Even if you were meteor infected...you would be the same Clark Kent...

[fitmis]

This scene was very emotional and "telling" for me....about Lana's feelings for Clark...

[jimmyolsenblues]

Whoops.
BDA did not see that coming.

[LuckyMRH]

aww! I think he is gonna end up telling her.

[niki]

Hmm, maybe Clark will now be inclined to tell her, even though she's now convinced he's not meteor-infected.

[Rey-El]

She already said that When the Army Dude was killing off Meteor Freaks.

[jeffct87]

doubtful... cloe said the same thing. He never told her even if it was going to cost his life... she had to follow him into the cold

[paolinki25]

or maybe Lana is acting Luthor like, so Clark will tell her his secret....

[emsfan]

very emotional scene! Im surprise!

[redraven]

She already said that in Season 3. Extinction, I think. It didn't change his mind then why would it now. :rolleyes:

[stealingclark]

the acting was good.. just seeing the look on clarks face when she said that looked like he was touched and relieved...

[liebevision]

I thought clark was gonna cry!

[myankskent]

I think that Lana, if nothing else, sees that Clark is special and regardless of the lies that he has told her, he has his reasons. This seems to be something that Lana is beginning to realize in these last few episodes, IMO.

[fitmis]

Clark (in one of my posts I did express) is not being very secretive about his "powers" to Lana lately. Clark honestly loves Lana and is being "sloppy" with his powers......i.e. Saving Lana.....but....somehow....Lana does not notice so much (honestly.....a real woman in the real world would say "why are you here at the Lex Mansion and catch ME!"

Clark....somehow avoids her statement...but Lana is not stupid...and she has seen recently, all the things questioning about Clark..including asking Tobias about Clark....and being suspiscious about Tobias' answers....INTELLECTUALLY...."things" did not make sense and.....you know....WOMEN ARE VERY GOOD at feeling...sensing, and ultimately KNOWING....Lana WILL KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!

Lana in her heart and senses, and "knows" her Clark is "good" and Lex, who she does love, but Lana is "very suspicious" still of Lex.
"
A "Love" and "Hate Relationship....sadly with Lex Luther and Lana Lang.l

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by myankskent
I think that Lana, if nothing else, sees that Clark is special and regardless of the lies that he has told her, he has his reasons. This seems to be something that Lana is beginning to realize in these last few episodes, IMO.

Agree! Lana will forever put Clark before everyone else regardless. That's the true Lana Lang from the comics.

[dave73085]

I still think her feelings would change for the worse if she knew that HE was the reason her parents died and ABANDONED her. She never got that part in Reckoning.

[HowardFilms]

It amazes me how people are shocked when she says the exact same thing over and over again...

[monstra]

Beaaaautiful scene.

Clark looked soooo touched, like he was about to cry.

Clana<3

[jck97]

Originally posted by dave73085
I still think her feelings would change for the worse if she knew that HE was the reason her parents died and ABANDONED her. She never got that part in Reckoning.

Unless Lana's completely dense, I'm sure she knew Clark arrived during the first meteor shower. She even mentioned in Fanatic that a ship came to Earth during the first meteor shower. Knowing that and Clark telling her the truth tshe should've put 2&2 together. And I'm sure that she wouldn't blame him for something that happened when he was an infant.

[Crispin Glover]

AWESOME

[D.M.A.]

Originally posted by myankskent
I think that Lana, if nothing else, sees that Clark is special and regardless of the lies that he has told her, he has his reasons. This seems to be something that Lana is beginning to realize in these last few episodes, IMO.
I agree,and I think thats why she's been determine lately to find out the secret.The past few epi's have showed her realizin that if he does have powers he's atleast helpin ppl.And she jus seems to want to know exactly what he can do/what he is,but I definitely think she was sincere tonight talkin to him.She believes he's a hero now so thats a plus on her side,I see friendship buildin from this.And if she learns more and starts secretly savin him(Like chloe did in s4)then I expect lex to catch on by the finale and turn against her only to see her side wit clark.And maybe then he'll realize lana knows the full secret in the finale,and jus build off clark protectin her from lex next season.But I definitely see friendship buildin,nothin more thankfully :D

[Clark Jr. the great]

Originally posted by dave73085
I still think her feelings would change for the worse if she knew that HE was the reason her parents died and ABANDONED her. She never got that part in Reckoning.

The way I see it I think you want her to be mad at clark. So that the Lana hating can grow and so you guys get even more reasons to bash her :D

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by dave73085
I still think her feelings would change for the worse if she knew that HE was the reason her parents died and ABANDONED her. She never got that part in Reckoning.

