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[supercatmom]

Clana is alive! Clana is alive! Clana is alive!!!
Clana will never die on Smallville.

Am I the only one having a hard time watching some parts of Smallville now?

In season 1, a 14 year old Clark pining and anguishing over Lana was cute and poignant. puppy love.

In season 6, a 20 year old Clark pining and anguishing over Lana is just sickening.

And now because Lana married Lex, Clark is out beating and hurting people. And taking pleasure in it. And talks about killing someone who gets in the way. After Reckoning, someone posted that Lana was the only thing in the universe that Clark gave a sh*t about And we're suppossed to believe that this BDA will someday become Superman.

[smallvillechic]

i know i mean he should just get over he an dmove on to chloe. i love the idea that he and chloe could get together. i mean they are perfect for each other. and lana doesn't really love him well thats what i think

[supes0]

Am I the only one having a hard time watching some parts of Smallville now?

Nope. It's painful, especially after Gough trumpeted the end of Clana. Right.


And we're suppossed to believe that this BDA will someday become Superman. [/B]

I've long since given up on that. I hoped to see him mature a little, but even that seems to be hopeless pipe dream.

We're on the clana road to nowhere. Abandon all hope ye who enter!

[darkone]

Tell me one good reason WTH he should move on to Chloe.I mean LOL?Especially after Promise its clear where Clark's heart belongs,not to mention Lana's.

[meggy]

take what AL/MILES say with a grain of salt..no wait...with a bucket of it.

[Joelito]

Clana ship always will be, even 30 year-old Clark still some fellings for Lana, but at the end Lois is going to be his wife.

but right now, Lana has her issues...let her suffer for her own decisions.

[Ania]

Let's hope Lana dies soon and finishes this horror. Clark's so pathetic now it's painful to watch. He'd be happy if someone killed him and finished his pity existance.

[friday]

Originally posted by Ania
Let's hope Lana dies soon and finishes this horror. Clark's so pathetic now it's painful to watch. He'd be happy if someone killed him and finished his pity existance.

Then they can die together like Romeo and Juliet.

[supercatmom]

Alright some things I want to add.

Because Lana married Lex, Clark now feels that he has the right to go out and maul and kill.

Technicly, he did not kill Titan, but he set out to kill him. And this is so wrong on so many levels.

It just reinforces that Lana is the love of his life and the only thing in his life thats worth a sh*t.

[petewillreturn]

I’m hoping that Lional is still channeling Jor-el and tells Clark that it was him that threatened Lana, but it was only a test to see if she would fight and stand up to him or cave in. Then tell him that she failed and that having a wife is much more than feelings and for Clark to snap out of his obsession with Lana.

[Ania]

Originally posted by friday
Then they can die together like Romeo and Juliet. Except Romeo wasn't killed out of pity to spare him watching Juliet marry his worst enemy. At least not in my version.

[msleggie]

Clana isn't alive, and I hope it never comes.

[BrianD]

honestly im gettin sick of the clana. its been done over and over and over again and it still hasnt really progressed. the only thing thats changed is that lana now knows that clark is different. big whoop.....how many others know. before you know it everybody on the freakin show is gonna know clarks secret.

[Ania]

Originally posted by msleggie
Clana isn't alive, and I hope it never comes. Clana is a zombie, going out of its grave every night to scare us and make us sick.

[CLanaF23]

Lana and Clark is NOT OVER with!!! Look stop hating everyone is just jealous cause they just CAN'T stop loving each other (clark and lana) look they belong together...after everything they have been through building this relationship and after everything that went on............ they both could have been moved on but they haven't!!! if any couple deserves to be happy in the end...its Lana and Clark...no question..... If you really love Smallville...you would want lana and clark relationship to work out...so fall back and stop hatin!!

[cartman]

agreed,its not like they can pretend there relationship isnt a part of the people they will become by the end of the show

[DeesRyche]

How can two ppl. love each other that don't even know each other...I'll give in to the idea that they love the idea of each other.

Lana's time while they were together...shows she couldn't love him when he was not telling her everything and had to confirm her suspicions before deciding to not marry lex. Clark is so infatuated (that's right infatuated) he does not even see all the wrong the girl has done and he is forever taking the guilt for all that went wrong in their relationship.

Back or not, fate will balance itself ala famous words from Jor-el and break them back up.

[Ania]

Originally posted by CLanaF23
Lana and Clark is NOT OVER with!!! Look stop hating everyone is just jealous cause they just CAN'T stop loving each other (clark and lana) look they belong together...after everything they have been through building this relationship and after everything that went on............ they both could have been moved on but they haven't!!! if any couple deserves to be happy in the end...its Lana and Clark...no question..... If you really love Smallville...you would want lana and clark relationship to work out...so fall back and stop hatin!! And since when either Lana or Clark were happy together?

If you really love Superman, you would want Lois and Clark.

[petewillreturn]

I don’t think people are jealous because they can’t stop loving each other. We know they control they can’t control there feelings but they can control their actions. Love is more than a feeling. Clark is still holing on to his high school infatuation and not seeing that this relationship hasn’t work in the pass and will not work in the future. And the way Lana loves Clark is sad. Since the begging she has always nagged him about “the truth” and not allowing him time and has always dropped him when things became too difficult for her and for anyone to be jealous over this relationship would be sad. Clark and Lana are toxic together and why shouldn’t people hate something that is destroying a couple and everyone around them.

[hearmewhisper]

Lana will always be Clark's first love. Nothing can change that, even if in the end he does end up with Lois. And Lana will always have a place in her heart for Clark. Both of these two are in love and nothing can really change that. Even if they do part from each other, some part of the other will always remain in their hearts.

[msleggie]

posted by ClanaF23: Lana and Clark is NOT OVER with!!! Look stop hating everyone is just jealous cause they just CAN'T stop loving each other (clark and lana) look they belong together...after everything they have been through building this relationship and after everything that went on............ they both could have been moved on but they haven't!!! if any couple deserves to be happy in the end...its Lana and Clark...no question..... If you really love Smallville...you would want lana and clark relationship to work out...so fall back and stop hatin!!

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but it is very unlikely that Clark and Lana get back togerher. And even if they do, it'll only be for a very, very,very,very,very,very,very,very,very,very, short time. The only relationship that Clark and Lana will have will most likely be a friendship, if they have any type of relationship at all. I love Smallville, I am more than a devoted fan, but I know for a fact that Clark and Lana will never have a working relationship. Those two just don't mesh well.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by supercatmom
In season 1, a 14 year old Clark pining and anguishing over Lana was cute and poignant. puppy love.

In season 6, a 20 year old Clark pining and anguishing over Lana is just sickening.
Unfortunately that's the reality on SV, yes...
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[do3mire]

Originally posted by supercatmom

In season 1, a 14 year old Clark pining and anguishing over Lana was cute and poignant. puppy love.

In season 6, a 20 year old Clark pining and anguishing over Lana is just sickening.



Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Unfortunately that's the reality on SV, yes...
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So, why are the tptb hinting at rewarming Clana? I actually thought Lexana was fun to watch. MR and KK have better chemstry together than TW and KK.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by do3mire
So, why are the tptb hinting at rewarming Clana?
Well, in their defense: it only made sense to bring back Clark's feelings for Lana, now that she got married to Lex...
It's all for the drama.

Was the entire Lexana wedding a good idea? I dunno... But hey: it was a big thing. Made everyone watch. That's all that TPTB want...

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by darkone
Tell me one good reason WTH he should move on to Chloe.I mean LOL?Especially after Promise its clear where Clark's heart belongs,not to mention Lana's.

