Discuss Lois's Investigative Approach

[pleasenoclois]

This episode made me dislike Lois even more... if that's possible. Going through her cousin's trash? How low is THAT?!?! She could have been stealing Chloe's story for all she knew.
Gotta get back to Grey's right now. I have more to say about this though.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
This episode made me dislike Lois even more... if that's possible. Going through her cousin's trash? How low is THAT?!?! She could have been stealing Chloe's story for all she knew.
Gotta get back to Grey's right now. I have more to say about this though.

to be honest that whole apartment is Lois's. Chloe is living there for free, so anything and everything in the garbage belongs to Lois. and if chloe's so smart why did she leave something as potentially damning as photographic evidence in a public trash can with her nosy reporter cousin still in the apartment.

if lois had gone on chloe's computer then i would agree, but she didnt so no lois did not rip off chloe.

[HowardFilms]

If only Chloe had put on a shiny costume and fought Lois in a cagefight...that's the onlt thing that would make this ep even better

[ChlarkMe]

At least she wasn't as bad as Lana, but I think it's just crazy for Lois Lane to be close to being unemployed because she can't find a story good enough for the inquisitor

I do think it was wrong of her to try and pounce on a story she knew Chloe & Clark were working on. Even if they said there wasn't a story she knew they were working on one and should have respected Chloe, her own cousin.

The fact that Lois Lane has to steal a stroy from her cousin speaks clearly to me, this Lois is not ILL.

[Deana]

Originally posted by thehenry89
to be honest that whole apartment is Lois's. Chloe is living there for free, so anything and everything in the garbage belongs to Lois. and if chloe's so smart why did she leave something as potentially damning as photographic evidence in a public trash can with her nosy reporter cousin still in the apartment.

if lois had gone on chloe's computer then i would agree, but she didnt so no lois did not rip off chloe. I agree. It was a classic Lois move and Chloe should have known not to be so reckless.

I mean, have Chloe and Clark met Lois?

[Tomsgurl88]

I agree with thehenry89, and i love how Lois did that because more and more she's becoming the tough ambitious reporter we all know and love.

[savingpeoplething]

That whole scenario with Lois BEGGING Chloe for a story or she'd lose her job was a PATHETIC showing for Lois.

She can't even find her OWN story?
Has to beg her cousin and GO THROUGH her TRASH to get one?
That is UNBELIEVABLY shady.

I actually can't believe they went there, but it's actually pretty consistent for this whole season that she's willing to do whatever she can to get a story no matter if it is stealing from family.

A Lois Lane who begs for a story? Wow. What a shame.

[svfan50]

Originally posted by Deana
I agree. It was a classic Lois move and Chloe should have known not to be so reckless.

I mean, have Chloe and Clark met Lois?

EXXACCTTTTLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by thehenry89
to be honest that whole apartment is Lois's. Chloe is living there for free, so anything and everything in the garbage belongs to Lois. and if chloe's so smart why did she leave something as potentially damning as photographic evidence in a public trash can with her nosy reporter cousin still in the apartment.

if lois had gone on chloe's computer then i would agree, but she didnt so no lois did not rip off chloe.

Alright there is no proof Chloe is living there for free...

Also... I dunno... that can be an argument that she was trying to steal the story...

But then again it was in the trash meaning i dunno

All I know is Lois showed a fatal Flaw in undercover reporting

TURN THE FLASH OFF WHEN TAKING PICTURES... I mean you aren't supposed to be obvious when taking pictures of a place YOU KNOW YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AT!

[MetroGirl06]

She was desperate! LOL

Lois probably figured that if it was in the trash than Chloe didnt need it, or didnt want it.

[myankskent]

Ok...here's the thing, if Lois had looked on Chloe's computer, that would've been terrible. I wasn't too fond of her practically begging Chloe for a story, that bothered me, but when she saw the picture in the trash and found out where the fight club was located, I'm sorry, but I can't blame Lois for figuring out something that Chloe couldn't.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
That whole scenario with Lois BEGGING Chloe for a story or she'd lose her job was a PATHETIC showing for Lois.

She can't even find her OWN story?
Has to beg her cousin and GO THROUGH her TRASH to get one?
That is UNBELIEVABLY shady.

I actually can't believe they went there, but it's actually pretty consistent for this whole season that she's willing to do whatever she can to get a story no matter if it is stealing from family.

A Lois Lane who begs for a story? Wow. What a shame.

Thus showing a lack of journalistic skill....

She is definitely a TABLOID writer

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by thehenry89
to be honest that whole apartment is Lois's. Chloe is living there for free, so anything and everything in the garbage belongs to Lois. and if chloe's so smart why did she leave something as potentially damning as photographic evidence in a public trash can with her nosy reporter cousin still in the apartment.

if lois had gone on chloe's computer then i would agree, but she didnt so no lois did not rip off chloe.

So you have the lowdown on the agreement on rent or lack there of, interesting.

The garbage belongs to Lois is really reaching. Does Lois Lane really need to stoop so low she has to find her stories in the garbage? It really shows us a lot about her character or lack there of. ILL I think not.

[biggkoz]

The part she got knocked out reminded me of a lana move too.

[Chiriru]

So much for respecting the boundaries talked about in Arrow. Chloe was so bad for composing a photo that she never printed a thing with but I'm sure it's okay for EDLois to cross the line that *she* set up right? :lol:

Honestly the only good thing about it is that several people called the set up for EDLois stealing Chloe's work way back in Arrow.


Does Lois Lane really need to stoop so low she has to find her stories in the garbage?

Right. And if she does, rather than taking advice of the actual reporters... if she instead goes through the trash -- what does that say about her as a reporter?

I mean honestly - she won't go out and look for a story (big contrast to Chloe in Thirst), instead she wants someone to HAND her a story.

So much for that 'investigating.'

[blackcelebration]

If people knew anything about ILL they'd know that even that character would take other people's stories (particularly Clark's) to get a story.

Check out an early episode of L&C & Lois does the same thing there when she steals a story from Clark but Clark gets his own back at the end!! :lol:

So this is actually normal Lois behaviour!!

Remember this is a young Lois not the finished article (pardon the pun)!!!

[Deana]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
At least she wasn't as bad as Lana, but I think it's just crazy for Lois Lane to be close to being unemployed because she can't find a story good enough for the inquisitor

I do think it was wrong of her to try and pounce on a story she knew Chloe & Clark were working on. Even if they said there wasn't a story she knew they were working on one and should have respected Chloe, her own cousin.

The fact that Lois Lane has to steal a stroy from her cousin speaks clearly to me, this Lois is not ILL. She was about to get fired because she was following a crazy story that isn't true. There was no possible way she was going to get evidence of said story.

Chloe told her it was a dead story. As is, she was not working on it anymore. As in...fair game to another reporter.

Chloe wasn't working on it as an article anyway. She was doing what she usually does, being Clark's main source of info. :rolleyes:

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Chiriru

So much for that 'investigating.'

Actually, Lois was the one who did the investigating. She's the one who found the location of the fight club and when she did, she actually went to the location instead of sitting back at the DP.:)

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by HowardFilms
If only Chloe had put on a shiny costume and fought Lois in a cagefight...that's the onlt thing that would make this ep even better :rotfl:

[pleasenoclois]

And how do we know Chloe is living there for free?

And does that mean that everything that is Chloe's that is in the apartment is therefore Lois's to use as she pleases since Lois's name is on the lease?

:rolleyes:

It was wrong for Lois to do, especially to family, no matter how anyone argues it.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
At least she wasn't as bad as Lana, but I think it's just crazy for Lois Lane to be close to being unemployed because she can't find a story good enough for the inquisitor

I do think it was wrong of her to try and pounce on a story she knew Chloe & Clark were working on. Even if they said there wasn't a story she knew they were working on one and should have respected Chloe, her own cousin.

The fact that Lois Lane has to steal a stroy from her cousin speaks clearly to me, this Lois is not ILL.
I agree,tho its nowhere near as bad as lana it was still bad on lois part.Yes she was strugglin to find a story but she wanted chloe to jus had over her leads to what she walked in on.Far as she knew it wasn't a story for the inquister or that chlark were workin on sumthin.So I agree,it was still bad on lois part but not as bad as lana thankfully

[Deana]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
And how do we know Chloe is living there for free?

And does that mean that everything that is Chloe's that is in the apartment is therefore Lois's to use as she pleases since Lois's name is on the lease?

:rolleyes:

It was wrong for Lois to do, especially to family, no matter how anyone argues it. Was it wrong when Saint Chloe decided to scam off Lois's Green Arrow story? :rolleyes:

[Routh]

And you know what? This wasn't Chloe's story.

Chloe didn't do ANYTHING. She looked up a URL given to her by Clark, who got it from Oliver.

She didn't steal anything from Chloe. She was looking for a story, and she found one. She also independently, like Clark, found her way into the fight club, which Chloe could not do.

[freefall]

Originally posted by blackcelebration
If people knew anything about ILL they'd know that even that character would take other people's stories (particularly Clark's) to get a story.

Check out an early episode of L&C & Lois does the same thing there when she steals a story from Clark but Clark gets his own back at the end!! :lol:

So this is actually normal Lois behaviour!!

Remember this is a young Lois not the finished article (pardon the pun)!!!

Tell me about it :lol: She was even all gung ho about scooping some other female reporter's scoop. She did it plenty of times with Clark of course.



Originally posted by Deana

She was about to get fired because she was firing a crazy story that isn't true. There was no possible way she was going to get evidence of said story.

Chloe told her it was a dead story. As is, she was not working on it anymore. As in...fair game to another reporter.

Chloe wasn't working on it as an article anyway. She was doing what she usually does, being Clark's main source of info.


Exactly. How could you "steal" or rip off something when it's already given away in the first place anyway? Have some logic here.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
And how do we know Chloe is living there for free?

And does that mean that everything that is Chloe's that is in the apartment is therefore Lois's to use as she pleases since Lois's name is on the lease?

:rolleyes:

It was wrong for Lois to do, especially to family, no matter how anyone argues it.

give me a break it was in the garbage. if it was SO valuable chloe wouldn't have left it in there. IF lois had opend chloe's mail that would have been bad. IF lois had opend her laptop that would have been bad, but digging through her own garbage the fact that it's even an issue that she can or can not look through her own garbage makes me very sad.

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by myankskent
Actually, Lois was the one who did the investigating. She's the one who found the location of the fight club and when she did, she actually went to the location instead of sitting back at the DP.:)

Chloe wasn't interested in a story;). . .She was only using that info to help Clark;). . .Oh, and believe me, Chloe DOESN'T just sit back at the DP, waiting for a story to happen, she investigates a lot with Clark;) :)

[Chiriru]

Actually, Lois was the one who did the investigating.

Did she find her own story?

Could she do her assignment?

Doesn't say much about her skills at all.


If people knew anything about ILL

Pretty bold claim. But that isn't what people are saying.

People are commenting on the line that EDLois *herself* put up in Arrow; the one that people criticized Chloe for messing with in Arrow when EDLois ran right through it.

And it's canon that on her own EDLois can not hold down a job at the worst paper in town now.

Think about it.

This ep did EDLois no favors at all.

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
....
And does that mean that everything that is Chloe's that is in the apartment is therefore Lois's to use as she pleases since Lois's name is on the lease?....

Well, if you think about it she does act like she owns everything. Remember how she just walked into the Kents when she arrived in Smallville. She took over Clarks room without a thought about how it was putting him out. So this Lois Lane totally thinks it's her due based on her behavior.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by Deana
Chloe wasn't working on it as an article anyway.

Is there anything to indicate that Lois DIDN'T think Chloe was working on a story?


Originally posted by Chiriru
Did she find her own story?

Could she do her assignment?

Doesn't say much about her skills at all.

She expected a handout, which is not all uncommon with her :)

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
Is there anything to indicate that Lois DIDN'T think Chloe was working on a story?

chloe told her flat out it was a dead story so yes.

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
And does that mean that everything that is Chloe's that is in the apartment is therefore Lois's to use as she pleases since Lois's name is on the lease?

:rolleyes:

Maybe she can borrow Jimmy if that is the rule :D

Is amazing how Temp Lois can do anything for a story (even be unethical) and is a fantastic ILL trait but if Chloe tries to do anything close to it she is a terrible person and not ILL will do that. I mean we need to come to an agreement if ILL is willing to do anything in the name of journalism then it counts for both girls not just the one with the name.

I loved the fact that Temp Lois went through Chloe's garbage to find a story for TI and not lose her paycheck. In writting we call this opening a circle... I think is a hint of the big arc for her ;)

[myankskent]

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Chloe wasn't interested in a story;). . .She was only using that info to help Clark;).


