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Runestone
03-22-2007, 06:38 PM
What do you think of the way Clark's been acting since the Lexana wedding? Do you like this new "I'm not human", seemingly emotionless side, or do you prefer the way he was before?
svfan50
03-22-2007, 06:41 PM
I love it!!! He is hotttt!!!!!! Without the red-K!!!!! What else can anybody ask for!!!!
I'm glad he's done moping over Lana.
I like that he's finally taking the "let's make some difference and bring justice" thing seriously ... but he's almost ... err ... too serious? I'd like a mix of the farmboy Clark and the serious man of steel Clark!
Lostfan588
03-22-2007, 06:42 PM
Well this side is making him get alot more proactive and as for the not- human part- he'll get over it, but the having to let go of Lana part....i like it. Haha I dont care if martha says hes acting like a diff person cuz this diff person is a helluva lot less crybabyish and more like superman!
TheRowdy
03-22-2007, 06:51 PM
I'm definately liking this change in Clark, hopefully it lasts and isn't just pent up bitterness from the Lexana wedding and nothing else. It's time for Clark to MOVE ON!
freefall
03-22-2007, 06:51 PM
He's starting to come to terms with his Kal-El side maybe.
Granted - Superman shouldn't kill etc - but at the same time I was really tired of watching Clark mope around.
And he is only protecting the innocents anyway - so it's sorta justified..........
Krypton935
03-22-2007, 07:05 PM
I like it. It was awesome. He's protecting innocent people so he totally gets off the hook. He is so totally cool.
Markd329
03-22-2007, 07:05 PM
Was it his anger over Lana marrying Lex?
There were parts of the story when he just looked like he was CRAZY [and that's without the crazy forms of kryptonite!], DEFIANT [when he snapped at Martha], and TOTALLY PISSED OFF, and when he turned around and said to Kane, "My Turn", the BLOODTHIRSTY look in his eyes gave me shivers!
This episode showed me the SUPER side of him and I hope more of that shows up in the future.
WOW!!!!!!!!!
Krpyto
03-22-2007, 07:08 PM
Nothing will drive a man to rage and want to kick someones ass quicker than being pissed off or ****** over by his girlfriend.
monet
03-22-2007, 07:18 PM
I like the new Clark but I see no reason why he can't have it all. Fighting crime in the night and having a wonderful relationship with Lana in the day. The whole concept of him having one and not the other is totally ludicrous. The show just makes me sick sometime.
However the kick *** part was great. I loved the whole episode. One of the best this season.
D.M.A.
03-22-2007, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by niki
I'm glad he's done moping over Lana.
I like that he's finally taking the "let's make some difference and bring justice" thing seriously ... but he's almost ... err ... too serious? I'd like a mix of the farmboy Clark and the serious man of steel Clark!
I agree,I like this new version of clark but he was alil out of control.He needs to balance out this new attitude towards bein proactive and bein his old farmboy self.But definitely luv that he isn't mopin and takin action,tho harsh it was still better then lookin pathetic last week
kkjdt
03-22-2007, 07:19 PM
what do you mean at least he is no tmopping over lana that is all he did... angry mopping!
Ville317
03-22-2007, 07:20 PM
It was good to bring out Clark's determination, super strength, and the fact that he can hold his own and svae the day himself. However, the brutality was not supermanesque. At least, Clark showed some sympathy and intelligence in knowing someone made up Lana's mind and forced her to marry Lex. GO Smart and Powerful Clark.
Runestone
03-22-2007, 07:20 PM
At the end he kind of got mopey about Lana again; I hope that was just a residual feeling that we'll see disappear. I was glad to see him show remorse for the zoner after his rather emotionless performance though, but of course I still loved his new side.
Ville317
03-22-2007, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Ginx
Granted - Superman shouldn't kill etc - but at the same time I was really tired of watching Clark mope around.
And he is only protecting the innocents anyway - so it's sorta justified..........
He didn't kill Titan. He punched the crap out of him and Titan fell on his own "sword-hand." So Superman still hasn't killed anyone. Which is very good.
