Loved It? Hate It? What did you think of Combat?

[Krypton935]

Rate the episode here.

[clois_lover10]

I'm so tempted to vote right now- must...control...urge....

[HnK]

i couldn't TEN FTW

[bball44j]

This should be an action packed episode.

[superhippie2000]

ya im hoping its a good episode. would be cool to see clark do rayas roundhouse.

[RedBullet]

Awesome ep!!!!!

[MidgardDragon]

Judging by the last episode that had a wrestler in it and was filler, I'm going to guess that the fan's are going to rate this one low. I, however, am looking forward to it being at least decent, around a 7 or 8 out of 10.

[Raging Clue]

Lois is finally back. I'm tempted to give it a 10 now ;)

[jimmyolsenblues]

i wish we could turn off voting till 8pm eastern standard time, how can people vote if the episode has not aired?

[SuperFan85]

Green Arrow makes a brief appearance!

[svfan50]

I am loving it till now!~~ Its really kool!!

[man of steel37013]

BEST EPISODE YET. MAN OF STEEL HAS ARRIVED

[superhippie2000]

i enjoyed this episode a lot and had the best fight season imo in the whole series. damn that lex baby picture burner errrrrrrr.

[bball44j]

This is a really great episode because Clark finally showed some a*s kicking skills. Great fight by him and Titan. I loved the Superman refernce "Man of Steel" and when Chloe said that Maddox was a Vince McMahon wannabe. That was a really weird picture of the baby at the end.

[Supermansthebest]

It was so good from beginning to end. Strted off with pissed off Clark, then the whole fighting scene. And the end, the end was just awesome, so uncomfortable, I could feel Lana's pain and Lex, no one can save him now. Hes gone, hes evil

[Ginx]

OMG!!!!! Best episode of the season yet. At least in my opinion. We finally get to see Clark using his abilities without holding back and looking towards the future.

I was hoping for a good fight and I got just what I wanted. 'Fatality' punch and the 'Not if I kill him first' and the 'My Turn' - it's a take-no-crap Clark. Kombat...I mean Combat kicked a lot of butt and not just while Clark was in the ring.

Now I'm a fan of the hot guys but I do have to give props that Lois was wearing a kick ass outfit - too bad we didn't get to see her and Clark fight a bit. Funny when she punched him and hurt her hand!!! That's right - Man of Steel right there!!!

Granted.....it's not usually a Superman trait to kill people but Titan was a Zoner and there was no other option - so the end justifies the means in my opinion.

And we got to see some interaction between JL and Clark again - even if it's from behind the scenes. Got to see Chloe helping out but not doing everything for Clark again. This episode rocked!!!

Oh and I had to give it a 10!!!

[l o i s 4 ever]

I think this episode was a bit crammed. I was soo happy that Lois was back!! Although she didn't have much to say or do.

When Lois and Clark were verse eachother they should have made it longer.. I mean.. she punches him, and then that kane guy comes.. I woulda like to see what Clark and Lois woulda done!

I'd rate it about 7 or 8.

Welcome back Lois! XD

[thehenry89]

i think this was a pretty solid episode start to finish. you have a great fight scene (minimal amounts of lana/clana) great humour, and some clois. 9 out of 10

[xHerox]

I really have mixed feelings about this episode. I started out getting a definite "Exposed" vibe from it, with the crime taking place at the beginning and then the whole episode being built around it. I was surprised - and loved it - when Lois dropped the "stars and stripes" comment about stripping.

Although the ending fight was amazing, I really think the whole episode was made for that reason and therefore I have to give this episode a 6. It may have been a 7 if it hadn't followed the amazing episode "Promise", which makes "Combat" pale in comparison, even if they are completely different in tone.

[lillie_poo_pod]

It was ok. Gave it a 6. The whole scene with Lex was a tad too long. It was nice to see Clark get his ass handed to him. :) The fight with Lois and Athena wasn't about nothing. That could have been longer. I wanted Clark to like tap Lois on the head and knock her out but Kane did it. I did like Kane. I love Kane. He's so cool. The way he died was hella stupid. And I can't believe I just typed hella. I liked the fact that they decided to mention Chloe's latent krypto power. It shows they didn't forget about it.

Overall it was just ok. It was a step up from the wreck that was Promise though.

[Kid Collins]

It was okay. The highlight was Clark's fight with Titan.

I'm jumping for joy that Lana lost the so called devil's spawn. Like it ever existed! :lol:

Kristin should get an Emmy just for her crying scenes!

Definitely a big step down from last week's amazing Promise.

[Ilovebeinglost]

I loved it.

I also loved the speech Clark made to his Mom at the begining as short lived as that was. I was cheering yeah yeah yippeeeeeeee

What a waste of an outfit for Lois to come out and get knocked out. Who does she think she is Lana? hehehhehe I thought there was going to be more but I guess that's the problem with watching spoilers.

I did cry for Lana, the only thing she had left was hopes for that baby.

[loistickyfingerz]

I thought this episode was pretty weak. The highlights were Clark's attitude and the Lex scenes.

I love Lois and Erica but it seemed like her character was just shoved into this story to boost the male demographic rating.

Lana crying, boo-hoo, Kristin cries so well it was good that was pretty much all she did.

The story seemed like a weak jumble of standard season 6 plot elements fixed around a couple of guest stars and their specialties. Sorry, that's just my op.

Lex was great though. I love how obviously evil he was in every scene while still managing to be a slime ball pulling the wool over Lana's eyes. At this point, her character deserves it. How do you even buy that you're actually pregnant when at virtually 6 months you still have no stomach?

Again, just my opinion, I don't read spoilers, so maybe that's just a major oversight on the part of the producers, but come on....

[ChlarkFan01]

It was an okay episode. I gave it a 6 out of 10. I liked the Clark/Titan fight but some of the special effects were a little too video game for me. Loved seeing GA take out the camera in Corto Moltese:) Also, love the mention of Chloe's latent power, and the Chlark investigating!

[Luv Clana/Hate Lexana]

I fast fowarded through most of it...

Kristin was superb. And Lex should rot in hell.

[cmm]

I gave it a 9 Lois's outfit annoyed me. She's doing an investigation that she had no info on other than where the room in the picture was, and she goes dressed like that?!?!? I just didn't get her wardrobe choice.

[bball44j]

She was desperate for a story, so she looked for anything that was there, and as for that suit she did say she was a stripper.

[cayayofm]

This was supposed to be an arc episode?

Clark fighting the zoners was boring, Lex and Lana, boring, Clark moping over Lana, BORING. Overall pretty boring.

[Meteror Freak]

Finally a really good fighting scene. But I hated that the baby died, so.......I give it a six

[Krypton935]

10 no doubt!!! that ep was amazing! Besides the amazing fight clark became a hero and the baby story is going somewhere! this was amazin! I LOVE SMALLVILLE!

[ClarkyBoy14]

9/10
I would have given it a ten, but that Lexana scene was way too drawn out. Couldn't we have gotten more fighting instead of Lana looking at the wall?
The "Exposed" ref. was hilarious, and the action was great, probably the best action ep. of the season. I loved seeing kick-butt Clark, refs. to Nell, GA, and Chloe's power. I felt bad for Lana and Lex is evil, I love it!
"Combat" was a great ep. I am mad at the CW, though for not giving us a preview for the final five.


Originally posted by cayayofm
This was supposed to be an arc episode?

Clark fighting the zoners was boring, Lex and Lana, boring, Clark moping over Lana, BORING. Overall pretty boring. :rolleyes: All I can do is roll my eyes at that post.:rolleyes:

[quietone]

I liked most of it. Could have done without all the Lexana drama. Lana losing the baby wasn't a shocker; I had a feeling that was going to happen way back when she first found out she was pregnant. The only thing I'm interested in is learning about Lex's role in the pregnancy and the miscarriage. I'm sure he had something to do with that miscarriage. Quite frankly, I don't feel sorry for Lana at all. And the Lexana marriage itself....zzzzzz.

So glad to see Clark being proactive instead of moping about the Lexana marriage. I just hope he follows Martha's advice and lets it go. Nice to see you again Mama Kent instead of the imposter who has been standing in for you most of the season. Clark needs to focus on the Zoners and his training.

Good to see Lois back. It's nice to have at least one character on this show who isn't wrapped up in the Lexana drama. Loved her reference to Exposed.

The Titan/Clark fight scene was really good and better than the Batista/Clark fight from Static. The ring announcer reminded me of The Joker.

[BeldarofRemulak]

I was ok...nothing too special. Some parts were just painful to watch because it seemed so pathetic.

[cayayofm]

Originally posted by ClarkyBoy14
9/10

:rolleyes: All I can do is roll my eyes at that post.:rolleyes:

I can do the same thing for yours.

The episode had nothing going on for it. The only good thing is that for once they maneged to have a decent fight, wich you loved, but the whole zoners stroryline has been totally uninteresting. Tonight's episode showed how underdeveloped and superficial this arc is.

[spideyfan]

I liked it b/c I thought this was going to be a filler but it moved the plot along somewhat.

CK had a good fight with another super-power and won...
Had Lois after a few episodes of missing her...
The whole Lana=pregnant thing is over ....Lana lost the baby...now we can see what Lex is doing with it..
CK is finally doing good by catching bad guys...

8/10

[svfan50]

I would also say 8....,...2 points deducted...
1 because of lexana drama...
and 2....not much Chlark...but then it was fine....

I agree it was a filler...but it was very nice to see the fight...we needed it..after watching clark doing nothing but...moping and crying over LAna...

[Thil_EL]

it was avery decent episode! i gave it a 7! The fight scene was awesome and i was actually inerested in the lexana storyline!
a lois episode is usually abad thing for me but i didnt mind her in this episode!

[CallMeClark]

It was dumb. Wow. That was one boring hour of Smallville. Gave it a 5.

I thought the episode was typical, predictable and just not at all enjoyable to watch. Bad idea.


Originally posted by cayayofm
This was supposed to be an arc episode?

Clark fighting the zoners was boring, Lex and Lana, boring, Clark moping over Lana, BORING. Overall pretty boring.
I agree! One of the worst for the season, for me.

And I could not agree more about the arc. I have been talking about it all season. It was a weak substitute for a Freak of the Week. This season has had good episodes, but the arc was horrible.

[Cyn]

If the baby had burst out of Lana's chest ala "Alien" I would have rated this episode an 11.<g> However, after the vomit inducing Promise episode, I rate it a strong 8. Clark looked HOTTTTT! Martha was pretty much back to normal. Chloe speculated on just what her krypto power was. (I personally think it is the all powerfull MARYSUE power. Nothing in this 'verse is stronger.)<G> Lois was totally kickass. What more could you ask for...

Other thought:

Lex - Excellent forward progression into evil'ness.
Lana - I'm sorry you lost the baby, but rot in hell.
Chloe - Kinda cool speculation on your krypto power.
Martha - Hello, welcome back after your crack induced performance in Promise.

[BadToad]

I'd give this one an 8 based on the fight scene alone. Now, finally, that was GOOD.

An interesting episode, oddly structured, but overall entertaining. I really liked the Clark stuff in it. I liked his channeling his energies in the right direction, but not exactly in the right way. Thats a good life lesson for him to learn. And I liked his focus on the 'zoners at the end, wondering just how many might be here, and pondering how to handle them. Thats good stuff. And luckily the moping over Lana was at a minimum.

Loved the Clark/Chloe scenes. They bicker like an old married couple, and its hilarious.

The Lex/Lana stuff was chilling. I felt much more sympathy for Lana this week then last.

But, the big minus on this episode was how badly they handled the Lois part of it. Her role in this episode didn't seem developed, or necessary, and she really didn't have any significant interaction with anyone. This was a waste of one of ED's 13, IMO.

[Cyn]

My computer HATES this site! Every time I try to post a reply something happens to screw it up.

To continue my reply:

Lois - The kickass was awesome. She is so believable doing it. However, what was up with that outfit. It was awesome in the ring, but wearing it into the building was just asking to be killed.

Clark - I liked the pissed off Clark. I dispised the, "but maybe something made her react that way" Pu**Y boring Clark. GET OVER IT!!! It's time to more forward. Clark in black leather was HOTTTTTT!!!

[lillie_poo_pod]

Originally posted by BadToad

But, the big minus on this episode was how badly they handled the Lois part of it. Her role in this episode didn't seem developed, or necessary, and she really didn't have any significant interaction with anyone. This was a waste of one of ED's 13, IMO.

ITA. She didn't really do anything. This episode was really a waste of ED's 13. They could have easily put her in "Progeny" since it's dealing with her family, but TPTB wasted that. It's such a shame really. At least she has a bigger role in future episodes.

