View Full Version : How would the justice league fare against titan?
jazzylg
03-22-2007, 07:45 PM
Of course, this is without clark. Umm I know what I think..heh heh..
angeloo
03-22-2007, 07:51 PM
flash...enough said
Krypton935
03-22-2007, 07:53 PM
they would get their cans kicked then call clark. Like with doomsday the entire league was up aginst him. in the end everyone was down and supes was left. he killed him but got killed in the process. YEAH
bl24ndon
03-22-2007, 07:54 PM
Lmao... lead him to the water so aquaman could take advantage... Don't know if you were joking or being serious.
jazzylg
03-22-2007, 08:10 PM
Dead serious. If you know about aquaman, he's nearly unbeatable, (like namor the submariner in marvel vs hulk) in the water. That being said, supes would still clean his clock.
wolverine316
03-22-2007, 08:23 PM
As smug as Green Arrow is they would all get their asses whipped. Clark would have to swoop in to save all of them.
Meteror Freak
03-22-2007, 08:28 PM
I voted for the aquaman option. :lol: But Aquaman doesn't have to be in the water. In justice he took on like 10 men at a time, we just didn't see how he did it.
Thil_EL
03-22-2007, 08:41 PM
ok aquaman and green arrow wouldn't stand a chance cuz they are not indestructible..
flash might be able to do something with his speed to stop titan and cyborg can probably take him down, since he's pretty powerful, but seeing how strong he was they will have to call ck
angeloo
03-22-2007, 08:44 PM
flash could easily beat titan... he can move a lottttt faster then clark can and speed=power even tho they made flash get caught twice.. which would never happen
msleggie
03-22-2007, 09:17 PM
the league would have beat the crap out of titan, oh yeah!
Ilovebeinglost
03-22-2007, 09:55 PM
I'd say they said a pretty good chance since he's dead now,
SVTpat
03-22-2007, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by angeloo
flash could easily beat titan... he can move a lottttt faster then clark can and speed=power even tho they made flash get caught twice.. which would never happen
What the hell is running circles around Titan going to do? JL would have gotten owned... badly. Green Arrow.. wouldn't even touch him. Aquaman.. eh, kinda strong but not Superman. Cyborg, he could hold his own until a big shot, then he breaks and is out of the fight.
Jetta
03-22-2007, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by angeloo
flash could easily beat titan... he can move a lottttt faster then clark can and speed=power even tho they made flash get caught twice.. which would never happen
I don't know what logic you are using. Sure flash is fast, but that would just help him not get hit. There is absolutely nothing he could do to harm Titan, unless there was some exploitable hidden weakness. Arrow's arrows would have been worthless, Cyborg is strong by human standards, but is nothing by Phantom Zone standards. Aquaman probably would have lasted the longest, but he would only be delaying the inevitable.
angeloo
03-22-2007, 10:46 PM
imagine getting hit way faster and way more times that would hurt, it wouldnt be powerful to knock him back but would probably cause the same pain as any punch superman can do, and titan would be to slow to hit flash btw flash is my favorite jl person and i think he can beat superman so... u dont have to listen to what i say =D
Jetta
03-22-2007, 11:00 PM
^ Relative densities matter, if Flash hit Titan at high speed, then Flash would literally be splattered against Titan's chest.
defga
03-22-2007, 11:08 PM
ironic. When they're fighting Lex's weak security team, Clark is out of commission, but when the greatest threat of all arises, Clark beats him senseless.
Jetta
03-22-2007, 11:20 PM
^ Hehe, its funny 'cause its true!
