"Then consider me your own personal bomb squad."

[niki]

How cute was that scene?
Even though I'm now incredibly curious about Chloe.

I'm glad Clark's still looking out for her, as always!

[Brock Solid]

That was way more than a friends level...

[TheRowdy]

This scene was so totally cute! It made my heart smile! Go Chlark!!!! :D

[jimmyolsenblues]

I loved it. Very superman like.
Showing chloe will be watched closely by lex.
Chloe's honest fear and concern about her demise and clark vowing protection.
I absolutely loved it.

[Ms. Mack]

When he touched her arm, I was hoping for a kiss.

I wonder if Michael had is hand in every scene. If so, that makes this scene even better for me.

[Brock Solid]

I expected Jimmy to walk in and see

[Krypto/DQ/]

This was trully wonderful. wow.

[myankskent]

It was a classic friendship moment and a classic superman moment. Great scene!

[thehenry89]

meh...it was nothing too special

[Maryliz48]

AWWWWWW That was ADORABLE!!!!!!!!!! :p

[SmallvilleMan]

It was a very touchy scene. Now I just hope we don't have people going crazy, thinking it was more than a great FRIENDS moment.

[shansgrl]

Was one of the best Chlark scenes I've ever seen.

Clark vowing to watch out for Chloe, just classic!

[thehenry89]

i bloody hope he's watching out for her, she's been doing it since season four.

[shirkie]

Chlark is back and stronger than ever. That touch to her arm... So beautiful. "Just friends," right Clark?
shirkie

[Khyla]

Now i know why people use the term "heart-warming" . I honestly felt my heart heating up in my chest at that scene, and resulted in a warm smile. *sigh* :)

[TheRealClarkKent]

Originally posted by shirkie
Chlark is back and stronger than ever. That touch to her arm... So beautiful. "Just friends," right Clark?
shirkie

You hit the nail on the head shirkie. Chlark is coming guys. With the next season coming, I think they decided to delay it a little, but I know its coming. It's gonna be great, and with Lana coming about with his secret simulataneously....that's gonna lead to Clark making a choice....and he'll make the right one. CHLARK.

[SmallvilleMan]

Well, so much for that thought......Friends to the end, la la la:D

[Khyla]

At least we know they'll be closer than ever, now. :)

[nanook7112]

That scene was so adorable. I totally wanted a kiss to happen, but it was great nevertheless. Go chlark!!

[Ginx]

Lex better watch out - with Clark watching Chloe's back he's asking for trouble. I mean, Clark is always watching out for Chloe and she for Clark - but now that Lex is watching Chloe for ill reasons - he'd better get ready for a fight.

I really liked that scene - it was touching that they have such a strong friendship and that he trusts her. I just hope that she's not got some kinda switch in her that makes her evil - kinda like an umbrella corporation deal.

Also liked 'Clark we're both adults' making him x-ray her and then burn out the device. Good job on both their parts with that scene.

[Ayanne]

Originally posted by TheRealClarkKent
You hit the nail on the head shirkie. Chlark is coming guys. With the next season coming, I think they decided to delay it a little, but I know its coming. It's gonna be great, and with Lana coming about with his secret simulataneously....that's gonna lead to Clark making a choice....and he'll make the right one. CHLARK.

AM & TW have amazing chemistry that stands out in scenes. CHLARK is the only way to go!!

[Lostfan588]

CHLARRRRRRRRRRK!!!!!!!!!!!!! These scenes were......hmmmmm......"Just friends." PSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GIMME A BREAK!!!!!!


:rotfl:

[jeffct87]

clark should get all 3 girls... haha and jimmy as his side kick.

[Mackdaddy]

Great scene no doubt. I can see a big clash between Lex, Clark and Chloe coming really soon!

[thehenry89]

it wasn't all that great. it was a nice friendly gesture nothing more.

[Ilovebeinglost]

As much as I want Clark and Chloe to happen that was a true friendship scene and nothing more.

Clark loves Chloe but as a friend and he always will

[Krypto/DQ/]

Originally posted by thehenry89
it wasn't all that great. it was a nice friendly gesture nothing more.


Yeah and Pamela Anderson has natural boobs.

[myankskent]

I don't see how this is interpretted as more than friendship, especially since Clark just made that clear to Jimmy last week. I guess whenever a person comforts someone else when they are upset and puts their hand on their arm, that's a romantic gesture?

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Yeah and Pamela Anderson has natural boobs.
She does? I thought she had plastic surgery. (Sarcasm) ;)

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by myankskent
I don't see how this is interpretted as more than friendship, especially since Clark just made that clear to Jimmy last week. I guess whenever a person comforts someone else when they are upset and puts their hand on their arm, that's a romantic gesture?

exactly i know thats what i'm feeling when i comfort someone.:rolleyes:

[SmallvilleMan]

I don't see how this is interpretted as more than friendship, especially since Clark just made that clear to Jimmy last week. I guess whenever a person comforts someone else when they are upset and puts their hand on their arm, that's a romantic gesture?

True, they're very good friends. Same thing anyone would say to a dear friend.

[Krypto/DQ/]

Originally posted by Raging Clue
She does? I thought she had plastic surgery. (Sarcasm) ;)


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[HowardFilms]

Originally posted by Lostfan588
CHLARRRRRRRRRRK!!!!!!!!!!!!! These scenes were......hmmmmm......"Just friends." PSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GIMME A BREAK!!!!!!


:rotfl:

Well, we know he's "thought about it"

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
True, they're very good friends. Same thing anyone would say to a dear friend.

I think it was not the words or the gesture so much, but the fact that they made a point to ZOOM IN ON IT, that makes me think maaaybe they're trying to hint at a little chlark brewing, ya know, just maybe. Honestly when have they ever zoomed in on clark touching chloe in a comforting manner?

[niki]

Heh, well when I implied "cute", I just meant friendship-wise.
My best guy friend always does those kind of comforting moves, and they're just absolutely heart-warming!

[Deana]

Originally posted by myankskent
I don't see how this is interpretted as more than friendship, especially since Clark just made that clear to Jimmy last week. I guess whenever a person comforts someone else when they are upset and puts their hand on their arm, that's a romantic gesture? I don’t know.

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There was nothing romotely romantic about any of Clark and Chloe scenes. I saw a friend vowing to protect his other friend.

[niki]

I agree, Deana!

It would've been another thing if Clark had said,
"Then consider me your personal bomb squad, 'cause you da bomb!"

... Or, err, something.

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Deana
I don’t know. Maybe is BPDS(back pocket desperation syndrome)



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[SmallvilleMan]

I think it was not the words or the gesture so much, but the fact that they made a point to ZOOM IN ON IT, that makes me think maaaybe they're trying to hint at a little chlark brewing, ya know, just maybe. Honestly when have they ever zoomed in on clark touching chloe in a comforting manner?

Honestly, I think you're reaching far.....I know myself, I would say the same thing to any of my friends. If it was a girl, definitely, the same thing, with the same touch. Clark was very emotional, as anyone would be in that situation.

[jimmyolsenblues]

It was a wonderful superman scene.
Whether or not you are pro or anti chlark.
It was still a great superman moment.

[Lostfan588]

THAT WAS MORE CHLARK TOUCHING IVE SEEN IN A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG TIME. hahah I loved the Xray scene, the couch scene when shes like "why are you staring at me?" and the DP scene!!!!!!!!!! HELL YEAH CHLARKS COMING!!!!!!!

[thehenry89]

Originally posted by Lostfan588
THAT WAS MORE CHLARK TOUCHING IVE SEEN IN A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG TIME. hahah I loved the Xray scene, the couch scene when shes like "why are you staring at me?" and the DP scene!!!!!!!!!! HELL YEAH CHLARKS COMING!!!!!!!

the sceene at the talon was all about clarks shock that chloe might be a meteor freak.

when she asked him to x-ray her he was extermly uncomfotable like i would be if someone asked me to look at them naked

the DP... friendship people, friendship

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Honestly, I think you're reaching far.....I know myself, I would say the same thing to any of my friends. If it was a girl, definitely, the same thing, with the same touch. Clark was very emotional, as anyone would be in that situation.

I don't understand what Clark was supposed to do there. He considers her a close friend, she is crying over the fact that she is a meteor freak...was Clark just supposed to walk out of the room and pay no attention? Was Clark supposed to just stand there and do nothing to comfort her? I think that any decent friend to someone would've done exactly what Clark did, I probably would've given the girl a hug as well to give her a shoulder to cry on. It's what being a good friend is all about.

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Honestly, I think you're reaching far.....I know myself, I would say the same thing to any of my friends. If it was a girl, definitely, the same thing, with the same touch. Clark was very emotional, as anyone would be in that situation.

Completely missed my point. So I'll say it again. NOT the gesture or the words, those could easily have been said platonically, but the fact that they (TPTB/MR) made a point to zoom in on clark touching her arm. he's comforted her in a friendly manner many, many, many times, never have they zoomed in on him touching a body part. Don't mistake me for a shipper just b/c I have a AM avatar, I'm not reaching for anything, I have no reason to. I'd actually rather clark leave women alone altogether for a while. I'm just looking at what I saw and comparing it to what I've seen. They seem to be hinting at something brewing

[Deana]

Originally posted by niki
I agree, Deana!

It would've been another thing if Clark had said,
"Then consider me your personal bomb squad, 'cause you da bomb!"

... Or, err, something. Yeah, I'm thinking I got kidnapped by aliens for a second and missed something romantic.

Supes is free with the love, if that means something romantic... *watches Batman run* :lol:

[SmallvilleMan]

Completely missed my point. So I'll say it again. NOT the gesture or the words, those could easily have been said platonically, but the fact that they (TPTB/MR) made a point to zoom in on clark touching her arm. he's comforted her in a friendly manner many, many, many times, never have they zoomed in on him touching a body part. Don't mistake me for a shipper just b/c I have a AM avatar, I'm not reaching for a dying dream. I'd actually rather clark leave women alone altogether for a while. I'm just looking at what I saw and comparing it to what I've seen. They seem to be hinting at something brewing

That's still a very long reach......That's still them showing that Clark cares for her. It makes sense for them to zoom in on that, because it's a very emotional scene.

[Kal-ed]

I really didnt see anything more than the GREAT FRIENDSHIP they´ve had since season 1 and that has developed amazingly through the years.

And yeah, people might think Im Biased, since Im a Cloiser, but I would like to clear up that I never saw the Zod Clois hand holding as romantic (they even ZOOMED on the hands). I think in both scenes Clark showed he cared for the girls in his life and yeah, at this point, CHloe means more to Clark than Lois and it was shown, how much she cares.