Maybe because it makes Clark hurt and kill people? And not use his brain, except for when it comes to purposely forgetting all the lessons he's learned. Not that all people who want Clana would care about that so long as they get their Clana. With a lot of them, if it's true love, then whatever happens is okay. Oh, Clark accidently killed someone, oh it's okay, the poor boy is not thinking straight because he's in loooooooooove..........and it was an accident.


And don't even start with the Chloe rebuttle. With the way they've made this Clark Kent constantly hitting his head against the wall that is Clana.....there is no way that I would now believe a romance between him and someone who is smarter than him. Settle Chloe with anyone as cool as Chloe herself is. And so long as it's not the comic relief that is Jimmy Olson, then I'll be happy. But that doesn't look to be happening either. Yep, it's getting easier to miss an episode here and there......4-Sure.

Better to skip and episode and just read these message boards, at least it's not as bad as having to sit through it. Unless, it's reading one of Al Gough's oooooooo so clever plot give aways.....that sucks just as bad. Case and point.....the whole cleaver "baby" plot, and the oh so wonderfull "Lana, The Martyr Bride". When it comes to clever plot twists......oh Al, you're so witty.

[jr23344]

In retrospect...I know what-ifs are pointless...but heres how I would've done the clana. Back in season 2 when they started dating, Clark should've told Lana everything. THey should've dated for awhile..midway through season 3 and then when it was obvious it wasn't going to work, Clark then gives that speech he gave at the end of Phoenix where he says I tried so hard to be the right guy for you but I'm not. Perfect....they were honest, they gave it a shot, didn't work out..lets be friends...done. Would have saved a ton of needless angst and a lot of less p-od people.
Just loving a person is not enough, it needs to make sense. You have to think with your head and then with your heart. They both should've realized this a long time ago.

[TheOriginalKal-el]

For some reason I feel compelled to point out that Lana is in love with Clark Kent. And Clark with Lana. Whereas Lois Lane fell in love with Superman not Clark Kent. And Superman with her. Again not Clark Kent. Despite the fact that they are the same physical entity, they are two completely different beings. Right now the Clark Kent we know is not Superman.

[jr23344]

Originally posted by TheOriginalKal-el
For some reason I feel compelled to point out that Lana is in love with Clark Kent. And Clark with Lana. Whereas Lois Lane fell in love with Superman not Clark Kent. And Superman with her. Again not Clark Kent. Despite the fact that they are the same physical entity, they are two completely different beings. Right now the Clark Kent we know is not Superman.

I've always thought that too. I'm no comics reader, but I guess apparently the latest story is now Lois falls in love with Clark, not Superman. I kinda liked the Lois and Clark tv show version, where they made Clark a respectable, intelligent, not super dorky reporter who Lois could fall in love with. Sometimes watching the Superman films I really have a hard time deciding who the real person is....clark or superman? It probably is a combination but I really think he wishes he could wooo Lois with his dorky self rather than the buff dude in a cape. But your right OrignialKal-el, to me if the writers of smallville decide to go with the movie's interpretation...this Lois we see now will never love Clark, she'll love Superman. Not the guy we see on this show.

[CK&CK]

Originally posted by TheOriginalKal-el
For some reason I feel compelled to point out that Lana is in love with Clark Kent. And Clark with Lana. Whereas Lois Lane fell in love with Superman not Clark Kent. And Superman with her. Again not Clark Kent. Despite the fact that they are the same physical entity, they are two completely different beings. Right now the Clark Kent we know is not Superman.

And never will be.....not even when they put the "S" on him......because it will stand for something completely different.......but ooooooooo so descriptively accurate.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by TheOriginalKal-el
Despite the fact that they are the same physical entity, they are two completely different beings. Right now the Clark Kent we know is not Superman.
Two completely different beings??? Really?
Or simply different personalities...?

[jr23344]

so in actuality then.....Clark will never end up with Lana, but he'll never end up with Lois either if you think about it. :lol: THats kinda ironic I think...its kinda confusing too since Clark is Superman. That was one thing that annoyed me about the latest movie, the CLark and Lois interaction was terrible. It was like they weren't even friends.

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by smallvillechic
i know i mean he should just get over he an dmove on to chloe. i love the idea that he and chloe could get together. i mean they are perfect for each other. and lana doesn't really love him well thats what i think

YES! YES! YES!:D. . .Clark needs to put his "childish" fantasies aside and move on to an ADULT relationship with CHLOE:p :D. . .Chloe and Clark have such GREAT chemistry;) :p. . .They make each other laugh, smile, and they genuinely care for one another:). . .Lana is the girl that Clark is going to "grow out of," while Chloe is the girl that Clark is "growing into";). . .There's been just TOO MUCH foreshadowing of a future relationship between these two;). . .FEVER is the BEST example;). . .Why else would the writers deliberately show us time and time AGAIN that Chloe is the PERFECT GIRL for Clark?:D. . .I believe that what she says in her letter(I'm going to quote certain parts of the letter): I'm the girl of your dreams masquerading as your best friend. . .My father says that there are two types of girls, the ones you grow out of and the ones you grow into. . .I really hope that I am the latter. . .I will let you go for now, hoping that one day you'll fly back to me, because I think you're worth the wait is gradually becoming true:D


Originally posted by darkone
Tell me one good reason WTH he should move on to Chloe.I mean LOL?Especially after Promise its clear where Clark's heart belongs,not to mention Lana's.

There are several GOOD reasons why Clark should move on to Chloe:

#1 She represents his heroic side, and encourages him to embrace his destiny, unlike Lana, who represents normalcy, and who holds him back from becoming the Superman that we all know;)

#2 IF Clark were to have a relationship with Chloe, it would be angst-free:). . .Chloe knows everything about Clark. . .There are no secrets, and they TRUST each other COMPLETELY;). . .They are devoted to one another and would do ANYTHING to protect each other. . .Chloe has made A LOT of sacrifices for Clark. . .She has even gone as far as sacrificing her own personal happiness for Clark:). . .She is selfless, caring, devoted, and loyal to a fault. . .She would TRULY die for him, and I believe that Clark would as well;). . .Their relationship with be a healthy, honest ADULT relationship, whereas Clark's realtionship with Lana has been painful and angsty; it has never progressed from an adolescent to an ADULT relationship:)

#3 WATCH "FEVER" IN SEASON 2 THAT SHOULD SUM UP WHY CHLARK BELONG TOGETHER;) :p :D :)

[boingo]

Originally posted by petewillreturn
...Clark is still holding on to his high school infatuation and not seeing that this relationship hasn’t work in the pass and will not work in the future....

I don't see it as an infatuation AT ALL....Clark visibly feels genuine LOVE for Lana...

AND their relationship "hasn't worked" (that brief time they were allowed to be in one) not because they had fallen out of love with one another or because their genuine feelings for each other had changed BUT because of "outside" forces breaking them apart...Clark's fears in regards to who he is and how it it affects Lana (her dying/not being accepted/etc)


And the way Lana loves Clark is sad. Since the begging she has always nagged him about “the truth” and not allowing him time and has always dropped him when things became too difficult for her and for anyone to be jealous over this relationship would be sad.

Wanting to understand why the person you are in relationship with keeps giving you mixed signals....such as one moment he loves you when you ask him (cyborg) and in the next he doesn't (Hypnotic) or when he obviously wants to be with you (intimately) but keeps pulling away at the same time (Fanatic).....etc IS NOT nagging.....it is just wanting to know what the hell is going on lol (Did you fall in love with someone else? Are you gay? Did something happened from that near death experience that a certain body part is no longer functioning.....WHAT?! < This is all Lana has really wanted to know...an EXPLANATION.

