Peter vs Sylar and who will win?

[davron]

From last weeks Q&A session with the producers of Heroes the following question was asked;


Q: Coty Ellis brings up a fanboy dream match possibility. “What if Peter and Sylar went into an all-out slugfest? Is this just wishful, fanboy thinking, or can we expect a Peter/Sylar fight through New York, powers on high? Now that one thinks of it, a fight of that caliber could go on for days.” That could be some nasty, nasty, fun stuff!

A: Peter and Sylar fighting huh? You think America is ready for it? These two will fight more than once by the end of episode 23. Technically, more than twice. That's all we can say without giving up the farm. But how's that tickle your fanboy fancy?

For more Q&A go to the following link;

"HEROES" WEEK SIXTEEN
by Jonah Weiland, Executive Producer

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9712

[pat080580]

Eventually when they fight it's only fair to conclude that as long as Hiro is alive Peter should always win easily. As powerful as Sylar is, Peter will always be a little more powerful, unless Sylar can manage to kill every single hero on the show.

[chlo-el]

I was just thinking about them fighting because they both will have so many different powers. Peter has to do some seriouse damage to Sylar!

[Sweetie]

Peter would win agains Sylar.

[sebarbapapa]

I think Peter would kick his b... Don't forget he also can get Sylar's powers plus the ones he already has, so he is MUCH more powerful.

[chrisxs5]

But dont forget that Sylar can understand how things work, with that in mind he should be able to understand how Peter works a litle. Dont get me wrong I want Peter to win.

[LOONEY]

He can know how peter works all he wants he won't be able to catch him, hurt him , or hell even see him...how could he win?
Peter could turn invisible,fly or hover over to him, stop time, freeze him, then mentally rip off his limbs. He has all of sylars powers as is even that freeze power member'? Sylar could hear his heart beat but what can that do if he is paused in time? come on now the only way sylar could win is if he caught him sleeping and that would not work either Peter dreams the future and paints the future he would know he was coming...so no he can't ever win no matter what..

[shadow4486]

At first I would have said Sylar but Peter is learning to use his powers and would destroy Sylar. But would he know him if he saw Sylar?

[Drolfin]

What about how Peter passed out after he absorbed too many powers? Wasn't that because he has just been near Sylar? And if it wasn't, wouldn't the sheer number of Sylar's powers (the 6 that we've seen, plus whatever else) overload Peter? Especially with the hearing power now, i think that if Sylar gains full control of that power and then Peter absorbs it, it could provide just the advantage that Sylar would need.

[Superboy2]

That's true. I wonder if Peter absorbed the other powers besides telekinesis, minus melting metal and superhearing.

[chrisxs5]

I think Peters powers are his weakness and Sylar will be able to know that from knowing how Peter works.

[superpal1]

Peter would win. As soon as he came into the vicinity of Sylar, he would absorb his powers. No matter how many Sylar has, Peter would always match his. Also, Peter has those abilities of Heroes that Sylar has not killed to bring to the match as well. Peter all the way.

[biym6969]

obviously you guys are missing the most important power that peter has that sylar doesn't. go ahead guess which one??? then scroll down....unless someone said this already ignore it.






















































it's claire's ability to heal. Even if sylar is beating peter heavily, peter can do what he did before when he saved claire and throw sylar over the edge of a building, maybe even the empire state building. tell me who would survive that???

[Drolfin]

Except not. If Sylar could kill claire, then he could, in theory, kill Peter too.

[Superboy2]

Claire can be killed. She has died. Sylar could possibly kill Peter, but who knows?

[FUZZYWOOKIEE]

When they threw themselves off the school Sylar got up with barely a scratch and Peter had to heal. I think Sylar may have some kind of 'toughness' ability. Maybe he cannot heal himself but it may be an ability that keeps him from getting hurt easily.

[Sidious]

I love both these characters so I don't want to choose a winner.

After reading what you guys have said, I think Sylar could win. If Peter had his head cut off or his brain taken out then Sylar could win.

If people think that Peter being invisible would be much of an obstacle, it probably wouldn't (or wouldn't for me anyway). Sylar has telekinesis so he could always telekinetically lift all the dust in the area making a cloud of dust and the area that was empty would be where Peter is stood.