Ilovebeinglost
03-22-2007, 07:23 PM
I like it but I'm not 100% sure the writers yes I said the writers are done with his moping.
Hey Lex's ex wife Helen is on supernatural right now hehehehe:p
MetroGirl06
03-22-2007, 07:23 PM
Like it? I LOVED it! God, he was soooooooo hot being all kick-ass with the leather jacket and the anger and the actual throwing of punches! He was just dripping testoserone in this episode! GAH! Its too much for a girl to handle!
Runestone
03-22-2007, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by MetroGirl06
Like it? I LOVED it! God, he was soooooooo hot being all kick-ass with the leather jacket and the anger and the actual throwing of punches! He was just dripping testoserone in this episode! GAH! Its too much for a girl to handle!
I hear you!
Radioflyer
03-22-2007, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Ville317
He didn't kill Titan. He punched the crap out of him and Titan fell on his own "sword-hand." So Superman still hasn't killed anyone. Which is very good. True, but lethal force is all too often necessary.
Smallvilledabest
03-22-2007, 07:34 PM
I love it!
BABarracus
03-22-2007, 07:44 PM
this is the first episode where he actually gets to beat the crap out of some one . when he fought zod he got the craps beat out of him and he lost less blood, when he fought batista be got the crap beat out of him again, when he fought brainiac he got the craps almost beat out of him then he get beat up by people infected by meteors every week.
this seems more like superman and not just taking damage
ninthdegree
03-22-2007, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by MetroGirl06
Like it? I LOVED it! God, he was soooooooo hot being all kick-ass with the leather jacket and the anger and the actual throwing of punches! He was just dripping testoserone in this episode! GAH! Its too much for a girl to handle!
I know! He was so Hot in this episode! I loved it! I loved the attitude too, talk about shivers. That was soooooo a smart a** Superman. I know they can't keep the smart a** part, but at least they could keep the Superman part.( the part that isn't a complete mopeified wuss)
Xavieryz
03-22-2007, 08:24 PM
I hope this is a sign of moving forward, His how quest to become superman has been at a hault all season. I hope TPTB don't revert back to the whining clark that we have seen all season.
This was a great episode and best fight seen ever on smallville, I am glad he has finally started Throwing punches instead of just throwing people through stacks of hay.
Ireallylikethisshow
03-22-2007, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Runestone
What do you think of the way Clark's been acting since the Lexana wedding? Do you like this new "I'm not human", seemingly emotionless side, or do you prefer the way he was before?
If he would skip the 'I'm not human' and then keep the good-doings, lack of interest in Lexana, and continue being a bit less whiny... I'D ADORE IT!
But don't forget the 'I'm human', 'cause then the good-doings disapear and he becomes an evil dicator.
FIND THE BALANCE CLARK!
freddielm
03-22-2007, 08:26 PM
Finally, Clark grew a pair.
ninthdegree
03-22-2007, 08:29 PM
A steel pair :D
TWNurse
03-22-2007, 08:31 PM
HOT TAMALE!!!!! I think Clark was picturing Lex's bald head on Titan's body which allowed him to focusing his anger and beat the heck out of Titan even if he did take a beating before that.
wallyK
03-22-2007, 08:38 PM
This episode was about Clark being angry in reaction to Lana's wedding to Lex. Very similar to Vengeance in that regard. I don't think it is really a new side to Clark. It is however, a side of Clark we don't see very often. His anger made him determined, which was somewhat supermanly. Of course, Superman is fairly idealistic and only uses the minimum force necessary to subdue the bad guys.
They did raise the problem of just how Clark is supposed to deal with phantom zoners. He said he doesn't know how to return them, and he cannot just let them walk around killing people, so what can he do? Would it make sense to turn Titan over to the authorities? Of course, Titan conveniently died when he fell on his spike. So, Titan died without Clark taking his life directly. If Clark, really wanted to kill Titan, he could have used his heat vision. Or, he could at least blind him.
AndiGirl
03-22-2007, 08:39 PM
finally, about time Clark gets a pair!!!! haha. :)
It's nice to see him not moping around.
