The greatest fight ever on this show!! /that's what I'm talking about (merged)

[Routh]

Kent & Lane VS. Ashley & Kane!

So what'd you think? Did rough-n-tumble Lois Lane hold her own against Athena? Or did Clark get his butt handed to him by Titan?

[HotStudsSuccess]

This kind of remind me of Celebrity Deathmatch Couples on MTV. But not really a together, they are on their own in a single Deathmatch :lol:

[Krpyto]

Finally. Clark whipping the super bad guys. He fought with rage too, but we will call it righteous indignation.

Woot!

[xrayvision]

Man, that fight was great. A lot of punches & kicks and a no nonsense Clark. It's about time.

[jimmyolsenblues]

LOVED IT.

[idunowinks]

very sick, i loved it too..thats what i like to see

[sprmansmyhero]

FINALLY!!! Clark is really kicking a$$! That is how the Zod fight should've been. Man, not only a great fight, but a very good episode too. The music and the whole feel is just awesome.

[Uffr]

Loved it.

[cmm]

I know!!! IT was the best!

[Ginx]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Man, that fight was great. A lot of punches & kicks and a no nonsense Clark. It's about time.


It was so awesome. The fatality punch was awesome too - 'bout time we saw some of the taking-care-of-business Clark.

[dcf]

I was practically jumping up and down and kicking and punching with him :rotfl: Way to go Clark!

[man of steel37013]

YES HE UPPER CUTTED THE HELL OUT OF TITAN. BUT TITAN GOT SOME GOOD HITS IN TO.

[Ginx]

Originally posted by sprmansmyhero
FINALLY!!! Clark is really kicking a$$! That is how the Zod fight should've been. Man, not only a great fight, but a very good episode too. The music and the whole feel is just awesome.

I agree. Everything about the episode just rocked and rocked hard!!!!

I hope next week is more of the same - maybe we'll get to see the JL again soon.

[svfan50]

Totallly loved ittt!!!!!!!!!!!! Clark being KAL-EL without the red-K!!!! TOTALLLYYY HOTTT!!!!!


Originally posted by Ginx
I agree. Everything about the episode just rocked and rocked hard!!!!

I hope next week is more of the same - maybe we'll get to see the JL again soon.

We are not getting another episode untill after a month!! NEXT WEEK?????????????? NO epsiode next week!!

[Superman's Princess]

That was a great fight! Go Clark!:p

[Dpyro]

wow is all i have to say this fight was awesome it actually lasted for more than two minutes

[Ginx]

Originally posted by svfan50
Totallly loved ittt!!!!!!!!!!!! Clark being KAL-EL without the red-K!!!! TOTALLLYYY HOTTT!!!!!

We are not getting another episode untill after a month!! NEXT WEEK?????????????? NO epsiode next week!!

I agree - totally hot and ass-kickin' I was cheering from my living room - I don't care if the neighbors think I'm insane.

And I know - I just found that out - no new episode next week - I hope the following week is good then - I mean this episode is good enough for me to ride it out for next week - sooooooo goooooddd.

And it's a good thing Clark wasn't on the Red K because with Lois dressed like that there might have been some other action going on in the ring as well.....lol

Now I'll just wait for someone to make a music vid of the episode - so many awesome songs to choose from...can't wait to see what comes out of it.

[Krypton935]

Yeah the fight was frickin sweet! I was jumpin up and down and being like holy krypton this is fricking awesome!! It was cool!

[bball44j]

This was the best Smallville fight so far. We really saw a darker side of Clark in this episode.

[Deana]

Clark's fight was awesome. I also liked how Lois kicked that girl's butt.

Very entertaining!

[Tomsgurl88]

I LOVED with clark gave that little smile when he started to finally kick some ass!!!!!:D

[cmm]

WHAT!?!?! NO new smallville for a month!?!?? UGH.

[MetroGirl06]

Clark can fight! DAYUM! and he kicked some arse up in there! Wasn't Titan a warrior? Clark must have really been pissed if he suddenly developed skills out of nowhere to kill that thing. This totally made up for the whimpy Clark we saw last week, we saw a different side to him. :D Hopefully they keep the fight scenes like this. :)

[SmallvillefanRyan]

I KNOW it's defently up there. Most smallville fighting scenes are no longer then a minute long. This one seemed longer and better to me. WHAT DID YOU THINK?

