Does Lex now suspect that Naman is on Earth?

[xrayvision]

OK, now Lex knows that Titan killed some of the toughest meteor freaks from Belle Reve and that it had to be one tough SOB that killed him. Do you think he knows that it had to be another alien, namely Naman who he knows is destined to be his enemy or perhaps a much tougher meteor freak? Please vote.

I don't think they will have Lex suspect Naman's presence until next season, so I voted no.

[dave73085]

option C, they will probably never bring back the concept of Naman or anything to do with the caves or seasons before 5...as much as I would like that

[dunkman]

They haven't brought up the cave drawings or the "prophesies" for a long time, but they'll have to get back to all that soon.

[warriorrenegade]

Honestly I don't believe Lex is thinking of Naman...atleast not consciously. He knows what killed him to be like you said one tough SOB. Hes maybe thinking of the JL has some involvement or one of their followers perhaps, just not Naman.

[Krypton935]

I think that everyone hasa forgotten Naman for the most part. I think that lex may have his suspicions about clark and the jr JL.

[SuperFan85]

I think the purpose of Lex discovering Titan was an alien is to further reinforce Lex's belief that Aliens are still a threat to Earth, and that this further proof, and that he needs to continue with his meteor freak army to fight against these invading Aliens, that are threatening humanity.

[angeloo]

didnt one of the previews or trailers have lex looking at the fight on his computer..? or i was seeing things

[SuperFan85]

it was the way it was edited in the trailer

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by angeloo
didnt one of the previews or trailers have lex looking at the fight on his computer..? or i was seeing things

Nevermind I read your quote wrong...my bad:D

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by dunkman
They haven't brought up the cave drawings or the "prophesies" for a long time, but they'll have to get back to all that soon.

Don't count on it. The cave set is gone.

[alienkinfolk]

I would be shocked if tptb returned to the caves and the Naman story. I really liked that angle but I think with this new network,and with this new target audience they may not want to re-open the caves or tread too far backwards.
I just wish they would.

[Odysseus]

Originally posted by alienkinfolk
I would be shocked if tptb returned to the caves and the Naman story. I really liked that angle but I think with this new network,and with this new target audience they may not want to re-open the caves or tread too far backwards.
I just wish they would.

I agree on all points.

I do think Lex definitely suspects Naman has arrived on Earth. (although he doesnt realize Naman has been in front of him the whole time) The look on his face at the thought of Titan not being human definitely spelled "alien" in his mind. Now of course, Lex obviously remembers the Kryptonians from "Arrival" and of course General Zod, so Lex probably suspects that if they arrived on earth and if Titan was an alien, there are probably more aliens on earth.

So I think he at least is clued in that Naman "might" be an alien.

[Xavieryz]

they will have to bring back that caves if they want him to get back to the FOS,

that was his portal, or they will probably just having him run to the arctic

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Odysseus
So I think he at least is clued in that Naman "might" be an alien.

Well, he better if he believes the prophecy in which Naman falls from the sky in a rain of fire. I don't know of too many non-aliens who arrive that way. From the rain of fire part, Lex should know that Naman had arrived either during the 1st or 2nd meteor shower. Though, he could think that one of Zod's disciples is Naman.


Originally posted by Xavieryz
they will have to bring back that caves if they want him to get back to the FOS,

that was his portal, or they will probably just having him run to the arctic

Well, they could always skip the part in which he gets there as they have done laltely, but I'd rather see the cave. If the cave is totally gone, then we'll never see the octagonal key again.

[christian_kryptonian]

I think Naman will nost definately be played back into the story in one of the future episodes. Look at the spoilers if you need hints. They have bought A LOT back this season. Aunt Nell? Shelby(lol)? The even mentioned Milton Fine(*gasp* a gest from last season). Don't count the mentioning of Naman out people.