[seraphim]

Gave it an 8 based on the fight scene with Clark and Kane. I also enjoyed how we're seeing Lex's evilness being continuously developed....the music when Lex told Lana about the baby was creepy!

[STFanatic]

Ahhh.. ****, I accidentally gave it a "10", I meant 8 but I missed.
The pilot episode was the only "10" I have ever given.

I really really liked the no holds barred fight scene, that is what I was waiting for since the pilot episode.
The fight effects were very good. IMO, The misscarrage could have been done in another episode, it took away from the action filled feel of this one.

"I don't know how to send them back into the Phantom Zone."

Umm.. how about asking Jor-el? That could be a starting point or are we to forget all about it?

He does remember Raya right?

[Darth Pipes]

I thought the episode had some good stuff. Definitely cool to see a pro-active Clark instead of just waiting for stuff to happen. We get to see him finally cut loose and convincingly beat a Zoner.

Liked the Green Arrow cameo too. I agree that the Lexana scene REALLY drag on at the end. Felt like a twenty-minute scene.

[coasterprincess]

Uh....are these new episodes...I feel like it's season 5 all over again. I couldn't put my finger on it, but after wandering here it hit me that Promise was like Reckoning....this was like Vengeance (minus the girl and her contacts *rolls eyes*) Clark losing something...Clark angry....Matha's all "snap out of it"....Clark prepares to kill someone....yup....creative guys...thanks.

Okay now that that mini-rant's over

The Good
~uhh...the return of the zoners?...finally aiming towards getting back on track for the main plot of this season
~mini-cameo by Green Arrow on Lex's computer showing the 33.1s taken out...continuity...it lives!!

The Bad
~Lexana....not that i'm unhappy the evil baby (that probably wasn't a real human baby) is gone....but watching those scenes is now painful. She's got him wrapped around her finger, and doesn't care in the slightest...I'm totally over it. Maybe now that the baby's gone...the marriage will be annulled, and Lana will FINALLY leave the show
~Lois....not that i don't like her...there's usually some real potential when she stops in....but how can you take her character remotely seriously when she steals a story from her cousin (which would have been worse had Chloe actually wanted to use the story) and dress like some weird mix of a hooker, a ninja (or basically that comic book girl...Elektra?...something like that)

6/10...but only cuz Clark was the Man of Steel

[meteor_phreak]

I absolutely loved this episode. it's good to see the "let go" martha show back up. it's good to see clark acting like he's on his way to something important. I also gotta give kudos to michael rosenbaum. he does a better job than the material warrants, on making lex look conflicted.

even lois, playing like another stripper, looked courageous and tried to protect her friend in a fight she probably knew she couldn't win.

[cybernetix]

"The Man Of Steel" This is the only quote interesting in this episode. This is definetely a filling episode. The only interesting this is the Lana's pregnancy(the end of...). Other than that ....Borring

[elw82078]

It was a one hell of a great kick ass action packed episode ever in this season so far.

[Dpride360]

Finally... clark kent acting like a man... why did I have to wait this long? Oh well, just keep it up.

[newfamfan]

Actually Lois was dressed like Brittany Spears from 'Oops I did it again" While Ashley was dressed like Brittany from earlier years. See..there was a theme.

I loved this episode. Tom in leather..that is enuff said.

However, many may disagree. But I feel there was an underlying theme here...and I'm going to catch flack I'm sure..but don't care. I still see it this way and NO amount of debate will change my mind. Lana is Clark's connection to humanity. He was more Kal-el in this episode than ever because he was trying to dehumanize himself due to the loss of Lana.

Any way, the fight scene was the best we've seen in a long time on SV..and Tom was once again the star of his own show. Clois foreshadowing wasn't there..so seeing Lois didn't make me want to hurl a shoe at my tv. I was okay with her.

Love Chlark friendship and especially when Clark can think on his own but still can get help from his best friend.

Martha flip flopping isn't so ridiculous from a mother's POV. She wanted Clark to try when he had his last chance. Lana being married is a time for him to let go as far as Martha sees. She doesn't know Lana's emotions that Clark witnessed...her love for him in Promise..so mom is doing what is best for son..and no one else.

[ForzaItalia]

AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!!

The first truly great episode of season 6 that did not have Green Arrow/Oliver Queen in it! I gave it a 10, though I’d give it a 12 if that were an option!

[iluvsmallville1010]

I gave it a 6. It was good, however it wasn't my favorite. It was better than a lot of them from this season, however.

It kind of made me sad about the baby dying. But after that pic that Lex burned, maybe it's a good thing. It was very demon like, ewww. I hope Lana finds out how two-faced her husband is soon.

I have to say, Clark, nice job with the fighting! I felt like I was watching a real wrestling match, cheering Clark on and booing and stuff.

I loved when the Belle Reeve dude was all "You know I saw your pretty face..." or whatever, and I was thinking, "yeah, Clark, you're not ugly enough to be involved in this."

Overall, not too shabby an eppy. Can't wait till next eppy.

[artemis_x]

It was eh for me. I thought that the acting was pretty bad in this one. I like how Clark had to grapple with being an alien/human though. Showed character development and stuff. The story was ok.

On a fantastic note, Clark looked soooooooo hot in this one! I don't know if it was the lighting or angles or what. I don't normally gush like this, but OMG! The way his hair was done he really looked like superman!!! The story and iffy acting didn't matter so much, cuz his beautiful face totally made it allll good.

[trying2b]

The girls were flirting with one another. They looked like Britney Spears wannabees.

[__jb]

I gave it an 8... It was a good standalone episode... Lana lost the non-baby and Clark zapped another Zoner.

I liked that Clark was finally assertive in this episode. It was almost like he was on Red K or something. I liked his assertiveness, but didn't really like seeing him kill someone. That's the first time I can remember him, or any Superman, actually killing someone... although there probably was no other way out of this particular dilemma.

I was expecting to see the camera pan up from Lex's face to see Lana watching at the end of the episode. I thought Lana might see him burning her medical records.

[I am the Superman]

My scene by scene comments...

Wow, 1 week later, looks like lex didnt get the honey moon payoff, she cant even bare to kiss him anymore, I dont see how this marriage can possibly continue much longer without some major major blow up between them.

Clark looks like hes taking his frustrations with lana out on some poor freaks, GOOD!

Getting tips from oliver...GOOD!

BIG BADDY...GOOD!

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This is the show I have been waiting for. Not for the T&A or Lois in skin tight leather, which was nice. Clark letting go a little bit and just beating the hell out of someone. I am so sick and tired of him going down like a little ***** everytime someone with any power comes after him. I liked seeing him fight.


Whats this? Someone who LIKES seeing superman fight? AM I DREAMING? I was under the assumption every superman fan loved seeing superman talk to people, liked seeing get his ass kicked, liked seeing him be a pansy, wtf is going on?

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I did, however, find the puss n boots comment amusing.

Also, if in fact lois was there to snap some photos, why in the world would she choose to wear red spandex? Thats not undercover clothes, makes no sense.

Well, cant say i expected clark to have to fight lois, dont know how hes gonna get outta this one.

WOW, AN ACTUAL ATTEMPT AT A FIGHT SEQUENCE, WTF IS GOING ON THIS SEASON. I still would have liked it to be longer, and realistically titan wouldnt have stood a chance against superman, but ill give it props, its more then we get in a whole season. Hell, the whole series basically.

Wow, some real conflict of emotions with clark? believable conflict, i like it,

Also I find Lanas miscarriage a little convenient. I bet lex gave her somthing in her drink. Wait, maybe while she was out she had the baby?

No preview means no smallville next week?

I give it a 5 out of 5 just because they actually made an effort to produce a fight scene.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Very entertaining epi, I enjoyed it.
Gave it a '7'.

[redeem147]

When I heard that wrestlers were on the episode, I had the same reaction that I always do to shows with wrestlers - this was not going to be good.

Glad to be wrong.

One thing that really caught my attention, and since I'm new to the forums perhaps it's already been discussed ad naseum, but it's the parallels in Clark and Lex' lives. This week Clark killed a man by accident. Last week it was Lex (and while that death was fortutious for Lex, I think he was surprised to realize the doctor was dead).

Both Lex and Clark have controlling, powerful and selfish natural fathers. Both feel strong emotional connections to Smallville (the town, not the show) even though Clark is from Krypton and Lex is from Metropolis.

There's a lot of others I could mention, but the big one at the moment is the desire for Lana. It was inevitable that they would both fall for the same woman.

Lex has always coveted Clark's happy family life, and now Clark covets Lex' (or what he perceives to be Lex family with Lana).

Both men are on a path to greatness, but Clark as the selfless hero (good) and Lex as the selfish despot (evil).

I guess that's a lot to get out of an episode with wrestlers.

[Hockeyking]

First off does anyone on this site even read comic books. This show has turned into such a farce it really is unwatchable. I'm so sick of krypto this, and krypto that, what do the writers think the intelligence level of the viewers are. Clark Kent aka Superman does not KILL period. I don't care about the times are changing and everybody's shock values are numb. This show had potential in the beginning to show what it was like for Superman growing up. It should of lasted 3 or 4 seasons and that's final. This is season 6 and there will probably be a season 7, and yet we're getting Superman Lite stories. Lex has been emasculated and should really be a villain of the week. Pure and simple Lex is evil, not misunderstood, whiny, or in puppy love with a small town coffee waitress. Who ever gave the green light to bring Lois to Smallville should be fired. In the scene with Chloe and Clark she comes off as a low rent tabloid columnist how this girl turns into a pulitzer prise writer is beyond me. For these reasons alone the show cant get higher then a 5.

[MidgardDragon]

I have to say the ep really surprised me and has me thinking it will have more mass appeal with the fans than I expected. I, for one, rated it a solid 9/10. It did, however, disappoint me in that it turned the show into an action-fest without much heart/substance. Let's face it, without the Titan vs. Man of Steel fight, the whole episode would've been lame. But, then again, they did pretty much promote the whole episode as the big "fighting" episode so it did exactly what it promised to do. Have to give it props for that.

As long as this kind of episode stays in the minority, and Smallville continues to be more about the journey without having to resort to "cool fights" to be good, then I'm fine with it. I enjoyed the episode thoroughly and was cheering Clark on. It really surprised me because I'm not a wrestling fan at all, and half expected Kane to start whacking Clark with a chair and screaming "I'M GONNA F YOU UP!" I'm very impressed with the fight and that was what the episode was mainly about, so again, a 9/10. The rest of the stuff really mattered not, but perhaps that's because I already knew Lana would lose the baby. I'm sad that we didn't get any Lionel. I half-expected him to show up when Lex was burning the documents and tell him it was all going according to plan.

ETA: I have to say, the stuff with Lois and Ashley flirting was actually pretty entertaining. I knew I'd hear plenty of gay-bashing and stuff like the guy earlier who said "the homo scene should've been left on the cutting room floor" but it was worth it. The whole episode was about violence, why not add some sex into the mix? I half expected Ashley's char to kiss Lois, and would've been perfectly okay with it if they did it. If you're gonna do a mass-appeal sex and violence episode, I say you should go all the way. The fact that they left it at just flirting hurt the episode a teeny-tiny bit for me because it seemed half-hearted due to the writers holding back.

[RMF]

Meh.

There's nothing here but the brainless fun of watching the big fight scene, and even that is ruined in the end by Clark essentially killing someone. The writers have been playing with the idea of Clark killing someone all season long, as if it's edgy or something, when it's really just revolting. Is he supposed to have to learn not to kill? Why? Didn't the Kents raise him right? And the silly followup is that Clark doesn't know how to put the escapees back in the Phantom Zone, so his only choice is to kill them. Come on. We saw him reactivate the FoS at the end of "Fallout", so why doesn't he just go ask Jor-el for one of those ring portals that Zod had?

The other issue with Clark is that he finally goes out and starts capturing criminals, but it's only because he's p*ssed off at losing Lana, not because people need saving. That is unworthy of the character. And he's unexplainably forgotten that he realized last week that Lana had been forced into her decision, even if he didn't know why. That causes him to try to shut off his emotions and start beating people up. Yeah, it is a "Vengeance" retread, but it just cheapens the conclusion of the earlier episode. I guess Jonathan Kent's guiding voice is now silent.

The Lexana stuff was well acted, but basically just more soap-opera garbage.

Poor old Martha Kent undergoes another flipflop. I busted up laughing when I realized she had gone back to telling him to leave Lana alone. Clark really needs to start traveling the world to get away from people like this.