I'm not saying Sylar would win, in fact, because he's the bad guy, he probably won't. He could if he was quick enough and smart enough though.

[biym6969]

Originally posted by FUZZYWOOKIEE
When they threw themselves off the school Sylar got up with barely a scratch and Peter had to heal. I think Sylar may have some kind of 'toughness' ability. Maybe he cannot heal himself but it may be an ability that keeps him from getting hurt easily.

i guess your right i never thought of it like that, but nevertheless sylar wasn't able to heal that broken ankle of his. Besides it was the producers way of making it more dramatic than it really was. Anyone remember that fall, did sylar land on peter to soften the blow????


Originally posted by Sidious
I love both these characters so I don't want to choose a winner.

After reading what you guys have said, I think Sylar could win. If Peter had his head cut off or his brain taken out then Sylar could win.

If people think that Peter being invisible would be much of an obstacle, it probably wouldn't (or wouldn't for me anyway). Sylar has telekinesis so he could always telekinetically lift all the dust in the area making a cloud of dust and the area that was empty would be where Peter is stood.

I'm not saying Sylar would win, in fact, because he's the bad guy, he probably won't. He could if he was quick enough and smart enough though.

that maybe true about cutting peter's brain out, but anything sylar does so can peter. Why can't peter cut sylar's head off just the same??? Moreover, if peter is somehow able to absorb the guy's ability (don't know his name but he works for claire's father), peter can prevent sylar from using his gift.

[Sidious]

If you look at Claire, when she had the branch stuck in her head she was dead. When it got took out she came back to life.

So I'm guessing that if the brain was taken out, then Claire (or Peter) would die.

I don't think the Haitian's powers work on Sylar anymore. If you look back at the time when Sylar was locked up and he killed Eden, that shows that his powers weren't suppressed and I think it was because he saw the cockroach and understood how it can survive so well.

They don't normally show things like the cockroach for no reason. So I think that that was the turning point in his escape.

[Superboy2]

BUt what was the cage made out of? It's not like the Haitian slept outside of it. Plus

[christian_kryptonian]

Ok if Peter gets a seriou hold on his power, there is no way Sylar is going to beat him. I think it was Sylar who sent Perer's powers into overload before, but Peter is still stronger. It will be a great fight to see. They already fought before Peter freaking had any idea how to use his power.

[Superboy2]

So Peter may have the ice power, plus the memory thing. I think there a 4th power of Sylar's besides telekinesis. This of course is before Sylar got his next 2 powers.

[smallvillereporter27]

Sylar currently has much more control over his powers than Peter does. Sylar has known about what he can do longer and now has an effective way of getting more powers. However, Peter has the upper hand because he can just absorb everyone's powers instead of killing them. I think once Peter can better control his power than he could beat Sylar. But it is going to be one awesome and probably very long fight.

[chrisxs5]

Invisibility wont work because Sylar can hear Peters heart beat now. Of course right now Peter could yell and take Sylar to his knees. I think there will come a time when Peter will have to detoux his powers and start over so the fight would just depend on who has and knows how to control it at the time.

Oh and Peter could use telekinesis to create a counter sand storm to prevent him from being found.

[BTBoy]

Looks like Peter and Syler meet in "Like A Parasite" in Mohinder's apartment from the new shots posted. So Peter will catch up with syler again. Everyone talks that Syler has the advantage, but I think Peter does. He gets everyone he meets powers where as Syler only gets powers from those he kills. Because of this Peter has some Syler does not have and also has Syler's. He has Hiro's Time Control, Nathan's Flying, Isacc's vision's (and his own or was this from meeting Isacc), Claude's invisibility, Claire's healing, etc., etc. He could walk by a person with powers and have them. His powers seam to be bursting out with his emotions, so he could create a wild blast of power when really pissed off. He also has tehm in the off position be default, so in the super hearing case he has the advantage.

Also, as we have just seen in this last episode he is getting some control, but it seams like his emotions get carried away with the use of his power. I think he manifests the emotion of the original power holder or who he got them from when he uses them. Many now have come from Syler and Nathan may be little dark or angry. Power corrupts?

