Hrg shooting Claude

[Hockeyking]

I was watching the show again tonight, when Mr. Bennett shot Claude he was shocked that the gun went off. Could there have been a telekinetic, or telepathic controlling Hrg.

[k18]

no, I think he was shocked that he actually shot him. I don't think he was expecting HRG to be so cold.

[Hockeyking]

No I mean that I don't think Mr. Bennett was going to shoot Claude, I meant that Hrg was definately surprised that the gun went off.

[angeloo]

i think some1 else did it... and who ever it was was TK and stopped the bullets that supposably hit claude cause he wouldnt survive that.. he did say he was hiding one and knew that HRG was going to kill him .. if he didnt have something that he knows he wouldnt die i doubt hed go

[warriorrenegade]

Yeah I noticed that also. He didn't expect that gun to fire. Someone else was there.

[Drolfin]

We still don't know everything about Claude's powers. maybe it's not limited to invisibility but complete manipulation of the visual spectrum? if so, he could have been projecting himself in front of HRG while he was really somewhere else. also would explain how the hell he survived being shot.

[Fusionoma]

I doubt that there was anyone else there, HRG would have done more than look shocked. I think he would have said something. I think it was probably the first time he's had to kill someone and on top of that it was his friend/partner, but we never know with this show.

[warriorrenegade]

No it wasnt' the first time he killed, Claude said as much on the ride there. After the first shot, HrG was commited then he had to continue. That first shot was no HrGs' doing.

HrG's stance while holding the gun didn't suggest he wanted to kill Claude. He had the gun held in a way as if he was bringing it up and out to aim.

The gun goes off as hes bringing it up. The gun goes off . He gives a confused look, then shock at what hes done , then he finishes what he believes he started. Something or someone else made that gun fire. At least to me it did.

[angeloo]

future peter? nahh jpjp that would be cool though

[HowardFilms]

He did it, but he was shocked he did. A lot of people react that way in movies and such. It's called good acting. He did shoot him out of reflex.

Besides, it's been said only one person has an ability, they are all different, and we already saw the TK guy.

Unless you're saying Peter goes back in time to do it, that's the only way I see it's possible. And I seriously doubt that's gonna happen.

[angeloo]

actually claude says to peter "oh youre one of them" meaning that there isnt only 1 type of person with certain abilities. atleast thats what im assuming that means

[HowardFilms]

No i think he meant a superpowered guy who wants to be trained. Given Peter's response i think the writers were trying to allude that Claude's trained others.

There was a quote, i forget what it was, that confirmed that, at least they believe, abilities are unique.

In any case, HRG made no other move about someone pulling the trigger for him, so it's doubtful, that's just grasping at straws.

[Chlarkerlover]

yeah, if it had been someone else, he would have at least shouted out or something. I think that he did pull the trigger, but he was suprised that he did. His duty kinda overpowered his friendship.

I think its awsome that him a claude were friends once. At least now we know why he's (claude) so bitter about...well, everything.

[FUZZYWOOKIEE]

If everything is as it seems and Claude was shot how did he survive? What happened to the bullets when he went invisible? Did they just fall out?

Regarding Peter and Claude there was talk between the two of them about others he had trained, but they also spoke of Peter being the ultimate creation or something to that effect. Maybe the "Company" is also doing genetic research trying to create an army of super beings.

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by FUZZYWOOKIEE
If everything is as it seems and Claude was shot how did he survive? What happened to the bullets when he went invisible? Did they just fall out?

It is possible to be shot and survive, especially in Claude's case where no major organs would've been hit. So I figured he'd just stagger to the nearest hospital and heal naturally.

[gameface25]

Other than Hiro's dad, I think this was the huge reveal of the episode. First, HRG def didn't want to shoot Claude. It was a very weird scene, and if he was really doing it, it would not have looked so awkward.

Second, know we know why Claude is so bitter. We also know that this "person" he was protecting will come into play later on for sure. Otherwise it would have been shown who it was and shown it being dealt with.

[Drolfin]

Originally posted by HowardFilms
Besides, it's been said only one person has an ability, they are all different, and we already saw the TK guy.

Actually, if you look at the list, you'll see that there are some doubles in powers, like premonition.

I wasn't paying enough attention when Claude was shot to confirm this, but did HRG shoot Claude in the same place he told the Haitian to shoot him in the last scene ("two inches higher and i'm dead")?

I think that HRG probably thought he was being watched, because it didn't seem like he shot Claude anywhere important. Perhaps he was trying to do Claude a favor?

[tglass1976]

I thought it seemed pretty clear that the first shot was unexpected. I think it was part of Claude's plan. We know that Claude knew that he was to be killed because he was hiding "one of them." It also seems that Claude is quite familiar with "Empaths" when he meets Peter. I would assume that the one he was hiding was an empath who was invisible on the Bridge and caused the first shot. It had to look like Claude was dead and out of the picture. I think Claude had it all set up to fake his death.

[Ginx]

I think it was just the shock of actually having pulled the trigger when her really didn't want to kill his friend.

[Chlarkerlover]

I agree with Ginx

[STFanatic]

The reaction of HRG shooting Claude is discussed in the Commentary on NBC Rewind.
They did some accidental spoilers from the writer & the director for next week in there too.

[Merfish]

Originally posted by Hockeyking
I was watching the show again tonight, when Mr. Bennett shot Claude he was shocked that the gun went off. Could there have been a telekinetic, or telepathic controlling Hrg.

Easy explination, Syler got Hiro, went back in time and telekinetifieded the gun

[FUZZYWOOKIEE]

Easy explination, Syler got Hiro, went back in time and telekinetifieded the gun

or Magneto was hiding under the bridge

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :lol: :p

[angeloo]

on the commentary he said no1 was there it was just good acting. he said he got that from of mice and men when sum1 shot sum1 to make it look like he didnt want to but he had to. and they also said that there was a deleted scene where claude was eating at HRGs house and it showed how close claude and HRG were at one point which makes me think thats why he chose to be close with claire mayb he felt sorry for him thinking he killed claude

[Merfish]

Originally posted by angeloo
on the commentary he said no1 was there it was just good acting. he said he got that from of mice and men when sum1 shot sum1 to make it look like he didnt want to but he had to. and they also said that there was a deleted scene where claude was eating at HRGs house and it showed how close claude and HRG were at one point which makes me think thats why he chose to be close with claire mayb he felt sorry for him thinking he killed claude

or is that just what they want you to think... exactly

[Chlarkerlover]

What? thats just over complicating Merfish

[warriorrenegade]

Originally posted by STFanatic
The reaction of HRG shooting Claude is discussed in the Commentary on NBC Rewind.
They did some accidental spoilers from the writer & the director for next week in there too.

What was discussed? Was it the gun flash that made him flinch , cause looking at it again that was a pretty big flash.

[STFanatic]

Jack Colman (HRG) said that he ad-libbed the scene, he used a scene in one of his favorite movies "Of Mice & Men" where someone on that movie reacted to shooting another character in the same way, it was not scripted, but the director liked it so much they left it in.