Finally, Lois is totally trivialized here. She's about to get fired because she can't find a story on her own, so she begs Chloe for one and then steals from her when that doesn't work. Her "journalism" is all magic, as there just happens to be a code on a crate in the background of the picture that just happens to belong to a military base that she was on as a kid, just so she can recognize it. What a shame that people like Clark and Chloe have to do actual detective work. Then Lois gets to once again be the T&A in the plot. Wow. What a great take on an iconic character. :rolleyes:

[dietcoke12]

This episode threw for a bit of a loop. I was expecting the whiny clark that always seems to poke his head up when something goes wrong. I did not expect clark's reaction to the Lexana marriage to be as extreme as when Jonathan Kent died. That being said, despite the reasons behind Clark's motivation, It is certainly nice to see clark acting more supermanly. I was let down by the development of the episode. There was no explanation as to how Titan knew clark was there, or who clark was, ect. Also, there is always the downside of the writers using the unconscious copout to save clark yet again. The only redeeming part of that portion of the episode was Clark's rage and fighting.

Lex is definately up to something big. Lana did not miscarry and it is a true testament to Lex's conversion to evil how he is able to feign such strong emotions towards the woman that he supposedly cares about. This whole arc is probably going to carry over to the last episodes of the season. I also enjoyed the continuity that the Justice League update gave. It is good to know that their involvement off screen is not vanishing into thin air. I give this episode an 8/10 purely because of Clark's fight scenes, the cameo by Green Arrow, and the movement in the Season Long story arcs.

[redkrypclark]

im disappointed a little they lead me to believe that lex was going to be watching the fight and he wasnt i wanted him to watch clark do to titan what he will to lex and 33.1. i want the air to be cleared about everything im to impatient lol. i want a lana and clark confrontation again along with a lana and lionel confrontation and then a clark confrontation with lionel after learning about the deal lionel made lana to. so in short a lot of talking and people who are mad. i also wanted a longer fight scene between titan and clark. so i will give the episode a 8 it was good not great.

[moody12381]

During the opening of this episode when Titan hit the guy I was in my head thinking yeah if this guy really hits this hard he won't be holding back and this guy should be dead. Then I realized it was Clark. I immediately changed my tune and was like awesome!. My only dislike with the ep had to be Ashley and how not so good of an actress she is. Other than that it was KICK@$$!

[chlarkfan333]

I gave this one an 8. Strangely, this is one of the few times I didn't think Lexana was a waste of screentime. Their respective and combined arcs actually progressed signaficantly but didn't take away from the A plot.

It's a sad day when so many of us are gung-ho about an angry Clark who is driven to kill because he has had his heart broken. That alone made me give take away a point and a half. I would have much preferred a Clark who had merely decided he has wasted enough time on a silly girl and the world has bigger problems he can help take care of.

My other gripe is about how little and poorly Lois was used in this episode. I was actually looking forward to seeing some Lois action (I have no idea why!) and was disappointed with what we got.

No other complaints.

[jack1487]

Originally posted by I am the Superman
My scene by scene comments...

Wow, 1 week later, looks like lex didnt get the honey moon payoff, she cant even bare to kiss him anymore, I dont see how this marriage can possibly continue much longer without some major major blow up between them.

Clark looks like hes taking his frustrations with lana out on some poor freaks, GOOD!

Getting tips from oliver...GOOD!

BIG BADDY...GOOD!

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This is the show I have been waiting for. Not for the T&A or Lois in skin tight leather, which was nice. Clark letting go a little bit and just beating the hell out of someone. I am so sick and tired of him going down like a little ***** everytime someone with any power comes after him. I liked seeing him fight.


Whats this? Someone who LIKES seeing superman fight? AM I DREAMING? I was under the assumption every superman fan loved seeing superman talk to people, liked seeing get his ass kicked, liked seeing him be a pansy, wtf is going on?

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BAD: Completly disgusting, forced, and out of place homo scene should have been left at the cutting room floor. The whole scene was stagnant.
I did, however, find the puss n boots comment amusing.

Also, if in fact lois was there to snap some photos, why in the world would she choose to wear red spandex? Thats not undercover clothes, makes no sense.

Well, cant say i expected clark to have to fight lois, dont know how hes gonna get outta this one.

WOW, AN ACTUAL ATTEMPT AT A FIGHT SEQUENCE, WTF IS GOING ON THIS SEASON. I still would have liked it to be longer, and realistically titan wouldnt have stood a chance against superman, but ill give it props, its more then we get in a whole season. Hell, the whole series basically.

Wow, some real conflict of emotions with clark? believable conflict, i like it,

Also I find Lanas miscarriage a little convenient. I bet lex gave her somthing in her drink. Wait, maybe while she was out she had the baby?

No preview means no smallville next week?

I give it a 5 out of 5 just because they actually made an effort to produce a fight scene.


I agree that Lex gave her something in that drink they had. One thing that I have been thinking about is what if the baby is not dead and in fact at level 33.1. If you look at his face when he is comforting her there seemed to me that he was not sad, in fact I thought that he had a small smile on his face.

Tom gave a great preformance in this one you could see all of the emotion's going on in his mind. Great job guys..


Anyhow my 2 cents worth, oh! yeah I gave it a 10..


Jack

[maryjanewatson]

i thought it was going to suck beause of the wrestlers and the preview looks reeaaaaaallyy stupid, but in the end, it turned out to be my 2nd favorite episode this season! it almost made up for last weeks crap fest.

[smvlladdict]

I loved it!! Superman never kills, but Clark does!!! I guess Clark was'nt the only one who had a secret identity!! Maddox the fight promoter was cool to watch. What a scuz!! Great writing!! Finally Clark working out his anger!! Lex is truly evil. What happened to Athena I wanted to see her fight!!

and oh Martha Flip-flopping again!!! Make up your mind!! Everybody knows when you have conflict your supposed to work it out by talking not by fighting, but Clark is only a teenager! Remember!!

Lana, Lana, Lana, You knoww you love Clark Just go get him and F*** everyone else!!!

[Shadow116]

10

I loved Clark actually not looking back adn playing rought this episode better then the usually weak AU SV Clark we get :D.

And Lois in her great return was fun and had some memorable scnese :lol:.

Didn't have much Chloe but she did seem nippy with Clark,but its understandable.

Lana was nothing special I hate SV Lana,comic book Lana rules,but I could feel her pain in the final scenes and she kind of reminded me of Lex's mom.

And meanwhile Lex is perfectly evil and he is a great puppetmaster orchestrating events and such.

And I don't feel too bad for the baby if there was one I mean Lex has a daughter in the comic books(Lena Luthor,named after his first love taht was killed by his foster father) that he actually keeps,yet trades away to braniac for a bit :lol:.

But yeah Lex was at his evil best.

And from Titan I got a Doomsday vibe from him and that made things a bit interesting. And that fight was actually good :D.

Yeah this episode was amazing :D


Originally posted by smvlladdict
I loved it!! Superman never kills, but Clark does!!! I guess Clark was'nt the only one who had a secret identity!! Maddox the fight promoter was cool to watch. What a scuz!! Great writing!! Finally Clark working out his anger!! Lex is truly evil. What happened to Athena I wanted to see her fight!!

and oh Martha Flip-flopping again!!! Make up your mind!! Everybody knows when you have conflict your supposed to work it out by talking not by fighting, but Clark is only a teenager! Remember!!

Lana, Lana, Lana, You knoww you love Clark Just go get him and F*** everyone else!!!

and one thing your wrongs Superman has killed before but only when the need is great enough.

his victims in the comics,3 AU Kryptonian criminals,Doomsday,and another or two.

[thmallville]

I HAVE NEVER IN MY WHOLE LIFE, NOT EVEN AFTER THE CAR CRASH THAT WAS RECKONING, EVER EVER EVER BEEN SO ASHAMED TO BE A SMALLVILLE FAN!!!!!

IT WAS SO BAD!!

[svfan50]

Combat was good..!! How can you find it pathetic???? Everybody is sort of relieved they dint have it as a moping drama...the fight scene was awsome...between Clark and Titan....!! Why are you saying like this???????????

[Chloe>All]

I gave it an 8.

I loved the fight scene. They both whipped each other pretty good. Clark decided to be badass for once.

We're left hanging with what Lex "really" did with the baby.

Lois' part seemed kind of rushed, hence no perfect 10.

[friday]

Except for Lana losing her baby and implying that Lex is behind her miscarriage, this episode was a complete bore and waste of time! Ugh!


:o

[superman2001]

I thought The Episode was Fantastic, I really did Enjoy it, My Favorite Scene in The Episode is when Clark is talking to that Guy in The Parking Lot, and The Guy shoots at him, and Clark stops The Bullet with his hand, And I also the Fight between Clark and Titan was Awesome, the best Fight in the Series, I can't wait to see The Next New Episode, it is going to be great.

[CallMeClark]

2nd Worst of the season for me, right behind Wither.

[Super Maverick]

this episode was sweet. that ashley chick is even in playboy this month!

i'm glad to finally see some good fighting sequences. and dang did lois look great.

[BOSOX671]

Excellent episode. It's great to finally see Clark kick some butt. Makes me say ZOD! CLARK WANTS A REMATCH!

[brainiacisfine]

I thought the episode was awesome until the end where Clark just had to bring up the wedding. I was really hoping we could go one whole hour without him mentioning Lana. But, other than that, I loved it. I had to rewind to watch the fight scene again. It was so cool to FINALLY see him in action like that. I hope this is the new and improved Clark. I gave it a 10.

[Jaded Wolf]

I gave this a 7. The only thing this episode had going for it was the fact that Clark was unleashed. His emotions at the beginning when he told Martha he was not a human was moving. Then when he told the Titan character "My turn" I thought was awesome as well. Is it me or did Kane's character resemble Doomsday? Anyways, other than that, we are once again back to "I need to save Lana because I still love her."

You know, why can't it just be "I need to save Lana because Lex will hurt her in the end." I could live with that. It would be a Superman-llike character then. I was bored last week with "Promise" and while this week was a little better I still found myself wishing I had spent more time playing Sims 2 instead.

[paulfiscot177]

i am so angry does any1 know where i can watch the episode just reading all ur thoughts on this episode makes me wanna watch it and im from the uk cant watch it on cwtv any ideas ppl? oh yeh am i aloud to talk about this if not im sorry

[Pandora24]

Did anyone think the episode went by way too fast? I blinked and it was over. I gave the episode a 7/10. It wasn't great, but I wasn't bored and I didn't leave with the need to beat Clark over the head.

The Good

I loved Clark not holding back in the fight scenes. It was awesome seeing him rip into someone who was a match for him. He was pissed at losing Lana and he needed to vent. What better way than to do that on Kane, who proved to be a decent match?

Clark's proactive attitude in this episode and him working with the JL. I didn't even mind his "Kal-El" attitude, and him trying to focus more on the fact that he's not human to block his pain from the Lex/Lana marriage. He was dealing with his emotions in a way that doesn't involve him moping and sitting around the house, and I'm all for that. :)

At the end, when Lana's sitting in the baby room with that blank/devastated look on her face. I thought that was good. That's the only scene in this episode where I actually felt sympathy for her loss.

Seeing Lois fight, yay Lois! Lois going to the scene in her tight red outfit seems to confuse some, but wasn't her cover that of a stripper whose car had broken down or something? So, her outfit wasn't that out of place...

As for taking Chloe's story...I honestly don't see it that. She was acting out her instincts as a reporter. She didn't go snooping in Chloe's computer (although I'm sure the thought crossed her mind). Instead, she got the information from the picture in the trash can (convenient though it was how she was able to figure things out) and ran with it. She didn't steal Chloe's notes or her story. She found a tip ( in the trashcan)and went for it. Sounds like a reporter to me. I don't see what Lois did as "stealing" Chloe's story, I see it as the first signs of Lois's reporter instincts coming out. How many times did Lois do the same thing for the Daily Planet in Lois & Clark? She's probably done it in the comics too. Lois isn't shy about treading the ethical line between getting the story and getting into someone else's business...most investigative reporters aren't.

The Not So Good

While I enjoyed seeing a good fight scene, and I enjoyed Clark going after the zoners and not moping over Lana, I do agree that his motivations were somewhat less heroic. I know Clark's doing a good thing by rounding up criminals and going after the phantom zoners, and I'm all for that, but he was taking out his anger on the meteor people. It kinda reminds me of the cop who has had a bad day and uses more force than necessary on the captured suspect. Sure, they are criminals, but that doesn't mean you can pound on them just to vent your anger. Notice how I said meteor freaks and not Kane. Kane totally needed a beat-down.

Lana's miscarriage--Eh. Whatever. The baby wasn't doing anything for the story other than giving Lex something to experiment on. So, I'm okay that it's gone. Up until this episode, Lana showed no motherly concerns about her baby. It was all about her conflicted emotions towards Clark and Lex. So, even though I really felt her emotions in that last scene with Lex, it would've had more impact if I had seen Lana's love for her child in previous episodes. Cuz seriously, I haven't seen it all.