I know she does. Chloe investigates for Clark, but if she investigated for herself, she would've pursued that story.

[blackcelebration]

Originally posted by myankskent
Actually, Lois was the one who did the investigating. She's the one who found the location of the fight club and when she did, she actually went to the location instead of sitting back at the DP.:)

I suppose those Google searches can only get you so far!!! :lol:

Also this shows something that Lois has that Chloe could never... & that's grittiness or getting her hands dirty. Sorry but 9/10 Chloe to find a story will spend most of the time at The DP Google searching & then bring Clark with her (Remember Clark's a super powered being!!!)

Lois on the other hand will actually go out & investigate & ask people for information... aka contacts & as like today will sometimes risk her own well being to get that story!!!

Promise was not a good Chloe episode... Calling Clark to rescue her from the wine cellar...??? I'm beginning to think she's becoming too Clark dependent!!!

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by thehenry89
chloe told her flat out it was a dead story so yes.


Lois knew. Anyone with half a brain knew by both Chloe and Clark's expression.

[Deana]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
Well, if you think about it she does act like she owns everything. Remember how she just walked into the Kents when she arrived in Smallville. She took over Clarks room without a thought about how it was putting him out. So this Lois Lane totally thinks it's her due based on her behavior. Lois lets Chloe stay there. I remember her telling Chloe she could stay with her because the dorms were no more.

I mean, where would Chloe get money to pay rent? She's an intern that every once in a while gets a story published. She could not buy Clark a gift for his birthday for lack of funds...

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by Chiriru
Did she find her own story?

Could she do her assignment?

Doesn't say much about her skills at all.



Pretty bold claim. But that isn't what people are saying.

People are commenting on the line that EDLois *herself* put up in Arrow; the one that people criticized Chloe for messing with in Arrow when EDLois ran right through it.

And it's canon that on her own EDLois can not hold down a job at the worst paper in town now.

Think about it.

This ep did EDLois no favors at all.

I AGREE 100%;). . .EDLois seemed rather DESPERATE for a story:). . .In fact, she was SO DESPERATE that she practically begged Chloe for the story, which Chloe wasn't even interested in:lol:. . .She was only researching it for Clark, NOT for the DP;)

[thehenry89]

IMO this wasn't a good chloe episode she called herself a sidekick.

[p.he.nix]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois

It was wrong for Lois to do, especially to family, no matter how anyone argues it.

Speaking of family, what about in Crimson when Lois had just broken up with Ollie and Jimmy was the one comforting Lois and trying to cheer her up. Whereas Chloe was just concerned about getting Clark to move on from Lana. Not Lois' cousin, but her cousin's boyfriend.:rolleyes:

[Lauren17]

I don't think Lois was wrong or Chloe was careless. Besides, Lois isn't into journalism like Chloe is (yet).

Lois didn't look on Chloe's computer. She is not at fault for being suspicious.


Besides, being suspicious is in the Lane-Sullivan genes.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Chiriru
Did she find her own story?

Could she do her assignment?

Doesn't say much about her skills at all.


Really? She tried to investigate her own story, she came up short. So now, we see her struggling to get an article while many said that she was getting front page stories all over the place in the very beginning. She found the picture and pursued the story...sorry, I admit that seeing something in the trash isn't exactly journalistic brilliance, but Lois noticed something that Chloe didn't and that fact cannot be ignored. Then Lois pursued the story.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by blackcelebration
Also this shows something that Lois has that Chloe could never... & that's grittiness or getting her hands dirty.

You're right.
I felt like Lois was pretty dirty in this one.

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by Deana
Lois lets Chloe stay there. I remember her telling Chloe she could stay with her because the dorms were no more.

I mean, where would Chloe get money to pay rent? She's an intern that every once in a while gets a story published. She could not buy Clark a gift for his birthday for lack of funds...


Not sure what point your making.? :confused: :confused:

[Deana]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
Not sure what point your making.? :confused: :confused: Her place...her trash to search. :D

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by myankskent
She found the picture and pursued the story...sorry, I admit that seeing something in the trash isn't exactly journalistic brilliance, but Lois noticed something that Chloe did and that fact cannot be ignored. Then Lois pursued the story.

She didn't just "find" the story, she dug through Chloe's RESEARCH and the TRASH to steal it.

Chloe found out more about the connection to Belle Reve and the meteor-infected people than Lois did by flirting it up lesbian style and talking about her stripper skills.


Originally posted by Deana
Her place...her trash to search. :D

Chloe lives there, too.
In fact, Clark references it more as Chloe's apartment than he does with Lois.

And, do we really want Lois Lane getting stories out of the trash that have come out of OTHER people's research?

[Nospam]

Originally posted by blackcelebration
I suppose those Google searches can only get you so far!!! :lol:

Also this shows something that Lois has that Chloe could never... & that's grittiness or getting her hands dirty. Sorry but 9/10 Chloe to find a story will spend most of the time at The DP Google searching & then bring Clark with her (Remember Clark's a super powered being!!!)

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You haven't been paying attention if you think that Chloe just sits on her very ample and lovely derriere at the Planet waiting for a story. Circumstances were such that Chloe did not need to investigate, but Lois did. We had five flipping seasons where Chloe went out for a story more times than I can remember. It's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Lois is coming into her own as a reporter though and that is obviously causing conflict between Lois and Chloe.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Deana
Her place...her trash to search. :D

exactly. i won't live to see the day someone tells me i can't look through my own trash in my own house.

[Routh]

It is SO SAD that people are trying to turn this around on Lois, because they don't want her investigating.

Chloe did absolutely NOTHING. Clark gets a username and password from Oliver. He gives it to Chloe. Chloe prints out a picture. Wow.

Lois, sniffing for a story, sees one when she walks into her apartment. Chloe tells her the story was a dead end. Lois is fine with that. Then, Lois finds the picture. She sees something that Chloe clearly didn't, and goes to investigate. She writes a story, but Chloe doesn't, because she didn't bother to investigate further. She gave up after she couldn't hack into it. For once.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
She didn't just "find" the story, she dug through Chloe's RESEARCH and the TRASH to steal it.

Chloe found out more about the connection to Belle Reve and the meteor-infected people than Lois did by flirting it up lesbian style and talking about her stripper skills.

Lois found the location of the fight club, Chloe didn't. It's as simple as that. If Chloe found information on Belle Reve, then she can write a story about that but we of course were never told that she was planning on writing one.

[blackcelebration]

Originally posted by p.he.nix
Speaking of family, what about in Crimson when Lois had just broken up with Ollie and Jimmy was the one comforting Lois and trying to cheer her up. Whereas Chloe was just concerned about getting Clark to move on from Lana. Not Lois' cousin, but her cousin's boyfriend.:rolleyes:

Maybe she wanted some Charlk action :p

But please this is a YOUNG LOIS LANE. If she was already like ILL that would just be too stupid & unrealistic!!!

Also I suppose after Green Arrow left she ran out of things to write about!!!

Imagine if Superman never came into her life??? :lol:

[Lostfan588]

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
I AGREE 100%;). . .EDLois seemed rather DESPERATE for a story:). . .In fact, she was SO DESPERATE that she practically begged Chloe for the story, which Chloe wasn't even interested in:lol:. . .She was only researching it for Clark, NOT for the DP;)


I really wonder why the writers would want to depict Lois like this as far as journalistic integrity, character development goes? Seriously. Its almost like they want us to look down on her. The lesbian scene? J another excuse for T and A. There are much better ways the writers could have used to show EDLois and her investigating skills. Digging through her cousins garbage bc she cant find a story on her own? Again they could have had EDLois find the story about the fights on her own w out any help or from anyone. It woulddve shown alot more initiative on her part. But i think the wildest thing is that the writers would actually bring up her "Exposed" stripping routine...:lol: ....wow. the writers sure like to make sure they differentiate the 2 reporters on the show. Yeah um Chlois all the way!

[freefall]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
She didn't just "find" the story, she dug through Chloe's RESEARCH and the TRASH to steal it.

Chloe found out more about the connection to Belle Reve and the meteor-infected people than Lois did by flirting it up lesbian style and talking about her stripper skills.


What "research" exactly? How could it be "stealing" if Chloe has flat out said it's a dead story, not to mention she dumped it in trash cans to boot, like you yourself have so rightfully pointed out? Lois noticed something that Chloe didn't, she found out about the fight club all by herself anyway.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by myankskent
Lois found the location of the fight club, Chloe didn't.

And, how did she find it???

By using the picture CHLOE FOUND.


Originally posted by seacrystal
Lois noticed something that Chloe didn't, she found out about the fight club all by herself anyway.

Lois wouldn't have noticed ANYTHING if she hadn't used CHLOE'S PRINT-OUT.
It's as SIMPLE AS THAT.

No picture.
No figuring it out to be a military hangar.
No red leather outfit.

[clois_lover10]

I think that Lois did much better investigating than Chloe in this episode. Chloe only got Maddox's name, while Lois got into the fight club itself. Without Clark, Chloe's information would have been meaningless... from that one photo Lois saw in the trash, Lois was able to get to the club and take pictures. Chloe only got the picture in the first place from a URL given to Clark by Oliver.

[Mauve]

Lois found the picture in a trashcan located in her apartment. It would have been completely different if she'd looked through Chloe's super!computer without her permission.

Lois didn't know what they where looking at on that computer. She wanted to, but she respected the fact that they didn't want her to know by NOT going through Chloe's things.

What made it even better was the fact that Lois knew the location of the photograph by look at distinctive things in the picture -- like the markings on the wall.

She knew exactly where the place was located while Chloe didn't know anything BUT the Kryptonain symbols and that's only because of Clark.

One man's trash is another man's treasure, as they say.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by myankskent
Really? She tried to investigate her own story, she came up short. So now, we see her struggling to get an article while many said that she was getting front page stories all over the place in the very beginning. She found the picture and pursued the story...sorry, I admit that seeing something in the trash isn't exactly journalistic brilliance, but Lois noticed something that Chloe didn't and that fact cannot be ignored. Then Lois pursued the story.

Exactly. This episode really didn't serve either Chloe or Lois very well, in my opinion. Chloe missed some important information and Lois was so desperate for a story she dug through the trash.

Methinks we might see more conflict in the future, but I hope not.

[thehenry89]

i cant even fathom the outrage we'd see if lois ate the last cookie from the jar. :rolleyes:

[EllenF]

But please this is a YOUNG LOIS LANE. If she was already like ILL that would just be too stupid & unrealistic!!!

Yeah, having a second character around who's already like ILL would be boring and repetitive. After all, we already have Chloe to fill that role.

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by blackcelebration
I suppose those Google searches can only get you so far!!! :lol:

Also this shows something that Lois has that Chloe could never... & that's grittiness or getting her hands dirty. Sorry but 9/10 Chloe to find a story will spend most of the time at The DP Google searching & then bring Clark with her (Remember Clark's a super powered being!!!)

Lois on the other hand will actually go out & investigate & ask people for information... aka contacts & as like today will sometimes risk her own well being to get that story!!!

Promise was not a good Chloe episode... Calling Clark to rescue her from the wine cellar...??? I'm beginning to think she's becoming too Clark dependent!!!

:eek: Are you serious?:rolleyes:. . .You're saying that Chloe is NOT willing to get her hands dirty?:\ . . .May I remind you that in "Exposed," she was willing to risk her life by meeting a troubled girl on a darkened street?. . .Yeah, sure Lois was there, BUT it was Chloe's idea to FURTHER investigate, which landed them at the Pheonix strip club. . .While Chloe was out investigating, what was Lois doing:lol:. . .STRIPPING!. . .ALSO, Chloe may NOT, "get her hands dirty," as you said like Lois, BUT WITHOUT Chloe, Clark would NEVER get as far with catching the zoners, and Lois wouldn't have had an introduction to journalism:D. . .Chloe is the REASON why Lois got interested in the first place:D

[WangTang]

I duno what some people are talking about, Lois Lane once purposely tossed herself and the car she was in into a river, just to attract superman for a story. This is what ILL always does, and Lois was in top form tonight, Lois investigates something, gets her butt in trouble, and superman [in this case clark] comes in and saves her. Hell how else are you going to get to the big story, unless you do some digging, in tonights case it was in the garbage.

[ChlarkMe]

Originally posted by Deana
Her place...her trash to search. :D

Though it's debatable whether it's ethical, I don't think anyone would deprive Lois from her trash. Doesn't every Inquisitor reporter need their quota. (I know I couldn't help myself, sorry.);) ;)

Don't you think it's pathetic that "The Lois Lane" can't find her own story without looking in the trash?

