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SmallvilleMan
03-15-2007, 06:12 PM
Where has this insight knowledge been in the previous episodes?

shy175223
03-15-2007, 06:13 PM
I kind of liked Clark's rebuttal to that comments.

meggy
03-15-2007, 06:15 PM
i didnt...of course she knows how hard it's been for him. she's heard about it for 6 freakin years :/

TrevorH
03-15-2007, 06:15 PM
Barn at 5! come on dumb commercials get back to the show!

Kid Collins
03-15-2007, 06:17 PM
I also want to thank Martha!!

:lol:

thehenry89
03-15-2007, 06:17 PM
i thought that was completely OOC for chloe. i mean 3 weeks ago her AND martha told him to leave lana alone, now they're pimpin the clana...but i forgot if you drink the SV water supply your subject to nightly amnesia.

SuperFan85
03-15-2007, 06:17 PM
was that real? or another dream?

Raging Clue
03-15-2007, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
I kind of liked Clark's rebuttal to that comments.
Yup. I have a feeling that Lana won't find out the truth.

SmallvilleMan
03-15-2007, 06:19 PM
I know, Martha now said something too. What the heck people? Where was this earlier Martha? And stop flipping on the clana!

TrevorH
03-15-2007, 06:27 PM
Barn at 5! here we go its right after these commercials Clark comes clean.

CountryGirl84
03-15-2007, 10:59 PM
I was just wondering what people thought of Chloe's role in this episode? Liked it, hated it?

There was something I didn't quite like about how they used her to yell at Clark with that big speech about Lana marrying a monster and clark saving the day, but I can't quite put my finger on what it was.

TheRowdy
03-15-2007, 11:15 PM
Coming from a HUGE Chloe fan, I was urked by her role tonight. But that's ok for Allison, we all know its TPTB's fault. :lol:

jazel
03-15-2007, 11:16 PM
Chloe.....lol......a fan I am not
my "friends", don't get much say so, in my life :p

svfan50
03-15-2007, 11:17 PM
O...i guess you are just opening this site...everybody hated it....by everybody i meanus..CHLARKERS,...! and most of briwsers are chlarkers..!!!! but v just hated...browse abt the other threads and you would get plenty of material as to why!!!

CountryGirl84
03-15-2007, 11:18 PM
Yes Allison did a great job delivering her role, I had no troubles with that. I didn't like the role they gave her to play though. It didn't seem like her usual self.

InLove_with_Chloe
03-15-2007, 11:19 PM
Chloe as a character was not present in this epi......all there was, was her as a plot device, IMO.

I mean, why would she even be there after 'Feak'?!?

cj_wow
03-15-2007, 11:22 PM
I became a chlarker tonight after watching that episode. Chloe is definetely a character to be reckoned with. Can't wait to find out how the meteors have affected her

TheRowdy
03-15-2007, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by cj_wow
I became a chlarker tonight after watching that episode. Chloe is definetely a character to be reckoned with. Can't wait to find out how the meteors have affected her

Welcome to the dark side! We fight for Chlark over here. :p

BadToad
03-15-2007, 11:26 PM
It was not a good episode for Chloe.

But she was in good company. And since Lex and Clark were in a contest for sucking the most and the hardest, she sort of catches a break by circumstance. And she really only had one tough character moment...Clark and Lex had an entire episode full of them.

alienkinfolk
03-15-2007, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Chloe as a character was not present in this epi......all there was, was her as a plot device, IMO.

I mean, why would she even be there after 'Feak'?!?

thank you!! I mean lex tried to kill her.
Let's be 4 real. I would think Lana doesn't value Chloe's life if she's still going to marry the man that tried to kill her best friend.

lillie_poo_pod
03-15-2007, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by BadToad
It was not a good episode for Chloe.

But she was in good company. And since Lex and Clark were in a contest for sucking the most and the hardest, she sort of catches a break by circumstance. And she really only had one tough character moment...Clark and Lex had an entire episode full of them.

ITA. And I'm a HUGE Chloe fan and it sucks to see the PTB ret-con her to make Clana happen. Just like they did with Martha.

And I agree Lex and Clark had the worst character moments of all.


Originally posted by alienkinfolk
thank you!! I mean lex tried to kill her.
Let's be 4 real. I would think Lana doesn't value Chloe's life if she's still going to marry the man that tried to kill her best friend.

Remember this is the girl who sat by the man that tried to blow her and her dad up @ Thanksgiving. I for one would not have trusted those peas.

Indira Kal
03-15-2007, 11:38 PM
chloe was good, however i don't think she should've been so forthcoming in her attempt to motivate clark to win lana over at the last minute. not with the fact that she probably is still in love with him. i think us chlarkers know what i'm talking about here...
i hope!

msleggie
03-16-2007, 12:13 AM
I am a huge Chloe fan, I usually love her role on Smallville. But in this episode, she made me angry. Her advise to clark wasn't neccessarily called for. She should have saved that attitude for Lana when she was confiding in her about her suspisions of Lex. She shouldn't have expected clark to save the day when it was very clear that lana made the choice to be with lex.

Rhoda123
03-16-2007, 06:25 AM
I've always been a huge Chloe fan and last night was no exception even though she was used as a plot device. Last nights episode was not only hard to follow but stupid, pathetic and just basically weird to watch.. I do like that Chloe told Clark to fight for Lana.. and that she was there for Lana. Now NOONE can say that Chloe isn't a good friend. She proved herself for sure last night. I am glad that Lana finally found out about Clark (only took the airhead 6 years).. the way she did it even impressed me and the fact that she gave up herself for Clark proves she does care for Clark but I'm so over the Clana Drama that I could openly weep when they are onscreen together!