[Dark_Superman]

maybe "nemesis" in which lex and clark get trapped in the cave is our so very loved cave that gets clark to the fortress.... and maybe the door way to the portal gets blasted shut to or something... who knows

[hassenmorad]

Well, does Lex even know that he's Segeith? I don't think so. Clark is only aware of that possibility because he knows that he is Naman. Lex wouldn't have the slightest clue.

[Farm_Girl]

Yes, but Lex did mention in Talisman to Clark that what if Segeeth is the hero? So he does consider himself something like Segeeth!

[Heilige]

Originally posted by Farm_Girl
Yes, but Lex did mention in Talisman to Clark that what if Segeeth is the hero? So he does consider himself something like Segeeth!

But that doesn't prove that he himself feels that he is Sageeth. It just mean he agrees with Sageeth's viewpoint.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by hassenmorad
Well, does Lex even know that he's Segeith? I don't think so. Clark is only aware of that possibility because he knows that he is Naman. Lex wouldn't have the slightest clue.

Yes he knows. He knows that when Sageeth would touch the starblade, that it would crumble. And that's exactly what happened in Talisman. He knows that it was him and not Lionel who touched it. The Frag Man told me that on the Australian DVD set, there is an additional deleted scene for Talisman in which Lex & Lionel are talking about how the starblade crumbled when Lex touched it. Man, I would love to see this. That episode had the best deleted scenes ever (the birthday party & this one). John Scheider should be brought back as a director several more times.

The Frag Man made a transcription of the lines between Lex & Lionel in that scene:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2868905#post2868905

[maxxx]

When is Lex taking over Area 51? The govt. probably wants their best friend Lex(aka: Industrial Military Complex) take over the R&D vis-a-vis the alien tech.

[Heilige]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Yes he knows. He knows that when Sageeth would touch the starblade, that it would crumble. And that's exactly what happened in Talisman. He knows that it was him and not Lionel who touched it. The Frag Man told me that on the Australian DVD set, there is an additional deleted scene for Talisman in which Lex & Lionel are talking about how the starblade crumbled when Lex touched it. Man, I would love to see this. That episode had the best deleted scenes ever (the birthday party & this one). John Scheider should be brought back as a director several more times.

The Frag Man made a transcription of the lines between Lex & Lionel in that scene:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2868905#post2868905


Deleted scenes don't really count in Smallville canon, right?

[Peat Moss]

I still wonder why Lex wasn't more excited about Titan's body. He put his life into the ship as proof for life on other planets, which at that point was still undetermined. Now he found an ALIEN'S BODY and he's just like, "Hmm." They better bring it up on the next episode. If Lex just forgets about this...

[xrayvision]

Because he already has proof. He saw the aliens in Arrival, live aliens. He also saw aliens way before in Rush (those parasites). He also saw alien technology that can change shape and replicate itself (Milton Fine).

Now that he has a body, maybe he can use the alien DNA to make his freaks stronger and grant them further powers. That is something that he should be excited about.

[SuperFan85]

But why would he want to give superpowered people he's all ready deemed dangerous, more powers? Unless he has some ultimate plan, where he'd be able to control his army somehow, but I dunno how he'd do that.

[Peat Moss]

He may have seen proof of aliens, but not any he could show to other people. And he became obsessed about the ship and the black box--why not an actual body of an alien himself?

[xrayvision]

He never had a chance to until now. Clark killed all of them. He killed Gloria. He sucked Zod & Baern in the crystal (and they were phantoms) while MM sucked the Dr. Hudson phantom in his crystal. Aldar was killed & disposed of and Lex didn't even know about him since he was in another dimension. Titan is the first humanoid alien body he has in his possession.

And he would never show it to anyone. If he did, the govt would be all over his ass and take everything away. It would also cause mass histeria. He wants to use their own biology so he can grant powers to himself or an army that would be able to fight them in case another invasion takes place.

[Peat Moss]

^^Exactly! So why didn't he seem happier?

It all comes down to what happens next. I'm just afraid they will drop this entirely and never bring it up again, which would be ridiculous. If they talk about it some more, i'll be satisfied.

