Titan dies..

[CSBen]

Could someone come up with an explanation on the fact Titan managed to die due to a stab wound? Last time I checked, Kryptons skin was slightly tougher than some wooden/metal spike..

[InLove_with_Chloe]

I was also surprised when Titan threw Clark against the wire fence....I mean, how could the fence withstand that kind of a force?!?

[CSBen]

It seems stupid.. completely against all principles of superman w.e... We see him catch a bullet earlier in the ep and then the guy dies from falling on a spike.

[MidgardDragon]

Titan wasn't Kryptonian, for one thing. Another thing is, the thing that stabbed him was a part of his own body. I'm sure it would be tough enough to pierce himself.


Originally posted by CSBen
It seems stupid.. completely against all principles of superman w.e... We see him catch a bullet earlier in the ep and then the guy dies from falling on a spike..

I don't normally get bugged, like when Lex hit Clark with the wrench thing and it bent or something.. yeah it was a bit dumb but whatever.. however this.. this just goes against everything superman :mad:

A spike that *came out of his arm*. Not to mention that he was thrown with force by Clark as well. It's not the first time Superman has killed an alien supervillain either, btw. So people need to stop harping on that, he didn't do it intentionally even though he wanted to.

[CSBen]

Well he had a Kryptonian prison tattoo..

It's not clear that spike was a part of him either..


Not to mention that he was thrown with force by Clark as well.

irrelevant if skin = stronger than spike :o

[MidgardDragon]

Well, here are my two lines of thinking:

1) The Kryptonian tattoo was probably from the Phantom Zone. Titan referred to Clark as "Kryptonian". Most of us, for example, wouldn't say "Come here human!" to each other. But if Titan was of another race and Clark is Kryptonian, then that line makes the most sense.

2) I think it's pretty darn clear the spike was a part of him. Why wouldn't it be? It appeared to come straight from his arm after all. Nothing indicates otherwise and none of the other fighters used anything other than their freak powers and bare hands. Why would Titan get to use a weapon that wasn't part of him?

[Nalin]

The Kryptonian tatoo could just mean he was sent to the phantom zone by Kryptonians but isnt one himself....

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by CSBen
Well he had a Kryptonian prison tattoo..

It's not clear that spike was a part of him either..



irrelevant if skin = stronger than spike :o

Ah but your skin isn't stronger than your bones. Since the spike was clearly, (IMO but I still think it's pretty much a definite) a part of him, it stands to reason it would be similar to bone, and thus stronger than skin.


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Ah but your skin isn't stronger than your bones. Since the spike was clearly, (IMO but I still think it's pretty much a definite) a part of him, it stands to reason it would be similar to bone, and thus stronger than skin.

ETA: For example, I'm sure Clark's bones are stronger than his skin. If Clark was to get stabbed at force (by another Kryptonian or someone with equal power) by a sharp piece of one of his bones (assuming they don't lose power once detached from Clark's body) he would probably die too if it was in a vital spot like the chest. Or if say, Clark had a bone-spike or something that was a part of his body spike come out of him, he could probably stab himself with it easily.

[CSBen]

MidgardDragon

Well if he wasn't Kryptonian then the whole skin = stronger than spike thing doesn't matter :p

The spike may have been a part of him but it could have just as easily been some kind of wrist weapon..

Anyway, your 1st point makes a lot of sense! I can accept what happened now :D

[fasterthenflash]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Well, here are my two lines of thinking:

1) The Kryptonian tattoo was probably from the Phantom Zone. Titan referred to Clark as "Kryptonian". Most of us, for example, wouldn't say "Come here human!" to each other. But if Titan was of another race and Clark is Kryptonian, then that line makes the most sense.

2) I think it's pretty darn clear the spike was a part of him. Why wouldn't it be? It appeared to come straight from his arm after all. Nothing indicates otherwise and none of the other fighters used anything other than their freak powers and bare hands. Why would Titan get to use a weapon that wasn't part of him?

You make a good point human.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by fasterthenflash
You make a good point human.

See now you're proving my point. ;) You calling me human just makes me think you're an alien or monster of some kind.

[ColdKryptonite]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
See now you're proving my point. ;) You calling me human just makes me think you're an alien or monster of some kind.

Dude, you're totally weird.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by ColdKryptonite
Dude, you're totally weird.

Dude, it was totally a joke. And yes, yes I am.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I don't think Titan was kryptonian because why would he call a fellow home worlder by "Time to die Kryptonian".

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by CSBen
Could someone come up with an explanation on the fact Titan managed to die due to a stab wound? Last time I checked, Kryptons skin was slightly tougher than some wooden/metal spike..

Um I don't think that is the question to ask IMO

The question should be how did Titan got stabbed with his spike...

