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chlarkfan333

02-15-2007, 01:01 PM

Talk all you want about Chlark here! Was it everything you expected to see or were you disappointed?

svfan50

02-15-2007, 01:07 PM

Chlarkfan.......i haven't seen the episode yet!!! But looking at your threads....looks like it would be dissappointing......

chlarkfan333

02-15-2007, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by svfan50
Chlarkfan.......i haven't seen the episode yet!!! But looking at your threads....looks like it would be dissappointing......

The episode hasn't aired yet!

Rhoda123

02-15-2007, 02:07 PM

I'm going to be optimistic and think good Chlark thoughts!!!!

redraven

02-15-2007, 02:32 PM

I voted for the last option. :D

thmallville

02-15-2007, 02:38 PM

CLANA!

BeldarofRemulak

02-15-2007, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by thmallville
CLANA!

Yeah I know that ship stinks....;)

TheRealClarkKent

02-15-2007, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by thmallville
CLANA!

*drops to knees like in S4 Episode Pariah*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

*gets up and dusts dirt off*

Chlark please.

Ilovebeinglost

02-15-2007, 02:49 PM

what dim wits are voting when the show isn't even on yet

chlarkfan333

02-15-2007, 03:32 PM

I am not sure what people are basing their votes on at this point, when the episode hasn't even aired and therefore expectations have yet to be met/dashed.:confused:

aqgalaxy

02-15-2007, 04:04 PM

Chlark!

And I am done :)

KEakaCK

02-15-2007, 04:17 PM

CLOIS

jimmyolsenblues

02-15-2007, 05:29 PM

Let me remind you of

Rule 21) NO FAN CAMP THREADS ALLOWED. A fan camp thread is when fans on the site set up a love or hate thread for a character or ship for the sole purpose of gathering like-minded fans, and by implication, the exclusion of differently-minded fans. This board is here to facilitate discussions, not setting up warring camps between fans. If you start a thread like this, it'll either be closed or renamed to a more neutral topic.

This is a warning. Please no fighting among the shippers. We can all get along and we call all use the board. Or the Thread will be deleted.

shansgrl

02-15-2007, 06:59 PM

Oh my gosh!

Great, great Chlark episode!

thehenry89

02-15-2007, 07:01 PM

couldn't care less

Ms. Mack

02-15-2007, 07:01 PM

The last moment with both of them was great!

'Consider me your own personal bomb squad.' -- oh it made me squeal.

Runestone

02-15-2007, 07:02 PM

"I'm a walking time bomb."

"Then consider me your own personal bombsquad."

Something like that. It was sweet.

jimmyolsenblues

02-15-2007, 07:02 PM

I enjoyed clark saying "Consider me your own personal bomb squad" and the affection.
Chloe was truly scared and clark helped her.
It was a great moment.

shansgrl

02-15-2007, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
I enjoyed clark saying "Consider me your own personal bomb squad" and the affection.
Chloe was truly scared and clark helped her.
It was a great moment.

I got chills several times during the episode with those two. That was one of them.

shirkie

02-15-2007, 07:08 PM

OMG when he put his hand on her arm..... Ohhhhhhhh Chlarky goodness!
shirkie

Krypto/DQ/

02-15-2007, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by shirkie
OMG when he put his hand on her arm..... Ohhhhhhhh Chlarky goodness!
shirkie

I gotta say Iw as surprised. Didn't expect that one though. Was a beatiful Chlark moment. IMO, that was more than friendly feelings.

Maryliz48

02-15-2007, 07:11 PM

Awwww :lol: I loved Clark grabbing her arm at the end "personal bombsquad! Sooo cute!

And hilarious how he was all akward to X ray her :lol:

nipvillesmlltuk

02-15-2007, 07:11 PM

Yes...I looooved the close up of his hand touching her arm...hmmmm, I wonder why they focused on that shot specifically????

TheRealClarkKent

02-15-2007, 07:12 PM

CHLARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a great episode, not only to it completely show Jimmy Olsen's utter USELESSNESS to both Chloe and the overall plotline, but it showed Clark and Chloe, together, fighting crime, helping others while at the same time helping each other. It's only them. It's only Chlark guys.

Ms. Mack

02-15-2007, 07:13 PM

I'm thinking this was part of MR's directing. Either it meant something to him or it's just his way of directing. It was still great.

STFanatic

02-15-2007, 07:14 PM

And Mack can roll out the tears big time.
Kudos!

Krypto/DQ/

02-15-2007, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by nipvillesmlltuk
Yes...I looooved the close up of his hand touching her arm...hmmmm, I wonder why they focused on that shot specifically????

I wonder that too. :)

nanook7112

02-15-2007, 07:14 PM

OMG the chlark this episode was awesome. Clark really was scared for chloe and comforted her. Totally did not see this much chlark coming. I loved it! Go chlark!!

nipvillesmlltuk

02-15-2007, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
I wonder that too. :)

It was almost slow motion. Like someone mentioned..I almost expected a kiss. The feeling of that scene was a bit different, almost like a sign...yeah, that's it!! Something was definitely there with that shot:)

Lostfan588

02-15-2007, 07:19 PM

BEST....CHLARK.........EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!:p

Mackdaddy

02-15-2007, 07:23 PM

Great Chlarkness tonight! The end was awsome:p Come on now Clark! Time to step up to the plate!

aqgalaxy

02-15-2007, 07:25 PM

Aww that scene at the end was SOOOOO sweet...

skywalker28

02-15-2007, 07:26 PM

What a Chlark tease:p

Lostfan588

02-15-2007, 07:30 PM

CHLARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lana better watch out! :D

