Not all meteor freaks are bad.

[Riggs32]

so in the last scene with chloe and clark, she mentions that shes a time bomb because everyone with meteor abilities becomes evil. im pretty sure that theres an example of a non evil meteor freak in this VERY EPISODE. that blind guy used his power wrong but he wasnt necassarily evil at all because he didnt know he was helping the bad guys. also, if i remember correctly there was a kid like 2 or 3 seasons back with the ability to heal people. he thought he was from krypton and built that big tower in the field? also what about the one dude who could see your future by touching you? or the old blind lady who could see your future. im sure theres more people with kryptonite abilities that arn't evil at all, anyone remember some others?

[SuperWood]

It wasn't just that they become evil...they also end up dead, or in the funny farm. Whether they belong there or not.
Awesome line though..."I'll be your personal bomb squad"
GO CHLARK!

[HowardFilms]

Is that true? Has no Metoer Freak made it?

[arob21]

She said that people with meteor powers are either dead or in Belle Reeve and two of the guys you mentioned was one or the other.

The guy who could heal suffered a complete mental breakdown, the old lady died the future sight dude lost his power but made it.

[Riggs32]

YAY future sight dude rocks lol. hes the only one i can think of thats ever made it through an episode . they made him lose his power but he didnt want it anyways , imagine tryin to put the moves on a girl and everytime u get close to her you see her dying thatd be a buzz kill haha

[boogiebear]

Not everyone that has been exposed to the meteors have been bad. I liked the guy in the bowling alley. He was polite, gave the girls some pointers about bowling, and using his power increased Lana's confidence so she could bowl better. When he was told that the woman he was flirting with was taken, he politely backed off. He seemed like a nice guy. Tobias was a nice guy. He did not know his power was being misused.
I know most of the freaks of the weeks that Clark had to deal with were not wonderful citizens, and that is why we know about them, but all those dots that were disappearing could not have been that bad, or Chloe would have known more about them.

I did find the scene with Clark comforting Chloe, adorable.

[RedKRules]

Of course not all are bad............look at Chloe .....she is great !!

[chlo-el]

My only problem w/ this ep. Is that Chloe thought all Freaks were bad. From season 5 and sometimes in s6 I didn't get that from her. If she thought meteor freaks were always so bad all of the time then why has she been working so hard on 33.1 to put it to justice and why did she help free them from 33.1 in Justice.
The scene when Chloe and Lana had that discussion and Lana was telling Chloe that they all weren't bad and Chloe said all of the ones she met were was weird to me and it seemed the complete opposite conversation that Chloe and Lana had in Static when Lana thought that having a 33.1 lab expermenting on meteor freaks was ok.

I understand why Chloe would be scared and she has met a lot of meteor freaks that either end up dead or in Belle Reeve. But what about Andrea? She worked w/ her in the Vengence Chronicles and she was a meteor freak.
And she made that about it's not what they were that defines them but what they did with their powers.

I understand Chloe would be scared about being a meteor freak I just didn't think she would think that they were all bad.

[Mischael12]

She doesn't necessarily believe they are bad--but she does note that the ones she has met tend to go crazy in the end--or do something harmful--i think her words were just spoken weird i think it was meant more in a context that she will betray or hurt someone whether she wants too or not.

[hanemg]

Kyle from "Hug" wasn't a bad guy and actually saved Clark and he made it out alive and with his powers.

I think it really does depend on the person. If they're selfish and evil they use their power to selfish and evil ends. So far we've seen the selfish and evil ones along with the ones that simply try to mind their own business and keep to themselves. It probably is only a matter of time before we see someone being a hero.

TPTB might actually use this as a way to explain Chloe's absence from the scene in the future as having learned of her powers (which I still bet will be used as an explanation for her hacking skills) she decides to quit reporting and devote herself to some larger good like Clark.

That said, I agree that Chloe's take on "Meteor Freaks" is a bit out of character considering the ones she does know about that weren't bad. But then again...has Chloe ever actually met one that wasn't bad? Clark has, but I can't remember if Chloe was ever actually around at those times.