Clark killing the zoner. I'm not going to spazz over the whole "but Superman doesn't kill" issue b/c I honestly believe that there are situations that require it. And, Superman has killed before in the comics when there's absolutely no other choice that Superman can see as someone else mentioned as well. Unfortunately, I don't think this episode was one of those times. If Clark was really all about accepting his destiny, he would be back at the FoS getting tips from Jor-El on how to get rid of the Zoners. So, I didn't really feel for his "conflict" about killing Kane. He really was just pissed off and trying to distract himself from recent events.


Finally, that little bit at the end where Clark is telling Martha he needs to find out how and why Lana chose Lex over him. Nope, I didn't like that at all. Loved how Martha told him to let her go, and I wish Clark had shown some sign that he would. Man, I hope he moves on. Go after the zoners, go after 33.1, go after Lex, but let Lana go. :p

[ozmette]

after the train wreck that was promise, i was looking forward to the action in this episode. what i did not enjoy about combat was the vindictive nature of clark's attacks on both the metor freaks and titan. we have been waiting for a long time for clark to wake up to the bigger picture of helping humanity and not just the folks in his own backyard. however, the fact that he is going after them now only because he is hurt and angry over the mess with lana cheapens him and reduces his actions to petty thugery. bringing criminals to justice is noble, beating them up and dumping them on the precinct door step is not. again it is the same flaw with the fight with titan. the set up for this confrontation has more to do with clark blowing off steam than with protecting the world from a vicious killer. knowing that he is unable to send titan back to the pz, knowing that he would have to kill this being should have caused internal conflict. in a conversation clark had with oliver he stated that he would never believe that the ends justify the means. again and again he has resisted killing for the greater good - most notably not killing lex in vessel and yet he gets his feelings hurt and all bars are off. where is our noble hero? the man who would have entered the fight with resolve and conviction knowing that there was no other way-no other recourse available to him. i wish martian manhunter had turned up in this episode - clark is in need of some guidance and direction.

[GrammarNazi]

The episode was OK. However, I'm becoming distraught over just how useless Annette O'Toole is becoming. Martha Kent has done nothing in recent episodes. I mean, nothing. Her character no longer has a purpose, and I hate that, because I love her as an actress. It's a shame.

[mlong187]

The one thing that I was beginning to really dislike about this show is that Clark is portrayed as a complete punk almost every time he goes up against a meteor freak or a phantom zone escapee. For example, in this episode he doesn't even win the fight. He gets lucky and Titan falls on his own spike (in an ENORMOUSLY improbable manner, I might add). I know the CW wants to keep this show family friendly to a degree, but this is getting ridiculous. When he was whining about having to kill Titan, it occurred to me that he did no such thing.

However, it was very nice to see Clark finally suck it up and throw himself into a fight. He seemed committed to winning, and that's something the character has been missing for a while.

Chloe being a meteor freak herself will go a LONG way towards explaining some of her deus ex machina moments. I liked that suggestion.

The Lexana scenes were almost entirely necessary. They develop Lex as being a complete villain. They also take away one of Lana's biggest rationalizations for staying with Lex. Now, she's only doing it for Clark's safety.

This is a bridge episode. I guess you could call it filler. But it's mainly the episode that pushes the last plot arc of the season. Clark stepping into his role as superhero. Lex growing into a villain. Lana growing away from Lex.

Overall, this episode gets a 7 from me.

[Silent Kal]

I liked the GA reference, and the quicker progression of the pregnancy storyline (getting it over with, really). And I thought the Clark-Titan fight sequence was pretty cool.

But I have to repeat the complaints listed by previous commenters. Lois is reduced to eye candy in this episode (so is Ashley--did she contribute ANYTHING to the story? REALLY? Anything that couldn't have been just as easily accomplished by a fully-clothed security guard?). Lois had a few good lines, and got in a few punches/kicks for the grrlpower crowd, but then she was down for the count. I don't know, it just hardly seemed like the empowering female portrayal people keep claiming her to be.

And Superman kills AGAIN. Ugh. I'm hardly a purist, but this bothers me. Sure, there are times when it is the only option, or when it might be justified, but there was no attempt at finding other alternatives. It was just Pissy Clark stepping up to kick some butt. And while this is a refreshing new direction for him, it still suffers from the fatality count.

Superman is supposed to be BETTER than the average, in terms of moral compass. He represents a leader, an example, an IDEAL. And Clark is STILL nowhere near that. The final few minutes of dialogue did make me hopeful for a moment. I thought, maybe, just maybe, he'll learn from this. Clark was talking about how killing makes him no better than Titan, and I was on board with the direction of his thinking--but then the conversation suddenly SWERVES back into Clana territory!!! Remorse? Who needs that?!? We've got the deliciously familiar smell of deep-fried CLANA WHINING.

I'm ready for Clark to be a hero--not just in the nifty stuff he can DO, but in the moral code that he LIVES by.

[Ginx]

Originally posted by Silent Kal

Lois is reduced to eye candy in this episode (so is Ashley--did she contribute ANYTHING to the story? REALLY? Anything that couldn't have been just as easily accomplished by a fully-clothed security guard?).

I'm ready for Clark to be a hero--not just in the nifty stuff he can DO, but in the moral code that he LIVES by.

I do have to agree that Ashley didn't really contribute anything and the dressing sequence by her could have been filled with Clark/Chloe or something more useful to the viewer storywise.

As I said in another thread. I'm happy that Clark is taking up some resposibilities, but he's got growning pains right now. This is how he begins not him at perfection. So Clark's working towards a middle ground.

At least he's been doing some good - getting the bad guys off the streets - his methods are a bit to question. But remember that Titan fell on his own blade so Clark didn't really kill him with his bare hands - he may have intended to....but I think the morals would have kicked in before the death blow.

I really enjoyed this episode - it did have some layers, depsite what some people are saying about it being nothing more than a filler with a fight scene in it.

[iluvsmallville1010]

Originally posted by Ginx


As I said in another thread. I'm happy that Clark is taking up some resposibilities, but he's got growning pains right now. This is how he begins not him at perfection. So Clark's working towards a middle ground.




I have to agree. We have to remember that while Clark is an adult now, he's still very young and he won't always say the smartest things that will make us happy all the time. We can't kill him for still being in love with Lana, because that's just how he feels. Clark's not totally matured as Superman yet. If he was, the show would be over. I thought that was the point of the whole series, was to see him slowly become more mature.

[bizarro77]

Horrible episode - the writers barely seem to care about continuity from week to week, and they definitely don't care about the overall continuity of the storyline. It wasn't too long ago when Clark said he felt guilty about releasing the "zoners" when he escaped, and vowed to round all of them up before going back to the Fortress to complete his training (Can anyone say Empire Strikes Back?). Then we had to watch 2 months of the love-triangle/insanity episodes. Now they return to the zoner stuff, and Clark thinks he has no choice but to kill since he doesn't know what else to do...which flies in the face of anyone who is actually a fan of Superman. If he were going to resort to that stupid conclusion, why not just burn a hole in Titan with heat vision and go home?

Terrible episode from a storyline perspective - an easy way out for the writers to string the show along. Who cares if the fight was good, really...watch UFC on Spike.

[owensj1]

I gave this episode a 10 for Clark & Lois character development and the special effects during the fight.

Clark:
For me the two scenes with Martha were key. Clark is finally thinking of himself as destined for something beyond Smallville.
Although it's true that last night his motivation seemed to be rage about the LexLana marriage that will pass. He will come to understand that he needs to be proactive against evil - that is his destiny.

His confusion about killing the Zoner is all part of his journey to this destiny. Hopefully Clark's angst will get him back to the Fortress of Solitude to figure out how to get these people back to the Phantom Zone. And TPTB conveniently had the Zoner die by accident so Clark will be able to rectify his conscious over the next few weeks.

I would have preferred that at the end of the fight he pulled one of those rings out of his pocket and sent the guy back to the phantom zone. The fight itself was terrific and I don't think that it is out of the realm of possibility that Clark would have to "weaken" an opponent before sending him/her back to the Zone.

I thought Tom was on fire last night. When they give him an actual story line he really steps up. His demeanor and expression in the scene when he caught the bullet were great. I also liked how he did not become an immediate sap/weakling when confronted with Lois in the fight ring. He stayed strong whereas in similar scenes in the past he usually deflates at that moment.

Lois:
It didn't bother me one bit that Lois snooped around Chloe's stuff for a story - she's Lois Lane that is what LL does. I also liked the fact that she used her sexuality to gain entrance into the fight club I found that a good 21st century update to her character. And finally the fact her impulsiveness through out the episode gets her into trouble that Clark must get her out of really moves the SV Lois towards the comic mythos. I loved it.

-- I really liked the fight scene. The effect they used when Titan flew through the air and landed on the concrete was great. You could feel the quake.

The Lex-Lana story:
It was O.K. I was half expecting the final shot before the credits to be a baby in an incubator in some undisclosed location. As someone pointed out earlier Lana sitting in the nursery was a nice parallel with Lillian Luthor. I hope as long a Lana is Mrs. Luthor she stays as evil as possible for her character. I think KK does a great job as 'bad Lana'.

[man of steel37013]

Bizzarro77 should be banned from this site for that ridiculous comment he made about the episode. this was the best one yet and the best fight scene by far. by the way this is kryptonsite not Spike tv or the ufc,if you wanna talk reality go to those sites this is fiction. GET A LIFE!!!!!

[lillie_poo_pod]

Originally posted by man of steel37013
Bizzarro77 should be banned from this site for that ridiculous comment he made about the episode. this was the best one yet and the best fight scene by far. by the way this is kryptonsite not Spike tv or the ufc,if you wanna talk reality go to those sites this is fiction. GET A LIFE!!!!!


Y should he get banned for stating his OPINION! I didn't think the episode was that good and certainly not the best one of the season. I think that goes to "Freak". But anywayz, I gave this episode a 6. Should I get banned too? The fight scene was good but it's not the whole episode.

[man of steel37013]

No he should not be banned for stating his OPINION but there is no need to be dogging everything from the writers to the show. those people spend hour upon hour trying to come up with a great storyline for us to enjoy. im sure he has no idea how tough it us to come up with 22 different storylines for the last six years. and he was comparing a set up tv fight to the UFC i mean come on was that really necessary? i love smallville and everyone else who does will feel bad once there thursday nights are left with nothing to watch so enjoy it while it lasts and if not keep your negativity to yourself!!!

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by newfamfan
Lana is Clark's connection to humanity. He was more Kal-el in this episode than ever because he was trying to dehumanize himself due to the loss of Lana.

That was just a coping mechanism. But I am all for it. He has desperately tried to be "human" for so long. I'm hoping he continues to explore identifying himself as "Kal El." That is who Superman is. Even if he has to go to the extreme for awhile, I am hopeful that Clark will feel out this new identity for awhile. The key to becoming his future self is figuring out how to be both Clark Kent and Kal El. But in order to get there, he has to be Kal El too, and not just Clark. It's cool with me if the pendulum swings too far before it settles in the middle. I hope this is where TPTB are going with this.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Lois: Oh how I missed my precious! Loved her. She had pretty believable cover story, and when she picked up on Athena's lesbian vibe she ran with it and then when she got caught she kicked her @ss!

""Just for your information, my Daddy IS proud of me . . .kitten.""

Then she wanted Clark to just punch her hard enough to be believable so they could then both collaborate on an escape. There is some lingering awkwardness from Crimson here and I enjoy any continuity.

When Clark looked like he was going to die Lois went after Titan, already knowing there was a high likely hood of her being killed. I don't care what any one says, she's the 'woman of steel' to Clark's 'man of steel' for sure.

I liked how Clark was out there trying to make a difference by delivering criminals into the hands of justice, but a little upset that he was ready to just kill someone. Not OVERLY upset because Titan was a murderer and Martha was right when she said the fact that Clark felt remorse over such things was what made him different from Titan, that which makes him human.

Where was that wise Martha in Promise?

However there wasn't much in the way of characterizations, but then with an episode focusing on a fighting ring I didn't expect there to be.

I agree that the episode seemed to go by WAY too fast. Too many damn commericals.

I loved that Maddox guy though, for an unimportant guest star he did very well in the role. Playing the nervous doctor and then giving a turn around as an excited promoter when he realised Clark was ready for the ring. He made me think of Doc 'Scarecrow' Crane from the Batman movie-verse for some reason and I though HE was VERY kewl.

So this episode wasn't that bad, but it just seemed to be a little too . . . plain. It had good fight scenes (with Lois/Athena and then Clark/Titan) but the music intruded on that. The worst part of this episode was assuredly the music. It was glaring, loud, annoying and intrusive.