Krypto/DQ/

02-15-2007, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by nipvillesmlltuk
It was almost slow motion. Like someone mentioned..I almost expected a kiss. The feeling of that scene was a bit different, almost like a sign...yeah, that's it!! Something was definitely there with that shot:)

I felt EXACTLY the same thing! Was a bit like the last Chlark scene in Labyrinth....:)

meggy

02-15-2007, 07:31 PM

dam,...i'm still shaking bc of that episode...and yes, AM can really dish out the tears...that scene was a Smallville moment in history....excellent

TheRealClarkKent

02-15-2007, 07:33 PM

Yea they really did it good with both Chlark (thank god) and Clana (not good). It seems both are progressing toward Clark. But the question we have to ask is twofold:
1) Who is available?
2) Who is attractive, smart, intelligent, blonde and awesome?

SuperWood

02-15-2007, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by TheRealClarkKent
Yea they really did it good with both Chlark (thank god) and Clana (not good). It seems both are progressing toward Clark. But the question we have to ask is twofold:
1) Who is available?
2) Who is attractive, smart, intelligent, blonde and awesome?

HAHA! Awesome.
Come on...we can all smell it coming.
There's going to be a moment of decision.
Soon, Lana and Lex will be no more. And I get the feeling that Jimmy and Chloe will be no more around the same time.
Clark will have to make a choice. But I really can't tell what its going to be. I'm hoping sooooo much for Chlark.
And I don't think Superman would take Lex Luthor's sloppy seconds :^P

I think there totally would have been a kiss if Chloe and Jimmy hadn't gotten back together.

Lostfan588

02-15-2007, 07:40 PM

:lol: I luv the scene when Jimmys posting up Chloes pic and telling Clark how about what if he had this girl he cared about all along but "I was so busy playing it cool, I never got the chance to tell her how I felt."

And Chloe pops up behind them out of nowhere...."Now's your chance."

And Clark whirls around with this strange look on his face mouthing like he got sumthing to say...

And Jimmy runs in the way :rotfl:

thehenry89

02-15-2007, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by TheRealClarkKent

1) Who is available?

...not chloe!!!

aqgalaxy

02-15-2007, 07:44 PM

Lostfan588

02-15-2007, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by thehenry89
...not chloe!!!

Soon to be....oh soon to be!!!!!!! Let him suffer a little first knowing shes got another guy interested in her too:D

aqgalaxy

02-15-2007, 07:45 PM

Hey... Chloe also gave a reason for why Clark would be a wedding, how it represent... him moving on...

thehenry89

02-15-2007, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Lostfan588
Soon to be....oh soon to be!!!!!!! Let him suffer a little first knowing shes got another guy interested in her too:D

the only suffering clarks doing is over lana.

Lostfan588

02-15-2007, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
What I found interesting is this girl was abducted and her boyfriend was worried... you think they were going to kiss at least once?

Also note the scene where she was talking on the phone before meeting Lana in the Talon She says at the end "I like you too' Not love but Like...

:lol: YOURE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHH BEHOLD THE CHLARK!!!!!!! It'll be here soon enough. But soon Clarks gonna be faced with the decision btw the two girls after Lexana breaks (I see Lana going good again) j like seasons one and two.....And this time around, hell yeah he'll make the right decision!!!!!!!!:rotfl:

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Hey... Chloe also gave a reason for why Clark would be a wedding, how it represent... him moving on...

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...that will be a very important moment for Clark when he learns to..."Let go!"

Rachel B

02-15-2007, 07:49 PM

After the last two crappy weeks, I was soooo ready for Chlark time, and boy did they deliver. I'm still smiling, I loved the Chlark scene at the end.

Although I did grimace thru the Clana scenes, I was so greedy for Chlark that I wantd to rush right thru the Clana.

D.M.A.

02-15-2007, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
I enjoyed clark saying "Consider me your own personal bomb squad" and the affection.
Chloe was truly scared and clark helped her.
It was a great moment.
I agree,that last DP scene was great if clark wants to prove he meant his words in Lab he got his chance tonight.And will again soon :D ,but chlark was definitely great tonight

aqgalaxy

02-15-2007, 08:00 PM

No to me the Clana scenes are showing the build up for a good friendship...

Lostfan588

02-15-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
No to me the Clana scenes are showing the build up for a good friendship...

AND Lana coming back pining for Clark, only to find out he's moved on....to.....dun dun dun CHLARK!!!!!!!! :D Chloe was right, going to the wedding will be a time for him to learn to let go :)

D.M.A.

02-15-2007, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Maryliz48
Awwww :lol: I loved Clark grabbing her arm at the end "personal bombsquad! Sooo cute!

And hilarious how he was all akward to X ray her :lol:
yea their both adults :lol:

I swear the moment he find out she was missin and jimmy started suggestin she might be gone forever he looked like he had tears in his eyez.And 2 see her grab the knife and stand there in tears smh,she was scared and so was clark u could tell he wanted to panic along wit jimmy but jus refuse to believe she was gone.Great chlark scenes tonight

Lostfan588

02-15-2007, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by D.M.A.
yea their both adults :lol:

I swear the moment he find out she was missin and jimmy started suggestin she might be gone forever he looked like he had tears in his eyez.And 2 see her grab the knife and stand there in tears smh,she was scared and so was clark u could tell he wanted to panic along wit jimmy but jus refuse to believe she was gone.Great chlark scenes tonight

Oh! :lol: I saw that toooo!!!!!!!! And the scene...when Jimmy walks in and Clarks all.....cleaning the wound, for a second i thought.... oh nevermind heehee....and Jimmys like wth did you do to my girlfriend!!!!!!!!!:rotfl:

thehenry89

02-15-2007, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Lostfan588
and Jimmys like wth did you do to my girlfriend!!!!!!!!!:rotfl:

he thought he hurt her.

