Special Effects of Promise.....

[superhippie2000]

What did you think of the effects in this episode?

[Raging Clue]

The effects with the steel door in the wine cellar were pretty good. Stegnth, heat vision, and speed within 30 seconds. Not bad.

[wski440]

Yea, those effects were good, but the special effects department forgot to add the speeding clark when he ran from the cellar from lana's point of view

[jayrodss7]

did anyone notice the second time clark sped out of wine cellar... did they cut out the speed effect by mistake???

[myankskent]

That bothered me as well. Perhaps they were showing it from Lana's point of view where she just saw Clark disappear since she's not used to people superspeeding away from her? I don't know.

[coasterprincess]

i think it was on purpose....Lana wouldn't know what she was looking at...so it would just come off like he disappeared into thin air.

Still i guess we'll see if they change it for the DVDs to know for sure.

[stealingclark]

Originally posted by wski440
Yea, those effects were good, but the special effects department forgot to add the speeding clark when he ran from the cellar from lana's point of view

Yes, I noticed that as well. "POP!" and hes gone, no streaks.

[bball44j]

Is it just me or did it look like Clark moved faster during superspeed in this episode. Like the second time Chloe was talking to Clark and Lana saw him speed away you couoldn't see anything. Then when he left the barn the bac tracks were white and looked faster.

[graydogg51]

I noticed that too. It looks like he just disappears into thin air and then someone blows a puff of wind into Chloe's hair.

[Routh]

They never change the DVDs from what actually aired. They don't have to, in this case.

We were in Lana's POV, and normal humans can't see the blur. It was very intentional, and I thought it was a nice touch.

The rest of the episode sucked Shelby's balls, though.

[HowardFilms]

LOL, they run out of VFX budget for this episode? I thought my TV just glitched and skipped a couple frames (I was running a couple minutes behind on Tivo)

[Dark Knight23]

Yeah i was wondering about that too. Maybe they ran out of money for the effect. Who knows?

[bball44j]

For some reason I think that Clark's speed has increased because when he left the barn to the wedding his bactracks were white, not the usual blur and it looked like he moved faster.

[Cool_Breeze]

or maybe its how the speed effect is seen by observers

[bball44j]

No I think they were just showing it from Lana's perspective, she can't see the blur.

[meteor_phreak]

Originally posted by bball44j
For some reason I think that Clark's speed has increased because when he left the barn to the wedding his bactracks were white, not the usual blur and it looked like he moved faster. he was wearing a white shirt, as opposed to dark flannel like usual.

on the original post, though...that wasn't the worst part. the words changed, and the way they said it changed. very tacky to me.

[smallville86]

the backtracks were white because of his white shirt. the backtracks are always the color of whatever he is wearing

[mctor]

i think it was purposely done because clark is so fast and it was shot from lanas perspective.it seemed they were showing he was faster than a speeding bullett so lana didnt get to see the bullett time effect they usually use, she just saw him disappear

[bl24ndon]

It was definately done to be shown from Lana's point of view

[graydogg51]

Originally posted by myankskent
That bothered me as well. Perhaps they were showing it from Lana's point of view where she just saw Clark disappear since she's not used to people superspeeding away from her? I don't know.

I think there have been several times during the show that the camera angle was someone's point of view and they could see the blurr. I think its just an editing mistake.

[wellluv]

it was weird...jaja

[nathanjamesk1]

i think it was shot from Lana's prespective.

since Clark can run off so fast he's poof gone to normal untrained eyes.

so, not only did they do good (IMO), they saved money for another epy.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Routh
We were in Lana's POV, and normal humans can't see the blur. It was very intentional, and I thought it was a nice touch.

Yes, that was a nice touch.


The rest of the episode sucked Shelby's balls, though.

Ah, so that explains the hair in my teeth.

[Lexgirl33]

I agree with what everyone said about humans not being able to see him when he runs. Hence why its slow motion when he runs ( His POV) because humans cant see him move that fast

[jimmyolsenblues]

yes the screwed up the speed away moment from the wine cellar.

[stealingclark]

Originally posted by bball44j
For some reason I think that Clark's speed has increased because when he left the barn to the wedding his bactracks were white, not the usual blur and it looked like he moved faster.

I thought it was white because he had a white dress shirt on....

usually its redish blue because he's always in the same dopey outfit.

[regex_1]

Him disappearing was not a screw up and I think it was awsome that they showed it from Lana's perspective. Do you really think that they would let something like that through. I don't think so.

[stealingclark]

Originally posted by Nospam


Yes, that was a nice touch.



Ah, so that explains the hair in my teeth. [/B]


OMG!!! too funny!

[ScaledKryptonite]

I agree with the opinion of it being from Lana's POV. He moved so fast that from her perspective he disappeared. Excellent touch IMO.

I doubt it could of been an editing mistake cause someone would of caught it.

[Smallville's Oracle]

Not as many special effects this time around. I was shocked no Meteor rocks were used in this episode.