[Timester]

Originally posted by man of steel37013
No he should not be banned for stating his OPINION but there is no need to be dogging everything from the writers to the show. those people spend hour upon hour trying to come up with a great storyline for us to enjoy. im sure he has no idea how tough it us to come up with 22 different storylines for the last six years. and he was comparing a set up tv fight to the UFC i mean come on was that really necessary? i love smallville and everyone else who does will feel bad once there thursday nights are left with nothing to watch so enjoy it while it lasts and if not keep your negativity to yourself!!!

Why people don't read the rules?...

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[Fly by guy]

I gave it a ONE,1, UNO, and I think for me that says enough.

[smallvillechic]

i really like this epi because clark shows his angry side by kicking the zoners butt. i relly liked seeing him beat the zoner up it was a side of clark that i've never seen

i iked ti alot

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

After this episode ended, my wife and I turned to each other and said, "that's it? "

[chlarkfan333]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
After this episode ended, my wife and I turned to each other and said, "that's it? "

I hope you were referencing the episode?;) :lol:

[Bosrudorfer]

My vote... hmmm seeing as I didnt watch it from still being pissed off about the crap known as "Promise"... I couldn't vote until I see it on Youtube or something

[smallvilleobsessor17]

I did not like this epi at all. I thought it was terrible. You could definitely tell Combat was a filler epi, and I really hate when filler epis are as bad and pointless as Combat was.

[monel49]

Great episode! Could have been very weak with the wrestling schtick, but instead gave a great insight into Clark's anger managment skills!

Anybody else getting tired of all the badmouthing of Smallville each episode by some folks on the board? Those that hate it so much continue to watch. Methinks they protest too much!

[SpinkyMuffler]

I voted 8. Thought it was really well acted. Tom Welling was excellent as was Erica. Last weeks (Promise) felt too rushed.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Originally posted by monel49
Great episode! Could have been very weak with the wrestling schtick, but instead gave a great insight into Clark's anger managment skills!

Anybody else getting tired of all the badmouthing of Smallville each episode by some folks on the board? Those that hate it so much continue to watch. Methinks they protest too much!

Oh my poor pride. :rolleyes:

[msleggie]

This episode was pretty good, it had it's moments. But I still have it a 7, only b/c filler episodes usually aren't meant for much more than a filler.

[samanta]

I'm minor here but I find this episode boring. Regardless on fight scenes and Lois in B. Spears outfit - and I didn't care much about either - there was nothing.

[CLANA the GREAT]

The episode was pretty boring. The only interesting part was the lana-related one. The plot was huhhhhh....dull.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

^^Yup. Nothing remotely interesting in the whole epi.

[samanta]

Yes only good part was about Lana's baby. Now it sounds bad. KK shows in this episode that she is good actor. I think she was even better than in Promise.

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by Kryptonian-Ronin
After this episode ended, my wife and I turned to each other and said, "that's it? "

I like this comment. I really enjoyed the show but something was clearly lacking. They could have had interaction between an injured Lois and Clark, or something with Chloe. They really missed an opportunity here and the teaser was a waste of time, since it replayed.

I guess I need more dialogue as well. Something to get excited about. I gave it an 8.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

I think her acting was best during Promise. In last night's epi, it wasn't as good, especially her crying scene. I thought Combat was going to be better than it actually was, so I ended up voting a 4.


Originally posted by samanta
Yes only good part was about Lana's baby. Now it sounds bad. KK shows in this episode that she is good actor. I think she was even better than in Promise.

[Ania]

10/10. Clark going out and working for Oliver. Lois investigating undercover. A real fight, darn! Such a nice change to see aliens on an alien show as oppossed to soap opera.

[Fly by guy]

Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
I did not like this epi at all. I thought it was terrible. You could definitely tell Combat was a filler epi, and I really hate when filler epis are as bad and pointless as Combat was.

I rate your review with 4 Stars. A big Thumps UP.:D
The episode was dismal.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Thanks! :) I'm glad more people agree. The only good filler epi I've ever seen is last season when Mercy aired. Now that's an epi that kept me on the edge of my seat.

[jonatankent]

freaking awsome!:D:D

[GaidinDre]

I gave it an 8. It was nice to finally get back to some of the important stuff, a much needed break from the Clexana triangle. My only serious complaint would have to be the music. It was too loud in some scenes and generally distracting.

[DeesRyche]

7 out of 10 as it showed that Lana would be given a jail out of free card from Clark if something interefered.

I am just sick of it....

I think I will interject a comment from Jor-el...fate/destiny has a away of balancing itself so no matter what these two try (secrets and lies or no secrets and lies) it isn't gonna work.

Move on already. Great action, though!

[wilder]

I vote 8
1) Lois is back
2) Combat was pretty good
3) Tough Clark

I only regret that Clark and Lois dont talk about combat in that episode. I hope next time she thinh before she hit Clark ;D

[samanta]

Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
I think her acting was best during Promise. In last night's epi, it wasn't as good, especially her crying scene. I thought Combat was going to be better than it actually was, so I ended up voting a 4.
I like her more in Combat. Maybe I was feeling bad for her more than in Promise.

[jor-eldeux]

The prosecutor rises to give his closing - Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury - once again the criminals have perpetrated another assault on the Superman mythos. Once again they have trashed his future love and removed her from her high and lofty position and character. Once again they have reduced the man of steel to a mere human. (Did anybody catch Martha's remark - that's being human) I have throughout this trial submitted to you that these criminals have sought and continue to seek to destroy the Superman mythos. They are attempting to get the viewers to hold out for maybe just maybe Clark and Lana get together one more time. Maybe Lex will change. Making Superman human - losing the character and nobility - is the goal of this show. It happened in the last movie and it is a regular occurance on this production. Ladies and gentlemen you can only return one verdict - guilty. That verdict may indeed stop this madness and return us to the defense of truth, justice and the (previous to the current situation) American way. Thank you.

[Welling_is_pretty]

I had extremely low expectations for this episode.
I loathe anything to do with wrestling and was not pleased.

Yet this is one of the best Smallville episodes in a while. Action, Clark fighting like Superman, Lois actually being cool and not annoying, Lex being bigtimescaryevil, Lana actually evoking human emotions and Chloe being her usual cool self.

I had 3 problems with the episode:
1.) Martha Kent. Once again she flip flops on what she is telling her son. Did she or did she not, one episode ago, tell Clark to fight for Lana? And now, once again she's telling him to let it go? Make. Up. Your. Mind.
2.) Clark wanting to kill and almost doing so. Um, what?
3.) The Clana. Enough!!! (that's all I have to say about that.)


But otherwise it was a wonderful episode that more than surpassed my expectations.

And once again, just when I thought I was going to give SV up for good they pull out a good one.

[Loislvesclark]

I thought this episode had it's good points. I was very happy to see Lois back, even though it seemed like she was barely in the episode.

I actually think that it makes Clark seem more noble to know that he has human emotions and frailties. That makes what he stands for all the more impressive. That he is able to maintain such high standards, etc, even though he has learned how to be human in some ways.

I thought the Clark saying he wanted to kill thing was weird. It just didn't seem right, and I was seriously sick of the enduring Clana longing/references. PLEASE end it!

Also, Lois punched him in the stomach. I understand that it's like punching a steel wall, but doesn't he normally move somehow so it doesn't hurt the person hitting him so much (like when he played football). It seemed like she was in some serious pain.

Overall, it wasn't to bad, but I expected better.

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by Loislvesclark
Also, Lois punched him in the stomach. I understand that it's like punching a steel wall, but doesn't he normally move somehow so it doesn't hurt the person hitting him so much (like when he played football). It seemed like she was in some serious pain.
I thought the same thing. She slapped him like 5 episodes ago. What happened?


Overall, it wasn't to bad, but I expected better.
That was my reaction to the episode too. It was better than the last pro wrestler episode, and it had the best Clark/Zoner fight scene, but it could have been so much better.

[Son of Kal-El20]

WOW!!! Superman/Clark can fight!? Who knew? And hear I thought he was going to be like the Lameman in the Superman movies and not fight back. Instead, he fought like a real Superman!!!

The episode was average though. But i'm still amazed that they actually had Superman/Clark fight. It's amazing. I wish they could do that in the films( instead of having Superman cry like a girl all the time when he gets into a fight).

The fight gets a 10/10( why couldn't se get this in Zod!?). But the episode gets a 7/10.

[Mw511]

The fight was amazing!!! He fights!!! :O He can do better! But it was so cool...!!! =)

[tranqq]

i wasn't a big fan of the fight myself. I know this is a tv show and all but he's SUPERMAN. clark has super speed yet everytime he fights it's like the turtle and the hare, and clarks the turtle. It would be nice for clark so show some superiority every once in a while.

ALSO. i'm getting super tired of hearing clark whining about not being human. it seems like every episode he talks to his mom and she says something about being human or human emotions etc, then clark makes some predictable comment about him not being human and walks away angry. EVERY EPISODE!

[Waylan37]

Didn't like it. It seems to me that the new station is using one of its' staple shows (Smallville) to pimp its' decision to carry WWE programming. This is now the second WWE "Star" to appearon the show since the new network took over, and if there is a third I think I might vomit.

Ironically the fight scene looked exactly like a bad WWE match as well ...

Which leads to ... writing inconsistencies. Why, exactly, would a character like Titan have to throw a choke slam on a guyif he is strong enough to make Clark bleed? And, if he is that strong, how could he punch that first guy multiple times without the dude becoming an instant splatter.

It wasn't as annoying as a kid melting meteorite that survived the heat of Earth entry over a normal campfire to make "krypto-bullets", but it was close.

[tranqq]

Originally posted by Waylan37
Didn't like it. It seems to me that the new station is using one of its' staple shows (Smallville) to pimp its' decision to carry WWE programming. This is now the second WWE "Star" to appearon the show since the new network took over, and if there is a third I think I might vomit.

Ironically the fight scene looked exactly like a bad WWE match as well ...

Which leads to ... writing inconsistencies. Why, exactly, would a character like Titan have to throw a choke slam on a guyif he is strong enough to make Clark bleed? And, if he is that strong, how could he punch that first guy multiple times without the dude becoming an instant splatter.

It wasn't as annoying as a kid melting meteorite that survived the heat of Earth entry over a normal campfire to make "krypto-bullets", but it was close.



so true, hahaha. If they bring on macho man randy savage it will be the greatest smallville episode to date. search some macho man videos on youtube.

[dakotablacky]

I gave it a 7. The fight scene was a big step up from previous fights on Smallville. That picture that Lex burned in the end looked like a kid that was ready to be born, and I don't remember Lana looking too pregnant? And the whole Marthe flip-flopping is kind of annoying, but she wanted him to fight before Lana made her final decision to be married, but after she went through with it she thought he should move on, since it seemed pretty clear that Lana had. As for Lois she looked stupid hot, I'm just mad tha Hef didn't put Erica in Playboy along with Ashley, maybe doing a little nude fighting, on that thought I gotta go.

[Imzadia]

COMBAT was an AWESOME episode from start to finish!!! I gave it a 10! The whole episode was only 40 minutes long...WAY TOO SHORT!! I wanted MORE! I didn't know what to expect since all of the previews I'd seen showed Clark getting his @$$ kicked. I knew it HAD to have some surprises, though...And I was not disappointed. The emotions were high, especially Clark's. Finally, we got to see a taste of the Real Power of the Superman he becomes. Of course, this is only MHO, but The Man of Steel rocked the house. : D! ---AND---It was so-o-o cool :cool: to watch Lois as "Vixen" take Ashley down expertly. WOW! :eek: She always talked 'big' & 'tough', but we'd only seen a small bit of what she could really do. I was thrilled. I, also, agree that Lex is now totally EVIL. There's no redemption for him now. I feel so sorry for Lana. She really thought that she knew what she was 'playing' with as far as Lex's duplicity was concerned. She's allowed herself to be 'so used'. I can hardly wait to see what ACTUALLY happens next. :\ :D


Originally posted by Waylan37
Didn't like it. It seems to me that the new station is using one of its' staple shows (Smallville) to pimp its' decision to carry WWE programming. This is now the second WWE "Star" to appearon the show since the new network took over, and if there is a third I think I might vomit.

Ironically the fight scene looked exactly like a bad WWE match as well ...

Which leads to ... writing inconsistencies. Why, exactly, would a character like Titan have to throw a choke slam on a guyif he is strong enough to make Clark bleed? And, if he is that strong, how could he punch that first guy multiple times without the dude becoming an instant splatter.

It wasn't as annoying as a kid melting meteorite that survived the heat of Earth entry over a normal campfire to make "krypto-bullets", but it was close.