D.M.A.

02-15-2007, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by SuperWood
HAHA! Awesome.
Come on...we can all smell it coming.
There's going to be a moment of decision.
Soon, Lana and Lex will be no more. And I get the feeling that Jimmy and Chloe will be no more around the same time.
Clark will have to make a choice. But I really can't tell what its going to be. I'm hoping sooooo much for Chlark.
And I don't think Superman would take Lex Luthor's sloppy seconds :^P

I think there totally would have been a kiss if Chloe and Jimmy hadn't gotten back together.
I agree,its all about choices/decisions...Both chlark/clana were good tonight I actually didn't mind the lil bit of clana,it was more so about his secret/her trust than anythin but it was good.And clarks worries of chloe stood out imo,his reactions to x-rayin her/her bein a meteor freak and possibly dyin/hearin jimmy say he(possibly they meanin both boyz)have been playin it safe and might not get a chance to tell her their feelings etc...Its obvious as u say that they r playin up both girls wit clark havin mixed feelings,and I 2 see both girls seperatin from their boyfriends around the same time makin it an even choice.But havin lana learn the secret yet try to protect him(As she says in the epi)and havin chloe bond wit clark as well shows they r playin up both girls wit clark.And I do expect by the end of the season for him to make a decision like s2 between them,but after tonight i'm leanin towards him pickin the blonde bestfriend :D

Originally posted by thehenry89
...not chloe!!!
Or lana at the moment either,but dont count tptb out on havin both girls single at the same time :rolleyes:

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
What I found interesting is this girl was abducted and her boyfriend was worried... you think they were going to kiss at least once?

Also note the scene where she was talking on the phone before meeting Lana in the Talon She says at the end "I like you too' Not love but Like...
That caught me as well,she laughs and says "I like u 2" :lol: ,I dont wanna hear it anymore about chloe bein in luv wit him cause that there was jus 2 funny and i doubt it was meant to be funny :lol: .But naw honestly I agree,it was weird if he was as concern as he says when he ran to her he should have kissed her.I mean she protested the hug anyways so why not steal a kiss instead of jus a hug,I actually expected jimmy to run up and kiss her and clark hug her.But nope...nothin...Plus jimmy didn't have a big part in the epi but he sure didn't seem like the bf imo,atleast not a serious bf jus sum guy :\ .O well

Mackdaddy

02-15-2007, 08:17 PM

I was hoping Clark would smack Jimmy in the back of his head when he started to cry. What a wuss! Chloe needs a real man, a man of steel maybe;)

D.M.A.

02-15-2007, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Hey... Chloe also gave a reason for why Clark would be a wedding, how it represent... him moving on...
yea it was funny to hear her say that,cause I had figure the same when I heard lexana would actually go thru wit the weddin.Plus chloe does seem to want clark to send a message to lex and 2 see him try to move on,cause remember if Lab she thought he did til his crazy confession :rolleyes: .But the interaction they both had together(Chlark)jus screamed sumthin more,sumthin unresolved,sumone if not both in denial.I think as long as clark has those feelings for lana,chlark will stay behind the jus friends...But if clark can move on maybe he'll start to process his feelings alil quicker,so in a way I hope he does go to the weddin,like she said it'll show lexana and even hisself that he plans to move on.

jaybyrd28

02-15-2007, 08:21 PM

the sceene at the talon was all about clarks shock that chloe might be a meteor freak.

when she asked him to x-ray her he was extermly uncomfotable like i would be if someone asked me to look at them naked

the DP... friendship people, friendship

Well hey at least he didn't run for the hills at mach 2 when a potentially sexual situation arose...like when she asked him to x-ray her... Now why am I thinking about that particular scenario?

Crispin Glover

02-15-2007, 08:21 PM

I kept waiting for Clark to tell Chloe he loves her.

AWESOME

D.M.A.

02-15-2007, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
No to me the Clana scenes are showing the build up for a good friendship...
True I see them tryin to build lana up as a friend to clark,and maybe have him tryin to save her from lex(Since I doubt lets her go so easily after they officially wed).But the vibe clana gave tonight was more about trust then romantic,I think they showed enough of that the last 2 epi's.But I agree,I think they r settin clana up for friendship or atleast thats the vibe I got from this epi

Originally posted by Lostfan588
Oh! :lol: I saw that toooo!!!!!!!! And the scene...when Jimmy walks in and Clarks all.....cleaning the wound, for a second i thought.... oh nevermind heehee....and Jimmys like wth did you do to my girlfriend!!!!!!!!!:rotfl:
yea that scene was funny,I was like aww d@mn he done walked in on them huggin :lol: .But seein her bleedin and clark comfortin her was jus as good :lol:

Originally posted by Crispin Glover
I kept waiting for Clark to tell Chloe he loves her.

AWESOME
hey after jimmy's "Playin it safe,and wishin he could tell her how he feels",I think clark truly thought of it.He seem worried in this epi for her on multiple occasions,and wit the way they bonded and how I'm expectin in progeny as well...I expect by the end of the season wit all they'll go thru he jus might tell her(Or atleast next season).Cause its obvious he does

jimmyolsenblues

02-15-2007, 08:27 PM

Poor Jimmy was more hurt he was not involved than Chloe actually hurt .

D.M.A.