[fasterthenflash]

clarks faster then a bullet u dont see waves come off a bullet, so it just lana pov his to fast to be seen

[Resentment]

Anyone remember Chloe's POV when Clark caught the car and showed him speed off and her reaction of him running at those speeds? I sure do...

[Radioflyer]

I liked it, but for a moment I thought it was a mistake. But then I thought it was very unlikly they forgot to put it in.

I guess it didn't occur to them to omit the blur effect for Chloe's moment of discovery. The blur is probably for our benefit, an observing character wouldn't see it. Superman wouldn't be seen much speeding off either unless he's landing or catching an aircraft or something. If they followed this logic in the movies we'd miss out on some pretty cool flying shots.

[HighPotency23]

yea, that is a good point, because when i saw that, I didn't know what to think... but about him in his barn when he was waiting for lana, I think he was actually in more of a hurry than usual because of the circumstances...

[Your.Master]

There was an early episode where he supersped in front of everybody at the front of smallville high. Nobody noticed.

Or the one with Mr. Mxyzptlk, where he's the centre of attention on the football field, and it he superspeeds around to save Chloe and beat the crap out of Mr. Mxyzptlk before going back to take his place on the football field.

Human beings can't see the motion blur. Usually we're given a sort of omniscient perspective and we can see it, even when the relevant characters cannot. But here just about everything was viewed through Lana's eyes.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

Originally posted by stealingclark
Yes, I noticed that as well. "POP!" and hes gone, no streaks.


It kind of reminded me of my Harry Potter days when I used to read about people apparating, hehehe.

[Mr. Wrong]

Routh, I think you are being to kind!!

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
Routh, I think you are being to kind!!
I think he is too.

[shadow4486]

if you remember Perry from Season 4, when Clark had a burst and ran at superspeed, Perry said that it looked like he disappeared. And In Reckoning when Lana was killed, Lex just saw Clark appear on the road.

We only see the streaks because the viewer is supposed to see them to illustrate the speed. But streaks don't happen in real life. Lana saw his speed like Chloe sees it. I don't even think people can see the heat vision either.

[pissedoff]

I still think it was a mistake, and if it wasn't and they meant to do that then it goes against everytime he has sped away, rather it be someone watching him do it or a camera catching it and seeing a blur.

What about the wind gust that he puts off they didn't even show that.

[Necrorectumonomicon]

I think it was a mistake. Humans can see blur. Try shaking your hand as fast as you can in front of your face, you'll see some blur.

[Fusionoma]

Originally posted by pissedoff
I still think it was a mistake, and if it wasn't and they meant to do that then it goes against everytime he has sped away, rather it be someone watching him do it or a camera catching it and seeing a blur.

Those times it was still our point of view. In this case it was specifically Lana's. I personally think that is a mistake too big to be missed in editing.

[svsabbiesv]

Yea the whole effect thing in the cellar was due to we were seeing it through Lana's eyes, and we wouldn't see anything,
when we saw Chloe find out and we saw the effect it was because we were watching Chloe and Clark,
I think that was great!


Originally posted by pissedoff
I still think it was a mistake, and if it wasn't and they meant to do that then it goes against everytime he has sped away, rather it be someone watching him do it or a camera catching it and seeing a blur.

What about the wind gust that he puts off they didn't even show that.

yes they did, they showed Chloe hair flip as if wind passed by..how did you not see that lol


Originally posted by shadow4486
if you remember Perry from Season 4, when Clark had a burst and ran at superspeed, Perry said that it looked like he disappeared. And In Reckoning when Lana was killed, Lex just saw Clark appear on the road.

We only see the streaks because the viewer is supposed to see them to illustrate the speed. But streaks don't happen in real life. Lana saw his speed like Chloe sees it. I don't even think people can see the heat vision either.

yea im not sure either, but in Lana's case we did. I would think you would be able to see it bc haha one day your gonna walk through Superman heat vision and be burned..
haha:rotfl: :rotfl: :lol: :lol:

[ClarksGal]

Originally posted by Radioflyer
I liked it, but for a moment I thought it was a mistake. But then I thought it was very unlikly they forgot to put it in.

I guess it didn't occur to them to omit the blur effect for Chloe's moment of discovery. The blur is probably for our benefit, an observing character wouldn't see it. Superman wouldn't be seen much speeding off either unless he's landing or catching an aircraft or something. If they followed this logic in the movies we'd miss out on some pretty cool flying shots.

Yeah, I can almost picture someone in the editing room, saying "hey, you know what? Leave off the blur this time...this is from Lana's view! That would be cool, huh????"

[Mandini]

Originally posted by wski440
Yea, those effects were good, but the special effects department forgot to add the speeding clark when he ran from the cellar from lana's point of view

Yup I saw it, a oopsy I would say.

[Radioflyer]

Originally posted by shadow4486
if you remember Perry from Season 4, when Clark had a burst and ran at superspeed, Perry said that it looked like he disappeared. And In Reckoning when Lana was killed, Lex just saw Clark appear on the road.