BadToad
03-22-2007, 08:43 PM
I thought it was really something interesting character evolution for him. To see his channelling his attentions in the right direction...but not necessarily in the right way...was a good move for the show. This is definitely something he's going to have to learn, and I like when the show takes us through the paces. Clark is not a robot, he's going to feel anger. So, to see how he deals with this anger is worthwhile. And ultimately, we can see that his soul is in tact. That even with the anger, which he recognizes, he still cares about life. Even of an evil 'zoner.
Actually, if he channels his heartache into action as opposed to mopiness, I think that will be fun to watch, and a real step for Clark.
Odysseus
03-22-2007, 08:55 PM
I definitely like the new attitude. He's being proactive instead of moping around the loft. He's been checking in with Ollie for leads on different cases. And, as we saw at the beginning of the epi, he's busted several MAJOR crime figures in the past week .
That is a definite improvement over moping in the barn if you ask me.
wallyK
03-22-2007, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Odysseus
I definitely like the new attitude. He's being proactive instead of moping around the loft. He's been checking in with Ollie for leads on different cases. And, as we saw at the beginning of the epi, he's busted several MAJOR crime figures in the past week .
That is a definite improvement over moping in the barn if you ask me.
They made it seem like a bad thing by having him apparently use excessive force. So, I think this little story line is going to be dropped like a hot potato. If he really continues working with Ollie, without the excessive force, he really comes close to fulfilling his superman role. For Clark, working for Ollie is really a commitment to help the world. That is a major change in attitude for Clark. Once he gets that, it's only a hop, skip, and a jump to becoming a public figure by putting on a suit. So, this story will ave to get reversed to keep Clark from becoming Superman so quickly.
Honey45
03-22-2007, 09:06 PM
I thought his whole "I'm not human!" bit was a little immature.
I could see him stomping off to his room and slamming the door afterwards.
Yeah, he's NOT human, but he has to realize he has human emotions. Anger is one of them.
I just liked that he was being a little brat and said "Well, I'm NOT human ........ mom".
That was cute, because "mom" is one of the most human things to say.
princesslaya
03-22-2007, 09:08 PM
......I am liking this new, angry Clark...makes him even more hotter!!!!
meteor_phreak
03-22-2007, 09:11 PM
i like that he's trying to face things. in his own way, of course, but at least he didn't start throwing a tennis ball in his loft...
love_smallville
03-22-2007, 10:12 PM
loved Clark-determined and in black-great combo ;)
cloisinmyheart
03-22-2007, 10:37 PM
i like this. sticking up for himself and not letting his love for lana blind him from his destiny
redeem147
03-22-2007, 10:50 PM
Tom's always more interesting when he's playing Clark's dark side, so I enjoyed it.
Besides - black leather.
paolinki25
03-22-2007, 10:58 PM
I was very, very proud of Clark at the beginning of the episode. (annoyed by the little Lana bit in the end, though) Please, TPTB, let this be the first signs of Clark Kent growing up and letting go of his past, please, I beg of you.
freefall
03-23-2007, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by BadToad
I thought it was really something interesting character evolution for him. To see his channelling his attentions in the right direction...but not necessarily in the right way...was a good move for the show. This is definitely something he's going to have to learn, and I like when the show takes us through the paces. Clark is not a robot, he's going to feel anger. So, to see how he deals with this anger is worthwhile. And ultimately, we can see that his soul is in tact. That even with the anger, which he recognizes, he still cares about life. Even of an evil 'zoner.
Actually, if he channels his heartache into action as opposed to mopiness, I think that will be fun to watch, and a real step for Clark.
I completely agree. Even with the whole Promise crap, I thought it's great that the writers simply doesn't dismiss what has happened last week. Clark is definitely angry and he's channeling all those anger by using excessive force on the bad guys and even as far as intending to kill. It's like the way the he dealt with his grief and guilt over Jonathan's death.