[jazzylg]

Finally. Clark won a fight, and fought well, without the help of chloe, or the mm!! Easily the best fight of the entire series!! I was jumping, clapping, and yelling as well! I was literally rooting for clark to get up and when he did...man I was proud. Welldone!!! That was a job for SUPERMAN!!!!!

[warriorrenegade]

Awesome fight. Thats what I've been waiting on for so long. Loved the first upper-cut thrown were Titan just unloaded on Clark. That whole effects sequence was great. The blood, slowmotion, the power ripples ...everything. Hell the whole fight was awesome. I only hope we get to see more of them in the future.

[nyczwillz]

yeah, these fight scenes probably will bring up ratings like crazy.

[Theshadow129x]

yes! finally a good fight scene with no one getting knocked by getting thrown 3 feet away!!! :)

[jazzylg]

All of superman returns! I hope you saw this ep B. Singer!!

[Dpyro]

wow this fight was amazing im very surprised at Cough for doing this and not his usual two minute fights i hope we get some more of these

[Ginx]

Originally posted by jazzylg
All of superman returns! I hope you saw this ep B. Singer!!

Hey now.....Superman Returns sequel is geared up for some massive fights - check out www.darkhorizons.com for some dirt.

But I have to agree.....SV fight scene 10 seconds held up strong against the 8 min plane scene in SR ... but I still like SR. I just love Superman (although Batman is my main man.....he's a badass).

[biggkoz]

I was waitng for clark to use his powers,looks like he forgot he had some.

[jazzylg]

If they're sqeaky clean and supes doesn't get his invulnerble butt dirty, then it'll still tank. Clark got dirty , bloody and downright viscious!

[cygnusx1]

finally an awesome fight scene. punches, kicks, and headbutts oh my

[SmallvillefanRyan]

ABSOLUTELY! Wonderful episode all around.

[Meteror Freak]

Clark's taking his rage out on the meteor freaks and on Kane was kinda cool. The fight scenes are definately better when he's angry.:)

[Dark Knight23]

I just wish the Zod fight was like this but I agree kick a$$ fight all the way. Great episode!

[ninthdegree]

I just wow, I'm praying that Almiles have some more of this up their sleeves, because that was freakin awesome. gaw! the blood and the headbutt and the wow! loved it!

[God-Man]

Best Smallville fight ever, no doubt. Clark looked like Superman in that battle.

[TWNurse]

I loved it.......finally Clark really taking care of business. LOVED it when Clark jumped up in air and came down with elbow to Titan.. I even said out loud OMG!!! I guess I didn't expect Clark to fight that well. I have a feeling he was channeling his anger in seeing Titan's bald head as Lex's :lol:

[Meteror Freak]

.............the best fight scene in Smallvillian history. Even outdoing the Clark/Zod fight. The Lois/Athena fight also rocked. Finally an actual fight scene. They should bring wwe on the show more often.

[BadToad]

Great, great fight scene. It made up for any shortcomings in the episode. I loved that Clark stood in there, took a beating, and then came on totally strong and kicked BUTT!! Thats my guy :D Good FX, and excellent work by Kane and TW.

There's something dangerously appealing about Clark's darker, more agressive side. Grrrrrr!

[Superman86]

Did Clark finally show that he is worthy of being Superman one day?

[Dark Knight23]

At the end of the fight is when I was really excited because Clark got quite a few punches is in.

[Deana]

It surpassed my expectations. Seriously, I thought Clark would get his butt kicked and someone would come in for the save.

[BadToad]

And how!! Now thats My Boy!

[cptep46]

This was the best fight on Smallville so far. I only wish CK would remember he has Superspeed, Heat Vision...

[msleggie]

When the fight first started, I was worried about Clark, but then when the tables turned and Clark started kickin some butt, I was more than satisfied! :)

[Uffr]

Awesome. Just wish it was longer.

[princesslaya]

......sorry wasnt impressed with the fight or the episode!!

[Thil_EL]

i i was to rate the fight, 1 being the lowest and bla bla

i give it a 7.5 , not the best fight but not badeither
i would've loved to see clark use his superspeed,heat vision and fligh/leap ability to win the fight

[jarethmc]

There was an ulgy brutality to Clarks fighting! There was nothing but nothing to admire!

[wraith808]

Fighting is an ugly brutish thing at times, especially if it's between two people who are very strong. And that's how superman fights when he really has to (Doomsday, Mongul, etc)

Superman didn't *learn* how to fight for a loooong time. Finally, Batman had to teach him how for some specific reason I forget currently. But before that time, he was a slugger...