[xrayvision]

I think it depends on the person, but I wouldn't suggest jumping to conclusions that Chloe is a freak yet. That scene was very ambiguous. It could be that he saw Clark as the abnormal one. If Clark moved as fast as he did to pick up his glasses and then stand up, Tobias could have thought that Clark was still down and he was looking at Chloe.

This is another plot twist to make us wonder what Chloe's destiny is as was the insanity twist we got in Scare.

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

I didnt get the impression that Chloe thought meteor freaks were bad. MOST of them just ended up DEAD or INSANE. That's what I got from what she said.

[TheoristMaximus]

Krypto-Freaks are not inherently evil, the only ones which are even driven to evil by their power are the "vampires (im using this term for those that feed on others)" such as the fat sucking vampire or heat sucking vampire in season 1, or the age sucking vampire in season 2 or the more literal vampires in season 5.

Everyone else who turns evil after gaining powers just falls to the old cliche:

"power corrupts"

They have super powers, an average person with super powers is most likely gonna abuse them for personal gain, I sure as hell would. :lol:

[BlueNRed2]

There are a few examples of "good" meteor freaks that seem to have walked away unharmed.

Cant remember which Kyle was in hug but seems like there was they guy that accidently wiped Clarks memory. He was a little misguided but didnt appear to be evil. He parted ways with Clark.

There was the salesman guy that could influence you with a handshake that helped Clark beat his old buddy with the same ability. "I always was the better salesman...".

Also, i wouldnt call the angel of vengeance girl evil. She did commit an evil act out of revenge but i didnt get "evil villian" vibes from her. Seems like she was a meteor freak, at least her heart came from one. Think she survived unless her story went south with the cell phone mini stories?!

Id bet there are more too..

[Iowa_Gent]

I just hope they don't use this to give Chloe some powers and have her leave the series to go fight evil with Oliver. I love Chloe in the series and don't want to see this used to write out of the series.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by TheoristMaximus
Krypto-Freaks are not inherently evil, the only ones which are even driven to evil by their power are the "vampires (im using this term for those that feed on others)" such as the fat sucking vampire or heat sucking vampire in season 1, or the age sucking vampire in season 2 or the more literal vampires in season 5.

Everyone else who turns evil after gaining powers just falls to the old cliche:

"power corrupts"

They have super powers, an average person with super powers is most likely gonna abuse them for personal gain, I sure as hell would. :lol:

Well, Jodi Melville, the fat sucking vampire was not evil, just misguided. It was a side effect of poisoning she had. She wasn't even really a freak, I don't think. I think given enough time for that stuff to pass out her system, she would return to normal. She did mostly eat food and not humans (though she did suck the fat out of that guy who threw the ball at her). She didn't kill anyone either.

Sean Kelvin was evil. I know he was freezing, but he could have tried to get his heat from other sources. He did kill his former girlfriend and tried to kill Chloe.

Age sucking vampire, aka Chrissy from Redux was not a freak, though she was evil. I don't know where she got her powers from, but she got them in the early 1900's or late 1800's, way before there was kryptonite. Remember how Chloe tracked her throughout the years.

I agree that everyone else falls into the power corrupts (those who used their powers for evil). There were many good ones:

Jordan Cross
Kyle Tippett
Cassandra Carver
Ryan James
Kevin Grady
Karen Gallagher (Evan's mother)
Evan
Andrea (the Angel of Vengeance)
Yang (from the Vengeance Chronicles)

[Metropolis Hero]

What was the kid's name from "Hereafter" in season 3? The one that saw a glimpse of people's deaths when he touched them... He turned out alright.

[xrayvision]

Jordan Cross.

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by chlo-el
The scene when Chloe and Lana had that discussion and Lana was telling Chloe that they all weren't bad and Chloe said all of the ones she met were was weird to me and it seemed the complete opposite conversation that Chloe and Lana had in Static when Lana thought that having a 33.1 lab expermenting on meteor freaks was ok.

I got the impression in that scene that Chloe was being negative in order to throw off Lana about Clark.


Originally posted by xrayvision
Age sucking vampire, aka Chrissy from Redux was not a freak, though she was evil. I don't know where she got her powers from, but she got them in the early 1900's or late 1800's, way before there was kryptonite. Remember how Chloe tracked her throughout the years.