Once she finds out, I think she will also find out that Zod is the true person who killed both Clark's parents (and his race) and Lana's too. It all stems down to how Jor-El said that Zod was behind Krypton's destruction.

[SteveS]

Too bad that Lana is so emotionally unstable and volatile, her statement was sweet, but you can never tell when she is going to do an instanteous reversal on you or Clark, plus she is sleeping with the enemy.

Too bad, but she can be told the truth or trusted. It is a tragedy.

[Freezeia]

Originally posted by dave73085
I still think her feelings would change for the worse if she knew that HE was the reason her parents died and ABANDONED her. She never got that part in Reckoning.

Abandonment implies her parents left her on purpose which was not the case, just saying died is enough.

Regardless, HE wasn't the REASON for the METEOR shower, rather HE was merely a TRAVELER within it and at the TIME was a helpless INFANT who didn't know what was GOING on.

[xrayvision]

As I said, the real killer of her parents is the killer of Clark's too---Zod. Whether or not Clark was sent to Earth in a ship, those meteors would have still made their way to Earth.

[Jephael]

Right but Clark feels responsible because had he already been of some higher intelligence he could've somehow prevented the death of Lana's parents.

[Lobby4Chloe]

LOL. All I could think when she said that line was "is that good, or bad?" I know I'd be thinking it if I were Clark...

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Jephael
Right but Clark feels responsible because had he already been of some higher intelligence he could've somehow prevented the death of Lana's parents.

:confused:

How? Unless his spaceship had lasers and he knew how to use them, I think this was impossible. Clark will one day soon have to understand he is not to blame for their deaths, but a symbol of hope. He must do this before he can become Superman.

[lana&Clark4ever]

*sigh* clana love....he'll tell her. did you see him look at her like for an hour haha. all teary-eyed.

[vikingjedi]

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Whoops.
BDA did not see that coming.

You know Clark has to be kicking himself about now. All that time he thought she would judge him and they had to go through all that stuff to see that she would never betray him

[Phantazma]

That scene was heartrending. I felt so bad for the both of them. Poor Clark, all this time he feared that Lana would reject him if she knew that he was "different". But he learns far too late that Lana would've loved him just the same. :( Clark's such a fool to have thought that Lana was so shallow to have rejected him for being "different". I always felt that Clark never gave Lana enough credit. Even though Lana still doesn't know the real truth about Clark Kent, at least Clark learned the real truth about Lana Lang ... that she would've accepted the real him if given the chance. All that Clark can do now is to learn from this seriousness error in judgment of human nature. Hopefully, overtime the ache of regret will lessen for the both of them.

It would be nice if Clark and Lana could mend broken bridges and become friends. But now since Lex has his tentacles wrapped tightly around Lana; it will be dangerous for both Clark and Lana to have dealings with each other. :(

[maryjanewatson]

Originally posted by Lobby4Chloe
LOL. All I could think when she said that line was "is that good, or bad?" I know I'd be thinking it if I were Clark...
thats what i was thinking when she said that. did she mean it in a good way, or bad? :\

[Mr.Magic]

Originally posted by Phantazma
That scene was heartrending. I felt so bad for the both of them. Poor Clark, all this time he feared that Lana would reject him if she knew that he was "different". But he learns far too late that Lana would've loved him just the same. :( Clark's such a fool to have thought that Lana was so shallow to have rejected him for being "different". I always felt that Clark never gave Lana enough credit. Even though Lana still doesn't know the real truth about Clark Kent, at least Clark learned the real truth about Lana Lang ... that she would've accepted the real him if given the chance. All that Clark can do now is to learn from this seriousness error in judgment of human nature. Hopefully, overtime the ache of regret will lessen for the both of them.

It would be nice if Clark and Lana could mend broken bridges and become friends. But now since Lex has his tentacles wrapped tightly around Lana; it will be dangerous for both Clark and Lana to have dealings with each other. :(

What are you blabbing on about? Clark has known for over a year that Lana would've accepted him.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by fitmis
This scene was very emotional and "telling" for me....about Lana's feelings for Clark...
Nothing new. She has told him before, remember???

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

She said things to that effect a bunch of times.
Though at this stage perhaps it means more, considering how close Clark may think she is.

[svfan50]

I think the scene was very warming...!!! Lana should know the truth by the end of this season most probably..or either by the 3-4th episode of the next season....remember...in the comic...Lana is one of the charecters who knows Superman's identity...and keeps it safe to herself..!!