BABarracus
03-22-2007, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by Jetta
I don't know what logic you are using. Sure flash is fast, but that would just help him not get hit. There is absolutely nothing he could do to harm Titan, unless there was some exploitable hidden weakness. Arrow's arrows would have been worthless, Cyborg is strong by human standards, but is nothing by Phantom Zone standards. Aquaman probably would have lasted the longest, but he would only be delaying the inevitable. his logic is probly you gain mass when you gain speed
angeloo
03-22-2007, 11:28 PM
kindve dont really want to get into that... also aquaman would wreck titan in water lol aquaman is superman in water but better because not as many people are powerful in water as on land
Raith
03-23-2007, 12:13 AM
Pikachu, I choose you!
planetd
03-23-2007, 01:39 AM
league wins hands down...5 characters besides superman,I would be hard pressed to believe each one could NOT beat Titan on their own
1. Green Latern (john stewart would take a while, but hal jordan would own)
2. Wonder Woman (at least in the cartoon, she kept up in battle against supes)
3. Martian Manhunter, b/c everybody forgets he has super strength and can do the whole phasing thing, as well as the dragon bit too
4. Batman, b/c he finds ways to own everyone. So he will find some molecular issue with titan, and take him down.
5. Aquaman, for reasons already mentioned
Supersingh007
03-23-2007, 05:54 AM
yeah everyone apart from clark would have got owned...but im WELL confused...kal-el does not bleed!!! unless its kryptonite...i know someone is gonna say but titan was phantom zoner etc etc..but superman shouldnt bleed!
Peat Moss
03-23-2007, 06:21 AM
SV JL, no. JL including WW and MM, by a landslide.
Also, I don't know much of the comics, but I belive SM is not 100% invulnerable, just very strong. Someone as strong or stronger than he can break the skin. that's why other Kryptonians can hurt him.
CyberDramon
03-23-2007, 07:26 AM
If a CD gets caught in a tornado and thrown out at high speed, it can cut into a tree. Air also has pressure, so compacted air moving fast enough can harm (the logic behind an air gun, if I'm not mistaken).
Flash could have avoided Titan's punches near a wall to get some of the concrete in smaller pieces. Then he could have thrown that concrete at incredibly high speeds, which would have might have cut Titan, o at least bruised him. Keep up a birrage of small hits long enough and they do as much damage as a few big hits.
Flash could also have almost-punched Titan, letting the resulting air pressure hit Titan instead of his own fist. Air itself can also cut if it's moving fast enough, which should have been at least enough to bruise Titan.
Flash could also have made a small tornado to lift Titan off the ground and eliminate his mobility (possibly brining him into the air and dropping him a few times), which might have also defeated Titan.
Technique would have to be heavily relied upon for Flash to beat Titan, but it wouldn't have been impossible. If he could avoid being hit, I think he could hold his own.
If I recall correctly, Titan's bony spike was still intact just before he hit the concrete, and then somehow broke off and stuck him in the chest... Which means that either Clark hit him hard enough to crack the bone before it broke off, or the bone broke off when it hit the concrete (and I don't remember seeing much damage to the floor). This tells me that while Titan was strong, and could probably have damaged Clarks organs enough to kill him, it would have taken quite a few hits to break Clark's bones compaired to the bone-breaking power Clark has. In the comics, Clark is always holding back, even against the super-villians. Think Darkseid was one of the first bad guys Clark didn't hold back on.
bobser
03-23-2007, 07:33 AM
Yeah, there are some threats where you need "the big gun", ie Clark. Titan would have been one of them.
Though if you fill a kiddie-pool up with some water, you never know about that rascally Aquaman. He just may be able to take Titan.
guyin916
03-23-2007, 08:11 AM
green arrow knows of clark's weakness in smallville, right? so couldn't he just use it again titan?
i'm just very glad that nobody came in with kryptonite to save the day.
Mischael12
03-23-2007, 08:24 AM
It might not have won against Titan, the flash can punch fast, but even in the cartoons and comics, against someone who has enough strength to at least equal superman it doesn't matter.
Air pressure has enough strength, but Flashes fist won't push the air, more then likely he would create a sonic boom, and hope that the wave from that would knock titan back.
Superman is invulnerable, that is the description given when regarding him, now that of course has been tested, but it seems from normal beings not of alien descent the most they can do is startle him or at least push him back, but actually cause him pain is rather hard to do.
auctionmonster
03-23-2007, 09:50 AM
Actually if flash wanted to kill titan, all he would have to his vibrate his molecules at supersonic speeds and he could reach his hand through titan and rip out his heart. That of course requires that while he is doing this that titan doesn't just clap his hands oh flash's head splattering brain matter everywhere.