:) Waylan, I want to call you "Cher", and I mean it, because I'm from south Louisiana and I 'feel' for you. You are doing what I've done so many times with movies/TV shows I watched in this Genre...SciFi/Fantasy. I 'used to' over analyze the work...performance...info. given, etc. Don't do that. It will ruin it for you everytime. You are trying to compare what you see in the story with REALITY. I agree, they should be more careful and realize that most of us are not idiots, so a little research would be appreciated by those of us who catch those slips of scientific accuracy. [I think it's ridiculous to even speak of other galaxies when the one we live in is plenty huge enough to explore and learn about...and they talked about having knowledge from the 28 'known' galaxies. There are some hurdles my imagination can't jump.] So, I had to lighten up. YOU have to lighten up, if you want to enjoy programs such as Smallville. ;) Just a suggestion...:p

[Cloisfantastic]

Did anyone else like Maddox a bit? I thought he was funny in a bit twisted kind of way :p

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Cloisfantastic
Did anyone else like Maddox a bit? I thought he was funny in a bit twisted kind of way :p
He was the best part about the epi, IMO... The actor was excellent.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by Cloisfantastic
Did anyone else like Maddox a bit? I thought he was funny in a bit twisted kind of way :p


Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
He was the best part about the epi, IMO... The actor was excellent. i agree he was an excellent actor, i did like his twistdness... but i wouldn't say he was the best part of the epi.
ILWC i thought u would have been drooling over Athena in that "schoolgirl" outfit in the intro... i guess it just wasn't the same, being it wasn't Chloe. :\

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by Khyla
ILWC i thought u would have been drooling over Athena in that "schoolgirl" outfit in the intro... i guess it just wasn't the same, being it wasn't Chloe. :\
OK, that might sound wrong, but all my drool belongs to Chloe.
:o

[Khyla]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
OK, that might sound wrong, but all my drool belongs to Chloe.
:o aww, that's so sweet! :)



Originally posted by GaidinDre
It was nice to finally get back to some of the important stuff, a much needed break from the Clexana triangle. My only serious complaint would have to be the music. It was too loud in some scenes and generally distracting. i agree. and I thought the music problem was my TV... I even missed some of the dialogue because it was drowned out to me.

[wilder]

Don't even mantion about Clana. It was good in first, and second season. Maybe third too. Clark only waste time and energy for her. Better if he will be the though Clark like in "Combat"

[thmallville]

I gave it a 4 just because Lana miscarrying the baby was hilarious. No one actually passes out!!

[CallMeClark]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
OK, that might sound wrong, but all my drool belongs to Chloe.
:o
*nods* I also prefer Schoolgirl Chloe. My drool as well!

[m1l9c9h0w]

Solid episode. A well-deserved 9/10. The whole Lana-baby and the Lois using FLASH on her camera thing peeved me off a bit, but otherwise an awesome episode!!

[Greyfox]

Originally posted by Cloisfantastic
Did anyone else like Maddox a bit? I thought he was funny in a bit twisted kind of way :p

i thought he was pretty cool, very reminiscent of the wrestling anouncer in Spiderman (played by bruce campbell). He even gives Clark the name Man of Steel, like Campbell comes up with the name Spiderman.

I thought it was a good episode, even if it did all revolve around and work up to the big fight, and even then it tied in with the seasons main plot of doing away with the phantoms, and lana losing the baby.

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by smvlladdict
I loved it!! Superman never kills, but Clark does!!! I guess Clark was'nt the only one who had a secret identity!! Maddox the fight promoter was cool to watch. What a scuz!! Great writing!! Finally Clark working out his anger!! Lex is truly evil. What happened to Athena I wanted to see her fight!!

and oh Martha Flip-flopping again!!! Make up your mind!! Everybody knows when you have conflict your supposed to work it out by talking not by fighting, but Clark is only a teenager! Remember!!

Lana, Lana, Lana, You knoww you love Clark Just go get him and F*** everyone else!!!

well, she is a politician.....

[sphrkilo]

Originally posted by Waylan37
Didn't like it. It seems to me that the new station is using one of its' staple shows (Smallville) to pimp its' decision to carry WWE programming. This is now the second WWE "Star" to appearon the show since the new network took over, and if there is a third I think I might vomit.

Ironically the fight scene looked exactly like a bad WWE match as well ...

Which leads to ... writing inconsistencies. Why, exactly, would a character like Titan have to throw a choke slam on a guyif he is strong enough to make Clark bleed? And, if he is that strong, how could he punch that first guy multiple times without the dude becoming an instant splatter.

It wasn't as annoying as a kid melting meteorite that survived the heat of Earth entry over a normal campfire to make "krypto-bullets", but it was close.

I think you should have already vomited since the epie had two WWE stars, which would make it the second and third, but I digress. I'm not sure what happened in the beginning because people in my house haven't learned how to talk quietly, but I enjoyed it overall. Not my favorite, but I thought the fight scene with Titan and Clark was awesome. Definitely the best they've had on the show so far. The miscarriage was highly predictable, and even though the whole baby storyline is crap, I'm curious as to what exactly Lex did. Not too curious, however. I gave it a seven, and I'm hoping the last round of episodes won't decrease in value.

[777Flash]

Gave it a 7. It was ok. The whole Zoner thread is way under used and badly written. The season finale is working up to a zoner ep and there is hardly any sci-fi with these stories. Very disappointing. Think they could have done some more with the fight scene like have Clark heal real fast. And say something like "You punch like Lois!" BTW Clark, use the crystal!!!
I'll bet the baby isn't dead. He's probably a meteor-tyke which explains Lex's dream. I'll bet lex can't even have kids.
:\

[ladylore]

I enjoyed this episode. Not as much as Promise - but it was a good episode. It was much better than I expected it would be - I gave it a 7.

I enjoyed seeing Clark strong and angry - his fight scenes were great. The interaction between Lex and Lana was also entertaining - Lana is really being put through the emotional ringer. It would have been nice however to have a bit more of a clue as to what was the deal with the baby in the first place. I wasn't sure if I should feel sad for Lex right now or be angry with him.

My only complaint was with Lois. The writers had a great chance to show some physical contact between Lois and Clark (she could have jumped on him in attack and landed on top of them in a sensual position, for example) and then he could have "gently" knocked her out. Something to increase the supposed tension between the two of them. But instead, it felt as though she could have just as well not have been on the show.

[skywalker28]

If I could've given this higher than a 10, I would've. That fight with Titan was fantastic! It kind of reminded me of a JLU episode where Superman fought Darkseid and unleashed a superpunch on him. Needless to say, it is nice to see that Clark has finally grown a set and now realizes that it is ok to punch bad superhumans. I'd like to see a few more episodes like this one before series end :D

[vikihill96]

My vote for "Combat" is 10 of course.Titan(Kane) was great-"Time to die Kal-El".And the scene between Ashley and Erica....brillirant,absolutely brilliant.

[wilder]

Originally posted by skywalker28
If I could've given this higher than a 10, I would've. That fight with Titan was fantastic!

I agree, fight was fantastic and i could give more than 10, but the rest of episode wasn't that good.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I found it Sub-par.
Simply a filler in which the only progession was the "loss" of Lana's "baby".
Which was very tasteless, but foreseeable.

All in all, just a simple "action" episode the served to highlight Lois in red vinyl, Ashley in cleavage and kilt, Clark's pathetic lack of fighting skills and the sad display of what Lex Luthor has become.

[superpal1]

Gave it a nine. I liked the episode. Maddox was a good character. I liked how he switched from doctor to crazy promoter in an instant. Clark was great and the fight was decent. My only complaint was the Lois arc was not needed and she was misused this week. I really like Lois, but she could have been dropped from this eps. Lex is definitely gone from being saved, but I bet they attempt a saving when him and Clark are trapped in the cave.

[Mr. Wrong]

I am shocked to see the blaise response to Combat. I thought it was superb on most levels. Finally CK acting like Superman and not being a confused teenager. Maddox made the most of his brief stint. Nothing wrong with using wrestlers as adversaries for the Man of Steel no matter which network is doing it. Didn't anyone else see Lex get Lana to drink the apple cider and then pretend to drink it himself? Obviously this was all a devious plot of his. You must have noticed the fact that only Lana was truly broken up by the baby's "loss". You have to know that Lex would have been beside himself if "his" baby had died! Finally we have Martha behaving like Martha again in this episode. Lois was great in this episode. That is exactly how she would behave. The only thing that put me off a bit was CK's longing to find out what went amiss with Clana. I'm getting tired of him always wearing his heart on his sleeve. That is why I am only giving Combat a 9/10

[blackcelebration]

P.S My 100th Post whoppee for me!!!!

COMBAT

Following just after the Lexana wedding Clark is still disgruntled because of Lana being with Lex & when Chloe discovers an underground fightclub that pits a powerful Zoner Titan (Kane) against Meteor Freaks Clark decides to take out his frustrations on the Zoner!!!

THE GOOD

The return of Lois Lane. The more I watch her the more I like her. OK she isn't perfect & not quite Iconic Lois Lane yet but at least her actions are the most consistant & in character compared to other Smallville characters (Promise anyone???).

Clark deciding to finally deal with the Phantoms. Something he said he'd do before all this silly Clexana mess happened. Hopefully this will teach him that there are far more important things then Lana... but wait what happens at the end...?

Finally a cool fight scene & Clark kicking butt instead of just standing there or someone else defeat the bad guy for him (Static anyone...?).

THE BAD

Is it me or has Chloe's character been slowly going downhill since Justice...? The way she treated her Cousin... who she lives with & probably pays most of the rent at the place she lives with was IMO horrible... (Especially after that you should try & rescue Lana fricas from Promise).

Some things on Lana losing the baby weren't clear. Like was Lex drugging her when he gave her the drink because of the supposedly scary music that was played during their toast. I am guessing it was as Lana loses the baby soon after but not for the music I wouldn't have had a clue.

THE UGLY

Clark moping at the end over Lana was just annoying... Please let the girl go!!!

Also why didn't Clark get rid of the body...?

And why does Clark think he has to kill the Zoner's when he can ask Jor-El how the hell he managed to get them in there to begin with...? (And I've watched that episode when Raya dies & yes I am nearly 100% sure the fortress has been restord).

I said it during Promise & I'll say it again... LANA IS NOT A VICTIM!!! Sorry TPTB but she made all the decisions by herself I am feeling nothing for her ok maybe pity but I don't think she is 100% blameless & if TPTB are trying to convince me that everything that's happening to Lana is all of Lex's fault well sorry it ain't gonna happen!!!

FINAL SAY & GRADE

Solid episode... Cool fight scenes... Lois was great... Characters in Character this week (Phew!!!)... But Clark please please get over Lana!!!

6.5/10

[Sweetie]

Really good episode.I gave a 9.I wish they could have cut this eppy in half and have break from Lexana...They could have gone on honeymoon somewhere.This episode should been a Clark's episode only,showing Clark & Lois investigated together,a longer fight.The fight was great though and I whish we could seen more...On the next episode,would have been Lexana's storyline,we could have learn more about Lex's motives,what happened to the baby ect.

[RedKRules]

Love it !! 9 :lol:

[Welling_is_pretty]

Originally posted by blackcelebration
P.S My 100th Post whoppee for me!!!!

But Clark please please get over Lana!!!
Congratulations!

And you said it, friend!

[Ginx]

Originally posted by blackcelebration
Finally a cool fight scene & Clark kicking butt instead of just standing there or someone else defeat the bad guy for him (Static anyone...?).

I am guessing it was as Lana loses the baby soon after but not for the music I wouldn't have had a clue.

Clark moping at the end over Lana was just annoying... Please let the girl go!!!



LOL - I agree - finally a cool fight scene and not just watching something happen - he was taking action.

It's not clear about what Lex did to Lana....yet.....I'm guessin' that the cider was spiked, she lost the baby, and it's now growing in a test tube somewhere.

I also found the moping Clark at the end a bit....annoying.....but hey, sometimes love hurts and you can't wear a smile all the time. But I agree - sure he loved Lana....but it's time to let go. If she flys back to him - great if not great also.....either way just move it along........please.:p

[Mr. Wrong]

Originally posted by Ginx
LOL - I agree - finally a cool fight scene and not just watching something happen - he was taking action.

It's not clear about what Lex did to Lana....yet.....I'm guessin' that the cider was spiked, she lost the baby, and it's now growing in a test tube somewhere.

I also found the moping Clark at the end a bit....annoying.....but hey, sometimes love hurts and you can't wear a smile all the time. But I agree - sure he loved Lana....but it's time to let go. If she flys back to him - great if not great also.....either way just move it along........please.:p


I fully concur. CK ends the epi. with his heart back on his sleeve. This is a bit much. CK has had far to centered an upbringing to allow him to keep pining after another man's wife.

[Hahaveryfunny]

Loved angry Clark! So sexy!