[DeesRyche]

It's interesting that everyone also thinks that it's Lana would change the way she feels about Clark but I think in reckoning is that Clark saw Lana die as result of knowing his secret that held him back from telling her.

And I am no Clana'er either, I just want thier ship to end in a way that at least allows Clark to throw away his baggage from the mess that TPTB have made of the Clana story.

Yes Lana does find out the secret and yes she keeps it to herself but she will spend her life pining for soemone who long gets over her. It be nice to see Smallville gives these two closure and move it away from "Will they, won't they....?"

[Mr.Magic]

Originally posted by DeesRyche
It's interesting that everyone also thinks that it's Lana would change the way she feels about Clark but I think in reckoning is that Clark saw Lana die as result of knowing his secret that held him back from telling her.

And I am no Clana'er either, I just want thier ship to end in a way that at least allows Clark to throw away his baggage from the mess that TPTB have made of the Clana story.

Yes Lana does find out the secret and yes she keeps it to herself but she will spend her life pining for soemone who long gets over her. It be nice to see Smallville gives these two closure and move it away from "Will they, won't they....?"

Maybe Reckoning was foreshadowing and she will finally die when she figures it out... because Lex chases her in front of a speeding car ranting: "Tell me his secret, wife!". Maybe even with some foam around his mouth for emphasis.

That last comment made no sense to me. Clark and Lana already did it, so no more will they. If at all it could be "Will they or won't they... again?" But if AlMiles dare to do that I'll find them and force them to watch all Smallville episodes in a row, over and over... again.

@svfan50
Comic Lana didn't even tell Lex in a torture session. Now there is something I'd like to see on Smallville, let's start with the pliers.

[A MAN OF REASON!]

Originally posted by DeesRyche
It's interesting that everyone also thinks that it's Lana would change the way she feels about Clark but I think in reckoning is that Clark saw Lana die as result of knowing his secret that held him back from telling her.

And I am no Clana'er either, I just want thier ship to end in a way that at least allows Clark to throw away his baggage from the mess that TPTB have made of the Clana story.

Yes Lana does find out the secret and yes she keeps it to herself but she will spend her life pining for soemone who long gets over her. It be nice to see Smallville gives these two closure and move it away from "Will they, won't they....?"


I agree with you on that subject. A lot of people forget that Lana is Clark's 1st true love,and technically, they've already been a couple. So there's no reason to try and go back to the whole Clana thing. That moment just shows that without actually saying it, they've come to a mutual agreement with one another. She knows about Clark now,the only thing that's left is for him to come out and tell her who he really is. And when he tells her, she'll be both happy and relieved at the same time. They won't be anything more than good friends though,because at this point they'll both realize that their moment together has past,and it's best that they go their separate ways(sounds like a season finale to me!). :lol:

[meteor_phreak]

Originally posted by SteveS
Too bad that Lana is so emotionally unstable and volatile, her statement was sweet, but you can never tell when she is going to do an instanteous reversal on you or Clark, plus she is sleeping with the enemy.

Too bad, but she can be told the truth or trusted. It is a tragedy. seems to me, though, that writers are recently(within the past couple episodes) making a concerted effort to fix this inconsistency. I thought the line was well played, because it was getting back to the lana from reckoning and before, who at least always seemed to play with the cards she was given even if wrong and annoying. the lana from vessel, etc. wasn't realistic, imo.

and i agree that this is about moving forward, not redoing the past.

[ScottM1956]

Originally posted by dave73085
I still think her feelings would change for the worse if she knew that HE was the reason her parents died and ABANDONED her. She never got that part in Reckoning.

Clark is not the REASON why her parents died. It was the meteorites that killed them. Actually it was ZOD!


Originally posted by xrayvision
Once she finds out, I think she will also find out that Zod is the true person who killed both Clark's parents (and his race) and Lana's too. It all stems down to how Jor-El said that Zod was behind Krypton's destruction.

How true this is

[ShelbyKent]

Lana sounded very mature and forgiving when she uttered that line. TClark's reaction (still keeping mum about his secret), was expected, though. So many things have already happened and she's marrying his mortal enemy. What could he do? That was actually a bittersweet moment. This is a landmark for me: non-annoying clana interaction. Well done on the part of TptB.

[khol145]

True that...But i think she would eventually forgive him because it was his fault that his parents send him to earth...

[Peat Moss]

Once she finds out, I think she will also find out that Zod is the true person who killed both Clark's parents (and his race) and Lana's too. It all stems down to how Jor-El said that Zod was behind Krypton's destruction.
When she met Zod in Lex's body, I wanted him to explain to her, "Why yes, I destroyed an entire race of billions of people and caused a meteor shower than killed two people."
And she'd be like, "You killed my parents?"