But since then, we've learnt that Kryptonite was on earth before the 20th Century (legend of Numan bringing "glowing green stones", the temple in "Sacred"), so she possibly could've been a meteor-freak.

[xrayvision]

^^Good point. I guess we'll never know for sure.

[Coyote]

The meteor infection very often appears to have a degenerative effect on the mind. A very high percentage of the freaks do wind up violent psychotics, but there are a few that still seemed to be mentally OK the last time we saw them. Maybe the mental effects never appear in some freaks, possibly because of the individual's genetic makeup, or some environmental factor. Or maybe they all become mentally ill eventually, but it takes longer to happen in some cases. Since Chloe may have already inherited a genetic tendency to mental illness from her mother, in addition to whatever effects the kryptonite may have, she probably has good reason to be worried.

[TheoristMaximus]

Eh yeah theres no proof the age sucking vampire was a krypto-freak, i just lumped all those horrible vampire episodes together for the point I was attempting to make.

I dont think the heat sucker was really any eviler then the fat sucker, he was definitely jerkier about it though.

The heat sucker attempted to get heat from a camp fire and matches and so on, but it wasn't enough, he was dying of cold and couldn't get a decent fix from anything but humans.

The fat sucker likewise attempted at first to get fat from other sources, aka food, but resorted to humans as well, I kinda assumed that guy she fat-sucked died like right after, he seemed in really bad shape, but I don't think they ever actually address his health again.

[Heilige]

Originally posted by Coyote
The meteor infection very often appears to have a degenerative effect on the mind. A very high percentage of the freaks do wind up violent psychotics, but there are a few that still seemed to be mentally OK the last time we saw them. Maybe the mental effects never appear in some freaks, possibly because of the individual's genetic makeup, or some environmental factor. Or maybe they all become mentally ill eventually, but it takes longer to happen in some cases. Since Chloe may have already inherited a genetic tendency to mental illness from her mother, in addition to whatever effects the kryptonite may have, she probably has good reason to be worried.


The meteor infection does NOT have a degenerative effect on the mind. You have no proof at all. Those people were already psychos before they got infected. It just brings it out of them. I think on the Season 1 DVD there was commentary regarding this issue. They talked about it in the 2nd episode regarding Bugboy. They said somemthing to the effect of how that those people already have those mental problems. Maybe somebody can help me out here. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

[xrayvision]

Well Chloe said:

You know, if you hadn't been there, he probably would have died, Clark.

So based on that I took it to mean that Clark was a hero, and it was likely that Dustin (the fat suckee) lived through the ordeal. He went into shock because of losing all that fat. I'm guessing they started feeding him slowly to get him back to his old weight. I dunno.

I think Coyote is right though because Jodi did warn Pete to get away before attacking him and it seems like she was forced into doing it because it messed with her mind. There was a Jekyll-Hyde effect. And it seems like she had a good upbringing.

[Heilige]

Originally posted by xrayvision
Well Chloe said:

You know, if you hadn't been there, he probably would have died, Clark.

So based on that I took it to mean that Clark was a hero, and it was likely that Dustin (the fat suckee) lived through the ordeal. He went into shock because of losing all that fat. I'm guessing they started feeding him slowly to get him back to his old weight. I dunno.

I think Coyote is right though because Jodi did warn Pete to get away before attacking him and it seems like she was forced into doing it because it messed with her mind. There was a Jekyll-Hyde effect. And it seems like she had a good upbringing.


So does that mean Lex is right in doing 33.1?

[TheoristMaximus]

Theres enough proof from all the non-murdering non-psycho meteor freaks that exist.

How about the telekinetic guy in Freak?

He seemed perfectly normal.

The only reason there is such a high ratio of villianous freaks is because... DUH its thematically appropriate! You need to have badguys for Clark to beat up, thats what he does

[xrayvision]

I'm not sure. In Jodi's case, it seems like the rocks did something to her, but there is no proof that she was a freak. I'm guessing given time to allow the kryptonite to purge from her system, she may return to normal. It could be that she was very hungry and didn't want to attack Pete and warned him, but when he got too close, she couldn't resist attacking him anymore.