02-15-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Mackdaddy
I was hoping Clark would smack Jimmy in the back of his head when he started to cry. What a wuss! Chloe needs a real man, a man of steel maybe;)
Well hey I cant fault jimmy for bein in tears tonight,even clark was in tears he jus didn't let them fall.But he definitely in tears when talkin wit jimmy,jimmy isn't use to the craziness so he jus thought her kidnap was a reg one.But clark knew the full story and imo worried more,he jus couldn't show it to jimmy otherwise jimmy would question clark on what he knew.But I definitely cant fault him for tearin up tonight,clark did the same...But I agree she deserves a man of steel :D

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Poor Jimmy was more hurt he was not involved than Chloe actually hurt .
Jimmy did look hurt he couldn't do nothin,but clark for a moment imo look like he was goin to crack 2.When chloe grabbed the knife he looked jus as scared...Jimmy only assume she was gone forever and started rethinkin things,clark on the otherhand knew why she was missin and has seen her die before.I thought both boyz were scared to death tonight,jus diff levels of it.Tho jimmy looked disappointed he couldn't do more,I think clark was scared that he could but it was a risk(Thats why he hesitated to use his powers on her).Plus their talk at the DP u can tell he jus doesn't want to except she's in danger,he avoids the thought of losin her all together.Where as jimmy almost embrace it...both boyz tho scared smh,this should make clark open his eyez tho.He's riskin alot by not tellin her how he feels,which I thought tonight was evident he feels alil sumthin more

lillie_poo_pod

02-15-2007, 08:29 PM

I missed the episode *cries* :(

chlarklove

02-15-2007, 08:30 PM

Chlark owns my soul. That is all.

Well for now anyways. :p

savingpeoplething

02-15-2007, 08:49 PM

- Chlark investigative team
- Clark using his heat vision to get the GPS tracker out of Chloe was so intensive and well-acted by TW/AM; showed Chloe's utmost belief and trust in Clark's abilities and put her life in his hands
- The last scene at The Planet showed Chlark working through the tough times and being there for each other; Clark makes a vow to watch over her and tenderly touches her arm in reassurance, which makes her feel better and smiles

What's not to like about that??? :)

aqgalaxy

02-15-2007, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
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- The last scene at The Planet showed Chlark working through the tough times and being there for each other; Clark makes a vow to watch over her and tenderly touches her arm in reassurance, which makes her feel better and smiles

What's not to like about that??? :)

He doesn't just touch her arm... I watched the last scene again, yeah the focused the camera one that arm grab but when she looked at him a and smiled, he had his other arm behind her shoulder... Like that Pic

So he was touching her with both arms...

TheRowdy

02-15-2007, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Mackdaddy
I was hoping Clark would smack Jimmy in the back of his head when he started to cry. What a wuss! Chloe needs a real man, a man of steel maybe;)

For real! Don't get me wrong, I like Jimmy's character and all but tonight he was a tad bit dramatic.

D.M.A.

02-15-2007, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by lillie_poo_pod
I missed the episode *cries* :(
u missed it aww thats sad,cause it was great for any chlarker,to be honest even for lana/clana fans.Everyone was great tonight,but chlark was amazin,hopefully u get to see it soon.Definitely a great epi,should add to givin u that chlark hope espcially the DP scene at the end :D

Originally posted by savingpeoplething
- Chlark investigative team
- Clark using his heat vision to get the GPS tracker out of Chloe was so intensive and well-acted by TW/AM; showed Chloe's utmost belief and trust in Clark's abilities and put her life in his hands
- The last scene at The Planet showed Chlark working through the tough times and being there for each other; Clark makes a vow to watch over her and tenderly touches her arm in reassurance, which makes her feel better and smiles

What's not to like about that??? :)
I agree,great chlark tonight...And chloe trustin him completely as we've been shown in Justice/Lab that he trust her jus the same.Plus I think if we had gotten a facial expression of clark when jimmy was talkin of regrets for not speakin up about his feelings for her,I bet we'd seen him wonder the same.Cause when he was talkin wit jimmy he looked more worried cause he knew what was goin on...Great chlark moments tonight,they jus kept addin up,guess to makeup for last week :rolleyes:

Originally posted by aqgalaxy
He doesn't just touch her arm... I watched the last scene again, yeah the focused the camera one that arm grab but when she looked at him a and smiled, he had his other arm behind her shoulder... Like that Pic

So he was touching her with both arms...
yea by the time they show her lookin up at him and smilin,he has both arms around her.That moment to me jus didn't seem friendly :D

Mackdaddy

02-15-2007, 09:26 PM

I really see good thing coming for are favorite couple. Maybe a quick get away to Paris or Venice. I just want to see more Chlark:D

SteveS

02-15-2007, 09:27 PM

Did you notice, you-know-who was not even mentioned or missed again and we get one of the best episodes in ages. For me it was on a different level than most of Smallville.

And yes, Clark holding her arm or arms was so much warmer than that time he held lois' hand for a few seconds.

Maryliz48

02-15-2007, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by SteveS
Did you notice, you-know-who was not even mentioned or missed again and we get one of the best episodes in ages. For me it was on a different level than most of Smallville.

And yes, Clark holding her arm or arms was so much warmer than that time he held lois' hand for a few seconds.