Although seeing as Clark is a superhero, the whole thing didnt seem like anything he wouldnt have done for any other human being, I think the CHlark hug in Hydro and his apology was a much more profound Chlark moment than this.

[thehenry89]

if clark had given chloe a warm handshake it would have been seen as romantic.

[A MAN OF REASON!]

This scene was the pinnacle of their relationship. The love they share is always on the edge of friends/lovers,but it shows that they truly and genuinely care about one another. :)

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
That's still a very long reach......That's still them showing that Clark cares for her. It makes sense for them to zoom in on that, because it's a very emotional scene.

They've had other very emotional scenes, all without that kind of emphasis. I've only seen them do body-part-touching-zooms when they're trying to convey that intentions were a little more than friendly, ie., Clark/Lana, Lex/Lana. I think it's a tool they use to convey the characters intentions (usually intentions that may be crossing a line) and how those intentions are recieved. But if you think they made the effort to zoom in like for the first time in an emotional scene between those two to convey something that has already been made apparent (clarks friendship and care for chloe) then I can understand that, I guess. Smallville does have a tendency to rehash and revisit the unchanging state of relationships.

[Khyla]

I'll admit i didn't see anything romantic about that scene... it just looked to me like, along with the deep love and friendship, they were further trying to show us the physicality and trust between the two, as they did in the xray scene.

---Clark was hesitant to X-ray her, though he had done it years before without the blink of an eye to find the parasite in her in "Rush". Why the restraint/fear?

Same with the use of his heat vision. this was a physical invasion by him to her body, and until she grabbed the knife to do it herself, that's when he finally gained the courage thru her example of strength.

I see a melting of his fear of contact of a physical nature with CHloe.

[SmallvilleMan]

They've had other very emotional scenes, all without that kind of emphasis. I've only seen them do body-part-touching-zooms when they're trying to convey that intentions were a little more than friendly, ie., Clark/Lana, Lex/Lana. I think it's a tool they use to convey the characters intentions (usually intentions that may be crossing a line) and how those intentions are recieved. But if you think theymade the effort to zoom in like for the first time in an emotional scene between those two to convey something that has already been made aparent (clarks friendship and care for chloe) then I can understand that, I guess. Smallville does have a tendency to rehash and revisit the unchanging state of relationships.

Emotional scene, zoom in, seems right to me. They do it a lot with chlark IMO and Clana.

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by Khyla

I see a melting of his fear of contact of a physical nature with CHloe.

This brings up an interesting point. Why has he always been afraid or ansy about physical contact with her? I always thought it was because he knew their feelings weren't mutual and he didn't want to give ANY wrong impressions.

I think he's finally feeling that they are on the same page. Now whether it's romatically or just friendly is still yet to be seen.

[SmallvilleMan]

---Clark was hesitant to X-ray her, though he had done it years before without the blink of an eye to find the parasite in her in "Rush". Why the restraint/fear?

A normal reaction for any guy who thinks they're about to "check out" their friend who's a girl. Because he knew what he was looking for in rush and more importantly, where exactly to look.


Same with the use of his heat vision. this was a physical invasion by him to her body, and until she grabbed the knife to do it herself, that's when he finally gained the courage thru her example of strength.

Or the fact that Clark had never, EVER used his heat vision like that before. It was dangerous.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
This brings up an interesting point. Why has he always been afraid or ansy about physical contact with her? I always thought it was because he knew their feelings weren't mutual and he didn't want to give ANY wrong impressions.

I think he's finally feeling that they are on the same page. Now whether it's romatically or just friendly is still yet to be seen. excellent point! :)

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
They do it a lot with chlark IMO and Clana.

Yeh i think this is just a lack of us agreeing on what we've seen. I would not agree they've ever done those kind of zooms with Chlark.

[wolverine316]

There was nothing romantic about that scene at all. But as usual some people will see more than a friendship.

[jaybyrd28]

if clark had given chloe a warm handshake it would have been seen as romantic.

Just like Clark verbalizing that he doesn't like EDlois is? I mean it absolutely must be that his verbalizations of not liking EDlois must be different right?

This whole double standard thing is completely foreign to me :)

[savingpeoplething]

There's a lot to that last Chlark scene...
Lots of emotional dialogue, much like "Delete", "Scare", and "Tomb", talking about her fears and how he wants to be there to protect her.
That's it's intimate and personal.

Once Clark sits with her, it gets quiet and natural. No sounds, but them talking. She's crying and he touches her in comfort.
He makes a vow to watch over her...

It could have been just friendly, or it could have been a set up for something more.
But, that arm touching surely caught MY eye.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I agree with savingpeoplething.

[gogeta]

I thought it was a touching scene. I picked up a romantic vibe, it was very sweet.

[SmallvilleMan]

Yeh i think this is just a lack of us agreeing on what we've seen. I would not agree they've ever done those kind of zooms with Chlark.

Yeah, it happens.......Oh well:) But I see no romantic signs, the signs are pointed in the clana direction. In addition to that, chimmey is going strong.

[TheRowdy]

Originally posted by TheRealClarkKent
You hit the nail on the head shirkie. Chlark is coming guys. With the next season coming, I think they decided to delay it a little, but I know its coming. It's gonna be great, and with Lana coming about with his secret simulataneously....that's gonna lead to Clark making a choice....and he'll make the right one. CHLARK.

I really hope this is the direction its gonna go! Eeeee! :D

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by savingpeoplething


It could have been just friendly, or it could have been a set up for something more.
But, that arm touching surely caught MY eye.

It caught a lot of people's eye. I don't know why people wouldn't think they did that for a reason. I doubt it was to overemphasize a friendship

[SmallvilleMan]

It caught a lot of people's eye. I don't know why people wouldn't think they did that for a reason. I doubt it was to overemphasize a friendship

It caught a lot of CHLARKERS eyes....

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
It caught a lot of people's eye. I don't know why people wouldn't think they did that for a reason. I doubt it was to overemphasize a friendship

And you don't think that it's to show that Clark is trying to be there and comfort Chloe in her time of need? The fact that they zoomed in on his hand shows that Clark is there to protect Chloe and keep her safe. In light of what was said just last week with Clark only seeing Chloe as a friend, I don't see this particular scene as anything more than friendship. That question has been answered.

[Thil_EL]

oh chalrk, how i miss thee..

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
It caught a lot of CHLARKERS eyes....

How could it not catch anyone's eye when that touch took up the whole screen. To take the camera off the faces of the actors JUST to show physical contact, will catch a viewers eye regardless of what or IF they ship. Which I don't and it definitely caused me to raise and eyebrow

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by jaybyrd28

This whole double standard thing is completely foreign to me :)

So Im guessing that Clark holding Lois´s hand and the very specific ClOSE UP on their hand holding, also clearly showed LOVE... Cause if it didnt, then lets talk about double standard...:rolleyes:

[alienkinfolk]

Although i didn't feel their last exchange was romantic, I did find it warm and re-affirming that their friendship has reached a level.

When he used his heat vision on her I found that to be a very intimate gesture. I found the heat scene more romantic than the last scene w/ them.

[AndiGirl]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
Completely missed my point. So I'll say it again. NOT the gesture or the words, those could easily have been said platonically, but the fact that they (TPTB/MR) made a point to zoom in on clark touching her arm. he's comforted her in a friendly manner many, many, many times, never have they zoomed in on him touching a body part. Don't mistake me for a shipper just b/c I have a AM avatar, I'm not reaching for anything, I have no reason to. I'd actually rather clark leave women alone altogether for a while. I'm just looking at what I saw and comparing it to what I've seen. They seem to be hinting at something brewing

I agree! It's not the touch or the words....Clark has done much more comforting then that in the past! It's the fact that the cameras zoomed in, and wanted to make a point of showing the touch.

[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by myankskent
And you don't think that it's to show that Clark is trying to be there and comfort Chloe in her time of need? The fact that they zoomed in on his hand shows that Clark is there to protect Chloe and keep her safe. In light of what was said just last week with Clark only seeing Chloe as a friend, I don't see this particular scene as anything more than friendship. That question has been answered.

I got the exact same impresion from the Clois hand holding in Zod.


Originally posted by alienkinfolk

When he used his heat vision on her I found that to be a very intimate gesture. I found the heat scene more romantic than the last scene w/ them.

Oh oh, I think we have a problem, there is a (sort of) recent comic book that shows Superman using his heat vision to burn a tracking device in Batmans Brain, now that you mention it they did seem like they were about to kiss afterwards :rolleyes:


Originally posted by AndiGirl
I agree! It's not the touch or the words....Clark has done much more comforting then that in the past! It's the fact that the cameras zoomed in, and wanted to make a point of showing the touch.

Again how is it any diferent from the zoom in on the Clois hand holding??

[savingpeoplething]

Originally posted by Kal-ed
I got the exact same impresion from the Clois hand holding in Zod.

Except Clark and Lois didn't seem to like it that much and Clark pretty much did it because Lois was in the hospital :)


Originally posted by myankskent
I don't see this particular scene as anything more than friendship. That question has been answered.

I assume you mean Clark's comment to Jimmy last week when Jimmy got suspicious Clark agreeing that he would suffer a bodycast for Chloe?

That comment?

Clark maintained he and Lana were "just friends" FOREVER.
Yet, they ended up hooking up, having sex, and getting engaged.
:)

[AndiGirl]

I also thought the scene where they find the chip in Chloe was very intense. I don't know why either! haha. It was very romantic...just the way she begged him to help her...I don't know, I loved the scene though.

[aqgalaxy]

Originally posted by Kal-ed
I got the exact same impresion from the Clois hand holding in Zod.

Again how is it any diferent from the zoom in on the Clois hand holding??

Well... they looked at the hands and he pulled away

In Freak, Chloe saw it and looked at him and smiled...

Basically one was accepted, the other was not

[AndiGirl]

exactly...one was very awkward....but in a cute way...and the other was more open.

[SmallvilleMan]

How could it not catch anyone's eye when that touch took up the whole screen. To take the camera off the faces of the actors JUST to show physical contact, will catch a viewers eye regardless of what or IF they ship. Which I don't and it definitely caused me to raise and eyebrow

And what basis besides the zoom would anyone jump up and go, 'OMG Chlark is coming'? A zoom in can made for any reason, it's not always to show an upcoming relationship. Why couldn't it be just to show friendship? Point is, it doesn't mean much. Jumping for conclusions here.