The ones who have to kill to survive (the "vampire" types as TheoristMaximus put it) are a danger to society. Instead of trapping them, I guess Lex should try to find a way to cure them. But he is instead using them to do his bidding (creating an army of them as Ollie said).

But the others do what they do as a result of their own will. Some of them get corrupted with all the power they have (like Eric Summers who was not a freak, but instead used kryptonite to steal Clark's powers and then the power got to his head and ruined his life). I think for the ones that don't need to drain something from others to stay alive, it mainly depends on upbringing and how they handle the power they have. Dan from the bowling alley posed no threat. He could have been in a much more powerful position/job had he used his powers, but instead he chose to live life honestly and work at the bowling alley. Compare him to Justin Gaines from Crush and you'll see the differences in 2 freaks with the same power.

[Coyote]

Lex thinks he's right for that reason, but even if these people do have mental problems, Lex's treatment of them in this episode was over the line.

Homicidal psychotics are very rare in the general population, but very common among meteor freaks. It's an observable symptom of their condition. If we see most people who catch a cold getting a runny nose, it's safe to conclude that runny noses are a symptom of colds. If we see most people who are meteor infected become mentally ill, at a far greater frequency than would be normal for a small town like Smallville if it didn't have the meteors, it's a reasonable conclusion that mental illness is a symptom of the meteor infection.

[Mr.Magic]

@Coyote
I have yet to see a K-Mutant go mentally ill from the radiation itself. I've seen alot of them go bonkers to get with Lana. Most of them were perfectly fine before. Therefore I blame Lana, she just brings that out in people. :p

Seriously though, I just can't agree with your conclusion.
Most people have issues, they just lack the power to do something about it. Add to that frustration some power like telekinesis, that makes you feel like you can achieve anything (and should get anything you want). "Man is a narcissistic species by nature." - Mohinder Suresh
Let me simplify. What would you do with all that power?

ps: A good portion of the whack jobs on Smallville aren't even meteor infected.

[Mac55]

That guy was crazy though. and Chloe made the statement that all meteor freaks were evil or crazy. the former is true for that kid. But there were good freaks. "Ryan" who could read minds, "Evan" who was a second gen freak, that lana and Clark saved. Im sure a bunch of people who were abducted by lex were good, or at least staying low key. Plus we dont know who or how many people are being held in 33.1.... Chloe was just referencing a whole bunch of people who tried to Kill her.. lol Would be cool if she does get a cool power though.. step out of the side kick role a bit.

[clois_lover10]

Chloe would never turn evil, even if she did develop special powers. There have been several good meteor freaks anyway, so I'm not too concerned about evil corrupting her- she's strong enough to pull through mostly anything.

[cloisinmyheart]

they planned it so she'd say that and then find out she was one right after.
nicely written

[smallvillefreak24]

all of them HAVE ended up in belle reeve or dead.. it seems while thinking about it that they could just go on living w/ their power, but i guess smallville insists on extermination

[xrayvision]

No they have not. Jordan Cross & Kyle Tippet never ended up like that. Same with Kevin Grady. We still don't know what happened to Yang from the Vengeance Chronicles. It would be great if they brought him in for an episode. He had cool powers (could manipulate any type of energy).

[freefall]

They even mentioned a mechanic who had never went psycho in Extinction, and if wasn't for that Army guy who wanted to wipe out the freaks, he'd definitely still be alive and well.

[Coyote]

Mental illness doesn't come from being "good" or "bad", any more than you get a cold or any other disease from being good or bad. If Chloe is infected there is a very good chance that she will become mentally ill, and she would have no control over that, or over her actions once she does.

Some of the mutants didn't show any signs of being mentally ill yet, at the point we last saw them. So it is possible that certain people have different levels of resistance to the disease, and maybe a small percentage of K mutants never get that particular symptom, and remain mentally stable. This may be because of the particular individual's body chemistry, and how it reacts to the kryptonite radiation, or because of some factor in that individual's environment.