[myankskent]

Originally posted by seacrystal
What "research" exactly? How could it be "stealing" if Chloe has flat out said it's a dead story, not to mention she dumped it in trash cans to boot, like you yourself have so rightfully pointed out? Lois noticed something that Chloe didn't, she found out about the fight club all by herself anyway.

Totally agree. Chloe said that it was nothing...if Lois found something that she felt was useful, she is entitled to pursue it, plain and simple. Had she gone onto the computer, different story and nobody would be killing her her character more than me.

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by EllenF
Yeah, having a second character around who's already like ILL would be boring and repetitive. After all, we already have Chloe.

I SECOND THAT:D

[Routh]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
And, how did she find it???

By using the picture CHLOE FOUND.
BUT CHLOE DIDN'T FIND IT!

She didn't find the link to the site, or the password, that was all Clark. And guess what? Clark ALSO noticed the Kryptonian symbols. THEN he told Chloe to print it out. CHLOE DID NOTHING.

[PepSinger]

Can I just say that I found it completely disgusting that Lois took Chloe's story? I don't care that the trash was in Lois apartment. Lois Lane should never beg for a story. You've never seen Chloe do that, and never will.

[freefall]

Originally posted by Routh
Chloe did absolutely NOTHING. Clark gets a username and password from Oliver. He gives it to Chloe. Chloe prints out a picture. Wow.


So that's the extent of Chloe's "research". ;)

[clois_lover10]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
And, how did she find it???

By using the picture CHLOE FOUND.

And how did Chloe find it? By getting a web address FROM CLARK who had gotten it FROM OLIVER. Really, it wasn't too difficult at all for Chloe to get to the video on the webpage- she just had to type in the address that Oliver gave Clark. Chloe and Lois are at the same level because of this, and Lois did a much better job with what she was given in my opinion.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
And, how did she find it???

By using the picture CHLOE FOUND.


By using the picture that CHLOE THREW IN THE TRASH.

[puppiesnkittens]

Why am I not surprised that this thread is 4+ pages? Any opportunity to bash ED WHO IS LOIS LANE I guess. :rolleyes:

She didn't do anything wrong, she threw away her stupid cup and looked at a picture. Just because she could sum up info faster than Chloe & Clark doesn't mean anything. This is something TH's Lois would have/did do in a second. And her willingness to just jump into a story, you cannot get more ILL that that. :D :cool:

[Deana]

I remember Iconic Lois going down in the sewer because she thought it would lead to a story about Superman. All the while trying to keep her partner Clark out of the loop.

Lois will get down in dirty for a story...believe it and embrace it.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by clois_lover10
I think that Lois did much better investigating than Chloe in this episode. Chloe only got Maddox's name, while Lois got into the fight club itself.

Again, how did Lois know about the fight club???

Yeah, from CHLOE'S RESEARCH THAT SHE DUG OUT OF THE TRASH AFTER SHE HAD SNUCK A PEAK ON CHLOE'S LAPTOP.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Routh
BUT CHLOE DIDN'T FIND IT!

She didn't find the link to the site, or the password, that was all Clark. And guess what? Clark ALSO noticed the Kryptonian symbols. THEN he told Chloe to print it out. CHLOE DID NOTHING.

Thanks Routh. Very good point that I missed.

[Routh]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
Again, how did Lois know about the fight club???

Yeah, from CHLOE'S RESEARCH THAT SHE DUG OUT OF THE TRASH AFTER SHE HAD SNUCK A PEAK ON CHLOE'S LAPTOP.
Oh my Jesus. Let me just quote myself.

BUT CHLOE DIDN'T FIND IT!

She didn't find the link to the site, or the password, that was all Clark. And guess what? Clark ALSO noticed the Kryptonian symbols. THEN he told Chloe to print it out. CHLOE DID NOTHING.
CHLOE DID NO RESEARCH.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by myankskent
By using the picture that CHLOE THREW IN THE TRASH.

STILL CHLOE'S RESEARCH. NOT HER OWN.
AND, THAT WAS AFTER LOIS BEGGED CHLOE FOR A STORY.

That darn Lois, still relying on handouts.

[l o i s 4 ever]

Lois was looking for a good story, and maybe she DID ask Chloe for one- which is not like her- but doesnt exactly mean shes a bad one.

She did basically find her own, since Chloe did say it was a "dead story" so Lois was free to do some investigating on it.

It was also funny when Lois found out the adress of the place, which was shown on the picture, and Chloe didn't! Clark had to go through someone else first!! LMAOO!!!

[WangTang]

very true Deana, people should actually read some comics with lois Lane, she has done many things to get a story, hence why shes Lois Lane.

[p.he.nix]

Originally posted by thehenry89
i cant even fathom the outrage we'd see if lois ate the last cookie from the jar. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I can see this causing the debaters to duke it out for awhile. ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE?!

[myankskent]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
STILL CHLOE'S RESEARCH. NOT HER OWN.
AND, THAT WAS AFTER SHE BEGGED HER FOR A STORY.

Actually, Clark's research. Routh already made that point above.

[cygnusx1]

sometimes its not black and white when pursuing the story. she saw the picture in the trash and figured out what the marking met on the post. she went to the hanger and got the story

[freefall]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
Again, how did Lois know about the fight club???

Yeah, from CHLOE'S RESEARCH THAT SHE DUG OUT OF THE TRASH AFTER SHE HAD SNUCK A PEAK ON CHLOE'S LAPTOP.

This thread sure moves fast :) Anyway, again we ask, what's all these "Chloe's research" in Combat actually?

[Deana]

Originally posted by Routh
BUT CHLOE DIDN'T FIND IT!

She didn't find the link to the site, or the password, that was all Clark. And guess what? Clark ALSO noticed the Kryptonian symbols. THEN he told Chloe to print it out. CHLOE DID NOTHING. I have to quote this again for truth. It was Oliver's research.

[Mauve]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
Again, how did Lois know about the fight club???

Yeah, from CHLOE'S RESEARCH THAT SHE DUG OUT OF THE TRASH AFTER SHE HAD SNUCK A PEAK ON CHLOE'S LAPTOP.


Snuck a peek? Direct me to that scene will you?

...


Lois questioned what they were looking at. She didn't know anything. She didn't go into Chloe's laptop without her consent.

She practically dropped the whole thing after they left and she looked AT the closed laptop for moment.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
Again, how did Lois know about the fight club???

Yeah, from CHLOE'S RESEARCH THAT SHE DUG OUT OF THE TRASH AFTER SHE HAD SNUCK A PEAK ON CHLOE'S LAPTOP.

lois lanes from comics television and movie have stolen for stories jounalistic intergrity is not something Lois lane has ever seen as a bareir to a story. and even if i belived she did something unethical (which i don't) it's still no worse,or better, then what chloe did in arrow.

[freefall]

Originally posted by p.he.nix
Yeah, I can see this causing the debaters to duke it out for awhile. ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE?!

We don't even have to go to the Chlois debate thread :lol:

[clois_lover10]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
Again, how did Lois know about the fight club???

Yeah, from CHLOE'S RESEARCH THAT SHE DUG OUT OF THE TRASH AFTER SHE HAD SNUCK A PEAK ON CHLOE'S LAPTOP.

How exactly did Lois sneak a peak on Chloe's laptop? When did you see this??

[Routh]

Let me just do a chain of events.

- Clark gets the link, username, and password from Oliver Queen.

- Clark GIVES Chloe the link, username, and pass word.

- Clark NOTICES the Kryptonian symbols, and TELLS Chloe to print it out.

- Chloe fails to find out where this is taking place, or the FR-44 in the picture. She throws it away. She gives up.

Where... exactly did Chloe do research?

[blackcelebration]

Originally posted by EllenF
Yeah, having a second character around who's already like ILL would be boring and repetitive. After all, we already have Chloe to fill that role.

So sitting on ya arse doing Google searches all day is an ILL???

Sorry but ILL was a investigative STREET reporter who would go do anything and sometimes go out of her way to get a story.

In Superman II (Lester) she put her life in danger by jumping into The Grand Canion River to prove that Clark is Superman. Chloe just found out because Alica told her!!!

In Superman II (Donner) she jumped from the top of The Daily Planet to try & prove that Clark was Superman. Eventually she shot him with a blank bullet. Chloe found out because Alcia told her!!!

In Lois & Clark Season 1 episode 3. Clark had a story about Superman which Lois stole from him & instead published it on The Daily Planet as her own story!!!

In Lois & Clark Pilot Lois dressed as a man to expose drug dealers!!!

So what I am telling you is that when it comes to getting a story ILL rarely had morals!!!

[puppiesnkittens]

Originally posted by clois_lover10
How exactly did Lois sneak a peak on Chloe's laptop? When did you see this??

Lois has x-ray vision, she saw everything on the laptop - even when closed. ;) :p

[Ireallylikethisshow]

This is a very Iconic Lois Lane thing to do.

It really is, they don't call her 'MAD DOG LANE' for nothing. in LnC she stole a story from Clark.

It's not a formidable thing to do, BUT it is what Lois Lane would do. So I'm not sure anyone can say this is Chlois.

I'm sorry folks, that's who the iconic Lois Lane is. She steals stories, she steals them all the time.

[Nospam]

People, calm down. Chloe and Lois fans need to come together here. We both should be glad that Lana didn't find the photograph and show up at the fight club to tearfully watch her Clarkiekins gets his butt whipped. I don't think I could stand seeing that. :(

[Deana]

Originally posted by Routh
Let me just do a chain of events.

- Clark gets the link, username, and password from Oliver Queen.

- Clark GIVES Chloe the link, username, and pass word.

- Clark NOTICES the Kryptonian symbols, and TELLS Chloe to print it out.

- Chloe fails to find out where this is taking place, or the FR-44 in the picture. She throws it away. She gives up.

Where... exactly did Chloe do research? Not to mention typing in said link using Lois's internet connection and electricity, which both cousins were going to lose out on if Lois lost her job. :lol:

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Deana
Not to mention typing in said link using Lois's internet connection and electricity, which both cousins were going to lose out on if Lois lost her job. :lol:

People continue to call it "Lois'" apartment, but Chloe lives there as well. I can't see Chloe freeloading off of Lois. God knows they'd both be dead. :lol:

[freefall]

Originally posted by Nospam
People, calm down. Chloe and Lois fans need to come together here. We both should be glad that Lana didn't find the photograph and show up at the fight club to tearfully watch her Clarkiekins gets his butt whipped. I don't think I could stand seeing that. :(

Very wise words. But fans like me just can't stand when a character gets unfairly ripped apart just because you-know-what.

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by Lostfan588
I really wonder why the writers would want to depict Lois like this as far as journalistic integrity, character development goes? Seriously. Its almost like they want us to look down on her. The lesbian scene? J another excuse for T and A. There are much better ways the writers could have used to show EDLois and her investigating skills. Digging through her cousins garbage bc she cant find a story on her own? Again they could have had EDLois find the story about the fights on her own w out any help or from anyone. It woulddve shown alot more initiative on her part. But i think the wildest thing is that the writers would actually bring up her "Exposed" stripping routine...:lol: ....wow. the writers sure like to make sure they differentiate the 2 reporters on the show. Yeah um Chlois all the way!

As ALWAYS, I AGREE with you;). . .EDLois EVEN looked at Chloe's computer, contemplating whether or not to steal a peek at her "story":D :lol:. . .Yep, there were SO MANY other ways that AL/MILES could have had Lois investigating a story, BUT INSTEAD, they portrayed her as DESPERATE:lol:

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
This is a very Iconic Lois Lane thing to do.

It really is, they don't call her 'MAD DOG LANE' for nothing. in LnC she stole a story from Clark.

It's not a formidable thing to do, BUT it is what Lois Lane would do. So I'm not sure anyone can say this is Chlois.

I'm sorry folks, that's who the iconic Lois Lane is. She steals stories, she steals them all the time.

I just hope that if Chloe steals a story from Temp Lois and a most sneaky and malicious way all of you would be converted Chloisers at once ;)

[blackcelebration]

Originally posted by Nospam
People, calm down. Chloe and Lois fans need to come together here. We both should be glad that Lana didn't find the photograph and show up at the fight club to tearfully watch her Clarkiekins gets his butt whipped. I don't think I could stand seeing that. :(

I 1000% agree!!!

In the future more Chlark with Clois later on for desert :p

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
I just hope that if Chloe steals a story from Temp Lois and a most sneaky and malicious way all of you would be converted Chloisers at once ;)

she's already stolen information from her before, and i'm still an EDloiser ;)

[Kreukie]

If it wasn't for Lana, Lois and Chloe wouldn't even be living up there with internet connection and electricity if everyone wants to get all technical, since it was Lana that turned the up stairs into an apartment. :p

Donno how Lois will ever become ironic Lois Lane when TPTB put so much importance into Chloe's character.