But finally he came clean with himself and his mother that he's not doing all that voluntarily, and he felt remorse and regret at the end about Titan. That's a great character growth and I hope the writers will not butcher that anymore. They should show him taking his mother's advice and learning to let go and as well as dealing with his emotions. IMO Clark bottles up things too much and still can't get out of the notion that he's all alone in this world, when that has never ever been the case at all. He has always been surrounded by love and friendship from people who deeply cares for him.
Clark is the man in Combat. He holds his own and am definitely proud of him.
Supersingh007
03-23-2007, 06:13 AM
yeah clarks need to stop moping and kick some phantom zoner's asses. Everyone saw all those craters..theres many more freeks about and clark should kill them as they are killing other people and no one else can stop them. clarks already killed before in smallville...he never kills humans so its cool lol
i think clark will ]stop moping about lana as in "oh i wanna get back with her etc etc" BUT he will get to the bottom of why she married lex and then go and give lionel a nice warming visit (more like a blast of heat vision lol).
RedKRules
03-23-2007, 07:13 AM
I LOVED IT!! No more Mr. Nice Guy all the time and he did not need Red K to show it ......just GREAT :D
bobser
03-23-2007, 07:21 AM
The change is exactly what he needs. He needs to recognize that in body and ability, he is not human. This will lead to his cool, collected "Kryptonian" persona where he realizes he could never hope to be physically human, only guided by values imbued by the Kent's. That's his eventual Superman side.
Outside of that, he can embrace his be good ol' Clark, his chance to look like be just another guy in the crowd.
Mauve
03-23-2007, 07:55 AM
This behavior kinda reminds me of how Clark acted in 'Vengeance' the episode after 'Reckoning'.
quietone
03-23-2007, 08:03 AM
Proactive!Clark is much more interesting than Mopey!Clark.
Mischael12
03-23-2007, 08:32 AM
Yeah he isn't human, but whats with the whole Kryptonians don't have emotions crap?
Obviously his parents loved him, and Jor-el tried to save the whole race, so it wasn't simply about survival, but caring for people close to you, and your own kin.
dru-zod2501
03-23-2007, 08:41 AM
On one hand it was a major boost to see Clark taking the initiative (an exceptional scene out of the many we've had this season), but obviously he was doing this out of frustration and pain; I had For Tomorrow flashbacks and asked if Azzarello had written that scene
Peat Moss
03-23-2007, 09:01 AM
I've wanted to see this since Alicia died. When he yelled "No!!!!" at finding her dead, I half expected him to speed off to the FOS, get trained, and fly into the sky in his suit. Finally he channels his frustration into doing good!
sithius
03-23-2007, 09:10 AM
I don't like how he's being so aggressive. (Ie making criminals unconscious and leaving them by a police station. The Supes I know would just take them there, not beat them up. But he did say they were 'meteor freaks' but I still think he didn't need to really hurt them.)
On the other hand, he needs to be less of a pansy as seen in the other episodes.
We need a middle ground!
Originally posted by sithius
I don't like how he's being so aggressive. (Ie making criminals unconscious and leaving them by a police station. The Supes I know would just take them there, not beat them up. But he did say they were 'meteor freaks' but I still think he didn't need to really hurt them.)
On the other hand, he needs to be less of a pansy as seen in the other episodes.
We need a middle ground!
I didn't think it was just Clark doing the 'leaving people unconscious in police stations' I thought it was the JL too......
And remember that this Clark is still learning so he's got growning pains on how to take care of the villians - he'll come to a middle-ground.
In the meantime - I was just happy that he wasn't staring at the barn walls.
freefall
03-23-2007, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Mischael12
Yeah he isn't human, but whats with the whole Kryptonians don't have emotions crap?
Obviously his parents loved him, and Jor-el tried to save the whole race, so it wasn't simply about survival, but caring for people close to you, and your own kin.
Probably a heat in the moment thing. He reminds me a lot of the cold, apathetic and robotic Kal-El in Crusade, but the anger Clark has took it up a notch higher. I mean, even the Kal-El side at least doesn't have the intention to kill (he simply gets out the people who stand in his way) but Clark in Combat did. The way he said "Not if I KILL him first" and "My turn" just gave me shudders.
supes0
03-23-2007, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Ginx
In the meantime - I was just happy that he wasn't staring at the barn walls. [/B]
I wouldn't get my hopes up. I'm sure he'll soon be back in that loft, holding Lana's picture to his heart, sobbing, with "You and Me" playing softly in the background.
