Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of Promise? [Archive]

xHerox

03-15-2007, 07:18 PM

Honestly, I find it tough to give an episode a perfect 10. Doing so essentially means it was a flawless episode, and so far this season I've found something wrong with each episode - from minor annoyances to just bad plots.

However, this time, I have to give "Promise" a 10. I knew going in that it was going to be like "Reckoning", in the sense that this episode's events would have far-reaching consequences. What I found surprising was the structure of the episode even reminded me of "Reckoning", with the multiple plotlines and the same event happening more that once. At first I thought they may be trying too hard, and perhaps they did, but I thoroughly enjoyed this episode.

I've been saying for a long time how bad I though it would be if Lex and Lana actually got married. Well, they did, but I think it is really interesting how it sort of has "conditions". I can honestly say I have never been more excited to see the next few episodes of this show. I've found some of the romantic plotlines and build-up tedious throughout the season, but "Promise" made it all worth it. By far the best episode of the season (far surpassing "Justice", in my opinion) and one of the top five of the show.

Mackdaddy

03-15-2007, 07:19 PM

Yay! More moping Clark:rolleyes:

Darth Pipes

03-15-2007, 07:35 PM

10. Great, great episode. Easily the best of the season.

Lionel is back! He totally usurped power away from Lex. Lex's transformation to the dark side is almost complete but he's still not ready to surpass his father as the top villain.

Kid Collins

03-15-2007, 07:35 PM

I wasn't expecting much from this episode especially since it's about the Lexana wedding.

But I was very pleasantly surprised. I loved that the ep was from different points of view....Clark, Lana and Lex.

The acting was awesome, especially from Kristin, Tom, MR and of course John Glover.

But the best part was it moved the storyline forward with Lana finding out most of Clark's secret and Clark finally growing some and going after Lana!

And last but not least I loved the Clana in this ep. It reminds me why I like this couple so much....Kristin and Tom rock their scenes together!!

jimintn

03-15-2007, 07:37 PM

I guess I must be the only one that didn't care for it. I'm glad Lana FINALLY figured it out, but does this mean that the rest of the established Superman lexicon is going to be thrown out the window? Nowhere in the Superman universe does Lana marry Lex, nor does she have his baby/freak/puppy/whatever. (She actually marries Pete in the comics, but that's a whole other ball of wax). What's next? Clark joins a monastary, never marries Lois, never puts on the cape?

The writers of the show must know how many of us fans thought the whole Lana-Lex thing was absurd as is, and now this?

Very disappointed.
:mad:

coasterprincess

03-15-2007, 07:37 PM

Hmm...not bad but not amazing.

The Good
~ Clark....practicing proposing on Shelby...soo cute. I may not have wanted him to go after Lana at all, but it was done well enough that I wasn't annoyed by it.
~ Lex....MB's right...Lana has this boy whipped. He went from pure evil to so desperate and back again flawlessly.

The kind-of Bad
~Martha...she's not that close to Lex or Lana...def shouldn't have a place next to Aunt Nell at the wedding...it just didn't sit well with me

The Horrible
~The time jumping. Drove me INSANE!! Okay...it's 1pm...that means Lex and Lana have already had their dreams....Clark got Chloe out of the closet....but no one knows Lana's showing up yet...except for Lionel...or was that 2pm that they talked? *runs in circles*

Overall it was a solid if not amazing episode....7/10

paolinki25

03-15-2007, 07:37 PM

I didn't like it. It showed a very pathetic, weak version of Clark Kent. It pains me to say this, but I cannot see this boy turning into Superman one day.

do3mire

03-15-2007, 07:40 PM

I guess Clark will be all torn up like after JK's death and he'll let it all out in the next epi, and he'll get himself close to being killed, and Chloe will come rescue him. Damn, Clark!! You *are* a BDA. Why don't you just open your eyes?!!!

Sigh!!!

BlueNRed2

03-15-2007, 07:41 PM

Was disappointed in "Promise". It had some highlights but for the overall feel, i was not really impressed.

I'm glad Lana vs. Clark's secret has had at least a partial resolution. Was kinda weird having Lana set Chloe up to discover the truth. I liked the final scene between Clark and Lana, I could feel Clarks confusion and pain.

I always enjoy Lionel's scenes but threatening Clark's life after past events felt off kilter. I understand that his character is meant to keep fans confused as to his motives but .....hmm.

Didnt particularly enjoy the back and forth movement of time in the episode.

Anywho..

STFanatic

03-15-2007, 07:42 PM

Three points for the return of Shelby.
Three points for the return of MB in his full glory.
Minus four points for the time shifting BS.

I should have given it a higher rating for Lex murdering the doctor.

Solara_08

03-15-2007, 07:42 PM

Absolutely Amazing episode. You could just tell that a lot of thought/effort was put into it. Kudos to the writers. Above all I loved the emotions played out by all of the actors, especially Kristin and Tom. Wow!!!! And six years later, Lana finds out something. I'm glad that she was so accepting. Can't wait to see where Clana is going.

RJLCyberPunk

03-15-2007, 07:42 PM

This episode was pretty darn good and it was also one of the darkest episodes in the franchise yet...
Let's see how long that sham of a wedding lasts...

BeldarofRemulak

03-15-2007, 07:43 PM

I waited 1 month for this?! It was horrible. I hated the beginning was really corny..eery one seemed out of charater and weird. I didnt know what the H was going on and blah it was just bad. I only like MB's parts. I think he was actually trying to do right by his son, knowing that if she didnt shw he would truly loose it.

Tomsgurl88

03-15-2007, 07:46 PM

This episode BLEW ME AWAY!!!!! I'm telling you, this has been my favorite episode so far!!! The directing was excellent, the acting was BRILLIANT, especially Michael who gave me chills during that scene where he put the doctor in the crypt, absolutely AMAZING!!! Seeing a taste of how dark Lex will come was amazing and heartbreaking at the same time:( I don't think it's hit me yet that Lana finally knows, but the scenes between her and Clark were heartbreaking as well. Overrall i LOVED it, not to mention how adorable was the Clark and Shelby scene!!!!!:D but to whoever didn't watch the show, really missed out!!!

wolverine316

03-15-2007, 07:47 PM

Awesome episode. Lex is a little beyootch. MB rules!!! But I have to say #$@% you Chloe. You rip into Clark about giving up but yet you are allowing Lana to marry a "monster". Some maid of honor and best friend you are. Again to reiterate #$@% you Chloe.

thehenry89

03-15-2007, 07:47 PM

i hated it from start to finish. i only like the luthours, thats it.

Ville317

03-15-2007, 07:48 PM

Gave it a 5. Would have been a 10 if the wedding never happened and Clark and Lana were back together. It's just Reckoning all over again only with a worse ending. Chloe put it correctly when she said "Lana is marrying a monster."

TWNurse

03-15-2007, 07:49 PM

I have to say I was very surprised by the epi. I really thought that TPTB were going to tease around Lana finding out Clarks abilities but never fulfill it. Whoa was I stunned. Now, Lana is sacrificing to protect Clark....what a turnabout. Overall, sets up for a whole alot different scenerios in the future. Sweeet!

STFanatic

03-15-2007, 07:52 PM

I hope Shelby didn't turn down Clark, much less hide his rubber ball so Clark can't bounce it off the wall in the loft.

Time for more Super-moping.

Jack-El49

03-15-2007, 07:53 PM

I gave it a 10 - my first 10 rating - even though I hated that Lana married Lex. I would have thought that the better plot was to leave him hanging, go to Clark, tell him what Lionel said, and then let Clark confront Lionel. That would have been "super".

Acting, the different POVs going in, the opening, the ending - all superb. I think it was by far the best episode of the season and one of the top 5 or 10 episodes of the series. It was hands down far better than Reckoning, although there was a similar feel as others have said.

Now, I only hope that unlike Reckoning, they don't drop the ball on all of this and make this abomination of a marriage some big secret issue that stays as a wedge between Clark and Lana.

I am a Clana fan. I want them to get back together with Lana knowing everything about Clark but together only as friends, working against the Luthors.

Given the spoilers of upcoming episodes, I can only hope that this idea of Lana and Lex being married has a gratifying ending to a really ill-conceived arc. I hope the marriage is as short-lived as last season's romantic and happy Clana arc was.

BeldarofRemulak

03-15-2007, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by wolverine316
Awesome episode. Lex is a little beyootch. MB rules!!! But I have to say #$@% you Chloe. You rip into Clark about giving up but yet you are allowing Lana to marry a "monster". Some maid of honor and best friend you are. Again to reiterate #$@% you Chloe.

ummm I have to say that makes no sense. She has warned lana on many occasions...Pushed Clark, the only one who could truly stop Lana, into telling her the truth, etc. Plus if she did say anything Lana had to go through with it anyways and would blow Chloe off... so tell me why you would say !@$# you Chloe?

bball44j

03-15-2007, 07:54 PM

It's a good thing that they didn't dance around the whole Lana finding about Clark's abilities thing. Great episode totally surprised me even though I said it was going to be underrated. I give it a 10 best episode this season.

quietone

03-15-2007, 07:59 PM

For the most part I liked it mainly because it wasn't some cutesy wedding ep but a dark one. TW, MR, and even KK turned in great performances. Lionel was Magnificent. Clark proposing to Shelby was hilarious. Evil!Lex murdered someone. They even mentioned Jonathan Kent and that was a great callback to his watch.

What I didn't like was the continuing regression of Clark in regards to the Clana. It's time to let this go. PLEASE. What happened to the Clark from Fallout who was about accepting his destiny? Can we have him back? I'm begging. Also, did not like Chloe or Martha cheerleading for Clana.

Finally, I cannot stand how Lana has yet again been made into a martyr. Poor Lana, she has been manipulated into marrying Lex instead of her true love Clark because Lionel threatened Clark's life and it's up to Lana to make sure Clark doesn't die. blech

SaberFireTiger

03-15-2007, 07:59 PM

Hated it. Painful to watch.

Pete Tha Bo$$ Ross

03-15-2007, 08:02 PM

give it a 9

great ep, interseted to see what will happen with lionel's blackmail to lex and lana.

TheLegendComesToLife

03-15-2007, 08:02 PM

I hate to throw any of the negative opinions out the window, but this was for me the single best Smallville episode I have ever seen. I am Smallville-obsessed as I think about it all day long and I have to say that "Promise" kept my heart racing at certain points and my attention throughout. I could write an essay on how spectacular it was, but I have to do something for college right now. This was just so amazing... I almost cried so many times... Just wow... In MY eyes, if you didn't feel taken away by "Promise," I don't even know how you can be typing on these boards tonight. The true Smallville fan would know I'm right.

lanekent08

03-15-2007, 08:09 PM

It was a surprising episode to me... I never expected Lana to learn Clark's secret that way.... I hated that she broke his heart (once again), I'm not a Clana Fan... now Clark's gonna be depressed and I hate seeing him that way. Thank God Lois is back next week and there will be some action to bring him down to earth.
I really hope Clark MOVES ON now... he's still expecting something that will never happen... Lana's not the one for him... let him open his eyes onece and for all... he's not in love with her, he's obsessed about her.
And I'm sure that some of you agree with me too!

Joekur

03-15-2007, 08:09 PM

I'm just glad Lana doesn't think Clark is a Weenie/Jerk/Whatever anymore.

Lana is making a huge sacrifice. For the first time, I'm really proud of her.

I was frustrated at the episode, but in a good way. It was well done all around. I was lost at first, but perhaps that was by design. I found myself satisfied (Lana seeing Clark's abilities) and wanting more (NO! Lana CAN'T be married to Lex! AIRGH! - where's the punchline?)

I found myself well entertained.

seraphim

03-15-2007, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Lexgirl33
gave it a 6 only because Lana saw Clark use his powers. Other than that..it was dull IMO. Hopefully next week will be better

Oh yeah..and Im loving evil Lex, glad hes here to stay

That's the same rating I gave for the same reason....everything else seem to be happening too fast and all at once.

Lax-ur

03-15-2007, 08:10 PM

Lex witnesses Lana, Lionel, and Chloe all die in a tragic elevator accident that is caused by Clark. Martha goes back to being the only one who knows Clarks secret. Lex blaming Clark with unfathomable hate becomes the familar Lex Luthor we all know and love, with the soul purpose of destroying Clark Kent and all he stands for!! Oh wait, ...that was Superman, right? Well, shoot, it will be very challenging for all those writers to tie all this in with the final storyline we have been waiting for since this show began. I wish them luck with all that.

SuperFan85

03-15-2007, 08:11 PM

I really loved how the episode was structured. Reminded me of the structure of a Tarantino film

__jb

03-15-2007, 08:11 PM

This was a stunning episode... I gave it a 10.

I liked it... I hated it... I loved it...

Lex has turned into a winy chump... Lionel has turned to the dark side again with a vengeance... I wonder if he will still try to suck up to Martha and Clark after this performance... I suppose so, why not.

Felt sad for Clark... He doesn't know that Lana knows or, more importantly, what she sacrificed for him... Certainly a roll reversal from the actions in "Reckoning."

Very good episode. People will be talking about this episode for a long time.

Markd329

03-15-2007, 08:11 PM

What a WICKED episode. Lana finally figuring out Clarkie's secret, Lex's sloppy murder of the good Doctor, THE RETURN OF THE MAGNIFICENT BASTARD, LIONEL LUTHOR, and all of the DAMN lies everybody told to each other made this SMALLVILLE episode incredible [but it still can't hold a candle to "Justice"].

Now the episode has left with some comples questions being asked:
1]Now that Lana knows Clark's secret, what will she do with the knowledge?
2]We all know that Lana will get back at Lionel for what he did to her, but how will she get her revenge?
3]What's the deal with the baby? Is the baby an unholy result of one of Lex's experiments?
4]What is Lionel's true motive? Protecting Clark's secret? Power games with Lex? He definitely shows that he's back in the game and he's on top of it too.
5]Where will all of this stuff go to?

sphrkilo

03-15-2007, 08:14 PM

I agree on the fact that it was an awesome epie, but I gave it a nine for the simple fact that I would have been a whole lot happier if Lana hadn't married Lex. That aside, the rest was great. I wasn't bothered at all by the time jumping, which didn't confuse me at all. The only thing that confused me was the whole baby thing. I was hoping we would learn more tonight, but apparently we'll have to wait for the relative of Chucky (as someone mentioned earlier). Great performances from KK, TW, MR, and JG. I was near tears and heartbroken throughout the whole scene with Lana and Clark after the wedding. Still kind of depressed about that, since I've always been a Clana shipper. Hate evil Lex (in the sense that I'm glad he's finally almost all the way there and I feel I should dislike his evilness), and was quite shocked by the power shift between him and Lionel. Overall, I'm still reeling, and I'll probably watch it again in an hour or so. Loved it!!

shadowcat20x

03-15-2007, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by __jb
This was a stunning episode... I gave it a 10.
I liked it... I hated it... I loved it...