[Dor el]

Originally posted by xrayvision
As I said, the real killer of her parents is the killer of Clark's too---Zod. Whether or not Clark was sent to Earth in a ship, those meteors would have still made their way to Earth.

Thank you so much for this statement! Clark is not responsible for Lana's parents' death. They were hit by a meteor! They just stood there and watched it come toward them. How pretty it must have been! Krypton exploded. Those resulting meteors would have arrived on earth whether or not Clark was among them. Clark did NOT cause Krypton to explode. (Tears hair out.)Clark and the meteors were coincidental not consequential.


Originally posted by Jephael
Right but Clark feels responsible because had he already been of some higher intelligence he could've somehow prevented the death of Lana's parents.

He feels guilty because it seems to be his nature to feel guilty whenever possible. Regardless of any real guit. It seems to be easier for him to assume guilt than to articulate the truth. He KNOWS he did not cause her parents' death and he should know that there was no way for him to have prevented their deaths. Spit happpens. He needs to learn to deal with it.

And....Lana needs to learn to deal with some stuff too. there isn't always someone to blame. Sometimes things just happen and we need to make the best of it.

[Mischael12]

Clark's Guilt stems from his knowing his abilities--moments like that help show him humility.

Remember in the Superman Movies when his dad died--his response was with all my powers I couldn't save him.

I think things like that aren't guilt but more of falling off his high horse--and if things like that didn't occur then Clark would be one pretty cocky arrogant ahole--like he is on red-k.

[dunkman]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
When she met Zod in Lex's body, I wanted him to explain to her, "Why yes, I destroyed an entire race of billions of people and caused a meteor shower than killed two people."
And she'd be like, "You killed my parents?"
Yeah, she is kind of self-focused that way. She gets all upset that Clark doesn't tell her everything about himself, but she kept her being possessed by a witch a secret & didn't feel too bad about it.
She goes through her annoying phases, but I do think we can trust her to keep Clark's origin a secret when she figures it out.
I think Clark understands that he's not responsible for Lana's parents' death, but it's kind of a trait of being a superhero to feel guilty when you can't save everybody; that's why Batman's so grumpy all the time.

[last man of krypton]

"Even if you were meteor infected...you would be the same Clark Kent..." - then why is she so insistent on snooping into his life if it would make no difference one way or the other?
"Clark, after months of digging, I've discovered you're an alien."
"So what now?"
"My next project is to learn the piano. See you around."

Better yet, what if Clark was neither an alien or meteor-infected, but was just an ordinary guy who just happened to keep stumbling into situations involving Lana that always managed to resolve themselves? Has Lana ever considered that she might be the freak, with the ability to make a situation work to her favour (a la Scarlet Witch)?

End of rant.

[Mr.Magic]

Originally posted by dunkman
Yeah, she is kind of self-focused that way. She gets all upset that Clark doesn't tell her everything about himself, but she kept her being possessed by a witch a secret & didn't feel too bad about it.
She goes through her annoying phases, but I do think we can trust her to keep Clark's origin a secret when she figures it out.
I think Clark understands that he's not responsible for Lana's parents' death, but it's kind of a trait of being a superhero to feel guilty when you can't save everybody; that's why Batman's so grumpy all the time.

And here I thought Batman was grumpy because he had to pretend to be Bruce Wayne all day long.

[super.chrissy]

Originally posted by vikingjedi
You know Clark has to be kicking himself about now. All that time he thought she would judge him and they had to go through all that stuff to see that she would never betray him

Exactly what I thought when Clark looked at Lana the way that he did. He's kicking himself now :(

[Wendell]

But Clark did eventually tell Lana... and it got her killed. His lack of trusting her was no longer the issue - it's that she is in danger if she knows his secret. And now she's even closer to Lex and may be in even more danger. Should be interesting...

[boingo]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
"Even if you were meteor infected...you would be the same Clark Kent..." - then why is she so insistent on snooping into his life if it would make no difference one way or the other?
"Clark, after months of digging, I've discovered you're an alien."
"So what now?"
...

I believe that Lana "trying" to unravel the "mystery of Clark Kent" has a lot more to do with HER own piece of mind than Clark....she wants answers to the questions that have been plaguing her and her relationship with Clark...to know the "why" he stopped sleeping with her...the "why" he acts one way one day and completely different the next (Red K)...why he ended the relationship and yet he he "still" there "watching over her"...and so on...especially since Clark isn't giving her any explanation whatsoever....