[SuperFan85]

they won't drop the fact, that Titan's body has been recovered by Lex. seems to be a signifigant moment on the show for Lex. Plus, the continuity has really been good this season. So I expect, the fact that Lex has an Alien corpse in his possession to be brought up again before seasons end.

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
I still wonder why Lex wasn't more excited about Titan's body. He put his life into the ship as proof for life on other planets, which at that point was still undetermined. Now he found an ALIEN'S BODY and he's just like, "Hmm." They better bring it up on the next episode. If Lex just forgets about this...

Because he's not looking for proof of life on other planets to show other people. Knowledge is power, and he wouldn't share that with anyone. He's looking to study the aliens to find out whatever advanced technology/knowledge they have so he can use it for himself. He will add Titan's body to the 33.1 project to find out whatever he can for his own advantage. Just like he tried to do with the ship.

[Ginx]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Yes he knows. He knows that when Sageeth would touch the starblade, that it would crumble. And that's exactly what happened in Talisman. He knows that it was him and not Lionel who touched it. The Frag Man told me that on the Australian DVD set, there is an additional deleted scene for Talisman in which Lex & Lionel are talking about how the starblade crumbled when Lex touched it. Man, I would love to see this. That episode had the best deleted scenes ever (the birthday party & this one). John Scheider should be brought back as a director several more times.

The Frag Man made a transcription of the lines between Lex & Lionel in that scene:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2868905#post2868905

Thanks for the link. I think that maybe this was deleted for a reason - maybe to keep the audience guessing as to what really happened - so that it could be answered later on. I'm thinking it's overdue for the caves to make an appearance.


Originally posted by SuperFan85
But why would he want to give superpowered people he's all ready deemed dangerous, more powers? Unless he has some ultimate plan, where he'd be able to control his army somehow, but I dunno how he'd do that.

Well - from what I remember - there is at least one person who can control people in Lex's midst. Granted he lost his power but I seem to remember Lex saying something along the lines of 'nothing is ever lost' - you just never know with Lex - he might be slowly slipping into that he is the answer for saving everyone from Namon if he really believes that Segeeth is the hero of the story - maybe Lex doesn't know and maybe he does - either way, I'm certain of which way Lex will be siding when the time comes.

[Peat Moss]

If you're talking about Myx, here's my thoughts
I really, really hope Myx will come back. But judging from his role in Superman mythos, I don't think Myx will have the same power. Remember--his power before was not hypotism, it was control of fate and chance. That's how he could tell Clark to choke, even though people can't voluntarily close their breathing pathways. And since Myx is such an undefined villian, I hope we'll see a brand new power, and even the saying his name backwards to defeat him, thing.

[krpto]

Lex said in talisman that he is sageeth and his job is to stop naman from taking over/detroying the world.

[xrayvision]

^^He did not say it that directly, but that was the general meaning of what he said.

I wonder if resorting to 33.1 is Lex's way of showing that he completely dropped any interest he had on Clark (which seems like it's the case) and is instead preparing himself & the world for the coming of Naman (though he doesn't know that Naman is already here) so that he can protect himself & the world from a being with such powers.

I wonder if he suspects that Naman is already here from the 2nd meteor shower, or may come in a future meteor shower (or maybe he doesn't equate the legendary "rain of fire" from the prophecy to be a meteor shower). Perhaps he agrees with what Milton Fine told him in Hypnotic about the possibility of an alien presence and that Naman is hiding & living amongst normal people at this moment.

[kyl-el]

I don't think that they've dropped the idea of Naman completely. In "Labyrinth", we were shown all sorts of pieces of Clarks past when he was meeting with the psychiatrist/zoner. Like the jor-el handsoap and the phantom zone magazine....there were tons pieces from Clarks life. Most of them were from his recent past, but one of the names on the wall which were all supposed to be part of the "dream world" clark had created was "Naman". Now I might be reading into this a little bit too much. But, perhaps the used that piece of his past to hint at bringing back that part of the storyline. I know it's probably wishful thinking, but it would be pretty sweet.