Totally Agree! I thought it was superbly done. Such huge show changing things happened.

But - it was heartbraking!!

I just want to ajoqeniFNWU: thq3hrnh!!!

you_smell_terrific

03-15-2007, 08:16 PM

I actually didn't like it. I'm very sick of Clana and I thought the whole set up of the episode was weird and confusing. Although I did like the intro in the beginning with Snow Patrol playing. Great acting but I thought a lot of the characters seemed very out of character. Lex just randomly killing someone bothered me, although from his reaction it almost appeared to be his first murder.

Lana kissed Clark which I didn't like, but her seeing him rip the door off and use his powers was cool. Also Martha sitting up front was very weird.

Clark proposing to his dog was really cute xD

I can't explain it very well but I just didn't like this episode :(

maybe thats because I had just gotten done reading "Stay With Me" a great Chlark fan fiction on the ff board so all this Clana was making me sick LMAO

cayayofm

03-15-2007, 08:18 PM

I think that this was probably the best episode of the season, however, that is not saying much since this season has been barely watchable.

First I have to admit that I am pleased and surprised that Lana knows Clark's secret, at this point of the series I thought that will never come.

At first the episode seemed to be all over the place with the time jumps, but after they showed us the scenes from the other point of view everything seemed to click into place and made the episode so much interesting.

Kristin's acting was better than usual, I point this out because I think her acting is frequently unconvincing.

Kudos to the writters for some continuity, starting with remembering Nell, the watch Jonathan left Clark, the tornado dream and watching Shelby is always a joy.

This is probably darkest episode of the series, wich I found really interesting because it was a weeding episode. I think that the episode setted up some interesting things that should make the final episodes rise above the poor first 2/3 of the season.

jhei

03-15-2007, 08:18 PM

It definitely deserved a good score. While some people, I absolutely know for a fact hate this episode, I liked it. It really had a dark atmosphere, advanced Lana's knowledge on Clark's secret, and opens up new possible plotlines. It just had a very reasonable and emotional plot, and it wasn't stupid... but of course there are the very biased people who will attack Lana for EVERYTHING she does. :(

s_q

03-15-2007, 08:21 PM

so shes giving birth to bizarro?

CallMeClark

03-15-2007, 08:22 PM

I had to give it a seven. The way they did the time frame was confusing and I didn't like it. :(

The episode had good content but I would have liked it better if we went through all the scenes at once not back and forth. That bugged the crap out of me.

loistickyfingerz

03-15-2007, 08:28 PM

I thought it was boring.

And I know it was clever, but it just seemed a bit too cliche that suddenly Lana is pushing Clark away because she is protecting him. Ho-hum.

I can't wait for this soap opera stuff to pass so we can get back to the Superman-stuff.

s_q

03-15-2007, 08:42 PM

im seriously sick of this clana business, he needs to move the **** on and get on with having wet dreams about lois

jarethmc

03-15-2007, 08:42 PM

Like Heddy H. this episode made me cry. I didnt enjoy the sadness, but I always love the show. I am indeed a loyal fan!

jimmyolsenblues

03-15-2007, 08:56 PM

i loved this episode.
i was truly depressed for clark.
yes i know he should move on.
yes i know lana is not a great person.
but you know what , I love the big dumb alien.
I trash clark's moves all the times.
But today he got his heart broke again and that makes me sad.
Clark really looked happy when lana said she would not marry lex.
Clark really was happy when she kissed him.
Then to get his hopes dashed.
It was painful.

warriorrenegade

03-15-2007, 08:58 PM

I don't know what to say about the episode. I just don't ...its so frustrating that after all these years Clark is STILL pinning for Lana. I thought he had moved on, but I was mistaken. I mean take the last scene for instance it echoes the final scene in the pilot episode. Clark pinning for Lana all be it without his trustee telescope. We've seen the merry go round before...its become tiresome. I actually almost fell asleep watching tonight, something thats never happend before. I kept looking at the clock on the TV to calculate how long I had to continue to sit through this or tuff it out for some good scenes "Thankyou John Glover, you never dissapoint" Still even he was OOC since when does Lionel give 2 ****s about how happy Lex is? Honestly the guy has tried to kill him numerous times and now , NOW he cares? Please. Back to Clark what happend to this guy? What happend to the confident " MAN" from early episodes this season. The same guy who secretly cleaned up Metropolis after the events of dark thursday. The guy who wants to round up all the Zoners and imprison/ expel them? They've got him proposing to a dog, a f***ing DOG. AAHHHRRGGGG!!! Its infuriating. I give the episode a 4 its only good parts were of Lionel's MB moments and the Combat trailer and thats it.

kd5aj

03-15-2007, 09:03 PM

An absolutely fabulous episode that captured the day's events in an incredible manner... Wedding days can be a blur of memories, second thoughts, wishes unfullfilled, and moments of a lifetime, all rolled into one incredible day. The writers captured it perfectly with a few hideous twists for good measure! Any good guesses on who is Lana's baby's daddy?? Hmmm Lex's own son in 33.1?? Only three guesses and names no longer than 3 letters please... Lex doesn't count! By the way, to change the subject, (and stir things up) Lana and Chloe just come off much hotter than Lois does at this point. We all know things change so, that's why we watch... Lionel was a bit more in character with his threat to Lana, glad to see things returning more in line with the comic storyline. All in all, great episode that kept me on the edge, exploring all the mental facets of a great story combined with a much anticipated wedding. The ultimate sacrifice of love pulled off by Lana, capped off with an excellent expression, her eyes never leaving Clark!

KM

BadToad

03-15-2007, 09:19 PM

I thought it was awful. I watch Smallville because I am a Clark Kent fan. This episode was just awful for this character. I don't watch Smallville for it to be a loving, worshipful homage to the character of Lana Lang. And thats precisely what this episode was.

Yes, there were some plot advancing things that happened in this episode, like Lana finding out Clark's powers, and Lex doing something unredeemably evil...but that just gets lost in the fact that 2 great, iconic characters are reduced to nothing for the greater glory of Lana Lang. A character that really doesn't deserve this level of importance.

On a technical level, I also thought the episode failed to distinguish itself in terms of writing, direction and editing.

But MR & TW put in decent performances, and JG was excellent.

And Shelby is the best thing about the whole episode.

Very disappointed in this episode, and this show right now.

Khyla

03-15-2007, 09:26 PM

MY GOD...i really just have to laugh at it!

I mean it's so OBVIOUS that they must have done some total re-editing, as no one in their right mind could have created such a poorly written episode!

Repeat scenes - totally unneccessary, just to fill up time,

and those stupid invitation-looking time-placards every other scene.

Complete out of character scenes - just haphazardly throw in.

It was an editor's joke!

a writer's nightmare!

Thank God for that SHelby scene. :lol: I think that said it all in showing us what an immature and ludicrous light this episode put Clark in.

It goes down in my book as a total "filler episode" , not worth re-watching.... Hell, it wasn't even worth watching the first time.

ForzaItalia

03-15-2007, 09:29 PM

I thought the episode had good writing, good directing and good acting, but it’s not telling the story of how Clark becomes Superman. In fact, it’s doing the opposite - it’s portraying Clark as someone so different than Superman…. I understand young Clark was a certain way when he was a kid in season 1. But by season 6, we should see him get closer to becoming Superman….. Stop crying! Get tough, Clark!

Smallville's Oracle

03-15-2007, 09:33 PM

Best episode this season and maybe since the tease a couple of years ago where Lana found out everything. Any episode that had me on the edge.........will they or won't they say "I do".

Now it is Lana's turn to protect Clark. I like the switcharoo.

Lionel totally has Lex over the barrel.

Also I think this is where Clark starts his journey to being Superman. With the love of his life gone he must focus on other things. Looks like from the previews he will be fighting Phantom Zone escapees.

STFanatic

03-15-2007, 09:46 PM

I said it before and I will say it again.
Raya died in vain.

greysfan511

03-15-2007, 09:47 PM

I personally didn't like this one. The only good thing I think is that Lana finally knows Clark's secret. I thought the whole thing with Clark getting hurt and those looks that Tom is famous for were so heart breaking. I think that Lana shouldn't have married Lex. It was just cruel how Lana told Clark she wasn't marrying Lex and that she'll meet him at the barn, then she doesn't show up and then marries Lex. The whole episode was a BIG dissapoint in my view. Lana knowing was great, but everything else mad me mad, sad, and my heart was breaking. Any one alse agree?

LuthorKent90

03-15-2007, 09:49 PM

I liked it, the beginning was a bit confusing though.
And Lex killing the doctor! :eek:

Smallvilledabest

03-15-2007, 09:51 PM

I love it

ClarksBaby

03-15-2007, 09:57 PM

i wan't very impressed with this episode, but there were a few good scenes.. like the lionel and lex slap. thats pretty much about it though. sappy mopey pathetic clark makes me want to chirp my chips all over my laptop. and the whole martyr lana (the fact that she only married lex to 'protect' clark) angle made it worse. some of those scenes made me want to cry though.... but still all the out of character nonsense that went on in this epi. was just too much.

im tired of character 180's! :eek:

youandme

03-15-2007, 09:58 PM

I loved this episode! so so sad. NOt the best episode but one of saddest next to Reckoning!

LuthorKent90

03-15-2007, 09:58 PM

Loved it or Hated it. Why are the options "Yes" and "No"?

paolinki25

03-15-2007, 09:59 PM

I didn't like it. I didn't like the way the characters were portrayed in this episode, and how it all makes Clark look.

artemis_x

03-15-2007, 10:01 PM

Lana has really been irritating me the last season or so. I just wanted the writers to kill her off... But after this episode I have a new respect for her. I thought she was so whiny and whimpy, but giving up her happiness to save Clark is huge. I was in stun when she did it. I'm pretty impressed with her and pleasantly surprised. I wonder what will happen now that she know part of his secret though?

nyczwillz

03-15-2007, 10:01 PM

isnt there a sticky for this?

STFanatic

03-15-2007, 10:04 PM

I didn't love it nor did I hate it.
It was an OK filler episode, it had some key points that needed to be covered finally, but it was not the best or the worse.
MB was awesome as usual, Lex knocking off the doctor was great and to top it off Shelby was in this one too.

Oh, and the marriage thing too.

bluekryptonite8

03-15-2007, 10:10 PM

omg that was soo cool i mean what happen with clark and lana that there not going to be together is sad but still the episode is awesome, but now it feels weird that a lot of people know he secret before only parents, then Pet etc...

niki

03-15-2007, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Still even he was OOC since when does Lionel give 2 ****s about how happy Lex is? Honestly the guy has tried to kill him numerous times and now , NOW he cares? Please.

He obviously doesn't care. He's in it for control over Luthercorp or 33.1, we're not too sure yet. At the end it was so incredibly ominous, "You'll know when I'm here to collect." He just doesn't want Lex to bring down the Luthor name because of a murder and he wants to reap the benefits of saving his son from such humiliation.

Wheew ...

All that aside, I gave the episode an 8.
The time shifts confused the heck out of me at first, and then when I realized it I liked it but when I watched the same scenes over and over again it was a bit of a nuisance.

I would've given it a 6 if it was just that.
However!

+1 for Lana finding out a part of Clark's secret FINALLY after so many years of waiting!
+1 for Lex showing his dark side but also showing just how desperate he is because it's clear Lana is the only thing keeping him sane.
+1 for Clark proposing to Shelby.

Annnd finally, -1 for all the pining Clark moments.
They broke my heart ... and I hate crying during TV shows haha.
Soo, I gave it an 8!

Who

03-15-2007, 10:11 PM

Lionel is back baby!!!!!!
Also, Clark proposing to Shelby was great! Man's best friend!
The episode is very dark and depressing. Not my favorite for sure.
At least Lana knows Clark's secret now.
And they brought Nell back!

InLove_with_Chloe

03-15-2007, 10:11 PM

This would have been a very good epi in S2, maybe even S3..........but now???
You have got to be kidding me...

Mackdaddy

03-15-2007, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
This would have been a very good epi in S2, maybe even S3..........but now???
You have got to be kidding me...

I'm with you ILwC. Tptb just don't know when to give up the Clana. They should call the show "The Clark and Lana Show":rolleyes:

supersvfan

03-15-2007, 10:17 PM

Oh my god, this is by far the best episode in the whole SV history. Just watched it twice in a row, want to watch it again... such heartbreak, such unspeakable sorrow. TW and KK are pure magic!!!!!

Khyla

03-15-2007, 10:23 PM

Hey Mackdaddy, ILWC ! you guys, how can you even take that ep seriously? i'm still laughing about it...

And I wasn't drinking!... I thought something was wrong with the station programming when i saw several scenes replayed. WTF .. it was obvious there were last minute changes and re-writes to this one! please read my whole comment:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2896099#post2896099

christian_kryptonian

03-15-2007, 10:23 PM

What the heck are we answering yes or no to?? If the yes likeds it or yes didn't like it? Is the no did like it or no didn't like it. YOu did not specify so I will not vote until you do so.

InLove_with_Chloe

03-15-2007, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by Khyla
Hey Mackdaddy, ILWC ! you guys, how can you even take that ep seriously? i'm still laughing about it...

And I wasn't drinking!...
Funny that you say that - I was actually laughing most of the time myself.
:lol:

Originally posted by STFanatic
I said it before and I will say it again.
Raya died in vain.
I would go as far as to say S1-S5 were in vain...
:lol:

princesslaya

03-15-2007, 10:29 PM

....it was ok......I mean Lana finally finding out the truth, marrying Lex to save Clark.....that was good but it is just the triangle all over again!..what is gonna happen now?.........how long will they let lana being married to lex go on....and then she will go back to clark.....this season is giving me a headache.

