Peter isn't Peter when he blows up NYC

[CallMeClark]

He's Sylar. I think it is pretty obvious. That is why everyone is running away from Peter in his dream sequence. Not to mention it would make sense, especially now that we have a "mutant" with the illusion ability. He will be able to mock her ability, thereby turning into Peter and can blow up NYC by taking Ted's ability. Makes sense huh? But that would mean two more deaths... and I like the new girls ability.

[Dpyro]

wait but what about claire running up too nathan and saying im sorry and nathan going up to him still i mean if he was sylar wouldnt everyone be running even simmone tried to run up to him and if it is an illusion where is peter in his dream

[CallMeClark]

I dunno. It just seems to make sense because they begin to run up but then they run away.

[Billyk]

Originally posted by Dpyro
wait but what about claire running up too nathan and saying im sorry and nathan going up to him still i mean if he was sylar wouldnt everyone be running even simmone tried to run up to him and if it is an illusion where is peter in his dream

I think the real explanation comes from the Hiro of the future telling Peter to "save the cheerleader, save the world".

So Future Hiro message was for Peter to save Claire because only then Peter would know what to do next, or how to save the world. So just after Peter saves Claire from Sylar, he has the nyc bomb dream. There´s even a part of Peter´s dream that Sylar shows up and says, "You can´t stop me".

I mean, if Sylar gets Ted Sprague´s walking radioactive bomb ability and not come to grips with the ability as soon as he "steals" it (like when Sylar got "super-hearing" and it got triggered all of a sudden) then he could certainly be the one that goes "boom". And since Peter got the invisible man power, that is the hint to why he is not there, he got to use this power and surprise Sylar, what exactly Peter will be doing in the end i don´t know. Or maybe it is more than just the fact that it is not Peter who will explode, but the bomb can not be stopped. In other words, the best thing to do is make sure the explosion is not big enough to destroy more than nyc, so nyc might not be saved, but the rest of the world should survive.

[angeloo]

im thinking the dream is a metaphor for his powers, he has to control them to control whats going to happen in nyc, and i think sylar or linderman will have a big part in the bomb

[Uffr]

It had to be some form of metaphor. We saw in the second episode that Issac was dead yet he made it into the dream still.

[phantom222]

isnt this proof that peters dreams r metiphorical?simones in the explosion 1 but she couldnt really b there,she`s dead.and peter never actually flew with simones dad.the definition of empath is 2 see from another perspective,so he was seeing through teds

the whole sylar looking like peter theory makes no sense at all

why would he need 2 look like peter 2 blow up new york?to set him up?cuz everyone would b dead anyway

[Billyk]

Originally posted by phantom222
isnt this proof that peters dreams r metiphorical?simones in the explosion 1 but she couldnt really b there,she`s dead.and peter never actually flew with simones dad.the definition of empath is 2 see from another perspective,so he was seeing through teds

the whole sylar looking like peter theory makes no sense at all

why would he need 2 look like peter 2 blow up new york?to set him up?cuz everyone would b dead anyway

But maybe Sylar doesn´t explode deliberately...
According to the Theory of Sylar "setting the bomb" it looks like it will happen by accident, because Sylar won´t be able to learn how to control ted´s ability.
And Sylar is using the ability to frame peter for the murder of other heroes, or maybe so he can kill Nathan or any other hero that knows Peter, making it a lot easier for Sylar to get to them without suspicion.

[phantom222]

but y would sylar kill a city full of people who could have powers he could take?and as i said before,how could simone have been there ,she IS dead.a lot of people think she`ll come back but,fuller said she`s dead and not comin back.thats proof peter`s dreams r metiphorical

`I dunno. It just seems to make sense because they begin to run up but then they run away.`


uh ya that might b cuz hes gonna blow up.

[jdh_randomrambler11]

haha. yeah i agree. his dreams MUST be metaphorical. I mean seriously,

how can Simone be there if she's dead. And how could Peter explode?? i dont think that Peter will explode, maybe they'll stop it, maybe not, maybe it truly isnt peter that is the 'exploding man'.

there ARE other options.


we'll just have to wait til April 23rd. GAH!

cant wait!! :\

jdh:rotfl:

[chrisxs5]

Metaphorical;
Matt was a cop in the dream-which he isnt now.
Claire was a cheerleader-which she isnt now.
Simone was there-She is now dead.

Also they expanded his dream in the next episode to include him watching Claude steal stuff and laughing.

Peter has had these metphorical dreams since the beginning.

[Monkeychow01]

Heh thanks for taking my ideas I've been preaching on the forum for the past 2 months ;) Least I know people are reading it and agree lol

But now that I'm reading more of "who's a shoe in for Season 2".....Neither Sylar OR Peter exploding make sense.....or even if they do..that much mean they don't DIE from exploding.......because both are pretty much cast for Season 2 according to the director.

[DiscoDyslexic]

It's very possible that Peter does explode, I imagine he'd easily survive. Outside of that, stopping an explosion in new york hardly warrents the phrase "save the world", Maybe peter just need to save clair for her power, so that he would survive the explosion and be around for his greater purpose in the future, immidiate or otherwise, to save the world.

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by DiscoDyslexic
It's very possible that Peter does explode, I imagine he'd easily survive. Outside of that, stopping an explosion in new york hardly warrents the phrase "save the world", Maybe peter just need to save clair for her power, so that he would survive the explosion and be around for his greater purpose in the future, immidiate or otherwise, to save the world.
I have never though of it like that, but of course "Save the Cheerleader, Save Just New York" wouldn't be as catchy!

[DiscoDyslexic]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
I have never though of it like that, but of course "Save the Cheerleader, Save Just New York" wouldn't be as catchy!

haha, Quite true.