[wraith808]

Only thing I didn't like was the fact that Clark totally ignored his other powers... it's like they aren't really a 'part' of him... definitely not something he uses instinctively. But oh yeah... the best fight on SV yet...

[FiveForFighting09]

Originally posted by wraith808
Only thing I didn't like was the fact that Clark totally ignored his other powers... it's like they aren't really a 'part' of him... definitely not something he uses instinctively. But oh yeah... the best fight on SV yet...

he wanted it to be fair..lol

That and i think it had to do with what he told his mom about wanting to kill Titan with his bare hands.

The fight was awesome...lets make Clark let more of the warriors out of the Phantom Zone so we can see some more of this kind of action....

[FiveForFighting09]

i think it was a good fight. at first i just thought that Chloe or someone else was going to come in and help but when Clark grabbed Titan's hand and said 'it's my turn' i got chills. Clark fought very well and i would consider him a pretty good fighter to go against a alien warrior guy and win...Good job Clark. just next time, don't leave the corpse lying around...throw it in the river if you must, that's what every body did in the old times any way...LOL

[dcf]

I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. And I liked that Clark didn't use his other powers... he wanted a good fight and a challenge. The victory was so much better using only his strength.

[ron75upc]

I think it is funny, some of you guys are like BDA can't fight needs mm or justice league to save him. Then we get a totally Clark centric fight and the "Now it is my turn" statement out of him and he kicks butt and it like ohh that is a mediocre fight, not impressed. Well I am sorry, but that was a great fight! I wish Zod fight had been like that, but I really like that move on Clarks part. Now we know he can take care of his self he don't need to be saved.

[FiveForFighting09]

Originally posted by ron75upc
I think it is funny, some of you guys are like BDA can't fight needs mm or justice league to save him. Then we get a totally Clark centric fight and the "Now it is my turn" statement out of him and he kicks butt and it like ohh that is a mediocre fight, not impressed. Well I am sorry, but that was a great fight! I wish Zod fight had been like that, but I really like that move on Clarks part. Now we know he can take care of his self he don't need to be saved.

DITTO!

[falcon64z8]

I was like "All-you-can" (from street fighter) at the end when he mad the final punch at Kane.

[dcf]

Well it seemed to live up to Titan's expectations.

"Good fight"

Drops dead

[Kii]

The fight was great. I was just hoping Clark would start super speeding around Titan, roughing him up. Still good, nonetheless.

[STFanatic]

I really really liked the fight scenes, the spike from the arm brought back memories of Doomsday who beat the snot outta Superman.

And most of all I was amazed that the fight lasted longer than five seconds!

[JaysonG]

Originally posted by falcon64z8
I was like "All-you-can" (from street fighter) at the end when he mad the final punch at Kane.

You mean Shoryuken.

[Jetta]

By far the best superpowered fight in the entire series. The writers did exactly what I was saying they should do for a long time. It was nice to see Clark get and give a beating.

Edit: Also, did anyone notice that this was the first fight against a Zoner that Clark won alone, without any MM, cyrstal, or cheap trick (like he did for Gloria) being used to win.

[Exodus2000]

nah...i wasnt impressed......i thought his fight with Brainiac was better.

[christian_kryptonian]

This was probably THEE best figt in Smallville history. The Zod battle certainly didn't pass this one. I was impressed. And top off the night with a win from the OSU Buckeyes! OH YEAH BABY!!!

[VNAF Ace]

That was easily the greatest fight in Smallville. Now that's how I want to see Superman fight!

[MidgardDragon]

It was a great fight, the best, but I certainly don't wish that they'd went for Clark upper-cutting Zod instead of the flying and crystal trapping, that wouldn't have been much fun. It's great to have a cool one-on-one fight for Clark once in a while (and he should've had one with Batista) but it certainly shouldn't be that way every single time. The fight took up a pretty good portion of the climax, and was all about the violence. That's just not how Smallville is, and while I *loved* the fight this week, I'm certainly disagreeing with those that wish Clark did that all the time.

[Jetta]

Fight was great, but Titan's method of death was pathetic. Loved seeing Clark give and take the pain. Also, I think he ignored his other powers because he wanted to go physical only because of his Lana-heartbreak (ah well, can't have a perfect episode now can we?)