Kryptoshelby

03-15-2007, 10:30 PM

there roles have now been reversed.... clark was protecting lana now lana is protecting clark..... by the end of this season im sure lana with be with out lex but not with clark.... since he will be too hurt from all this

hemmy

03-15-2007, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Hockeyking
What a joke! Chloe couldn't phone somebody in the mansion to let her out. She calls the one guy that isn't allowed in the house. Martha is such a b i t c h, happily ready to go to the wedding, without any loyalty to her own son. I was right so far about this crappy ep.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

Other than Lana, who in the mansion would she possible know the phone number of

This episode was good, and all the haters that are on this board should just leave, us who actually like the show don't like you here

Doomsday04

03-15-2007, 10:31 PM

I gave it a three. Only because I have seen worse. I just was expecting more from the episode where Lana finds out. I mean it was kind of anti-climactic. Also, I was never into the whole soap opera Lex and Lana thing going on. So I didn't really care whether she said "I do" or not.

InLove_with_Chloe

03-15-2007, 10:32 PM

Welcome to yet another episode of Lanaville.
What a pointless epi...

CountryGirl84

03-15-2007, 10:44 PM

I thought this was a fabulously well done and well written episode with good lines and great intensity. I'm just not sure if I like where its taking things. And some of the characters were inconsistent, like Martha. The whole Chloe speech yelling at Clark seemed a little off to me, I don't know why though. Anyone have insights as to why I felt this way about Chloe? :rotfl: :confused:

Atomic girl

03-15-2007, 10:46 PM

Wow, it seems you either loved it or hated with not many people in between.

If you were a fan of Lana learning the secret, then you were happy this episode, other than that (and I'm not in that camp) you were just in for the continuing unresolved soap opera called Clana....

Lana "sacrificing herself" at this point is almost laughable. She was so hurt by Clark when he denied loving her, then she turns around and does it too.

She couldn't call Clark on a cell phone and confirm that Lionel could actually hurt him. And if Lionel could actually hurt Clark, he can always use that same tactic some other time. Doesn't Clark deserve a heads up that Lionel was willing to use Clark's secret like that or even maybe in danger from Lionel.

She went through all this trouble to find out Clark's secret and then continues her own campaign of secret and lies. She's thinking pretty highly of herself to think she alone can save Clark, let alone anyone else. She's kidding herself if she thinks she holds any cards in the Luthor game plan... Her "sacrifice" came out more like a piece of information she will be able to use for her own benefit later on, than an unselfish gesture. If we're lucky, whatever Lana eventually uses the info to gain will also benefit Clark.

I can't say I liked it, and I can't say I like where this arc is headed.

These are my first impressions on seeing the episode, I hope upon another showing, I'll like it better.

bluekryptonite8

03-15-2007, 10:51 PM

In a way it was kinda not good how Lana figure out Clark's secret i thought it would be like (building falling and he picking up the building, or he superspeeds in front of Lana and shows hes that bullets dont hurt him) but poping out in a wine sealer saving cloe from the frost of death but the rest was cool.

I wonder what does Lional what, he as money, power, a little just a little action with Martha, what can he possible want lex practically offer all he got but refuse it but they way he said it you know im here to collect? Collect what ahhhhhhhhh i hate it when they leave it like a mystery like always but in a way is cool cause thats what makes it interesting.

STFanatic

03-15-2007, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by hemmy
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

Other than Lana, who in the mansion would she possible know the phone number of

This episode was good, and all the haters that are on this board should just leave, us who actually like the show don't like you here

Chloe + any electronic device = miracle

She could have called anyone in the whitehouse if she wanted :p

As for the people complaining about the episode not liking the "show"?
If we stopped watching it, it would go away.
Liking the show is the main reason to complain. If everyone takes the series as it comes, it could never get better.

And I am so hurt that those people don't like us.:(

citizenlen

03-15-2007, 11:01 PM

^^^^Welcome to the Anti-Lanaville.

trying2b

03-15-2007, 11:14 PM

Great episode!

cj_wow

03-15-2007, 11:19 PM

I absolutely hated this episode. It was rather choppy and used the same material over and over again for the different points of view. There seemed to be many commercial breaks in my opinion and the episode did nothing except move Lana completely away from the relm of possibility. I think KK is a great actress and I feel sorry for her, because I bet her character will be killed off soon, and smallville will end like the OC did after the loss of Barton. THis is my personal view.

STFanatic

03-15-2007, 11:21 PM

I am not anti Lana, I think Kristin has done a supurb job with the scripts she has been given, however, I do not like what they have done with the character of Lana, at first she was written rather vacuous, then they actually fleshed her out for a while, now she is being used as a constant plot device such as Lois Lane was in the comics and early TV series, someone who constantly needed to be rescued.
On Smallville she was originally used properly, someone for Clark to be nervious around, someone he later became coupled with during his highschool years.
Now, the writers have her set as the most important thing in Clark's life, The hardest thing in his life to deal with was to give her up? His father croaking was no big deal, it couldn't compare with that. Raya giving her life so that he could fulfil his destiny, no biggie. Inadvertantly releasng Phantom Zoners and them slaughtering humans (Batista killed all the people on the ship and more at the port) But giving up Lana, that was earth-shattering indeed.
Since the pilot episode I have been here rooting for Smallville, pushing it on my friends & family relentlessly, I will be here up to the finally and beyond.
I am not at all against the Lana character, I am against the writers using her in such a way that makes people dislke the character.

RMF

03-15-2007, 11:24 PM

They tried to hide it by getting all artsy-fartsy with us on the timeline, but this was pure soap-opera schlock, just like we were afraid it would be. This isn't Battlestar Galactica, folks, and they can't pull this kind of thing off. Really, every time they used this technique, it backfired on them, and revealed what a little sneak Lana really is. First time, you see Chloe get stuck in the wine cellar, which looks like bad luck. On the flashback, we see that Lana has tricked Chloe into the wine cellar, locked her in, and refuses to answer her cell phone call for help, just so she can hide and witness Clark's rescue. Well, I guess we should be glad she didn't drop Chloe into a pit of vipers. Second time we see it, we find out Lana's hiding things from Lex again, the man she's going to marry. Third time, we find out that she's not actually come around to accepting Clark unconditionally, she's accepting only because she now knows most of the secret. Not only that, she's going to run off on Lex, leaving him only a note. And she professes to love Lex.

The biggest problem I had with the episode, besides the general level of hokum, was huge, honking, glaring continuity errors. Gotta love that scene of Chloe tearing into Clark for not stopping the wedding, when she's been urging him to put on the tux and attend to show he's moving on. When Clark sensibly points out that Lana wouldn't be marrying Lex if she didn't want to -- you know, giving Lana credit for being an autonomous individual even though she's dumb as a post -- Chloe declares that Lana isn't her hero, Clark is. Lana is about to marry an evil man, and it is supposedly completely up to Clark to swoop in and save the day, and he isn't doing it just because he's just a big coward who's afraid to get hurt. Shall we count the ways in which this is dumb? Remember last year, when Clark worked up the courage to tell Lana his secret -- to stop her from getting involved with Lex, in fact -- and she died? Died because obsessive Lex scared the bejesus out of her when he realized she knew the secret, they got into a car chase, and it ended in tragedy? And when Clark tried to fix that, his father died instead? As a matter of fact, a small army of people have obsessed, lost their minds, murdered, died, or got locked up somewhere because of Clark's secret or their own similar ones. And Clark's reluctance to tell Lana now that she's closer than ever to Lex is somehow because he's afraid to get his feelings hurt?

Good God.

I have an idea for you, Chloe. Why don't YOU be a hero? Because after all, the problem here is not that Lana isn't marrying Clark, it's that she's marrying evil Lex. It's not Clark's secret that Lana needs to be told, it's Lex's. And you know Lex's secrets -- you know of the link between the LuthorCorp charity in "Rage" and the experiments on convicts. You know of the unauthorized transfers of patients from Belle Reve to Level 33.1 facilities. You know of meteor-freak abductions and experimentation. You know Bart was tortured by Lex. But there you are, mute, still participating in the wedding party as if things are just jim dandy. Is this completely sexist, misogynistic writing, or what?

But wait, that's not enough. Clark then has to go have a talk with Martha, who not two episodes ago told him to leave Lana alone, and ask her if it's possible that he invented reasons for not telling Lana because he was just scared. Clark? She died. Remember? Of course not. Martha tells him that she once broke off her relationship with Jonathan out of cold feet, but if she hadn't gotten back together with him, she would have lost everything she really cared about. Not that she's really bothered about that now that she's got a full-time role as Luthor arm candy, of course. So, yeah, Chloe and Martha end up with the noisome task of sending poor old Clark after fickle, manipulative Lana, because without them, we wouldn't have this Victorian gothic potboiler of a melodrama, would we?

We have dream sequences. Some of them work, some of them don't. Lana shouldn't still be putting the pieces together about being rescued by Clark, because she had that figured out in Freak. Clark's dream of stabbing Lex in the back and Lana impaling herself on the dagger makes no sense at all. It's just there for shock value.

The absolute dregs of the episode has got to be the part that was hyped to death before air time. Lex's big blasphemous descent into evil? Lex at his darkest? I ended up laughing my a$$ off because this church crypt is unexplainably equipped with dry ice and spooky organ music that plays while murders take place. And the murder is actually an accident. Yeah, Lex is whaling on the guy, but he dies when he falls and hits his head. It isn't even a proper deliberate murder. Lex has actually been far more evil this season for abducting, tormenting, and experimenting on meteor freaks than for anything he does in this episode. In fact, he has to have Lionel bully Lana for him.

And that brings me to the only enjoyable couple of minutes, which was when Lionel smacked Lex and shamed him for still having to have Dad fix things for him. It was a rare moment of sense in a contrived, overwrought episode, a brief moment of recognition of just how bad the Lexana storyline has been for Lex as a character. Go Lionel.

savemeclark

03-15-2007, 11:27 PM

I don't like that it seems that Clark now ends up with Lois in the end because Lana is married to someone else. Lois becomes the consolation prize. Athought a marriage doesn't seem to stop Clark from getting is last pleas in. It made me sick! I kept yelling at the tv for him to go home she's married and pregnant. Which by the way...why isn't she showing yet?! even remotely.

rstarters1

03-15-2007, 11:31 PM

My first post, and all I have to say is wow!!! This episode was so much more than the usual "filler-no-thriller" episodes that I'm sure most of you have become accustomed to, and because of the major twists that occured (lex murdering, lana finding out the truth--well maybe not the whole truth, lionel threatening to kill Clark) this could turn out to be THE episode of the season!

Rachel B

03-15-2007, 11:36 PM

This episode has got to be the most inconistent, ooc, boring episode of all time. i am usually very optimistic and I always see the arger picure but this? This made no sense whatsoever. Even Chloe my dear sweet Chloe, had me cringing this episode. I can honestly say that not one scene saved this for me.

STFanatic

03-15-2007, 11:41 PM

Welcome to the fold rstarters!

bigv

03-15-2007, 11:54 PM

Script error:
The first time around it was "If you don't know that then maybe you don't know me as well as I thought you did."
Second time around: "If you don't know that then maybe you don't know me at all."
Pay attention Al Gough and Miles Millar!

InLove_with_Chloe

03-15-2007, 11:56 PM

cloisinmyheart

03-15-2007, 11:58 PM

i loved it. i totally cried because i guess i secretly do root for clana. they were so close..and yet so far once again

InLove_with_Chloe

03-15-2007, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by cloisinmyheart
i loved it. i totally cried because i guess i secretly do root for clana. they were so close..and yet so far once again
Yeah, but isn't it getting a little old, after 6 years?!?
:\

msleggie

03-16-2007, 12:05 AM

The episode itself was awesome, this had to be one of the best. Actually, this entire season as been terrific! The actors are doing a wonderful job and they should keep up the good work! The only thing I didn't like was the outcome of it all. I don't know where they are taking this lex and lana storyline. Or any of the characters, all the twist and turns that are happening are both good and bad.

msleggie

03-16-2007, 12:10 AM

I gave it a 8. This was an excellent episode, expecially the acting, all he characters have come a long way since season 1. The only thing I didn't like was Clark's role and what Lana decided to do in order to protect him. Martha and Chloe also made me made.
Actually, the only person I enjoyed watching was Lionel. Nevertheless, I think it was one of the best episodes this season, even if the outcome was disturbing.

LanaKent113

03-16-2007, 12:31 AM

I give this episode a 9. This episode really pulled on your heartstrings!! The acting was excellent, specifically from Kristin and Tom. I was crying from beginning to end!! Even though from seeing the previews that it was highly unlikely that Lana wouldnt marry Lex, it was very obvious that she was struggling to do so. Even though there was a slim to none chance the wedding would be called off, I was still routing for Lana and Clark to run off together...I am a proud Clana supporter, and during the library scene I almost got my wish!! Sadly my wish didn't come true, but I am ok with the reason why she went through with the wedding, not because she loved Lex, but actually because she loves Clark and wanted to save him. I had to give props for lana for trying to protect Clark. I was always a fan of Lana since season one, but I wasn't so sure I was a fan of Lana this season, but she fully redeemed herself tonight with sacrificing her happiness to protect Clark, even though she devestated him, since she couldn't tell him what was going on...for that I still am alittle upset, but she had a valid reason, so how can you be mad? I am interested to see how things develope with the story now...so I say I wish Lex and lana a happily NEVER after, so she can get some sense and leave that monster, and get back to her life and make up with Clark, if not all the way atleast get back to being friends.

STFanatic

03-16-2007, 12:34 AM

I wonder how she will justify a "headache" throughout the entie honeymoon.
:lol:

All about Clark

03-16-2007, 12:36 AM

I was disappointed with the first half and happy with the second half. I guess I give it a 7.

MidgardDragon

03-16-2007, 01:09 AM

I liked it, I gave it an 8. I would've liked it a whole lot more had I not been starved for Smallville and read a bunch of spoilers and interviews though. I knew pretty much exactly what would happen based on all the spoilers and interviews, except for Lana officially knowing, but that was to be expected. Anyways, that's my own fault, and I rated the episode on it's merits. It's an 8, not the best ever but still up to snuff with what I expect from Smallville

smallvillerocks45

03-16-2007, 01:12 AM

I absolutely LOVED this episode. At times I found the episode heartbreaking, and I initially hadn't realized that we were seeing different people's points of view throughout the whole day, but other than that I thought Promise was great. It was bittersweet (because we know that Clark and Lana do have to move on, even if the Clana fan in me doesn't always want them to) and it has opened so many doors for future storylines, IMO. I'm excited to see what's going to happen next!