:rolleyes:
Mischael12
03-23-2007, 12:25 PM
Superman doesn't cutloose because most badguys can't take it, Clark was pretty much aware that titan could take it i don't blame him for kickin his arse like that.
smallvillechic
03-23-2007, 12:42 PM
i like clark this way know because he isn't moping aroun dfo lana any more. and he is more mature to the fact that she married lex.
Originally posted by supes0
I wouldn't get my hopes up. I'm sure he'll soon be back in that loft, holding Lana's picture to his heart, sobbing, with "You and Me" playing softly in the background.
:rolleyes:
You mean that same picture that he chucked last episode. I'm really hoping that we don't see Clark digging through the fields for that damn thing. Let it go man!!!! :p
And I really really hope that Clark doesn't go right back to hanging around feeling sorry for himself. Women like a man of action - get a clue.
supes0
03-23-2007, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Ginx
[B]You mean that same picture that he chucked last episode. I'm really hoping that we don't see Clark digging through the fields for that damn thing. Let it go man!!!! :p
:lol:
I'm sure he has multiple copies stored in every drawer in the house. A Lana shrine if you will..
Originally posted by supes0
:lol:
I'm sure he has multiple copies stored in every drawer in the house. A Lana shrine if you will..
LOL........:lol:
Guess you do need to keep multiple copies of pictures around when you've got super powers. Kinda like the Hulk and shoes......lol
jr23344
03-23-2007, 01:56 PM
THese last two episodes have been extremes for me. Last episode was like "what? you are such a wuss...punch somebody please!!!" and this episode was like "Whoaaa....dude you just killed someone." I agree with the whole middle ground. I also wanna see more intelligent and charming clark like we see in the movies. You know...confidence to go along with the braun. THat being said though man was it nice to see action and a no bull attitude.
Originally posted by jr23344
THese last two episodes have been extremes for me. Last episode was like "what? you are such a wuss...punch somebody please!!!" and this episode was like "Whoaaa....dude you just killed someone." I agree with the whole middle ground. I also wanna see more intelligent and charming clark like we see in the movies. You know...confidence to go along with the braun. THat being said though man was it nice to see action and a no bull attitude.
I really would like to think that the writers are doing this on purpose - showing that Clark is confused but that he's learning to take on more responsibilites and that he's ready to branch out.
I also would like to see the charm, confidence with the braun - but I do accept that it's a work in progress. That's what Smallville's all about imo. If you watch the show thinking you'll see Superman right now then yeah you're gonna be disappointed. But at the same time - it's a double-edged sword because it's season 6 almost season 7 and he's still flopping about - not saying I want Smallville to end - I want it to morph into something else - the next level.
Peat Moss
03-23-2007, 04:29 PM
This was a far swing for Clark. He'll eventually swing back and find a balance. Hopefully. Otherwise he'll just swing all the way back to angst-Clark.
I'm on Red K
03-23-2007, 04:50 PM
I like his new (much needed) attitude AND his leather jacket!
This was definitely a nice change from moping Clark, but I did miss one thing in this episode....he didn't smile once! I know he was knee deep in serious stuff, but there could have been at least one slice of good humuor somehwere.:( (correct me if I'm wrong, did he smile in this epi?)
Loislvesclark
03-23-2007, 07:45 PM
I think there needs to be a happy medium. I don't like his emotionlessness. I am glad he wasn't crying over lana, and that when he saw Lois in the ring and hurt he actually showed emotions. At a few points he seemed to cold and hard. I sometimes like the sexy red-k Clark, but even though he can be cruel he still has emotions.
jr23344
03-23-2007, 09:01 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ginx
I also would like to see the charm, confidence with the braun - but I do accept that it's a work in progress. That's what Smallville's all about imo. If you watch the show thinking you'll see Superman right now then yeah you're gonna be disappointed. But at the same time - it's a double-edged sword because it's season 6 almost season 7 and he's still flopping about - not saying I want Smallville to end - I want it to morph into something else - the next level.