Peat Moss
03-16-2007, 06:31 AM
I don't like how everyone's acting like Clark's one flaw is not pursuing a relationship with Lana. Let him get over it. They are not in love. Lana is not the one for him--we know that by the canon story and the characters should be able to figure it out. Maybe he should break up Lexana, since on this episode we see that she is genuinely afraid of him, but his motivation should not be wanting her for himself.

natwelling
03-16-2007, 10:38 AM
I was not happy with her role in this episode.. my point is that she should off stay quiet the hole episode and not say a word.. But YOU KNOW CHLOE!!!! she just have to say something:\ :\

Iluvgreen
03-16-2007, 11:28 AM
It wasn't that big. I didn't really like it cause wouldn't she be paronoid right now?

harryandginnyfanatic
03-16-2007, 12:23 PM
In fareness to Lex he wasn't directly involved in Chloes kidnapping, the Doctor guy was. He only found out about it afterwards. He must've been just as surprised to find out about Chloe.

Chloe's probably decided to forgive and forget. She and Lionel don't seem to have a problem anymore despite him trying to have her killed.

Joelito
03-16-2007, 12:42 PM
After watching this episode, and how Chloe told all those things to Clark about hiding his secrets, bla, bla..and leave the love of his life...makes me wonder...

Does she?

LuthorKent90
03-16-2007, 12:48 PM
Does she what??

msleggie
03-16-2007, 12:48 PM
I hope not. I think she was just trying to be a good friend like she did with the Lana and Lex situation. She still might like Clark but she knows he still has feelings for Lana and wants Clark to tie up his loose ends.

RedKRules
03-16-2007, 01:08 PM
I agree with u msleggie!

TheSupaMan
03-16-2007, 09:21 PM
Why would she bring up a conversation with him of such nature knowing that Lana could be within a few yards listening to every word? Did she forget that she's in the damn place?

I also think Clark was fairly careless in the scene as well, since there could've been cameras nearby.

maryjanewatson
03-16-2007, 10:52 PM
I completely agree. they all know that there are camera's all over the luthor mansion. they all needed to be more carefull.

and what was with chloe calling clark so fast? I mean, she hadn't been in the cooler for more than a minute, and she was already calling him. Given that she didn't know that lana was the one that locked her in, she could have waited a while for lana to realise she was taking a long time and come see what was happening.

BABarracus
03-16-2007, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by TheSupaMan
Why would she bring up a conversation with him of such nature knowing that Lana could be within a few yards listening to every word? Did she forget that she's in the damn place?

I also think Clark was fairly careless in the scene as well, since there could've been cameras nearby. what happend to clarks super hearing he could not hear her breathing in the room but some seasons back he could hear her crying sevral hunderd feet away in her car wile window rolled up

lillie_poo_pod
03-16-2007, 11:05 PM
Ok she was in a freakin fraking cellar how tha hell was she supposed to know Lana was there? Gimmie a break.

maryjanewatson
03-16-2007, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by BABarracus
what happend to clarks super hearing he could not hear her breathing in the room but some seasons back he could hear her crying sevral hunderd feet away in her car wile window rolled up
I was thinking that same thing when i was watching this episode! Why couldn't he hear her in the room? She wasn't exactly holding still, and they have shown clark listening for just a heart beat before.


they are sooo inconsistent with his powers.

it would have made more sense if she was up in lex's office watching it on camera, then deleting it so lex couldn't see the footage.

mtnmama236
03-16-2007, 11:11 PM
Clark has to stop & listen, and I think he was upset enough about being in the Luthor mansion on the wedding day that he wasn't thinking about cameras, or Lana being there.

I think the Chloe was more upset by Lana's preoccupation than she let on and that's why she talked to Clark the way she did.

svfan50
03-16-2007, 11:32 PM
i THINK IT WAS TOTAALLYYYY UNREQUIRED AND PUSHED SCENE....
I mean...Chloe wouldn't ever do something like that(calling Clark to use his abilities) in Luthor mansion....

it was totaly stupid!!! very bad writing!!!

maryjanewatson
03-16-2007, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by mtnmama236
Clark has to stop & listen, and I think he was upset enough about being in the Luthor mansion on the wedding day that he wasn't thinking about cameras, or Lana being there.

I think the Chloe was more upset by Lana's preoccupation than she let on and that's why she talked to Clark the way she did.
no, clark super-hears all the time. Take "thirst" or "Blank" for examples. Both times Chloe barely wispers to clark while in another room, and he hears her, and one of those times he was in a raging party with loud music and people.

Detorio
03-16-2007, 11:47 PM
Aye! Careless indeed! I watched the episode again and i wondered why didnt Clark do a sweep of the area in X-Ray Vision and with Extreme Hearing. It's not like it would have taken long to do and like mentioned above they were in the freaking Luthor Mansion for crying out loud and thats where they chose to have their chat. My oh my

TheRowdy
03-17-2007, 12:07 AM
Obviously I don't believe Chloe would expect Lana to be lurking behind the wine bottles close by which would explain her relying on Clark for help.

Nevertheless...

- Lana should have never locked Chloe in the fridge to begin with thus making her rely on Clark for help. What IF there were cameras down there and not only did Lana see Clark use his powers but now Lex holds the key to Clark's truth. Way to go Lana - you say you love Clark and yet you potentially put Clark in future danger for your insatiable need for the truth.