[AndiGirl]

It could have been to show friendship. It just seemed to me that Clark was very protective of Chloe in this scene...and maybe more then a typical friend would be. But of course, Clark isnt' a typical friend. I will fully admitt i could be seeing these things because I'm a Chlarker....just the fact that we are supposed to focus on the touch, and Clark has his arms rapped around her....it seemed like a friendly gesture with an extra notch to it! haha

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by Kal-ed


Again how is it any diferent from the zoom in on the Clois hand holding??

If their friendship was purely platonic would they have found that uncomfortable? That's not part of my argument by the way, i just find it ironic. The zoom isn't saying Clark and Lois are in LOVE. It's not saying Clark and Chloe are in LOVE. I'm saying they zoom on stuff like that for a reason and I think it's to convey that a line may be being crossed. That there is something odd, different, or unusual about that contact ( otherwise why say to viewer "Hey look he's touching her!"). A line was crossed between Clark and Lois, they don't touch each other like that. Clark and Chloe touch all the time, so that isn't it. So why emphasize him touching her now, when he's done it hundreds of times before with no emphasis.? The scene where they zoom in on Lex putting his hand on Lana's shoulder for the first time. That was anything but romantic, but it was crossing a line and they wanted to emphasize it.

It seems painfully obvious that they're hinting at something, hopefully not a relationship b/c it would ruin a good ting , but that feelings are growing to more that friendly ones. I personally don't think the seen was "romantic" either, it simply didn't go there. But it hinted at more than friendship

[SmallvilleMan]

It could have been to show friendship. It just seemed to me that Clark was very protective of Chloe in this scene...and maybe more then a typical friend would be. But of course, Clark isnt' a typical friend. I will fully admitt i could be seeing these things because I'm a Chlarker....just the fact that we are supposed to focus on the touch, and Clark has his arms rapped around her....it seemed like a friendly gesture with an extra notch to it! haha

No, Clark isn't a typical friend, he's her best friend. His keeper for the secret, of course he's very protective of her. In addition to the fact anyone involved with the meteors, is because of Clark and I'm sure he would feel guilty if something happened to Chloe, because of the meteors. They were showing what a great friendship they have, just like they always do. Because that's all they are, friends.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
And what basis besides the zoom would anyone jump up and go, 'OMG Chlark is coming'? A zoom in can made for any reason, it's not always to show an upcoming relationship. Why couldn't it be just to show friendship? Point is, it doesn't mean much. Jumping for conclusions here. Romantic? No, as elaborated in my previous post, and I am a serious Chlarker AND CHloiser. :)

you cannot deny tho the physicality of their love and trust being shown between them in this epi. and the touch to her arm was a further emphasis of this.

[SteveS]

Originally posted by Brock Solid
That was way more than a friends level...

Ah yes, you understand the program and are exactly correct...'way more than a friends level..." it was and it is.

[SlickBlonde]

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[Kal-ed]

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Well... they looked at the hands and he pulled away

In Freak, Chloe saw it and looked at him and smiled...

Basically one was accepted, the other was not

She pulled away, he had no choice. I didnt see any guns (well kryptonite) pointing at him to make him hold her hand.


Originally posted by SlickBlonde
If their friendship was purely platonic would they have found that uncomfortable? That's not part of my argument by the way, i just find it ironic. The zoom isn't saying Clark and Lois are in LOVE. It's not saying Clark and Chloe are in LOVE. I'm saying they zoom on stuff like that for a reason and I think it's to convey that a line may be being crossed. That there is something odd, different, or unusual about that contact ( otherwise why say to viewer "Hey look he's touching her!"). A line was crossed between Clark and Lois, they don't touch each other like that. Clark and Chloe touch all the time, so that isn't it. So why emphasize him touching her now, when he's done it hundreds of times before with no emphasis.? The seen where they zoom in on Lex putting his hand on Lana's shoulder for the first time. That was anything but romantic, but it was crossing a line and they wanted to emphasize it.


It was MR´s joke. And as you said, It doesnt necesarily mean love, there is just as (if not more) posibilities that this was meant as friendship and that their relationship is really strong.

[AndiGirl]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
I think people are so sick of Chlarkers pissing on themselves everytime Chlark are in scene together, they're to the point to where they deny when they're actually is some Chlark being hinted at.

I have to agree! I've learned over the years to shut up...and not obsess over every Chlark moment, especially the little ones that don't necessarily mean anything.....but I'm sure when Chloe and Clark are making out in a corner people are going to tell us it's all in our heads! :p

[AndyBear1980]

I really enjoyed that Chloe and Clark scene. Very well done. Both AM and TW were great in that scene and I absolutely love the close bond/friendship between these two.

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I have to agree! I've learned over the years to shut up...and not obsess over every Chlark moment, especially the little ones that don't necessarily mean anything.....but I'm sure when Chloe and Clark are making out in a corner people are going to tell us it's all in our heads! :p

And what makes this so ironic is I have NEVER argued that there was more than friendship between Chlark, NEVER. THIS is because I don't ship and I've not seen anything before. But I honestly think they were intentionally pointing out the out-of-placeness of that touch.

[Davlok]

Chloe's bombs are dangerous! :rotfl:

[BadToad]

I thought it was a lovely scene that showed the closeness and dedication of the Chlark relationship. Whether it could be interpreted as romantic or not? I think it could, and I'm NOT a 'shipper of any type. Or it could just be friendship. In either case, the scene did hold a lot of emotional weight, and TW & AM did a really nice job with it.

[coasterprincess]

amazing line....I love them together (even if it's not romantic)

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by BadToad
I thought it was a lovely scene that showed the closeness and dedication of the Chlark relationship. Whether it could be interpreted as romantic or not? I think it could, and I'm NOT a 'shipper of any type. Or it could just be friendship. In either case, the scene did hold a lot of emotional weight, and TW & AM did a really nice job with it.

Agreed. I don't deny the possibility that there was nothing more than friendship to it. I also don't deny that it could be viewed that they were hinting at more.

[Bat21]

Ya, show just ended here on the west coast, when Clark paused I was trying to think what he would say to support her and he couldn't have come up with a more touching line!

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
And what makes this so ironic is I have NEVER argued that there was more than friendship between Chlark, NEVER. THIS is because I don't ship and I've not seen anything before. But I honestly think they were intentionally pointing out the out-of-placeness of that touch.
I agree,we've been shown how close they r many times but as u stated before never like this.This was intentional for what who knows,but it was definitely to show that maybe clark's feelings r alil more than friendly.Doesn't mean it'll lead to sumthin later but it does mean that they plan on showin us sumthin more wit clark that we haven't already seen recently(Friendship that we see every epi).Cause that scene jus came off alil 2 diff for them,I think the closes they've come to showin them embrace closeup like this was in crush when he reached for her hand.But I agree,this was definitely 2 show more than jus ur reg friendship that we're use to seein from them.Where it leads who knows :\

[cloisinmyheart]

even though ive never considered chlark. that was very romantic..the way they showed clarks hand holding her arm

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
Agreed. I don't deny the possibility that there was nothing more than friendship to it. I also don't deny that it could be viewed that they were hinting at more.
And to hear it from sumone who doesn't ship is tellin imo,cause it means that not only chlarkers r seein it.And that it jus might have been meant to come off this way,where it leads who knows.But I definitely think it was put there on purpose and not to reaffirm that they r close,we see that every epi

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
I think it was not the words or the gesture so much, but the fact that they made a point to ZOOM IN ON IT, that makes me think maaaybe they're trying to hint at a little chlark brewing, ya know, just maybe. Honestly when have they ever zoomed in on clark touching chloe in a comforting manner?

I noticed that as well;) The only time that I ever remember Clark touching her like that was back in season 1 (OBSCURA), when he reached out and grabbed her hand.

It wasn't just exactly what he said, BUT how he said it. When Clark reached out to touch Chloe's arm, it cued the camera to ZOOM IN, because it was meant to be a ROMANTIC gesture. PLUS, after he touched her, they exchanged looks THUS cueing the sweet, soft music, while the camera ZOOMED in on their faces:D

ALSO, I find it ODD that whenever the JIMSTER talks about *his feelings for Chloe,* the camera NEVER ZOOMS IN ON CLARK'S REACTION. . .HMM. . .Does anyone else find that ODD? I truly think that when Chloe all of a sudden appeared out of nowhere that Clark wanted to show her how relieved he was to see her. HOWEVER, BEFORE Clark told her how he was glad to see her, he cautiouslly looked over at Jimmy? I FIND THAT VERY INTERESTING;)

You could OBVIOUSLY tell that Clark was concerned about Chloe. His scene with Tobias was very telling; he was DETERMINED to find Chloe. I liked the way he grabbed Tobias and told him not to lie to him. ALSO, I think that there was some continuity in this episdoe. In the LABYRINTH, Clark sees her die, BECAUSE OF HIS SECRET. In this episode, Clark is afraid ( God knows what he'll do to her), because he thinks that Tobias told the doctor that he was not human, so he kidnapped Chloe to lure him in. He is OBVIOUSLY AFRAID that his secret could get her killed.

PLUS, when Clark tries to rush Chloe to the hospital, he panicks. I think that it is IMPORTANT to remember his reaction when Chloe says Daniel Kim is dead! I'm not going to stand around and wait to die (she says something like that), and Clark is completely TERRIFIED!

IN CONCLUSION, I SAW MORE THAN FRIENDSHIP! CLARK HAS FEELINGS FOR HER, BUT HE WON'T FESS UP, BECAUSE THERE IS AN OBSTACLE. . .JIMMY!:rolleyes:


Originally posted by Brock Solid
That was way more than a friends level...