Anyway, I enjoy watching Clark and Lana on this show (seeing their love grow from a simple crush (pilot) to full blown love (mortal)....seeing them try to figure life out and in deal with the obsticles life has thrown at them (or in this case TPTB lol)...and I am hoping to see them come full circle once again.....

[SpeedDemon77]

Alas! It's another Clana-related thread where Chlarkers chime in with far-fetched reasons for a Chlark romance!

Surprise, surprise. *yawn*

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

^^^ :lol: we should barge in the Chlark forum, get over it Chlark will never happen... Only friendship... 2 Women in clarks life, Lana and Lois the L's:D

[Heracles]

Clana will happen, and smallville will probably end with Clana breaking up or at least Clark and Lana agreeing that it is over. So for the Chlark fans, again not gonna happen. Clois Fans, well it might happen as a hint but I doubt it will happen (seeing Clark and Lois together? probably not). They would probably hint it as usual. So in the end, Clana will still happen at least one more time. It's sad how Smallville did not blossom into a great show. By the way, I don't get why people take it so personally with the characters, blame the writers haha, stupid writers.

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

Well can't happen because of superman returns, but a relationship i would like to see happen is chlex...that would be funny and cool
and welcome newbie^^

[freefall]

Clark has "loved" Lana what, since he was seven right? TPTB needs Clark to keep banging his head over and over with this whole Lana drama, and he's only going to finally get over it in the series finale, per AlMiles own words.

There's just no way I can believe Clark is in love with Lana anymore, he's just pissed off that he couldn't have her. In a way, he has reached Lex's level of simply viewing Lana as a trophy to be won.

[Curium]

I disagree , Clana is still very much alive and until one of the 2 " dies " which ironically they both have , clana will always be there until smallville finishs , it jus one of those things .

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

I agree with Curium, the only way clana will not happen is when smallville ends... Clark knows there is something wrong, because in promise she nearly cried, if you didn't like the person you would say get stuffed and have an angry face:)

[Peat Moss]

I don’t think people are jealous because they can’t stop loving each other. We know they control they can’t control there feelings but they can control their actions. Love is more than a feeling. Clark is still holing on to his high school infatuation and not seeing that this relationship hasn’t work in the pass and will not work in the future. And the way Lana loves Clark is sad. Since the begging she has always nagged him about “the truth” and not allowing him time and has always dropped him when things became too difficult for her and for anyone to be jealous over this relationship would be sad. Clark and Lana are toxic together and why shouldn’t people hate something that is destroying a couple and everyone around them.

Thank you! Finally someone realizes that their relationship is not actual love!

[freefall]

It's no surprise to me when he immediately shot heat visions when he saw Lana for the "first" time in Blank. What he felt for Lana at best is only lust and sexual attraction, he's simply in love with the idea and the image of a girl like the Pod Lana the Zoner whipped up for him in Labyrinth.

No way that's real love, you need actual substance, depth and personality for that, it's not just simply by looking pretty together.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by seacrystal
It's no surprise to me when he immediately shot heat visions when he saw Lana for the "first" time in Blank. What he felt for Lana at best is only lust and sexual attraction, he's simply in love with the idea and the image of a girl like the Pod Lana the Zoner whipped up for him in Labyrinth.


Anyone who's in love with a person also feels attracted to that person.

[freefall]

You don't have to be in love to feel attracted to somebody. And it also has been established since Heat that the heat vision was activated simply because of his sexual urges.

In Blank, he absolutely has no idea who Lana was and yet he was already associating sex with her. That's the impression I get from that scene, it simply reinforces that Clana just don't have any substance at all.

[cotton candy girl]

I disagree. Clark was smitten with Lana and felt love and attraction for her. When he was in the hallway with her talking to her, he felt love for her. I think that's the reason why the song was playing "You love me but you don't know who I am". That's what tptb wanted to get across. He loves Lana even when he doesn't know her. His heart feels love for her because it remembers his love for her. Isn't that what Chloe said? She said his heart remembered while his head didn't.

And you flipped my argument:


You don't have to be in love to feel attracted to somebody.

I said you are attracted to the people you love, not the converse.

[freefall]

And how do we know it's really love, not simply sexual attraction that Clark felt for Lana at that moment in Blank? Couldn't they just show him being awestruck at the sight of her without the heat vision thing?

And it's again reinforced in Labyrinth, where we know the Zoner used Clark's memories and subconscious and fears, and look at the way it presented Lana. A perfect, pink princess complete with the hairband who has been in love with him all along without any other males involved, much more perfect than the S1-S2 Lana. Clark still can't open his eyes and realizes that Lana is no longer that kind of girl, and yet he still sees her in that image.

Point is, he has never been truly in love with Lana as herself, just the idea of her.

[cotton candy girl]

Labyrinth has not erased Clark's love for Lana. In Labyrinth a non-existent Lana was presented, and Clark realized that in the end and rejected that. When he's in the real-world, he knows Lana is not a pink princess in a headband, and he still loves her.

You're not going to convince me Clark doesn't love Lana, and I'm probably not going to convince you that he does. But what's the big deal anyway? Lana is not Clark's destiny. Everyone knows he will marry Lois.

[freefall]

Clark has never rejected the Pod Lana in Labyrinth. He was all ready to get his head drilled open just to be with her. The Zoner made the mistake of making the Pod Lana disappear a little too soon, snapping Clark back to his senses and heard Shelby's barking.

I suppose he does indeed love her at some level, I'll give you that. But still not enough to say it's real love.

[cotton candy girl]

Clark loves the real Lana in everyday life and that's what matters. But I don't understand what the big deal is. Everyone knows that Clark will marry Lois. Why try to negate his present love for Lana? What's the point of that?

[freefall]

It matters because Clark's character has been destroyed over and over again at the expense of Clana, like someone else has pointed out, it's toxic not only to them, but also to the people around them. Also to the point where people can't believe how this Clark could ever be worthy of the superhero mantle.

[cotton candy girl]

That's a subjective argument. I don't believe Clark's character has been fully destroyed at the expense of Clana. While I don't agree with everything tptb have done, I think it's just hyperbole to claim that he can never be a superhero.

[freefall]

Well I myself also won't go as far as saying his character has been fully destroyed, but both Promise and Combat are on the sheer edge of that breaking point. Utterly dishonourable in Promise and in Combat, he's on the right track but totally on the wrong train. Beating up people unconscious and looking for fights just to release his anger about Lana/Lexana?

It's good for them to show his feelings or guilt and remorse at the end, but it's definitely going to take only God knows how many redemptive acts for him to work on, if he's really going to become Superman in the future and proclaim to the public about that whole truth and justice stuff and being a symbol of hope, without making him coming across as a hypocrite. If he's just supposed to be another everyday normal decent guy, I highly doubt there would be such an issue with this neverending Clana drama and what it has done to Clark's character.

[redKfan]

hey all of you RELAX! Yes there is still love between Clark And Lana! All of you who say that she doesn't love Clark is wrong because she does love him with all of her heart! The only reason that she married Lex was because she was protecting Clark. That damn Lionel had to threaten Lana. What a bastard! I predict that by the end of the season, Lana will confide in Clark to save her whereas he'll go and confront Lionel Luthor.

[freefall]

All I can say is thank God for Lionel, Clark himself would thank the magnificent bastard in the future for stopping Lana from running to him, for "saving" him from the utter destruction of his character and morals, by wanting to marry Lana on her own freaking wedding day itself.