BrianD
03-23-2007, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by defga
ironic. When they're fighting Lex's weak security team, Clark is out of commission, but when the greatest threat of all arises, Clark beats him senseless.
LMAO! so freakin true. clark is undoubtly the most gifted of the JL. of course thats why he was always the leader and founder.
DarthJay
03-23-2007, 10:09 AM
Martian Manhunter would have put up a good fight, until Clark started the fire on the computers with his heat vision....then MM would have run out the room screaming like a little girl.
:)
auctionmonster
03-23-2007, 10:10 AM
I honestly kept expecting martian manhunter to show up and save clarks butt
angeloo
03-23-2007, 10:15 AM
just look at episode divided we fall from JLU... brainiac/lex have super strength with armour and look what flash does to it lol
dru-zod2501
03-23-2007, 10:24 AM
Titan vs. Ollie's superpals?
2 words: Papa. Spank.
Mischael12
03-23-2007, 12:24 PM
At that time the Flash was using the SPeed FOrce, so he was basically traveling at a point faster then light.
Peat Moss
03-23-2007, 04:40 PM
(1) Titan wasn't kryptonian. He was presumably made by some other race as a fighter.
(2) A penny CANNOT pierce concrete when dropped from a building. Force is mass times acceleration, and without enough mass, you need a lot of acceleration. Maybe Flash could get it, but as far as i know, we never see Flash doing super-punches, or fighting uber-strong foes on his own. Besides--this is Kid Flash. He doesn't know how to do most of the cool stuff--just running fast.
clark85
03-23-2007, 04:41 PM
the thing with clark/superman is that he never uses his powers properly, hes got so many special powers but always seems to use one at a time.
think about it he can notice a bullet coming towards him and move out its way as if someone was throwing feathers at him but he cant even dodge hits from titan who is massive and im asuming alot slower then him.
if ck used his powers properly he would trully be unstoppable, he seems to just rely on his strengh rather then anything else.
man of steel37013
03-23-2007, 04:53 PM
First off Titan was not Doomsday by any means Doomsday would have killed him with one punch!! Secondly someone on here said that Doomsday was killed by Superman that was not true Superman only knocked him out pretty good but did not kill him!! And only maybe Cyborg would have been able to hold his own somewhat against Titan. Green Arrow would get beaten bad and so would fish boy!! only thing flash could do is run around him he has no strength
Mischael12
03-23-2007, 09:04 PM
They killed each other, Doomsday technically can't die, since his any part of his cells can be used to grow a new one.
freefall
03-24-2007, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by auctionmonster
I honestly kept expecting martian manhunter to show up and save clarks butt
Considering now that we know MM is indeed watching over him, I bet he's standing in the sidelines witnessing Clark and Titan trying to own each other. He's probably feeling very proud of Clark with his impressive moves and punches against Titan, unlike in Static.
j-kent
03-26-2007, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by Peat Moss
(1) Titan wasn't kryptonian. He was presumably made by some other race as a fighter.
(2) A penny CANNOT pierce concrete when dropped from a building. Force is mass times acceleration, and without enough mass, you need a lot of acceleration. Maybe Flash could get it, but as far as i know, we never see Flash doing super-punches, or fighting uber-strong foes on his own. Besides--this is Kid Flash. He doesn't know how to do most of the cool stuff--just running fast.
exactly right peat moss. if impulse were able to even attempt this he would merely knock Titan off balance at the most, all the while hurting himself as he is not durable himself.
Flash/Impusle has been seen to use this super speed punch and it can generate alot more force than a normal punch, but the damage is only by means of human levels. Alien invulnerability is another story.
Originally posted by clark85
the thing with clark/superman is that he never uses his powers properly, hes got so many special powers but always seems to use one at a time.
think about it he can notice a bullet coming towards him and move out its way as if someone was throwing feathers at him but he cant even dodge hits from titan who is massive and im asuming alot slower then him.
if ck used his powers properly he would trully be unstoppable, he seems to just rely on his strengh rather then anything else.
you have a very valid statement. I think alot of the Superman continuations bypass this superspeed and super "awareness & reaction" when he's a fight with opponents who seemingly match his strength so that he won't be completely untouchable and undefeatable. I think it would be boring to watch him dodge everything anyway- that's Flash's job (to do it in style) :D .