[puppiesnkittens]

Originally posted by thehenry89
she's already stolen information from her before, and i'm still an EDloiser ;)

I am EDLoiser also, which is easy because her name *actually* IS Lois Lane. :rotfl: No brainer. ;)

[jazel]

lol....she was tempted to look at Chloe's laptop, but she didn't !
Can't you give her credit for that ?
and she didn't purposely go looking thru the trash, man you guys are so hard on her !

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Kreukie
If it wasn't for Lana, Lois and Chloe wouldn't even be living up there with internet connection and electricity if everyone wants to get all technical, since it was Lana that turned the up stairs into an apartment. :p

Donno how Lois will ever become ironic Lois Lane when TPTB put so much importance into Chloe's character.

if you wanna get technical technical if it wasn't for clark and lex, lana lois and chloe would never have had a coffee shop free internet or a place to live so touche :D.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
I just hope that if Chloe steals a story from Temp Lois and a most sneaky and malicious way all of you would be converted Chloisers at once ;)

She's done similar things already. So, keep your hopes up.

[freefall]

All these nitpickings is what I could never understand. I could definitely nitpick Chloe for her plot devicey superhackings and stupid back and forth dialogues, but I can just usually make excuses for it and just chalk it up to other reasons. But if some people are so intent to bash other characters just to have Chloe as some sort of saint or a victim, then of course I'd have plenty to say about that :)

[lastdaughterofkrypton]

Yeah I knew that SOME of you where just because the name all along.

[Deana]

Originally posted by Kreukie
If it wasn't for Lana, Lois and Chloe wouldn't even be living up there with internet connection and electricity if everyone wants to get all technical, since it was Lana that turned the up stairs into an apartment. :p

Donno how Lois will ever become ironic Lois Lane when TPTB put so much importance into Chloe's character. Landlord Lana waiting for her check. :lol:

I can see her now, rushing in the room and going through the trash and getting the pic for Lois so she can pay the rent. :lol:

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
Yeah I knew that SOME of you where just because the name all along.

not me :D

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Kreukie
If it wasn't for Lana, Lois and Chloe wouldn't even be living up there with internet connection and electricity if everyone wants to get all technical, since it was Lana that turned the up stairs into an apartment. :p

Donno how Lois will ever become ironic Lois Lane when TPTB put so much importance into Chloe's character.

Guaranteed that at least one person brings a knife to a gunfight. :lol:

[puppiesnkittens]

Originally posted by seacrystal
All these nitpickings is what I could never understand. I could definitely nitpick Chloe for her plot devicey superhackings and stupid back and forth dialogues, but I can just usually make excuses for it and just chalk it up to other reasons. But if some people are so intent to bash other characters just to have Chloe as some sort of saint or a victim, then of course I'd have plenty to say about that :)

I don't get bashing at all. Honestly it makes no sense to me. And when someone bashes a character I like, then I will say something as well.

[Nightingale20]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Very wise words. But fans like me just can't stand when a character gets unfairly ripped apart just because you-know-what.

*sighs* I knew the criticism would be heavy. I thought the whole scene with Lois really needing a story was a plot device so Clark Lois could end up at the fight club.

[ChlarkMe]

Story aside. LOIS LANE is on the verge of being FIRED from the Inquisitor because she can't get a story. That's insane.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Nospam
Guaranteed that at least one person brings a knife to a gunfight. :lol:

it was bound to happen after last weeks epic battle.

[pleasenoclois]

Response to a lot of posts on here...

The whole reason the picture was in the trash was because Clark caused coffee to spill on it. NOT because Chloe didn't see any use for it.

Chloe and Clark both ran out of there too quickly for Chloe to reprint the picture (especially without Lois seeing it) for her to get a good look at it again.

And from what I see, Chloe tries to protect Clark by not writing stories that could compromise him.

Chloe was OBVIOUSLY LYING to Lois when she said the story was dead. It was not that she did not see a story there. Chloe is no idiot.

[puppiesnkittens]

Originally posted by thehenry89
not me :D

Me either, for the record. ED won me over instantly as she embodies so much of what Lois Lane is supposed to be. I think she kicks a@@ in the role and it is so very easy to see her grow into MK's Lois. I enjoy every episode of hers. :D

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
Story aside. LOIS LANE is on the verge of being FIRED from the Inquisitor because she can't get a story. That's insane.

no shes on the verge of being fired for not finding fradulant evidence for an unprovable story that's insane.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Originally posted by Nospam
People continue to call it "Lois'" apartment, but Chloe lives there as well. I can't see Chloe freeloading off of Lois. God knows they'd both be dead. :lol:

Um... it is Lois's apartment... that doesn't mean what she did is right... but it is her apartment.

****

That was a bad thing to do, but Lois can't be perfect. The last person they did that too (Lana) became... well... kind of boring and unrealistic, and not very independant. example: how many stalkers she had... her ability to sway butterflies...

Lois did a bad thing, but I still remember her as the one person to cry for Smallville when it got hurt, the one person to comfort Chloe at prom and ect.

IconicLois was also a bit of a jerk sometimes, but it was the inner kindness that made her co-workers love her. :) and this Lois does have an inner kindness, just with a lot of the things she's done... but she's story-addicted sometimes and does pretty much anything to get it (I mean seriously, she flirted with a lesbian wrestler kinda devoted)...

[freefall]

Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
Yeah I knew that SOME of you where just because the name all along.

Nice of you to assume some people like Lois just because her name is Lois Lane.


Originally posted by Deana
Landlord Lana waiting for her check. :lol:

I can see her now, rushing in the room and going through the trash and getting the pic for Lois so she can pay the rent. :lol:

Technically speaking, the apartment and the Talon is owned by the Luthors actually :lol:

[Mauve]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
Story aside. LOIS LANE is on the verge of being FIRED from the Inquisitor because she can't get a story. That's insane.

And Chloe Sullivan hasn't written a story in... god knows when.

[Deana]

Originally posted by ChlarkMe
Story aside. LOIS LANE is on the verge of being FIRED from the Inquisitor because she can't get a story. That's insane. It was a story about a beast that doesn't exist. It was a no-win situation.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by seacrystal
But if some people are so intent to bash other characters just to have Chloe as some sort of saint or a victim, then of course I'd have plenty to say about that :)

I believe TPTB said something like that, about how Chloe could do something bad and the fans would make up all the excuses in the world for her, but once Lana (this was before Lois) would do something bad, those same people would be all over Lana even though Chloe most likely did the same thing a few episodes back or worse. :lol:

[boywithbluehanger]

This Lois progression was bound to be messy from the get-go....Too many people grew to love Chloe!!

No matter what they do to further Lois in her future career as a journalist, they'll have to upset many core fans of the show. I for one like Lois and Chloe but if they absolutely have to, they can take Chloe off the show to make room for Lois's storyline if they feel so inclined ....yikes Nospam's here...don't hurt me man!! :eek: :D

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Originally posted by thehenry89
no shes on the verge of being fired for not finding fradulant evidence for an unprovable story that's insane.

yeah, I don't think anyone could find the chubacobra (lol, how do you spell that?)

[puppiesnkittens]

Originally posted by Kreukie
I believe TPTB said something like that, about how Chloe could do something bad and the fans would make up all the excuses in the world for her, but once Lana (this was before Lois) would do something bad, those same people would be all over Lana even though Chloe most likely did the same thing a few episodes back or worse. :lol:

You are so right. I constantly see Lois and Lana get bashed for *everything* they do but Chloe never gets anything but adored. I cannot imagine why though. :confused:

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Originally posted by Kreukie
I believe TPTB said something like that, about how Chloe could do something bad and the fans would make up all the excuses in the world for her, but once Lana (this was before Lois) would do something bad, those same people would be all over Lana even though Chloe most likely did the same thing a few episodes back or worse. :lol:

Yeah, she was a spy for Lionel... and no one really cares about it.

BUT, at the time she did that I was a huge Chloe fan and totally let her off the hook too. Then I was whiny when Lana did something...

[puppiesnkittens]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
yeah, I don't think anyone could find the chubacobra (lol, how do you spell that?)

Mulder could. :D

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by puppiesnkittens
You are so right. I constantly see Lois and Lana get bashed for *everything* they do but Chloe never gets anything but adored. I cannot imagine why though. :confused:

It's called major double standards and major bias. :D

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by puppiesnkittens
Mulder could. :D

mulder can do anything :p

[puppiesnkittens]

Originally posted by Kreukie
It's called major double standards and major bias. :D

Definitely. ;)


Originally posted by thehenry89
mulder can do anything :p

That is the most true statement I have ever seen. ;) I love Mulder.

[clois_lover10]

Originally posted by puppiesnkittens
You are so right. I constantly see Lois and Lana get bashed for *everything* they do but Chloe never gets anything but adored. I cannot imagine why though. :confused:

I think it's cause Chlark has never really happened in the long-term, while Clana has been going on for 6 seasons straight and there have been anvils for future Clois... stupid writers! :mad:

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Kreukie
It's called major double standards and major bias. :D

exactly. i'm an equal opurtunity finger wagger. if someone does something bad then they deserved to be called out for it. but in this case lois didn't do anything but dig through her own garbage.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by jazel
lol....she was tempted to look at Chloe's laptop, but she didn't !


Sorry, but I don't think that makes that ANY better.

To me, a Lois Lane who can't find her own story is lame.
And, a Lois Lane who has to beg and expect a handout story from her cousin is even WORSE.
Having her dig through the trash just tops it all off as unbelievable.


Originally posted by Kreukie
It's called major double standards and major bias. :D

Whaaa???

I remember when Chloe made the image of Oliver's ring she got hung out to dry about it saying that she held information out on Lois.

Lana and Lois NEVER get punished for their shady deeds, but Chloe?
If it was Chloe digging through the trash to get something Lois had been looking at?
She would have been hung many, many times for it.

[Nightingale20]

Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
This Lois progression was bound to be messy from the get-go....Too many people grew to love Chloe!!

No matter what they do to further Lois in her future career as a journalist, they'll have to upset many core fans of the show. I for one like Lois and Chloe but if they absolutely have to, they can take Chloe off the show to make room for Lois's storyline if they feel so inclined ....yikes Nospam's here...don't hurt me man!! :eek: :D

I don't see why there can't be room for both Lois and Chloe but yeah the writers "friendly competition" between the two sure didn't make it look good and annoyed some Chlo-Lo fans. Ideally, they could write both well and not have them step on each others toes.

[freefall]

Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
This Lois progression was bound to be messy from the get-go....Too many people grew to love Chloe!!

No matter what they do to further Lois in her future career as a journalist, they'll have to upset many core fans of the show. I for one like Lois and Chloe but if they absolutely have to, they can take Chloe off the show to make room for Lois's storyline if they feel so inclined ....yikes Nospam's here...don't hurt me man!! :eek: :D

:lol: So true. Lois has been under the microscope ever since she came to town and like someone else pointed out, we can't imagine the outrage if we have Lois eating the last cookie in the jar.

It's funny in the sense that in some episodes that Lois isn't in, there are even threads bashing her, or if the thread absolutely has nothing to do, Lois would still be brought up in order to shoot her down and to make the other characters look better.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by Routh
Let me just do a chain of events.

- Clark gets the link, username, and password from Oliver Queen.

- Clark GIVES Chloe the link, username, and pass word.

- Clark NOTICES the Kryptonian symbols, and TELLS Chloe to print it out.

- Chloe fails to find out where this is taking place, or the FR-44 in the picture. She throws it away. She gives up.

Where... exactly did Chloe do research?
Well I wouldn't say she given up,she did find out about the connection to belle reeve.If anythin both girls did their share of findin out things tonight but clark did most of the work.So as nospam pointed out neither girl looked great wit investigatin but they both did sumthin.

[Scribe]

So Lois is a crap reporter because she can't find a story that a tabloid would buy. May that have something to do with the fact that she actually likes to have concrete evidence to back up stories like 'I'm from Venus and am having Elvis' love child'?


I think the reason she's on the verge of getting fired is she can't produce the kind of garbage that the Inquisitor would require. Perhap she's leaning to take pride in the kinds of stories she writes (being real that is) and is findin the Inquisitor not apart of that.

[puppiesnkittens]

Originally posted by clois_lover10
I think it's cause Chlark has never really happened in the long-term, while Clana has been going on for 6 seasons straight and there have been anvils for future Clois... stupid writers! :mad:

Maybe so, it does seem that with the 3 leading ladies, in relation to being loved by Clark, Chloe is the underdog. Lana has been his love for 6 years and Lois will be his future. I never understood Clark not liking Chloe in that way, but since it seems that he doesn't she needs to forget about him.