HighPotency23

03-16-2007, 01:18 AM

It was ok.. but I was expecting more due to the 3 week wait...

lanakk1

03-16-2007, 01:22 AM

Love it or hate it, the directing and editing were great.

one of the best shot episodes. from the music to the slow motion shot when Lex and Lana walked out the church, it was beautifully directed.

Naman is 1#

03-16-2007, 02:02 AM

Its was nice to finally see Lana learn Clarks secret. So I gave it a high rating. :D

Naman is 1#

03-16-2007, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Welcome to yet another episode of Lanaville.
What a pointless epi...

Awwww, com'on just because it's not Chloeville doesnt mean its pointless. Ya gotta admidt it was pretty nice after all these years of Smallville to see Lana finally learn about Clarks secret.;)

InLove_with_Chloe

03-16-2007, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by Naman is 1#
Awwww, com'on just because it's not Chloeville doesnt mean its pointless. Ya gotta admidt it was pretty nice after all these years of Smallville to see Lana finally learn about Clarks secret.;)
This has nothing to do with Chloe.
The epi was a pile of crap cause after 6 years Clark Kent still behaves like a moron. He hasn't learned anything at all. I am starting to suspect Krypton didn't blow up at all and his parents simply sent him to Earth cause he has an IQ of 25...

Naman is 1#

03-16-2007, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
This has nothing to do with Chloe.
The epi was a pile of crap cause after 6 years Clark Kent still behaves like a moron. He hasn't learned anything at all. I am starting to suspect Krypton didn't blow up at all and his parents simply sent him to Earth cause he has an IQ of 25...

Well its simply put atleast in my opinion Clark will always care for Lana but I think for the reason for his actions in this epi he just doesnt want Lana to be with Lex, I mean its drives him nuts just the thought of it because he knows what kind of a person Lex is. I can relate to it cuz I had a x-g/f who I broke it off with and then she turn around and went out with some who I couldnt stand and it really ate at me. Clark will always have feelings for Lana I dont think he'll completely let her go atleast not until Clois comes.

Naman is 1#

03-16-2007, 02:43 AM

I thought it was good, not the best epi of the season but I would put it in the top5 so far.

smallvillerocks45

03-16-2007, 02:52 AM

There is no way I could pick a top five (out of 100+ episodes; Yikes!)....but I know I really loved this episode. I want to see it again.

Fly by guy

03-16-2007, 03:14 AM

Excellent episode. KK is showing so much of herself with just a look. Why couldn't Lana just warn Clark about Lionel? Same reason Clark couldn't just warn Lana about Lex in Reckoning I guess?

boingo

03-16-2007, 03:44 AM

WoW....what an AMAZING episode!

I absolutely loved it!!! The unique writing (it threw me off at first but then I caught on)....The acting from everyone....The direction....everything was supurb!!! Words can't really describe all of the emotions I went through while watching...it definately left me wanting to find out how everything will begin to unfold.....can't wait!!

hansioux

03-16-2007, 03:51 AM

Speechless...

oh wait....

words are resurfacing...

omg, greatest episode of the season.

I sure feel like I was watching one of those season 4 or season 5 episodes. Great!

Detorio

03-16-2007, 04:40 AM

A good 9 to a 10. The entire episode had my stomach turning and wondering what was around the corner. I REALLY ENJOYED IT.

The suspence was superb and the way it manouvered from start to finish was brillaint. Freakin 9.5/10. :D

insdarebel

03-16-2007, 04:55 AM

Fantastic episode.....Lionel and Lex are evil incarnate.....Lionel gettin back to his roots...I actually wished he'd burn in hell after this episode......Clark can't catch a break and ya felt for him in this one........and for some reason after murdering the doctor dude in the crypt..I still feel sorry for Lex....what the hell is wrong with me.....course some of that love of this episode could have also been from the past weeks of repeats...Mr. Wellings and Ms. Kreuk's scenes were especially strong..

Krypton935

03-16-2007, 05:05 AM

HOLY SH!T!!! that is all I can say! 10 no doubt! that ep was amazing! I was SSOOOO close to crying during the one part with clark and lana but i held them back.
I liked how they did the episode how they like skipped around through the day showing other people's pov. I wouldn't want to see it every ep but this time it was magnificent. I was really impressed I thought this would be based around lexana but it covered everything i hoped to see and more!
Good Job Smallville!! You really came through!

SuperFan85

03-16-2007, 05:53 AM

was anyone else reminded of Lex beating Duncan to a pulp as he beat the crap out of the Doctor?

smvlladdict

03-16-2007, 05:58 AM

This episode made me cry! I like the fact that Lana knows his secret, but If I were her I would have spoken to Martha or Clark before walking down the aisle!

skywalker28

03-16-2007, 06:02 AM

The more I see episodes like this, the more I doubt that this Clark is going to become Superman. I was expecting this episode to be really bad, but instead it was meh.

+100, for Lex killing someone, Lana finally finding out Clarks secret and Lionel being Lionel again.

-95, for the rest of the episode and the lack of Chloe.

5, overall.

smvlladdict

03-16-2007, 06:04 AM

I like the fact that she's matured it's just a matter of time before she dumps Lex and follows her heart but it will be too late .......
because Clark will be gone to the fortress of solitude getting the rest of his education. I love Smallville and hate the Superman Movies!!

superman2001

03-16-2007, 06:04 AM

I thought The Episode was great, I,m glad Lana finally found out about Clark's Secret, it is about time, I can't wait for Clark to tell her where he is from, and I also thought it was great the way Lana found out about Clark's Powers, and I also liked the way Lana tried to protect Clark by Marrying Lex, I can't wait to see The next New Episode it is going to be Excellent.

smvlladdict

03-16-2007, 06:08 AM

I really want to know what happens to Chloe? Why isn't she in any of the movies????

Bitter Sweet!!!

Chloe>All

03-16-2007, 06:11 AM

I gave it a 5. It did a good job furthering some plot points, but otherwise it was pretty boring.

I'm probably a little biased due to there being very little Chlark interaction.

friday

03-16-2007, 06:11 AM

I was prepared to hate "Promise" but this is what "Reckoning" should have been....move the storyline forward instead of the copout we got in the 100th episode.

Rhoda123

03-16-2007, 06:12 AM

In two words: IT SUCKED!!

vyperman7

03-16-2007, 06:15 AM

Well it wasn't as bad as I was expecting.

It is great Lana FINALLY knows the secret and it was so awesome that the MB is finally back with the bit*h slap heard around the world no less. That is the Lionel I know and love. I also LOVED the reference to the tornado in Vortex, as being the incident that made Lana have doubts. Vortex is one of my all time favorite eps, and I always wanted a better conclusion to the tornado storyline. The way that Lana discovered the secret however, was a bit lame. But I have to give the writers props for not pulling the amnesia card though.

Overall a decent episode with a few pleasant suprises.

chlarkfan333

03-16-2007, 06:18 AM

Hated it. Hated Chloe's and Martha's advice. Complete retcon of their advice in Freak and Crimson, respectively. Glad Lana finally knows so we can get past the whole secrets and lies bit with Clana.....but wait, now we have to go through reruns of that with Lexana, don't we? Except that this time both Lana and Lex will be keeping secrets from each other; oh the irony!

Loved Lionel as always and Shelby too. Clark is a loser. Lex is beyond pathetic. Lana is not worth further mention.

skywalker28

03-16-2007, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
Loved Lionel as always and Shelby too.

Crap, I completely forgot about Shelby, add that to my positive section:D

Kryptonian-Ronin

03-16-2007, 06:42 AM

Lionel was THIS episode.
The great manipulator is back and Lex doesn't even compare !

Lionel knows that Clark is better off without Lana, he knows he can use Lana to control Lex, and so, he does what he does best, CONTROL.

The only true power, control and manipulation (they go hand-in-hand).

So we have the role reversal, now Lana is "protecting" Clark, yeah, didn't see THAT coming ( sarcastic for those the don't habla).

I quess Clark was right all along, if Lana knows his secret, she will be in danger and be used against him.

It happened in Reckoning and now in Promise.

kal-el_superman

03-16-2007, 06:59 AM

This was seriously one of my favorite episodes ever! I don't even care that Clark barely used his superpowers. I went into this episode wanting Clark to completely get over Lana, but now...wow that was intense. Had me on the edge of my seat the entire time...

KryptonChick

03-16-2007, 07:08 AM

A 10 :)

This was one of the best episodes i've seen in a while... Lionel was back to his old self, Lana knowing Clark's secret... man oh man, i loved it :D

smallvilleobsessor17

03-16-2007, 07:11 AM

I voted 2- this episode was TERRIBLE! I mean, there was L****a in it, but it if there wasn't, this episode still would have been absolute torture.

thmallville

03-16-2007, 07:20 AM

I voted 3. The epi was sooo much like Reckoning, which sucked. And there was L***na, which I had to avert my gaze from every 2 seconds. And it was a little confusing. AND SHE FREAKING MARRIED HIM. And it almost made me cry.

Buuuut, it had CLANA!!!!!!!!! And, Lana was actually going to leave Lex for Clark! She obviously doesn't want to marry him, and wants to be with Clark. So that was wonderful. And they both professed their undying love for one another. :p and they KISSED!! And she found out his secret!!!!!!

So, 3, only because there was Clana. Otherwise it would be a 0.

Kryptonian-Ronin

03-16-2007, 07:22 AM

Can't wait to see the truth about the baby...

udtiger

03-16-2007, 07:24 AM

Definite polarization with this episode.

Put me in the "loved it" column with a solid "9".

I have said before, you NEVER forget your first love. This was an excellent romantic tragedy.

I like that Lana now knows about 95% of the story (with the alien part being the big omission [and considering she knows Clark is "good", I really don't think it makes that much of a difference]). I am really looking forward to the "reveal" about Lionel's motives (and it almost certainly will coincide with his demise).

The "friendship" between Lana and Clark is now firmly established. Because she married lex (for however long that lasts), and the circumstance by which it happened, while the love will still be there, the "romantic" attachment will be gone.

One final point, most of the people who blast this episode (and others like it) do so because they look at Clark through the prism of KNOWING he will become Superman someday. 20/20 hindsight is wonderful, but that is not the case here. He's not Superman yet. He's only 21 years old and is still trying to figure out who he is. Think about it, when you were 21, did you have all your **** figured out? Then why should he?

smallvilleobsessor17

03-16-2007, 07:27 AM

^^I agree with you about the romantic tragedy thing- the Clana tragedy was part of why the epi was tolerable. I'm a sucker for a good romantic tragedy. :(

ClarksGal

03-16-2007, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by bigv
Script error:
The first time around it was "If you don't know that then maybe you don't know me as well as I thought you did."
Second time around: "If you don't know that then maybe you don't know me at all."
Pay attention Al Gough and Miles Millar!

I noticed that too. Chloe also said a line about Kryptonite in the version with Lana there, but not in the first version. Something like "I know that you'd rather be stuck near a mound of Kryptonite than be at ground zero of the Luther-Lang nuptials"

I had mixed feelings about this episode. I went into it with pessimism, probably because of all the spoilers that I can't make myself stop reading. :) I dreaded it, but also couldn't wait for the next new episodes to start.

The episode was much better than I thought it would be. There were problems with it, but there was a lot of good in it.

1) Lana finally learned Clark's secret. Maybe no one came out and said that he is an alien, but I think she might put that together. She has seen most of the alien abilities, and she knows about Krypton, and Kryptonite. Chloe mentioned Kryptonite in the wine cellar. I didn't love that Lana was so sneaky about finding out, but at least she acknowledged that it wasn't the right thing to do but that she was desperate.

2) The MB is back!!!!! God I missed him!

3) Lex had his first real true, cold-blooded murder that he commited himself. And it was five minutes before his wedding. In a freakin' church. And not even a little bit of remorse.

4) The look on Lana's face when Lionel left the room after his threat, that says, "Oh man I am F***ed!!!!!!!" And I am not a Lana hater, but I have not liked her much since Clark broke up with her, and I have gotta say, I was kind of happy that she finally stepped up. She acknowledged that Clark doesn't owe her anything, and that she has been in denial and ingoring the truth. And now she understands why this secret is so dangerous, because like five minutes after she learned it, it was used against her. But she had to know, and now she does. And she can't close Pandora's box now. She is going to have to live with the situation she got herself into. I am interested to see how much Lionel's comment about "Welcome to the family" is really true. Now that she pretty much knows everything, what is going to happen to Lana Lang?

Pandora24

03-16-2007, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by udtiger
Definite polarization with this episode.

Put me in the "loved it" column with a solid "9".

I have said before, you NEVER forget your first love. This was an excellent romantic tragedy.

I like that Lana now knows about 95% of the story (with the alien part being the big omission [and considering she knows Clark is "good", I really don't think it makes that much of a difference]). I am really looking forward to the "reveal" about Lionel's motives (and it almost certainly will coincide with his demise).

The "friendship" between Lana and Clark is now firmly established. Because she married lex (for however long that lasts), and the circumstance by which it happened, while the love will still be there, the "romantic" attachment will be gone.

One final point, most of the people who blast this episode (and others like it) do so because they look at Clark through the prism of KNOWING he will become Superman someday. 20/20 hindsight is wonderful, but that is not the case here. He's not Superman yet. He's only 21 years old and is still trying to figure out who he is. Think about it, when you were 21, did you have all your **** figured out? Then why should he?

Very well said. I hope Clark is able to move on and if he finds out, yeah I hope him and Lana will be friends. I just don't care for the romantic attachment anymore. I gave this episode a 9 b/c I enjoyed it overall.

The Good

I loved Lana finally seeing with her own eyes what Clark can do, and locking Chloe in that room was such a sweet move. The girl has finally got some brains and it was so sneaky. Maybe Lex's smarts really have rubbed off on her.;) And, as others have mentioned, she did a great job with expressing her feelings with her eyes. It was totally awesome. And, I'm so glad that she finally had the balls to say "I'm going not going to marry Lex." Good for you Lana! It was sad that Lionel manipulated Lana into marrying Lex, if a bit expected. However, I hope Lana turns it around on Lionel. Maybe I'm reaching, but that would be great.

Even though Clark was sad in this episode, I actually felt for him. He did finally put himself out there and even if I don't want him and Lana back together, at least he finally made a decision to go after her and tell her the truth. So, when things didn't work out for him, he had my sympathy. Awww, poor Clark. But, now that she's married, this should be the final straw for Clark. He should move on from Lana.