Mr. Wrong
03-26-2007, 08:31 AM
CK uses Marquis of Queensbury rules when fighting anyone. Otherwise he could have simply stood back and fried Titan with his heat vision. He is not a killer and considering Superman's invulnerability, I'm surprised that any punch could phase him. After all, this is a man that could withstand a nuclear explosion. How could a mere punch knock him out? The JLA at this point would not have stood a chance against TITAN.
Sweetie
03-26-2007, 01:06 PM
C.K would have save the day.I like the way he fighted Titan.
dr feelgood
03-27-2007, 03:44 PM
the flash could kill titan. you know, he can run through solid objects and make them explode..
we would have a big "titan explosion" :)
jimmyolsenblues
03-27-2007, 03:47 PM
this really isn't a fair fight.
titan would not break a sweat.
and that is not a knock against the JLA.
They are better against lex & 33.1
But titan is universe class, and clark was in a bad mood to begin with looking for fight.
I loved the episode.
wilder
04-01-2007, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Jetta
Arrow's arrows would have been worthless
Who told you that? Titan is strong and tough, but he isnt from steel and he could be harmed by arrow. Especially by Green Arrow's arrow (some explosive stuff)
But. After first arrow he would take care of the archer, so this one arrow must be really special to take him down.
Nam-Ek2
04-01-2007, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Meteror Freak
I voted for the aquaman option. :lol: But Aquaman doesn't have to be in the water. In justice he took on like 10 men at a time, we just didn't see how he did it.
Yer, cause he was wet
water gives him strength
Everyone is thinking of wild theories of how flash could beat him
face it, the flash in SV is a pretty dumb little kid
he would have no idea what to do
tippership commander
04-03-2007, 02:23 PM
alright, all Flash has t odo ( and by the way, The Flash has trouble beating Clark at full speed, now that we've seen Clark Match his acceleration rate{glowing when headed t oHonduras} is pick up a rock, or take off his shoe, and throw it in near-trans-faster than light speeds, and titan is our for the count....also, Clark was toying with him, Titan can't move fast at all...Clark only needed to heat vision him t odeath, or focus his super breath and blow a hole thru him..back to topic, Green arrow has gas arrows, and besides, hit titan in the eye( b ythe way, look how Clark got "cough Kane's cough" choke slam) ( he took it pretty well) Cyborg...he pushed guards at super spee,d and Queen industries upgraded him anyway...Aquaman...good one...can Titan swim? haha...and Aquaman ( though he's the slowest superspeeder in Smallville) can use speed in water...seems thats all eh can do, other than water jet attacks...Cyborg should be able to hold up....GL is in a bix of a fix...more than Aquaman...but i imagine you can't laugh off 20 arrows in your eye(or other places) i voted they could take him down without Clark, since all Flash has to do is pick up a rock, throw it in super speed, or take one of the guard's guns, shoot it in hypertime, to increase the ignition of the gunpowder speed, and blow titan's brains out ...the Flash would be best in position to kill Titan( lets rate them from best to lowest) after clark, then comes Cyborg, his strength does COUNT for quite a bit, just about ( although only when he's lazy) matching clark in power...then GL and Aquaman aka Fishstick would be at a tie, unless aquaman actually does have some sort of strength, and/or if he was in water ...Gl...poor Ollie...use his knockout gas...if it works......so its #1 clark, or seperate, then #1 Bart, #2 Cyborg #3 Aquaman( Maybe, if he's on land, he better pull out a new trick or else he ties at #4 ...and Ollie at #4
oh, the density thing....since Cyborg can throw things into superspeed, throw a big piece of wall, or object at titan
..its gonna knock him around...as fas as mass....don't you gain mass as you increase speed? even if that idea doesn't work, there are a Million other ways Bart can easily mop the floor wit hhim...hm, thats an idea, use a mop in super speed, HAHAHAHhahahahha :D :D ;)
Peat Moss
04-05-2007, 06:21 AM
Air resistance causes all objects to have a terminal velocity. They won't go faster than that naturally. Bart could probably propel a rock faster than that, but even so, Force is mass times acceleration, and rocks don't have enough mass. Not for Titan. If Clark had trouble making Titan bleed, I doubt one of GL's arrows or a superfast rock from Flash could do it. In water, Aquaman would win. Aparently he could beat anyone in water, to make up for his uselessness on land. Cyborg is strong, but not like Clark. And where to people get the idea that mechanical parts are invincible? Anyway, I think Cyborg would get broken pretty quickly. With Clark, obviously they would win; he won on his own. Modern-day Justice League would dispatch him in seconds, without damaging the building or causing permanent damage to Titan. But the Junior JL? They might have a chance, but they would certainly not "own" him.