It's also possible that they all become mentally ill eventually, but some of them take longer to reach that point in the disease. They still appear normal now, but it won't last. This is apparently what Chloe herself thinks, and she has been studying the freaks for many years and knows a lot about them.

[Krypton935]

the majority are bad but they have something in their past and they want revenge and go pshycho(usually) but chloe is a good person and nothing can change that. it all depends on the person.

[347Studboy]

Originally posted by Mac55
But there were good freaks. "Ryan" who could read minds...

Was it ever proved that Ryan was a meteor freak? I thought his powers were an unforseen benefit of the brain tumor or whatever that was killing him, like in the movie "Phenomenon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117333/)".

In any event, I agree that it is likely, or at least possible, that Kryptonite infection carries with it some sort of degenerative mental disease. It's not really that far-fetched; there are studies of the effects of radiation on people that suggest mental illness could be caused by exposure.

To wit:

http://autoimmunedisease.suite101.com/article.cfm/sun_cycles_and_autoimmune_disease
http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/radiation.html
http://www.gsf.de/neu/Aktuelles/Presse/2005/Hiroshima-Nagasaki_en.php

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Krypton935
the majority are bad but they have something in their past and they want revenge and go pshycho(usually) but chloe is a good person and nothing can change that. it all depends on the person.

That's true. The first freak--Jeremy Creek---wanted revenge on the guys who strung him up as the scarecrow and anyone else who did the same to others. When he lost his memory, he became a good guy again. I always assumed that he also lost his powers, but they never made it clear.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by Coyote
Mental illness doesn't come from being "good" or "bad", any more than you get a cold or any other disease from being good or bad. If Chloe is infected there is a very good chance that she will become mentally ill, and she would have no control over that, or over her actions once she does.

You have absolutely no proof of that and we have only our experiences from watching the show from which we can draw. As is has been pointed out in this thread, there are NUMEROUS examples of meteor freaks that did not suffer from any sort of mental illness. I think the most likely reason for the errant behavior of certain meteor affect persons is the corrupting influence of meteor powers in combination with some underlying mental instability. Let's face it, many of the meteor infected had to deal with personal issues on some level after receiving their powers or being affected by meteor rock under very adverse conditions.


Some of the mutants didn't show any signs of being mentally ill yet, at the point we last saw them. So it is possible that certain people have different levels of resistance to the disease, and maybe a small percentage of K mutants never get that particular symptom, and remain mentally stable. This may be because of the particular individual's body chemistry, and how it reacts to the kryptonite radiation, or because of some factor in that individual's environment.

That's fine but it is utter speculation on your part.


It's also possible that they all become mentally ill eventually, but some of them take longer to reach that point in the disease. They still appear normal now, but it won't last. This is apparently what Chloe herself thinks, and she has been studying the freaks for many years and knows a lot about them.

Chloe has never said this outright. She has pointed out the fact that many meteor freaks have exhibited tendencies towards violence and aggresion, but the correlation of meteor infection to these incidents is not proof of causation especially in light of countervailing examples where meteor infected persons displayed no signs of mental instability.

[ginnyfan]

I think this is very cool because it takes the idea of meteor freaks from an abstract to a reality for the main characters of the show. It's one thing to think in your head, "Yeah being a freak doesn't make someone evil." It's another thing to have a meteor freak best friend (Clark) or look in the mirror and see a freak (Chloe). It's really interesting.

I'm excited to see where this goes. It'll be fun once Chloe gets used to it. And it gives Clark a chance to step up to the plate and be a really supportive friend to Chloe as she's often been to him in hard times. :)

[Nospam]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
I think this is very cool because it takes the idea of meteor freaks from an abstract to a reality for the main characters of the show. It's one thing to think in your head, "Yeah being a freak doesn't make someone evil." It's another thing to have a meteor freak best friend (Clark) or look in the mirror and see a freak (Chloe). It's really interesting.

I'm excited to see where this goes. It'll be fun once Chloe gets used to it. And it gives Clark a chance to step up to the plate and be a really supportive friend to Chloe as she's often been to him in hard times. :)

Yes, very true. Chloe has consistently been very depreciatory of meteor freaks and meteor infection in general. It will be intersting to see how Chloe confronts her own prejudices.