- Clark was completely dumb to not x-ray the room for camera, people, etc. Dumb dumb dumb.

- And HELL-O, super hearing? How convenient it wasn't put to use for the sake of a Lana scene.

The more I think of this episode, the more I burn up inside. ;)

The Great Ymmij
03-17-2007, 02:01 AM
Well, the episode where Chloe finds out, Alicia and Chloe weren't that far away from Clark either, but he didn't bother hearing them breathe. I don't think anybody was complaining about that scene at the time. This is basically the same situtation with Lana.

InLove_with_Chloe
03-17-2007, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by TheSupaMan
Why would she bring up a conversation with him of such nature knowing that Lana could be within a few yards listening to every word? Did she forget that she's in the damn place?

I also think Clark was fairly careless in the scene as well, since there could've been cameras nearby.
Let's face it: the entire scene was a joke.

The writers decided that Lana was to find out. So, she did.

The question remains: if it was so easy, why did it take her 6 years?!?
This show makes no sense at all.

Chiriru
03-17-2007, 02:10 AM
no, clark super-hears all the time. Take "thirst" or "Blank" for examples. Both times Chloe barely wispers to clark

That's kind of the point. It happens in Whisper, Thirst, Blank, Solitude - Clark randomly picks up one person and one person alone; Chloe.

The only fluke was Lionel hearing Lana; but we've never seen Clark randomly pick up any person other than Chloe; and that seems to be triggered by his name in most cases.

He didn't hear Lana because he's not attuned to her. :)

But holy plot contrivance, Batman! Talk about completely throwing the characterizations of Chloe and Clark out the window just so Lana would have an excuse to leave Lex.

maryjanewatson
03-17-2007, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Let's face it: the entire scene was a joke.

The writers decided that Lana was to find out. So, she did.

The question remains: if it was so easy, why did it take her 6 years?!?
This show makes no sense at all.
it's like you know the deepest most inner workings of my thoughts. :lol:

this season has been crap crap crap. I think i am going to go to LA and kick some writer-butt.

InLove_with_Chloe
03-17-2007, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
this season has been crap crap crap.
I agree. I remember you complaining, earlier this season.... You realized it sooner than I did.

maryjanewatson
03-17-2007, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by Chiriru
That's kind of the point. It happens in Whisper, Thirst, Blank, Solitude - Clark randomly picks up one person and one person alone; Chloe.

The only fluke was Lionel hearing Lana; but we've never seen Clark randomly pick up any person other than Chloe; and that seems to be triggered by his name in most cases.

He didn't hear Lana because he's not attuned to her. :)

But holy plot contrivance, Batman! Talk about completely throwing the characterizations of Chloe and Clark out the window just so Lana would have an excuse to leave Lex.

Superman/Clark doesn't just pick up one person, he is always hearing everything, his brain is just so complex that he can decifer it all. He can't just turn it on and off when he wants. He is always super hearing. it's just how he hears.

now he may, like most guys, have selective hearing. :rolleyes:


Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I agree. I remember you complaining, earlier this season.... You realized it sooner than I did.
I am very wise in my old age, lol.

ha, ya, i am the one who quit watching smallville there for a couple of weeks because i hated it so much. I may still hate it, but i will still watch it, and i will come here and complain about it. :lol:

InLove_with_Chloe
03-17-2007, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
now he may, like most guys, have selective hearing. :rolleyes:
Who could blame him? Lana is just nagging and complaining all the time...

maryjanewatson
03-17-2007, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Who could blame him? Lana is just nagging and complaining all the time...
I do kind of feel sorry for Kristin Kreuk though. I bet she hates the word "truth" now. :lol:

InLove_with_Chloe
03-17-2007, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
I do kind of feel sorry for Kristin Kreuk though. I bet she hates the word "truth" now. :lol:
Everytime she gives an interview she looks soooooooooooo enthusiastic about SV...
:lol:

maryjanewatson
03-17-2007, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Everytime she gives an interview she looks soooooooooooo enthusiastic about SV...
:lol:
I'm sure sometimes she wakes up screaming "SECRETS!! LIES!!!" Poor KK. it will all be over soon...if they keep writing all this crap. :rolleyes:

richard9820
03-17-2007, 06:32 AM
that speech was pretty convenient in the wine cellar. do you think Chloe knew Lana was there, and Lana had to heard the truth about Clark's love for her, since she was always trying to get Clark to admit his secret to Lana.

SV_Ingo
03-17-2007, 06:40 AM
No, I don't think Chloe knew it. :\

InLove_with_Chloe
03-17-2007, 06:49 AM
No.

clois_lover10
03-17-2007, 07:48 AM
No, if Chloe had known she would have been yelling at Lana for locking her in the wine cellar in the first place. :lol:

richard9820
03-17-2007, 09:01 AM
I think she has super intelligence, she figures things out to easy

NEWPORT
03-17-2007, 09:44 AM
didn't you see her look over and give Lana a thumbs up. ..

.. .or was it just me?

Hydra
03-17-2007, 10:04 AM
That was her thumb? I could've sworn that she gave lana the middle finger! I would have... three seasons ago.

margroks
03-17-2007, 10:56 AM
Everyone, except for the self-centered and manipulative Lana, was OOC, especially Chloe and MArtha who have wiselt counseled Clark to move the hell on. Martha has told him on several occasions that he knows Lana is not the one and now this crap? Everyone is Lana's cheerleader and Lana is a martyr. And Clark is no hero to be sneaking around with another guy's bride. That was inexcusable and CLark is a moron.

lillie_poo_pod
03-17-2007, 10:58 AM
^ WORD!

