chloe in the future, I bet Clark is going to throw him through a window.....or small table like he did in Splinter.

Anyway, I gove this episode a 8/10.

Heilige
04-20-2007, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by blaze88
I gave it a 7. (was sorta leaning towards 6).

I found it odd that the last time i remember seeing Lex/Chloe together was when they were trying to find Lana in promise and they seemed fine then. The very quick switch to bitter enemies in this episode seemed kind of weird, but i guess that just shows how much of a front they were putting on in promise.

A lot of the scenes with Chloe and her mom seemed very odd and just didn't seem right. The storyline felt kinda rushed and just the way it was done I thought was pretty weak.

That scene with the Doctor and Lana seemed kinda weird with him accusing her of setting up the fake pregnancy to get married and whatnot, what a punk lol. I think she definitely knows if not strongly suspects Lex since obviously the other doctors conveniently didn't catch the drugging thing.

The bleeched teeth Lex was kinda funny lol. Lex was pretty good in this episode, but he's still far from Lionel. Lex has way less class and style and is more reckless still. He's got a long way to go if he wants to be the MB.

The episode as a whole just felt pretty weak, i'm just giving it a 7 because I didn't find it to be terrible either, but it felt kinda contrived and rushed.

Bring on Nemesis, thats the one i'm really waiting for this season.



Yea i agree lots of the parts in this episode just made the Chlark relationship look bad. I recall the scene where Chloe is with her mom at the end and she is telling her that she will slip back into the catatonic state because she dosent' have the drug. Then Chloe says she will get it and that she has a lot of resources at her disposal or something and looks at Clark. I found that line very stupid and it annoyed me lol. Just the way this episode was done was bad..... it had more potential and could have been done better. [/B]

How does Lex still have way less class and style than Lionel? Can you please elaborate on that? How is he more reckless than Lionel?

Shadow116
04-20-2007, 06:30 PM
gotta give it a 7 it seemed to go by too fast and was a bit boring. And I must say still prefer the comic book versions of most characters just to get that off my chest again.
I hate SV Clark and Lana so much darn Al and Miles.

Anyway... now that thats over Lex is perfectly in character now :)

So bad. This is the Lex I've waited all series for this.

and Lex is the main reason for the 7 rating :D

RJLCyberPunk
04-20-2007, 07:58 PM
This was the best episode I've seen in this whole season and everything is unraveling now!
awesome!
Linda Carter was fantastic and she still looks great even after all this time!

Reign
04-20-2007, 11:30 PM
My gosh this script was bad.

skully
04-21-2007, 12:11 AM
A pretty good episode, if a little slow moving at times. I gave it an 8. Good bits included the great ongoing Chlark friendship and trust, Lana's discovery that she's been "had" (I assume she knows by Lex) all along regarding the pregnancy, Lex's excellent evilness, some cool superpower moments (superspeed mid-sentence was a hoot!!) and the Clex hesitation moment (and I disagree that that was a non-mythos moment - Clark is still yet to become the non-hesitating Superman).

Should set up some excellent Clex, Chlex, Lexana moments and ongoing Chlark in the next few episodes. Hell, there may even be some Clana!!! I am looking forward to seeing how Lana deals with Lex's deceit over the pregnancy.

artemis_x
04-21-2007, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Ginx
8
Lana baby disappointment - I'm still hoping for that the baby is in a test tube somewhere and that the horomones Lana was on were to develop the baby faster etc - but you never know - Lex might have pulled the baby card on Lana - very manipulative.



I totally love that a guy pulled the "baby card" on a girl. I think it's great, and totally subverts gender stereotypes. Total social statement. Brilliant! and it adds to lex's evilness and crazyness. Totally unexpected and brilliant.

samanta
04-21-2007, 07:01 AM
I gave it 8. There was no cotinuity with Moira and when she left Chloe for first time.

elroyofkrypton
04-21-2007, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by onyx42
Chloe's supposed to be the strong one without any kind of ability, but they went and did it anyway. I think it's made her weak...yeah sure she's still strong, but not like she used to be. I don't even think that this episode should have even been aired.

On a last note before I really lose my mind, I think that Clark should just give up this whole "I still love you Lana" thing, it's pathetic! I believe that Chloe and Clark should get together, they would make a great couple. I really hope that they do.

L8r, Scott.

First off, having Chloe develop meteor powers is a great plot twist. She's the one who is obsessed with the Weird, and now she is one of them. My prediction is that Chloe's character strengths make her ability a noble one.

And the Lana thing humanizes an awesomely powered alien. I think the show hasn't fleshed-out Lana enough, other than show us that when she runs off the Paris, she falls in love with the first rich creep that comes her way. I understand Clark's attraction to Lana. Think back to OBSCURA in the Season 1. Lana is absolutely adorable in that episode. What high school boy wouldn't be in love with such a lovely creature? Clark's fidelity to Lana is part of his character. It's part of what makes him Superman.