YES. I noticed :lol: ....strange....

kkjdt

02-15-2007, 10:53 PM

I just so loved the Chlark in the episode

jazel

02-15-2007, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by svfan50
Chlarkfan.......i haven't seen the episode yet!!! But looking at your threads....looks like it would be dissappointing......
epi is pretty good, Clark's a good friend to Chloe ;)

aqgalaxy

02-15-2007, 10:57 PM

lillie_poo_pod

02-15-2007, 11:14 PM

I LOVEDD the Chlark in this episode. The best ever!!!! The scene @ the end was just too touching.

mtnmama236

02-15-2007, 11:18 PM

When I watched the episode for a second time, I watched both Trespass & Freak in a row. I noticed that since Crimson Clark's chemistry with Lana has changed. He's very reserved with her--not all heart on his sleeve like he used to be! I found that to be VERY interesting.

His chemistry with Chloe is still very warm & friendly. He tells her everything. They have such an incredible bond--it's really fun to watch.

svfan50

02-15-2007, 11:25 PM

Todays episode was kool...it was really nice....besides, I didn't even mid Lana and Clark together....it looks so much better when she trusted Clark....but Clark and Chloe were awsome together....the level of trust both had in each other...it was just awsome....but I think, for something to happen between them, Jimmy seriosly needs to blow up before both of them and break up with Chloe.......othervise, both are still hanging in friends dept..while both realize there is something else...

MsSullivan

02-15-2007, 11:34 PM

The CHLARK was amazing. The scene w/Clark taking the device out of Chloe was kinda...hot & the last DP scene was sweet and touching. Pure love.

chlark=destiny

02-15-2007, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by nipvillesmlltuk
Yes...I looooved the close up of his hand touching her arm...hmmmm, I wonder why they focused on that shot specifically????

EXACTLY!;) The director wanted to show Clark's changed feelings for Chloe. This was something very intimate; it might have not screamed romantic, but it was very personal:p He hasn't shown this much affection towards her since season 1. Actually, Clark has shown A LOT MORE AFFECTION towards her out of ALL six seasons. His feelings are DEFINITELY changing:D

Mackdaddy

02-16-2007, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
EXACTLY!;) The director wanted to show Clark's changed feelings for Chloe. This was something very intimate; it might have not screamed romantic, but it was very personal:p He hasn't shown this much affection towards her since season 1. Actually, Clark has shown A LOT MORE AFFECTION towards her out of ALL six seasons. His feelings are DEFINITELY changing:D

No doubt! Long time coming but well worth the wait:D

chlark=destiny

02-16-2007, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by Lostfan588
:lol: I luv the scene when Jimmys posting up Chloes pic and telling Clark how about what if he had this girl he cared about all along but "I was so busy playing it cool, I never got the chance to tell her how I felt."

And Chloe pops up behind them out of nowhere...."Now's your chance."

And Clark whirls around with this strange look on his face mouthing like he got sumthing to say...

And Jimmy runs in the way :rotfl:

Yeah, I thought that was funny:lol:

Did you also notice that when Jimmy was confessing his feelings for Chloe, they did NOT ZOOM in on Clark's face?:confused: It's almost like the director didn't want to give TOO MUCH away about how Clark feels about Chloe. ALSO, when Clark tells Chloe that he is glad to see her, he looks awkwardly at Jimmy. . .HMM. . .I wonder why he did that? I think that he did that, because he was afraid to show Jimmy how he TRULY FEELS for Chloe. Clark doesn't want to RUIN CHIMMY'S RELATIONSHIP. He'd rather Chloe be happy, so he's going to continue to bottle up his feelings. Clark might have told Jimmy in Tresspass that he sees Chloe as a friend, BUT I don't believe it. Throughout this season, Al and Miles have HINTED towards Clark seeing Chloe in a ROMANTIC LIGHT;) I seriously don't think that they would all of a sudden in one episode (Tresspass) show Clark seeing Chloe as a friend again. . .SORRY DON'T BUY IT:rolleyes:

This was a VERY SIGNIFICANT episode for CHLARK. . .their relationship reached a NEW LEVEL tonight:D

InLove_with_Chloe

02-16-2007, 03:52 AM

No hug, no kiss....
Disappointing.

Mr.Magic

02-16-2007, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
No hug, no kiss....
Disappointing.

But there was penetration, how as a Chloe fan can't you be satisfied! :p

InLove_with_Chloe

02-16-2007, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by Mr.Magic
But there was penetration, how as a Chloe fan can't you be satisfied! :p
:lol:
Well done....
No, I am not satisfied. IMO, they used her as a plot device, once again. I don't like when they do that.
:mad:

jaime,oburg

02-16-2007, 05:31 AM

Chlark always represents the most honest and healthy relationship for any two characters on this show. Whether one is a Chlark shipper or not it's not hard to see how the relationship between these two characters just keeps getting stronger. The bond they have and how much they care about one another. I never get tired of those scenes. The way Clark had to struggle with the idea of how he had to hurt Chloe physically first in order to help her out of the bigger problem was amazing. The Chlark just keeps getting better for me no matter what ship tptb are pushing romantically.

InLove_with_Chloe

02-16-2007, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by jaime,oburg
The Chlark just keeps getting better for me no matter what ship tptb are pushing romantically.
I agree, although some romance wouldn't hurt anyone, IMO...
:D

svfan50

02-16-2007, 06:44 AM

Now I think Clark and Chloe would be going to Lex and Lana's wedding together.....something might happen there..she is wearing pink!!!!