That's what I was thinking. I've really enjoyed the journey since season 1 of clark becoming into this man and going through the growing pains associated with it. But, to me, this is a television series and at the end...even if he doesn't neccessarily become Supes, he should atleast have his characteristics. The one thing that really makes Christopher Reeve's great is his sense of humor. I really think Welling has the ability to be funny, but they never allow it. The scripts are always too dark which in my opinion is a mistake.
CK&CK
03-23-2007, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Ville317
He didn't kill Titan. He punched the crap out of him and Titan fell on his own "sword-hand." So Superman still hasn't killed anyone. Which is very good.
I've heard people say this, but to me it sounds reckless of Clark to go head to head out of anger......yeah, again, he's apparrently being the less than noble Clark Kent. My understanding from the spoilers are that he fought out of "I'm loosing Lana" anger...pufft....And for a moment, I was almost sorry I missed the episode. I bet he wasn't the least bit remorsefull at the end........except for not having been with Lana again.
BadToad
03-23-2007, 10:32 PM
Actually, he expressed a lot of remorse at the end, and questioned his actions. He wondered how he was going to be able to deal with the other 'zoners, since he can't send them back to the Phantom Zone, and obviously he can't let them roam around. He wondered if he would have to kill them, and if he did, how did that make him different from them.
He had some mixed up motives in this episode, but I like how he dealt with what he was feeling, and what happened at the end.
SpeedDemon77
03-24-2007, 02:27 AM
I'll post but I didn't participate in the thread's poll because there is no "other" option....and none of those represent my opinion for this darker side of Clark. No disrespect to the poll originator, of course. :)
But actually I didn't like or hate this representation of his darker side....nor did I feel indifferent to it. I think it's an extremely necessary emotion for Clark to display under the circumstances, and very much in tune with his iconic persona. He's realizing, as he did in "Promise" that it's time to step up and take charge of what he does with his life, his abilities and his destiny. I saw it as a start to Clark's determination to make things happen as opposed to waiting for them. It's a vital development toward evolving and finally settling into his future identities as both the proactive reporter (his desire to go after a story and get down to the bottom of it) and as the superhero (going out on his own and using his abilities to bring these so-called ultimate badasses to justice).
This "get-down-to-business" and far more proactive attitude is a significant development of his adult persona and becomes one of the things that Lex Luthor will hate about Clark Kent in the future. His dogged desire to uncover the story....get to the source. In this particular series it's going to begin with Clark delving deep enough to uncover the truth behind the underhanded deeds Lex is involved in, meaning everything from Level 33.1 and the exploitation of those who are meteor-infected to his manipulation and eventual intended destruction of Lana.
I think the final scene between Clark and Martha said it best. When Martha tells him that Lana made her decision to marry Lex, and Clark interjects "Or someone made it for her"....and then after Martha suggests that love means knowing when to let go, Clark gazes out the loft window to the horizon as if seeing that resignation and simply "letting go" is NOT his destiny. That scene became a clear reflection of his refusal to accept what everyone else sees as being apparent and his intention to uncover the entire truth when dealing with those in opposition to any form of justice. When Clark finally leaves Smallville for his training in the FOS it's going to be out of realizing he doesn't just have an obligation to protect those he loves close to home anymore, but to stand guard, so to speak, over an entire human race that he's grown to embrace as his own. He'll be far more aware of the fact that villains like Lex Luthor and others in Smallville are not the only ones, but that there are billions more like them out to destroy other factions of the Earth and the universe. He grows to see his broader responsibility to everyone....everywhere. That's when he can truly become a "man for the people".