Lionel and his manipulations. Fan-freaking-tastic! I'm very curious as to his motivations though...or maybe it's just Lionel showing his true colors again. But the way he moved Lex and Lana around as if they were chess pieces...classic! And as someone mentioned, the slap that he gave Lex was just what Lex needed. Why? Well, that brings me to...

The Bad

Lex--I love evil Lex, I do. But in this episode I saw mostly a desperate Lex trying to hide a big secret from Lana, and desperate men are sloppy as Lionel pointed out. He was practically begging Lionel at the end there. I was very disappointed. I don't like desperate Lex, I like manipulative, ruthless, arrogant Lex. I want him back. Even his smirk to Clark was half-hearted, as if he still wasn't sure how his marriage with Lana was going to last...or as if he knew it wasn't, that it's only a matter of time...

Why was Martha at the wedding? B/c she's a senator? That had better be the reason b/c I saw no reason for her to be there. No reason whatsoever. I also didn't like her advice to Clark. She basically gave him the green light to go after Lana when her advice to him in "Crimson" was to stay away from Lana. I don't like this flip-flop.

Chloe's words to Clark were a bit insensitive in my opinion. She knows how much Clark loves Lana, and wasn't she was the one who said to either tell Lana the truth or let her move on? That's what Clark was trying to do, and now suddenly Chloe is all gun-ho for Clark to swoop in and save Lana again? She could've handled that better. I totally agreed with Clark when he said letting Lana go was the hardest thing he ever did and if she didn't know that, then she didn't know him as well as he thought she did.

On Lana marrying Lex before Lionel manipulated her...she's a big girl, she's got eyes and a brain like everyone else in Smallville. If she didn't see Lex for who he really is, it's b/c she didn't want to. Lana needed to make her own decision b/c she's an adult and if she doesn't want to marry Lex, than she shouldn't. Chloe shouldn't expect Clark to go and rescue Lana. It's called free will Chloe and making your own decisions and even your own mistakes. :p

Mr.Magic

03-16-2007, 08:31 AM

This episode surprised me. I really like it.
Lionel got to be the great hero of the story. He saved Clark from Lana, made his son happy and cleaned up the mess. Oh, and Shelby was in it, too.

7/10

DeesRyche

03-16-2007, 08:37 AM

I hated it I knew it would.

The acting esp. MB and JG was just superb.

KK even had a chance to devlop her character a bit.

Loved that Shelby made an appearance.

Things hated: Martha and Chloe's inconsistency in telling Clark to move on but now all; of sudden and totoall out of the blue encourgaing him to go after Lana...yeah that made complete sense.

Lana being made to look like a martyr. Puh-leeze! Again I guess we are to wear blinders and applaud her for protecting Clark's secret because she's the victim. (Not!) And the way she set Chloe up was distasteful. Then it was almost pianted like she had to find the truth before she could accept that her love for Clark was greater than her love for Lex and she just could not accept Clark until she knew about it. Selfless? Umm, no try selfish (which is very true to Lana's character).

Then the doctor thing was done weird. It looks liek he had a heart attack. But now Lex def. has blood on his hands cuz he moved into the crypt. That really seemed off to me.

The final part that I knew was coming was that TPTB paint the great emnity over Lex and Clark (future included so don't bore me with the this is SV rant) is over a woman.

STFanatic

03-16-2007, 08:46 AM

Speaking of the crypt..

This was in the Luthor mansion right?
The place looked very ancient, why would Lionel move the crypt to America (brick by brick) along with the rest of the place?

Kryptonian-Ronin

03-16-2007, 08:47 AM

BTW, Tomas is looking buff, his arms are looking more and more like what Superman is suppose to look like.

The Tux shirt looked like it was gonna rip !

98chase

03-16-2007, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by lanakk1
Love it or hate it, the directing and editing were great.

one of the best shot episodes. from the music to the slow motion shot when Lex and Lana walked out the church, it was beautifully directed.
I agree. I thought it was a refreshing surprise to get an episode that was shot completely different than ever before (in this series).

HornFan02

03-16-2007, 08:57 AM

It was good but i feel a bit violated :confused:

CaptainObvious

03-16-2007, 09:03 AM

Anytime Clark actually expresses his emotions "out loud" versus just giving us a glare or a stare is beautiful to watch. Not that his facial expression don't burn a hole right through me at times but he finally gave more effort in expressing his feelings to Lana instead of viacariously to Chloe. It only took 6 years!!! I thought the entire eppy was done well.....minus that hidious red lipstick that Lana wore during CK's dream sequence!! ha ha

ddacosta81

03-16-2007, 09:13 AM

I'd rate this episode a 7.

Lex's murder of the doctor, Lana finally witnessing Clark's powers, and Lionel's return to Magnificent Bastard form made this episode.

I'm interested to see when exactly Lionel plans to step in and "collect" from Lex in exchange for assuring Lana's presence at the altar.

I got the impression from "Freak" that Clark was on the path to moving on with his life, but apparently he's as much in love with her as he ever was.

I'm not pulling for or against Clana, but it's hard to follow where Clark's head is at form episode to episode.

"Promise" IMO seemed like "Hypnotic" with a role reversal. Now we have Clark demanding Lana look him in the eyes and tell him she doesn't love him. Lana turns away from Clark. Now she'll be "protecting" him without him knowing it.

The final minutes had too much of a soap opera feel IMO. Lex's smirk in Clark's direction before he gets into the Limo makes me question whether there's more to their rivalry than the new Mrs. Luthor.

Ginx

03-16-2007, 09:21 AM

I hated and loved this episode. We got to see all a good look at evil, a heat-breaking looking Clark, a sadly destroyed Lana, and a hopeful Chloe - I can't wait for next week! I had to give it a 10.

F-Stop Blues

03-16-2007, 09:34 AM

The best part of the ep was Lex killing the doctor. During that scene I was like "your lex luthor, just kill him" and then he did, it was great.

STFanatic

03-16-2007, 09:42 AM

They shouldn't have made it an accident, they should have just let Lex take him out on purpose.
Lex is cold blooded after all, look what he did to Bart, Chloe and the other freaks without remorse.
He shot the reporter in the back in "Vortex" without the least bit of hesitation.
I want to see a truly merciless & evil Lex.

Mr. Wrong

03-16-2007, 09:54 AM

Total soap, total garbage. The worst writing of the series! Can I vote lower than 1?

Ginx

03-16-2007, 09:56 AM

^^To each their own. I thought it was a good episode.

niki

03-16-2007, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by STFanatic
Speaking of the crypt..

This was in the Luthor mansion right?
The place looked very ancient, why would Lionel move the crypt to America (brick by brick) along with the rest of the place?

Nope, it was in the 'basement' (if you can call it that) of the Church where Lex and Lana were going to get married.

Kinda makes it more eerie.
He kills someone, puts them in a crypt, then walks upstairs and gets married. Weeeeird haha.

STFanatic

03-16-2007, 10:49 AM

OK, that explains it better.

TW1977

03-16-2007, 11:10 AM

I'm tired of seeing Clark's heart broken! I hate TC! I just can't stand seeing him like this. Not happy with TPTB! :mad:

Jlvsclrk

03-16-2007, 11:12 AM

It surprised me for sure. After my first watching, I would have given it an 8. Second watching, bumped it to a 10: all the pieces fell into place.

I love the symmetry between this episode and Reckoning, and knew reaction to this episode would be mixed for the same reasons that one was. But getting back to the symmetyr: In Reckoning, he told her his secret and she died that same day. Here, he would have told her his secret [but didn't need to since she'd already found out] and she gets blackmailed into doing something extremely hazardous to her long term safety as a result. On the Lexana front, I keep wondering how she'll get out of it without dying, given the depth of Lex's obsession. Well, maybe now that he's got her, he'll grow tired of it, because so much of his interest is one upmanship. Interesting days to come!

The last scene between Clark and Lana was heartbreaking. I loved the catch in Lana's voice as she tried to say "My feelings have changed." When Clark said the same in Reckoning, it was a steely delivery and she reacted with anger. On the receiving end, Clark knows that he's being lied to and is bewildered and hurt, but knows there's more to the story.

On the Lana front, I know a lot of y'all find it tiresome and you think he should be able to move on. But I can't say I've ever broken up with someone for his reasons so I can see why he finds it so hard. For one, he feels responsible for the fact that she turned to Lex. More importantly, he never stopped loving her, he just felt their relationship could never work. And I must say I think that he's right because Lana doesn't seem to be able to handle the consequences of his secret well. From my POV, the ineffectiveness of Lana's reaction, the way she allows herself to become the victim, shows why Clana was doomed from the start. How does she think she's protecting Clark by giving into Lionel's blackmail?

Although he's not above the thrill of rescuing the damsel in distress, Clark needs a partner who can carry her weight in situations like these. Can you imagine Lois' reaction if the MB confronted her the same way?

pissedoff

03-16-2007, 11:41 AM

Best episode of the season, even better than Justice. This shows we don't have to have tons of superpowers to have a good episode. This was manily story telling with limited power use and it was great.

Bosrudorfer

03-16-2007, 11:52 AM

I HATED it!

Man how long can they drag this out!? He protected her and now she is protecting him?

Soap Opera junk :mad:

Tomsgurl88

03-16-2007, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by niki
Nope, it was in the 'basement' (if you can call it that) of the Church where Lex and Lana were going to get married.

Kinda makes it more eerie.
He kills someone, puts them in a crypt, then walks upstairs and gets married. Weeeeird haha.

Hell yea!!! and with blood stains on his shirt!!! lol That whole scene just gave me the freakin chillssssssss!!

STFanatic

03-16-2007, 12:06 PM

Well, it was better than "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader".
Just a little better

Kryptonian-Ronin

03-16-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Tomsgurl88
Originally posted by niki

Hell yea!!! and with blood stains on his shirt!!! lol That whole scene just gave me the freakin chillssssssss!!

And yet no marks on his knuckles...silly lack of quality control !

Luv Clana/Hate Lexana

03-16-2007, 12:09 PM

I thought the episode was phenominal. It showed just how far Lex will go for what he wants. I mean killing a doctor in a church... yeah, evil. And it showed how much Lana and Clark love each other.

I loved the music in the opening sequence. I think they should do that more often.

I really can't say enough about Kristin this season. She's really taken her acting to a whole different level. Especially in the last two scenes with Tom. Both of them are just amazing together. Tom was also great. I think he's stepped it up a notch too. And he should definitely wear a tux more often.

This episode had me wanting to break my TV. Or just snap Lionel's neck. "Promise" was AMAZING and DREADFUL all at the same time.

I got the weirdest taste in my mouth when Lex called her Mrs. Luthor. Gave me such a weird feeling. Not a good one, either.

The Clana moments were soooo heartbreaking. I can't wait to see the rest of the season. Smallville has redeemed itself... well almost.

smallvilleRED

03-16-2007, 12:59 PM

Hi.
Each to their own,but for me by far the 2nd WORST episode of smallville,just behind reckoning.
I've been with smallville since the start,and will continue to be,im too far in to not see it through,BUT i was a superman fan(comics,etc) first.
I know this has been talked to death since day one,its gough&miller's version of his journey 2 becoming superman blah blah,blah,BUT C'MON this lexana storyline is rubbish!.
They basically did not know each other in the comics.Now their married!!?.We have had 5 and a half seasons of clark holding back,and now lana is the protector???.What the hell.

Oh, and you would think after 5 and half seasons,they would have given us a better way of lana finding out,rather than learning ck's secret by hiding out in a wine cellar.It was basically the same as chloe's exposure.
Hell,they should have just edited in the first 15 minutes of "reckoning" , than the bollocks we got served 2nite.

Argh!! I don't know how much more i can take.Ill stop now,so i don't say something utterly stupid.
Sorry for the rant,just venting,Ignore me.:mad: :mad:

stevejazz

03-16-2007, 01:11 PM

As I suggested elsewhere here, I believe "Promise" was perhaps the greatest "Smallville" episode of the entire series. For a show that's been outstanding from the very start, to achieve its highest peak of all in Season Six is astonishing, and possibly unprecedented. This episode took my breath away, from the immensity of the story developments (and their implications for the future) to the brilliant way it was executed in terms of writing, story structure (looping back to see the same moment from a new perspective), and performances.

I've always been a devoted "Smallville" viewer. But with "Promise," I think it's moved up from "merely" a terrifically entertaining show to a genuine television classic. I cannot wait to find out what happens next, and that's the highest compliment of all.

Steve Sullivan

Kryptonian-Ronin

03-16-2007, 01:12 PM

Unless lana gets knocked on the head and forgets everything.

ClarksGal

03-16-2007, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Jlvsclrk
And I must say I think that he's right because Lana doesn't seem to be able to handle the consequences of his secret well. From my POV, the ineffectiveness of Lana's reaction, the way she allows herself to become the victim, shows why Clana was doomed from the start. How does she think she's protecting Clark by giving into Lionel's blackmail?

Although he's not above the thrill of rescuing the damsel in distress, Clark needs a partner who can carry her weight in situations like these. Can you imagine Lois' reaction if the MB confronted her the same way?

Excellent point!!!!

smallvilleRED

03-16-2007, 01:31 PM

My god,i guess im alone on this one.Whatever.
Here are a few of the key words ppl have used to describe this episode so far: Peak,brilliant,amazing,advancement,best ever,great,etc,etc.
Peak,PEAK???!. Peak of what??. It was the pinnacle of a storyline that should have NEVER HAPPENED.
Am i the only one who wants at least some knid of loyality and respect towards the comics??!

Somnium

03-16-2007, 01:41 PM

I didn't like it and it's not because I'm picky or anything, I even liked Tresspass.

What bugged me the most is the editing, I didn't like it a bit. And how Lana found out about Clark, like wtf?!! it's the worst way I could thing of, thou I am happy she found out on her own but it was badly writen.

Anyway the whole episode is a waste, it's exacly what happened in Reckoning they tried so hard to bring an interesting storyline, somehat of a climax and they just couldn't handle it.

MidgardDragon

03-16-2007, 01:49 PM

Peak,PEAK???!

