Doctor's Death Accidental?

[Heilige]

I felt like Lex's murder of the doctor wasn't accidental. Why does everyone think that? He could just be lying to Lionel. Also, what would be the purpose of pummeling the doctor and leaving it at that? If anything that would give the doctor even more incentive to tell Lana. So wouldn't Lex want to murder him intentionally in that case?

[RedPhoenix23]

Well logicaly, what was Lex's plan? Beat the doctor into submission? Nah, he was going to HAVE to ghost him. But at the same time, he really was just on autopilot and didn't have time to think about what he had done.

[Heilige]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Well logicaly, what was Lex's plan? Beat the doctor into submission? Nah, he was going to HAVE to ghost him. But at the same time, he really was just on autopilot and didn't have time to think about what he had done.


I figured his plan was to murder him so he could get rid of him and not worry about him telling Lana. How do you know his plan wasn't to murder him all along as soon as he got blackmailed?

[LanaKent113]

I think his death was no accident. Lex is obviously spirally out slowly to what he will ultimately become. Especially this season, first with 33.1, lying to lana about so many of his intentions, the pregnancy, and now murder. Lex has always been a shady character and murder is not beneath him, he was capable and now he has done it.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Looked accidental to me.

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by Heilige
I figured his plan was to murder him so he could get rid of him and not worry about him telling Lana. How do you know his plan wasn't to murder him all along as soon as he got blackmailed?

Because if that was the plan all along, Lex would have just used a gun with a silencer on it of course. Or as MB pointed out, if murder was Lex's intent when meeting the Doc, then it would have just been planned out a bit better. For example, Lex could have easily hired a hitman to do the deed for him. After Lex decided to smack the doctor around though, I am damn certian his mind was made up then and there though. So it's not all that "accidental".

[LanaKent113]

I agree though he didnt plan to kill him before meeting the doc, it wasnt premeditated. However, but once he went after him, there was no stopping it. Lex is crazy...the guy was badly beaten and when he pushed him backward into that crypt, if the impact of his head on the concrete didnt do it, no doubt he would have followed through. Lex does anything and everything to get what he wants so killing the doc to shut him up, to lex it was necessary due to the circumstances.

[HighPotency23]

I agree, we all know what Lex is going to be in the future. Accidental or not, it was a good way of showing who Lex really is and what he is capable of... come on now... your wedding day... in a church... murdering a guy... and throwing him in a coffin....

[j-kent]

Nothing was suppose to be logical about that...he lost his cool and was furious

[Reign]

It was not premeditated, so it's not murder per se. Lex would be able to reduce his charges to manslaughter for sudden heat of passion provocation. That is, if they can determine the cause of death was the beating. I find it hard to believe that Lex packs that hard of a punch... looked more like the doctor passed out and Lex shoved him in the tomb to prevent him from waking up and ruining the wedding or spilling the beans to the cops. Remember, Lex's private school friend took a worser beating from him and did not die (sort of) until he was hit by a car

I thought I heard Lionel suggest something to the nature that he had to clean up Lex's mess... meaning perhaps Lionel finished the job (murder)

[RedPhoenix23]

The doctor fell back and wacked his head pretty hard on one of the coffin/tomb/sarcafigous things and a pool of blood oozed out from his lifeless head. So I am pretty sure Lex finished the job all by himself.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
The doctor fell back and wacked his head pretty hard on one of the coffin/tomb/sarcafigous things and a pool of blood oozed out from his lifeless head. So I am pretty sure Lex finished the job all by himself.
Yeah, but I doubt this scenario would qualify for murder in the first degree...

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, but I doubt this scenario would qualify for murder in the first degree...

Probably. Then again, the court would want to know why Lex was meeting with his fiance's doctor in the crypt and that would lead Lex into a whole world of other problems.

AND Lex would likely still be held accountable for the doctors death, just a less severe charge then murder in the first degree. Maybe um, I don't know manslaughter? All I know about that crap is what I learned from Law and Order, lol.

[madCoder]

Lex didn't actually push him. In that sense, the doctor's death really was accidental. Someone else mentioned that Lex was just on "autopilot", which is exactly what came to my mind. He was so enraged by the idea of losing Lana that he just flipped and started beating the guy. But just before the doc actually hit the crypt, everything goes slow motion, and you can see a look on Lex's face that clearly shows he was just coming to his senses. He realized that he was about to kill this man, and that made him pause. By then it was too late and the doctor was already losing consciousness and falling backward into the crypt. Lex did NOT push the doctor into it. But once he hit his head and was surely dead (either from a broken neck or severe head trauma, or *would* be dead soon from loss of blood), Lex did the only thing he could think of: put him into the tomb.

I thought that was a very well-executed scene, and I'm surprised so many people are assuming that he intended to kill him. Watch the episode again -- the shocked look on Lex's face explains volumes about what this scene is meant to portray.

[SpeedDemon77]

Lex kills a lot of people "accidentally". Funny huh? He always manages to justify it in some fashion. That's what infuriates Lionel about Lex. If Lionel wanted to kill someone, he would simply just do it....and no one would ever be the wiser. He's a meticulous planner. Lex is impulsive. He causes death indirectly. Like he did in "Reunion" when he started beating the crap out of his buddy. If the guy hadn't been bloody and senseless from Lex beating him, he wouldn't have stepped into the path of an oncoming car. The doctor wouldn't have fallen and cracked his skull on the crypt if Lex hadn't beaten the mess out of him already. He murders, but hasn't yet done it with premeditation.

Now, what would Lex have done if the doctor had simply threatened him over the phone or something to that effect and Lex hadn't had the chance to beat him senseless at the very moment the threat took place? Probably just sent someone to snuff him instead. Lex tries his best not to get his hands dirty, and when he does slip up and that happens, Daddy gets mad. He wants Lex to be clever enough to be able to pull it off himself and get away with it IF he's going to do it at all. He loathes his son's impulsiveness.

So yes, I'd have to say it was accidental. But it was a happy accident for Lex. He certainly wasn't showing any remorse for it.

[friday]

It wasn't a pre-meditated murder but if Lex wasn't beating the doctor in the first place then he wouldn't have hit his head and died. Lex wouldn't get charged with first degree, but definitely manslaughter.

[silverfist]

Yes, in my eyes he most definetely murdered the doctor. He did just not have to "finish it" himself.

[Heilige]

Originally posted by madCoder
Lex didn't actually push him. In that sense, the doctor's death really was accidental. Someone else mentioned that Lex was just on "autopilot", which is exactly what came to my mind. He was so enraged by the idea of losing Lana that he just flipped and started beating the guy. But just before the doc actually hit the crypt, everything goes slow motion, and you can see a look on Lex's face that clearly shows he was just coming to his senses. He realized that he was about to kill this man, and that made him pause. By then it was too late and the doctor was already losing consciousness and falling backward into the crypt. Lex did NOT push the doctor into it. But once he hit his head and was surely dead (either from a broken neck or severe head trauma, or *would* be dead soon from loss of blood), Lex did the only thing he could think of: put him into the tomb.

I thought that was a very well-executed scene, and I'm surprised so many people are assuming that he intended to kill him. Watch the episode again -- the shocked look on Lex's face explains volumes about what this scene is meant to portray.

Your right. I just rewatched that scene and from Lex's expression you can tell he didn't intend to kill him. He looked like he almost had tears welling up in his eyes when he was looking at the doctor on the floor.

Also, he told Lionel it was an accident. I guess if he intended to murder the doctor he would have "bragged" about it to Lionel. He would have no reason to lie about it, come to think of it.