Anyway, from what I can see, Lana is one great kisser. Luscious lips.

sphrkilo
04-21-2007, 11:54 AM
I gave the episode a 5, since as others have already stated, I was not impressed. Wasn't the worst by any means, but also wasn't close to any of the best. I also was annoyed by Chloe's statement near the end about her resources. Just because her best friend has powers doesn't mean that she can use them to her illegal advantage. And we didn't exactly see a very good side of her mother. On the plus side, though, I'm glad that we finally learned something concrete about the baby. Can't say I was surprised since my second guess (after the baby being an alien) was that there was no baby. I'd like to see some more characters other than Clark, Chloe, Lana and Lex.

Lexgirl33
04-21-2007, 06:48 PM
I gave it a 5..nothing really special. The only things that always stand out is Clark using his powers..that never gets old.

kryptonaidxh
04-21-2007, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by svfan50
They have only a specific number of episodes for her...it would have been futile to waste an episode just for emotional support..!!!! IMO...

:) :o No actually was futile to waste another episode with Lana:o , we prefered to watch more of Lois, and it hasn´t been a waste because finally she is Chloe´s cousin!, you get it? and Moira is her aunt anyway.:p

tibbit78
04-21-2007, 08:36 PM
What did I think of Progeny?

1) I liked the part where Clark saves the life of Lex Luthor (his future enemy) from the bullet shot by Chloe. (It was very supermanly of Clark to save Lex --- even though he hesitated).

2) On the Lana & Clark scene, I wish that Lana would be honest with Clark about Lionel Luthor threatening her to marry Lex Luthor. (Lana keeps telling Clark to be honest with him, now it's time for her to be honest with Clark). Especially when Lana admitted to Clark, "I feel like I've lost so much... that having this baby would change things, but... now that it's gone, this isn't the life that I wanted."

3) The sad part that brought tears to my eyes was when Moira Sullivan (Chloe's mom) said to her daughter, Chloe, "Sweetheart... I'm slipping back," (into a coma). And then I cried hearing Clark say to Chloe, "Chloe, she doesn't have much time left." It was great to hear Moira say to Chloe, "Being with you again... is the greatest gift I could have ever been given," and I also liked "My little cub reporter." Of course, seeing Chloe Sullivan cry, made me cry.

4) I loved the Chloe & Clark scene:
It was heart-breaking to hear Chloe say, "She's never gonna read any of the articles I have written, you know, or meet Jimmy. She's never gonna get to know the person (voice breaking) that I've become."

Thank God Clark came to the rescue and said, "It's a good thing I told her. After I brought your mother to Oliver's apartment, I gave her the complete Chloe Sullivan bio. She was so proud, that's something no one can ever take away." That's the sweetest thing that Clark's ever said to his best friend, Chloe.

Then Chloe tells Clark that Lex came to see her and said, "Basically, he said it's either kill or be killed. The story or me." Clark asked, "Did he threaten you?" Chloe answered, "I'm in his cross hairs." Clark responded with, "Well, now he's in mine." Chloe told Clark to think about Lana. Chloe said, "We need to make sure Lana is safe, before we do anything to Lex."

This is my favorite part of the script. Tom Welling has the last lines and the best lines when he says (as Clark Kent):
"You're right. Lex would feed her to the lions just to spite me. But it's inevitable. The war's about to begin."

I loved this episode, even though it made me cry.

Insight
04-21-2007, 11:22 PM
I have been going through the DVD's the last few weeks and watched Ageless tonight. I have to say I liked that episode way more than this one.

STFanatic
04-22-2007, 08:00 PM
I gave it a seven.

Lynda Carter!

Clark using powers, though there were no footprints in the mud when he sped to Lex's car and back, if not fpptprint, a wind effect.
The hearing effect was great.

Lynda Carter!

Allison Mack emotes supurbly!

Lynda Carter!

Chloe kicking royal bootie!

Lynda Carter!

Lex oozing evil High, five Micheal Rosembaum!!

Lynda Carter!

Lana nover being with child :eek:

And to top it off, did I mention Lynda Carter?

Sweetie
04-23-2007, 07:46 AM
Very good episode!I gave it a 9.Lynda Carter was really good.Chloé always great as always.Evil Lex was wonderfull to watch,he is a bad ass!!!Clark was acting more like a guest star again on his own show.He should done more instead of falling on the floor with kryptonite on his pocket :lol:

Kryptonian-Ronin
04-23-2007, 08:44 AM
It was ok, I gave it a 6.

Not great but not terrible.
A bit of progression.
No real surprise.

redkrypclark
04-23-2007, 09:07 AM
i just love the whole hamlet like...to save lex or not to save lex scene. i also knew that lana wasnt pregnant that was my first hunch my second would be that lana was carrying the antichrist lol. i thought the episode was good not great 7 for me but im already giving nemeisis like a 10. which is starting to scare me a little because it has nothing to do but disappoint. i hope this episode wasnt rushed i hope they took their time for the story and give us one of the best episodes of the entire series.

p.s. i think they should have expanded that shooting scene a little. like have clark show a little more charcter like have him sit there smile a lil thinking about letting lex getting shot and then have him wipe the smile off and knock him out the way. i would have laughed so hard had something like that happened but i guess he would have to be on red k for something like that to happen.