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%!:p

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
And to hear it from sumone who doesn't ship is tellin imo,cause it means that not only chlarkers r seein it.And that it jus might have been meant to come off this way,where it leads who knows.But I definitely think it was put there on purpose and not to reaffirm that they r close,we see that every epi

Exactly. that's all i been saying. I have no idea what it means for their future, but I do believe that it hinted that clark may have more than platonic feelings

[maudeline]

The best scene in the whole epi... My heart is chlarky beathing right now :)

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
Exactly. that's all i been saying. I have no idea what it means for their future, but I do believe that it hinted that clark may have more than platonic feelings
I agree,we've all known chloe's feelings for yrs but I think that scene was to show that clark may now start to feel sumthin alil more.Where it leads who knows,but it definitely wasn't ur normal chlark embrace.The only thing I felt questionable about the scene was where they plan on takin it after that moment,not if it was romantic or not.Imo it was obviously put there to show there is sumthin more between them then jus friendship,its jus debateable on what tptb do to followup the moment.Why WAS it put there etc...not what it come off as...but thats jus my opinion tho :\


Originally posted by chlark=destiny
ALSO, I find it ODD that whenever the JIMSTER talks about *his feelings for Chloe,* the camera NEVER ZOOMS IN ON CLARK'S REACTION. . .HMM. . .Does anyone else find that ODD? I truly think that when Chloe all of a sudden appeared out of nowhere that Clark wanted to show her how relieved he was to see her. HOWEVER, BEFORE Clark told her how he was glad to see her, he cautiouslly looked over at Jimmy? I FIND THAT VERY INTERESTING;)

You could OBVIOUSLY tell that Clark was concerned about Chloe. His scene with Tobias was very telling; he was DETERMINED to find Chloe. I liked the way he grabbed Tobias and told him not to lie to him. ALSO, I think that there was some continuity in this episdoe. In the LABYRINTH, Clark sees her die, BECAUSE OF HIS SECRET. In this episode, Clark is afraid ( God knows what he'll do to her), because he thinks that Tobias told the doctor that he was not human, so he kidnapped Chloe to lure him in. He is OBVIOUSLY AFRAID that his secret could get her killed.

PLUS, when Clark tries to rush Chloe to the hospital, he panicks. I think that it is IMPORTANT to remember his reaction when Chloe says Daniel Kim is dead! I'm not going to stand around and wait to die (she says something like that), and Clark is completely TERRIFIED!

IN CONCLUSION, I SAW MORE THAN FRIENDSHIP! CLARK HAS FEELINGS FOR HER, BUT HE WON'T FESS UP, BECAUSE THERE IS AN OBSTACLE. . .JIMMY!:rolleyes:
I agree,when jimmy was talkin about his regrets I jus knew they would zoom in on clark's expression but they didn't.I found it odd 2,espcially wit both jimmy and clark almost in tears wonder what happen to her.It showed jimmy panic enough for the both of them,tho clark did look like he was goin to crack as well.But hearin jimmy make his claim then showin clark's expressions would have been nice.Even when she showed up,they seem to focus on jimmy runnin inbetween chlark and jus standin in the middle.Clark seem alil shocked she was back,and yet also seem like he had more to say but jimmy was there.Who knows what but he definitely seem jus as scared as jimmy if not more.And I would have luved to see his expression after jimmy's comments about not speakin up/playin it cool.O well :\

O yea I also agree about Lab sort of playin apart in clark's determination.He's seen chloe die once(Tho she doesn't kno it)I doubt he wants to relive that.Plus as u said he thought she was taken because of his secret and even when he found out it wasn't,he still looked scared she was gone.I think him havin powers this time and not wantin to relive the Lab events also help push him to use his heatvision.Cause he knew if he didn't she'd cut herself open and possibly hurt herself worse.So it was sort of a tie into lab events and also the trust she has for him.And how he needs to start trustin hisself,she's obviously his hope jus as he reassure her at the end he'll be her's

[Atomic girl]

Wow, so much read into that touch.

I've had alot of good male friends, I'm female, and touching my arm or shoulder or holding my hand at a time of comforting isn't weird. Considering that Clark and Chloe are really good friends and have so much history, that touch shouldn't be construed as romantic. It looked like a comforting gesture. Clark cares for Chloe, think of how many times they have hugged and comforted each other.

That touch was meant as a gesture of caring. In a previous episode (Lineage) Clark had touched her hand when talking about how she shouldn't feel like she wasn't worth loving.

I would love to see some romantic Chlark, but this doesn't make me feel like it's more or less likely.

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
I agree,we've all known chloe's feelings for yrs but I think that scene was to show that clark may now start to feel sumthin alil more.Where it leads who knows,but it definitely wasn't ur normal chlark embrace.The only thing I felt questionable about the scene was where they plan on takin it after that moment,not if it was romantic or not.Imo it was obviously put there to show there is sumthin more between them then jus friendship,its jus debateable on what tptb do to followup the moment.Why WAS it put there etc...not what it come off as...but thats jus my opinion tho :\

That's my other problem, this could never be revisited again on the show, even though i kinda doubt that. TPTB love triangle conflict and they don't build them for no reason. then again other hints drop off the face of the earth with them

[svsabbiesv]

i loved the tear that fell on his hand...pure accidental but meant so much more to me..very touching

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by myankskent
I don't see how this is interpretted as more than friendship, especially since Clark just made that clear to Jimmy last week. I guess whenever a person comforts someone else when they are upset and puts their hand on their arm, that's a romantic gesture?

Has it ever occured to you that maybe Clark lied? He has done it many times before, especially with Lana. He's not going to make his feelings known for her right now, because she's in a relationship with Jimmy, and he wants her to be happy. He would rather keep Chloe as his best friend FOR NOW, then risk losing her by confessing his feelings while she is still with Jimmy.

I'm sorry BUT when he reached out and softly caressed her arm, I SAW TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER. . .WHO ARE SERIOUSLY IN DENIAL!:)

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
That's my other problem, this could never be revisited again on the show, even though i kinda doubt that. TPTB love triangle conflict and they don't build them for no reason. then again other hints drop off the face of the earth with them
True,but imo if this epi showed anythin possible of tptb toyin wit triangles again its between clark and the girls.It showed lana in a positive light and chloe's trust in him,we've already seen them go this route before.But in a way I think they r slowly buildin it up again in sum way.What way is questionable but havin lana make statements about understandin and havin chloe put her life in clark's hands wit no hesitation was for a reason.Clark imo has always been drawn to both girl but diff,so to have both girls show how they look at clark is tellin imo.Cause it could mean tptb plan on doin sumthin wit chlarkana again,what who knows but I wouldn't put nothin past these writers :\

[Who]

Chloe's a Ticking Time Bomb *Gasp*. Does this mean the end for Chloe? :(
Does anyone worry that all the Meteor Freaks end up in an insane asylum, dead or missing because the cross paths with Clark?

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Has it ever occured to you that maybe Clark lied? He has done it many times before, especially with Lana. He's not going to make his feelings known for her right now, because she's in a relationship with Jimmy, and he wants her to be happy. He would rather keep Chloe as his best friend FOR NOW, then risk losing her by confessing his feelings while she is still with Jimmy.

I'm sorry BUT when he reached out and softly caressed her arm, I SAW TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER. . .WHO ARE SERIOUSLY IN DENIAL!:)
That maybe,thats the question about their scene tonight.It was put there for a reason to show more than ur usual chlark carin moment.But why?Where will it go?etc...I do think clark like martha said has to process how HE feels,cause at this point its hard to tell.Even wit lana tonight it seem like he has feelings there but its more about trustin her then tryin to get her back.Jus like I agree,he may feel sumthin more than friendship for chloe,but wants her happy first and wont risk exposin his confused/mixed feelings.But I definitely think the moments wit both girls r put here on purpose to buildup both girls as an option for later.Where it leads who knows,but its hard to ignore the chlark and even the clana moment from tonight imo

[SlickBlonde]

Originally posted by D.M.A.
True,but imo if this epi showed anythin possible of tptb toyin wit triangles again its between clark and the girls.It showed lana in a positive light and chloe's trust in him,we've already seen them go this route before.But in a way I think they r slowly buildin it up again in sum way.What way is questionable but havin lana make statements about understandin and havin chloe put her life in clark's hands wit no hesitation was for a reason.Clark imo has always been drawn to both girl but diff,so to have both girls show how they look at clark is tellin imo.Cause it could mean tptb plan on doin sumthin wit chlarkana again,what who knows but I wouldn't put nothin past these writers :\

Good post and Agreed

[MrZeppo]

Yeah I don't ship, but I've been feeling a subtle push of the whole Clark/Chloe dynamic, especially this last season. I really love it because it's actually very sweet to see such dear friends.

I kinda felt that some of the best Chlark this season was in Labrynith and Clark confessed he cared about her a lot more than he lets on. (A purposely vague statement) Also, that Super-hug he laid on her when he came out of the delusion and saw her alive and well was a clear sign of how much Clark loves her.

Personally, I think Clark regards Chloe as his best friend, his confidant, and yes I think he does love her dearly. It may not be as overly romantic as some people may hope for, but he's displayed more of an interest in her the last season.

I think he's even coming to accept that a part of him sees her in a romantic light, I think Crimson displayed that. I just don't think he knows how to deal with it, especially since he thinks he needs to be alone.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by Who
Chloe's a Ticking Time Bomb *Gasp*. Does this mean the end for Chloe? :(
Does anyone worry that all the Meteor Freaks end up in an insane asylum, dead or missing because the cross paths with Clark?

I don't know if it will be the end for Chloe, but her life is going to change dramatically coming up, IMO. That Chlark scene at the end does point to her possibly dying, but we know that Clark will be there to protect her. The question is, how far is Lex willing to go? Will he let Chloe simply slip through his fingers this time around as he is gaining momentum in his evil quests, or will he find a way to really hurt her? My guess is that Chloe is going to be a big target as far as Lex is concerned and that is not good news for Chloe at this point. She managed to escape from Lionel once and surviving that, beating another Luthor is pressing your luck, especially if it's Lex.

[kkjdt]

I believe you can see him going either way and we really don't know which way TPTB will take it....
but I loved the Chlark scenes...
I loved how they interacted with each other..
I think they are showing he is thinking about both of them..
I feel like we are in the middle of ..."round and round he goes where he stops nobody knows"
Time will tell:confused: ;)

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah, it happens.......Oh well:) But I see no romantic signs, the signs are pointed in the clana direction. In addition to that, chimmey is going strong.

I wouldn't exactly say that CHIMMY is going strong; if you noticed, Jimmy was pretty much clueless as to what was going on. Sure, the argument could be given that Jimmy is clueless, due to Clark's secret. BUT, I think, like we all saw in CRIMSON, that he will eventually confront Chloe again and possibly Clark about their true intentions towards each other. Maybe after Jimmy confronts him, Clark will really begin to process his feelings for Chloe:D


Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
It caught a lot of CHLARKERS eyes....