InLove_with_Chloe

02-16-2007, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by svfan50
Now I think Clark and Chloe would be going to Lex and Lana's wedding together.....something might happen there..she is wearing pink!!!!
Maybe Chlark will finish their dance...?!?
:D

meteor_phreak

02-16-2007, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by Mr.Magic
But there was penetration, how as a Chloe fan can't you be satisfied! :p well played, sir.

but seriously, it was what i expected, but of course i wanted more. i think tptb are taking cues from harem anime, letting each viewer see what he/she wants. they are definitely still hanging romantic chlark out there. the best thing about it, though, may be the one thing most likely to keep it from happening. what would get in the way of chlark success? how would they explain it's break-up? and don't talk about chloe dying...that's something i don't even want to consider.

superpal1

02-16-2007, 07:12 AM

I loved how when she asked Clark to xray her and Clark looked shocked. Chloe goes we are all adults here, just do it. Why do people forget that Clark could have seen Chloe naked. I know when they show xray vision, it is always a skeleton shot, but remember, that is not how it actually works. When Clark first got xray vision and he looked through the wall, each piece fell away, it was not a pure xray(skeleton)image. Chloe saying this to Clark just made me aware that in order for him to examine her, each piece would have to fall away. Am I right in this?
Either way, this episode showed just how much each cared for the other. Clark looked shaken when he could not find Chloe. Enough so, that he was willing to let Jimmy hack the computer to find her even though it may have contained his secret on it.

meteor_phreak

02-16-2007, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by superpal1
[B]I loved how when she asked Clark to xray her and Clark looked shocked. Chloe goes we are all adults here, just do it. Why do people forget that Clark could have seen Chloe naked. I know when they show xray vision, it is always a skeleton shot, but remember, that is not how it actually works. When Clark first got xray vision and he looked through the wall, each piece fell away, it was not a pure xray(skeleton)image. Chloe saying this to Clark just made me aware that in order for him to examine her, each piece would have to fall away. Am I right in this? [B] maybe, maybe not. that could simply have been because he was still learning to use heat vision, and now that he's had that power for a while, he can just jump directly to the level of x-ray he wants, or can get there so quickly that he doesn't have to pay attention to chloe naked. i thought it was thrown in for humor, and not intended to be examined this closely though. IMO, they were definitely implying he would see her at least some version of naked and wasn't entirely comfortable.

svfan50

02-16-2007, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by superpal1
I loved how when she asked Clark to xray her and Clark looked shocked. Chloe goes we are all adults here, just do it. Why do people forget that Clark could have seen Chloe naked. I know when they show xray vision, it is always a skeleton shot, but remember, that is not how it actually works. When Clark first got xray vision and he looked through the wall, each piece fell away, it was not a pure xray(skeleton)image. Chloe saying this to Clark just made me aware that in order for him to examine her, each piece would have to fall away. Am I right in this?
Either way, this episode showed just how much each cared for the other. Clark looked shaken when he could not find Chloe. Enough so, that he was willing to let Jimmy hack the computer to find her even though it may have contained his secret on it.

H'mmm...interesting...!!!!!!

chlarkfan333

02-16-2007, 07:38 AM

The bomb-squad line at the end is without doubt the best Chlark moment in my book after Chloe's 'worth the wait' (S1) and 'superhero' (Arrival) comments.

There was just something about it. :D

For the first time I was happy with the Chlark we got. For once, we weren't shortchanged. I enjoyed every moment of it!

InLove_with_Chloe

02-16-2007, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by chlarkfan333
The bomb-squad line at the end is without doubt the best Chlark moment in my book after Chloe's 'worth the wait' (S1) and 'superhero' (Arrival) comments.

There was just something about it. :D

For the first time I was happy with the Chlark we got. For once, we weren't shortchanged. I enjoyed every moment of it!
Hmmmmmm, really?
Was it that good for you???
I was a little disappointed that all we got was an arm-touching... After all those recent hugs I was hoping for a kiss.
:mad:
And yeah......'bomb squad'......didn't really sound romantic, IMO.

chlarkfan333

02-16-2007, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Hmmmmmm, really?
Was it that good for you???
I was a little disappointed that all we got was an arm-touching... After all those recent hugs I was hoping for a kiss.
:mad:
And yeah......'bomb squad'......didn't really sound romantic, IMO.

I never expected romance, so I wasn't disappointed at all. That bomb-squad line transcends romantic stuff, because it is very Supermanly.

Absolute Kingdom

02-16-2007, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Hmmmmmm, really?
Was it that good for you???
I was a little disappointed that all we got was an arm-touching... After all those recent hugs I was hoping for a kiss.
:mad:
And yeah......'bomb squad'......didn't really sound romantic, IMO.

You're kidding right? I don't even like the idea of Chlark, but I have to admit, that was a nice romantic scene. The first one since the Vessel kiss.

margroks

02-16-2007, 08:27 AM

The ep was really pretty good although first the local station delayed it for basketball and then screwed up the sound during the bowling alley scene. There was sound from a commercial then from Supernatural for a few minutes so I missed a bit.

But Chloe and Clark once again showed why their chemistry is top notch. The heat vision scene was intense and riveting. Totally believable and TPTB are nuts for not capitalizing on the super chemistry these two have. The touching was sweet and natural. Both the actors and the characters they portray are obviously very comfortable with each other. Bravo!

InLove_with_Chloe

02-16-2007, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by Absolute Kingdom
You're kidding right? I don't even like the idea of Chlark, but I have to admit, that was a nice romantic scene. The first one since the Vessel kiss.
OK guys..... Maybe I'm in one of my grumpy moods today, hehe. Or maybe I still expect too much from Clarkie. I mean, he's so close to figuring it out... She's right there in front of you!!!
Oh well, don't mind me...
;)

svfan50

02-16-2007, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
OK guys..... Maybe I'm in one of my grumpy moods today, hehe. Or maybe I still expect too much from Clarkie. I mean, he's so close to figuring it out... She's right there in front of you!!!
Oh well, don't mind me...
;)

EXXACTLYYYYY!!!!!