Poor Lana, NOT! She's getting what she deserves.

Lex, is offically evil.

[Mr. Wrong]

Not entirely fair to be critical of Lana. She virtually begged CK to come clean with her back when Lex first asked her to marry him. All CK would say was that he wished her and Lex all of the best. Then plays spoiler in each epi afterward. She had really not done anything untowards CK to deserve having her heart toyed with in the fashion that it has. She isn't entirely guiltless but she has been completely shafted in the love department.

[redkrypclark]

i just saw the trailer for nemesis and all of a sudden i do not mind waiting for the episode any more it looks great. clark and lex look to have a real deep heart to heart and the only quote they give us from the scene is "your the only real friend i ever had and somewhere along the way you saw me as your nemesis." and then lex leaves clark with boulders on top of him. they have a scene where lana has her hand going across clarks chest feeling up those steel abs and then huggin lex(tramp lol). then at the end of the trailer clark gives the line" the war is about to begin" YEAH man show me a little more of that clark that beat the crap out of titan. just go all out this whole time no holding back. not to mention there is suppose to be a serious conversation between martha and lionel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN7We69iZpc

this is a url on youtube to an extended version. one scene has lana playing with a pistol and then pulling it on someone. lol guess she is goin bad@$$ too nowadays. they also showed an extended version of the clark and lana scene and it appears the only reason she leaves clark is because lex was about 10 feet away watching her embrace clark. lol poor q tip maybe if he had hair she would feel the same way about him.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Lex has always had his version of "reality" and in it, HE is always the "victim" or the "hero".

[Paint the K]

The opening sequence had some of the worst acting I've ever seen on any TV show. It was cringe-inducingly bad.

[redkrypclark]

man it has only been like a day or two im not sure if i can wait till april 17 i want to watch that episode now.

[Nam-Ek2]

truely awesome ep

best this season so far

[Ginx]

Originally posted by redkrypclark
i just saw the trailer for nemesis and all of a sudden i do not mind waiting for the episode any more it looks great. clark and lex look to have a real deep heart to heart and the only quote they give us from the scene is "your the only real friend i ever had and somewhere along the way you saw me as your nemesis."

lol poor q tip maybe if he had hair she would feel the same way about him.


LMAO - R U referring to Lex as q-tip hahahahahahahhaa.....

I agree - the next episodes look good - I hope they at least re-run some of the good episodes that might tie-into Nemesis.

[redk_lex16]

The only good thing about this epsode was that it had Clark back on track (hunting down the phantom zoners). The idea that Clark enjoys killing the zoner is preposterous! He is Superman! If he were on Red-K, you could forgive him, and it would have been appropriate, but he was not! That is NOT Clark! I was also looking forward to leaving the clark-lana-lex triangle, but it was back at the very beginning of the episode! Lana and Clark are not meant for eachother, they never were. They should just get over it. They are deviating from Superman mythology almost irreversably. They have to veer back, or many die-hard fans will be furious and stop watching.

[enamored]

Originally posted by redk_lex16
The only good thing about this epsode was that it had Clark back on track (hunting down the phantom zoners). The idea that Clark enjoys killing the zoner is preposterous! He is Superman! If he were on Red-K, you could forgive him, and it would have been appropriate, but he was not! That is NOT Clark! I was also looking forward to leaving the clark-lana-lex triangle, but it was back at the very beginning of the episode! Lana and Clark are not meant for eachother, they never were. They should just get over it. They are deviating from Superman mythology almost irreversably. They have to veer back, or many die-hard fans will be furious and stop watching.

I guess I had a totally different outlook on this episode than you did. Clark clearly stated when speaking about killing Titan that he had terrible remorse over killing someone. However, he also states that since he has no way of returning the evil "Zoners" to the phantom zone, and he can't let them run amok killing humans, he has no choice but to eliminate them. His mom even commented that his remorse shows how "human" and good he is. I saw no enjoyment in his killing.

Also, knowing what you know about Lex and what Clark knows about Lex how can you expect Clark to just accept that Lana has married Lex, especially when he's certain she's lying about having had a change of heart. This is the girl he has loved since he was 5 and although we know he is not fated to be with Lana, Clark does not know that. He has always tried to protect Lana and is still trying to do that.

I do agree that they have dragged this Lana thing on long enough but in the context of the story as they are delivering it, Clark is acting the way he should act.

[redkrypclark]

i agree with they way they have dragged this on it would only be fitting if they were suppose to end up together ,but they are not so they should have moved on. even though i like lana more than lois especially the one from the old reeves movies what the hell did he seen in her. her teeth were nasty and she was just ugly i think he really needed those glasses thickened.

[clanaalltheway]

8 out of ten!! i liked the episode but i still dont get why lois went to the hanger with that riduculous outifit.

[tippership commander]

I wonder :confused: What this episode means, showing clark standing up to titan, using nothing but his strength....he could have used his heat vision, or super breath, or his infamous speed, but he didn't ....i don't think he enjoyed having to defeat Titan, but ntil he finds a way to put them back into the phantom ozne, he can at least hone his skills, such as his strength, and whatever else may be needed to stop zoners....i am personally bit pissed he didn't use his speed, :mad: but oh well, ...he should be practicing for the next itme he runs into Bart, maybe then he'd be more used into tapping into his full power....he took that "Cough""chokeslam""cough:: pretty well :cool: WHen Lois tried to punch him , and nearly broke her fist, HAHAHa, that was Rich:rotfl: :rotfl: :lol:

[Chrisluvstommy]

I really liked this episode the fight scene between Clark and Titan was awesome..:eek: :eek: but my biggest disapointment with it was the missed opportunity of some great Clois moments but over all great show

[Imzadia]

Originally posted by enamored
I guess I had a totally different outlook on this episode than you did. Clark clearly stated when speaking about killing Titan that he had terrible remorse over killing someone. However, he also states that since he has no way of returning the evil "Zoners" to the phantom zone, and he can't let them run amok killing humans, he has no choice but to eliminate them. His mom even commented that his remorse shows how "human" and good he is. I saw no enjoyment in his killing.

Also, knowing what you know about Lex and what Clark knows about Lex how can you expect Clark to just accept that Lana has married Lex, especially when he's certain she's lying about having had a change of heart. This is the girl he has loved since he was 5 and although we know he is not fated to be with Lana, Clark does not know that. He has always tried to protect Lana and is still trying to do that.


I do agree that they have dragged this Lana thing on long enough but in the context of the story as they are delivering it, Clark is acting the way he should act.

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. We perceive this ongoing storyline the same way, Same outlook. Also, what I think about the way Clark is acting is that he is acting a lot like many of us act when greiving a loss. I'm sure you'll also agree with me and observed, as Martha pointed out to him, he is ANGRY. With his extreme power, it's hard for him to find ways to release those strong feelings without wallowing in his depression or lashing out at others who aren't really who he wants to target. If he became destructive in his rage, losing his control, there'd be a lot of death and broken things before he realized what he was doing. Fighting Titan in sort of a hand-to-hand combat manner was probably more satisfying to him than simply using his other abilities. Titan could take whatever he could dish out and allow him to vent some of his anger. Titan was the dummy who didn't retract that boney spike after he was hit that last time. It was an accident. If he hadn't stabbed himself, I think he and Clark would've fought until one of them was overcome somehow. Maybe then Clark would've used his other abilities to get an advantage take him down. I think he wanted to feel some other type of pain to help him forget about the pain and frustration he's carrying in his heart over Lana. He is still young, afterall, and struggling to get over his first love. To me "Combat" was a lot more complicated than it seems if you think about all that has happened before now. I thought it was right on target...a real good episode.


Originally posted by tippership commander
[B]I wonder :confused: What this episode means, showing clark standing up to titan, using nothing but his strength....he could have used his heat vision, or super breath, or his infamous speed, but he didn't ....i don't think he enjoyed having to defeat Titan, but ntil he finds a way to put them back into the phantom ozne, he can at least hone his skills, such as his strength, and whatever else may be needed to stop zoners....i am personally bit pissed he didn't use his speed, :mad: but oh well, ...he should be practicing for the next itme he runs into Bart, maybe then he'd be more used into tapping into his full power....he took that "Cough""chokeslam""cough:: pretty well :cool: WHen Lois tried to punch him , and nearly broke her fist, HAHAHa, that was Rich:rotfl: :rotfl: :lol:

:\ I probably read too much into certain stories sometimes, and I understand your Opinion. However, IMHO, what I think about the way Clark is acting is that he is acting a lot like many of us act when greiving a loss. I'm sure you'll also agree with me and observed, as Martha pointed out to him, he is ANGRY. With his extreme power, it's hard for him to find ways to release those strong feelings without wallowing in his depression or lashing out at others who aren't really who he wants to target. If he became destructive in his rage, losing his control, there'd be a lot of death and broken things before he realized what he was doing. Fighting Titan in sort of a hand-to-hand combat manner was probably more satisfying to him than simply using his other abilities. Titan could take almost whatever Clark could dish out and allow him to vent some of his anger. Titan was the dummy who didn't retract that boney spike after he was hit that last time. It was an accident. If he hadn't stabbed himself, I think he and Clark would've fought until one of them was overcome somehow. Maybe then Clark would've used his other abilities to get an advantage to finally take him out. I think he wanted to feel some other type of pain to help him forget about the pain and frustration he's carrying in his heart over Lana. He is still young, afterall, and struggling to get over his first love. Another thing, he's getting a LOT of practice with his fighting skills, although we don't get to see it, when he's rounding up all those meteor infected criminals and bringing them to justice. His journey toward becoming the Superman of legend is grueling and Smallville is taking us along slowly, I guess, so that they can get another season to finish telling this story to help Clark get there. "Combat" was a lot more complicated than many give it credit for. It really was a good episode. I know, it's only My Opinion. And as for Lois, she had obviously done a little research before running head long into finding evidence for a story. She dressed appropriately for someone who would be a stripper in a seedy nightclub that she knew was nearby. It was a good cover for her when/if she got caught. She just didn't know exactly what she was getting herself into. ;)

[I_Luv_Johnny_Depp]

what Was this episode bout i had Ot Miss it !!!

[jack1487]

Originally posted by Imzadia
[B]

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. We perceive this ongoing storyline the same way, Same outlook. Also, what I think about the way Clark is acting is that he is acting a lot like many of us act when greiving a loss. I'm sure you'll also agree with me and observed, as Martha pointed out to him, he is ANGRY. With his extreme power, it's hard for him to find ways to release those strong feelings without wallowing in his depression or lashing out at others who aren't really who he wants to target. If he became destructive in his rage, losing his control, there'd be a lot of death and broken things before he realized what he was doing. Fighting Titan in sort of a hand-to-hand combat manner was probably more satisfying to him than simply using his other abilities. Titan could take whatever he could dish out and allow him to vent some of his anger. Titan was the dummy who didn't retract that boney spike after he was hit that last time. It was an accident. If he hadn't stabbed himself, I think he and Clark would've fought until one of them was overcome somehow. Maybe then Clark would've used his other abilities to get an advantage take him down. I think he wanted to feel some other type of pain to help him forget about the pain and frustration he's carrying in his heart over Lana. He is still young, afterall, and struggling to get over his first love. To me "Combat" was a lot more complicated than it seems if you think about all that has happened before now. I thought it was right on target...a real good episode.



:\ I probably read too much into certain stories sometimes, and I understand your Opinion. However, IMHO, what I think about the way Clark is acting is that he is acting a lot like many of us act when greiving a loss. I'm sure you'll also agree with me and observed, as Martha pointed out to him, he is ANGRY. With his extreme power, it's hard for him to find ways to release those strong feelings without wallowing in his depression or lashing out at others who aren't really who he wants to target. If he became destructive in his rage, losing his control, there'd be a lot of death and broken things before he realized what he was doing. Fighting Titan in sort of a hand-to-hand combat manner was probably more satisfying to him than simply using his other abilities. Titan could take almost whatever Clark could dish out and allow him to vent some of his anger. Titan was the dummy who didn't retract that boney spike after he was hit that last time. It was an accident. If he hadn't stabbed himself, I think he and Clark would've fought until one of them was overcome somehow. Maybe then Clark would've used his other abilities to get an advantage to finally take him out. I think he wanted to feel some other type of pain to help him forget about the pain and frustration he's carrying in his heart over Lana. He is still young, afterall, and struggling to get over his first love. Another thing, he's getting a LOT of practice with his fighting skills, although we don't get to see it, when he's rounding up all those meteor infected criminals and bringing them to justice. His journey toward becoming the Superman of legend is grueling and Smallville is taking us along slowly, I guess, so that they can get another season to finish telling this story to help Clark get there. "Combat" was a lot more complicated than many give it credit for. It really was a good episode. I know, it's only My Opinion. And as for Lois, she had obviously done a little research before running head long into finding evidence for a story. She dressed appropriately for someone who would be a stripper in a seedy nightclub that she knew was nearby. It was a good cover for her when/if she got caught. She just didn't know exactly what she was getting herself into. ;)


I aagree with you and you hit the nail on the head..