[VNAF Ace]

Of course, I don't want to see this type of fight in every episode, but I at least like to see Clark actually punch some bad guys once in a while.

[Welling21]

man that was a kick a** Fight! i LOVED it! It was way better than i thought it was gonna be. I loved it when Clark went "My turn" and started kicking serious butt. Not to mention i love him in black :D I give this ep a 10 for that fight scene alone lol.

[BABarracus]

Originally posted by Ginx
I agree - totally hot and ass-kickin' I was cheering from my living room - I don't care if the neighbors think I'm insane.

And I know - I just found that out - no new episode next week - I hope the following week is good then - I mean this episode is good enough for me to ride it out for next week - sooooooo goooooddd.

And it's a good thing Clark wasn't on the Red K because with Lois dressed like that there might have been some other action going on in the ring as well.....lol

Now I'll just wait for someone to make a music vid of the episode - so many awesome songs to choose from...can't wait to see what comes out of it.

if he was on red k he never would have gotten hit clark with rage isnto the same as clark on red k

[faz]

Originally posted by ron75upc
I think it is funny, some of you guys are like BDA can't fight needs mm or justice league to save him. Then we get a totally Clark centric fight and the "Now it is my turn" statement out of him and he kicks butt and it like ohh that is a mediocre fight, not impressed. Well I am sorry, but that was a great fight! I wish Zod fight had been like that, but I really like that move on Clarks part. Now we know he can take care of his self he don't need to be saved.

Amen. Personally I thought it was a great fight. People keep complaining that they never see Clark throw a punch when he has powers, and now we got it. I thought it was a great fight scene, and who cares if he didn't use heat vision or superspeed. It makes the fact that he defeated Titan a lot better.

[kszonew]

None of the Phantom Zone prisoner fights have been all that much, but this one was very good and lasted awhile. Clark had a challenge, and he rose to it. The anger, rage, regret after the fight. It was all well done.

[planetd]

Well although I really like Clark's fight, I thought it could be much more improved. For example, in the last episode I believe of JLA, Superam faces off with Darkseid, and after Darkseid beats Batman, Superman gives a huge punch...then says :
"Batman won't quit as long as he still has breath. None of my team will. But me, I've got a different problem. (punches darkseid through a wall) I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard, always taking constant care not to break something..not to break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control...even for a moment...cause someone could die (another huge punch), but you can take it can't cha big man? What we have here is a rare opportunity for me to cut loose. And show you, just how powerful I really am...." Superman proceeds to own darkseid.
Now although I like Clark's "now it's my turn" I would have liked to see some more words talking about how he can own this dude, and then he uses his arsenal of abilities to demolish the guy, b/c you better believe if i had appeared to be getting beaten, and was holding back, I would say much more than "my turn." My two cents, but all in all, I still thought it was a lot better than what I was expecting.

[Atomic girl]

I liked the fight scene. And Kane's comments about TW wanting to do all the fighting he could was nice too.

This fight seemed more gritty than other fights and fitting to the situation at hand. Go Clark go!

[clois_lover10]

The fight scene and the dialogue that went along with it were amazing.

[SteveS]

Since I don't read comics, I am not a devotee of the idea that Superman can not or will not kill a bad guy now and then, so I was very much enjoying him kick Titan's butt and wished for just a bit more violence for the latter as he met his end. As someone else said, he would have felt the full force of Superman in meeting his death, which was a good thing for every living person around him.

It was good.

[RedKalEL]

the fight was awsome it was almsot like watching him being in war world and titan was like mongul

[pissedoff]

this was by far the best fight scene ever. Clark kicked ass.

[Peat Moss]

Yes yes yes! finally!

[sithius]

Yep, it was awesome seeing Clark kick ass but it still bugs me that an earlier punch on Titan's back did nothing to him, at all. He didn't even move from it. Maybe he was just restricting his powers a lot.

[STFanatic]

The "leap in the air and punch down" effect was the best (IMO).

I just hope future episodes keep some action in them.
I don't watch of all the teen (although none of them are teens anymore) angst and "ships", I watch for action.

BTW, my current avatar is the real thing...:lol:
Anyone know who TW is smooching on?

[warriorrenegade]

yeah his wife

[STFanatic]

Yup, I was surprised by how many folks asked me who that is.

:lol:

[Ginx]

Originally posted by STFanatic
Yup, I was surprised by how many folks asked me who that is.