[angeloo]

i think they show how different they set out to learn powers... sylar abserves everyone to see how they use theyre power so when he gets it he has a better understanding of what it does and how to use it as with peter he might not know how powerful a power can get so he cant use it to its full potential(as with a power like hiros)

i still dont think they fight though theyre the 2 most powerful heroes and i still dont think sylar is all that bad even though he does kill a lot of people... hes trying to prove hes "special" i think once he proves that he might want to actually help or something lol

[Dusk919]

Does anyone know if the show has any plans to do an episode that fully showcases all the different abilities Sylar has. I really want to know!

Also, I think they should devote an entire episode to their final fight, whenever that is. Seems like the only way to do it justice.

[Dpyro]

if sylar killed peter who else is that strong to even be an opponent to sylar and if they do ever fight i dont think its going to be that easy for peter cause if they fought right now then peter would kick his a ss so i think there is going to be a little more to it

[Superboy2]

They fight at least twice before the finale, so my guess is Syalr will win the first one(bad guy always wins the first round). Then Peter will start winning. The only thing is, does Syalr neccesarily have to kill in order to get the power? Peter also has telekinesis, mind reading and I think there was also another one. So someone actually thinks Sylar isn't so bad? Trying to prove he;s special? Hitler thought he was too. Look how that turned up.

[Dpyro]

its already to late for him to be good again he killed too many people... and i think that peter might have eden's power i mean i dont think they'll let a power like that go to waste

[biym6969]

Originally posted by Superboy2
BUt what was the cage made out of? It's not like the Haitian slept outside of it. Plus

i agree whole heartedly. Eden caught sylar off guard and the producers actually showed haitian with her. the second time, i think she let her emotions get the best of her and try to take him alone. Similiar to Claire's father (not good with names) where he also let his emotions get the best of him, as he busted into the room to confront sylar.

[nafeasonto]

Peter will win EASILY. I cannot wait to to see the battle. Whatever Peter is near he will just absorb it easily. Once he realizes he has the power he will use it against Sylar.

[chrisxs5]

True but he needs time to learn it and how to use it. Meaning he only goes into the fight with what he has. He could of course learn a new one quick enough if he saw how it worked.

[SuckMyJagon]

im thinking dales super hearing is gonna be a big handicap for peter when he unknowingly absorbs it from sylar

[Merfish]

This fight between them probably ont happen n the first season, but if it does it would be hard to tell who would win, cause when the get close peter would get his powers, but he wouldn't know he all of them, because in the past episode it is shown that peter knows that sylar is telekinetic, nothing else, so unless Sylar gives peter a list of his powers its gonna be pretty hard to beat him, so Sylar could subtly us his superhearing or his memory powers, and also Sylar has expressed his power to levitate when he killed the mechanic superhearer
PS:If the Hatian were to try to wipe Sylar's memory, would it work?

[pat080580]

They will meet more then twice before the season is over according to the shows creators. I expect them to battle in next weeks episode.

[PowerofPetrelli]

They are supposed to meet again next eppy.

Yeah in the preview they showed last night during L&O SVU Sylar sees Peter and says " I remember you" then you hear Peter screaming.

[BTBoy]

They meet at Mohindar's Appartment for the shots I have seen.

Here is the big difference between Syler and Peter:

When Syler gets a power it is ON and he has to deal with it.
When Peter gets a Power it is OFF and he turns it on or has to access it to use it. When he is angry he obviously can combine the use of powers as when he was attacking Isacc. I think it was more due to his anger than anything that he could do this. His powers are deeply tied to his emotions. That is also how they can get out of control.

[angeloo]

Originally posted by BTBoy
They meet at Mohindar's Appartment for the shots I have seen.

Here is the big difference between Syler and Peter:

When Syler gets a power it is ON and he has to deal with it.
When Peter gets a Power it is OFF and he turns it on or has to access it to use it. When he is angry he obviously can combine the use of powers as when he was attacking Isacc. I think it was more due to his anger than anything that he could do this. His powers are deeply tied to his emotions. That is also how they can get out of control.

good point i never thought of peters powers like that.. i think they are like that to a point but i think his powers turn on when he needs then more then emotions, like when he did TK on the stick he didnt even know he could do it, and when he healed when he fell off the roof. also matt and claudes abilities came to him ON... but u can say that the TK and healing are due to emotions cause his emotions can say TK when hes in trouble and heal when hes bout to hurt.