[Absolute Kingdom]

To be quite honest I didn't expect a reaction like that from Chloe. How many times has she said that meteor powers should be considered a gift instead of a curse? Didn't she enjoy her power in Truth? She was too paranoid for no reason and acting completely out of character IMO. The writers should have known better.

[Jetta]

^ I completely agree, her statements in this episode bothered me greatly and were very out of character. She was completely cool with it when she thought that Clark was a meteor freak in season 4. Also, she knew the girl from Fragile that could control glass never went evil. She also classified the Angel of Vengeance as a hero in the Vengenance Chronicles. I found the writing in this episode horrible, the did a complete reversal between Lana and Chloe, making Lana the understanding one now and Chloe the prejudiced one.

[Coyote]

Chloe considers Clark's powers to be a gift and not a curse. But Clark is not a meteor mutant.

Chloe has investigated a large number of meteor mutants for many years, and has seen a very high percentage of them become mentally ill and dangerous. Mental illness has nothing to do with being a "good person" or "going evil." It's a disease. If someone has this disease, there is nothing they can do to control it, any more than they could control the flu. There is in fact all sorts of proof for that. The entire modern psychiatric profession is based on treating mental illness as an illness and not a moral flaw.

Chloe herself says that she is a "time bomb." This is a realistic attitude, considering her considerable knowledge of meteor mutants. Chloe is smart enough not to go into denial about her situation. Maybe everything will turn out OK for her, but she has enough common sense to recognize that there is a very good possibility that she could become dangerous to herself and others.

It will be entertaining to see what the writers do with this plotline. It certainly is possible that they could simply have Chloe gain a fun cool power, become a super hero, and live happily ever after. But if they were going to do that, they probably wouldn't bother to bring up that "time bomb" stuff at all. My impression from that is that they are setting up a rough road ahead for Chloe.

[Loislvesclark]

Chloe has reason to be stressed out over it. Enough people do lose it or die, but I don't think she would. There are definitely examples of people who don't use thier powers for evil.

[Kat_Halliwell]

One thing is to be supportive and understanding with meteor freaks and other is to be a meteor freak yourself.
Maybe Chloe panicked because she didn't know what was going to happen to her nor what kind of powers she was going to develop (if any).

I know most meteor freaks were shown to be crazy and/or killers. But not all of them were like that. What about the guy from Hug? The one with the persuasion power. He lived in isolation just so he wouldn't hurt anyone.
I think it really depends on the person, but I got to admit it was kind of a shocker to hear Chloe say that. One would think she knew better...

[margroks]

Kyle Tippet became a hermit so he wouldn't have to interact with other people and be tempted yet he's alive as far as we know. There was the guy Chloe thought had stretching ability who worked on her car and was benign until Van McNuklty killed him. And there was Jeremy from the pilot who was angry and hurting people but was apparently made normal after his encounter with Clark when he saved everyone at the dance. Not all are evil and Chloe, if she does have abilities, is proof of that. There may be lots of people who were affected but chose to hide for obvious reasons.

[Kat_Halliwell]

Exactly.
Another good example is that kid from Hereafter, Jordan Cross. The kid had the power of premonition. Yet, he didn't go crazy nor killed anyone. Quite the contrary, he helped save that gym professor and Lana and her friend from a fire.

[smallvilletbr]

I think that this is just another way to exploit Chloe’s mortal fear of becoming like her mother and ending up in a mental institution.

Oh and by the way, the kid was not a meteor freak. He had a tumor in his brain that caused him to have the power of premonition.

[347Studboy]

Jordan Cross? No, he was a meteor freak. The tumor kid was Ryan James.

[ignitesmyveins]

I didnt see many people metion Ryan from "stray"and "ryan'' on here. he was good. that little girl that could shatter glass was good too. i think chloe just meant that they always hurt the ones they care about or themselves.

ryan was a meteor freak. he developed a tumor due to the pressure his power caused on his brain and the testing done on him at belle reeve.

[347Studboy]

Originally posted by ignitesmyveins
I didnt see many people metion Ryan from "stray"and "ryan'' on here. he was good.

I mentioned him in the post just above yours.