Atleast if not a kiss...i xpected at the end of the episode....after Clark said "personal bomb sqad" a long stare at each other and an uncomfortable brushing of the sudden moment......!!!!!!!

Lelak

02-16-2007, 08:42 AM

:D CLOIS

Ayanne

02-16-2007, 09:25 AM

Chlark hit it outta the ballpark in Freak!!

There is no comparison to the chemistry, depth, intensity, intimacy of their relationship on Smallville.

The trust is complete & the depth of their connection/feelings for each other.

BRING IT ON!! CHLARK is the REAL deal!!

Mackdaddy

02-16-2007, 10:39 AM

Give me a C!

Give me a H!

Give me a L!

Give me a A!

Give ma a R!

Give me a K!

Whats that spell? CHLARK, CHLARK, CHLARK yeah CHLARK!!:D

Iluvgreen

02-16-2007, 10:59 AM

Chlark was SOOOO COOL!!!!! CLANA IS OVER AND DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!

Lostfan588

02-16-2007, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Mackdaddy
Give me a C!

Give me a H!

Give me a L!

Give me a A!

Give ma a R!

Give me a K!

Whats that spell? CHLARK, CHLARK, CHLARK yeah CHLARK!!:D

:rotfl:

CHLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK!!!!!!!

RedKRules

02-16-2007, 11:18 AM

I must confess ........that CHLARK interaction in this episode was really deep and sweet !! .......

InLove_with_Chloe

02-16-2007, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by Iluvgreen
Chlark was SOOOO COOL!!!!! CLANA IS OVER AND DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!
Let's hope so...

Lostfan588

02-16-2007, 11:42 AM

CHLARK!!!!!!!!!! BEST CHLARK YET!!!!! Well even better if kiss...must get rid of JImmy first...but who cares....CHLARK IS coming... mwahaha!!!!

khol145

02-16-2007, 11:50 AM

I think they were awesome...

Ayanne

02-16-2007, 11:55 AM

This episode pretty much highlighted why no other ship can hold a candle to Chlark.

The subtext, their angsty history, connection, trust, chemistry, depth & intensity between Clark & Chloe makes every other relationship pale in comparison.

chlark=destiny

02-16-2007, 12:20 PM

Hey ya'll, I just re-watched Freak again, (I know. . .I know. . .I'm obssessed:p), and there was something very INTERESTING about the CHLARKIMMY reunion at the Talon. While Jimmy is confessing to Clark about how he feels about Chloe, she startles them when she pops up behind them. . .

WATCH CLARK'S REACTION CLOSELY. . .

He wants to HUG her, BUT then he HESITATES, BECAUSE of JIMMY! :( It was OBVIOUS that he wanted to hug her, but he was afraid to show any AFFECTION towards Chloe in front of Jimmy, because he told him in Tresspass that he only saw her as s friend. . .YEAH RIGHT:rolleyes:

If you notice that when Jimmy and Clark first discover that Chloe is missing, Clark plays it cool. It's not until he confronts Tobias that we see him get angry, protective, and emotional about Chloe's abduction;)

Folks, I may be a CHLARKER, BUT I can STILL tell whether or not Clark has feelings for Chloe. . .and that also applies to the other ships as well (it's obvious he still has feelings for Lana; he's beginning to view Lois differently). . .BELIEVE ME. . .CHLARK HAD CHEMISTRY TONIGHT. . .ROMANTIC:p. . .THE SCENE AT THE DAILY PLANET SPOKE VOLUMES!;)

Clark lied to Jimmy; HE SEES CHLOE AS MORE THAN A FRIEND. . .THERE WAS DEFINITELY A ROMANTIC VIBE;)

Originally posted by Absolute Kingdom
You're kidding right? I don't even like the idea of Chlark, but I have to admit, that was a nice romantic scene. The first one since the Vessel kiss.

Yeah I agree too, but the fireside chat in Labyrinth was also romantic:p

D.M.A.

02-16-2007, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Hey ya'll, I just re-watched Freak again, (I know. . .I know. . .I'm obssessed:p), and there was something very INTERESTING about the CHLARKIMMY reunion at the Talon. While Jimmy is confessing to Clark about how he feels about Chloe, she startles them when she pops up behind them. . .

WATCH CLARK'S REACTION CLOSELY. . .

He wants to HUG her, BUT then he HESITATES, BECAUSE of JIMMY! :( It was OBVIOUS that he wanted to hug her, but he was afraid to show any AFFECTION towards Chloe in front of Jimmy, because he told him in Tresspass that he only saw her as s friend. . .YEAH RIGHT:rolleyes:

If you notice that when Jimmy and Clark first discover that Chloe is missing, Clark plays it cool. It's not until he confronts Tobias that we see him get angry, protective, and emotional about Chloe's abduction;)

Folks, I may be a CHLARKER, BUT I can STILL tell whether or not Clark has feelings for Chloe. . .and that also applies to the other ships as well (it's obvious he still has feelings for Lana; he's beginning to view Lois differently). . .BELIEVE ME. . .CHLARK HAD CHEMISTRY TONIGHT. . .ROMANTIC:p. . .THE SCENE AT THE DAILY PLANET SPOKE VOLUMES!;)

Clark lied to Jimmy; HE SEES CHLOE AS MORE THAN A FRIEND. . .THERE WAS DEFINITELY A ROMANTIC VIBE;)