Kid Collins
03-17-2007, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Where has this insight knowledge been in the previous episodes?

Without her confronting Clark in the cellar, Lana would never know how much Clark gave up so she could be safe and that he still loved very much.

Yeah, Chloe's my hero now.
:lol:

Krypton935
03-17-2007, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Kid Collins
Without her confronting Clark in the cellar, Lana would never know how much Clark gave up so she could be safe and that he still loved very much.

Yeah, Chloe's my hero now.
:lol:

HEAR HEAR!!! couldn' t have said it better myself.

jonathan'sghost
03-17-2007, 12:46 PM
I just think Chloe looks incredible in her wedding garb...she gets hotter each week!!! Clark is still looking at the wrong girl!!

Dor el
03-17-2007, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Kid Collins
Without her confronting Clark in the cellar, Lana would never know how much Clark gave up so she could be safe and that he still loved very much.

Yeah, Chloe's my hero now.
:lol:

What has Clark given up besides Lana? Doesn't sound like so much to me. People break up everyday. It happens. You get over it and move on. Unless unrelenting longing is a new super power. I know Clark loves her, but for goodness sakes, enough all ready.

Poyntz
03-17-2007, 03:15 PM
yes chloe looks great in the wedding grub.. ummmm but it is more incredible how her collar bone scare from last episode is clear now!!!

beck-El
03-17-2007, 05:13 PM
ummmm but it is more incredible how her collar bone scare from last episode is clear now!!! [/B][/QUOTE]


LOL That smallville for you ,, gotta love it :) :rotfl:

RedPhoenix23
03-17-2007, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by margroks
Everyone, except for the self-centered and manipulative Lana, was OOC, especially Chloe and MArtha who have wiselt counseled Clark to move the hell on. Martha has told him on several occasions that he knows Lana is not the one and now this crap? Everyone is Lana's cheerleader and Lana is a martyr. And Clark is no hero to be sneaking around with another guy's bride. That was inexcusable and CLark is a moron.

Preach on!

All about Clark
03-17-2007, 07:41 PM
I don't agree with some of these comments.

First off, Chloe, Clark and Martha all care about Lana. You could see in the scene when she's walking down the aisle that Martha and Chloe were petrified that she would marry Lex. They were both wigging out, you could see it on their faces.

I think the bottom line for Chloe, is she wanted to see Lana saved and not marrying Lex. Same for Martha. Martha more basing what she said on her own experiences and didn't want Clark to have regrets, it all makes sense to me.

Billy Jor-El
03-18-2007, 11:47 AM
Don't know if this topic has been discussed at length elsewhere...bad dial-up at home forced me to see the forum for the first time this week a few days after the ep, and after a billion messages are already posted :)

But dang, here we are again. Lana locks her "best friend" in the wine cellar, stands up Clark, marries Lex (for whatever her reasons), and we have Chloe....

"Lana's not my hero, you are."

And still the BDA can't see the beauty in front of his eyes.

Cookie 28
03-18-2007, 12:00 PM
Ain't that the truth. :)

InLove_with_Chloe
03-18-2007, 12:01 PM
Have you seen the deleted scene from 'Tomb'...?

Chloe tells Clark that he's her hero, while he carries her away, in his arms.
That's romance, my friends...

Raging Clue
03-18-2007, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Have you seen the deleted scene from 'Tomb'...?

Chloe tells Clark that he's her hero, while he carries her away, in his arms.
That's romance, my friends...
I never saw that scene till now (http://youtube.com/watch?v=57IHnjD-78E). After watching it, I gotta agree with you. Clark's such a BDA :rolleyes:

InLove_with_Chloe
03-18-2007, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Raging Clue
I never saw that scene till now (http://youtube.com/watch?v=57IHnjD-78E). After watching it, I gotta agree with you. Clark's such a BDA :rolleyes:
He could have experienced real love......but he chose unhealthy obsession instead.
Too bad for him, IMO.

Raging Clue
03-18-2007, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
He could have experienced real love......but he chose unhealthy obsession instead.
Too bad for him, IMO.
"Unhealthy obsession" is an understatement IMO.

RPMSDB
03-18-2007, 04:21 PM
At the rate he keeps going, Clark might end up losing Chloe completely.

Does it bother anyone else that Clark (who just made his personal bomb squad comment) wasn't even concerned about Chloe being locked in the wine cellar at the Luthor mansion, and having to be around Lex (not to mention Lionel) without any type of support/protection from him at all because he was too busy moping and tossing hay bails to care about anyone other than himself (and of course, Lana)?

Sure, he can get there in no time, but he just promised her to be there for her and there he goes AGAIN all for the sake of Lana letting Chloe go trhough this all by herself.

Some personal bomb squad? He should of had Chloe sign a written release that he would indeed be her personal bomb squad as long as his obsession with Lana doesn' get in the way.

I'm sure Chloe already knows that. No wonder she didn't take Clark serious in Zod about wanting to hook up.

I'm looking forward to him getting the crap beat out of him next week. He certainly has it coming.

InLove_with_Chloe
03-18-2007, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by RPMSDB
Does it bother anyone else that Clark (who just made his personal bomb squad comment) wasn't even concerned about Chloe being locked in the wine cellar at the Luthor mansion, and having to be around Lex (not to mention Lionel) without any type of support/protection from him at all because he was too busy moping and tossing hay bails to care about anyone other than himself (and of course, Lana)?
That's an excellent point, especially after 'Freak'...

There was no continuity whatsoever between these two episodes.