tippership commander
04-06-2007, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Peat Moss
Air resistance causes all objects to have a terminal velocity. They won't go faster than that naturally. Bart could probably propel a rock faster than that, but even so, Force is mass times acceleration, and rocks don't have enough mass. Not for Titan. If Clark had trouble making Titan bleed, I doubt one of GL's arrows or a superfast rock from Flash could do it. In water, Aquaman would win. Aparently he could beat anyone in water, to make up for his uselessness on land. Cyborg is strong, but not like Clark. And where to people get the idea that mechanical parts are invincible? Anyway, I think Cyborg would get broken pretty quickly. With Clark, obviously they would win; he won on his own.
:eek: hold it.. Excuse me, but Cyborg's strength does count for something...,And as far as rocks approaching the speed of light...even Clark would "feel " it...lets not forget that Clark's managed to hurt titan after a good effort, but he WAS NOT using speed, and Mechanical parts...who said they were invincible? titan isn't invincible, and no one said Cyborg was......alright, rocks don't have enough mass....:rolleyes: At speeds that flash travels, lets see...don't objects gain near infinite mass when going at that speed? thats surely more than (at least a bit) when Clark attacked him{ excluding his possible "superpunch"}..
-so if you speed up a rock enopugh, you can overcome that...and getting off ROCKS, he could use many other things.... perhaps he could rip off that blade which nearly killed clark, by pulling on in in super time, then chuck it at Titan like Clark did to Mr Fine, that's a pretty good idea..
and lets not forget GA's knockout gas...other than that, i agree with you on a arrow killing Titan, can someone explain to me how Aquaman is going to beat TItan:rolleyes: in water? All we've seen is superspeed, and a little bit of superstrength...
Alright, so we have Bart, who has questionable strength, Aquaman with strength in water, and Cyborg , who clearly has decent power
Lets make Cyborg water proof, then have the battle somehow end up in water, and teach Bart to superspeed when swimming, and hope to god that GA can shoot arrows under water( which can't happen), and then the JL can take titan....GA is so useless against titan, unless he pulls a fast one with his gas arrows, or if his arrows enter superspeed when shot( they matched Lex's bullet distance for distance in the other episode, so maybe he shoots in superspeed with special arrows), oh wait, bullets move at Mach 3, so GL's gonna need a particle, er:D arrow accelerator to do that
how much does air resistance count at speeds close to light? it doesnt
You said that Cyborg is strong , but not like Clark....Clark isnt' at full power yet, and this Cyborg seems to have strength BARELY less than Clark,
Finally,
Modern-day Justice League would dispatch him in seconds, without damaging the building or causing permanent damage to Titan. But the Junior JL? They might have a chance, but they would certainly not "own" him. , i think i agree here, but it wouldn't be the hardest thing.. once you consider all the Juinor's ablities... first off, lets look at Titan, he isn't going to hit Bart, Aquaman, on land, ....he will end up being a "Fishstick" "maybe"...i won't count him out...Cyborg...you should give him more credit, he's no weakling, don't forget he pushed Clark by accident once, TItan's going to have to do better than what we saw, ot match his strength, buy ANYWAY, Cyborg is going t have problems if it becomes a "punch for punch" fight...if he can survive his chokeslam, he's pretty good off, Titan will have to hit a weak point, or think of some smart way to stop him, Green Arrw, better make like Batman would, and use his arrow rpoe thing to pull himself higher, and hope for a cheapout like his gas, or hope he has arorws that enter acceeleration mode, ...Titan, can pick him up and play volleyball with him, otherwise, and one hit will knock him silly i hope that Green Arrow can do more, i feel sad for Oliver, everyone else has strength( a iffy for Bart, ) and speed( what's aquaman speed gonna do in water?) {{{Cyborg can't dodge well since he has nothign to do with speed...}}} , HOLD IT. hit the brakes, he can Propel things into superspeed, perhaps he can propel himself into speedmode ( i don't know how he would, Any ideas?, ...:confused:
too bad we dont have GL, im mean not GA(Green Lanten) oh, John Stewart isn't a weak lantern, he's pretty good, it wouldnot be diffucllt, so whoever said he'd have issues beating up Titan hasn't seen him fight :mad:
Can;t say anything about Clark..