[jimmyolsenblues]

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[Nospam]

Originally posted by puppiesnkittens
You are so right. I constantly see Lois and Lana get bashed for *everything* they do but Chloe never gets anything but adored. I cannot imagine why though. :confused:

Hey, I am one Chloe fan that has come to like if not love Lois. While I think some of her development has been a bit contrived -- few characters on this show could say they haven't -- for the most part things have turned around for Lois. I didn't like the fact that they made her beg for a story, but Lois found the fight club and held her own. I give her that much.

We really have two great characters in Chloe and Lois. Why are we fighting about this?

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by puppiesnkittens


That is the most true statement I have ever seen. ;) I love Mulder.

yup...good old sculder the only ship that ever made sense to me (relationship or otherwise) in primetime television. :D

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by Scribe
I think the reason she's on the verge of getting fired is she can't produce the kind of garbage that the Inquisitor would require. Perhap she's leaning to take pride in the kinds of stories she writes (being real that is) and is findin the Inquisitor not apart of that.

In "Arrow", Lois made no qualms about stretching the truth when Oliver called her on it.

"Combat" showed that she will do whatever it takes to keep her job at The Inquisitor, so she must like it.

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Originally posted by Routh
Let me just do a chain of events.

- Clark gets the link, username, and password from Oliver Queen.

- Clark GIVES Chloe the link, username, and pass word.

- Clark NOTICES the Kryptonian symbols, and TELLS Chloe to print it out.

- Chloe fails to find out where this is taking place, or the FR-44 in the picture. She throws it away. She gives up.

Where... exactly did Chloe do research?

This is awesome! I agree! Good point!!!

Lol, Clark did most of the work in this episode.

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by seacrystal

It's funny in the sense that in some episodes that Lois isn't in, there are even threads bashing her, or if the thread absolutely has nothing to do, Lois would still be brought up in order to shoot her down and to make the other characters look better.

omg...isn't it so sad to see threads like that?! Makes me feel bad for ED! :lol:


Originally posted by Nightingale20

I don't see why there can't be room for both Lois and Chloe but yeah the writers "friendly competition" between the two sure didn't make it look good and annoyed some Chlo-Lo fans. Ideally, they could write both well and not have them step on each others toes.

Yeah maybe if you or I were the writers! :D :lol:

[Scribe]

Yeah and as I said, she might be learning to be a better journalist. Besides there's stretching the truth and fabricating it entirely

[freefall]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
I remember when Chloe made the image of Oliver's ring she got hung out to dry about it saying that she held information out on Lois.


And you're getting on Lois' case for pictures that has been thrown into the trash can by Saint Chloe herself, not to mention she said it's a dead story. Not even on the same level on how Chloe said in that snotty tone of hers, "However I may have forgotton to mention to Lois..."


Originally posted by savingpeoplething

Lana and Lois NEVER get punished for their shady deeds, but Chloe?
If it was Chloe digging through the trash to get something Lois had been looking at?
She would have been hung many, many times for it.

Give us some credit here. Plenty of Lois' fans are also Chloe fans, I even let her off the hook and wasn't that mad with her character when I first watched Chloe betraying Clark. It's only when some people turn to Lois bashing it gets ugly with the whole Chloe vs. Lois thing.

[aqgalaxy]

May I remind people that Chloe Threw OUT THE PICTURE BECAUSE HER COFFEE SPILT ALL OVER IT... AND CAN'T AFFORD THE INK FOR THE PRINTER!!!

Chloe did some research SHE found the head of this fighting ring

Chloe researched all the mutants that were in Bel Reve and ALSO

Chloe found out Titan was free Lance

All she couldn't do was find the Location...

So Chloe did her share too

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by Scribe
Besides there's stretching the truth and fabricating it entirely

I'm fairly sure a lie is a lie is a lie.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
This Lois progression was bound to be messy from the get-go....Too many people grew to love Chloe!!

No matter what they do to further Lois in her future career as a journalist, they'll have to upset many core fans of the show. I for one like Lois and Chloe but if they absolutely have to, they can take Chloe off the show to make room for Lois's storyline if they feel so inclined ....yikes Nospam's here...don't hurt me man!! :eek: :D

Ohhhhhhh, I don't like hearing that. I agree though, things are beginning to be flare up between Chloe and Lois in the sense that we have two species occupying the same ecological niche. Evolution in action!

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
In "Arrow", Lois made no qualms about stretching the truth when Oliver called her on it.

two completly differnent situations. in arrow she was trying to smoke out the green arrow. in combat her editor was making her look for evidence on the existance of a mythical goat sucker.

i suppose if her editor told her to find evidence of the existance of fraggle rock it would be expected of ILL to do so.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Question: What does Lois bring to the show concerning character growth? Other than her own?

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething


"Combat" showed that she will do whatever it takes to keep her job at The Inquisitor, so she must like it.

not neccascarly. Lois, like most people, enjoys the finer things in life like a roof over her head, and not having to eat honey packets from the coffee bar.

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by thehenry89
two completly differnent situations. in arrow she was trying to smoke out the green arrow. in combat her editor was making her look for evidence on the existance of a mythical goat sucker.

i suppose if her editor told her to find evidence of the existance of fraggle rock it would be expected of ILL to do so.

A lie is a lie is a lie.
If Lois doesn't like doing it, she could always quit.
Instead, she begs her cousin for a story so that she can keep her crap tabloid job and takes the stuff Chloe was looking at to use for her own gain.
Justify it all you want, but what Lois did was outright dirty and lazy.

[freefall]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
May I remind people that Chloe Threw OUT THE PICTURE BECAUSE HER COFFEE SPILT ALL OVER IT... AND CAN'T AFFORD THE INK FOR THE PRINTER!!!

Come on. You're saying Chloe's super printer couldn't print another one?

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Question: What does Lois bring to the show concerning character growth? Other than her own?

clarks charachter growth. if she hadn't been there for him in pariah that sand guy would be dead, and clark would be a cold blooded murderer and most likely be serving 25 to life.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Come on. You're saying Chloe's super printer couldn't print another one?

You know she was using regular paper

ALSO that Picture USED ALOT of Ink... she isn't going to waste her ink on somethng that was only going to be USED ONCE

She made the Picture... for the purpose of the symbols

Clark told her what it meant thus no more need for it...

[Ireallylikethisshow]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
May I remind people that Chloe Threw OUT THE PICTURE BECAUSE HER COFFEE SPILT ALL OVER IT... AND CAN'T AFFORD THE INK FOR THE PRINTER!!!

Chloe did some research SHE found the head of this fighting ring

Chloe researched all the mutants that were in Bel Reve and ALSO

Chloe found out Titan was free Lance

All she couldn't do was find the Location...

So Chloe did her share too

Um... titan being freelance wasn't really a big discovery, just more of an explaination.

Oliver's tip to Clark, Chloe just went online... and filled in the password and sn Oliver gave...

Chloe did do her share, BUT Clark did the majority of it... but isn't that a good thing? He needs to be able to report also.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
Um... titan being freelance wasn't really a big discovery, just more of an explaination.

Oliver's tip to Clark, Chloe just went online... and filled in the password and sn Oliver gave...

Chloe did do her share, BUT Clark did the majority of it... but isn't that a good thing? He needs to be able to report also.

It is a good thing he did his share and is more active

I am just mentioning to the people who say WHAT DID CHLOE DO?

I mean she did her share LIKE you mentioned...

Just defending my girl can't blame me can you?

[SecretzNLyz15]

So..because Lois stopped Clark from killing a guy made of sand..she contributes to his character? Umm..I think anyone would have stepped up to stop him..she's not special.

[Mauve]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Question: What does Lois bring to the show concerning character growth? Other than her own?


Lois brings her own character growth. Chloe is just a stool for the others.

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by Nospam
Ohhhhhhh, I don't like hearing that. I agree though, things are beginning to be flare up between Chloe and Lois in the sense that we have two species occupying the same ecological niche. Evolution in action!

Its like two territorial felions!

CATFIGHT!! oops daydreaming again..heh heh...:\ :D

[Routh]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Question: What does Lois bring to the show concerning character growth? Other than her own?
Heh, I think you mean Lana.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
So..because Lois stopped Clark from killing a guy made of sand..she contributes to his character? Umm..I think anyone would have stepped up to stop him..she's not special.

regardless of whether or not you belive it's signigagant that she kept future superman from becoming a killer she's on the show. that's all i can say.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
It is a good thing he did his share and is more active

I am just mentioning to the people who say WHAT DID CHLOE DO?

I mean she did her share LIKE you mentioned...

Just defending my girl can't blame me can you?

I won't blame you aqgalaxy.:)

[freefall]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
You know she was using regular paper

ALSO that Picture USED ALOT of Ink... she isn't going to waste her ink on somethng that was only going to be USED ONCE

She made the Picture... for the purpose of the symbols

Clark told her what it meant thus no more need for it...

:lol: If this is the debate thread, I'd definitely insist you provide canon proof that picture uses a lot of ink, and Chloe is very thrifty with her printer inks. Otherwise it's just pure speculation on your part :D

And anyway, Lois used the spilled-on picture too, and still she could notice something that Chloe failed.


Originally posted by savingpeoplething
A lie is a lie is a lie.
If Lois doesn't like doing it, she could always quit.
Instead, she begs her cousin for a job and takes the stuff she was looking at to use for her own gain.
Justify it all you want, but what Lois did was outright dirty and lazy.

And justify it all you want, but Chloe taking up the end of the deal with Lionel and betraying Clark, with her column at the DP for three whole months is dirtier than anything Lois has done, not to mention she got called up by the DP because she made that deal in that first place.

[Scribe]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Question: What does Lois bring to the show concerning character growth? Other than her own?

She shows Clark that there are women out there who don't think he's the centre of the universe. Until Lois showed up, a good many fans were ready to give up on the show, having endured four years of two girls basically fighting over Clark with passive jijitsu.

And I'm sorry but downright dirty and lazy? I seem to recall that instead of investigating, the first thing that Chloe did upon learning she had the power to make people tell her the truth was to go and ferret out secrets that she had no right to.

Futhermore wasn't it Chloe that agreed to spy for Lionel when she was pissed at Clark and landed herself a DP column from high school?

I don't think Chloe's integrity is canonization material either.

[Deana]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
So..because Lois stopped Clark from killing a guy made of sand..she contributes to his character? Umm..I think anyone would have stepped up to stop him..she's not special. Any character that does not turn him into a simpering mass of goo contributes to him. :lol:

Don't take this as a Lana diss. I like Lana. Can't blame her if Clark is obsessed with her. His hangup not hers...

[pleasenoclois]

I forsee Chloe finding out about this by seeing Lois's story on the front page of the inquisitor and/or by Clark telling her. She will be seriously pissed and will move out of the apartment and back into the dorms since I think they are reopened and there will be some more serious head butting between Lois and Chloe in the future and/or their relationship will seriously suffer.

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Routh
Heh, I think you mean Lana.

Oh here we go..always have to bring in Lana.

She's in the main three..she's more important than your precious Lois.

Whether you accept it or not..Lana has helped character growth over the seasons.

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by seacrystal
:lol: If this is the debate thread, I'd definitely insist you provide canon proof that picture uses a lot of ink, and Chloe is very thrifty with her printer inks. Otherwise it's just pure speculation on your part :D

And anyway, Lois used the spilled-on picture too, and still she could notice something that Chloe failed.


Amen!! :lol:

[SnarkMasterJ]

Oh great. A thread about EDLois's actions, and we've still managed to get a mention of Chloe's deal with Lionel three seasons ago. Past is the past, eh?

[freefall]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
I forsee Chloe finding out about this by seeing Lois's story on the front page of the inquisitor and/or by Clark telling her. She will be seriously pissed and will move out of the apartment and back into the dorms since I think they are reopened and there will be some more serious head butting between Lois and Chloe in the future and/or their relationship will seriously suffer.

Chloe moving out of Lois' apartment in a huff? Good riddance I say :D Go live with her father instead. But I highly doubt Lois would allow that anyway.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by myankskent
I won't blame you aqgalaxy.:)

Thank you myankskent

Any consideration

I don't Think Lois tried stealing Chloe's story...

There have been times where the same Story is reported in a Tabloid and a regular Paper... Who knows if Lois would have shared it you know

I just wish she had that FLASH turned off on the camera, that showed a little ignorance of the field if you catch my drift..

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Oh here we go..always have to bring in Lana.

She's in the main three..she's more important than your precious Lois.

Whether you accept it or not..Lana has helped character growth over the seasons.

by doing what exactly? spouting nonsense about "secrets and lies" keeping clark from ever growing up. constantly holding people to strenious moral standards, and then dismissing them as mere technicalities when it comes to herself. i'm sorry but if lois is pointless on this show, then lana is beyond pointless. she's a black hole of charachter regression, and she's continually sucking clark and lex into her vortex half truths whole lies, and basic disregard for the standards of decent people.