:lol:

they might be in denial that he's married. LOL - Lucky lady. ;)

I hope Clark doesn't retreat to softer methods in the coming episodes - I really want him to take this experience and learn from it (although Clark does seem to have a learning problem in that he can't remember lessons learned from previous episodes).

[jr23344]

I really liked the fact that Clark didn't use his other powers like other people were saying in here, Just raw power. I think everyone in here can relate to the clark in this episode. You try to be a nice guy for so long before you can't take it anymore...especially when no one seems like their grateful. You just feel like punching something.

Also, I really liked the different vibe in this episode. I can't really explain it, but everything about the way they did the episode was different. Music was different, I think I liked how they rode out cool scenes longer and cut the drama scenes down to where it needed to be. I hate when they drag out drama scenes that although neccessary shouldn't be as long.

[RedBullet]

It was fucl<in awesome....nuff said

[legolazzz04]

I liked the fight scene. I kinda went a little slo mo and reminded me of the Matrix movie.

Clark whooped butt and finished Kane off. Finally there was some action mixed in with all this drama.

[Oncebittentwice]

The "leap in the air and punch down" effect was the best (IMO).

The setup of the fight was MMA style (UFC etc.). What's hilarious about your comment and what had me LMAO when he threw it, is that it's an MMA move called... wait for it...



"The Superman Punch"

Someone in the writing teams been waiting to pull that out for quite a while I'm guessing

[STFanatic]

The last time I saw a wrestling match was back in 1967 or '68.

Terry Funk VS Haystacks Calhoun.

They used that move back then too, odd though how the boots always hit the mat before the punch connected :D

I always cheered for the "Bad Guy" cause it PO'ed the little old ladies. :p

[jazzylg]

I just realized something. Titan is the 1st supervillian, besides zod and the other 2 kryptonians from arrival, that clark could totally cut loose on, with all his strenght, without instantly killing them.

[Loislvesclark]

It really was a great fight scene. I loved when Clark finally started giving it back. It showed how powerful he really is against a true opponent when it comes to pure physical ability. Not only that, Titan was trained as a warrior.

I remember thinking during the episode that Clark isn't really a fighter. The only reason he fights is because he is physically gifted in that way, yet he was still able to defeat someone with intense powers and strength who was trained to fight. I thought it hinted at a new side of Clark.

[wraith808]

Originally posted by jazzylg
I just realized something. Titan is the 1st supervillian, besides zod and the other 2 kryptonians from arrival, that clark could totally cut loose on, with all his strenght, without instantly killing them.

I'm pretty sure that Baern could have taken it, also...

[SuperKyptonGirl13]

Man that was so majorly awsome fighting they finaly have Clark go full blow super and kick some bad phantom butt!!!!

[Son of Kal-El20]

That was a great fight. No...an EXCELLENT FIGHT! I never knew that Superman could actually fight. I was actually used to watching Supe either do nothing and get beat up or cry like a girl.

[freefall]

From a purely SFX and choreography perspective, the Combat smackdown ranks up there with the Phoenix (Clark vs. Jonathan) fight.

[kal-el03]

LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skully]

While it was an extra-cool fight scene (yeah, I'm like everyone else that has grown tired of Clark "shoving" people in the chest rather than punching their lights out), I still can't go past the Lana v Chloe fight in Delete as the best fight scene in Smallville history!!!

[Peat Moss]

It seems weird that they got ANOTHER wrestler for a phantom though. And it got me to thinking--why are wrestler cameos such bad acting? It IS what they do for a living, after all. (zing)

[wraith808]

And so convincingly too... not!

[Rift]

What's so special about the writers blatantly ripping off a finishing blow from Street Fighter II?

I fully expected Clark to yell out "SHORYUKEN!!!!" as he did that uppercut, followed by a victory fly-around shot as he pumped his fist.

[wraith808]

Can we please stop shouting rip-off at everything seen that vaguely resembles something else? It's boring, and it's inaccurate. The scene was good IMO because the choreography was nice. I've seen better fights, but not on SV.

[Peat Moss]

Fights will resemble each other. There's only so many ways to beat down on someone else.

[Another-One]

I laughed when this fight turned out to be so good.

I mean this episode pretty much sucked, yet, arguably the best fight took place in it.

I mean, almost all of Clark's battles dont even last a minute and they really never get down and dirty. Hell Clark's battle with "Zod" wasnt even all that good.