[Drakaun]

In the previews for the next episode that takes place in the future, there is a clip of Peter talking about how he caused the explosion, so that would mean that he did indeed cause the explosion, and that he did indeed survive it. Could be false information in the trailer, maybe taken out of context, perhaps Sylar is somehow inside of Peter like Nikki/Jessica and it is him that is saying that line, we will just have to wait until the April 30th to find out, can't wait looks like an awesome episode.

Of course if they are giving us a future episode, I doubt these events will all really occur, because they will really somehow stop everything, otherwise five years from now when the show if the show is still on, which I think it will be, then we will just be seeing the same stuff happen all over again.

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I'm guessing it's Nathan. My "theory" that I've come up with so far is that Peter does explode....suppositally the producers already said he does. He's already shown us that he can use Claire's power when he wants to. Nathan wants to save Peter and everyone else. If you notice in the Peter's dream, the only one to approach him is Nathan. I'm thinking Nathan grabs him and shoots way the hell up into the sky right before Peter explodes. That way, when he goes boom....it's in the air and saves everyone......in which case Nathan dies, and then Peter just uses Claire's healing power to survive.

I've honestly been thinking about that since they said someone was going to die......it sorta "made sense" to me."


From another thread on here..............just saying. "I CALLED IT" Months and months before anyone else brought it up.

Night before that, I fell asleep with only that on my mind, and that's what I came up with...kinda cool it ended up being dead on.

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by Monkeychow01
I'm guessing it's Nathan. My "theory" that I've come up with so far is that Peter does explode....suppositally the producers already said he does. He's already shown us that he can use Claire's power when he wants to. Nathan wants to save Peter and everyone else. If you notice in the Peter's dream, the only one to approach him is Nathan. I'm thinking Nathan grabs him and shoots way the hell up into the sky right before Peter explodes. That way, when he goes boom....it's in the air and saves everyone......in which case Nathan dies, and then Peter just uses Claire's healing power to survive.

I've honestly been thinking about that since they said someone was going to die......it sorta "made sense" to me."

From another thread on here..............just saying. "I CALLED IT" Months and months before anyone else brought it up.

Night before that, I fell asleep with only that on my mind, and that's what I came up with...kinda cool it ended up being dead on. Well not completely dead on, I highly doubt Nathan actually died. I'd say he flew away at the last second and saved himself, I mean he's not THAT selfless you know.:lol: But other than that, good call! After I read that original post of yours I completely saw it happening too and so adopted the theory myself (except I posited the possibility of Nathan surviving).

[The Ninth Doctor]

Before I came to this amazing Forum of Knowledge, I also adopted this theory. But Nathan's still out there most likely (something that was not part of my theory)

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
Before I came to this amazing Forum of Knowledge, I also adopted this theory. But Nathan's still out there most likely (something that was not part of my theory) You thought it up all on your own TND? Well done my friend. Monkeychow01's post that he self-quoted above was definitely what put the idea in my head, heh. And yeah Nathan's alive and well.:cool:

[The Ninth Doctor]

When I first saw Peter explode in one of his visions. I was thinking, Peter's the one that's going to kill New York, Nathan is becoming very unlikeable, and can fly. That said season finale redemption moment to me.

As time went on and I began to enjoy Nathan's character arc though, I wanted to wrong more and more.

Now, I have mixed feelings about Nathan's survival. On the one hand, he's a very interesting character played by an amazing actor, but on the other hand, it seems to cheepen his redemption. If he somehow looses his carreer and/or his family, I suppose it would still be signifigant.

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by The Ninth Doctor
it seems to cheepen his redemption. If he somehow looses his carreer and/or his family, I suppose it would still be signifigant.I guess it would cheapen his redemption, but I think Nathan would take "living and breathing" over redemption any day of the week, wouldn't you? :lol:

[The Ninth Doctor]

I suppose. And by giving up a bid at the white house I guess he had both.

[Ania]

Originally posted by CallMeClark
He's Sylar. I think it is pretty obvious. That is why everyone is running away from Peter in his dream sequence. Not to mention it would make sense, especially now that we have a "mutant" with the illusion ability. He will be able to mock her ability, thereby turning into Peter and can blow up NYC by taking Ted's ability. Makes sense huh? But that would mean two more deaths... and I like the new girls ability. Mystique wannabe with illusion ability is still alive at the end of episode 23, so the only people able to look like Peter are Peter and Candice herself. And Candice is in the building while Peter explodes.

[how_u_doinnn]

peter has the power to regenerate thats why he can survive the explosion

[Xanderman]

Originally posted by how_u_doinnn
peter has the power to regenerate thats why he can survive the explosion He can't regenerate if he's blown to bits or burned to ashes man. Lol it's not the healing power that's the key here, it's the fact that powers in general do not harm their source or originator (or anyone else with the same power). In this case, no matter how much radiation Peter releases, it will never harm him. Sylar intuitively understands this fact and so procured the power for himself, allowing him to face Peter without fear of being fatally irradiated should Peter happen to unleash his load upon him.:lol:

[Superboy2]

Nathan doesn't die. DL is the one who died.

[The Ninth Doctor]

Please don't post spoilers in the speculation forum. While this was was not a spoiler for me, as it was the last I viewed before going cold turkey, it may spoil it for others.

[Superboy2]

Not a spoiler, its pretty much a giveaway.

[The Ninth Doctor]

I suppose your right. He is the only actor not touring with cast...

Anyway, I just always think its better to be safe than sorry, and I'd rather it be someone like me, a lowly Forum Regular, rather than a mod or something to tell someone something like my above post.

Sorry about all that. Hope it caused no offense.

[Superboy2]

I was deeply offended and hurt......just kidding no problem.