[redKfan]

maybe so but seacrystal please post a reply on how i myself can get an avatar pretty please! :)

[boingo]

There could be multiple "loves" in a lifetime.

LOVE can be interpreted in a variety of ways to different people.

I see Clark and Lana's love for each other as genuine...not only because they have both expressed it physically (mortal) but also verbally (saying it to one another in several episodes)...and not only has "love" been shown through these expressions but also in selfless actions... such as in Clark "giving up" Lana for her safety and recently Lana "giving up" Clark for his safety....all this to me equates "LOVE"...when one thinks of the other's happiness/well-being far ahead of their own....

It is really quite beautiful to watch....

I know Clark/Superman has a future with Lois....like I said it is possible to "love" numerous times in a lifetime....

[DeesRyche]

^^qnd we are back to the it's beatiful.

Yes running to ex boyfriends ex best freind to teach the ex lesson...

Running to the most questionable man in town when the US was in total chaos...

Whining/nagging about truth and lies...when Lana has few secrets of her own

Running to console a friend on the night of the supposed "love of your life's" dad wins the Senatorial race....

having to find out if suspicions are true about ex boyfried to decide if it's worth getting rid of soon to be husband....

All aboslutely beautiful.

[Peat Moss]

I still can't see where people think it's actual love. Anyone who thinks they are in love responds to those who think they aren't by saying "Of course they're in love, because they love each other!" What kind of a point is that? The fact is, clark has an idyllic view of Lana that seems like it should be gone by now with all the bad things she has done (investigating him for one) And Lana only likes him for his powers--since she would have been perfectly fine with marrying Lex if she hadn't seen Clark's powers. And if Clark "loved" Lana the moment he saw her, wouldn't that imply he only loved her for her looks, since that's all he knew about her?

Yet, I don't think this has destroyed Clark's character. i'm just hoping he can move on.

[boingo]

Originally posted by DeesRyche
Yes running to ex boyfriends ex best freind to teach the ex lesson...

I am not sure which "ex boyfriends" you are referring to but I am guessing it is in regards to Lana dating Lex?? If so, Lex is/was also Lana's friend ....She has known Lex as long as Clark has (many years)....He (in Lana's eyes) has also helped her and been there for her (as friends)...Lana had just suffered a horrible break-up with Clark....she had been spending a lot of time with Lex (in solving the alien spaceship) and Lex provided distraction/comfort....In other words she was on a rebound.

Despite what some think Lana is not perfect....she is human.



Whining/nagging about truth and lies...when Lana has few secrets of her own

I will repeat...wanting to understand why the person you are in relationship with keeps giving you mixed signals....such as one moment he loves you when you ask him (cyborg) and in the next he doesn't (Hypnotic) or when he obviously wants to be with you (intimately) but keeps pulling away at the same time (Fanatic).....etc IS NOT nagging.....it is just wanting to know what the hell is going on lol (Did you fall in love with someone else? Are you gay? Did something happened from that near death experience that a certain body part is no longer functioning.....WHAT?! < This is all Lana has really wanted to know...an EXPLANATION.


Running to console a friend on the night of the supposed "love of your life's" dad wins the Senatorial race.

What was wrong with "Wanting to console a friend?"


having to find out if suspicions are true about ex boyfried to decide if it's worth getting rid of soon to be husband

Wanting to know "the whole story" before making a life altering decision was smart....the episodes leading up to this episode indicated Lana's reasoning ....Lana has always had feelings for Clark...she just thought Clark didn't feel the same anymore (Hypnotic)...so it wasn't a matter of "Worth" but rather "Truth"....


All aboslutely beautiful.

I know you were meaning it in a sarcastic manner but I honestly do see their love as beautiful....


I still can't see where people think it's actual love.

"LOVE" can be interpreted in a variety of ways to different people. *shrugs*


And Lana only likes him for his powers--since she would have been perfectly fine with marrying Lex if she hadn't seen Clark's powers.

I disagree...Lana discovering "Clark's secret" was the long sought after answer to the "why" of all her questions that had been plaguing their relationship...

[freefall]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
I still can't see where people think it's actual love. Anyone who thinks they are in love responds to those who think they aren't by saying "Of course they're in love, because they love each other!" What kind of a point is that? The fact is, clark has an idyllic view of Lana that seems like it should be gone by now with all the bad things she has done (investigating him for one) And Lana only likes him for his powers--since she would have been perfectly fine with marrying Lex if she hadn't seen Clark's powers. And if Clark "loved" Lana the moment he saw her, wouldn't that imply he only loved her for her looks, since that's all he knew about her?


Word. Truth be told, we're no longer in that period of time where people can claim the "true love at first sight" nonsense. Even in the Superman movies, I could never understand what in the world Clark saw in Lois to fall in love with her right away when they met at the DP.

There's just no way you can say you're in love with someone if you don't know anything about them. That "loving from afar" stuff is wash too. Per Lana's own words, she and Clark have been neighbours for years and still she had never been up in the loft before that S1 episode (forgot which one).

Clark and Lana love the idea of each other, not the person himself/herself. They see each other just as a beautiful "object". That what makes Clana so dead and insulting to a degree, Clark puts Lana on a pedestal, he lets himself become a pushover and Lana thinks she could get away by doing all that.


Originally posted by boingo
I am not sure which "ex boyfriends" you are referring to but I am guessing it is in regards to Lana dating Lex?? If so, Lex is/was also Lana's friend ....She has known Lex as long as Clark has (many years)....He (in Lana's eyes) has also helped her and been there for her (as friends)...Lana had just suffered a horrible break-up with Clark....she had been spending a lot of time with Lex (in solving the alien spaceship) and Lex provided distraction/comfort....In other words she was on a rebound.

Despite what some think Lana is not perfect....she is human.


While I agree it's human, and it's not a crime for being on a rebound, it's a serious character flaw and in the case of Lana Lang, it just keeps getting worse and worse. In Hydro we see her obviously wanting to make both Clark and Lex as her backup plans and has the gall to go back to Lex, fully confident he'd still take her after Clark rejected her because of the pregnancy (the BDA would definitely take her back if it isn't for the baby).


Originally posted by boingo

I will repeat...wanting to understand why the person you are in relationship with keeps giving you mixed signals....such as one moment he loves you when you ask him (cyborg) and in the next he doesn't (Hypnotic) or when he obviously wants to be with you (intimately) but keeps pulling away at the same time (Fanatic).....etc IS NOT nagging.....it is just wanting to know what the hell is going on lol (Did you fall in love with someone else? Are you gay? Did something happened from that near death experience that a certain body part is no longer functioning.....WHAT?! < This is all Lana has really wanted to know...an EXPLANATION.


She nagged and nagged when they were not in a relationship too, since S1 itself. And regarding that whole "I love you, I don't love you" BS between Lana and Clark, it's just another example why this relationship would never work and is simply poison to their own selves. Both don't even have the decency to be honest with themselves, let alone with their partner. Who could ever forget the way Lana delivered her "I don't know how I could ever loved you" to Clark in Vessel? And then in Hydro she said "I'd always love him"? What the hell? BS to the highest degree.


Originally posted by boingo

What was wrong with "Wanting to console a friend?"


It goes beyond consoling a friend. She was so foolish and disloyal that she thought she could just leave her future father-in-law's victory party against the so-called friend as well her own fiance, without even telling anyone. She could have just talked with him on the phone, send him a text message or whatever.

Her first hours of being engaged, not even married yet, and she was already being disloyal.