Peat Moss
04-07-2007, 05:07 PM
how much does air resistance count at speeds close to light? it doesnt
I'm not sure, but I don't think it can get to the speed of light because of this air resistence. That may just apply to gravity though.
At speeds that flash travels, lets see...don't objects gain near infinite mass when going at that speed?
Could someone verify that? I find it hard to believe that objects actually gain mass. If it's true, I apologize.
Mechanical parts...who said they were invincible
True, but it was pretty easy to injure him in the shoulder. Titan only has to happen to hit there--or any other vulnerable point.
However, it's hard to have physics discussions with superpowers. Maybe they could beat him, but it would be a long shot.
norman619
04-08-2007, 04:47 PM
Err... no...
There was nothing really special about Titan. We was an amped up brawler. He showed no real combat skill. He wasn't Kryptonian either. He didn't even show much intelligence. When I saw him in action I kept expecting him to say "MONGO SMASH!!!" What I don't get is how can Clark have gotten hurt by him.. How can this guy draw blood? There was no Kryptonite in the area. Even if he WERE a Kryptonian, which he wasn't, they wouldn't be able to hurt eachother. All they would be able to do is throw eachother around. This Titan guy wouldn't even be a light snack to the Martian.
Originally posted by Peat Moss
Air resistance causes all objects to have a terminal velocity. They won't go faster than that naturally. Bart could probably propel a rock faster than that, but even so, Force is mass times acceleration, and rocks don't have enough mass. Not for Titan.
LOL!!! Dude, I can shoot a pencil through titanium if I could give it enough velocity. A rail gun can do this really easily which is why the military is building them. You can shoot cheap metal bits so fast that they pretty much will punch through any kind of armor as if it weren't even there. All Flash needs to do and charge him at his top speed and Titan would feel it. Again Titan was NOT a Kryptonian. A clue to this fact was his calling Clark a Krytonian. Kinda odd for beings from the same place to refer to each other like that.
But any way this episode had lots of problems. How can Titan hurt Clark when another Krptonian couldn't? And what about the autopsy on Titan? If he were as tough as a Kryptonian they shouldn't have been able to do one.
Peat Moss
04-09-2007, 06:23 AM
(1) Can you post a video of shooting a pencil through Titanium? Watch Mythbusters--without enough mass no matter how much velocity you have, you won't get enough force. And a pencil would break, anyway. Maybe, MAYBE, Flash could throw something at Titan. He definately couldn't run at him--because the force he gave Titan would hit himself (for every action is an equal and opposite reaction) and enough force to hurt Titan would kill Flash, since his strength is average for a human.
(2) Clark doesn't need Kryptonite to be hurt. Zod DID make him bleed. Have you read the rest of this thread? Superman is not invincible--just nearly so. He can bleed if hit with enough force. You're using circular reasoning. You're saying Titan wasn't strong because he couldn't hurt Clark, and he shouldn't have been able to hurt Clark because he wasn't strong!