I dunno, it could be possible that people *gasp* have a different opinion than you. Could it be that not everyone just comes here to complain about Lexana, Clexana, or whatever you have a problem with, but because they like the show and the storyline?

superpal1

03-16-2007, 01:50 PM

I liked this episode even though it made me mad. It made me mad, becuase it actually got me to care about Lana again. I all but had written her off, but in the last few episodes, she has been written well and last night was no exception. She obviously loves Clark, but went through with the wedding anyways. Many people will fault her for this, but she has been around the Luthors, knows that Lex is no good, and probably knows(like will all do) that Lionel was not lying when he said he would kill Clark.
Beyond Lana, I thought everyone did a good job. My only complaint, is that Clark with super hearing, did not hear Lana behind those kegs within 20 feet of him.

smallvilleRED

03-16-2007, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I dunno, it could be possible that people *gasp* have a different opinion than you. Could it be that not everyone just comes here to complain about Lexana, Clexana, or whatever you have a problem with, but because they like the show and the storyline?

Easy with the sarcasm friend.
Like i said each to their own.I love the show just as much as the next person,i was just stating facts.I was just a little frustrated that's all.Sorry.:)

bluekryptonite8

03-16-2007, 02:02 PM

im going to start talking crazy so maybe its not going to make since or it well but just hear me out

We dont know whats going to happen with Lana's Baby, when Lex had a dream about the baby, it seems that the baby is not normal cause Lional knows something about the baby that Lex doesnt want to tell Lana, and the Doctor guy from the crypt said that Lex Sunk really low this time.

And Lionel we still dont know yet what he wants, Smallville turns and twistes the story sometimes, so maybe Lionel threated Lana maybe for a porpuse that we dont know yet, maybe he needs Lex to bring all hes projects down even do he said "You know when im here to collect" he still didnt say no to 33.1 and Luthor corp, Its like Oliver he let Lois Go to do the right thing, so who knows maybe he Lionel needs power to help instead using against the world but i could be wrong i guess we need to wait and fine out later on the season.

And about Clark and Lana well i think eventually Clark is going to fine out about Lana is lying cause Clark said u dont even mean it what your saying u could tell on i person when they dont mean it and for me it look like Lana didnt mean it and Clark saw that to so i dont think this is the end, the only thing is i wonder how Clark hook up with Lois, i cant wait for that episode.

I think Lex is turning insane, he's now killing people is it doesnt go hes way, and know he as a weakness Lana, Lana+kryptonite= Lananite i know it stupid.. but anyway Lex could be strong but know that Lionel got a hook on Lex (here fishy fishy) he's weak and could strike when ever he please but Lionel is smart when to get his big price.

So far with Clark he's just confuse and rip appart, he finally did what he needed to do but it all back fire back to him and thats what he was worried all along, it just sucks for him, I bet hes going to be really sad and angry and the next episode like when hes dad dyed in the next episode he was throwing people around being careless he i probably would if done the samething if that happen to me. I like the episode heck i love every episode they have made but i give it a 10 but the way Lana found out about clark secret didnt like it -1 and first cloe was like let her marry lex and then later she telling him to stop her -1 and hes own mom martha usually takes he's said but this time -1 but i like it when he was proposing to Shelby +1 so total 8 points

mrs. luther

03-16-2007, 02:34 PM

i luv this episode i am so glad lana married lex even if she was blackmailed in to it. i can't stand clana its way to sappy. clark needs to move the **** on. i love evil lex in this episode he was so hott
and lionel is back to his old self which is kewl. i almost cried when lex said " she's not coming"

aoa4life

03-16-2007, 02:53 PM

Having seen every episode of Smallville ever made, I have to say that this episode, story wise, was the most intriguing episode I have seen. They didn't cheplay let Lana find out about clark, meaning he didn't have to tell she was able to see. I loved it and am glad that they did this episode the way they did. It was a beautiful episode, great shots, great colors.

j03superbat

03-16-2007, 03:21 PM

I want to write a review so SO badly, but I only saw the second half and thus I don't feel I have any right.

From what I saw, I have a love-hate relationship with the directing. In one scene Lana and Chloe are walking and talking, and then turns to Chloe. While most people probably don't notice, much less care, I felt that it was a very smooth transition and a really clean cut. I was compelled to mentally congratulate the editor, but I thought the director deserves props to for putting the camera there. It was good coverage.

On the other hand, I had a lot of gripes with the scene where Lex kills that doctor-guy. This is probably a beef with production design, but the crypt was extremely cheesy. It was so laughable I wondered if it was a dream sequence. Intentional or not, it took me out of the viewing experience and that's just bad. That aside, it felt disjointed. If I were Lex, I wouldn't be intimidated at all by the doctor because dammit I'm Lex Luthor. I don't need to beat him up and needlessly cause one of the stupidest deaths on the show. I can erase his identity and keep him in a barn to stop him from talking to Lana.

I know the first argument I'm going to hear is that the scene was written to show how desperate Lex is. Fine - but the directing didn't convey that very well. MR's acting, maybe - if we could see it. I honestly felt like Lex attacked the doctor for no reason. One moment, Lex is starting to panic and the next he starts punching the hell out of the guy, but not out of desperation - more out of, "well, the script says punch him."

So we watch him beat him up. I'm glad we didn't get some slow-mo artsy-fartsy emotional portrayal of each blow, but what we saw was far from a brutal, rage-driven fight thanks to where the camera was placed. Go back and look at it. It would have been much more effective to go handheld and close-up to show the raw brutality instead of the slow panning we got that momentarily made me feel like I was watching soft-core.

And don't get me started on his death. Just... don't.

SWat

03-16-2007, 03:24 PM

I love Smallville. From the first episode until now. I am a die hard Clana fan (I know it's Lois...but still, it's nice to see something different in Lana). Clark and Lana have it on this show, which is why as much as we late it, Clark and Lana can still get emotion out of us for 6 years.
Plot wise, I thought Promise was phenomenal. I loved how Lana finally "saw" the real Clark and came to her senses. I loved how Clark has sacrificed for 6 years to keep her safe by hiding his secret, and now she has to do the same. Brilliant.

However (here's the frustrated part), I am so tired of Lana driving off with another man while Clark watches in the distance. These two are always in love, coming to the brink of happiness only to have it shot out of the sky.
Season 1: Season finale, Lana waves to Clark from the truck as Whitney goes to the bus station.
Season 2: Season finale, Lana cries her eyes out as Clark goes to Metropolis.
Season 3: Season finale (there's a theme), Lana looking for Clark at the bus station and finding the rose
Season 4: the whole season she's in the barn with Jason somewhere else
Season 5: Reckoning (GREAT EP by the way).
Season 6: every time Lana has left with Lex, she has looked back at Clark. EVERY TIME.

The writing on the show is great, but if they keep this up. No one is going to want Lois and Clark. Everyone will be pissed that Lana got away.

Just venting.

SWat

thehenry89

03-16-2007, 03:33 PM

i feel 100% the opposite you do. to me the clana relationship is about as healthy as stuffing butter flavored crisco down you throat. they keep getting together and hurting each other over and over and over again, and what do they gain from it...? nothing. what do they learn? nothing. just because they're all tragic, and it's the love thats "never meant to be" doesn't make it right. clark's love for lana is borderline obsession, and in real life if anyone's boyfriend/ex-boyfriend acted like this i guratee he'd be in prison or he'd have 1000 restraining orders against him. clana is painful to watch and even more painful for clark and lana themselves. promise was IMO worse then any episode that has ever aired since day one; worse then all the FOTW episodes put together, and at this point i could care less if lana ends up in a loveless marrige she only has herself to blame.

RedKalEL

03-16-2007, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by SaberFireTiger
Hated it. Painful to watch.

but aren't you a lexana fan? (judging form your avatar. i like the whole pulp fiction aspect of it. the whole everything isn't in order. I thought the episode was all right just lionel's part came out of left field

Originally posted by smvlladdict
I really want to know what happens to Chloe? Why isn't she in any of the movies????

Bitter Sweet!!!

chloe along with lionel are made for smalllville before smallville chloe and lionel didn't exist

JEWCY

03-16-2007, 03:47 PM

I really liked this episode on how it turned. Im pretty up on things, but I did not realize when they did Lana's story that she would trick Clark into using his powers without him knowing. When I saw Lana hide and Chloe call Clark, 2 and 2 came together and it was a great way for Lana to finally discover Clark's powers.

I really liked how they had that moment and would I of liked for them to be happily together, hell yea, but it will come, but at least Clark hasnt given up all hope.

Lana knows Clark's secret. Lana is protecting Clark-the person she really/still loves, and understands what Clark went through. She will tell Clark eventually what happened with Lionel and all (which was a very good part as well-showing how evil he can be after he seemed to turn a corner) and everything will come full circle with Lex going to the dark side.

I want to know what that pregnancy is all about.

greysfan511

03-16-2007, 04:04 PM

hated it!!!!! i think it was one of the worst episodes to date. lana marrying lex to protect clark? ridiculous, and just plain cruel, to hurt clark like that.

ChlarkFan01

03-16-2007, 04:11 PM

Worst episode of the season, by far!

owensj1

03-16-2007, 04:30 PM

I ended up giving this episode a 9 but I have to say it is mostly because of Lionel. Man, Glover was in rare form.

Clark practicing on Shelby was classic. Clark's determination to tell Lana and get her to stop the wedding was a high point for me. I really enjoyed the way "Promise" delved into Clark's character. Both his conversations with Chloe and Martha were terrific and Clark confronting his own inaction was, for me, very good character development.

I was a little annoyed with the whole "Lana's Choice" component. I have been enjoying evil Lana and I kind of wish she would have chose to marry Lex for some more devious reason.
I have no problem with Lana choosing to save Clark in fact I think it is a nice parallel to Clark's choosing to protect Lana but she could do it in a more Luthor-like way.

Honestly the story did have to move in this direction as Clark can not marry Lana but now that she knows I guess she can be the buffer between Lex & Lionel and Clark. Maybe she will end up battling with Lionel.

Overall I think this was a good set for the rest of the year.

LuckyKrypto

03-16-2007, 04:36 PM

OMG! I don't know how to say what I thought about last nights episode except that I loved it!!
Loved that we are finally seeing Lex and Lionel for the evil men that they are. I have never bought Lionel's act of being a good guy, I've always known he had it in him to totally betray or kill whoever stands in his way of getting what he wants.
Lex to me has finally crossed over. I mean he has killed a man, and I have this gut feeling that Lana isn't pregnant nor has she ever been. I can't figure out what else the doctor guy could have been holding over Lex, but I'm dying to find out! Aaagghh, I can't wait to see how this plays out.
I've been watching this show since the very first episode and last night with Lana finally finding out Clark's secret was so awesome. I loved that it wasn't him telling her, and that she saw for herself that he was different. I also liked that she got to hear Clark and Chloe's conversation. I have been waiting a long time for Lana to turn things around and last night was great in my opinion.
I am totally feeling a renewed interest like never before for this show, I really can't wait to find out what happens next.
:D

CKDDCsuper

03-16-2007, 04:52 PM

I loved it but I knew lex's dad was going to do that to Lana and Clark but ok she know his secret and he thinks she hates him and now she is a Luther but the show did make cry too and I am a guy
100 out of 10

chesneygirl08

03-16-2007, 05:19 PM

I thought the episode was really good! Although it was really sad. It made me cry to see Clark and Lana act like that. I am definately rooting for Clana!! I felt so sorry for Lana because she just wanted to scream "I love you too Clark" but in stead that dumb-a Lionel had to do that!! It made me so mad. I felt sorry for Clark too b/c he loves her so much! I'm glad she knows though! If that doesn't prove they are meant to be together then IDK what does!! Go Clana!!

jack1487

03-16-2007, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by smallvilleRED
Hi.
Each to their own,but for me by far the 2nd WORST episode of smallville,just behind reckoning.
I've been with smallville since the start,and will continue to be,im too far in to not see it through,BUT i was a superman fan(comics,etc) first.
I know this has been talked to death since day one,its gough&miller's version of his journey 2 becoming superman blah blah,blah,BUT C'MON this lexana storyline is rubbish!.
They basically did not know each other in the comics.Now their married!!?.We have had 5 and a half seasons of clark holding back,and now lana is the protector???.What the hell.

Oh, and you would think after 5 and half seasons,they would have given us a better way of lana finding out,rather than learning ck's secret by hiding out in a wine cellar.It was basically the same as chloe's exposure.
Hell,they should have just edited in the first 15 minutes of "reckoning" , than the bollocks we got served 2nite.

Argh!! I don't know how much more i can take.Ill stop now,so i don't say something utterly stupid.
Sorry for the rant,just venting,Ignore me.:mad: :mad:

Both Lex and Lois were in Smallville and since Lana and Clark where boy and girl friend during high school (check out "issue #161 for Lois's visit I will tried to find the issue # for Lex and post it), they would know each other at least for a short time.

I like others liked and disliked parts of this episode but have given it a 10 as I thought that the actors gave some great performances. The thing that stands in my mind is how in the he** does Lionel find out about all of the stuff that he seems to know. And in fact is he trying to keep Clark out of danger or put him there?????

We all know that Lana and Clark will not be together since she is destined to be with Pete Ross and Lois to Clark. I feel that the writers are taking us in the right direction even if it is with some side shows along the way.

I myself have been a Superman fan for the last 60 plus years and have seemed most of the incarnations of how writers have taken this myth and have given or taken away some of his personally so what the writers are doing does not surprise me in fact I expect that to happen. Any how that’s my 2 cents….

Take care,

Jack

jor-eldeux

03-16-2007, 06:39 PM

My children - my children - get a grip. The difficulty with our Superman fix known as Smallville is that it has a backstory which occurs both in its past and in its future. Even DC Comics has changed the story line when it suits it to do so. However, there are rules the perpetrators of Smallville have to abide by to keep the game going. As mentioned earlier - No Clark and Lana together forever - it wasn't going to happen. Lana has no story line in the Superman future. This story line must end before he takes on the Superman persona. He is not Superman now and (TW) has no intention of donning the cape before that occurs. These writers/producers have no loyalty to the backstory except that to which they are bound by legal issues. DC on the other hand has not exhibited any either. They even killed off the hero at one time. My point is this - let go of expectations .... and just take it for what's it worth.