Originally posted by boingo

Wanting to know "the whole story" before making a life altering decision was smart....the episodes leading up to this episode indicated Lana's reasoning ....Lana has always had feelings for Clark...she just thought Clark didn't feel the same anymore (Hypnotic)...so it wasn't a matter of "Worth" but rather "Truth"....


And why they have to wait for the freaking wedding day to make that decision? That's the main issue here. Same goes to Clark. Why think of "saving" her and wanting to tell her the truth on the wedding day itself?



Originally posted by boingo

I know you were meaning it in a sarcastic manner but I honestly do see their love as beautiful....


From a shallow perspective and physically yes, their "love" is beautiful. Other than that?


Originally posted by boingo

I disagree...Lana discovering "Clark's secret" was the long sought after answer to the "why" of all her questions that had been plaguing their relationship...

Lana has been bugging Clark and sought after his secret as well as guilt tripping him way back when they were still not a couple, so this argument didn't hold water.

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

Lana tried to hide her feelings, so if she went with another guy maybe it would all disappear ... No it didn't, she said yes to Lex because of the baby...

And Lana wanted an explanation because Clark was always there for her to save her, ALWAYS THERE..and in the tornado incident, Lana clearly saw him, but it made out to think Lana was crazy.. Lana called Clark when Adam was about to shoot her Clark came to the rescue... Clark said "Why did you call me not the police".. Lana replied "Because you would be here to save me"...

If you had a guy that always there to rescue you, wouldn't you question him:D a guy that was to scared to have sex with you, wouldn't you question him:) you thought your boyfriend was dead and came back alive, wouldn't you question him:D

Deal with Clana is still on, Lana is Clark's First Love...

and in the future it will be Clois..

Smallville=Clana
Superman returns=Clois:D

ENOUGH SAID:D

[boingo]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Clark and Lana love the idea of each other, not the person himself/herself. They see each other just as a beautiful "object". That what makes Clana so dead and insulting to a degree, Clark puts Lana on a pedestal, he lets himself become a pushover and Lana thinks she could get away by doing all that.

It is more than "superficial" love imo....they have gotten to know each other over the years (6 if we go by the pilot)....and as much as I wouldn't mind seeing every possible Clark and Lana interaction in the one hour of television (unlike some lol) it is left to be believed that in their visits and conversations over these years they have gotten to know each other very well...not only as friends (first several seasons of the show) but as lovers (the summer they spent together)....

Clark is not a push over....he is a young man in love....and I have never seen Lana taking advantage of his love....



...In Hydro we see her obviously wanting to make both Clark and Lex as her backup plans and has the gall to go back to Lex, fully confident he'd still take her after Clark rejected her because of the pregnancy (the BDA would definitely take her back if it isn't for the baby).

Lana was very straightfoward in regards to her feelings for Clark with Lex (along with Chloe which was the drive of the whole episode regarding Ms.Lake)...she flat out told Lex that she still loved Clark....Lana once again realized that there was just no hope in her and Clark ever getting back together (especially now with her pregnancy)... She confesses to Lex the truth (her continuing love for Clark) and hoped to be able to move on (hopefully through Lex's love/the baby...especially since Lana does sincerely care for Lex ...Lex continued the relatioinship knowing full well Lana's strong feelings for Clark...


She nagged and nagged when they were not in a relationship too, since S1 itself.

Without specific examples it is hard to refute your arguement...but wanting to understand the why Clark does what he does....says what he says...acts the way he acts around her is not nagging....it is just wanting to understand....


And regarding that whole "I love you, I don't love you" BS between Lana and Clark, it's just another example why this relationship would never work and is simply poison to their own selves. Both don't even have the decency to be honest with themselves, let alone with their partner.

I think that is what the show is trying to portray....young Clark Kent's struggle in "fiitting in"...Clark Kent's struggle in being "accepted"...Clark Kent's struggle in facing "his fears"...Clark Kent's struggle in finding his balance (kryptonian side/Human side)....etc.


Who could ever forget the way Lana delivered her "I don't know how I could ever loved you" to Clark in Vessel? And then in Hydro she said "I'd always love him"? What the hell? BS to the highest degree.

She was hurt and angry....it is a natural reaction after having her heart crushed....but the honest truth is Lana has never really stopped loving Clark....she wanted to (really bad) but one can not control who one loves....


It goes beyond consoling a friend. She was so foolish and disloyal that she thought she could just leave her future father-in-law's victory party against the so-called friend as well her own fiance, without even telling anyone. She could have just talked with him on the phone, send him a text message or whatever.....

But then where is the drama in that lol Seriously though I still don't see anything really wrong with Lana checking on Lex especially knowing how devestated he must be from this electorial loss....the only harm that resulted from it was the one inflicted on her (her dying)....but that could have also happened with her driving to the Grocery Store....



And why they have to wait for the freaking wedding day to make that decision? That's the main issue here. Same goes to Clark. Why think of "saving" her and wanting to tell her the truth on the wedding day itself?

LOL
Show-wise....For Drama reasons (I assume)
Story-wise....Ever since Crimson/chisel Lana has been discovering something was "not right" .....Clark pushed her away...told her that he doesn't love her and yet he is always there watching her (looking out for her...."after everything"(Tresspass)...why? So the wedding day was the "time's up" buzzard.....and Lana's conversation with Nell was very telling of that....and it was also in Clark's mind his "Last Chance"...and his conversation with Chloe was very telling of that....

[All about Clark]

Clana may not be dead, but it's broken. Clark will realize he has to put a stop to his anger and get over her.

I honestly believe that Lana will continue to upset Clark with her actions. Between this and the marriage to Lex it will be dead soon enough.

I think the thing to look for is will Clark still be angry next eppy, because if he's not, then he's turned a corner.

[freefall]

Originally posted by Bonita_LovesSuperman
And Lana wanted an explanation because Clark was always there for her to save her, ALWAYS THERE..and in the tornado incident, Lana clearly saw him, but it made out to think Lana was crazy..


And you've pinpointed exactly what's so wrong with Lana's character. She has this arrogant notion that she's entitled to know everybody's secret, she's entitled to have full disclosure about everything. When exactly she's going to learn that people have their own secrets to keep, and you have no right to bug and guilt trip them about it until they're ready to tell you about it. Why can't she be supportive of them instead of whining and judging people about Secrets & Lies nonsense all the time?


Originally posted by Bonita_LovesSuperman

If you had a guy that always there to rescue you, wouldn't you question him:D a guy that was to scared to have sex with you, wouldn't you question him:) you thought your boyfriend was dead and came back alive, wouldn't you question him:D


Nope. I'd definitely think he's totally weird, but he's always there for me and that's what matters in the end. He's a good friend and I'd just be thankful for that.


Originally posted by Bonita_LovesSuperman

Lana called Clark when Adam was about to shoot her Clark came to the rescue... Clark said "Why did you call me not the police".. Lana replied "Because you would be here to save me"...


Another proof that Lana doesn't really care for Clark as himself. She sees him mostly only as her bodyguard to get her out of trouble. Clark himself realized this in Trespass when he said "Your job!" when the wacko bodyguard asked him what was he doing there.


Originally posted by Bonita_LovesSuperman

Deal with Clana is still on, Lana is Clark's First Love...

And I'd like to make it clear I have no problems with Clana, and I'd certainly be happy to "deal with it" as long as it contributes to both Lana's and Clark's growth as their own characters. And I've yet to see that even after all these six years running.

[SpeedDemon77]

Originally posted by seacrystal

And I'd like to make it clear I have no problems with Clana, and I'd certainly be happy to "deal with it" as long as it contributes to both Lana's and Clark's growth as their own characters. And I've yet to see that even after all these six years running.