[magoo]

While i was watching the fight i couldn't help wonder why Clark didn't use his other abilities to his advantage? The only reason i suppose must be budgetary.

He could have set him on fire and burnt him to a cinder, blown him out again and into solid ice, or simply blow him so hard that he would have burst out of the roof and into space. Titan didn't display any signs of superspeed so i'm sure clark could have delivered thousands of punches at superspeed before the guy could even blink!

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Goes to show that, when a fight as crappy as this one is viewed so highly, how bad the fight scenes in this series have been.

[Mr. Wrong]

This was an excellent epi and an excellent fight. Not just because of the special effects, even though IMO they were the best that this series has used in a fight todate, rather it was CK's whole attitude. He showed no fear, no trepidation what so ever. He was very deliberate from the opening bell. In short, he behaved like the Man of Steel who was performing a task that no one else was capable of accomplishing!

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
This was an excellent epi and an excellent fight. Not just because of the special effects, even though IMO they were the best that this series has used in a fight todate, rather it was CK's whole attitude. He showed no fear, no trepidation what so ever. He was very deliberate from the opening bell. In short, he behaved like the Man of Steel who was performing a task that no one else was capable of accomplishing!

Here is my issue with what you wrote:
The fight scene, though good in terms of Smallville, paled to anything in the cartoons, what does that say about Smallville?
Clark was doing what he was doing out of frustration and anger, not very Supermanly is it?

[SSJ Trapstar]

I just watched the episode and thought this fight was amazing! Best yet!

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
Here is my issue with what you wrote:
The fight scene, though good in terms of Smallville, paled to anything in the cartoons, what does that say about Smallville?
Clark was doing what he was doing out of frustration and anger, not very Supermanly is it?

Right. But cartoons are easier and cheaper to produce with awe-inspiring fight scenes. Cartoons and comic books are limited only by imagination. Smallville will never be able to compete with that. Seriously, it's just not realistic to think that it could.

[wraith808]

^Well-stated, and agreed.

[Sweetie]

This is the Clark Kent that I want to see for a long time :D

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by ClarksGal
Right. But cartoons are easier and cheaper to produce with awe-inspiring fight scenes. Cartoons and comic books are limited only by imagination. Smallville will never be able to compete with that. Seriously, it's just not realistic to think that it could.

I guess we should just lower our expectations and accept mediocrity?
Even the simple choreography was sub-par compared to other TV shows, screw the FX part, at least get that right !

[wraith808]

IMO the choreography was right in line with the subject matter. To have CK fighting as if he was trained would have been a bigger mistake than to keep it simple like they did- Superman is a brawler, and if you're having a slugfest between brawlers, there's only so much choreography you can do...

[RedBullet]

It was awesome fight but I liked CK vs. JK better

[Mr. Wrong]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
Here is my issue with what you wrote:
The fight scene, though good in terms of Smallville, paled to anything in the cartoons, what does that say about Smallville?
Clark was doing what he was doing out of frustration and anger, not very Supermanly is it?


Well, I've never watched any Smallville cartoons but this fight was between actual people so you can't really compare IMHO.
Clark's agenda has always been to deal with the zoners that he unintentionally freed. Luckily for him Lexana had his dander up enough to give him the impetus to be able to deal decisively with Titan.

[STFanatic]

Hmmm...
I wonder if the whole "Lexana" thing was created just for this episode just to tick Clark off enough for him to fight like that?

Interesting.....

[jazzylg]

This fight also proves how much ck has got to learn about his abilities. Usually when he fights someone, they sometimes die. This current fight fatality, like others: bug boy(s1), freeze/cold kid(s1) shape shifter meteor freak/lana lover, etc., have had a profund effect om clark's sense of responsibility, and compassion for living beings, despite whether they are 'good guys' or 'supervillians'.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by wraith808
IMO the choreography was right in line with the subject matter. To have CK fighting as if he was trained would have been a bigger mistake than to keep it simple like they did- Superman is a brawler, and if you're having a slugfest between brawlers, there's only so much choreography you can do...

Allow me to forget my almost 30 years of MA training, that makes me rather bias.
Allow to to call upon way too many years as a bouncer in downtown Toronto.
I have seen too many brawls, and while Kane's fighting was spot on at times, the crappy uppercuts aside, Clark's was, at best, ok, but that final punch just sucked worse than a bucktoothed crackhead.
Seriously.