As for last night's story line it had hole after hole in it. If he's so super and she believed at the time invincible, why urge him to leave? Why not leave with him at that moment and never look back. The note was written. She leaves with him at that moment - the Lionel confrontation never occurs. He needed to stay and protect her not meet her at 5 at the barn. The list goes on ad nauseum. In this series in general - Clark and Lana and Lex - the principal characters - are constantly making poor choices in the situations they encounter. They are deer in a headlight factory. Last night was no exception. Perhaps the point for Clark is to bust the hero mythos that Superman always does the right thing. Martha told him, "Then you are just like us" if he behaved as he did, dodging the opportunity to get hurt. It seems that is the whole point of the show - to take down the hero and make him appear confused and dazed - except that he has powers. Maybe - they (writers/producers) don't like Superman. If that's the case - then they have succeeded. The only thing that would change my mind is leaps of maturity by Clark and by the end of next season the character that makes up the mythos is realized.
Lana - in the pressure situation - makes a horrible choice, just like most of us do from time to time. Look at the girl's life - any sanity at all on her part should be applauded if this were real life. The decision to save Clark for me was totally believable. Protecting the man she loved by giving into the blackmail at a crucial point when there was no time to really think - it happens all the time. The decision may or may not be forever (if Lex goes to prison for the murder for instance) - her destiny with Pete Ross is not etched in what the current producers/writers are bound to as the Superman/Lois is now. As for Lex - we get the why he is the way he is with some pop psychology. He didn't choose to be evil - it was his father's fault.

I watch just to see how far they are going to go to separate/rewrite the mythos. I am disappointed they have gone this direction. I think the actors - with what they have to work with - do a fine job. They know it's now a short term gig - and they will soon be free - except for residuals of course. I sincerely hope all of them find life after Smallville. And as much as I will miss the show - I will be glad the rewrite of history and the tearing down of the mythos will be over and I can go back to my imagination of who Superman is to me.

elfstone2087

03-16-2007, 06:39 PM

10 out of 10. This was one of the best episodes of the season. This episode was filled with emotion and drama, and it was awesome!

DravenX

03-16-2007, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by elfstone2087
10 out of 10. This was one of the best episodes of the season. This episode was filled with emotion and drama, and it was awesome!
Promise is now way worthy of a 10/10 rating. All episodes are good but I'm sick of Clark and Lana. It's time to move on already.

I give it a 7/10.

Lois4ever04

03-16-2007, 07:38 PM

this episode was alright. too sad for me so i gave it a 6

SteveS

03-16-2007, 08:09 PM

All in all, I thought it was one of the best episodes on Smallville and much more mature that stupidities such as Aqua. On the other hand, and as a poster above noted, it may well be that TPTB don't really like or respect Superman that is why Clark has been written as he has been on Smallville. Too bad in general, but the episode in specific I thought to be excellent.

clois_lover10

03-16-2007, 08:12 PM

I thought this episode was amazingly put together, and had some great developments in it. Some people are hung up on the specifics of the episode, but if you ignore the minor mistakes that were made then Promise was a truly thoughtful and emotional episode. I loved some of the smaller details that were included. During Lex and Lionel's confrontation at the end, I had to laugh when Lionel said something positively devious alluding to Lex's murder of Lana's physician and Lex responded with "do you sit up at night, practicing this stuff" right before Lionel slapped him. :lol: This was probably the most saddening Clana episode ever, as it seems that the chance of them ever getting back together has truly disappeared. This is an episode that I could watch again and again and never get tired of- I give it a 9.5 out of 10 as no episode can ever be completely perfect, but a 10 in this poll since .5's aren't included. :p

DARKRAGE

03-16-2007, 08:14 PM

I really enjoyed this episode

buddy232

03-16-2007, 08:58 PM

The best of the season so far. It is what Smallville is supposed to be about...Clark and Lana. I did hate that Lana was forced to marry Lex.

435792

03-16-2007, 09:54 PM

all I can say is wow! The best episode in smallville (well the best one i can remember :) Anyways I loved everything about except the fact that lana didn't tell clark about lionel's threat I never knew lana had the guts to keep that inside of her but after all i guess finding out clark's secret knocked some sense in to her. I kinda wish that there had been another twist besides the uninvited threat from lionel but hey i bet they save all that stuff for the finales.

fox2mike

03-16-2007, 10:42 PM

I liked this episode a great deal. The writers have really raised their game since the first hiatus and wrestled the show back up to the pedestal it once was on last season, despite the sloppy beginning of the season.

The time jumps did seem a bit ponderous and out of place at times, but I have begun to admire how courageous the writers have become, taking risks and going to any lengths to keep the suspense level high.

The music was good too, from the song in the end to the Beethoven in the crypt sequence. I liked the edgier scoring choices.

And last but certainly not least....

All hail the return of the Magnificent Bastard!!!

ISUZU

03-16-2007, 10:42 PM

Just seen it - and can I say all the people in the show were just top rate in their acting.

This episode was seriously upsetting for the hard-core Smallville fan - in terms of its content. I thought KK was just brilliant - I think its safe to say that it was a first class lesson in how to act out scenes where a woman is totally and utterly emotionally drained - someone posted on here about the eyes - and they said it all.

I think she knows the full story of Clark Kent when she saw the heat vision - did you see her shake as she watched - she knew he was Kryptonian then.

Then we have the scene with Lionel - man he can be a real bastard when he wants to be. I am still working out what it is he wants though - and I have a feeling its going to be about transferring Clarks powers to himself - using a POWER source and Kryptonite like we seen before. I do believe a part of him was about love for his own son when he saw the note that Lana was going to leave behind - and I seriously believe it would have destroyed Lex.

Then of course we have Lex - reaching a serious milestone in his life by KILLING the doctor and demonstrating that although he developing into that evil genious - at the same time showing his recklessness in a serious situation which is the main cause why in the future Superman always finds a way to stop him. That look at the end where Clark watches on and sees him take away his girl was priceless and evil at the same time.

Chloe finally saying something about the matter - BUT then you have to ask why she said nothing to Lana in all the time they have been together - thats the part that does not make sense to me.

We were left with some nice open stuff at the end of course with:

a) what is special about this baby ?
b) what is it that Lionel will collect on from Lex ?
c) How will the new Luthor trio play each other in episodes to come ?

As for people who ask that this stuff aint in the legends and othe material - well maybe not marriage but those of us who have seen the superman animated cartoons remember the episode where Lex was dating Lana dont we ? - then there was the marriage day of Lois and Lex in L&C - so writers have played around with these things in the past. To me its nothing I would not expect BUT Smallville can be extremely dark and emotional - cartoons and certainly L&C never have that level of depth.

I feel really sad after watching that but the way they filmed it with all those points of views - was just brilliant.

I would give it a 9/10 - which is the best ever episode in terms of acting, emotions, - it loses 1 for the Chloe talk to Clark scene.

Regards,

ISUZU

Detorio

03-16-2007, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Ginx
I hated and loved this episode. We got to see all a good look at evil, a heat-breaking looking Clark, a sadly destroyed Lana, and a hopeful Chloe - I can't wait for next week! I had to give it a 10.

A hopeful Chloe...forgot to mention that one aswell :D. And totally agree with what you wrote. Top notch ep

Originally posted by ISUZU
We were left with some nice open stuff at the end of course with:

a) what is special about this baby ?
b) what is it that Lionel will collect on from Lex ?
c) How will the new Luthor trio play each other in episodes to come ?

To add onto that IMO you could have d) How will Clark handle the events of 'Promise' in the upcoming eps. Will he crumble? Will he shake Lana out of his mind and move on? Or will he persist and find out who threatened Lana and what is it with this baby? All points and questions to look out for in the next fews eps for sure

I HATE GREEN ARROW

03-17-2007, 12:26 AM

best episode since Johnathan Kent died..and Clark told Lana the truth the first time..

Lilisullivan

03-17-2007, 03:05 AM

it was so bad it hurts!
they totally screwed most of the characterisations here.
i'm tired of their crap.

skully

03-17-2007, 04:02 AM

Remarkable how poles apart many SV fans are on this epsiode. I thought it was outstanding. Loved the 3 different POVs. KK's performance was excellent. Sets up the rest of the season for some real Luthor mansion angst. Poor old Lana is gonna be one miserable bit of gear for a while!!

I hope Clark eventually gets the real story (perhaps via Chloe if Lana spills to her) that Lana only went through with it because of Lionel's threat (great to see the MB back!!). Let's see how Lana goes keeping a massive secret when keeping that secret will clearly drive her and Clark further apart.

I wonder if Clark will ever get to tell Lana the Reckoning story to really back up the "I never told you my secret to protect you" line. "Lana, I did tell you once but it got you killed"!!!!

Geez, I hope Combat is not a filler episode to follow this excellent effort.

Detorio

03-17-2007, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by skully
Remarkable how poles apart many SV fans are on this epsiode. I thought it was outstanding. Loved the 3 different POVs. KK's performance was excellent. Sets up the rest of the season for some real Luthor mansion angst. Poor old Lana is gonna be one miserable bit of gear for a while!!

I hope Clark eventually gets the real story (perhaps via Chloe if Lana spills to her) that Lana only went through with it because of Lionel's threat (great to see the MB back!!). Let's see how Lana goes keeping a massive secret when keeping that secret will clearly drive her and Clark further apart.

I wonder if Clark will ever get to tell Lana the Reckoning story to really back up the "I never told you my secret to protect you" line. "Lana, I did tell you once but it got you killed"!!!!

Geez, I hope Combat is not a filler episode to follow this excellent effort.

I too thoroughly enjoyed it. YES there were a few blunders here and there...just like every other ep of Smallville. As you mentioned the 3 POV's was fresh and i liked it. And as much as id be awsome if Chloe got to tell him what happened...id rather Clark go out and find out for himself. Good to see someone enjoyed it like i did.

GooN

03-17-2007, 07:06 AM

fking fantastic...the choice of music, the plot, the way it was shot....and finally certain things can be put to rest....for now....

and also the return of the dark side of lionel which has been missed.

i give it a 9, cos i never give 10's :D

Mr. Mxyll32

03-17-2007, 08:00 AM

This is my second fav ep of the season. Crimson still tops but i still don't like Lana married to Lex. I hate it. kristin acting was good. I like the different views of the story this time. I hope they will build upon this and things get better. I give it a 9 or A

darkone

03-17-2007, 09:24 AM

It was definitely the best Episode of Smallville which wasnt focussed on action but on the emotional aspect of the show.It was great.

Mythica

03-17-2007, 09:34 AM

This had to have been the best episode of Season 6 by far... if not of the whole show. It stuck to the core players (Lex, Lana, Clark) and showed the true Lana Lang for the first time all season. The Clark - Lana relationship is all about sacrificing your own feelings to save another. Clark has been doing that for years and now Lana fully understands why. It's about time Lana was let in on why he did the things that he did and it's about time we saw Lex finally being the bad guy. All of this lovey-dovey stuff from him was really sickening. I can't wait until Lana finds out what he did to her so that we can have alpha-Lana show her claws!

Oh and let's not forget Lionel. Damn, he's wonderful as a bad guy! I miss when JG isn't on the show. He brings all of the actors up to their A game. KK and TW knocked it out of the park in this one! You could feel their pain in every scene that they were in. No other couple on TV can do what they can do with just a simple look.

"Promise" has renewed my addiction to Smallville and I didn't think that was possible after what they have done to Lana this year. Too bad it's getting followed by something like "Combat". Yet another pointless episode just put in to show some skin and put ED's "assets" on display. :rolleyes: The last time they had some wrestler as a guest star, TW was a guest star too. Wouldn't doubt if this one would be the same, especially considering the CW's directors cuts. :rolleyes:

jazzmila

03-17-2007, 09:37 AM

I loved it, but I hated the way it ended. This show was like Reckoning, it was so good, but it broke my heart into a thousand pieces. I loved the acting and everything, but this was the finale for me. I can no longer watch it because it hurts too much. This was the end of Clark and Lana and the end for me.

archangl73

03-17-2007, 10:01 AM

I think the episode could have been a little better and a scene between clark and lionel or clark/lex/lana in the same room would have been very enriching for viewers. But it could have been a dry, mopey, Clark-doesn't-tell-Lana-AGAIN sort of episode, and the writers and director turned it into something far more creative. It was very difficult to watch as Lana had to break Clark's heart to save his life (waitasec, didn't Clark do that in Reckoning?? It balances that love equation I think!) But I was very very relieved to see Lana finally learn Clark's secret (and remember it at the end of the episode!). The show should have done it a season or two ago, but now they can finally move on creatively with the characters.

It was good to see Lionel back to his true, manipulative form. And despite what I have read others say elsewhere, I think the mystery baby story is actually quite good. Lex isn't playing Lana, he really loves her a lot, but its all within the twisted context of his life. Comical but evil Lex Luthors of the silver screen are fun, but I think Michael Rosenbaum's dark Lex is so much more interesting and befitting as an archenemy for the emerging grandaddy of superheros!

Rosetta Stone

03-17-2007, 10:19 AM

This is one of my favorite episode's. Although I'm not happy about Lana going thru with the wedding but I'm sure it won't last. When she saw Clark use his powers - OMG that was awesome. I really liked the format, showing the different POV's - that was cool. KK & TW's acting in this ep was amazing I could feel their pain, at the end when she looked at him out the car window - I cried like a baby...

monstra

03-17-2007, 11:14 AM

This was an AMAZING episode. I'll give it a 10 even tho I did have one complain with how the scenes were obviously different from the 3 POV's.

Anyways, Kristin was wonderful, Gah, shes such an amazing actress, and the Kristin/Tom chemistry was off the charts in this episode too, they always have THE best scenes, but I thought in this episode particulary their scenes were really strong.

And episodes like these remind me why I love Clana, they just belong together, and I can't wait for Clark to find out what Lana did so they can try it one more time! :D

Oh and of course, that's Lana right there, not the brain dead person that was in the show in the first half.

__jb

03-17-2007, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by monstra
This was an AMAZING episode. I'll give it a 10 even tho I did have one complain with how the scenes were obviously different from the 3 POV's. I just assumed that each of them remembered and noticed things a bit differently.

Dpride360

03-17-2007, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by jimintn
I guess I must be the only one that didn't care for it. I'm glad Lana FINALLY figured it out, but does this mean that the rest of the established Superman lexicon is going to be thrown out the window? Nowhere in the Superman universe does Lana marry Lex, nor does she have his baby/freak/puppy/whatever. (She actually marries Pete in the comics, but that's a whole other ball of wax). What's next? Clark joins a monastary, never marries Lois, never puts on the cape?

The writers of the show must know how many of us fans thought the whole Lana-Lex thing was absurd as is, and now this?

Very disappointed.
:mad:

Man, I am glad to finally hear someone who agrees with me. This show is great (one of two reasons I watch television) but it has broken so far from Superman that it is nearly impossible to recover now.