I have yet to see Chloe actually getting over her obsession for Clark after six years, but I'm hoping it's soon to come. :lol:

Face it....after six seasons all of these characters are slow to progress....and as a part of a drama that's lasted six years so far that's bound to be the case. Since a lot of the actors' contracts expire end of next season, I'm almost certain that Season 7 will hold some major turning points. ;)

[Peat Moss]

I keep hearing that it was the fact that Clark kept a secret from Lana that kept them apart and caused her to marry Lex.

(1) So she marries Lex as long as she can't be with Clark? not fair to Clark or Lex.

(2) The secret wasn't keeping them apart. It was the powers themselves. She was ready to leave Lex at the altar when? After finding out about his powers. He still hadn't told her the secret, so technically he was still lying to her. But now she knew about his powers, so she was ready to run off with him.

This is love?

[Angelina2809]

I understand why some people are sick of the Lana and Clark thing - they are together, appart, together appart......
I still have a thing for Lana and Clark. But I aslo like the thought that Clark and Chloe could be together!
No, I hope I can see much more of Clana..... I love it!!!! They must clear things between them! All the years we watched them and hope fora happy end - Lana know his secret, understand Clark why he broked up 'cause he protected her etc.
We deserve that after all these years watching and waiting!
No, I do not want Lana to die!!!!! No, I wish she will find someone to be with!!!!

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

Yeah Lana and Clark will have a better relationship, i wonder what that will turn out like, Lana Knowing everything, Clark not making any stupid excuses:D

I'm sorry to say but Chlark can't happen, Romance will spoil there friendship.. They have a really good friendship bond..

Like end of season two, chloe called it off, Clarks like yeah we are better of friends.. If that was Lana saying that to Clark, Clark would be all why what happend:D

I would like chloe to be with Jimmy... But i also want Chlex...Chloe and Lex i wonder how that could be like:)

Lana and Clark friendship could happen nearly the end of smallville, Just clearing things out, Lana telling Clark to fulfill his destiny etc.. But that's along way to go, Let's enjoy smallville while it's still running:D

[DeesRyche]

Originally posted by boingo
I am not sure which "ex boyfriends" you are referring to but I am guessing it is in regards to Lana dating Lex?? If so, Lex is/was also Lana's friend ....She has known Lex as long as Clark has (many years)....He (in Lana's eyes) has also helped her and been there for her (as friends)...Lana had just suffered a horrible break-up with Clark....she had been spending a lot of time with Lex (in solving the alien spaceship) and Lex provided distraction/comfort....In other words she was on a rebound.

On my god You have opened my eyes...I so totally missed that...

Puh-leeze. But it does not mean she had to take it as far as she did. Personally, I would give Lana more credibility if she would/could have walked from both and taken time to figure thing out for herself. She's also admitted she loves them both.


Originally posted by boingo
Despite what some think Lana is not perfect....she is human.

Again (insert sarcasm) thanks for shedding the light. She is far from it her character is the ultimate in self destruction...she could really use some Lana time and figure out she does not meed a man to complete herself.





Originally posted by boingo
I will repeat...wanting to understand why the person you are in relationship with keeps giving you mixed signals....such as one moment he loves you when you ask him (cyborg) and in the next he doesn't (Hypnotic) or when he obviously wants to be with you (intimately) but keeps pulling away at the same time (Fanatic).....etc IS NOT nagging.....it is just wanting to know what the hell is going on lol (Did you fall in love with someone else? Are you gay? Did something happened from that near death experience that a certain body part is no longer functioning.....WHAT?! < This is all Lana has really wanted to know...an EXPLANATION.

But she's not entitled but why go as far to the alter...which just reiforces the shallowness of her character.




Originally posted by boingo
What was wrong with "Wanting to console a friend?"

Well, not a problem to console a friend but would you not alert someone that you were stepping out?"Gee, I am sorry I have to step out for a bit. I am worried about a friend."




Originally posted by boingo
Wanting to know "the whole story" before making a life altering decision was smart....the episodes leading up to this episode indicated Lana's reasoning ....Lana has always had feelings for Clark...she just thought Clark didn't feel the same anymore (Hypnotic)...so it wasn't a matter of "Worth" but rather "Truth"....

As has been pointed out, Clark must have some reason that he did not want to tell Lana some deep seeded..gee she's not the one. It was just reinforced in Reckoning (prior to that something deep held him back) when he was shown that she might die as a result of it(thus adding to his hesitantcy (sp?).




Originally posted by boingo
I know you were meaning it in a sarcastic manner but I honestly do see their love as beautiful....

Of course Clana'ers do, it's the healthiest relationship and now that she knows somehow 6 years of of distrust will magically be erased and they should ride off in the sunset.




Originally posted by boingo
"LOVE" can be interpreted in a variety of ways to different people. *shrugs*

Yup and to Clark Lana represents his chance at a normal life in SV maybe if he could take off his blinders and see more of the person Lana has been written as he would stop putting her on a pedastal.




Originally posted by boingo
I disagree...Lana discovering "Clark's secret" was the long sought after answer to the "why" of all her questions that had been plaguing their relationship...

Borrowing words from Lana to Jason in Season 4 episode Blank...they can't go back to the way it was (ala her and Jason in Paris) since all that's passed between them. So her knowing is not going to magically erase the last 5 years...that (and borrowing your rationale that Lana is human) is human nature. Trust is a fragile thing and once destroyed (even if in the interest of protecting someone else (ie: Clark's rationale and certainly not lanapoos decsion to hide a few of her own secrets)) is very difficult to restore.

[CDLBLUE]

Their are different types loves at different stages of life, first love ,because it happen in the first flush of youth is often the most intense ,if not the most mature. Based as it is on hormonal explosion and the novelty of the first love, but it is also the shortest, because it is not grounded in wise and mature judgement, thus the love, (if such it can be called), between Clark and Lana. Clark has always labored under his illusion/delusion/fantasy of Lana instead of the reality of Lana, she for her part has never know the real Clark, anymore then she knows the real Lex, because everyone involved in this triangle is in fact a stranger to each other, none of them can really know what true love is. If Clark had know what Lana was really like ,he would never have loved her, if Lana had know what Clark was really like, she would never have lost him, if Lana had know what Lex was really like ,she ( probably) would never have gone to him. I think the climax of the 6th season will be Lana finally learning the truth about Clark and Lex, it may save her life and sanity, but it will not restore her relationship with Clark, that is over forever.

[boingo]

Originally posted by DeesRyche
On my god You have opened my eyes...I so totally missed that...
Puh-leeze. But it does not mean she had to take it as far as she did....

Lana did not plan what happened for her to purposely “take it as far”….she was merely reacting to the circumstances and emotions she was feeling at the time….in her mind (at that particular time) Lex was there for her …he provided the distraction she needed after the horrible and painful break up with Clark [by hanging out together (spaceship)] and at some point she convinced herself that she could move on and possibly be happy with Lex…and Lex knew exactly what Lana’s state of mind was in during this time…


Again (insert sarcasm) thanks for shedding the light. She is far from it her character is the ultimate in self destruction...she could really use some Lana time and figure out she does not meed a man to complete herself.

I disagree regarding “her character [being] the ultimate in self destruction”…in regards to how she will react/overcome Lex/Lionel’s acts remains to be seen but as far as all the other past problems/tragedies/etc., Lana’s character has shown tremendous amount of strength in overcoming and moving on from them…


But she's not entitled but why go as far to the alter...which just reiforces the shallowness of her character.