Perhaps I am just over sensitive considering how many excellent fight choregraphers there are in Vancouver that coudl have made that fight WAY better and STILL made it look like a brawl.

I expected more from this episode.

Perhaps that was my mistake.

[wraith808]

Pretty much it was. You're not the only one with MA training and fight experience. But some try to recognize the limits of the budget and time and actors. If someone doesn't have that experience, it takes a lot of work to get them to the point where they can do such things without making it look cheesey. I mean look at Daredevil for an example. They had choreographers and money... but the actors just plain couldn't pull it off. I'd rather them set the bar low and pull it off rather than see people that can't fight- TW in particular- look worse because they're pretending to.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by wraith808
Pretty much it was. You're not the only one with MA training and fight experience. But some try to recognize the limits of the budget and time and actors. If someone doesn't have that experience, it takes a lot of work to get them to the point where they can do such things without making it look cheesey. I mean look at Daredevil for an example. They had choreographers and money... but the actors just plain couldn't pull it off. I'd rather them set the bar low and pull it off rather than see people that can't fight- TW in particular- look worse because they're pretending to.

When you look at it that way, I see your point, but I am sure you agree, they could have done better and that, to praise this display as "great" shows how bad recent fights have truly been.
Plus I am getting a tad tired about the "budget", it seems to be the excuse for everything that ends up being sub-apr or for Ton not using more super powers, even though it doesn't seem to effect everyone else using their super powers...

[Mr. Wrong]

Coincidently I have a few year of MA training as well in pretty much every discipline that I can think of. Combat was giving us a two minute battle to the death. This was not supposed to be a WWE bout even if Kane was playing Titan. CK has never taken a fighting lesson that I know of and obviously doesn't know to even make a proper fist. However, the technical aspects aside, CK's deliberate, decisive mindset was the critical factor is this match. I to would have like the fight to be more intense and longer but TPTB are trying to mollify as many fans as possible and I think they did an excellent job.

[wraith808]

^Agreed, wholeheartedly. The shows that have given us a really good fight scene within the space of an hour show can be counted on two hands with fingers left over. I can think of Angel, Buffy, Highlander... and.... I guess some of the martial arts shows (Walker, Martial Law, Vanishing Son...)... but other than that, I have a hard time coming up with any...

But those were pretty much centred around combat, while SV, as much as I hate to say it, is a soap opera. More of one than I'd like, but I watch it for what it is, keeping the limitations in mind.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
Coincidently I have a few year of MA training as well in pretty much every discipline that I can think of. Combat was giving us a two minute battle to the death. This was not supposed to be a WWE bout even if Kane was playing Titan. CK has never taken a fighting lesson that I know of and obviously doesn't know to even make a proper fist. However, the technical aspects aside, CK's deliberate, decisive mindset was the critical factor is this match. I to would have like the fight to be more intense and longer but TPTB are trying to mollify as many fans as possible and I think they did an excellent job.

2 minutes?
That long?
I have seen drunken whinos do better in a back alley.
I know that inconsistency is the name of the game in Smallville, but are we saying that, truly, this is the best we could have hoped for from an Episode entitled "combat" ?

I mean, how low do we have to set our sights here?

[A MAN OF REASON!]

It's about time we see Clark get down to business! No cornball dialog, no hesitation on his behalf. Just straight up I'm gonna kick your azz! Clark is definitely starting to realize his destiny!

[wraith808]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
2 minutes?
That long?
I have seen drunken whinos do better in a back alley.
I know that inconsistency is the name of the game in Smallville, but are we saying that, truly, this is the best we could have hoped for from an Episode entitled "combat" ?

I mean, how low do we have to set our sights here?

I suppose we have to agree to disagree on this point then. SV is not a show centred around powers or combat, but supposedly character development (at times I have my doubts...)

But nonetheless, its a soap, as I've already said, and so combat will be by that very nature neither long nor well choreographed. But IMO they did pretty good for the limitations they have, especially since they aren't going to change that focus this far into the series.

[jimmyolsenblues]

i thought it was a good episode. if I would expect more , I would be disappointed more.
I should be happy with what the writers give me.

[STFanatic]

Sure I would have liked more, but for Smallville, it was amazing.
In the past the most we could expect was a slap in the chest that knocked someone into the wall, or someone getting tossed through the air onto a car hood.
Having Clark actually connect with his knuckles was a major event.