Yeah, well if this scene had Lois in it instead of Chloe, then it would have caught your eyes too:rolleyes:

[Indira Kal]

well, it may be safe to suggest that chloe will break up with jimmy soon after convincing herself that if she's a meteor freak she will be too dangerous for jimmy and will fear that his safety would be compromised if her abilities were to surface. so in an effort to avoid hurting him later on inadvertantly, she will break it off with him and go solo.

after that, who knows? would chlark happen? if at least for a brief moment? before she goes in hiding from lex's evil plan and join with oliver queen and company as a part of the justice league?? that may be the last we'll see of chloe.

imagine... an end scene watching her walk away from clark with the justice league gang, looking back at him over her shoulders one last time, as she disappears from smallville and meets her own superhero destiny...

awww.... how bittersweet

[Phantazma]

It was a beautiful moment between Chloe and Clark. It's kind of a given that Chloe loves* Clark but it's nice for a change to have on screen confirmation that Clark really does love* Chloe.


*Satisfy your own personal agenda by considering it either friendship or romantic love. I'm not going to ruin my high with petty squabbling. :D

[Mackdaddy]

Originally posted by Phantazma
It was a beautiful moment between Chloe and Clark. It's kind of a given that Chloe loves* Clark but it's nice for a change to have on screen confirmation that Clark really does love* Chloe.


*Satisfy your own personal agenda by considering it either friendship or romantic love. I'm not going to ruin my high with petty squabbling. :D

I agree:D

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by SlickBlonde
And what makes this so ironic is I have NEVER argued that there was more than friendship between Chlark, NEVER. THIS is because I don't ship and I've not seen anything before. But I honestly think they were intentionally pointing out the out-of-placeness of that touch.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU:D

WHY WOULD THE DIRECTOR GO OUT OF HIS WAY TO ZOOM IN ON CLARK CARESSING CHLOE'S ARM, WHILE RESTING HIS OTHER HAND ON HER SHOULDER. . .WHY YOU ASK?

BECAUSE HE WANTED TO SHOW THAT CLARK'S FEELINGS FOR CHLOE ARE CHANGING!

Throughout this season, we have been given HINTS to Clark's changed feelings FOR CHLOE. As much as this pains me to admit this :rolleyes:, Clark's feelings for Lana are STILL PRETTY OBVIOUS. Heck, I'm not even a CLOIS fan either, BUT I can STILL tell that he's seeing Lois differently as well. . .AS A CHLARK FAN, I CAN STILL BE OBJECTIVE ABOUT CLARK'S FEELINGS FOR ALL THREE GIRLS.

[meggy]

we interrup this discussion to bring major headline news.....

cant read all the posts right now....this is a real debate and all...but one thing i must mention on any thread about that DP scene is something we may have missed:

right when CK puts his hand on Chloe..one of her TEARS falls on his hand!...now that is just beautiful....go back and watch..u'll see it falls right on his hand....that's cool......

now, back to the regularly scheduled debates....

[svfan50]

I think Clark is definately not over Lana as yet...he is definately going over-friendship zone with Chloe..under the pseudo-naming of BEST FRIEND!!! and as for Lois, the producers are just showing a bit of attraction because of the mytho-comic world...!!!!


But Chlark was superb tonight!!!

[chlark=destiny]

Originally posted by cloisinmyheart
even though ive never considered chlark. that was very romantic..the way they showed clarks hand holding her arm

I applaud you for your honesty;)

Next to CHLARK, I've also enjoyed CLOIS, and just like CHLARK, I, TOO, can tell when Lois and Clark are having a more than friends moment..

[Indira Kal]

as much of a chlarker i am, i just can't see that clark would touch her arm like that out of romantic feelings because he knows chloe and jimmy are together and he just got done witnessing how insanely scared, hurt, and almost heartbroken jimmy was at thinking chloe was gone forever. those clark/jimmy scenes were so emotional that clark, IMO, wouldn't be thinking of chloe in the end of the episode as something more than his best friend. since clark is such an up-standing guy, it would be traitorious for him to think of jimmy's gal as a potential love interest for him.

i know i know, clark inside has thought of chloe as someone he could have more with, but i don't see him having "intentions" to show her he's thinking about it NOW. not with jimmy in the picture. i think clark has to be respecting the chimmy relationship. not making it complicated.

touch on the arm? the close-up of it? i hate to say it fellow chlarkers, but i think it was simply meant to demonstrate a "tender, platonic friendship". at least for right now...

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by Indira Kal
as much of a chlarker i am, i just can't see that clark would touch her arm like that out of romantic feelings because he knows chloe and jimmy are together and he just got done witnessing how insanely scared, hurt, and almost heartbroken jimmy was at thinking chloe was gone forever. those clark/jimmy scenes were so emotional that clark, IMO, wouldn't be thinking of chloe in the end of the episode as something more than his best friend. since clark is such an up-standing guy, it would be traitorious for him to think of jimmy's gal as a potential love interest for him.

i know i know, clark inside has thought of chloe as someone he could have more with, but i don't see him having "intentions" to show her he's thinking about it NOW. not with jimmy in the picture. i think clark has to be respecting the chimmy relationship. not making it complicated.

touch on the arm? the close-up of it? i hate to say it fellow chlarkers, but i think it was simply meant to demonstrate a "tender, platonic friendship". at least for right now...
It could be yes,but not if its meant to show for once his feelings r changin.I do agree,clark isn't the type to step in on a ship like chlimmy's but it doesn't mean he cant have feelings from afar.I think the whole DP scene was to show for once clark luvs chloe back(Romantic or not is arguable).And that now he is startin to see her for more than jus a friend but he wouldn't dare do anythin about it,so he chooses to show his appreciation other wayz.Jus as u stated jimmy was scared of losin chloe early on,but imo clark looked more scared(He jus didn't speakup/show his panic as quick as jimmy but the facial expressions were there).And tho the jimmy's words about regrets were meant for him,I think sum of it was meant for clark 2 which is why he comfort her at the end.To show her in sum form(Which console a friend he atleast can do wit her)that he cares.Even tho chlimmy is datin,if tptb jus wanted to show that for once chloe's feelings for him isn't jus 1 sided/she'd risk it all for him...they atleast showed that he's willing to do the same and risk hurtin her to save her.So I think their moment is hard to overlook since the whole epi shows chlark's trust.And when him/jimmy thought she was missin both guyz seems hurt,but where as jimmy was startin to giveup hope clark didn't.But the chlark interaction at the end cant be overlooked tho(Even if she is datin)cause it wasn't ur normal chlark comfort moment.Where it leads who knows,cause she is still datin and he isn't completely over lana yet.But imo it does show that he atleast acknowledges that chloe is more than jus a friend

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by niki
How cute was that scene?
Even though I'm now incredibly curious about Chloe.

I'm glad Clark's still looking out for her, as always!
Yeah, I was a little disppointed.
All we got was him touching her arm, dammit.
:mad:
It pi$$ed me off how Clark looked at Chloe with his puppy eyes all evening. Especially after he found out about Tobias' diagnosis about Chloe... TW's acting is strange these days, IMO...

[a silent liaison]

I believe the gesture was friendly, but I can see why others may think it to be romantic -- when Clark placed his arm around Chloe, it seemed as though the camera sort of ''zoomed'' in on that shot, making an emphasis.

[boywithbluehanger]

The only thing I didn't like about that scene is that Clark never tells Pete he'll be watching over him. And c'mon, Pete left for nearly getting killed due to keeping Clarks secret!!

Of course a scene like that would probably greatly question Clarks..well...umm...manhood? :\

[Super Maverick]

it was sweet

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by a silent liaison
...when Clark placed his arm around Chloe, it seemed as though the camera sort of ''zoomed'' in on that shot, making an emphasis.
That occurred to me as well, I agree...

[chlarkfan333]

I don't care to analyse whether or not that gesture/comment was intended to hint at future Chlark romance. I just really enjoyed it. Period. There was something about that scene that was special and TW's delivery had everything to do with it.

[Absolute Kingdom]

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
I don't care to analyse whether or not that gesture/comment was intended to hint at future Chlark romance. I just really enjoyed it. Period. There was something about that scene that was special and TW's delivery had everything to do with it.

I agree, it was a very cute scene.

[wallyK]

When I heard the line, I just thought, what can Clark do about it anyway? If Chloe gains a power that causes her to go on a killing spree, Clark will have to take her down. I thought he should have emphasized that it's not special abilities which make you bad, but how you choose to use them. If you look at past meteor freaks, you have 1) freaks who have conditions where they have to kill in order to stay alive, 2) freaks who decide to use their ability for evil, 3) freaks who decide to use their ability for good, or at least not evil. If Chloe becomes a #1) freak, Clark will have to kill her. But we will just have to see what the writers decide.

[Blong]

Originally posted by TheRowdy
This scene was so totally cute! It made my heart smile! Go Chlark!!!! :D

Great post TheRwody... it made me smile.

[SmallvilleMan]

It could be yes,but not if its meant to show for once his feelings r changin.I do agree,clark isn't the type to step in on a ship like chlimmy's but it doesn't mean he cant have feelings from afar.I think the whole DP scene was to show for once clark luvs chloe back(Romantic or not is arguable).And that now he is startin to see her for more than jus a friend but he wouldn't dare do anythin about it,so he chooses to show his appreciation other wayz.Jus as u stated jimmy was scared of losin chloe early on,but imo clark looked more scared(He jus didn't speakup/show his panic as quick as jimmy but the facial expressions were there).And tho the jimmy's words about regrets were meant for him,I think sum of it was meant for clark 2 which is why he comfort her at the end.To show her in sum form(Which console a friend he atleast can do wit her)that he cares.Even tho chlimmy is datin,if tptb jus wanted to show that for once chloe's feelings for him isn't jus 1 sided/she'd risk it all for him...they atleast showed that he's willing to do the same and risk hurtin her to save her.So I think their moment is hard to overlook since the whole epi shows chlark's trust.And when him/jimmy thought she was missin both guyz seems hurt,but where as jimmy was startin to giveup hope clark didn't.But the chlark interaction at the end cant be overlooked tho(Even if she is datin)cause it wasn't ur normal chlark comfort moment.Where it leads who knows,cause she is still datin and he isn't completely over lana yet.But imo it does show that he atleast acknowledges that chloe is more than jus a friend

Of course it wasn't a normal moment. I think people are underestimating the situation in which Chloe and Clark were in. Chloe was in tears, because she basically felt her life was seconds from being over considering who she was no a meteor freak or was. Clark being the best friend that he is, isn't just going to po po this moment. It's suppose to be a very touchy scene of a strong friendship. Clark loves her as his very best friend.

[natwelling]

In that sceane it shows alot about how he feals about chloe... maybie as a friend or more than that....who knows... all I know is that he has to protect her cuz Lex is getting evil every day..

[Ayanne]

That scene is a perfect example of the chemistry & depth of Chlark.