Being in a relationship makes her “entitled” for an EXPLANATION (again nothing to do with Clark’s secret) but rather the “why” of their “relationship” problems…why he stopped sleeping with her…why the mixed-signals...well all the things I mentioned in my earlier post…


Well, not a problem to console a friend but would you not alert someone that you were stepping out?"Gee, I am sorry I have to step out for a bit. I am worried about a friend."

Lana “informing” of her leaving was not the problem imo…Clark had no way of knowing (just like Lana didn’t) that Lex would at some point chase her down a road and a bus crashing into her would lead to her death…


Borrowing words from Lana to Jason in Season 4 episode Blank...they can't go back to the way it was (ala her and Jason in Paris) since all that's passed between them. So her knowing is not going to magically erase the last 5 years...that (and borrowing your rationale that Lana is human) is human nature. Trust is a fragile thing and once destroyed (even if in the interest of protecting someone else (ie: Clark's rationale and certainly not lanapoos decsion to hide a few of her own secrets)) is very difficult to restore.

*scratches head* I never said the past will “magically erase”?? …and what “trust” are you referring to??



Of course Clana'ers do, it's the healthiest relationship and now that she knows somehow 6 years of of distrust will magically be erased and they should ride off in the sunset.


I am thinking more in the lines of "flying off into the sunset" :p Sorry, I couldn’t resist in joining in on your sarcasm fun lol

[DeesRyche]

Originally posted by boingo
Lana did not plan what happened for her to purposely “take it as far”….she was merely reacting to the circumstances and emotions she was feeling at the time….in her mind (at that particular time) Lex was there for her …he provided the distraction she needed after the horrible and painful break up with Clark and at some point she convinced herself that she could move on and possibly be happy with Lex…and Lex knew exactly what Lana’s state of mind was in during this time…

You are right she did not have to but she did. It was really rather disgusting that she settled for Lex in Hydro just because Clark once again could not tell her and of course she failed to mention her pregnancy.




Originally posted by boingo I disagree regarding “her character the ultimate in self destruction”…in regards to how she will react/overcome Lex/Lionel’s acts remains to be seen but as far as all the other past problems/tragedies/etc., Lana’s character has shown tremendous amount of strength in overcoming and moving on from them…

Yes she is. I don't see her being forced to marry Lex as a lightswitch to her character development. There was no reason to to take it this far. I would (and certainly not everyone's opinion) I would have found it more believable and credible had she said in Hydro that she needed to think things over especially since she admitted to Lex that she had feelings for Clark pregnant or not.




Originally posted by boingo Being in a relationship makes her “entitled” for an EXPLANATION (again nothing to do with Clark’s secret) but rather the “why” of their “relationship” problems…why he stopped sleeping with her…why the mixed-signals...well all the things I mentioned in my earlier post…

Being in a relationship does not entitle you to anything other than what your friend, partner, lover is willing to share. It's impossilbe to know everything about someone else.

Again here I say it might have been much better if Lana could have resepcted his decision and trust that he would have told her when the time was right. But did she? No she kept pushing him away and forcing the whole "Let's get it on" issue.


Originally posted by boingo Lana “informing” of her leaving was not the problem imo…Clark had no way of knowing (just like Lana didn’t) that Lex would at some point chase her down a road and a bus crashing into her would lead to her death… [/B]

No and again trust comes in here. If Lana had any tact, it would be polite to let your BF know you are leaving the party. Not necessarily to say where she was going but in this case Lana knew that Clark and Lex were on a slippery slope and Clark would be totally against her going to Lex's (even if he did not know that Lana was in danger).



Originally posted by boingo *scratches head* I never said the past will “magically erase”?? …and what “trust” are you referring to?? [/B]

Exactly what trust...what good is love without trust? Lana's crying/whining harping over the years has been over the fact that he's hiding something and she's miffed that he does not trust her enough to tell her from her POV. From Clark's POV it's really becuase he is afraid she can't handle knowing and could die as result of it. So if Clark does not trust her, how can she trust him? One must have trust for a relationship to work. So now that she knows I don't think it gives them a fresh clean slate becasue the past is still there.

Regardless, Clana is not to be anyway and another shot will only show again why the relationship will not work.



Originally posted by boingo I am thinking more in the lines of "flying off into the sunset" :p Sorry, I couldn’t resist in joining in on your sarcasm fun lol [/B]

Lana may be the present but Clois is the future. At this point, I don't care what happens with Clana becasue the end game is it does not work they will not ride into the sunset to live happily ever after.

[Sweetie]

The only good thing that will come out of Clana is Clark will realise that he has to tell the thruth in every situations that he will have to face in the future,he is going to learn it the worst way possible by loosing his first love forever.He will becoming the iconic hero who never lies.But,the only woman in his life who will learn him what real love is Lois Lane that's why he will happy with her.We can already see hints that it will work between them in the future,we don't need to see them all over each other to know that.It's pretty clear that they are perfect for each other.

That's the different between Clana & Clois.They showed us for 6 seasons now,the same Clana's crap so we can see how wrong they really are for each other in so many levels but,with Clois, they don't because we know it's going to work for the best for them in the future.

[CDLBLUE]

Exactly.

[sierramoon131]

It seems to me that if Clark got so many lessons in the need to tell the truth in dealing with Lana, that he would tell Lois sooner.

I know, I know, SV is SV and Superman is Superman, but I can't believe we have to wait until Superman Returns II to see if Clark finally tells Lois the truth, esp. after having his kid!

Guess Jor-El left the "importance of truth in a relationship" crystal out of the initial pack.

[Sweetie]

Another thing that is different Clois from Clana is Clark build a good friendship with Lois before jumping in the bed with her.That's why it will make no difference if he told her sooner or later.Their relationship will survive because it's solid as a rock and Clark knows that he can trust Lois.We can even have hints of that already in Smallville...On Hydro:Lois told Clark that she hates that he knows her like that.Lois treat him differently than anyone else.She don't put up with lazy behaviors,never fell sorry for him but,still she can very supportive at the same time,she wants him to go out there and do something positive but,not for her but,for the all world.She already knows there's something special about him and she's willing to share him with the all world.It's this king of woman that he needs,someone who beleives in him but,brings him down when he needs to.

[CDLBLUE]

Since the beginning of the 4th season, when Lana came back from Paris, it has been difficult to fathom just what Clark sees in her , her immaturity, bad judgement, lack of character, morals, etc, makes it think of a reason why Clark would still be interested, it would have been right and understandable for him to move on then and there , especially with Lois Lane coming into town, anyone would have seen just how superior she was to Lana, in every way, she is Chloe grown up, with her intelligence, courage and spunk. Clark and Lana should have died a peaceful death then and there.

[boingo]

Originally posted by DeesRyche
You are right she did not have to but she did. It was really rather disgusting that she settled for Lex in Hydro just because Clark once again could not tell her...

She didn't "settle" because Clark didn't "tell her" imo...she settled (among other reasons such as pregnancy) because Clark once again pretty much told her there was no hope for them especially after him finding out about her pregnancy (and justifiably so)



Yes she is. I don't see her being forced to marry Lex as a lightswitch to her character development. There was no reason to to take it this far. I would (and certainly not everyone's opinion) I would have found it more believable and credible had she said in Hydro that she needed to think things over especially since she admitted to Lex that she had feelings for Clark pregnant or not.

I found her actions (at this point) believable considering her state of mind...and especially considering that she was pregnant with Lex's "child"....she was honest with Lex about her feelings (still loved Clark) but had to move foward (in her mind there was no hope between her and Clark) and since she does care for Lex (he has been there for her/and is the father of her child/appears to love her) then maybe she would one day grow to really love him....