Peat Moss
03-24-2007, 07:20 AM
I like when TW does get some humor in there, but it would have been out of place in this episode. And Superman was never the one for witty banter like Spiderman. It would have ruined it it Clark said "My turn," with a grin on his face, like he was enjoying it. The point of the episode was that Clark was struggling with how to deal with an enemy he had to kill.
chlark007
03-24-2007, 09:30 AM
move on clark..........with CHLOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saviour of Earth
03-24-2007, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by SpeedDemon77
I'll post but I didn't participate in the thread's poll because there is no "other" option....and none of those represent my opinion for this darker side of Clark. No disrespect to the poll originator, of course. :)
But actually I didn't like or hate this representation of his darker side....nor did I feel indifferent to it. I think it's an extremely necessary emotion for Clark to display under the circumstances, and very much in tune with his iconic persona. He's realizing, as he did in "Promise" that it's time to step up and take charge of what he does with his life, his abilities and his destiny. I saw it as a start to Clark's determination to make things happen as opposed to waiting for them. It's a vital development toward evolving and finally settling into his future identities as both the proactive reporter (his desire to go after a story and get down to the bottom of it) and as the superhero (going out on his own and using his abilities to bring these so-called ultimate badasses to justice).
This "get-down-to-business" and far more proactive attitude is a significant development of his adult persona and becomes one of the things that Lex Luthor will hate about Clark Kent in the future. His dogged desire to uncover the story....get to the source. In this particular series it's going to begin with Clark delving deep enough to uncover the truth behind the underhanded deeds Lex is involved in, meaning everything from Level 33.1 and the exploitation of those who are meteor-infected to his manipulation and eventual intended destruction of Lana.
I think the final scene between Clark and Martha said it best. When Martha tells him that Lana made her decision to marry Lex, and Clark interjects "Or someone made it for her"....and then after Martha suggests that love means knowing when to let go, Clark gazes out the loft window to the horizon as if seeing that resignation and simply "letting go" is NOT his destiny. That scene became a clear reflection of his refusal to accept what everyone else sees as being apparent and his intention to uncover the entire truth when dealing with those in opposition to any form of justice. When Clark finally leaves Smallville for his training in the FOS it's going to be out of realizing he doesn't just have an obligation to protect those he loves close to home anymore, but to stand guard, so to speak, over an entire human race that he's grown to embrace as his own. He'll be far more aware of the fact that villains like Lex Luthor and others in Smallville are not the only ones, but that there are billions more like them out to destroy other factions of the Earth and the universe. He grows to see his broader responsibility to everyone....everywhere. That's when he can truly become a "man for the people".
I think Speed Demon has said everything i was going to say!
I hated having Clark contemplating killing Titan i said to myself that i would rather have him all upset and emotional. However one thing Speed Demon mentioned and i completly agree with is that it shows Clark is at least trying to take some control over his life, going right after Lana not worrying about what other people think and the consequences and such. he is becoming more proactive however this episode he did it in such a wrong way. Clark/Superman would try to find a way to return the zoners back to the PZ why doesnt he go to the Fortress to find out.
However i like the expression of not willing to give up such a dogged drive to figure out the truth its almost inspiring.
If Speed Demon has predicted season 7 accurately then i will definetly feel it will be the best ever season.
wolverine316
03-25-2007, 05:57 AM
I loved it. It shut everyone up about Clark not being able to fight. In my opinion with the arsenal that Clark has, he could have destroyed Titan the second he entered the ring. After seeing him give Titan a severe asswhipping it proves to me that Clark was holding back against Zod and Batista.
Angelina2809
03-25-2007, 10:22 AM
I enjoyed this new side too!!!!
But I also think that Clark need a balance with his powers!!!!
It was a bit strange to see attack this way but it was cool too!!!
Yes, he must move on a life without a painful lovelife but deep inside I cannot stop myself to beeing a Clana life!!!!
But Clark must also protect Lana because of the evil Lex - but we will see more in the end of this episode!!!! GO ON CLARK!!!! What did Oliver said? LET'S GO SAVE THE WOLD!!!!!!
vouge09
03-25-2007, 10:52 AM
bout time he got off his a$$ and took care of the mess he created.
jr23344
03-25-2007, 06:04 PM
got a question...doesn't really have a whole lot to do with this thread but someone before mentioned that it was clark's all business attitude that Lex Luthor will someday hate. But just like in the movies Lois falls in love with Superman...not the clark we see....does Lex Luthor become enemies with just Superman or does he know about Clark too?