The level of intimacy between Chloe & Clark & chemistry of TW/AM is by far the best on Smallville.

I loved it & that was some great acting by both Tom & Allison - directing by MR.

Clark's feelings for Chloe are deep - whatever they might be.

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

It was a really beautiful scene. I think the Chlark this season has been the best it's ever been....makes this Clana fan want more chlark for sure!

[Ayanne]

Originally posted by Mrs.Bizzaro
It was a really beautiful scene. I think the Chlark this season has been the best it's ever been....makes this Clana fan want more chlark for sure!


It's not a gimmick, it's REAL based on 6 years of foundation between the 2 characters.

I not only found Chlark amazing last night, but I loved Lana & Chloe. I 100% bought them as best friends.

[shirkie]

The Chlark was gorgeous. Simply gorgeous. No one can rain on this gal's Chlark Parade.
shirkie

[Dor el]

Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Yeah and Pamela Anderson has natural boobs.

Now, that's stinking funny!


Originally posted by myankskent
I don't see how this is interpretted as more than friendship, especially since Clark just made that clear to Jimmy last week. I guess whenever a person comforts someone else when they are upset and puts their hand on their arm, that's a romantic gesture?

I think they are great and devoted friends. But.....I think it would make for some good scenes on the show if they could be more than just friends if only for a while and I don't mean x-rated. We know how it all ends, but why not have some good TV for now? Chloe and Clark are great together in comedy, drama, and fantasy scenes. AM and TW really do play off each other well and their scenes together are usually so right on and they suck you in to what's going on with them. Not always, but usually. At least from my perspective.


Originally posted by chlarkfan333
I don't care to analyse whether or not that gesture/comment was intended to hint at future Chlark romance. I just really enjoyed it. Period. There was something about that scene that was special and TW's delivery had everything to do with it.

Amen.

[ms.c.]

I thought Clark's line was wonderful and sweet. Great line.

[ajwsmallville]

It was a very cute scene, but I don't think it was a "more than friends" kind of scene

[TheRowdy]

Did anyone else notice that when Clark put his hand on Chloe's arm a tear from Chloe's eye fell on Clark's finger. It was so cute hehe. :D

[Khyla]

Originally posted by TheRowdy
Did anyone else notice that when Clark put his hand on Chloe's arm a tear from Chloe's eye fell on Clark's finger. It was so cute hehe. :D YES! *sigh* I didn't notice at first, but when i watched again i did! Beautiful! They certainly went out of their way to show us thru physical displays, all of CHlark's deep love, trust, care, and need for each other. The bond is stronger than ever!


Originally posted by Dor el
...I think they are great and devoted friends. But.....I think it would make for some good scenes on the show if they could be more than just friends if only for a while and I don't mean x-rated. We know how it all ends, but why not have some good TV for now? Chloe and Clark are great together in comedy, drama, and fantasy scenes. AM and TW really do play off each other well and their scenes together are usually so right on and they suck you in to what's going on with them. Not always, but usually. At least from my perspective. I couldn't agree with you more! I've been saying the same thing for quite some time now! I hope tptb don't miss a great opportunity to have CHlark explore that unchartered territory. It could make for some great displays of humor, tenderness, fighting, and a little sci fi fantasy all rolled into one, given by the best team going TW/AM! :)

[ShelbyKent]

It was a touching scene. I liked it. Clark always makes sure he protects all the people who are close to him. The "personal bomb squad line" had enough humor to lighten up distressed Chloe.

Loved Chloe's dress in that scene :)

[darkone]

It was a touching friendship moment nothing more,nothing less.Could also forshadow that probably something happens to Chloe in the future.Not that farfetched given the spoilers of upcoming episodes.

[freefall]

It's a very touching scene. Ranks up there with the Splinter hug.

It's very hard for you to find the right thing to say to calm down your friend after she's convinced she's going to end up dead or insane, without sounding insincere or trivializing her concerns, but Clark did and said just the right thing. You could see Chloe immediately thinking, this won't be so bad after all, I can pull through this.

[clois_lover10]

Aww that scene was adorable!!! I wanna watch it again and again and again... :D

[Peat Moss]

Why does everyone seem to have the idea that friendship is more shallow and trite than romance, and that romance is the high point of caring for someone? Some of you seem to be saying that the only reason a man and a woman would be just friends is because something is keeping them from the intimate relationship they want. Maybe two people can just be friends, and want to be friends, and have just as deep a relationship as two people in love.
The close-up was to emphasize that he cared a lot for her, as a friend. You can care a lot for someone as a friend. Being someone's friend doesn't mean you think less of them than if you were dating. It was a very deep scene, showing what a great guy Clark is. I think it would be pointless to bring back Chlark, because eventually they would have to break up and that would urin their friendship.

[Coyote]

It was a cute scene, and helps to build up more impact for next season when Chloe turns freak and has to be killed, either by Lex or Clark himself.

[DorkMatter]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
Why does everyone seem to have the idea that friendship is more shallow and trite than romance, and that romance is the high point of caring for someone?

I want to say first that I disagree with most of what you say, but although my point of view is rather different, thank you for pointing out this most annoying of insinuations. Maybe some people actually believe this, and maybe more generally it's just in the phrasing. For example, when one says things like "just friends" or "more than friends" do they imply that romance is merely something in addition to friendship or that romance itself is somehow deeper? The true meaning is rarely clear from the common use of language in such cases, even when substantial context is provided, but the default implication is that romance is more significant than friendship.

On this specific show, there is no deeper, more intimate relationship than the one between Clark and Chloe. This is true regardless of the presence or absence of "romantic feelings" between them. Romance, per se, on this show tends to be rather shallow on its own, driven by sexual desire and childhood fantasies instead of trust and love for one another. The show tries so hard to throw a bone to fans of every potential relationship in order to string them along for ratings, making romance out to be some kind of epic force more powerful than Superman himself, but in the end, it's still shallow and hollow compared to the Chlark friendship.

So what does it mean to be "just friends?" That makes friendship sound as casual as mere acquaintance. Are all friendships as close, loving, and downright mushy as Chlark? I wonder what the typical reaction would be from a girlfriend or boyfriend who saw the kind of interaction between them that drives Chlark fans wild. Would Clark care to express to Chloe how he feels in front of Jimmy? Why not? They're "just friends," right? This kind of intimacy has nothing to do with real romance, right? Uh-huh....


Originally posted by Peat Moss
Some of you seem to be saying that the only reason a man and a woman would be just friends is because something is keeping them from the intimate relationship they want. Maybe two people can just be friends, and want to be friends, and have just as deep a relationship as two people in love.

I suppose that's possible, but what's the difference between such a friendship and being "in love?" Was Clark more emotionally and personally intimate with Lana or Alicia because he was "in love" with them? I think not. What happens in real life when a heterosexual man is far more intimate with a female "friend" than his girlfriend or even his wife? I'm not saying that this doesn't happen--I've seen it, and all I can say is: AWK-WARD! :) In fact, one such pair of friends that I know ended both of their strained (for other reasons, as far as I know) marriages to other people, and married each other.


Originally posted by Peat Moss
The close-up was to emphasize that he cared a lot for her, as a friend. You can care a lot for someone as a friend.

Sure, but isn't your lover supposed to be your closest friend? I realize that it's not quite that simple in real life, and that most of one's "lovers" can be quite casual, but we're not dealing with trifles like that--everything about this story has got to be epic!


Originally posted by Peat Moss
Being someone's friend doesn't mean you think less of them than if you were dating.

Yeah, but why isn't Clark "dating" Chloe? If they were close but had trouble being intimate for whatever reason (e.g. competitive with each other, viewing their relationship as that of siblings or parent/child, etc.), that would be one thing, but like I said, they're mushy as all-get-out. Nah, the only reason is that this setup allows TPTB to drag out the story while continuing to tantalize viewers enough to stick around until the end. I don't know which segments of the audience they're going to choose to satisfy or piss off, but frankly I'm not sure whether I even care anymore, because I know what they should do after more than five seasons of dicking around with us, and it involves the deepest relationship on the show--Chlark--fulfilling the potential that it was so skillfully given. If they don't, then they will have squandered their own best efforts because they were cowards.


Originally posted by Peat Moss
It was a very deep scene, showing what a great guy Clark is. I think it would be pointless to bring back Chlark, because eventually they would have to break up and that would urin their friendship.

It would be equally as pointless to set the relationship up in such a way, and then fail to follow through for no explicable reason. That is, unless the point they're trying to make is that romance ruins friendships, and that the two are mutually exclusive. In that case, they should go ahead and ruin the friendship, otherwise the show really would be pointless. :rolleyes:

[spikespiegle]

lol i thought it was a kind of cheesy way to say what he said but as forforementioned in previous posts...great scene.....ps i also expected jimmy to walk in on that scene

[Nightingale20]

It was a touching and sweet scene. :)

[Krypton935]

that was like the greatest thing! THat scene was so cute! Go Chlark!!

[smallvillefreak24]

awwww.....

[svfan50]

touching scene..but i wish..insted of touching the elbow.....clark would have given a hug .......or sort of caressed the shoulders...sumthing more....

[Absolute Kingdom]

... like a kiss? :D

[Ayanne]

Originally posted by svfan50
touching scene..but i wish..insted of touching the elbow.....clark would have given a hug .......or sort of caressed the shoulders...sumthing more....


He does have his arm around her shoulder. :D I actually think the focus on Clark's hand reaching out to grasp her arm, the single tear falling on his hand conveyed a greater intimacy.

It was a fabulous scene!

[Khyla]

Originally posted by DorkMatter
... when one says things like "just friends" or "more than friends" do they imply that romance is merely something in addition to friendship or that romance itself is somehow deeper? ...

On this specific show, there is no deeper, more intimate relationship than the one between Clark and Chloe. This is true regardless of the presence or absence of "romantic feelings" between them. Romance, per se, on this show tends to be rather shallow on its own, driven by sexual desire and childhood fantasies instead of trust and love for one another. The show tries so hard to throw a bone to fans of every potential relationship in order to string them along for ratings, making romance out to be some kind of epic force more powerful than Superman himself, but in the end, it's still shallow and hollow compared to the Chlark friendship.

So what does it mean to be "just friends?" That makes friendship sound as casual as mere acquaintance. Are all friendships as close, loving, and downright mushy as Chlark? I wonder what the typical reaction would be from a girlfriend or boyfriend who saw the kind of interaction between them that drives Chlark fans wild. Would Clark care to express to Chloe how he feels in front of Jimmy? Why not? They're "just friends," right? This kind of intimacy has nothing to do with real romance, right? Uh-huh....