I don't blame her one bit for being tired of remaining in the dark and wanting to find the answers herself....I know I would....of not thinking something is wrong with "me" my "body" my "self" because having your boyfriend suddenly stop being intimate to the point that he doesn't even want to kiss you well that is a blow to a girl's self-esteem lol Especially when a former boyfriend didn't want to sleep with you either (Jason)...although it was for different circumstances/reasoning...SHE doesn't know that.....

[silverstreak]

she wants him to know that she still cares & loves him.

[SonofZod]

I say this is another continuity flaw. In season 5 when clark revealed his secret to her when he proposed, she went all weird and ended up dead. So why is she now saying she would still consider him to be the same person

[freefall]

In Lana's defense, she took it pretty well and not to mention Clark immediately went overboard with the whole marriage proposal thing. Why couldn't he just say to her he didn't want to lie to her anymore? That should be enough.

That proposal was out of fear and was very unfair to Lana. Clark was giving her an ultimatum there, it's like saying if you don't accept this proposal it automatically means you don't accept me being different i.e. an alien from another planet.

She was extremely foolish for leaving the election victory party and going to Lex instead, but that doesn't constitute her as a bad person at all. I'd even go as far as saying that if there was no accident and Lex managed to get hold of Lana to pry out Clark's secret from her, she'd still protect him with her life.

[last man of krypton]

Originally posted by boingo
I believe that Lana "trying" to unravel the "mystery of Clark Kent" has a lot more to do with HER own piece of mind than Clark....she wants answers to the questions that have been plaguing her and her relationship with Clark...to know the "why" he stopped sleeping with her...the "why" he acts one way one day and completely different the next (Red K)...why he ended the relationship and yet he he "still" there "watching over her"...and so on...especially since Clark isn't giving her any explanation whatsoever....

If finding out the truth about Clark is for her own piece of mind, then that's fine, I have no problem with that. But when she said that "even if you were..." line, she made it sound as though she wanted Clark to tell her the truth for his well-being as opposed to hers.

[darkone]

It was a great moment.And there IS a difference between Extinction and Freak.Lana isnt speculating anymore she actually knows he's special and Clark knows that.Nice progression for the Clana. :)

[A Green Arrow]

I don't rekon they'll bring up how he caused her parents to die.

[freefall]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
If finding out the truth about Clark is for her own piece of mind, then that's fine, I have no problem with that. But when she said that "even if you were..." line, she made it sound as though she wanted Clark to tell her the truth for his well-being as opposed to hers.

I think Lana said that line for both of their sakes. Both of them has hurt each other for years just because Clark couldn't bring himself to tell the truth about him. There's already too much water under the bridge with her and Clark, and if she finally got to know the secret, at least it would give both of them a chance to start on a clean slate, and become good friends.

Though I don't know if Clark tells her the secret, he'd tell it along with the fact that he's not just an alien from another planet, but also the alien who came in the meteor shower that killed her parents. He didn't tell Lana that in Reckoning, and she simply assumed Clark came to Earth normally.

This would be a very major issue and this is also one of the reasons why Clark has never been able to tell her, not only because he's afraid he'd be putting her in danger, but he's afraid Lana wouldn't accept him if she knew he was indirectly responsible for her parents' death, as addressed in the Scare episode in S4 itself, as Clark's greatest nightmare.

[kevy]

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[Somnium]

I'm for one happy that the writer actually developed Lana and made her consistend for the last few episodes, only if they continue this Lana character might be redeemed.

[Peat Moss]

Originally posted by A Green Arrow
I don't rekon they'll bring up how he caused her parents to die.
If I hear that one more time....
He was not even indirectly responsible. He had nothing to do with it. Even as a grown superhero he probably couldn't have stopped the meteor shower. Maybe he could have saved her parents, but only if he singled them out specially.
Saying Clark is at all involved with the Lang's deaths is like saying someone who was in their basement during a tornado is responsible for the death of someone the tornado killed a mile away.

[Dor el]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
If I hear that one more time....
He was not even indirectly responsible. He had nothing to do with it.
Saying Clark is at all involved with the Lang's deaths is like saying someone who was in their basement during a tornado is responsible for the death of someone the tornado killed a mile away.

True. He is neither directly nor indirectly responsible for their deaths. For all Jor el knew, Clark might have been killed or lost during his trek across space. Jor el was a brillian scientist, but God he was not. There could have been any number of things that might have happened to baby Clark.