We only see the streaks because the viewer is supposed to see them to illustrate the speed. But streaks don't happen in real life. Lana saw his speed like Chloe sees it. I don't even think people can see the heat vision either. I agree with you to a point. Indeed bullets cant be seen by the human eye. But in many circumstances things traveling very fast are often described as just a blur. I would assume Clark varies his speed from time to time and sometimes he runs just slow enough to be seen as a blur. I would expect that "slow" is still pretty fast for most situations.

[HnK]

Originally posted by bball44j
For some reason I think that Clark's speed has increased because when he left the barn to the wedding his bactracks were white, not the usual blur and it looked like he moved faster.

Perhaps it was cause he wore a WHITE shirt as opposed to the red jacket which give a red blur, idiot shelby-molester

[bobser]

For those saying the second Clark super-speed scene was somehow accidentally messed up, I think you are making us fans seem dense.

It seems the purpose was to show us Clark's abilities from Lana's point of view. For a guy who can sprint to Mexico with the Flash in a short period of time, odds are you wouldn't see even a blur if he is maxing out. That scene was to illustrate the point.

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by bobser
For those saying the second Clark super-speed scene was somehow accidentally messed up, I think you are making us fans seem dense.

It seems the purpose was to show us Clark's abilities from Lana's point of view. For a guy who can sprint to Mexico with the Flash in a short period of time, odds are you wouldn't see even a blur if he is maxing out. That scene was to illustrate the point.
Exactly. The producers didn't run out of money. They didn't forget to add it. 99.9% of the time, we see Clark's super-speed from out point of view. From someone else's point of view, unless they are right next to him, they don't hear or see anything. Lana saw Chloe's hair blow, so she knows what happened. Just imagine if Clark made such a loud noise that everyone in a room could hear him. Don't you think he would have been caught by now?

[Radioflyer]

Originally posted by bobser
For those saying the second Clark super-speed scene was somehow accidentally messed up, I think you are making us fans seem dense.

It seems the purpose was to show us Clark's abilities from Lana's point of view. For a guy who can sprint to Mexico with the Flash in a short period of time, odds are you wouldn't see even a blur if he is maxing out. That scene was to illustrate the point. Then again Lana has been hit in the head so many times maybe the blur doesn't register.

[[dec]]

Originally posted by Raging Clue
Just imagine if Clark made such a loud noise that everyone in a room could hear him. Don't you think he would have been caught by now?
Excellent point, he has done that many times with people pretty close to him & not noticed. I've always thought of it like this; There is no sound in space, but yet Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica has lots of sound in space. I has it because it would be a little boring with out it. (I have to note one of my favorite shows, FireFly, worked great without sound in space)

I caught on to the POV shot right away & thought it was very cool. Like the space thing, without any whiz-bang when Clark does his thing it'd get a little boring after a while.

[sierramoon131]

I would buy off on the lack of blur from Lana's POV if it didn't look so "incomplete." It looks like the director yelled cut, and they shut off the film. They could have given us (and Lana) ... something...

Also, I compare first encounter in cellar with repeat encounter(with Lana watching) and it's not the same exact taping. The script was read a complete second time, because the first time through, it's a little quicker, not as somber. The second time through, it's a little more emotion. Maybe it was done purposely since it was from Lana's POV, or maybe the actors did a better job the second time around.

I would have like to see Lana's eyes filled with tears as she looked out the back of the limo at Clark. We know she was feeling emotion. Would've like to seen a hint (although a tear down the cheek might be too much.)

[ColdKryptonite]

Clark disappearing was not an editting mistake, god.
It was from Lanas point of view, it's suppose to be like that, jeez, put two and two together.

Oh, and sierramoon, i think you have a little too much time on your hands, heh.

[Mr. Wrong]

! A change is as good as a rest. The effect could have been on purpose or not. However, I want to know why CK would blatantly break in to the Luthor mansion, ignoring the fact that the whole place is under constant surveillance, and rip the door off of the wine cellar. We see him do a quick welding job on the hinge but ignores the fact that he had tossed the door handle away. That can't be explained away by Lana's POV. All of a sudden he's beyond caring who knows his secret. That could be explained because of his state of mind except that Lana has been sleeping with the enemy for so long now its doubtful he would be so emotionally distraught at the prospect of her marrying same.

[Greyfox]

at first i naturally thought it was a mistake, as were so used to seeing the streaks/blur when he runs off.

But imagine how many people work on the episode and watch it through before it finally airs, theres no way something like that wouldve been missed by everyone.

It also explains how clark just goes into superspeed when in a room full of people (interior of the daily planet etc)without getting seen.

As been said, i think its Lana's POV so even the blur's too fast for her, just sadly were so used to the blurred superspeed after all these years, without it it ended up looking like an effect had been missed out :o

[svsabbiesv]

it's funny that we are all still talkin about this lol
I keep watching it over and over, and you can just see chloe hair fling..i think it was awesome point of view, and it was such a wonderful way to portray how clark looks to everyone else

[kyl-el]

I thought the way they did Clark's super speed from Lana's perspective was awesome. Instead of making it look like they ran out of money, I thought it had a much more professional and profound effect. I'd like to see it more often to be honest.