To me, it seems like its going to create problems because if Lex knows about Clark the reporter being Superman...theres no way Clark could have one day of peace at the office! (not that there is such a thing but...)
ClarksGal
03-26-2007, 09:55 AM
^^I've been wondering how they would work that out in SV too. The whole point to having a secret identity is so that your enemies won't know how to get you (or your loved ones) when you are not being the hero. I think that the Superman I movie might have even addressed that (it's been awhile since I saw it, so I could be wrong). IMO, Lex can never know that Clark is Superman. He will have to battle Clark and Superman separately. Maybe Clark can help bring Lex down by making his crimes public, and then Superman can battle him once he is a known criminal? Not sure.
LOL ^ Clark'sGal, that avi is hilarious.
I'm not sure how they will handle it either when Clark becomes Supes - I mean that is his destiny.....guess we'll just have to wait and see how it goes down. I think that it would add a level of evil to Lex if he knew that it was Clark because then he'd then know what Clark had been all along - the lying etc - that would push Lex further to the dark side.
Since this isn't Superman page for page as it is in the comics -they do have some wiggle room - but not much because the fans will start to complain or loose interest if the show doesn't at least try to hold true to the icon of Superman.
Sweetie
03-26-2007, 01:09 PM
I love it!!!It was about time,he threw some punches & kicks :D
SpeedDemon77
03-26-2007, 06:07 PM
Lex never knows that Clark Kent is Superman. Like everyone else, he just thinks that Clark works closely with Superman and probably knows more about him than anyone does...other than Lois Lane.
But Lex has a certain disdain for Clark the reporter....because of his knowledge about Supes, and the fact that Lex doesn't like Clark prying into his dirty dealings and everything else he's covertly involved in. That's why I think the turbulent relationship between Clark and Lex has already begun on Smallville. Lex won't like Clark's prying. He's already shown before that he doesn't. Clark doesn't like Lex for the evil deeds he's involved in.
So yeah, on the show, that part of their dislike for each other has already begun....and in the future, it never gets better.
Sharingan
03-26-2007, 10:39 PM
It was pretty awesome how Clark smirked right before dodging Titan's last thrust and launching his upper cut.
Jlvsclrk
04-16-2007, 11:31 AM
On the how will Clark convince Lex that he's not Superman front, I think it will work out just the way it happened in one of the very earliest post-Crisis Superman comics. S(v2)#2 I think from 1988. Lex is trying to figure out who Superman is: hires a scientist and crack team of specialists to investigate. They discover Lana is somehow always lurking in the crowd at Superman's appearances (long story), track her down, torture her, then let her loose. She goes running to Clark (big surprise), he (as Superman) attacks the lab she was being held at. Lex's team (expecting this) takes detailed biometric readings of Superman; does their analysis. Scientist presents conclusive proof to Lex that Superman is Clark Kent.
The kicker is this: Lex fires the scientist and makes her un-employable because she jumped to the "WRONG" conclusion. Lex will never be able to believe that SUPERMAN (the real deal) would choose to masquerade as a human being at all, much less Clark Kent. Because Lex sees the world through his own distorted values, he assumes that with all Superman's power, Superman would live in lordly isolation, consorting only with his fellow superbeings.
I don't think Smallville has all that far to go on this front actually, what with Lex's disdainful "when I thought you mattered" [or something like that] when he told Clark he understands Lana's fixation about learning the truth. I like to think that he'll convince himself that Clark's secret is that he's covering for the real Superman. This will in turn make Lex hate Superman for being what came between him and the only real friend he ever had (well one of three if you count Lana and the guy from Reunion. I certainly don't.)
Oh and Lex did find out once about the secret ID: when he was president of the US. He let Clark know he knew but held off on taking action until he could figure out how to turn it to his advantage. Then Lex had the knowledge erased thanks to Manchester Black, though Lex knows that he once knew the secret. He blames his erased memory on the JLA Identity Crisis.
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