Kryptonian-Ronin
04-23-2007, 09:24 AM
Even under RedK, he probably wouldl have saved Lex, he had many a chance to take Lex out while under redK and even then, he never did.

Jlvsclrk
04-23-2007, 09:44 AM
An 8 for me. On the down side, the pacing was sluggish and they held some establishing shots a little too long. I remember thinking as Clark was turning the truck around: Gee he's got a nice new truck, wonder what kind it is. And sure enough it turns into product placement. oh well, at least they spent the money on some nice FX.

On the plus side, loved the Chlark, every last second of it including the shocking moment she pulls the green K on him. I love that he's there for her at the beginning when she confesses her kryto-fear to him, and at the end when she's dealing with her loss. And his anger at Lex's threat to her is what makes him declare that the war (or perhaps "the never ending battle") is on. Yay! Now as long as they can have him help Lana out of her mess without slipping back into Clana mush, I'll be a happy camper.

Imzadia
04-24-2007, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
While I've probably rated somewhat better episodes lower in the past, the episode gets a 10 and it deserves it. For anyone thinking that Chloe's meteor infection will not bring good storylines you've just been proven wrong in my opinion.

Haven't seen a mediocre episode since before Hydro, this season's pulling out all the stops in the final stretch.


I agree with you completely about the episodes in the latter half of season six. Since "Hydro" I think they've been outstanding, so far. These last stories have really progressed Clark's story along about his impending future 'Super' activities and personal associations. I've found them to have been satisfying story-telling.

last survivor
04-24-2007, 01:49 PM
I really liked this episode.. it showed a relationship between to characters that we never got to see before ..wich was really intresting :)

Imzadia
04-24-2007, 10:26 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jlvsclrk
[B]An 8 for me. On the down side, the pacing was sluggish and they held some establishing shots a little too long.

I remember thinking as Clark was turning the truck around: Gee he's got a nice new truck, wonder what kind it is. And sure enough it turns into product placement. oh well, at least they spent the money on some nice FX.



YES, I thought it was so cool that Clark, finally, got a beautiful New Truck...even if it was mostly for product promotional purposes. I, too, thought this was a good episode, not great, so I rated it a 7, because it did clear up some pressing questions about Lana's baby, Chloe's mother and the Real reason she was institutionalized, and it set the 'mood' for the remaining episodes of this season. I was happy with it. :) :cool:

AngelaV
04-26-2007, 12:34 AM
10
Watched it a few hours ago. Still in shock over so much stuff. I stay away from spoilers and am I ever glad I did! I would've hated to watch this episode knowing anything about well, anything!
Awesome acting all around too!

Krypton935
04-26-2007, 01:56 PM
10! definitly! I loved the entire ep. I always love it when Chloe is a huge part of it.The chemistry btwn chloe and her mom and chloe and clark was just brilliant. I love episodes like this. There should be a 10x10 option.

redraven
04-26-2007, 06:17 PM
With the exception of a couple scenes...this episode was just plain boring. Nothing exciting really happened, and there were too many plot holes/inconsistancies for my taste.

I gave it a 6; would have given it a lower score, but Progeny wasn't as bad as Static, Wither, or Subterranean.

Imzadia
04-30-2007, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by redraven
With the exception of a couple scenes...this episode was just plain boring. Nothing exciting really happened, and there were too many plot holes/inconsistancies for my taste.

I gave it a 6; would have given it a lower score, but Progeny wasn't as bad as Static, Wither, or Subterranean.

:cool: WOW! You just listed my own personal vote for the three worst episodes of season six. I wonder how many more think/feel the way we do. ;)

ladylore
04-30-2007, 06:55 AM
Eh - I gave this one a 6. Nothing was satisfied for me in this episode, except for Lana finding out that her pregnancy was faked. My least favorite of the recent episodes.

Zaine07
05-06-2007, 03:06 AM
I really like d progeny because it was a chloe sullivan episode. And since I am a chloe lover I would give this episode a 10/10 because it was a great episode and Allison did it again.

Darc Kent
12-04-2007, 08:57 AM
I liked the episode just because it gave a little more insight into Chloe's life and past.

Imzadia
12-06-2007, 05:35 AM
: ( Uhh...What happened to Clark's beautiful, new, red Toyota Tundra King Cab pick-up truck that was first seen in this episode??! : \

Nimkong
03-02-2010, 06:25 PM
This episode is ok dont really rememeber it.Liked how they introduced chloes mom,liked the plot and how they continued with the chloe storyline

Raistlin
09-11-2011, 03:29 PM
I really didn't care much for this episode and gave it a 5. I really hate episodes that seemingly move events forward, then take them back before the episode ends. I didn't like how they reversed Chloe's original story about her mother. (i.e. Chloe woke up one day and found her mother gone.) The whole Mama is a meteor freak storyline was just weird; I also thought Linda Carter was miscast. I can understand wanting to do a Chloe-centric episode--heck, I love Chloe!--but I think they could have come up with a much, MUCH better idea.