The Langs' deaths were tragic, but Clark didn't have anything to do with them. The fact that he arrived when the meteors did demonstrates the trajectory of the exploding planet and Clark's ship were similar.

An adult Superman might have been able to do something like blow the meteors back into space, but here again it wasn't Clark's fault that he was only a baby.

[freefall]

Well, I think it all comes down to individual perception. There has never been a version of Superman who existed at the expense of so many people suffering. That's why I'd say he's still indirectly responsible, although I understand the need for this meteor shower premise on the show, especially with all those stuff regarding the meteor freaks.

He definitely hasn't got anything to do or was involved the Lana's parents deaths (or anyone else for that matter) in the meteor shower, but that's what has been plaguing him since forever. He's the one who still cannot come to terms with that. And all his problems with Lana stems from that self-imposed guilt.


Originally posted by Dor el

Jor el was a brillian scientist, but God he was not.


Jor-El's God enough to be so certain that it would be the Kents themselves who'd find him after his spaceship landed on Earth, as implied in Relic. How would he know it wouldn't be Lionel who'd came upon Clark instead? Not to mention all that destiny stuff he kept feeding into Clark for five whole years. How would he know Clark would even survive the space trek anyway, like your post itself have pointed out?

[Dor el]

Originally posted by seacrystal
He definitely hasn't got anything to do or was involved the Lana's parents deaths (or anyone else for that matter) in the meteor shower, but that's what has been plaguing him since forever. He's the one who still cannot come to terms with that. And all his problems with Lana stems from that self-imposed guilt.

Agreed.


Originally posted by seacrystal
Jor-El's God enough to be so certain that it would be the Kents themselves who'd find him after his spaceship landed on Earth, as implied in Relic. How would he know it wouldn't be Lionel who'd came upon Clark instead? Not to mention all that destiny stuff he kept feeding into Clark for five whole years. How would he know Clark would even survive the space trek anyway, like your post itself have pointed out?

Jor el planned for the Kents to get Clark, but he had no way of being certain that that would happen. Fortunately, that part of his plan worked out. However, I sincerely believe that if Jor el had known that so many lives would have been so damaged, that he would have altered his plan to protect people. After all, to help save humanity is one of Jor el's stated reasons for sending them Clark, his only son. Of course, saving Clark was a huge part of his motivation as well.Jor el was not God.

[meteor_phreak]

Originally posted by seacrystal
Well, I think it all comes down to individual perception. There has never been a version of Superman who existed at the expense of so many people suffering. That's why I'd say he's still indirectly responsible, although I understand the need for this meteor shower premise on the show, especially with all those stuff regarding the meteor freaks.
there is no cause and effect for your meteor shower relationship here. he didn't exist at the expense of the people suffering. the two things merely happened at the same time.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Clark doesn't confess to anyone unless they have powers like him or they accidently find something big like Pete did.

So long as Lana is with Lex she can't be trusted pure and simple. Hell she can't be trusted at all, she's weak and talks too much.

[freefall]

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
there is no cause and effect for your meteor shower relationship here. he didn't exist at the expense of the people suffering. the two things merely happened at the same time.

The meteor showers and his coming to Earth were only coincidences that merely happened at the same time? I don't think so. They have shown it very clearly that the first meteor shower is definitely because his coming to Smallville. As per Chloe's own excited rant in Commencement, "two meteor showers in 16 years, like there's a bullseye on it!". No doubt the bullseye is Clark Kent himself.

Not to mention the second meteor shower also draws parallel to the first one, with even a larger spaceship this time. Also, both meteor showers only stopped after they've "accomplished" their missions, Clark's spaceship landed and he was safe and sound, and Clark finally uniting the stones and got transported to the Arctic to build the FOS.


Originally posted by Dor el
Jor el planned for the Kents to get Clark, but he had no way of being certain that that would happen. Fortunately, that part of his plan worked out. However, I sincerely believe that if Jor el had known that so many lives would have been so damaged, that he would have altered his plan to protect people. After all, to help save humanity is one of Jor el's stated reasons for sending them Clark, his only son. Of course, saving Clark was a huge part of his motivation as well.Jor el was not God.

Actually, Jor-El's motivation in sending off his son is only to save him from exploding along with Krypton. I've always wondered since when this whole "saving the world destiny" comes into the equation. Let's say Krypton was never destroyed, would he still send his only son to "save humanity"? He's definitely playing God here.