I don't know which segments of the audience they're going to choose to satisfy or piss off, but frankly I'm not sure whether I even care anymore, because I know what they should do after more than five seasons of dicking around with us, and it involves the deepest relationship on the show--Chlark--fulfilling the potential that it was so skillfully given. If they don't, then they will have squandered their own best efforts because they were cowards. Phenomenal post! Beautifully insightful! I couldn't agree more with everything you say here!!!! Thank you!!! (myself being one who married her best friend, i can testify... there's nothing better.. ;) :) )


Originally posted by Ayanne
He does have his arm around her shoulder. :D I actually think the focus on Clark's hand reaching out to grasp her arm, the single tear falling on his hand conveyed a greater intimacy.
TOTALLY!!! :)

[SteveS]

"On this specific show, there is no deeper, more intimate relationship than the one between Clark and Chloe. This is true regardless of the presence or absence of "romantic feelings" between them. Romance, per se, on this show tends to be rather shallow on its own, driven by sexual desire and childhood fantasies instead of trust and love for one another. The show tries so hard to throw a bone to fans of every potential relationship in order to string them along for ratings, making romance out to be some kind of epic force more powerful than Superman himself, but in the end, it's still shallow and hollow compared to the Chlark friendship."

That was truly excellent, glad to see it articulated so well. What Chloe and Clark has is something that millions of couples involved in sexual relationships wish they had, a complete, honest bonding on a non-physical level. That, rather than a ridiculous statement made a couple of years ago by Lana, it what would make a best relationship.

[freefall]

Originally posted by DorkMatter
It would be equally as pointless to set the relationship up in such a way, and then fail to follow through for no explicable reason. That is, unless the point they're trying to make is that romance ruins friendships, and that the two are mutually exclusive. In that case, they should go ahead and ruin the friendship, otherwise the show really would be pointless. :rolleyes:

With AlMiles, that's what you should expect anyway. They did say they didn't want to do Chlark because it would ruin the friendship :rolleyes: I don't want to turn a discussion of such a touching friendship moment to shipper arguing here, but to me, Clark's very strong assertion in Trespass that he and Chloe are just friends should be taken seriously at this point of time.

He even swore on it, I hate to think that someone like Clark would simply swear like that if he didn't mean it at that time. I'm not saying that Chlark possibility has been ruled out completely, we have at least one more season to go after all, but I'm just going with what we do know about their relationship right now, and that is purely friendship.

Clark always has rapport/attachment/affection with the people in his life, even the ones he has just met, like Kyle, Perry, Ryan etc. So with his best friend like Chloe, of course he's much more attached with her. Clark is also a guy who openly displays his affectionate gestures when he wants to comfort someone, it makes sense for him to hold Chloe's arm like that.

[Peat Moss]

DorkMatter, you bring up some interesting points. Most of these I agree with. What I mean when I say they should no pursue a relationship goes with what you said about shallow relationships. I'm afraid that if it does become a romantic relationship, it will become shallow and based on lust, like the other relationships on the show. And you can be married to one woman and be friends with another, and still love your wife. SV seems to go with the idea that any girl you don't marry is either because you weren't good enough for them, or they weren't good enough for you. That's why I disliked in Lexmas, when Lex and Clark (in Lex's dream) were discussing Lana. Here they are, best friends, but Clark still thinks Lex got Lana because he was the better man, that he "won" Lana when Clark could not. Couldn't Clark still be friends with Lana?
People saying that this touch means they should become intimately involved is like those who call Frodo and Sam homosexual. It's just not true, and the people who say this don't understand a deep friendship between two people that has nothing to do with romance.

In conclusion, DorkMatter, I agree with much of what you say and that is exactly why they SHOULDN'T become romantically involved. Clearly they're not going to get married any time soon, and having an intimate relationship just because they seem to have "chemistry" would ruin the friendship, and almost the show itself.

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by Absolute Kingdom
... like a kiss? :D
yea a kiss would have worked :D but hey could u blame him if he did in that scene :) .But naw honestly I thought the scene was tellin,and great to see whether it was a rubbin of the arm/hug/kiss or whatever.Great chlark scene


Originally posted by DorkMatter
I want to say first that I disagree with most of what you say, but although my point of view is rather different, thank you for pointing out this most annoying of insinuations. Maybe some people actually believe this, and maybe more generally it's just in the phrasing. For example, when one says things like "just friends" or "more than friends" do they imply that romance is merely something in addition to friendship or that romance itself is somehow deeper? The true meaning is rarely clear from the common use of language in such cases, even when substantial context is provided, but the default implication is that romance is more significant than friendship.

On this specific show, there is no deeper, more intimate relationship than the one between Clark and Chloe. This is true regardless of the presence or absence of "romantic feelings" between them. Romance, per se, on this show tends to be rather shallow on its own, driven by sexual desire and childhood fantasies instead of trust and love for one another. The show tries so hard to throw a bone to fans of every potential relationship in order to string them along for ratings, making romance out to be some kind of epic force more powerful than Superman himself, but in the end, it's still shallow and hollow compared to the Chlark friendship.

So what does it mean to be "just friends?" That makes friendship sound as casual as mere acquaintance. Are all friendships as close, loving, and downright mushy as Chlark? I wonder what the typical reaction would be from a girlfriend or boyfriend who saw the kind of interaction between them that drives Chlark fans wild. Would Clark care to express to Chloe how he feels in front of Jimmy? Why not? They're "just friends," right? This kind of intimacy has nothing to do with real romance, right? Uh-huh....



I suppose that's possible, but what's the difference between such a friendship and being "in love?" Was Clark more emotionally and personally intimate with Lana or Alicia because he was "in love" with them? I think not. What happens in real life when a heterosexual man is far more intimate with a female "friend" than his girlfriend or even his wife? I'm not saying that this doesn't happen--I've seen it, and all I can say is: AWK-WARD! :) In fact, one such pair of friends that I know ended both of their strained (for other reasons, as far as I know) marriages to other people, and married each other.



Sure, but isn't your lover supposed to be your closest friend? I realize that it's not quite that simple in real life, and that most of one's "lovers" can be quite casual, but we're not dealing with trifles like that--everything about this story has got to be epic!



Yeah, but why isn't Clark "dating" Chloe? If they were close but had trouble being intimate for whatever reason (e.g. competitive with each other, viewing their relationship as that of siblings or parent/child, etc.), that would be one thing, but like I said, they're mushy as all-get-out. Nah, the only reason is that this setup allows TPTB to drag out the story while continuing to tantalize viewers enough to stick around until the end. I don't know which segments of the audience they're going to choose to satisfy or piss off, but frankly I'm not sure whether I even care anymore, because I know what they should do after more than five seasons of dicking around with us, and it involves the deepest relationship on the show--Chlark--fulfilling the potential that it was so skillfully given. If they don't, then they will have squandered their own best efforts because they were cowards.



It would be equally as pointless to set the relationship up in such a way, and then fail to follow through for no explicable reason. That is, unless the point they're trying to make is that romance ruins friendships, and that the two are mutually exclusive. In that case, they should go ahead and ruin the friendship, otherwise the show really would be pointless. :rolleyes:
Another great post,I agree :D

[redraven]

"Consider me your own personal bombsquad."

What a cute friendship quote. :D

Seriously though, it was a nice scene but I didn't see anything romantic about it.

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by myankskent
And you don't think that it's to show that Clark is trying to be there and comfort Chloe in her time of need? The fact that they zoomed in on his hand shows that Clark is there to protect Chloe and keep her safe. In light of what was said just last week with Clark only seeing Chloe as a friend, I don't see this particular scene as anything more than friendship. That question has been answered.

Well the problem with using the agrument that Clark vowed to Jimmy that he's just a friend doesn't hold much water for what might be going on in Clark's heart for several reasons.
One, he gave the same line to Whitney when Whitney had the same concerns as Jimmy with Clark on his close friendship with Lana in S1.
We know Clark would never act on his true feelings because he respects when a person is in a relationship with another person. He's an honorable guy despite what he himself may be feeling. He knows Chloe is happy with Jimmy right now and he doesn't want to mess with her happiness. He's stated so much when he said that his secret made a mess of his relationship with Lana and now it's happening to Chloe's relationship. He was actually being very Supes like instead of Clark like...finally yeah!
The reality is this season we have been given scenes to show that Clark is interested in all three girls....ones' personal bias will always be the it was romantic or not guide. Just tptb trying to keep happy all shippers.
In any case, for me it was a great Chlark scene and a great Superman scene. Personal bomb squad... I see some much needed Supes progression.

[Rhoda123]

Regardless if it was romantic or not, the fact is, I find it quite wonderful that this relationship has been the one that has stayed most true to itself..

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by Rhoda123
Regardless if it was romantic or not, the fact is, I find it quite wonderful that this relationship has been the one that has stayed most true to itself..

Definitely. The relationship between these two characters is by far the most healthy and honest relationship no matter where you stand on the two of them getting together romantically.

[RedKRules]

I liked that scene very much .......it was touching ........ :)

[RPMSDB]

I do not know if there was or was not anything beyond friendship behind Clark holding Chloe’s arm. But, there was something about it that was different on his part than anything I’ve seen before. It did remind me of the time he grabbed her hand in season one. However, there was something much deeper and meaningful this time.

Also, the fact that he just found out Lana would be okay with him being a freak, but not mentioning that or Lana, spoke volumes to me. I do not think that has ever happened before (of course, I could be wrong).

I think Clark’s actions at the DP was perfect. I know many of you wanted him to do more (like kiss Chloe). But there are times when less is more. This was one of those times. It would have been wrong on both parts if Clark had kissed Chloe. Jimmy is still her boyfriend (no matter how painful that may or may not be), and that is what would have made it wrong for both of them.

Bottom line, Freak was the perfect example of why I always have and always will ship Chlark. There is just something so real and refreshing about their relationship. It transcends any relationship I have ever seen on TV or in the movies, as well as any I have ever read in a book (I have read PLENTY of books).

[freefall]

This thread is very reminiscent of the Lois and Clark handholding in the Zod forum last time. We can all argue till the cows come home, or like a previous poster pointed out, till we've satisfied our shipper agendas.

Clark is a very good friend, he's even good to villains and bad guys, it's just in his nature to comfort anyone and say the absolute right thing, and do the right thing without making it insincere or trivializing their hurts/concerns. Especially to someone who thinks she's a ticking time bomb, and to someone who thinks she has died and is lucky to be alive.