I will admit I never liked the whole "pregnancy" storyline AT ALL but I try to see the whole "plot" the writers are trying to convey on screen....


Being in a relationship does not entitle you to anything other than what your friend, partner, lover is willing to share....

Everyone has different views on relationships...on what constitutes a good/bad one....what is the right/wrong thing to do....what makes it work/what doesn't so I don't really want to go into further debate on that....



Lana's crying/whining harping over the years has been over the fact that he's hiding something and she's miffed that he does not trust her enough to tell her from her POV. From Clark's POV it's really becuase he is afraid she can't handle knowing and could die as result of it. So if Clark does not trust her, how can she trust him? One must have trust for a relationship to work. So now that she knows I don't think it gives them a fresh clean slate becasue the past is still there.

I don't see it as generalized as you do....The situations/reactions/questions Lana has had over the years are specific to the particular situations/reactions/questions of that particuar moment and time.....Lana just seeks explanations and understanding to the "why" of some of Clark's actions ...ask me out on a date only to leave with someone else....why? (Red)...show me you love me, kiss me passionately and then you leave for 3 months only to come back and break up with me...what happened? (Phoenix) and so on and so on....



Lana may be the present but Clois is the future. At this point, I don't care what happens with Clana becasue the end game is it does not work they will not ride into the sunset to live happily ever after.

and that is life....things change (for whatever reason)....meet other people....fall in love with other people...etc. but that to me doesn't diminish or change my enjoyment of Clark and Lana's relationship. Not only because I have come to know and love these characters from watching this show over the years but also because for me it isn't just about the "end game" but rather enjoying the journey :)


That's the different between Clana & Clois.They showed us for 6 seasons now,the same Clana's crap so we can see how wrong they really are for each other in so many levels but,with Clois, they don't because we know it's going to work for the best for them in the future.

I disagree with your viewpoint of the writers purposely showing "how wrong they really are for each other"....like many hero stories (including clois) a key ingredient is having drama and conflict within the telling of a story....


Another thing that is different Clois from Clana is Clark build a good friendship with Lois before jumping in the bed with her.

You make it sound like Clark and Lana had a one night stand lol There was a clear friendship established during the show's first season's between Clark and Lana....


Since the beginning of the 4th season, when Lana came back from Paris, it has been difficult to fathom just what Clark sees in her , her immaturity, bad judgement, lack of character, morals, etc, makes it think of a reason why Clark would still be interested, it would have been right and understandable for him to move on then and there ,...

Clark must see what I as a viewer sees in Lana *shrugs*.....because besides "bad judgement", I honestly don't see what you stated regarding Lana's character.....on the contrary I see the complete opposite....

[HoHumOne]

boingo, you make waaay too much sense. I'm making you one of my official forum spokespersons, as I am too disinterested to counter all the (IMO) extravagant Clana-clubbing. :D :cool:

While I have no problem with some factions of SV fandom preferring or being more intrigued by possible Clois or Chlark couplings, as I enjoy the interaction of those couplings as well and can appreciate that either one could develop into interesting new possibilities if given the chance.. it seems to me that people go out of their way to interpret Lana/Clana as negatively as possible. I don't think it's a purposeful effort among the "haters", per se, but my sense is that the exhaustively negative interpretations of her every action or motivation is a natural inclination if you're already in that adversarial mindset, i.e., the mind unconsciously seeking out only those interpretations which support your dislike, and disregarding or minimizing anything which might counter your preference.

Some of the same can be suggested for Clana supporters. Since I am sympathetic to Lana and enjoy the Clana pairing, I more easily find positive interpretations for Lana's actions. It comes more naturally to me, given my affection for Clana.

The truth of the matter is that, whether it be religion, politics, or even Smallville, as much as we all like to think that we come by our opinions as a result of careful analytical thought, it's our emotions that tend to guide the direction of our analyses. The best we can do is acknowledge the impact of our biases, and try as best as we can to look objectively at arguments of the opposite side and seek out reasons to accept them before looking for ways to dismiss them. But this requires more time and effort and most people aren't willing to take that step. Hence, why the same old arguments go around in perpetual circles. :\

[boingo]

Originally posted by HoHumOne
boingo, you make waaay too much sense. I'm making you one of my official forum spokespersons, as I am too disinterested to counter all the (IMO) extravagant Clana-clubbing. :D :cool:

Thank you for the compliment HoHumOne :)


While I have no problem with some factions of SV fandom preferring or being more intrigued by possible Clois or Chlark couplings, as I enjoy the interaction of those couplings as well and can appreciate that either one could develop into interesting new possibilities if given the chance.. it seems to me that people go out of their way to interpret Lana/Clana as negatively as possible. I don't think it's a purposeful effort among the "haters", per se, but my sense is that the exhaustively negative interpretations of her every action or motivation is a natural inclination if you're already in that adversarial mindset, i.e., the mind unconsciously seeking out only those interpretations which support your dislike, and disregarding or minimizing anything which might counter your preference.

Some of the same can be suggested for Clana supporters. Since I am sympathetic to Lana and enjoy the Clana pairing, I more easily find positive interpretations for Lana's actions. It comes more naturally to me, given my affection for Clana.

The truth of the matter is that, whether it be religion, politics, or even Smallville, as much as we all like to think that we come by our opinions as a result of careful analytical thought, it's our emotions that tend to guide the direction of our analyses. The best we can do is acknowledge the impact of our biases, and try as best as we can to look objectively at arguments of the opposite side and seek out reasons to accept them before looking for ways to dismiss them. But this requires more time and effort and most people aren't willing to take that step. Hence, why the same old arguments go around in perpetual circles. :\

I completely agree!

I can understand why this tv show fandom is so divided to a certain extent....Smallville is like a very good buffet in that it has so many great choices to endulge in....and naturally every individual has their own preferences (likes and dislikes) and crave more of one and less of the other....it is when some individuals start sabotaging/critisizing the favorite food(s) of others that it tends to get ugly....all hell breaks loose and well .....Food Fight! :p

[SpeedDemon77]

Originally posted by Sweetie
Another thing that is different Clois from Clana is Clark build a good friendship with Lois before jumping in the bed with her.

Huh?:\

Clark and Lana were friends for YEARS before they got intimate.
Just tell me which episode in Season One that they slept together, because obviously I missed that one. :lol:

[Sweetie]

Originally posted by SpeedDemon77
Huh?:\

Clark and Lana were friends for YEARS before they got intimate.
Just tell me which episode in Season One that they slept together, because obviously I missed that one. :lol:


I meant that they didn't established a good openned friendship before having sex.In the first season,he can't approche her because of her krypto-necklass & he was stalking her all the time.Throught all the previous seasons,he refused to tell her his secret,he was too scared that he was going to loose her.Suddenly,on season 5,he thought he had the right to sleep with her because he lost his powers???What is wrong with them?He was the most insensitive jerk out there and she was beyong naive...He did not explained anything to her but,she excepted to sleep with him anyway.It was an irresponsable move to make when he knows that it's not his powers that makes him an alien but,the fact that he was born on another planet,that is a big deal.He should have come clean with her before doing it .That means if he had lost his powers sooner,he would had sex with her much sooner.

[AlinaKitty1988]

It is a fact that La na and Clark won;t be together and that's because in the future Clark will fell in love with Lois and marry her

[Heracles]

Just wanna say CLANA is back, to those who did not believe, too bad. Just wanna say I told you so.