[Deana]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
I forsee Chloe finding out about this by seeing Lois's story on the front page of the inquisitor and/or by Clark telling her. She will be seriously pissed and will move out of the apartment and back into the dorms since I think they are reopened and there will be some more serious head butting between Lois and Chloe in the future and/or their relationship will seriously suffer. Ch-Lo would beg to differ. I thought Chloe was being so evasive so Lois would not get involved. So Lois would not sniff after Clark, or get herself hurt for always jumping right into the thick of things.

[Luv Clana/Hate Lexana]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Question: What does Lois bring to the show concerning character growth? Other than her own?

Her fashion sense!

All joking aside, I've wondered that too. Never came up with an answer. I've thought some of her comments have been funny, worth a laugh or two, but other than that... Really not sure why she's in Smallville.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
She's in the main three..she's more important than your precious Lois.

My god, she is Clark's future wife for the saking of Pete. Really, Clark and Lex are the "big two" and Lana is just a used rag they pass around. :\


Whether you accept it or not..Lana has helped character growth over the seasons.

Growth? For who? Shelby? I guess you could say that Lana has allowed Clark the opportunity to expand his moping range, but other that that...

[myankskent]

Originally posted by thehenry89
by doing what exactly? spouting nonsense about "secrets and lies" keeping clark from ever growing up. constantly holding people to strenious moral standards, and then dismissing them as mere technicalities when it comes to herself. i'm sorry but if lois is pointless on this show, then lana is beyond pointless. she's a black hole of charachter regression, and she's continually sucking clark and lex into her vortex half truths whole lies, and basic disregard for the standards of decent people.

I like the fact that you used the season 2 premier episode title name in this post, good use of "Vortex" if I may say so myself.:D

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by Deana
Ch-Lo would beg to differ. I thought Chloe was being so evasive so Lois would not get involved. So Lois would not sniff after Clark, or get herself hurt for always jumping right into the thick of things.

I totally agree, but I do think she will be pissed that Lois did what she did.

[BadToad]

I was just disappointed that Lois is finding a story by trying to get one from her cousin. This sort of action just doesn't do anything to advance Lois' character, or help us to believe that she's great journalist material. I'm not so bothered that she pulled the picture out of the garbage (if she had opened the computer, that would have SUCKED), but I'm just not fond of the way the got Lois into the story. I'd have preferred to see Lois stumble into the story all on her own. And I also would've liked to see her snooping around a bit more before she got caught.

I liked the episode, but I was really disappointed in the Lois part of it. It seemed, IMO, very poorly developed, and did nothing really for her character development. And when ED's only got 13 eps, I hate to see them wasted in any way.

[freefall]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Oh great. A thread about EDLois's actions, and we've still managed to get a mention of Chloe's deal with Lionel three seasons ago. Past is the past, eh?

What do you expect? Just look at the way some people bashed Lana and painting her as a villain just for wanting to know the truth about Clark in Promise.

I think majority of the fans hardly cried foul when Chloe betrayed Clark anyway, but people can't ignore the exact reason WHY Chloe's betrayal is being brought up over and over again, when people are defending Lois or Lana.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by seacrystal
:lol: If this is the debate thread, I'd definitely insist you provide canon proof that picture uses a lot of ink, and Chloe is very thrifty with her printer inks. Otherwise it's just pure speculation on your part :D

And anyway, Lois used the spilled-on picture too, and still she could notice something that Chloe failed.



I can't offer canon proof but REAL LIFE Proof... I HAVE THE EXACT SAME PRINTER AND BELIEVE ME it uses alot of ink with images...

And listen to her comment to Clark as she threw the picture away... She wasn't able to study it

As for Lois... she studied the Picture and noticed the symbols obviously her saying her reason she knew about the place to Athena was true... It was an Army Base...

Possibly the one where the General and Lois were at in Season 4?

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by thehenry89
by doing what exactly? spouting nonsense about "secrets and lies" keeping clark from ever growing up. constantly holding people to strenious moral standards, and then dismissing them as mere technicalities when it comes to herself. i'm sorry but if lois is pointless on this show, then lana is beyond pointless. she's a black hole of charachter regression, and she's continually sucking clark and lex into her vortex half truths whole lies, and basic disregard for the standards of decent people.

Well..Lana has taught Clark about humanity. And she's turning Lex into the evil MB that he's supposed to be...I see the Iconic characters coming into light..and it's not because of Lois.

[Deana]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Oh great. A thread about EDLois's actions, and we've still managed to get a mention of Chloe's deal with Lionel three seasons ago. Past is the past, eh? Well, the other side using things in the past they contrived that Lois did to bash her. The Pot Calling the Kettle Black.

If you drop Chloe's deal because it is past, drop Lois's past. Only fair. ;)

[lillie_poo_pod]

Ok question??

Why tha hell is Lana part of this dicussion??

[myankskent]

I'm still trying to figure out how Lana exactly was brought into this discussion.:confused:

EDIT: :rotfl: lillie_poo_pod, you had the same idea as me.

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
I can't offer canon proof but REAL LIFE Proof... I HAVE THE EXACT SAME PRINTER AND BELIEVE ME it uses alot of ink with images...

And listen to her comment to Clark as she threw the picture away... She wasn't able to study it

As for Lois... she studied the Picture and noticed the symbols obviously her saying her reason she knew about the place to Athena was true... It was an Army Base...

Possibly the one where the General and Lois were at in Season 4?

Lois said to Athena that she came to that base with her dad all the time.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Well..Lana has taught Clark about humanity. And she's turning Lex into the evil MB that he's supposed to be...I see the Iconic characters coming into light..and it's not because of Lois.

forgive me, but johnathan and martha kent taught clark about humanity. lana taught him how to advance his stalking techniques. Lex was evil looooong before he ever started dating lana. he's always shown signs of egomania even back in season one.

[aqgalaxy]

^ Yeah what is up with Lana being mentioned?

[Mauve]

Please.


Lana is the biggest plot device of all.

I have yet to see an instance where she could stand within her own stories and have advancement outside of Lex and Clark.

They don't care where Lana goes as long as she's there to fill the 'dasmel-in'distress' role. Even Kristin Kreuk, the actress who portrays her knows of this and she hates it.

That should tell you something.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
Lois said to Athena that she came to that base with her dad all the time.

Thanks for adding that to my argument :)

[SecretzNLyz15]

Originally posted by Nospam


My god, she is Clark's future wife for the saking of Pete. Really, Clark and Lex are the "big two" and Lana is just a used rag they pass around. :\



Growth? For who? Shelby? I guess you could say that Lana has allowed Clark the opportunity to expand his moping range, but other that that... [/B]

Ah..key word Future wife. The writers made it clear in Crimson.."This is the present"...and the present means Lana.

If you want Clois..watch Superman..this is the teenage years of Clark Kent..Smallville..Lana is Smallville...Lois is Metropolis.

I didn't bring Lana up..Routh did.

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by Nospam


My god, she is Clark's future wife for the saking of Pete. Really, Clark and Lex are the "big two" and Lana is just a used rag they pass around. :\ [/B]

Yikes...I smell a Lana="Dirty Rag" theory coming in the Spoilers section :D

On this show (for those who hate to admit it) Chloe is the man! Yeah she may be attracted to boneheads like Clark and Jimmy but shes in control of What Clark knows for the most part. You saw how he almost flipped out on her for not knowing every detail earlier in this episode!! Clark was probably thinking "Fiddlesticks!! Chloe can't spoonfeed me all the info at the moment!! Dag Nabbit! She needs to up her game! Im useless without her krypto-freakish investigative powers!!!"

[lillie_poo_pod]

Originally posted by myankskent
I'm still trying to figure out how Lana exactly was brought into this discussion.:confused:

EDIT: :rotfl: lillie_poo_pod, you had the same idea as me.

:rotfl: :rotfl: Glad I'm not the only one trippin about that. I'm up here going back n forth between pages tryin to figure out y the hell Lana was even mentioned

[Absentee]

When "Fever" came out and Lana read Chloe's letter, all hell broke loose and people called Lana all sorts of name.

But now that it's Lois doing the snooping, it's ok because she's "Lois Lane"? Come on. :rolleyes:

Just because we all know what type of person she is in the future does not make it right. Lois should've just shrugged it off and got her story elsewhere.

What she did was wrong. Period. It doesn't matter if she was desperate to get a story. A reporter destined to be at the top of her game should NOT be begging and pleading. Lois wants a story? She needs to work hard to get it.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Deana
Well, the other side using things in the past they contrived that Lois did to bash her. The Pot Calling the Kettle Black.

If you drop Chloe's deal because it is past, drop Lois's past. Only fair. ;)

No one dropped Chloe's deal. Get your facts straight. She's been held responsible for it by everyone, including her fans. It was wrong, she shouldn't have done, and she was made to repent for it.

Funny how it doesn't seem anyone can admit what EDLois did here was underhanded and wrong, and she won't be held accountable for what really mattered from all this. She was so desperate for a story, she was begging her cousin. And when she didn't get her way, she thought seriously about looking at Chloe's laptop before resorting to trash rummaging.

Just let that sink in.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by Absentee
When "Fever" came out and Lana read Chloe's letter, all hell broke loose and people called Lana all sorts of name.

But now that it's Lois doing the snooping, it's ok because she's "Lois Lane"? Come on. :rolleyes:

Just because we all know what type of person she is in the future does not make it right. Lois should've just shrugged it off and got her story elsewhere.

What she did was wrong. Period. It doesn't matter if she was desperate to get a story. A reporter destined to be at the top of her game should NOT be begging and pleading. Lois wants a story? She needs to work hard to get it.

Ok... um Lana read the note and didn't she keep it? I dunno...

Anywho...

Lois HAD to find a story or else the money flow will be cut...

so she is in this for the money....

But hey I think it sucks that We get Lois a bit in this episode and the next she is gone...

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Originally posted by Deana
Well, the other side using things in the past they contrived that Lois did to bash her. The Pot Calling the Kettle Black.

If you drop Chloe's deal because it is past, drop Lois's past. Only fair. ;)

I agree.

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by boywithbluehanger
Yikes...I smell a Lana="Dirty Rag" theory coming in the Spoilers section :D

On this show (for those who hate to admit it) Chloe is the man! Yeah she may be attracted to boneheads like Clark and Jimmy but shes in control of What Clark knows for the most part. You saw how he almost flipped out on her for not knowing every detail earlier in this episode!! Clark was probably thinking "Fiddlesticks!! Chloe can't spoonfeed me all the info at the moment!! Dag Nabbit! She needs to up her game! Im useless without her krypto-freakish investigative powers!!!"

I know this thread is about Chloe and Lois BUT

WHAT THE HECK IS UP WITH CLARK TREATING CHLOE LIKE CRAP SO OFTEN THIS SEASON!?!?!??! seriously

[Deana]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
No one dropped Chloe's deal. Get your facts straight. She's been held responsible for it by everyone, including her fans. It was wrong, she shouldn't have done, and she was made to repent for it.

Funny how it doesn't seem anyone can admit what EDLois did here was underhanded and wrong, and she won't be held accountable for what really mattered from all this. She was so desperate for a story, she was begging her cousin. And when she didn't get her way, she thought seriously about looking at Chloe's laptop before resorting to trash rummaging.

Just let that sink in. *jeapardy theme plays* Oh yeah, it sunk in when I watched it.

Lois will be Lois. Cousin or not. :p

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Absentee
When "Fever" came out and Lana read Chloe's letter, all hell broke loose and people called Lana all sorts of name.

But now that it's Lois doing the snooping, it's ok because she's "Lois Lane"? Come on. :rolleyes:

Just because we all know what type of person she is in the future does not make it right. Lois should've just shrugged it off and got her story elsewhere.

What she did was wrong. Period. It doesn't matter if she was desperate to get a story. A reporter destined to be at the top of her game should NOT be begging and pleading. Lois wants a story? She needs to work hard to get it.

i honestly didn't care about lana digging through the trash in fever. it was garbage if you don't want someone finding it don't leave it were it's readily accesable by the general public. on that same token i don't care about lois digging through her own garbage in her own house it's not a big deal. neither lois nor lana did anything wrong.

[freefall]

Originally posted by Absentee
When "Fever" came out and Lana read Chloe's letter, all hell broke loose and people called Lana all sorts of name.

But now that it's Lois doing the snooping, it's ok because she's "Lois Lane"? Come on. :rolleyes:

Just because we all know what type of person she is in the future does not make it right. Lois should've just shrugged it off and got her story elsewhere.