Clark never met lois in high school (I know, it's late for this, but it annoys me). Chloe should not be a meteor freak. Lex became Zod? Ridiculous. Lana and lex? Don't you dare. And as far as Clark goes... he is being played as nothing like Superman. At least in the beginning he was somewhat similar. Now he has downgraded into more of a whiny b*tch.

The wedding is ridiculous, the baby even more so (though I am willing to bet it will not be born and that will drive lex even more insane), EVERYBODY but Lex knows Clark's "secret"... overall, I am starting to think the writers are running real thin on ideas and are now trying to stretch this time period before Superman way too far.

The only thing I am waiting for now is the episode where clark meets a before-the-costume Bruce Wayne, and bruce smacks him in the head and tells him to grow a pair.

Cyn

03-17-2007, 01:47 PM

It was absolutely dreadful. I never thought I'd see the day that I could ever dislike Clark Kent, but it has happened. There is no way that such a pathetic wuss can become Superman. He needs to cry a river, grow a pair, build a bridge and get over his whiney self and his obsession with Lana. Lana is like Pink Kryptonite. It won't kill Clark, but it makes him so pathetic that I wish it would.

Also, what's up with Martha & Chloe? Martha is suddenly telling Clark to reveal his secret to Lana after telling Clark to let it go a couple of episodes ago. That was very out of character. As for Chloe, why can't she try to save Lana from the monster she is about to marry. All she'd have to do is say "Lex is evil. Let me tell you what I've found out.". Lana will definitely feel betrayed by her silence once she fully realize how evil Lex truly is.

By the end of the episode, I wanted to *****slap each and every one of the characters with the exception of Lionel. Go Lionel!

3 things I did like about this episode:

1. TW in a tux. He should be required to always wear that.
2. Lana's Wedding Gown. It was gorgeous.
3. Shelby. He was so adorable.

ClarkyBoy14

03-17-2007, 02:10 PM

10/10

This episode was amazing. The time thing confused me at first, but once I figured out what they were doing, I liked it; it was interesting.
It was nice to see Nell again, and the return of the MB was great. His scene w/ Lex at the end was amazing and I'm very interested in what he wants; that line was pretty ominous.
The scene were Lex killed the doc & his nightmare were both freaky.
I still can't believe that Lana knows now, that's so awesome!
Plus, everyone's acting was great.

CLanaF23

03-17-2007, 02:52 PM

i loved it unitl Lionel came in and talked to Lana..but the end and the rest of the episode i was mad and sad at the same time... felt soooooooo bad for Clark and especially Lana...

somethoughts

03-17-2007, 04:41 PM

Amazing episode. Finally we saw the iconic Lana. Kristin kreuk's eyes were so expressive. She is a good actress.

ChLoEfAn4eVaLUVSnCkLbK

03-17-2007, 04:48 PM

after reading the spoilers and watching the various trailers, i was looking forward to the episode, but after watching the episode, i was disappointed.

why? well, lana FINALLY found out about clark, but it wasn't as big as it should've been because of the wedding.

that's just me, though..

margroks

03-17-2007, 05:53 PM

Worst ep ever. Everyone was OOC, especially Chloe and Martha who have repeatedly told Clark to move the hell on becasue Lana is not the girl for him and sudden;y they are cheerleading for Lana. Lana is shown to be even more a hypocrite to dump Lex in a note rather than having the guts to tell him in person. Just like she did WHitney. She didn't mind all the perks like trips to Paris on Lex's dollar and didn't hesitate to sleep with him and get pregnant but sudden;y she chickens at the last minute? After sucking Clark into her nasty scheme and he should know better than to trust her nasty lying self.

Clark is depicted an having no morals whatsoever, makinglout with another man's fiance, a girl who is pregnant with his child and who has had nothing but nasty, cruel and cutting remarks for Clark for almost two years now. Oh, yeah, and Lana lies to Chloe and locks her in a refrigerated room to spy on Clark when he comes to the rescue, showing the audience that yes, she can be even more nasty than she was when she lied her way onto the Kent farm and into Clark's room to root through his things for clues to his secret.

Instead of being called out on her crap and lies and dispicable behavior, Lana is treated like a martyr for marrying Lex to save Clark when she willingly agreed to it a long time ago and I have no sympathy for her. Clark deserves every bit of misery since the hero should never have done what he did and why he ever cared for this awful girl is inexplicable.

If the producers are smart they'll have Clark in the shower next week saying to himself, "Wow! That was some nightmare!" becasue showing us he dreamed of killing Lex and that he was okay with kissing an almost married woman and plotting with her to run away instead of facing her obligations, willingly agreed to, makes him as bad as her and no hero at all.

chesneygirl08

03-17-2007, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by buddy232
The best of the season so far. It is what Smallville is supposed to be about...Clark and Lana. I did hate that Lana was forced to marry Lex.

Thank you!! Smallville IS about his life before Superman! Everyone is so worried about him getting with Lois and Lana with Pete. Just enjoy the dang show and everything will work out. Right now he's not supposed to be with Lois so just chill. He's still got a while before Superman so since Clark loves Lana and Lana loves Clark, I think they should be together. I want what Clark wants! This is what Smallville is about. If you want Lois and Clark right now- go watch the movies b/c its not gonna happen. My 2 cents!

Mw511

03-17-2007, 10:04 PM

OMG! Poor clark!!! :( :( :(

shuyin131

03-18-2007, 04:10 AM

@margroks

wow. aside from the female on female angst, that is true.

Aside from the obvious OOC, from a guy's perspective, Clark shouldn't give a damn that he kissed a woman that was about to marry another man, he knew that it was a sham, he knows that she knows, and the scene in the chapel was about that.
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Clark is still growing up, and growing up isn't perfect. A person's past, is what shapes a person for the present. Clark may not be perfect, may not think, act like Superman, but because of the things that happen to him, it will mold him into the Superman that we know (no not the movie Superman, the comic version).

InLove_with_Chloe

03-18-2007, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by margroks
Worst ep ever. Everyone was OOC, especially Chloe and Martha who have repeatedly told Clark to move the hell on becasue Lana is not the girl for him and sudden;y they are cheerleading for Lana. Lana is shown to be even more a hypocrite to dump Lex in a note rather than having the guts to tell him in person. Just like she did WHitney. She didn't mind all the perks like trips to Paris on Lex's dollar and didn't hesitate to sleep with him and get pregnant but sudden;y she chickens at the last minute? After sucking Clark into her nasty scheme and he should know better than to trust her nasty lying self.

Clark is depicted an having no morals whatsoever, makinglout with another man's fiance, a girl who is pregnant with his child and who has had nothing but nasty, cruel and cutting remarks for Clark for almost two years now. Oh, yeah, and Lana lies to Chloe and locks her in a refrigerated room to spy on Clark when he comes to the rescue, showing the audience that yes, she can be even more nasty than she was when she lied her way onto the Kent farm and into Clark's room to root through his things for clues to his secret.

Instead of being called out on her crap and lies and dispicable behavior, Lana is treated like a martyr for marrying Lex to save Clark when she willingly agreed to it a long time ago and I have no sympathy for her. Clark deserves every bit of misery since the hero should never have done what he did and why he ever cared for this awful girl is inexplicable.

If the producers are smart they'll have Clark in the shower next week saying to himself, "Wow! That was some nightmare!" becasue showing us he dreamed of killing Lex and that he was okay with kissing an almost married woman and plotting with her to run away instead of facing her obligations, willingly agreed to, makes him as bad as her and no hero at all.
Once again I have to say:
Excellent analysis.
:)

daxx

03-18-2007, 11:09 AM

You know it is a good episode when you have the fans this riled (sp?) up over it.

mrs. luther

03-18-2007, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by daxx
You know it is a good episode when you have the fans this riled (sp?) up over it.

i totally agree

Lasso69

03-18-2007, 11:48 AM

it was one of the better episodes this seasons thrown at fans

and contrary to my how i feel towards this episode daxx is right

but personally i think this was ALMOST as good as "Fallout"

Mac-Chops

03-18-2007, 12:05 PM

Don't see how Lana just believed there and then that Lionel could/would kill Clark..

hopefully now they can let the Clana thing rest and let CK get on with zoner ass kicking!

MidgardDragon

03-18-2007, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Once again I have to say:
Excellent analysis.
:)

Have to disagree there. Starting up a review with "worst ep ever" the most cliched thing ever pretty much disallows it to be called anything like an "analysis."

Wonder Man

03-18-2007, 12:11 PM

This episode was great. The highlight of this season for sure. I don't come much to these boards because it bothers me reading all the hating for Lana and people putting down the show. The same people that hang around this board constantly and never miss it. Everybody has to be a critic I guess.

Again: AWESOME EPISODE!!! Here's for a 10 season stint for Smallville. Even in the comic books Lana is being hinted as Clark Kent's true love so who knows what will happen in the end with Clark & Lana in this series. Clark & Lana forever!

Raging Clue

03-18-2007, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Have to disagree there. Starting up a review with "worst ep ever" the most cliched thing ever pretty much disallows it to be called anything like an "analysis."
Just because it starts with "worst ep ever" does not mean it's not an analysis. I think it's an in depth, thorough analysis. An analysis doesn't have to start with "best ep ever." All the facts stated in the analysis backed up the opening sentence. An analysis doesn't always analyze things in a positive way. Cliche opening or not, it was a great analysis. You have your own opinion, everyone likewise.

STFanatic

03-18-2007, 12:26 PM

Don't get this wrong, I am a fan of the series as I have watched every episode when it aired, I haven't missed but one airing due to a power outtage during a hurricane.
That said, I really don't want more than one more season if it keeps on as it is.
Seven seasons is enough for any series, after tha tit just becomes way too stale. (X-Files without Mulder?)
Once they have covered every possible subject or seneario it just becomes repetitive (FOTW?).
UNless they come up with something really fresh (JLA?) then there is not much reason to continue and the series will go away midseason and leave some questions unanswered.

MidgardDragon

03-18-2007, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Raging Clue
Just because it starts with "worst ep ever" does not mean it's not an analysis. I think it's an in depth, thorough analysis. An analysis doesn't have to start with "best ep ever." All the facts stated in the analysis backed up the opening sentence. An analysis doesn't always analyze things in a positive way. Cliche opening or not, it was a great analysis. You have your own opinion, everyone likewise.

I'm not disagreeing with his opinion. I'm disagreeing that it is an "excellent analysis". I don't care if someone thinks it's the worst, best, or an average episode. Starting up your "analysis" with something so cliched and trite is not objective, something an analysis should be.

Raging Clue

03-18-2007, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I'm not disagreeing with his opinion. I'm disagreeing that it is an "excellent analysis". I don't care if someone thinks it's the worst, best, or an average episode. Starting up your "analysis" with something so cliched and trite is not objective, something an analysis should be.
Almost every analysis starts out with an opinion on the topic/episode. These people aren't part of Oprah's Book Review Club, so I think it's more than fine that they start it off like that.

redeem147

03-18-2007, 01:47 PM

I loved the structure of this episode. I would have preferred that Lana marry Lex and then become disillusioned (make for more tension) than be forced into it by Lionel. While she tried to back out to protect Clark (she knows Lex' obsession with people with powers) I think she does love Lex too. I look forward to how this unfolds (and just what is up with that baby).

Though I was confused at first, when she told Lex they shouldn't elope because it would be a waste of 400 gay men. I realized the second time through it was game hens.

Khyla

03-18-2007, 02:04 PM

QUOTE]Originally posted by redeem147
Though I was confused at first, when she told Lex they shouldn't elope because it would be a waste of 400 gay men. I realized the second time through it was game hens. [/QUOTE]

:rotfl:
Yeah i missed them not giving us any reception at all :mad:

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As time has passed, i'v e gone thru several stages in my analysis of "Promise"

:( my intial reaction: i hadn't eaten dinner yet and after watching the episode i had lost my appetite.

:o I also was embarassed that i have given my accclaim to a show that produced such a poorly scripted and badly edited episode

:mad: the "character assassinations" and total lack of continuity seriously pissed me off .

:lol: i realized that it was actually laughable how totally ludicrous, disjointed and out-of -wack the representation of our hero and the other major characters was in this presentation, and that it may have been an intentional spoof (representing the silliness that this Clark Kent would still be so childish and pining for this Lana Lang) The scene with Shelby was the epitome of this.

:\ I then thought perhaps the writers and editors didn't really give 2 sh*ts about how this ep came off, as it was just intended as a filler.

:) Now i think i have come to the realization that, yes, Smallville is basically supposed to consist of stand-alone episodes, and is not continuity-driven like a soap opera. And after all the advertising and hipe over the Lexana Wedding, tptb wanted to convey the essence of the show, especially to those who may be tuning in for the first time ever: the angst, the drama, the vulgaritiy, the special fx, the weird twists, the glorious complexity of Lionel's character, (not to mention span the plethora of acting abilities exhibited by KK -- another ep to add to her portfolio).

:rolleyes: To people who'd never seen SV before, to continue anything from last week's "Freak" ep might have been confusing, and boring, as would anyone catching the boquet, or a ballroom dance at a reception. *sigh* (imo tptb don't really care about us die-hard fans, cause they know we'll watch no matter what kind of crap they spew out).

:( (i'm still somewhat critical though of their not being able to come up with enough material, so they wouldn't have to resort to replays of scenes. that was totally unnesscessry and too drawn out.

InLove_with_Chloe

03-18-2007, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Have to disagree there. Starting up a review with "worst ep ever" the most cliched thing ever pretty much disallows it to be called anything like an "analysis."
Well, it certainly ranked amongst the 3 worst, most painfully annoying epis of SV.......IMO.

Originally posted by Khyla
:lol: i realized that it was actually laughable how totally ludicrous, disjointed and out-of -wack the representation of our hero and the other major characters was in this presentation, and that it may have been an intentional spoof (representing the silliness that this Clark Kent would still be so childish and pining for this Lana Lang) The scene with Shelby was the epitome of this.

(...)

:) Now i think i have come to the realization that, yes, Smallville is basically supposed to consist of stand-alone episodes, and is not continuity-driven like a soap opera. And after all the advertising and hipe over the Lexana Wedding, tptb wanted to convey the essence of the show, especially to those who may be tuning in for the first time ever: the angst, the drama, the vulgaritiy, the special fx, the weird twists, the glorious complexity of Lionel's character, (not to mention span the plethora of acting abilities exhibited by KK -- another ep to add to her portfolio).
Well done, Khyla!!!
:)