Originally posted by ignitesmyveins
ryan was a meteor freak. he developed a tumor due to the pressure his power caused on his brain and the testing done on him at belle reeve.

They never state in the show that Ryan is a meteor freak; and I could've sworn his powers were caused by the tumor, not the other way around, but I don't think that was explicitly stated either, I guess.

I think I may break out my season 2 DVDs and see for myself.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by 347Studboy
They never state in the show that Ryan is a meteor freak; and I could've sworn his powers were caused by the tumor, not the other way around, but I don't think that was explicitly stated either, I guess.

It was never stated that Ryan's powers were meteor related. Quite the opposite, as in Ryan it was strongly implied, although not explicity mentioned, that Ryan's abilities were related to his tumor.

[freefall]

Originally posted by Nospam
It was never stated that Ryan's powers were meteor related. Quite the opposite, as in Ryan it was strongly implied, although not explicity mentioned, that Ryan's abilities were related to his tumor.

Must be like that guy in Phenomenon, forgot his name but he was played by John Travolta.

[Nospam]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Must be like that guy in Phenomenon, forgot his name but he was played by John Travolta.

Right. Yes, same idea as Phenomenon. Like "Battlefield Earth", Phenomenon is just Scientologist propaganda in my eyes.

John Travolta. What a weirdo. Met him in Vancouver at the Cactus Club a long time ago and he seemed weirder in person. I introduced him to my invisible leprechaun friend and he didn't even have the courtesy to shake his hand. Like I said, weird. :rolleyes:

[347Studboy]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Must be like that guy in Phenomenon, forgot his name but he was played by John Travolta.

Ahem (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2831169#post2831169).


Originally posted by 347Studboy
Was it ever proved that Ryan was a meteor freak? I thought his powers were an unforseen benefit of the brain tumor or whatever that was killing him, like in the movie "Phenomenon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117333/)".

So yeah. I guess we all agree.

[SheaMan]

Meteor rocks don't evil people... terrible parents (like leeche's and Alicia's) evil people.

[jon-el87]

No, you don't just become evil or psychotic, simply because you've got powers. It's far more complex then that. Chloe said that almost all meteor freaks she's encountered are either locked up in Belle Reve or dead. Well, of course they're locked up in a mental hospital. It doesn't matter if you're good or bad, if you go around claiming to have super powers, people will think you're crazy and lock you up. Just look at the patient files Chloe reads in the episode "Kara", one of them was on a young woman who claimed she had powers, but were unable to prove it (for some reason). I mean, honestly, I watched Highlander a few days ago and in one scene Christopher Lambert tells Roxanne Hart that he's been alive for over four centuries (b. 1518) and cannot die, which is then followed by him stabbing himself in the belly, which then heals itself, showing that he's telling the truth. I think that example summons up my point pretty good; You can go around telling people that you're immortal, but they'll just think that you're crazy. So, the only way for you to prove you're telling the truth is to put youself in a situation, where you should have died. This would then make you a danger to yourself, which would result in you being taken to a mental hospital.
Also, Clark and Chloe doesn't really see the big (psychological) picture;
Eric Summers was bullied at school and seems to have been beaten by his father his whole life (planing to kill himself in the opening of "Leech"), then when he got Clark's powers, he started to get back at them who had hurt him. And when his parents turn against him, he becomes violent. Then Clark takes back his powers, which is then followed by Eric being taken to a hospital, where he keeps talking about the powers he's had, which then results in people thinking he's crazy and Eric's then locked up at Belle Reve. There are several other cases like this.
I watched "Plastique" yesterday and Bette didn't really strike me as a villain in that episode, but she was to Lois & Clark. First off, she was 15, she had been locked up at Black Creek when she was 12 and then been subjected to experiments (and possibly some form of torture) for three years. I'm not sure whatever happened to her parents, if they'd abandoned her after she got powers or if Luthorcorp simply broke into their house in the middle of the night, drugged them and dragged bette to Montana, either way something horrible happened. And her basic moivation seemed to be to protect herself, due to her experiances at Black Creek, she was willing to go to any length to protect herself and her secret, even as far as killing another person.