What she did was wrong. Period. It doesn't matter if she was desperate to get a story. A reporter destined to be at the top of her game should NOT be begging and pleading. Lois wants a story? She needs to work hard to get it.

I'm very sure Lana only started being brought into the discussion because people are duking it out about "Whose Apartment It Is?" since Lois getting the picture from the trash can. Technically speaking, the apartment is actually Lana's to some degree, and is fully owned by Lex's :)


Originally posted by BadToad
I was just disappointed that Lois is finding a story by trying to get one from her cousin. This sort of action just doesn't do anything to advance Lois' character, or help us to believe that she's great journalist material. I'm not so bothered that she pulled the picture out of the garbage (if she had opened the computer, that would have SUCKED), but I'm just not fond of the way the got Lois into the story.

I liked the episode, but I was really disappointed in the Lois part of it. It seemed, IMO, very poorly developed, and did nothing really for her character development.

She noticed stuff that Chloe couldn't manage too, and she found out about the fight club on her own. That's a pretty good indications of her journalistic instincts at least.

Lois Lane from the mythos itself has always been portrayed as someone who has a gut feeling so intense it's almost supernatural, or he knack of noticing the most minute detail, like the way she commented about the Jimmy Choo's shoes in Exposed. It takes more than just a flair for words to be a hardcore journalist.

[lillie_poo_pod]

My 2 cents. If Lois wasn't the General's daughter she would not have even know about that.

I don't think diggin in the trash is bad. But I DO think that her having to beg Chloe for a story does nothing for her in terms of character development.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
My 2 cents. If Lois wasn't the General's daughter she would not have even know about that.

I don't think diggin in the trash is bad. But I DO think that her having to beg Chloe for a story does nothing for her in terms of character development.

i agree about the begging part it was a stupid line, but the garbage thing it's just riddiculus.

[lillie_poo_pod]

Originally posted by seacrystal
I'm very sure Lana only started being brought into the discussion because people are duking it out about "Whose Apartment It Is?" since Lois getting the picture from the trash can. Technically speaking, the apartment is actually Lana's to some degree, and is fully owned by Lex's :)

.


AHHHHHH OK! :) I still don't understand y Lana is still being discussed though.

[Mischael12]

Originally posted by SecretzNLyz15
Well..Lana has taught Clark about humanity. And she's turning Lex into the evil MB that he's supposed to be...I see the Iconic characters coming into light..and it's not because of Lois.

Ehh..not really...Clark's Parents taught him about Humanity. though i don't like how Martha was all like those feelings make you human, i'm pretty sure Kryptonians also experienced those emotions.

Lex was on that evil path anyway, the moment him and CLark stopped being friends it went down hill. His obsession with her is nothing more but a step back for him.

Same with Clark, his obsession with her has kept him from doing what he should have done. SHe has not contributed to the growth of the characters she has helped stunt them, and caused the death of several other characters as well, or contributed to them.

As well Lois begging for a story why is that CLark can get away with things by saying "he's not superman yet" but if Lois was to mess up its oh no. This isn't ILL this is LL she isn't there yet, she has the potential but it isn't her completely.

Her begging for a story, hey sometimes you got to get on your knees for the things you need. She isn't working for the DP she is working for the Inquisitor--At a job like that why would you be surprised if someone is begging? They are like Paparazzi they'll do anything.

As well going through the trash, notice on the Laptop it was on Belle Reve, the picture in the garbage had nothing to do with Belle Reve.

Just like Clark isn't Superman yet, and lex isn't LEX LUTHOR: CRIMINAL MASTERMIND, they all need the push. And Prototype and Phantom might be the push Lois needs.

As well i think they have destroyed the whole Chlois thing for Smallville considering Chloe has a meteor power--if she turns out to be Lois Lane--the uproar will be pretty F-uped.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Deana
*jeapardy theme plays* Oh yeah, it sunk in when I watched it.

Lois will be Lois. Cousin or not. :p

Well I'm glad for your mature approach. Seeing as how I wasn't even bringing up Chlois in the first place. Nice.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by thehenry89
i honestly didn't care about lana digging through the trash in fever. it was garbage if you don't want someone finding it don't leave it were it's readily accesable by the general public. on that same token i don't care about lois digging through her own garbage in her own house it's not a big deal. neither lois nor lana did anything wrong.

Totally agree.

[akksgurl]

Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention (this episode was putting me to sleep, quite honestly) but wasn't the picture Lois dug from the trash the one Chloe spilled coffee on in the beginning of the scene? Then her and Clark saw the Kryptonian symbols on Titan's arm while it was freeze framed on the computer. She zoomed in on his arm. That's when Lois came in and she shut the computer. Did she print it again and throw it away again? :confused:

I hate EDLois. I won't deny it. I kept hoping somebody would kill her during this episode. :lol: Nonetheless, finding something accidentally in the garbage wasn't totally annoying to me. Because it was accidental. She didn't wait until Chloe left and then drop to her hands and knees to dig into the garbage. She found it when throwing away her cup.

What actually caught my attention more was the way Lois looked at Chloe's computer for a beat longer than she should have. It was obvious to me that she was actually considering breaking into her cousins' computer and stealing her work. Couple that with the music playing in the background (sounded like something they should reserve for Lionel or Lex, IMO) and I definitely think we could be seeing the next Lois arc.

[freefall]

Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
My 2 cents. If Lois wasn't the General's daughter she would not have even know about that.

I don't think diggin in the trash is bad. But I DO think that her having to beg Chloe for a story does nothing for her in terms of character development.

And if Lois' isn't the General's daughter, she's definitely dead meat the moment Athena pointed that gun in her face.

That's what makes her character so interesting. She has a turbulent relationship with her father, but it's also because of her father's upbringing and the way he treats her Lois is the way she is today.

[Deana]

Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
My 2 cents. If Lois wasn't the General's daughter she would not have even know about that.

I don't think diggin in the trash is bad. But I DO think that her having to beg Chloe for a story does nothing for her in terms of character development. Look at it this way. Lois thinks Chloe wears her heart on her sleeve. The opportunist in her tried to go for the jugular but Chloe resisted.

Lois tried to pull at Clark but got shot down. :D


Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Well I'm glad for your mature approach. Seeing as how I wasn't even bringing up Chlois in the first place. Nice. That was not a Chlois answer. It is a Lois fact. She will be herself no matter what. Lois will be Lois.

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by akksgurl
Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention (this episode was putting me to sleep, quite honestly) but wasn't the picture Lois dug from the trash the one Chloe spilled coffee on in the beginning of the scene? Then her and Clark saw the Kryptonian symbols on Titan's arm while it was freeze framed on the computer. She zoomed in on his arm. That's when Lois came in and she shut the computer. Did she print it again and throw it away again? :confused:

I hate EDLois. I won't deny it. I kept hoping somebody would kill her during this episode. :lol: Nonetheless, finding something accidentally in the garbage wasn't totally annoying to me. Because it was accidental. She didn't wait until Chloe left and then drop to her hands and knees to dig into the garbage. She found it when throwing away her cup.

What actually caught my attention more was the way Lois looked at Chloe's computer for a beat longer than she should have. It was obvious to me that she was actually considering breaking into her cousins' computer and stealing her work. Couple that with the music playing in the background (sounded like something they should reserve for Lionel or Lex, IMO) and I definitely think we could be seeing the next Lois arc.

TOTALLY AGREE!!!! Well said, well said.

[lillie_poo_pod]

Originally posted by seacrystal
And if Lois' isn't the General's daughter, she's definitely dead meat the moment Athena pointed that gun in her face.

That's what makes her character so interesting. She has a turbulent relationship with her father, but it's also because of her father's upbringing and the way he treats her Lois is the way she is today.

I agree the way she is today is because of her upbringing but Lois could have gotten out of the whole gun thing without being the General's daughter. Chloe did. Twice (Hidden and the one with the Krypto ho...um.........Hypnotic!)

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by akksgurl
What actually caught my attention more was the way Lois looked at Chloe's computer for a beat longer than she should have. It was obvious to me that she was actually considering breaking into her cousins' computer and stealing her work. Couple that with the music playing in the background (sounded like something they should reserve for Lionel or Lex, IMO) and I definitely think we could be seeing the next Lois arc.

My take as well, as far as the computer lusting was concerned. There was an obvious moment there, and it was put there for a reason.

[freefall]

Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
AHHHHHH OK! :) I still don't understand y Lana is still being discussed though.

I can help you out there :D It's because someone said Lois had no purpose on this show, has no development at all, and then someone else said, it's Lana who has no purpose on this show.

It's just the nature of the beast I guess :p You can never ever have a Chloe, Lana, Lois discussion without bringing in the other two.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
My take as well, as far as the computer lusting was concerned. There was an obvious moment there, and it was put there for a reason.


i agree. it showed that she was tempted to look but she made the right descsion and didn't.

[Deana]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
My take as well, as far as the computer lusting was concerned. There was an obvious moment there, and it was put there for a reason. What would Chloe do in this situation?

They are journalist. Chloe would have had the same look. I'm sure she would have chose not to look, just like Lois.

Seriously, if that was anybody other than Chloe and one of Lois's close friends, that cpu would be Loisjacked. :rotfl:

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by thehenry89
i agree. it showed that she was tempted to look but she made the right descsion and didn't.

And then made the wrong decision and used Chloe coffee spilled on info without getting permission for a story that may have been Chloe's for all she knew.

[lillie_poo_pod]

Originally posted by seacrystal
I can help you out there :D It's because someone said Lois had no purpose on this show, has no development at all, and then someone else said, it's Lana who has no purpose on this show.

It's just the nature of the beast I guess :p You can never ever have a Chloe, Lana, Lois discussion without bringing in the other two.

GOTCHA! Thanks cuz I was truely lost on that note.

*whispers*
O and I think Lana's purpose on this show ran its course back in S3, she should have stayed in Paris. :) BUT HEY! THAT'S JUST ME!

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
And then made the wrong decision and used Chloe coffee pilled on info without getting permission.

o so she needs permission to look through the garbage. please.

like i've said before i defy someone to tell me i need permisson to look in my own garbage.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
And then made the wrong decision and used Chloe coffee pilled on info without getting permission.

She needs permission from Chloe to look at a piece of paper in the trash? Sorry, I don't agree.

[Cyn]

Yeah, it sucks that Lois was reduced to begging for a handout. However, it was pretty fricking awesome how quickly she lept ahead of the competition (Clark & Chloe) when she found the most basic of clue's in the garbage. Her interacton with Athena was so cool. None of the other women from Smallvile could have come close. I believe if Titan hadn't been an alien or a meteor freak that Lois would have ruled.


On the other hand, what's up with the red pleather? This is like saying, I am the target so you should aim for me. Lois should have only wore this after she was captured.

[lillie_poo_pod]

Originally posted by Deana
What would Chloe do in this situation?

They are journalist. Chloe would have had the same look. I'm sure she would have chose not to look, just like Lois.

Seriously, if that was anybody other than Chloe and one of Lois's close friends, that cpu would be Loisjacked. :rotfl:


True. That's the difference between Lois wanting to take a peak and Lana actually opening and trying to find stuff on Chloe's PC.

[pleasenoclois]

Lois could have come out of this looking good if she had called Chloe or Clark, let them know what she found out, and then worked with them on all of this. If that had happened I would have had to give props to Lois. But it didn't.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Deana
What would Chloe do in this situation?

They are journalist. Chloe would have had the same look. I'm sure she would have chose not to look, just like Lois.

Seriously, if that was anybody other than Chloe and one of Lois's close friends, that cpu would be Loisjacked. :rotfl:

This isn't about journalism. This is about EDLois contemplating stealing from her cousin, not to mention violating her privacy, just so she could get the story she wanted. I honestly don't even know what Chloe has to do with this, other than it was her laptop that EDLois was thinking about raping for information.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
Lois could have come out of this looking good if she had called Chloe or Clark, let them know what she found out, and then worked with them on all of this. If that had happened I would have had to give props to Lois. But it didn't.

now she has to share her information with a competing jounalist. i'm sorry but that's ludicris. does chloe call lois whenever she gets new information for whatever story she's writting...i think not.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
This isn't about journalism. This is about EDLois contemplating stealing from her cousin, not to mention violating her privacy, just so she could get the story she wanted. I honestly don't even know what Chloe has to do with this, other than it was her laptop that EDLois was thinking about raping for information.

Lois didn't look on the computer, she may have contemplated doing it, but I'd like to think that because it was her cousin, she didn't look.

[boywithbluehanger]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
This isn't about journalism. This is about EDLois contemplating stealing from her cousin, not to mention violating her privacy, just so she could get the story she wanted. I honestly don't even know what Chloe has to do with this, other than it was her laptop that EDLois was thinking about raping for information.