That's why I find Raya's claims of Jor-El's only redemption for sending Clark is to save us from destruction are absolute BS. Clark seemed to fall so easily into that trap as well. I'm glad that he finally accepted the Kryptonian side of him, but I still wanted him to make his own choices WRT to helping the world, not simply because Jor-El and Raya told him that.

[Peat Moss]

If you go with SV Jor-el, then he was doing it so Clark would conquer Earth. But if you go with the Jor-el from the movies, and the image they've been trying to bring back the last two seasons, Jor-el wanted to save Earth from its own corruption, with Clark.
And if Clark hadn't gone to earth, who knows what would have happened to the debris? it had to go somewhere, and Superman mythology seems to indicate that many planets in this universe are inhabited.
The second one, really, was Lana's fault. Jor-el claimed it was because Clark took too long uniting the stones. But he said that blood on the stone attracted the shower, probably by attracting the ship. Lana got the blood onto the stone. Yes, it was while possessed, but that means she should have at least as much guilt as Clark does.

[freefall]

There's always the possibility that Clark could misinterpret the message on the ship in S2, Jonathan himself had pointed that out to him.

The issue is not about how long or how short Clark took his time to unite the stones, it was about him not making any effort at all to search for the two remaining stones after Sacred.

[Angelina2809]

I think that Lana ment what she said and after Clark's look on his face.... you saw that he was surprised. Laa told him in season 3 before that it would not changea thing and also in reckorning but maybe Clark's fears wered too strong to tell her or believe her!
Lana smiled at him and he just stand there and didn't said a word after Lana told him these words.
So Clark will tell her or he will not stop Lana to find it out by herself!
But it was a sweet and emotial moment and I loved this scene!!!!
I want more of it!!!!
And before Lana camed to Clark Tobias told Clark that Lana wanted to protect him and Clark was thankful for Lana's help and kindness!!!!

[ghost101]

I thought the point of the meteor shower was to disguise the entry of the ship..

I dont think its supposed to be anything like in Superman Returns which seemed to show it as a coincidence.

[greysfan511]

ok, clark is not a metor freak, hes an alien. so the tables would be turned. and if lana new this about clark i think she would still be accepting but it would be harder to contemplate. i dont necassarly think that lana will blame clark for her parents deaths, she might not even put two and two together. i feel lana and clarks story with the whole "secret" thing is getting old. she has pinned and practically begged him over the years to let her in, and frankly he should just tell her. hes worried that she might not like him anymore, but if he really loves her isnt that enough to that risk. clark needs to grow up and just let her in. if it wasnt for alichia , clark most likely wouldnt have told chloe. and pete found out accidently. if clark really trusts lana , then show it.

[Wendell]

Again, Clark DID tell Lana and she died. The reason that he's not telling her now is that he's trying to protect her, not because he doesn't trust her.

[Gaussian]

I always thought that the ship had some kind of magnetism that attracted the metoers to follow it to earth.

Jor-el could not have known that the ship would have this consquence......but the meoters would have gone out into space otherwise. That's still not Clark's fault directly.

[Mischael12]

Here's the thing though, when Krypton exploded, the meteors didn't all go in one direction, so its very possible that there were other places hit by meteors, which would explain why Lex could get a hold of some from places outside of smallville.

SV does mess up a lot in the superman mythos though, like Kryptonite, which was formed due to the radiation of Krypton exploding, yet we have it in that episode when they go to china.

The ship has no magnetism, but the meteors are perfect cover, meteors enter the earth's atmosphere quite a bit if i remember correctly, but they are usually small enough that they burn out, and personally the Langs had it coming.

I mean huge rock is coming from the sky--who stands there and watch, notice how when they got hit not a single one of them made a move....

[greysfan511]

ok, she dies cause of lex not cause clark told lana hs secret. she dies cause lex's curiosity got the best of him. i never said that clark doesnt trust lana i said that since he does why not just tell her already. this story line is getting old, either have lana drop it, or have clark tell her. if the show's trying to build suspense, its not working, its boreing. this storyline has existed for the whole time smallville has been on, and its getting old. lana practically begging clark to tell her is so useless. it making me mad. here's lana begging the man she supposidly once loved and clark still loves her and he still wont tell her. what does she have to do to get the truth. go find someone close to clark that knows his secret, get them mad or upset with him, then have them fake a broken car so clark can come save them and catch the car like a beachball then run off, in superspeed, then have lana get accidently transported to the fortress and almost freeze to death, and have clark save her, then clakr will tell her? season six has been great, but lana being all "investigative reporter" needs to end.

[Peat Moss]

Really? I always thought Krypton was MADE of kryptonite, but only hurt Kryptonians under a yellow sun. I guess that's what they're going with for SV.