IMO, 'Promise' should have aired in S3, not now. It is too late for such ridiculous Clexana drama...

chlark=destiny
03-18-2007, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by meggy
i didnt...of course she knows how hard it's been for him. she's heard about it for 6 freakin years :/

Yeah, she doesn't need the BDA telling her that she doesn't know him as well as he thought:rolleyes:. . .HELLO!. . .SHE'S HEARD ABOUT YOUR LANA WORSHIPPING SINCE SEASON 1:eek:. . .Gosh, I HOPE that he at least apologizes to her in COMBAT, BUT I GUESS that's asking too much:rolleyes:, SINCE he didn't even apologize to her in TRESSPASS for his behavior towards her in CRIMSON!:mad:. . .Lex, AKA Clark's enemy, got an apology, BUT NOT CHLOE, WHO HAPPENS TO BE HIS BEST FRIEND!?:\


Originally posted by RPMSDB
At the rate he keeps going, Clark might end up losing Chloe completely.

Does it bother anyone else that Clark (who just made his personal bomb squad comment) wasn't even concerned about Chloe being locked in the wine cellar at the Luthor mansion, and having to be around Lex (not to mention Lionel) without any type of support/protection from him at all because he was too busy moping and tossing hay bails to care about anyone other than himself (and of course, Lana)?

Sure, he can get there in no time, but he just promised her to be there for her and there he goes AGAIN all for the sake of Lana letting Chloe go trhough this all by herself.

Some personal bomb squad? He should of had Chloe sign a written release that he would indeed be her personal bomb squad as long as his obsession with Lana doesn' get in the way.

I'm sure Chloe already knows that. No wonder she didn't take Clark serious in Zod about wanting to hook up.

I'm looking forward to him getting the crap beat out of him next week. He certainly has it coming.

Yeah, I AGREE:(. . .Clark was too PREOCCUPIED with his LANA OBSESSION to care about Chloe's well-being:rolleyes:. . .ALSO, wasn't the wedding like a week after Freak? :eek:. . .How could he be such a jerk to her and NOT care about her being locked in the FREEZING wine cellar?! :mad:. . .I mean, come on, he just vowed to be her personal bomb squad:rolleyes:. . .Clark is DEFINITELY walking on thin ice with Chloe:(. . .I'm pretty sure that soon she will decide that she can't handle the drama in his life anymore and move on:(. . .Maybe then the BDA will REALIZE THAT CHLOE MEANS A LOT MORE TO HIM THAN SHE KNOWS;). . .LET'S HOPE THAT THE WRITERS WILL AT LEAST HAVE SOME CONTINUITY FROM LABYRINTH:\

BadToad
03-18-2007, 09:29 PM
Does it bother anyone else that Clark (who just made his personal bomb squad comment) wasn't even concerned about Chloe being locked in the wine cellar at the Luthor mansion, and having to be around Lex (not to mention Lionel) without any type of support/protection from him at all because he was too busy moping and tossing hay bails to care about anyone other than himself (and of course, Lana)?

Are we now supposing that Chloe is so weak and defenseless that Clark has to walk around holding her hand 24/7, when its Chloe that decided to be Maid of Honor, and Chloe who willingly walked into the Luthor mansion? Is it also Clark's fault that Chloe decided to be the one that went to get Lex in the church, and then walk to the altar with him? Was that Clark's fault as well?

Clark's bomb squad comment was not about shielding Chloe 24/7 from her own decisions. His comment was about being there if she ever started to freak out due to being infected by meteors.

And I really don't believe he owes Chloe an apology for what he said to her. Chloe called Clark to come get her...he rushed right over...she then berates him about stopping the wedding even though she just told him the previous week to go the wedding to show he moved on....AND it was clear that Chloe was asking Clark to do something she had no intention of attempting to do herself.


.How could he be such a jerk to her and NOT care about her being locked in the FREEZING wine cellar?!

What? If he didn't care, why did he rush over to get her out? Wouldn't he have just said..."tough crap Chloe, you're over there of your own free will, deal with it". What was he supposed to do once he got Chloe out, and she told him she was fetching Lex's wedding present from Lana....and then shoving the box in his face so he would see it. Wow, thanks Chloe, thats awesome :rolleyes: Honestly, what did you want him to do beyond that? Chloe was there helping Lana. She didn't want to leave. Lex wasn't in the mansion. What? I'm at a loss here.

And was there any reason to believe Chloe was in any danger from Lex on the day he was marrying Lana? Was Clark (not Chloe apparently) supposed to assume Lex wasn't going to stop mid-wedding to pounce on Chloe and attack her?


Gosh, I HOPE that he at least apologizes to her in COMBAT,

And I really hope he doesn't. In this episode, Clark ended up listening to Chloe's advice and prodding, and went to Lana and confessed his love (Ugh!), and ended up getting his heart smashed. So, is Chloe going to apologize for the advice she gave him?

-|loner|-
03-19-2007, 02:51 AM
Obviously, at the point where lana was stunned in the wine cellar by witnessing a handful of Clark's powers, was anyone thinking how it will affect the relationship between the bride and the bride's maid?

Lana now knows:

1) Chloe has been obviously hiding this ultimate secret about clark. From lana's view, if clark loved her so much, why would he let chloe know? Hopefully, the show will cover this down the stretch and make it short and sweet.

2) She heard the cold hard truth of what Chloe thought about Lex. I'm sure that Lana does in fact love Lex to an extent. I wonder if Lana will confront Chloe about not mentioning how she thought Lex was a monster when the "Lana was hiding in the wine cellar the whole time" bit gets aired out...