I don't think anyone disagrees that it was wrong of Lois to contemplate looking at her cousins work...

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by thehenry89
now she has to share her information with a competing jounalist. i'm sorry but that's ludicris. does chloe call lois whenever she gets new information for whatever story she's writting...i think not.

But the whole point of this thread is about Lois ripping off Chloe's story (Note I don't think she did)

So saying she was willing to share info would have avoided the Lois angts which this thread was meant to bring

get me?

She doesn't need to share infor in EVERY STORY just the one people think she stole from Chloe...

[meteor_phreak]

well, i'm not gonna read this whole thread until i'm bored at work tomorrow...but the difference between lana and lois is this:

1. lois doesn't have a history of this.
2. lois didn't understand the full scope of what she was getting into. she thought she was going to find a story lead. lana knew she was digging into a supposed friend's history on another friend's property.

[freefall]

Originally posted by Deana
What would Chloe do in this situation?

They are journalist. Chloe would have had the same look. I'm sure she would have chose not to look, just like Lois.

Seriously, if that was anybody other than Chloe and one of Lois's close friends, that cpu would be Loisjacked. :rotfl:

I'd say every true journalist would definitely has that kind of urge. Just look at the way how Perry has no qualms to expose Clark, even though Clark has been nothing but a friend to him, or the way he treated Lana and 16-year-old Lex just to get stories. Does that mean Perry is a bad guy? Of course not, it's simply because he isn't close or attached with his sources.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
This isn't about journalism. This is about EDLois contemplating stealing from her cousin, not to mention violating her privacy, just so she could get the story she wanted. I honestly don't even know what Chloe has to do with this, other than it was her laptop that EDLois was thinking about raping for information.

again she didn't open the laptop, she didn't open chloe's mail. she threw away a coffee cup and found a peice of trash in (suprise suprise) the trash. if it was SO important and vital to chloe and clark's mission it would not have been in the wast basket. that would be like the CIA leaving classified mission statments in the public wast recepticle outside the new york times.

[Deana]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
This isn't about journalism. This is about EDLois contemplating stealing from her cousin, not to mention violating her privacy, just so she could get the story she wanted. I honestly don't even know what Chloe has to do with this, other than it was her laptop that EDLois was thinking about raping for information. Because they are cousins Lois did not touch the cpu. I was only pointing out if the roles were reversed, the scene would have played out the same.

A wishful look, but nothing more. That is the journalist spark in the girls.

[msleggie]

I didn't see anything wrong with her going through Chloe's trash, Lois hasn't evolved into the Lois Lana we all know yet. She hasn't reached the stage of good reporting yet, it's nothing really wrong with her doing this on Smallville, but if it was in a movie or in a comic book, that would be a different story.

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by thehenry89
now she has to share her information with a competing jounalist. i'm sorry but that's ludicris. does chloe call lois whenever she gets new information for whatever story she's writting...i think not.

That's EXACTLY what Lois was begging Chloe to do!

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by Deana
Because they are cousins Lois did not touch the cpu. I was only pointing out if the roles were reversed, the scene would have played out the same.

A wishful look, but nothing more. That is the journalist spark in the girls.

Until I see a scene where Chloe eyes something of EDLois's like she wants to steal it, I'm not going to assume it's just journalistic instinct. To me, it looks like straight-up self-centeredness.

And I know she didn't really look. I saw the episode too. The point is, the contemplation was there. It was the directive team alluding to something about EDLois's character that insinuated she is tempted to do things, even to those she's close to, to get what she wants. That's my only point.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
That's EXACTLY what Lois was begging Chloe to do!

but did she do it? no.

i've already said it was stupid for her to beg chloe for a story, but she figured out her own leads on what she thought was a hot story.

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by thehenry89
again she didn't open the laptop, she didn't open chloe's mail. she threw away a coffee cup and found a peice of trash in (suprise suprise) the trash. if it was SO important and vital to chloe and clark's mission it would not have been in the wast basket. that would be like the CIA leaving classified mission statments in the public wast recepticle outside the new york times.

It was in the trash because coffee was spilled on it.
And it's likely that Chloe trusted her cousin not to invade her privacy, her being family and all.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
It was in the trash because coffee was spilled on it.
And it's likely that Chloe trusted her cousin not to invade her privacy, her being family and all.

invasion of privacy would be opening the laptop. the trash is public domain.

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by thehenry89
invasion of privacy would be opening the laptop. the trash is public domain.

It's public? I thought you said it was Lois's since it was in the apartment that Lois is renting. Hmmm.... maybe I will go into their trash and steal stuff... Sounds fun.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ

And I know she didn't really look. I saw the episode too. The point is, the contemplation was there. It was the directive team alluding to something about EDLois's character that insinuated she is tempted to do things, even to those she's close to, to get what she wants. That's my only point.

Hmmm....that's interesting. I thought that ILL is supposed to be tempted to get a scoop on a story because it's what she wants. If Lois wasn't tempted there, she wouldn't be a journalist.

[freefall]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Until I see a scene where Chloe eyes something of EDLois's like she wants to steal it, I'm not going to assume it's just journalistic instinct. To me, it looks like straight-up self-centeredness.

And I know she didn't really look. I saw the episode too. The point is, the contemplation was there. It was the directive team alluding to something about EDLois's character that insinuated she is tempted to do things, even to those she's close to, to get what she wants. That's my only point.

So what? Lois gets ripped apart for a wishful look and getting pictures from trash cans, but Chloe gets a free pass from the way she intentionally withheld Lois' proof in Arrow? We even have dialogue to confirm that. Double standards at its finest.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
It's public? I thought you said it was Lois's since it was in the apartment that Lois is renting. Hmmm.... maybe I will go into their trash and steal stuff... Sounds fun.

garbage is garbage, and it is in lois's apartment which gives her the right to look through it. just like when lana found that balled up peice of paper at the tourch it was garbage.

if lois had walked into chloe's house and dug through HER garbage with the purpose of finding a lead for a story that would be invasion of privacy. but stumbling across something in the garbage can or in lana's case outside the can is completly different.

[pleasenoclois]

Originally posted by seacrystal
So what? Lois gets ripped apart for a wishful look and getting pictures from trash cans, but Chloe gets a free pass from the way she intentionally withheld Lois' proof in Arrow? We even have dialogue to confirm that. Double standards at its finest.

I think usually Chloe gets an automatic pardon if she does anything to help Clark or protect Clark (not that I think that is necesarily always right) like she was doing to help Clark figure out who the GA was since he stole the necklace off of Martha's neck and Clark wanted to get it back.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
I think usually Chloe gets an automatic pardon if she does anything to help Clark or protect Clark (not that I think that is necesarily always right) like she was doing to help Clark figure out who the GA was since he stole the necklace off of Martha's neck and Clark wanted to get it back.

regardless, at the time she had no idea that ollie was the green arrow and she withheld information. lois found a picture in the trash.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by myankskent
Hmmm....that's interesting. I thought that ILL is supposed to be tempted to get a scoop on a story because it's what she wants. If Lois wasn't tempted there, she wouldn't be a journalist.

Sweetie... the thing is...

she needed this story cause she would have lost her job... I mean this whole article was being motivated because of money....

I mean that is a blow to Lois no?

So she was desperate...

Question is...

What would hav ehappened if she didn't notice the picture?

Go open the Laptop or HEAD to the DP and search it's database again or ask Chloe if she has any lose ends OR team up with her for a story...

Look I like Lois... and I don't think she ripped off Chloe (Yet there are evidence that can say otherwise but I am sticking with my belief)

Thing is... we don't know besides the fact she is writing about it...

I mean could she have shared the info with Chloe? Possible just spec I know

as for why she has to or want to share...

Cause she might feel morally wrong for some reason I dunno...

Just trying to give Lois a damn break

She appears after a what 3 episode absence just to get bashed on sad...

[pleasenoclois]

Chloe is the best and is always right and is everything good and wonderful.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
And with that I am off to bed.

[Deana]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Until I see a scene where Chloe eyes something of EDLois's like she wants to steal it, I'm not going to assume it's just journalistic instinct. To me, it looks like straight-up self-centeredness.

And I know she didn't really look. I saw the episode too. The point is, the contemplation was there. It was the directive team alluding to something about EDLois's character that insinuated she is tempted to do things, even to those she's close to, to get what she wants. That's my only point. What about the Green Arrow story? She tried to steal it, even if she was making nice and helping Lois with her research. All under the flag of journalism.

It was not done in hidden hatred or malice toward Lois, which the same can be said in this case.

IMO, The Chloe I've been introduced to would have looked the same way. ;)

[meteor]

Originally posted by Nospam


Whoa, whoa, whoa. You haven't been paying attention if you think that Chloe just sits on her very ample and lovely derriere at the Planet waiting for a story. Circumstances were such that Chloe did not need to investigate, but Lois did. We had five flipping seasons where Chloe went out for a story more times than I can remember. It's ridiculous to claim otherwise. Lois is coming into her own as a reporter though and that is obviously causing conflict between Lois and Chloe. [/B]

nice Nospam.

Chloe is already a great reporter..Lois is trying to get there. Lois was awesome in this episode though, and she does have something that Chloe doesnt have; that extra edge of fierceness and fearlessness to attack any situation that comes her way. I could have done without the extra skin shown in the fight outfit though...they shoulda just stuck with the red body suit. i admire Erica's body as much as the nice guy, but i don't think was necessary. they do that enough with her already.

Lois purposely turned away from Chloe's computer to not invade her stuff...but talking about something thrown in the trash in her own apartment like this was some grave invasion of Chloe's journalistic privacy? Come on.

[freefall]

Originally posted by thehenry89
regardless, at the time she had no idea that ollie was the green arrow and she withheld information. lois found a picture in the trash.

True that. "Automatic pardon" for Chloe is this case is not justified in any way at all, not even understandable. She definitely intended to keep the images to herself from the very beginning.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Sweetie... the thing is...

she needed this story cause she would have lost her job... I mean this whole article was being motivated because of money....

I mean that is a blow to Lois no?


Only if you can prove to me that Lois doesn't like investigating and writing articles and that she only does it to make money. I never got that impression in any of the episodes at the beginning of the season.




She appears after a what 3 episode absence just to get bashed on sad...

Well, she could've been in the last three episodes and it wouldn't have mattered, she was going to get bashed.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by myankskent
Hmmm....that's interesting. I thought that ILL is supposed to be tempted to get a scoop on a story because it's what she wants. If Lois wasn't tempted there, she wouldn't be a journalist.

Clearly, that's not even close to relating to the point I made. You're twisting my words.

Having inclinations to gank info from her cousin doesn't sound like a Lois Lane thing to do. Not on my end. And the real issue, as I've already said, is that EDLois was so desperate, she was begging. Begging her reporter cousin to throw her a bone so she could keep her job. That definitely doesn't sound like Lois Lane to me, or any other capable journalist for that matter.

The fact that she couldn't even muster up an article for a rag like The Inquisitor makes me suspect of her talents to begin with, but that's a subjective observation I suppose.



Originally posted by seacrystal
So what? Lois gets ripped apart for a wishful look and getting pictures from trash cans, but Chloe gets a free pass from the way she intentionally withheld Lois' proof in Arrow? We even have dialogue to confirm that. Double standards at its finest.

Chloe doesn't get a free pass, so there's no double standard. I don't even know why you're bringing that up, since it was never mentioned in this thread, but fine, I'll address it.

She did withhold the information. She withheld information she had to aid her competing story. Something a journalist would do. So it seems to me like the double standard being applied is that EDLois is a journalist for having the instinct to dig and steal, but Chloe is a backstabbing low-life and not a journalist because she kept HER OWN INFO for her own ends.

And really, the only way the two scenarios are really comparable is that in both cases, Chloe had info that EDLois just wanted handed to her. Odd. For a journalist, she doesn't seem to like doing work for herself.

[jazel]

Originally posted by pleasenoclois
Chloe is the best and is always right and is everything good and wonderful.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
And with that I am off to bed.
ohhhhhhh......wish I lived in la-la land...lol
sweet dreams ! ;)

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ




Chloe doesn't get a free pass, so there's no double standard. I don't even know why you're bringing that up, since it was never mentioned in this thread, but fine, I'll address it.

She did withhold the information. She withheld information she had to aid her competing story. Something a journalist would do. So it seems to me like the double standard being applied is that EDLois is a journalist for having the instinct to dig and steal, but Chloe is a backstabbing low-life and not a journalist because she kept HER OWN INFO for her own ends.
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excuse me, but when did chloe write any article about the green arrow. she withheld that information for her own reasons. reasons that had little to do with jounalism.