[Superboy2]

My guess is Sylar will catch Peter off guard, and or Peter will not be able to harness the new powers. The bad guy always wins first, and we see the underdog start to win.

[BTBoy]

Originally posted by angeloo also matt and claudes abilities came to him ON Yes, all powers are on when he is whith the original power holder, but when he is away from them they are off or at least dormant. We could say the healing turned on for fear of dying, but it may also be because Claire's power is one that is always on. So Claire's power is passive and his brother's is active. If you noticed in Nathan's accident with his wife, he flew out before they crashed becasue he was scared. Same thing when HRG & the Haitian tryed to get him in Vegas. My thought is that if the power can be switched it goes to OFF when he is not using it.

[Dusk919]

I've been thinking about it and what if Sylar did kill Peter and took his power? Would Peter's empathy change Sylar's views on people with abilities?

[chrisxs5]

Peters empathy with people is an emotion and not a power, I dont think Sylar can take that.

[BTBoy]

Well it may be part of power in that he can feel other's emotions as well as the power's of those with them. He may be channeling the anger of others when we have seen him very angry.

[biym6969]

Originally posted by BTBoy
Well it may be part of power in that he can feel other's emotions as well as the power's of those with them. He may be channeling the anger of others when we have seen him very angry.

now your jumping into the world of Highlander. :lol:

[BTBoy]

May be. I lost track of Highlander mythology after the second movie through everything out the window.

P.S. I have seen tonights episode (ran in Canada last night, not that I am there ;-) ) and we definately get the next meeting of the two and more answers to other questions. A lot happens and a lot of surprizes.

[Kalel33076]

Well...looks like Sylar gets the first shot in

[BTBoy]

Well I guess that is the scar and the end of that lock of hair in his face.

[angeloo]

sylar gets the first shot in because peter wasnt ready, i think peter :rotfl: him up

[BTBoy]

Yep. I think they cut there because that is where the real battle begins. Peter will get him back good I have a feeling. Syler is overconfident that he is the superior to everyone. He needs to be taught a lesson. We already know Peter survives. I wonder how bad the scar is becasue with Clairs powers he should be able to be scarless, unless it takes more out of him battleing Syler or because of the nature of the cut. I suspect Mohinder survives too because of Peter.

[angeloo]

wat im thinking is its a scar from birth or something because he should be able to heal just from pain like he did when he fell from the cab, like it should be more of a reaction or protection not a turn on turn off power because then that would be very stupid

[Dusk919]

Maybe he didn't have the healing power in the future and that's why he had one then because Claire was probably killed by Sylar and Peter never got a chance to get her ability. Maybe...

[BTBoy]

But he would have gotten it from Syler when they met here and he would have survived this attack because of it, but may have not had good control since new power???

[angeloo]

well this fight would might not have happened because they didnt save the chearleader meaning sylar might not have been caught by HRG cause he wouldnt have been running and everything wouldve been changed :D

and as ive posted on a differ peter v sylar topic or something like that i think the only weakness peter has is that he isnt violent, like sylar would go all out not caring about peter but peter might not want to hurt people, even tho some1 trying to split his head open might be enough for him to be violent... but just saying

[Dusk919]

I think maybe Nathan will get killed at some point and then Peter will go off on anybody who looks at him cross-eyed

[angeloo]

lol i doubt that i think nathan will have a lot to do with everything in future epi and seasons seeing how hes going to be the first president to fly :rotfl:

[Dusk919]

Probably, but it'd be interesting to see Peter wig out if he did die though. Then he'd be like Clark on silver kryptonite.(Sorta) Maybe more like red kryptonite.

[angeloo]

well in a way peter bugging out is like sylar now since there powers are similar, meaning they can have more then 1. i would think that if peter would be in for more seasons they would have episodes where his powers are to much for him and take control of him somehow.. that would be kool lol

[Dusk919]

Yeah. I had this really wierd idea that if Peter absorbed Niki's power after he had killed Sylar then maybe he would start seeing Sylar in the mirror and the Sylar would take him over and he would be....duh duh duh Pyler!