So now that Lana and Chloe both know clark has abilities, will it bring them closer together or tear them apart?

Rhoda123
03-19-2007, 07:53 AM
Knowing Lana, she'll blame Chloe for everything from not telling her that Clark had the powers to Lex being bald. Lana just can't except that Clark was trying to protect her. For whatever reason, he still loves her and was only thinking of her.

Rhoda123
03-19-2007, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by BadToad
Are we now supposing that Chloe is so weak and defenseless that Clark has to walk around holding her hand 24/7, when its Chloe that decided to be Maid of Honor, and Chloe who willingly walked into the Luthor mansion? Is it also Clark's fault that Chloe decided to be the one that went to get Lex in the church, and then walk to the altar with him? Was that Clark's fault as well?

Clark's bomb squad comment was not about shielding Chloe 24/7 from her own decisions. His comment was about being there if she ever started to freak out due to being infected by meteors.

And I really don't believe he owes Chloe an apology for what he said to her. Chloe called Clark to come get her...he rushed right over...she then berates him about stopping the wedding even though she just told him the previous week to go the wedding to show he moved on....AND it was clear that Chloe was asking Clark to do something she had no intention of attempting to do herself.



What? If he didn't care, why did he rush over to get her out? Wouldn't he have just said..."tough crap Chloe, you're over there of your own free will, deal with it". What was he supposed to do once he got Chloe out, and she told him she was fetching Lex's wedding present from Lana....and then shoving the box in his face so he would see it. Wow, thanks Chloe, thats awesome :rolleyes: Honestly, what did you want him to do beyond that? Chloe was there helping Lana. She didn't want to leave. Lex wasn't in the mansion. What? I'm at a loss here.

And was there any reason to believe Chloe was in any danger from Lex on the day he was marrying Lana? Was Clark (not Chloe apparently) supposed to assume Lex wasn't going to stop mid-wedding to pounce on Chloe and attack her?



And I really hope he doesn't. In this episode, Clark ended up listening to Chloe's advice and prodding, and went to Lana and confessed his love (Ugh!), and ended up getting his heart smashed. So, is Chloe going to apologize for the advice she gave him?


Of course Chloe should apologize. After all, EVERYTHING is her fault right? Give me a break!!!

BadToad
03-19-2007, 07:57 AM
Of course Chloe should apologize. After all, EVERYTHING is her fault right? Give me a break!!!

Actually, I don't think she should, nor do I care if she does. But its just as ridiculous to complain that Clark owes her apology for not kissing her butt when she's giving him a guilt trip when she has no intention of doing anything herself in that particular situation. IMO, Chloe was WRONG in that situation.

And how you got that I was saying that everything was Chloe's fault out of my post is simply astounding. :rolleyes:

BadToad
03-19-2007, 08:03 AM
I don't think it will change anything. It should. That would be more interesting dramatically. It would be more interesting to see Lana being resentful, and Chloe finding out about how Lana used her to out Clark, and being angry about that. But it won't happen.

Chloe will support Lana, whatever happens though. I'm pretty sure of that. Even if I don't think she should all the time.

Pandora24
03-19-2007, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by All about Clark
I don't agree with some of these comments.

First off, Chloe, Clark and Martha all care about Lana. You could see in the scene when she's walking down the aisle that Martha and Chloe were petrified that she would marry Lex. They were both wigging out, you could see it on their faces.

I think the bottom line for Chloe, is she wanted to see Lana saved and not marrying Lex. Same for Martha. Martha more basing what she said on her own experiences and didn't want Clark to have regrets, it all makes sense to me.

I bet they were all concerned about Lana marrying Lex, but it's not like they haven't warned her about Lex before. What did she do? Get upset. And, it's not like Lana doesn't know what Lex is all about. So, expecting Clark to rush in and save Lana is unfair to Clark b/c Lana's able to make her own decisions and if she doesn't want to marry Lex than she shouldn't. Let the girl make her own mistakes and deal with them.

And, my problem with Martha is her contradiction. She was telling Clark to leave Lana alone in "Crimson", but in this one, she's saying go for it basically. She had it right the first time. :p

Angelina2809
03-19-2007, 09:09 AM
Chloe is Lana's best friend! Why hasen't she told Lana what she knew about Lex? How can she let her BEST friend marry a monster like Lex?
Great job Chloe!!!! She told Clark that he had done a great job but what about her???
I really love Chloe but I cannot understand her in this way!!!

Jephael
03-19-2007, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Rhoda123
Knowing Lana, she'll blame Chloe for everything from not telling her that Clark had the powers to Lex being bald. Lana just can't except that Clark was trying to protect her. For whatever reason, he still loves her and was only thinking of her.

Um, why would Lana be mad at Chloe when it's obvious she's also been protecting her? If anything Chloe put her life on the line the minute she started helping Clark and Lana maintain a good relationship while staying out of Lex's radar!

mcgairman
03-19-2007, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Detorio
Aye! Careless indeed! I watched the episode again and i wondered why didnt Clark do a sweep of the area in X-Ray Vision and with Extreme Hearing. It's not like it would have taken long to do and like mentioned above they were in the freaking Luthor Mansion for crying out loud and thats where they chose to have their chat. My oh my

This is the problem with SV Clark. He never uses his powers to help himself protect his secret. He has so LITTLE intelligence at times. Come on! CK is supposed to be a descendent of a race of beings with a much GREATER level of intellignece than humans. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

:rolleyes:

ClarksGal
03-19-2007, 11:11 AM
I thought the scene looked pretty good for Chloe. She was definitely pushing Clark to do what would make Lana happy. Lana already knew that Chloe knew Clark's secret, and she already knew that Chloe thought Lex was behind the kidnappings.

dcf
03-19-2007, 11:12 AM
I don't think Lana will blame Chloe. She already had that discussion with her. She was upset at first, but then she agreed that she would respect Chloe keeping Clark's secret and find out on her own...