Anyone strong enough to hurt Clark, can do so. Kryptonians aren't the strongest race in the world, but they are really strong. So if he's strong enough to hurt Clark, Titan's pretty strong, IMO.
norman619
04-09-2007, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Peat Moss
(1) Can you post a video of shooting a pencil through Titanium? Watch Mythbusters--without enough mass no matter how much velocity you have, you won't get enough force. And a pencil would break, anyway. Maybe, MAYBE, Flash could throw something at Titan. He definately couldn't run at him--because the force he gave Titan would hit himself (for every action is an equal and opposite reaction) and enough force to hurt Titan would kill Flash, since his strength is average for a human.
(2) Clark doesn't need Kryptonite to be hurt. Zod DID make him bleed. Have you read the rest of this thread? Superman is not invincible--just nearly so. He can bleed if hit with enough force. You're using circular reasoning. You're saying Titan wasn't strong because he couldn't hurt Clark, and he shouldn't have been able to hurt Clark because he wasn't strong!
Anyone strong enough to hurt Clark, can do so. Kryptonians aren't the strongest race in the world, but they are really strong. So if he's strong enough to hurt Clark, Titan's pretty strong, IMO.
Remember the faster an object is going the more massive it becomes. Remember the whole problem of trying to travel faster than light? As an object approaches the speed of light it's mass increases and at the speed of light it's mass is infinite which would require an unimaginable amount of power to accellerate it any further. So YES you can shoot a pencil through pretty much anything. I'm pretty sure the guys at Myth Busters don't have the equipment needed to move any object to the needed seed to do what we are talking baout. It's basic physics. :)
Sorry but if you watched the movie where Zod and crew took on Superman they were unable to hurt each other. They had to threaten his main squeez to force him to do what hey wanted. Superman and any other Kryptonian who visits our system is nigh-invulnerable. Outside the influence of our yellow sun they are just as vulnerable as you or I. The power Clark has isn't natural. It's a result of exposure. Much like taking LSD makes some people unbelievably strong. Oh and Flash's strengt isn't average. It takes power to move as fast as he does and throw things as fast as he does. Ask any pro baseball pitcher. Oh! Almost forgot. If I remember correctly the only race which could supposedly challenge a Kryptonian was Lobo's race the Czarnians. I'm not sure tho about that. :-) It woud be cool to have Lobo stop in and make an appearance.
Peat Moss
04-10-2007, 07:18 PM
Flash has strength? Yes, it seems like super-speed would require super-strength. But based on the comics, does he have super-strength?
Superman mythology differs greatly. And IN SMALLVILLE, Kryptonians can make each other bleed. Zod/Lex made Clark's nose bleed punching him in the face.
Even if a pencil was able to go that fast, with that much force it would break. It couldn't get stronger.
Do we ever see Flash throwing things with super force in the comics? We don't even know if he can throw things fast, he can only go fast himself. If he threw a rock, the best it could get would be a bullet, which I doubt would hurt Titan much. Clark barely hurt him--a bullet would be much less.
Yes, Mythbusters is just a TV show, but the guys on it are trained in physics, and a lot of what people consider "basic physics" is a mix between truth and fiction. People think pennies can break through concrete, but they can't because they can't reach speeds high enough to make up for their mass. Same with a straw--it can't go through a tree because it breaks. I admit I have only a rudimentary understanding of physics, but since Flash has not used this technique in my knowledge, I don't think he could do it.
tippership commander
04-11-2007, 05:15 AM
In any case, we're talking about how the Jl is gonna fight Titan... and you care to tell me how Titans' going to survive that? i thought i heard somewere he isn't kryptonian....
How is Aquaman going to beat him, once they are in water?
Of course he can propel it that fash, he carried a backpack at superspeed, so at those speeds, he could slip it off and chuck it....the backpack could finish titan.... see no on e talked about GL's gas arrows....:D
Peat Moss
04-11-2007, 06:24 AM
Actually, they have. If GL could get off a shot, and if Titan was vulnerable to gas, he could do it. But like Flash, one hit from Titan and he's dead.