[Peat Moss]

It hasn't always been a soap--it had good character devolpment without becoming a soap at the beginning.
But this episode actually reminded me a lot of a S2-3 one. Because we got to see Clark in the loft reviewing what he learned about being a superhero on this episode.
That's, IMO, what Smallville is all about.

[Mr. Wrong]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
2 minutes?
That long?
I have seen drunken whinos do better in a back alley.
I know that inconsistency is the name of the game in Smallville, but are we saying that, truly, this is the best we could have hoped for from an Episode entitled "combat" ?

I mean, how low do we have to set our sights here?

I'm sure if the show was about drunken winos fighting in a back alley, we would have seen a longer, better choreographed bout.
However, I doubt if it would have filled up the hour in an entertaining manner. So I fail to see your point. As fight scenes go on T.V. this wasn't the best, but it was far from the worst IMHO. Try not to forget that this wasn't the only physical confrontation in this episode. Still I can appreciate your critique of the match but IMO you are going a bit overboard in your analysis.

[KRIMSON]

Great episode, nice to see Clark finally give somebody a kickin' Superman style.

[Mello Penelo]

I thought it was great. But here's the question. Regardless of Clark being super strong, who taught him how to fight? And when did it happen?

[STFanatic]

Maybe he watches that wrestling show on CW.

;)

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
I'm sure if the show was about drunken winos fighting in a back alley, we would have seen a longer, better choreographed bout.
However, I doubt if it would have filled up the hour in an entertaining manner. So I fail to see your point. As fight scenes go on T.V. this wasn't the best, but it was far from the worst IMHO. Try not to forget that this wasn't the only physical confrontation in this episode. Still I can appreciate your critique of the match but IMO you are going a bit overboard in your analysis.

You may be right, I tend to dislike amateurish displays of fisticuffs :D
I think I may have set myself up for disappointment because of the title of the episode.


Originally posted by STFanatic
Maybe he watches that wrestling show on CW.

;)

LOL, maybe.

[Edge]

The fight-scenes in this episode was much, much better coreographed than any of the others.

Plus, Clark had that awesome killer-look in his eyes. Kick-ass!=D

[Mr. Wrong]

CK's fighting technique is definitely self taught. Nobody would ever lay a hand on him if he had been given any training what so ever. How could anyone as slow as Titan ever hit someone who is faster than a speeding bullet?

[vikihill96]

CK is the best. Soon he will be ready to be "Man of steel"-It is no accident that this is his name, when he came for the fight against Lois.And what can i say for the combat between Kane and Clark-great fight.

[wilder]

It wasn't be luck that he win. First i thought he screw up and someone had to clean for him (Martian Manhunter). But when he said " My turn" i knew this time would be different. I've got thrills when he said that:D

[kryptonut]

missed that episode, can someone give me a brief summary please?

[kryptonut]

Is anyone alive??

[Bane]

Man, this episode was downright awesome. The fight was spectacular, and Clark showed that when necessary, he can throw down. I want to see something even better when it's time for him to fight Doomsday.

[JosephKenny18]

I loved this episode, the fight scene was awesome but it shows that in the heat of the moment that clark will do anything to save lives. I loved when Clark turns around and says "My turn". Awesome episode.

[Stebob1984]

The fight between Clark and Titan is probably the only fight on smallville that didn't seem too short. It delivered an awesome fight, I want more. I don't get why Doomsday vs Clark couldn't have been more like this.

[Nimkong]

This fight was raw as crap compared to the doomsday fight

[Supermania]

The fight was surprisingly decent I thought when I first saw it. I was a little disappointed that the Superman-to-be was using his superpowers in anger and especially that it was anger over Lana's wedding with Lex. Still, quite a spectacle and, even as of Season Nine, there is no fight on Smallville to top it.

[skully]

Watched this episode again last night. Simply an awesome epi.

[Aficionado]

Watched it again last night. The fight was brutal and exhilarating, probably the best fight in Smallville's history with the one in Salvation being a close second. Loved the determined look on Clark's face when he said "my turn". Furthermore it's hard to resist Clark Kent in leather pants. That was a thrill in itself.:rotfl:

[BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow]

The best fight scene in Smallville. Clark deserved it and it was a blast from beginning to end. It's so awesome in so different levels. I also liked the little fight with Lois and Ashley!

I don't think S10 can beat in punches or brutality but I hope we get some sort of a fight that equals in epicness to what we saw in "Combat"!!