Besides how can she be angry after hearing Chloe push Clark to reveal his secret to Lana?

Dannyblue1
03-19-2007, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Angelina2809
Chloe is Lana's best friend! Why hasen't she told Lana what she knew about Lex? How can she let her BEST friend marry a monster like Lex?
Great job Chloe!!!! She told Clark that he had done a great job but what about her???
I really love Chloe but I cannot understand her in this way!!!

What, exactly, was Chloe supposed to do?

She has warned Lana countless times about Lex's dark side. On each of those occasions, Lana has either,

1. Ignored her.

2. Gotten mad at her.

Again, what else could Chloe do?

Also, it's not Chloe's job to save Lana from her own bad decisions. All she can do is give Lana the facts (which she has tried to do) and let Lana make her own choices (which Lana did).

The only thing Chloe really could've done was refuse to be Lana's maid of honor in protest. But that would hardly have stopped the wedding. And Chloe chose, instead, to be there for and support her friend in whatever Lana chose to do.

mobiusklein
03-19-2007, 11:16 AM
Lana is just a twat that way. She resented Nell for years for not being a perfect mother to her so it's in character for her to resent Chloe for not being a perfect friend to her.

dcf
03-19-2007, 11:19 AM
If I were Lana I'd be more pee'd off that LIONEL knew! :lol: When he called her on knowing Clark's secret she must have felt like a real idiot-the last to know...

Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
03-19-2007, 12:15 PM
I don't think it will change anything between them, but maybe a little resentment is understandable, but certainly not for long. If I were Lana, that would hurt me a little bit, but I wouldn't dwell on it at all.

lillie_poo_pod
03-19-2007, 12:44 PM
Like BadToad said it won't change anything, but it should.

The writers would never go with making Lana look bad in the eyes of the other characters. No one ever calls Lana on her sh!t. I don't even think they will have Lana admit that she was the one that locked Chloe in the cooler.

mobiusklein
03-19-2007, 12:46 PM
Lana will get away with it and nobody will ever find out. She could cut Chloe up into pieces and they'd have the pieces sing her praises.

InLove_with_Chloe
03-19-2007, 12:58 PM
If Clark finds out that Lana knows, then where will that leave Chloe???

InLove_with_Chloe
03-19-2007, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Dannyblue1
What, exactly, was Chloe supposed to do?

She has warned Lana countless times about Lex's dark side.
I agree.
She should not care anymore...

TheRowdy
03-19-2007, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
Like BadToad said it won't change anything, but it should.

The writers would never go with making Lana look bad in the eyes of the other characters. No one ever calls Lana on her sh!t. I don't even think they will have Lana admit that she was the one that locked Chloe in the cooler.

I can't see Lana fessing up to the whole wine cellar incident either - not to Chloe OR Clark. She'll be like "Oh Clark, I didn't lock your best friend in the wine cellar so I could use her to find out your secret, I just magically came up with all by myself after all these years!"


Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
If Clark finds out that Lana knows, then where will that leave Chloe???

He'll probably think its like the bestest thing in the world that the love of his life now knows his secret and Chloe will become like "a 3rd wheel" again and TPTB will probably find some retarded way to get rid of her. :mad:

No, I'm not bitter. :lol:

myankskent
03-19-2007, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
If Clark finds out that Lana knows, then where will that leave Chloe???

Well that's the interesting thing. How will TPTB balance out both girls knowing the secret?

BULLITT
03-19-2007, 01:12 PM
When Chloe manifests her kryptonite power - Lana is toast.

InLove_with_Chloe
03-19-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Well that's the interesting thing. How will TPTB balance out both girls knowing the secret?
My bet would be that Clark doesn't find out that Lana knows, until the very end of SV...
That might be an interesting constellation.

Considering how much TPTB love Lana, she will most likely be the secret protector of CK...

RedKRules
03-19-2007, 01:52 PM
:lol:

smallvillefreak24
03-19-2007, 02:59 PM
I'm not sure but I seriously hope they address the issue because sometimes they ignore stuff like that, but i'm excited to find out

foreversmallville
03-19-2007, 03:12 PM
I don't think Chloe knowing the truth and Lana just now finding out will change anything. If anything it will bring them closer as friends.

The truth is that Chloe, as a woman now, knows that Clark's heart belongs to Lana. Clark's heart has never really faltered from Lana at all during the 6 seasons. Chloe has proven to be Clark's best friend...and Lana will appreciate that.

Clark kept the woman he loves from the truth to protect her...but he admitted the truth to his best friend when she confronted him.

I'm actually hoping that next season the two women in Clark's life have to save him every now and then. LOL!

samanta
03-19-2007, 03:12 PM
It won't change anything. That's how is Smallville. I think Clark will find out that Lana know in the end of season 6. And next season will be more about Lana knows secrect and Chloe adjusting to her new power. This issue for Lana and Chloe won't be even mention.

nickyjean_1
03-19-2007, 04:09 PM
Ok, I already know many of you won't agree with me .. but I'm gonna say it anyway.. I thought it was a good attempt at depth for this eppisode.. so I thought it was ok.. and a really good try..