[Wendell]

Originally posted by greysfan511
ok, she dies cause of lex not cause clark told lana hs secret. she dies cause lex's curiosity got the best of him. i never said that clark doesnt trust lana i said that since he does why not just tell her already. this story line is getting old, either have lana drop it, or have clark tell her. if the show's trying to build suspense, its not working, its boreing. this storyline has existed for the whole time smallville has been on, and its getting old. lana practically begging clark to tell her is so useless. it making me mad. here's lana begging the man she supposidly once loved and clark still loves her and he still wont tell her. what does she have to do to get the truth.

It's gone beyond that now. Lana is no longer begging Clark - she has come to understand why he's not telling her. This is new territory for the show and it's a good thing. Lana may not know the details yet, but she gets the general idea now and seems much more at peace about it. Sure, she still would like Clark to tell her, but she no longer seems to expect him to.

As far as the distinction about why Lana died, the point is it started with Lana knowing the secret, which resulted in trouble from Lex. From that perspective, Clark has even less reason to tell her now because she is closer to Lex than ever before.

[Peat Moss]

Like with most superheros, knowing the secret results in danger, whether from Lex or someone else. It was kind of fristrating that she got in the accident anyway, but the point is that it puts her in danger, which Clark is unwilling to do.

[mtnmama236]

In "Reckoning" Lana found out Clark's secret, but it wasn't just knowing Clark's secret that killed her, it was trying to keep it from Lex. Remember the scene at the mansion?

Clark knew that Lana was protecting his secret from Lex. If he wouldn't tell her then, both to keep her alive AND protect her/and his secret from Lex--he sure won't tell her now!

Lana is very close to figuring it out, though. If she does, I don't think either Clark or Chloe will tell her anything. I think she'll just figure it out. Martha might inadvertantly give something away, though.

[magoo]

Originally posted by fitmis
This scene was very emotional and "telling" for me....about Lana's feelings for Clark...

lol you could almost hear him thinking "DOH!"

Anyway she says that now but I don't think she ever really was ready to know, and maybe she isn't even ready now?

[greysfan511]

Originally posted by Wendell
It's gone beyond that now. Lana is no longer begging Clark - she has come to understand why he's not telling her. This is new territory for the show and it's a good thing. Lana may not know the details yet, but she gets the general idea now and seems much more at peace about it. Sure, she still would like Clark to tell her, but she no longer seems to expect him to.

As far as the distinction about why Lana died, the point is it started with Lana knowing the secret, which resulted in trouble from Lex. From that perspective, Clark has even less reason to tell her now because she is closer to Lex than ever before.


ok for one i didnt say that shes begging him now i said that she was. and its getting old. i know why clark wont tell her you dont need to spell it out for me. shes closer to lex, but that doesnt necassarly mean that she'll tell lex. theres been a number of things this season that lana kept from lex. and when it comes to clark, you can really say that you think that lana will betray him? she knows what lex is involved with and knows he takes a keen intrest in metor freaks and all things abnormal, so why would she go and betray clarks trust when he finally lets her in? i dont care how much she says she loves lex, she will always be more loyal to clark. i truly think that if clark tells lana his secret, which he probebly wont, lana will stay true to him, no matter how much lex prys and asks her to tell him.

[Wendell]

Nope, never said Lana would betray Clark. That was never the point. The point was simply that Lana knowing the truth would put her in danger.

[greysfan511]

Originally posted by Wendell
Nope, never said Lana would betray Clark. That was never the point. The point was simply that Lana knowing the truth would put her in danger.



ok, ya maybe it would put her in danger. but what could really happen, lex isnt gonna get drunk, isnt gonna chase her down in her car, and cause a tragic accident. the tables have turned so much since reckoning and what could really happen to her, besides a threating message from lex, which since he loves her and wanst her trust would most likely not hurt her. but maybe im wrong and he would. your right about lana being put in danger, chloe is now that she knows his secret. but have you ever thought that lana might be willing to take that risk like chloe was?

[Phantazma]

Reckoning ... *still :mad: @ the death of Jonathan Kent*

Anyways, I considered the part where Clark told Lana his secret and then proposed to her to be an alternate possible reality. (Seriously, did anybody really think that TPTB were going to kill Lana Lang?!) That "reality" was too dreamlike. So I didn't consider what happened in the original timeline of Reckoning to be canon for the show's main reality. Ah well ... the tête-à-tête between Clark and Lana in Freak took place in the main reality. Hopefully, that won't somehow be undone.