The fact that Titan "isn't Kryptonian" doesn't mean he's easy to beat. Other races are as strong or stronger than Kryptonians. Titan himself seemed a little stronger than Clark, or at least at his level.
Tha backpack wouldn't finish Titan--it would blow apart. Again, not enough mass.
If they are in water, yes Aquaman would probably win. That's a big if. On land, Aquaman gets owned.
tippership commander
04-13-2007, 07:46 AM
...i cant' styop putting GL instead of GA..... it's green ARROW ,aftr all ....now...lets go to drastic measures.......have flash speed up to him in sperspeed, then grab the blade, then pull and run hard.....at that speed...that will do damage to tian...and since he slowly(in hypertime) grabbed his arm , he can bring his strength to bear, and the speed+ increased mass effect will help.......Why am i the only one supporting FLash? no one else is even thinking up ways, and a concept i beleive is that nothing is impossible, so i won't try to be biased....but...i guess those who think the JL has a chance would rather have Clark singlehandedly d oit....
I asked HOW Aquaman beats titan, once i nwater...what's he gonna gdo with his water current attack ,and slow superspeed?
Peat Moss
04-13-2007, 05:33 PM
Yeah, I meant GA too....
As for Aquaman, he is strong in water too, and could just hold Titan under until he drowned. But Titan has to get underwater first.
I'm starting to think maybe Flash could have done it, but it wouldn't have been easy. I guess with them all coming at once, Titan's slow reflexes (and brain) couldn't handle it. I actually think I'm changing my stance to say they could do it. It would be difficult though, and stretch them each to their limits.
dr feelgood
04-13-2007, 05:33 PM
am i the only hardcore the flash fan in here ? :)
flash can throw things at light speed. do you guys remember the JL cartoon episode, the one that superman was under a spell and he lost control of himself ? flash threw lots of rocks at him and he kinda stopped superman attacking him..
flash does not have super strength but he has super speed. with speed force a tiny solid object can become very strong. for example, if you throw a bullet with your hands you cant hurt any1. but with a gun, you can kill people..
not a good example but you got what i mean :)
Peat Moss
04-14-2007, 10:57 AM
Finally, someone gave actual evidence of Flash throwing things! I figured that if Flash could use superspeed to throw things lethally, he would have done so. And apparently he did! Thank you for clearing that up.
AlinaKitty1988
04-15-2007, 08:59 AM
I think that Ck is the only one who can beat Titan Sure Flash is fast but hes not strong But the important thing is that Titan is already dead so.... the Justice League can't fight a dead guy :))
Smallvillefan56
04-17-2007, 08:58 AM
ok clark had a hard time beating titian no chance will and of the JL be able to beat him without clark's help
Peat Moss
04-17-2007, 06:57 PM
I bet they can beat him now though--if they can get him from Lex...
TKFlash
04-21-2007, 09:57 AM
If they were well organized yeah, they could win. If they just started fighting, its titan. Cyborg and Aquaman would have the best chance.
Its seems that there are three levels to powers in the show:
Aliens
Non-Freaks( like bart and cyborg)
Meteor freaks
The show goes about like meteor freaks will never ever be able to take on aliens and win and thats cold. According to the show, Clark is nigh-unbeatable by anybody but aliens and thats stupid because they are down-grading the others with powers. They should make a MF or Non Freak that is at least as powerful as Clark because having every being that beats Clark being an alien in this show is short sighted..
tippership commander
04-21-2007, 04:12 PM
well, I disagree with this notion that Clark is necessary for them to win anD iT turns out it wont be aLL That easy for titan to h it them bart can pull a buddy out of the way if needed :D
Peat Moss
04-21-2007, 05:11 PM
No, here's the rock-paper-scissors of SV powers--
Magic beats Alien.
Alien beats Science.
Science beats Magic.
SheaMan
04-22-2007, 05:16 PM
The only one who stands a chance is Impulse. Well - maybe Cyborg. Aquaman ... in a long shot.. but Green Arrow? Poor Ollie woulda been snaped like a twig.
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