As a Cloiser, I simply saw Clark trying to comfort Lois in Zod, Lois appreciated it but she's uncomfortable with his gesture, because Clark has never done that ("Since when do we hold hands?!") That's all.

And as a non-Chlarker, I saw a superb top notch good old-fashioned friendship moment in Freak. Chloe has been there for him only God knows how many times, it's only right for him to be there for Chloe this time.

[Peat Moss]

^^ thank you--well said

[RedKRules]

That scene was really sweet ....

[svfan50]

Originally posted by RPMSDB
I do not know if there was or was not anything beyond friendship behind Clark holding Chloe’s arm. But, there was something about it that was different on his part than anything I’ve seen before. It did remind me of the time he grabbed her hand in season one. However, there was something much deeper and meaningful this time.

Also, the fact that he just found out Lana would be okay with him being a freak, but not mentioning that or Lana, spoke volumes to me. I do not think that has ever happened before (of course, I could be wrong).

I think Clark’s actions at the DP was perfect. I know many of you wanted him to do more (like kiss Chloe). But there are times when less is more. This was one of those times. It would have been wrong on both parts if Clark had kissed Chloe. Jimmy is still her boyfriend (no matter how painful that may or may not be), and that is what would have made it wrong for both of them.

Bottom line, Freak was the perfect example of why I always have and always will ship Chlark. There is just something so real and refreshing about their relationship. It transcends any relationship I have ever seen on TV or in the movies, as well as any I have ever read in a book (I have read PLENTY of books).

You said it just perfect...!!!!!!!! Sometimes less is more..!!!!!! just right!!!!!!

It is true....Clark and Chloe's relationship is the only relation that is soo truthful and soo trustworthy.....!!!!!! It is just perfect!!!!!!!

[niki]

WOW ... I did not expect this thread to make it 12 pages.
I definitely think they have the perfect friendship, and they've been so honest with each other. Let's see if it will be develop into anything more, but I admire their friendship so much (who cares if it's TV, it's good)!

[RPMSDB]

Originally posted by svfan50
You said it just perfect...!!!!!!!! Sometimes less is more..!!!!!! just right!!!!!!

It is true....Clark and Chloe's relationship is the only relation that is soo truthful and soo trustworthy.....!!!!!! It is just perfect!!!!!!!

Thanks! It is very close to perfection (if you get my drift), isn't it?

There has been something about the final Chlark scene that has been baffling me. There is no doubt in my mind there was something so much more powerful, stronger, and intimate than friendship. Not only in what he said, but how he said it -- but mostly the zooming in on the arm grasp.

It finally dawned on me last night that Clark's bomb squad statement was not only a promise to protect her physically (which he has always done), but to be there for her mentally and emotionally.

I don't really think Clark has ever truly been there for in ths way before. Not on this level anyway. Sure, he's been there for her as a friend, but he has shared a very limited mental and emotional relationship with her which has ALWAYS been tied into Lana.

I think that's why him not mentioning Lana at this time at all spoke volumes.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by RPMSDB
I do not know if there was or was not anything beyond friendship behind Clark holding Chloe’s arm. But, there was something about it that was different on his part than anything I’ve seen before. It did remind me of the time he grabbed her hand in season one. However, there was something much deeper and meaningful this time.

Also, the fact that he just found out Lana would be okay with him being a freak, but not mentioning that or Lana, spoke volumes to me. I do not think that has ever happened before (of course, I could be wrong).

I think Clark’s actions at the DP was perfect. I know many of you wanted him to do more (like kiss Chloe). But there are times when less is more. This was one of those times. It would have been wrong on both parts if Clark had kissed Chloe. Jimmy is still her boyfriend (no matter how painful that may or may not be), and that is what would have made it wrong for both of them.

Bottom line, Freak was the perfect example of why I always have and always will ship Chlark. There is just something so real and refreshing about their relationship. It transcends any relationship I have ever seen on TV or in the movies, as well as any I have ever read in a book (I have read PLENTY of books).

I completely agree with you!!! Most relationships that start out as friendship first with respect and admiration thrown in make the best kind of romances. There is already so much trust and honesty between those two. And it is the best relationship in any tv or movies.. I agree..

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by RPMSDB
I think that's why him not mentioning Lana at this time at all spoke volumes.
Oh man, if he had......my TV had gone through the window, I swear!!!
:mad:

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Oh man, if he had......my TV had gone through the window, I swear!!!
:mad:
yea but I think after what all she's went thru,and what he's went thru(Her death in lab,embarrassin her in crimson,her kidnap/panic in freak)I think clark is slowly startin to wise up.I expect him to stop talkin about lana or atleast his feelings for lana around chloe pretty soon.I think Freak was jus the start of clark realizin sumthin,where it goes who knows...But it was definitely sumthin diff from clark when he was around chloe in freak

[All about Clark]

I'm a Chlark fan, but that he touched her arm and not around her shoulders, I really only saw this act as friendship. There was definite bounderies. I think it was sincere compassion from Clark because he's different and quite possibly she is too now. He can relate to her worries, he had the same type when Jor-el wanted him. He thought he would lose himself and that's exactly what Chloe fears, it makes sense for him to want to comfort her.

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Oh man, if he had......my TV had gone through the window, I swear!!!
:mad:
Awww, that would have sucked. Clana is so unhealthy now.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by All about Clark
I'm a Chlark fan, but that he touched her arm and not around her shoulders,... He did have his other arm across her shoulders and it looked to me like his other hand was holding hers there (at her other shoulder). it was very close, very open, very sincere.

CLick on the pic that comes up and you can view the actual footage :) :
http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2839484#post2839484

[thedarknight]

LOL I bet this romantic Chlark thing will be debated till the end of the series If they were going to do it, they would have already done it. There just isn't enough time; Lana, Chloe a freak, the zoners, 33.1, and the training. Romantic Chlark is just a plot device that leads nowhere.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by thedarknight
LOL I bet this romantic Chlark thing will be debated till the end of the series If they were going to do it, they would have already done it. There just isn't enough time; Lana, Chloe a freak, the zoners, 33.1, and the training. Romantic Chlark is just a plot device that leads nowhere. Not enough time??? Most Chlarkers, not including myself, think it's gonna happen at the series finale anyway... I personally think it'll start to happen before that.

And who says he's going into training before the series ends??

AND they're already talkin about a SEASON 8, so there's plenty of time! :)

Chlark is a phenomenon that's been building upon itself since the beginning of the series, experiencing every test of emotion, trust, growth, dependence, reliance, strength, faith, intelligence, and self-worth.
---I wouldn't call it a mere plot device that leads nowhere.

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by Khyla
I wouldn't call it a mere plot device that leads nowhere.
Me neither. If there is a Season 8, it will be the best season of the series. Even if all the episodes are fillers and crappy episodes, they will be the best. KK is leading everyone to believe that after Season 7, she is done. Since that's when her contract is up, and she says she probably won't renew it, I'm praying for a Season 8. A whole season with no Lana?!? I'm getting goosebumps with this anticipation.

[Tomsgurl88]

Guys, don't get your hopes up because i seriously doubt that there will be a season 8, i mean a show with Lex,Chloe, or Lana??? they are not going to take that risk, the show should end with ALL of the characters.

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by Tomsgurl88
Guys, don't get your hopes up because i seriously doubt that there will be a season 8, i mean a show with Lex,Chloe, or Lana??? they are not going to take that risk, the show should end with ALL of the characters.
As long as they get MR and TW, they should be fine. If they can't get either of them, there is no show. I'm just looking forward to a Season 8 just for the hope of it being without Lana.

[Tomsgurl88]

Well next season is the last season for MR as it is for most of the rest of the cast so most likely will be the last season, and i don't Lana is so terrible that a season without her would be great.

[Raging Clue]

Originally posted by Tomsgurl88
Well next season is the last season for MR as it is for most of the rest of the cast so most likely will be the last season, and i don't Lana is so terrible that a season without her would be great.
I think everybody's contracts were for seven seasons. If they get a big enough budget to sign MR and TW, then I'd be there will be an eighth season.

Season 7 isn't even confirmed yet, but they are already talking about a Season 8.

[Khyla]

Originally posted by Tomsgurl88
Guys, don't get your hopes up because i seriously doubt that there will be a season 8, i mean a show with Lex,Chloe, or Lana??? they are not going to take that risk, the show should end with ALL of the characters. it's called progression. We lost Pa Kent, like in the comics, and likewise ther have entire series of comics without Lana. Her involvement can easily be put aside from the main thrust of the show. Now without Chloe or Lex, i'm not so sure... MR, at this point says he won't be around after S7 :( , but I could see some additional Justice League action and standing up against new villians with maybe references to an underground Lex who may be behind a lot of evil-doings... and hopefully CHloe will remain by Clark's side at the DP. I would hope Lionel could stay on too.

[Raging Clue]

I suppose they could do the show without Lex. Doing it without Lex would be like doing it without Chloe or Clark. I just don't see it happening. Besides, they aren't doing a Justice League show, they're doing a movie :(

[thedarknight]

Yea if Lex's gone there is no show. It's like that 70's show, they lost one of there best characters and the last season sucked. Season 7 will be the last.


Originally posted by Khyla


Chlark is a phenomenon that's been building upon itself since the beginning of the series, experiencing every test of emotion, trust, growth, dependence, reliance, strength, faith, intelligence, and self-worth.
---I wouldn't call it a mere plot device that leads nowhere.

And how would it lead somewhere when(there is no if) they go back to friends or she dies (just like any of his other girlfriends)? It makes no sense for Chlark to happen, the next person he'll have feelings for is Lois. Now that's been building up since she came on board.

[Khyla]

there will be no clois on SV

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=3176


"We can't play any romance between those two characters," said Millar. "We did sort of vaguely, because of the Red Kryptonite, get into that area. We're very pleased to have her on the show, and we feel very lucky that the features department let us use the character at all. So it's not a problem."

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Clark's other gf's came out of nowhere and went back to nowhere. --that is the opposite of CHloe. ANd Now they've added even more tension to them takin it further, since she may have meteorfreak "powers" to deal with, but at the same time it's making their bond stronger.



Chlark makes more sense than anything:

Chlark is growth

Chlark is maturity.

Chlark is realistic love.

Chlark is acceptance and love of oneself .

[Peat Moss]

If they have an 8th season, I really, really think it should have Lex. No Lex=maybe no more SV. And I hope they're actually planning where they want to go with this show, not just making it up as they go along, for however many seasons they can get the actors.

[Raistlin]

I really liked this scene.