I mean look how he landed on that arm... yes I can understand the Spike breaking...

what I don't get there is no way for that spike to hit the ground snap, and then move straight up in order to stab Titan...

[wallyK]

Well, it was a given that Titan was doing to die, but Clark was not going to directly kill him. So he got impaled on his own spike. He somehow fell on it. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but good enough to end the fight. I really wanted to see Clark use his heat vision, wouldn't that be gruesome?

[boatsboston]

It seemed that Titan didn't use all of his powers as well. Remember that white beam that come out of Titan's eyes or mouth that he used on the MF he killed online.

I don't know what the weapon Titan used was but even if it wasn't a part of him it was some off world weapon that could of killed Clark. I would of liked Clark running over and pushing the weapon further into Titan's chest but oh well.

I like the dark Clark. I much rather have Clark be conflicted about the potential abuse of his powers then being lovestruck over Lana.

[Lambshank]

I'm almost 100% sure that the beam was from the person titan was fighting, that's why he knocked the guys hand away and the beam stopped.

Also, as for the spike. It isn't clear if it was a weopon or part of him, but one would assume it was part of him otherwise Clark would just snap it like any other earthbound material, so even though it isn't convincing looking at it it's probably simpler to assume it was part of Titan.

Then again if the weopon was strong enough to pierce clarks skin then you would think that it would be almost impossible to brake, even if some bigass mofo falls flat on it, but oh well...

[Ginx]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I was also surprised when Titan threw Clark against the wire fence....I mean, how could the fence withstand that kind of a force?!?

Well - I'm guessing that the ring was built with super-powered people in mind since it was a kyrpto-fight club. So it could withstand a bit of force.........

As for Titan getting killed on his own spike - If he was a suped up krypto-warrior then his spike would have been able to take on similar beings I'm guessing. Although if you think about it - on Krypton no one had the powers they have on Earth - yellow sun and all that good stuff.

But where would Clark have kept Titan - he had to kick-it - so now Clark's got an extreme that he needs to think about next time he goes against a bad guy - he'll think about that guy he killed etc and try to build a middle ground from it.

[BrianD]

yea that was IMO the best fight i've seen on SV. i loved how they put it in slow motion too. makes us see exactly how much pain their inflicting. clarks uppercut looked like the uppercut from Mortal Kombat games.

[crzyeyez1345]

Wasnt Titan originally supposed to be a cyborg type deal?

[Bat_Lantern]

The force used by both combatants was strong enough to make both aliens bleed. Yep, SUPERMAN bleeding without kryptonite being used.. that tells me that we are dealing with an incredible amount of force. Because of that I had no problem with surrounding damage, impalement and broken impaling device.
I usually pick this stuff apart but this scene fit within the TV/Comic mythos that they have established here and did not detract from the story. (imo)

Good thread tho, I like seeing stuff like this discussed.

As for the character TITAN. He seems to be an amalgam of different characters from the DC universe (as well as some similarities to some Marvel characters). As far as the CW is concerned, he was a being 'designed' for combat that was uncontrollable and therefor incarcerated by the Kryptonian Judicial System in the Phantom zone. As with many 'Zoners' we have seen this season, his origin is somewhat vague.
Putting myself in his shoes.. If I spent time in a Chinese prison, it would not be that strange to have a Chinese Character tattooed on my arm. So I would not be surprised if his ancestry was other than Kryptonian.

My own thoughts on the character:
There have been several characters referred to as a TITAN or TITANS (plural) in comic history. In the Marvel Universe there is an ancient race of powerful beings known only as Titans. It may be a stretch but his name in this episode could be referring to his race. Personally he reminded me of a warrior that may herald from Apokolips. There have been several characters created over the years that have used harder than bone or bone-like protrusions in combat. Mostly a Marvel thing with characters like Spike, Marrow and Wolverine.. even Spiderman used a strange stinger that came out of his forearm a few years back when he was going through some 'changes'. As I said before, I think Smallville created a great Amalgam character with many comic-type connections that was a fun match up for Kal-El.

I really like when Clark cuts loose in this series. I hope we see more of it before the season ends. oh.. and a visit from Hal Jordan. :P

[SSJConan]

[i]I really like when Clark cuts loose in this series. I hope we see more of it before the season ends. oh.. and a visit from Hal Jordan. :P [/B]

Clark's Granddad does live in Coast City, maybeee...:D

[wraith808]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Um I don't think that is the question to ask IMO

The question should be how did Titan got stabbed with his spike...

I mean look how he landed on that arm... yes I can understand the Spike breaking...

what I don't get there is no way for that spike to hit the ground snap, and then move straight up in order to stab Titan...

Never say "no way" when referring to combat and physical movement. I have two MEs for friends, and they disabused me of the notion that any of that makes a difference in a fight... or anything that has to do with physics and the relationship of objects in fact, other than proven theories.