[angeloo]

lol that would be kool but i doubt nikkis power is like that i think its just like an inner struggle she has within herself like spiderman and his alterego(black costume forgot what its called lol)

[Dusk919]

Symbiote. Yeah I think she just has superstrength and her multiple personality is just a way to cope with it and call on it when she needs it, but I can still dream.

Pyler. Hehe.

[Kryptoshelby]

Peter will win

[ShadowVessel]

In raw power? Peter. He's been my favorite character on the show since the beginning (he does seem to be the Clark Kent in more ways than one) but I have to say his weakness is that he has to access each power by remembering how each person made him feel. But, since that rule does seem to be nil whenever he's flipping out that would cancel out the weakness. Unfortunately, with Simone's death hanging over his head (like another Peter's Uncle Ben) he may be more reluctant to lose emotional control like that again. He's learning the hard way that with great power comes great responsability. Sylar's just crazy and doesn't have this hang up. Peter's hesitation in a crucial moment could very well cost him the fight. And this is Heroes where genuinely "No One is Safe".

So... has it been confirmed that Peter's returning for Season 2? I've seen two Sylar spoilers that contradict one another. One says he's coming back for S2, the other says he's being pushed out of a window and dying. WTF?

[Dusk919]

Maybe with time he won't have to remember how the person made him feel. Maybe it will be like it was with Clark when he got Heat Vision. He had to think about sex at first but once he got control, he could do it without thinking about sex.

[angeloo]

its not always emotions and stuff sumtimes its more of a reaction then anything or his powers just take over when hes in danger... like when him and sylar first met he used sylars tk to move the lockers sylar threw at him

[Merfish]

Does anyone realize that it would be a GOOD thing if Sylar won, Sylar would have the peter main ability and instead of finding and killing people on the list, he could just find them and like go up to them and then he'd get their power, Sylar hasn't shown any selfishness over those wo had powers, he just wanted their power and taking their brains is the only way he can do it. So I say Sylar should win

[Superboy2]

He still killed a bunch of people, cause he's power hungry, and he isn't doing it for the greater good.

[angeloo]

Originally posted by Merfish
Does anyone realize that it would be a GOOD thing if Sylar won, Sylar would have the peter main ability and instead of finding and killing people on the list, he could just find them and like go up to them and then he'd get their power, Sylar hasn't shown any selfishness over those wo had powers, he just wanted their power and taking their brains is the only way he can do it. So I say Sylar should win

sylar might still kill people if he had peters power just so no1 else would be like him, i think thats the only reason hes doing it

[Chlark07]

I'm definitely rooting for Peter!!! Screw Sylar haha. :D

[Superboy2]

Didn't Sylar say he can't control it, so maybe he will eventually want to stop, but since he has all the powers at once unlike Peter, he may feel overwhlemed and want it to stop before his head explodes. Maybe that'll be an arc. His head explodes and all of his powers destroy the world.

[Dusk919]

Looks like round one goes to Sylar.

Or was that technically round two?

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by Merfish
Does anyone realize that it would be a GOOD thing if Sylar won, Sylar would have the peter main ability and instead of finding and killing people on the list, he could just find them and like go up to them and then he'd get their power, Sylar hasn't shown any selfishness over those wo had powers, he just wanted their power and taking their brains is the only way he can do it. So I say Sylar should win
I dont know, I think stealing peoples brains and their A-1 sauce is kindve selfish!

[pat080580]

In the current time line Sylar will always have an advantage because Peter's personality isn't one that likes killing. Sylar has NO problem with it.

[Superboy2]

Peter has no problem with killing Peter, especially since I'm guessing Sylar will kill Nathan at one point.

[pat080580]

Originally posted by Superboy2
Peter has no problem with killing Peter, especially since I'm guessing Sylar will kill Nathan at one point.

That hasn't happened yet, Peter isn't that guy with the scar, he's the nurse who just happens to have a lot of power. He has no instinct to kill otherwise he would have beaten Sylar in the apartment. Sylar won because he went for the kill.

[Superboy2]

Sorry I meant to say Peter has no problem killing Sylar. I think Peter will in S2

[chrisxs5]

Good, we almost called a party foul! :D