Jack

[kryptonaidxh]

:) Atcually the fool of Lana was only a childhood sweetheart for Cark, thats it, I don´t know why writters have taken too importance to her into Smallville, when the woman who is the real Clark´s soulmate and the love of his life is Lois Lane, but well.. anyway I liked the episode just because of Clark, Lois and also Chloe, I just hope that Chloe doesn´t die at the end of season 6 like the rumor say. The both fights between Clark-Titan and Lois-Ashley were the best, and it was a good episode.;)

[enamored]

Smallville is supposed to be about Clark's childhood so of course his childhood sweetheart would figure prominently. Lois is the love of Clark's life but not until after he becomes Superman and is a reporter at the Daily Planet. Yes, many of us are tired of the stretching out of the doomed Clana relationship but there are also many who wish it would come back.

[TOMophilus]

Originally posted by redk_lex16
...The idea that Clark enjoys killing the zoner is preposterous! He is Superman! If he were on Red-K, you could forgive him, and it would have been appropriate, but he was not! That is NOT Clark! I was also looking forward to leaving the clark-lana-lex triangle, but it was back at the very beginning of the episode! Lana and Clark are not meant for eachother, they never were. They should just get over it. They are deviating from Superman mythology almost irreversably....
I agree! Combat was an awful episode. With respect to Clark, after 6 years you would expect some character progression, not character regression. Portraying Clark as so enraged about the loss of his teenie love that he enjoys (!) beating up someone, is clearly a sign of immaturity. As he gets older, he should be able to control his emotions, not getting more emotional. This is regressive and damages the character of Clark Kent.

I am also quite troubled by triplet´s Combat review. She too glorifies the violent fight. At the same time she complains about the homoerotic almost-kiss between Lois and that wrestling girl, because her kids watch the show too. No wonder this world is in such a bad state when it is deemed OK for kids to be constantly exposed to violent fight scenes, whereas one apparently believes that they may get harmed by witnessing a homosexual kiss. Actually I wish the guys in Irag and elsewhere would kiss rather than kill each other.

To me it´s really saddening to see how many people actually enjoyed this terrible fight scene, because it is a clear sign of how uncivilized humankind still is.

[enamored]

TOMophilus,

I so understand your disgust over the glorification of violence that has become so commonplace in our society. I try my best to limit my childrens' exposure to that kind of thing.

I think the reason that so many people were excited about the fight is that for once Clark gave as good as he got. It seems that in many of the previous fights Clark hasn't really shown his superior strength, i.e. Zod, the cannibal zoner played by the other wrestler (whose name escapes me). For once, that wasn't the case.

As for the other issue, I don't begin to know Triplet's point of view about homosexuality but I do know that as the mother of two children the whole issue of sexuality on screen (big or small) is sometimes tricky. It brings up questions and issues that some parents would rather not tackle at that point in their child's life but are then forced to explain maybe earlier than they had hoped to.

[sphrkilo]

Say what you will, but I doubt that anyone would find Smallville very interesting to watch if Clark just kissed and made up with his enemies. We enjoyed the fight scene because of how well it was constructed, and it was definitely an improvement on similar scenes from past episodes.

[Acejournalist82]

Lois kicked butt as usuall. I give it a 10!

[Imzadia]

Originally posted by jack1487
I aagree with you and you hit the nail on the head..

Jack

:) Thanks, Jack, for your support of my interpretation of what happened in "Combat". It's too bad that some others didn't read my input and reconsidered even a little to re-evaluate the episode. I personally read so many of other's comments on this forum so that I could 'connect' with those who I hope would have similar tastes in entertainment as I do. However, since SMALLVILLE is based on a DC Comics character, many of the very young participants who frequent this forum DO relish the "Action" and "Violence" that's often portrayed in Superhero adventures. It's typical, but I also love Action/Adventure movies and it's always a thrill to see the "Bad Guys" taken down by the "Good Guys" in every story. I don't ever like violence for violence sake, or simply because some writers think it's needed to spice up a story. I just like a happy ending where our familiar characters don't get killed, and someone comes to the rescue. In our violent society today, too many people are innocent victims who had no rescuer in sight to deliver them from an unfortunate demise. A Peaceful society is a Dream many of us hope for. Obviously, NOT All of us do, because we do live in a world that boldly displays our lack of civilization. However, a line has been drawn, and there are those who seek violence and live violently and those who've made the CHOICE to be Peacemakers. It's a fact. TV is a true reflection of our society. It's only 'make-believe', and those who try to entertain us feel that they must continue to push the edge of the envelope of the thrill to hold our attention, but sadly, the true horror is that reality is worse.
Shows like Smallville present to us a Moral compass. In "Combat", Titan/Kane was a living being, true, but he was 'Bred' for Battle and Killing by scientists on an alien world. If he'd been shown mercy, he wouldn't have understood it, and many innocents would have died for his sport. Many humans would've died while Titan tried to satisfy his hunger for killing among a race of people who were no physical match for him. Clark, with his Kryptonian heritage, was equipped with the ability to defend the defenseless. For me, Titan's 'accidental' death was justified. :\

[smallville526]

8, because it was a little too vilent but very good. I was scared for Clark :o

[DAILEYPLANETREPORTER]

I gave this episode an eight, but only because Lois didn't kiss the security guard! What a great way to show us her prowess and future potential as a reporter! Chloe would never go that far for a story!

As for Clark regressing? I'm sure all young adults have done that from time to time...even the man of steel is allowed to show his true emotions! Good or bad!

[Imzadia]

Originally posted by DAILEYPLANETREPORTER
I gave this episode an eight, but only because Lois didn't kiss the security guard! What a great way to show us her prowess and future potential as a reporter! Chloe would never go that far for a story!

As for Clark regressing? I'm sure all young adults have done that from time to time...even the man of steel is allowed to show his true emotions! Good or bad!

;) Great points made and observations about a still maturing Clark Kent/'future' Superman. I also see Lois as you do...I think. I love the way they're writing her now. We see that she's always been impetuous, but tenacious and driven. She holds firm to her integrity and she's determined to fight for and protect those who need rescuing. She's not fearless, but she's brave and won't back down. She's strong And strong-willed, quick-witted and won't bite her tongue...which of course, is almost constantly in motion. She's honing her own abilities and really beginning to display the characteristics that will earn her the reputation of the Lois Lane of reknown. She is just about the best 'role model' any young person could have and god, I love her! :lol: (I'm sure you can tell by my praising rant.) :lol:

[lex fan 10]

This os my review hope you like it:)

i thought it was a great episode it has one of favorite wwe wrestlers kane.it also have a girl wrestler ashley.i like the big fight whith clark and the other guy.i also like louis jumps on the guy.i like when lois fights the girl.lois is funny sometimes.i like chloe helping clark. Ok thats my review hope you like it:)

[jjgravitas]

Yea, several:


The raw violence. Never before seen Clark so angry and so willing to act out on his anger. Not without Red K.
Titan. How could you not like a monster like that? "Say goodbye, Kryptonian."
Ashley Massaro. Sexy thugs rule!
Lois in her red patent leather outfit.
The spilled coffee scene. Priceless.
Clark throwing that guy around simply to get his attention.
I could go on.

[Nimkong]

This is a great episode.My 3 on my top 3.Liked the fight,how clark was pissed and lana "miscarrage"

[BoyScout-ManOfTomorrow]

"Time to die Kryptonian!" Titan

10! Why? Clark fighting Titan- scene. 'Nuff said. :D

But seriously...episodes that picture Clark fighting to the last are something that are needed in this show. When you have The Man Of Steel you really need him to a round or two every once in a while. Loved the fight, the combatants, their costumes, the cage scenery and the raw power that showed these two titans fighting to the last. Superman shouldn't kill but against villains like Doomsday there really is no other choice. I think Titan was the same and Clark really doesn't even kill him directly. When the brute goes down I had no sympathy for him. Especially tossing Lois around.

Speaking of Lois, episodes that show her ability to search and get a peek of scoobs are always welcome. Fort Ryan (mentioned also in S4 "Gone") was an excellent way to mention Lois's past as an "army prat" as she calls it. Her way of finding a way into a tough spot and Clark saving him is always iconic and welcome. Though I have to give Lois credit for playing with Athena or whatshernameagain in a very insinuating scene. The cat fight was also welcome even if it was fast but that kick was so cool.

I also liked the scene in the parking lot of Belle Reve where Clark gave away his secret...yeah it was stupid but the scene was handled so well. Loved how he catched the bullet and convincing Maddox he is the real deal.

Lana's "miscarrage" sub-plot was also nice contrast to the episode. It was dark too but alittle more traditional Smallville in a way.

Finally I loved Clark going against Lois for a while and Lois punching the Man Of Steel. But really...Lois looked so damn good in that red latex.

[Simba_Muffy]

Did anyone think the episode went by way too fast? I blinked and it was over. I gave the episode a 7/10. It wasn't great, but I wasn't bored and I didn't leave with the need to beat Clark over the head.

The Good

I loved Clark not holding back in the fight scenes. It was awesome seeing him rip into someone who was a match for him. He was pissed at losing Lana and he needed to vent. What better way than to do that on Kane, who proved to be a decent match?

Clark's proactive attitude in this episode and him working with the JL. I didn't even mind his "Kal-El" attitude, and him trying to focus more on the fact that he's not human to block his pain from the Lex/Lana marriage. He was dealing with his emotions in a way that doesn't involve him moping and sitting around the house, and I'm all for that. :)

At the end, when Lana's sitting in the baby room with that blank/devastated look on her face. I thought that was good. That's the only scene in this episode where I actually felt sympathy for her loss.

Seeing Lois fight, yay Lois! Lois going to the scene in her tight red outfit seems to confuse some, but wasn't her cover that of a stripper whose car had broken down or something? So, her outfit wasn't that out of place...

As for taking Chloe's story...I honestly don't see it that. She was acting out her instincts as a reporter. She didn't go snooping in Chloe's computer (although I'm sure the thought crossed her mind). Instead, she got the information from the picture in the trash can (convenient though it was how she was able to figure things out) and ran with it. She didn't steal Chloe's notes or her story. She found a tip ( in the trashcan)and went for it. Sounds like a reporter to me. I don't see what Lois did as "stealing" Chloe's story, I see it as the first signs of Lois's reporter instincts coming out. How many times did Lois do the same thing for the Daily Planet in Lois & Clark? She's probably done it in the comics too. Lois isn't shy about treading the ethical line between getting the story and getting into someone else's business...most investigative reporters aren't.

The Not So Good

While I enjoyed seeing a good fight scene, and I enjoyed Clark going after the zoners and not moping over Lana, I do agree that his motivations were somewhat less heroic. I know Clark's doing a good thing by rounding up criminals and going after the phantom zoners, and I'm all for that, but he was taking out his anger on the meteor people. It kinda reminds me of the cop who has had a bad day and uses more force than necessary on the captured suspect. Sure, they are criminals, but that doesn't mean you can pound on them just to vent your anger. Notice how I said meteor freaks and not Kane. Kane totally needed a beat-down.

Lana's miscarriage--Eh. Whatever. The baby wasn't doing anything for the story other than giving Lex something to experiment on. So, I'm okay that it's gone. Up until this episode, Lana showed no motherly concerns about her baby. It was all about her conflicted emotions towards Clark and Lex. So, even though I really felt her emotions in that last scene with Lex, it would've had more impact if I had seen Lana's love for her child in previous episodes. Cuz seriously, I haven't seen it all.

Clark killing the zoner. I'm not going to spazz over the whole "but Superman doesn't kill" issue b/c I honestly believe that there are situations that require it. And, Superman has killed before in the comics when there's absolutely no other choice that Superman can see as someone else mentioned as well. Unfortunately, I don't think this episode was one of those times. If Clark was really all about accepting his destiny, he would be back at the FoS getting tips from Jor-El on how to get rid of the Zoners. So, I didn't really feel for his "conflict" about killing Kane. He really was just pissed off and trying to distract himself from recent events.


Finally, that little bit at the end where Clark is telling Martha he needs to find out how and why Lana chose Lex over him. Nope, I didn't like that at all. Loved how Martha told him to let her go, and I wish Clark had shown some sign that he would. Man, I hope he moves on. Go after the zoners, go after 33.1, go after Lex, but let Lana go. :p

I agree. She never thought about her baby when she was going run off with Clark. This was the only time she cared. WTF?