Also in respect to Chloe wanting to be everyones friend and not judging.. wanting Clark to move on.. that was prior to her beliefe that Lex kidnapped her.. and also her insistance that Lana check things out for herself and she has continued to question lana in private about her choice but in public stands by her friend.... Now that she truely believes Lex is a monster.. and that recently Clark hadn't really given up.. I'm thinking that when she got locked in the cellar she used it as an excuse to call him and find out where his head was at..

Lana obviously wasn't happy as a blushing bride should be and Chloe did think in the back of her mind that Clark being the hero that he was would rescue lana even if from herself "Lana's not my hero clark you are.. " Chloe hoped Lana would be strong enough but doubted, Clark she believed would follow through if for no other reason that both Chloe and he believe Lex is evil .. not just a mean guy.. or the wrong choice.. But that's just what I think .. and I kind of liked the eppy..

RPMSDB
03-19-2007, 08:05 PM
I know Chloe can take care of herself. That's obvious, she's done it for years now.

I just think Clark shouldn't have been moping and being SO concerned only about himself.

I still think he should have AT LEAST asked Chloe if she was okay. I know he was hurting, but good grief, if he's supposed to become Superman then he has got to stop his moping and move on already.

BadToad
03-19-2007, 08:43 PM
I still think he should have AT LEAST asked Chloe if she was okay.

Okay with what? About what? Chloe seemed perfectly fine. Where would this supposed inquiry take place? Since they only have 1 scene together in the episode.

If you don't think Clark should've been so darned mopey, no arguements from me. You want him to move on? Me too. But I'm not sure how he did anything wrong in relation to Chloe. Was it the way he sped right over to get Chloe out of the Luthor mansion wine cellar that showed his lack of concern? Or the fact that he didn't seem to want to stick around and help Chloe deliver Lex's wedding present to Lana?

Did Chloe ask him if he was OK? No, and I don't care. Because I'm not sure why it would be a relevant sort of question in this episode anyway. IMO

Angelina2809
03-20-2007, 06:08 AM
Do you think Clark will tell Chloe? I think his trust and faith in her will tell her his pain! It always was good for him to tell things Chloe! Theiy are more than friends and I think he will talk about it. Maybe not now but he will!
And Martha? Well, I am not sure if he would tell her. Maybe......

ElVibo
03-20-2007, 06:11 AM
Tell Chloe what happened what?

Tell what?

Angelina2809
03-20-2007, 06:13 AM
What happened between him and Lana! That she said yes and than no!

I meant will tell Clark Martha or Chloe what happened?

InLove_with_Chloe
03-20-2007, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Angelina2809
That she said yes and than no!
She said 'yes' to what exactly?!?

aqgalaxy
03-20-2007, 07:33 AM
I think they are referring to Lana telling Clark to wait in the barn and him going to propose to her but she stood him up to go through with the wedding

InLove_with_Chloe
03-20-2007, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
I think they are referring to Lana telling Clark to wait in the barn and him going to propose to her but she stood him up to go through with the wedding
OK, I get it......but he did NOT propose, we should keep that in mind.
Well, he did to Shelby, but I guess legally that doesn't count.

svfan50
03-20-2007, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
OK, I get it......but he did NOT propose, we should keep that in mind.
Well, he did to Shelby, but I guess legally that doesn't count.



hahahaaaa.....:rotfl: :rotfl:
wait another 5-6 years.....it would also be legal by then..!!!!! ;)

Rhoda123
03-20-2007, 08:22 AM
Of course I think he'll tell Chloe. He has whined to Chloe about Lana for 6 seasons, why would he not whine to her about this? I'm sick of the whiney Clark. Its time for him to move on from Lana and get a life.. a real life..

Angelina2809
03-22-2007, 06:02 AM
What about Martha? Do everyone think he will tell Martha the truth? Chloe??? Yes, he will tell her! She is his best friend at all!
Maybe it ti time for Clark to let Lana go but deep inside of me I am still a Clana fan - I cannot help myself!!!! But I also would like a Chlark couple!!!!!

Angelina2809
03-22-2007, 07:05 AM
I agree with the fact that Lana had known that Chloe know Clark's secret ( in hydro) Lana told Chloe that she was pregnant and Chloe hadn't told Clark one word about it! And why??? 'Cause It was a secret between Chloe and Lana (and of course Lex) Lex told Clark about the baby!!! It is not easy for Chloe to hide Clark's secret and for the person she loves!!!! Chloe said that to Clark in hydro as he hugged her. Chloe is trying to hadle with everything and Clark's secret is a BIG secret to hide!!!! And Lana heard that Chloe pushed him ( in the wine cellar) to tell Lana the truth! Chloe said to Lana in season 5 that Lex is not good for her and she also said that to her in freak.
Chloe is a good friend who you can trust everything and it was not fair from Lana to ask Chloe what Clark's secret is ( in hydro).
A secret is a secret!!!! Lana msu know and respect that!!!
I do not think that Lana will blame Chloe if she every will tell Chloe what she saw and heard!
I am sure in the end of this season everything will come out!!!!
Oh yes, this will be a good episode!!!!
Chloe was always a good friend for Lana - even as Clark and Lana felt in love again in season 5! She always tried to feel happy for both!!!! What a real friend! To see them so happy must hurt Chloe but she tried to handle with this situation!!!!
Lana will understand Chloe and she will have respect for Chloe that she hide this secret! Chloe was ready to lose Jimmy because of Clark's secret! Chloe will always love Clark!!!! Poor Chloe!!!!