Yeah I agree too, but the fireside chat in Labyrinth was also romantic:p
I agree,he did look like he wanted to run up and hug her but jimmy beat him to it.Clark didn't kno what to do in that situation,but imo it was clear he wanted to grab her.Also ur right at first wit jimmy he's tryin to calm jimmy down and not upset hisself either,but when he talks wit tobias he starts to panic.The prob wit panic like jimmy was that when he knew the whole truth behind chloe bein kidnap but couldn't panic otherwise jimmy would have known clark knew.So instead we jus see him tear up talkin to jimmy and then have jimmy make the outburst about not tellin chloe how he feels(Which I think ties into clark wantin to hug/say sumthin to her and tear up).Also jimmy stand inbetween them clearly when clark ask her where she's been once again assurin us the triangle is still there.I do think his feelings r changin and in freak we were shown them slowly changin.Where it leads who knows,but they definitely showed that clark views her more than jus a friend.Its jus once again jimmy is an obstacle jus for clark,jus as lana is for chloe.Intil clark starts to move on from lana and jimmy see's that chloe can never luv him(Like she does clark)I see more hints at chlark but nothin more.Jus denial,but freak definitely showed that chloe's feelings r startin to be return from clark.Where it leads we'll see :\

Originally posted by Absolute Kingdom
You're kidding right? I don't even like the idea of Chlark, but I have to admit, that was a nice romantic scene. The first one since the Vessel kiss.
Comin from u that says alot :D ,cause I kno u usually dont see nothin more between chlark.So if sumone as convince usually there is nothin from chlark on clark's side see sumthin then its tellin.And jus maybe tptb put that scene in there on purpose,doesn't mean it'll lead to anythin at this point.But it was definitely put there to show us that clark does have feelings for her 2 that isn't jus friendly :D

AndiGirl

02-16-2007, 01:00 PM

I don't know why...but when Jimmy was talking about how pathetic it was that he never told Chloe how he really felt because he was playing it cool....that really reminded me of Clark! I really think that's how Clark feels too....and I'm not sure if they were hinting at that or not, but I think SO! :)

Absolute Kingdom

02-16-2007, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by D.M.A.
Comin from u that says alot ,cause I kno u usually dont see nothin more between chlark.

There's nothing scary in acknowledging that there was something more than friendship between them in that scene, even if I don't ship them. If I want to tick off some fans and say that there wasn't anything between them, will that make me right? Will that negate that there was something more? In both cases, no. So why waste my time and nerves to prove something that it isn't true?

Rachel B

02-16-2007, 01:24 PM

Is it wrong that I am still excited? I've watched all the Chlark scenes over again and I'm still psyched! TpTb would be foolich to let this ship sink, Chlark has so much chemistry it's electrifying. All that potential should not sit on the shelf.................

....... What do we want? CHLARK!
When do we want it? NOW!

Scribe

02-16-2007, 02:07 PM

Why does it have to turn romantic. I think the best part of the Clark Chloe relationship is that she's his best friend without there being the need for it. Clark loves Chloe - there's no doubt about it. Not only does she accept him unconditionally for what he is, she's not afraid to roll up her sleeves and get in there to haul his ass out of trouble when he needs it, why would Clark want to ruin what is already a great friendship by changing the status quo?

meteor_phreak

02-16-2007, 02:07 PM

InLove_with_Chloe

02-16-2007, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Scribe
...why would Clark want to ruin what is already a great friendship by changing the status quo?
Who says changing the 'status quo' would ruin their relationship???
How can you be so sure?!?

chlark=destiny

02-16-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by Rachel B
Is it wrong that I am still excited? I've watched all the Chlark scenes over again and I'm still psyched! TpTb would be foolich to let this ship sink, Chlark has so much chemistry it's electrifying. All that potential should not sit on the shelf.................

....... What do we want? CHLARK!
When do we want it? NOW!

You GO GIRL:lol:

AndiGirl

02-16-2007, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
that HAD to be on purpose...the whole time jimmy was sayin "I was so busy playin it cool..." clark had that look on his face like "me too..."

My thoughts exactly! Then Chloe says something like "Well here's your chance" after Jimmy says he's never told her how he feels. You see Clark wanting to go to her, but he stops because of Jimmy. I don't know....it all seemed to be hinting at Clark's hidden feelings.

Maryliz48

02-16-2007, 09:12 PM

DorkMatter

02-16-2007, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by AndiGirl
I don't know why...but when Jimmy was talking about how pathetic it was that he never told Chloe how he really felt because he was playing it cool....that really reminded me of Clark! I really think that's how Clark feels too....and I'm not sure if they were hinting at that or not, but I think SO! :)

If anything, the subtext seemed almost too heavy-handed--not subtle at all. And this is coming from a guy. I mean, no, I don't see why I need to use the correct terminology for every specific shade of green (assuming that I can even discern it), but I sure noticed what this scene was trying to say about Clark's feelings and his predicament! ;)

Originally posted by Scribe
Why does it have to turn romantic.

Because their relationship has certain profound qualities that all "romantic" relationships should possess but all too often do not, and some of us want to see that kind of "romance" portrayed on TV, developed right before our eyes as it always has been on this show. What's the difference between a real "romantic" couple and Chlark, anyway? Full disclosure and acknowledgment of their feelings? Sex? Pffft! They've got the important aspects down pat--the rest will come along. The problem is that they're on a TV show that won't fully resolve anything until the end, if ever.

Originally posted by Scribe
I think the best part of the Clark Chloe relationship is that she's his best friend without there being the need for it.

What's great is that their love for one another is battle-tested and not based on sexual desire--it's real, as well as earned by the show (a rarity in its believability). I would like now to see their relationship become more complete, encompassing all forms of "love." What could be wrong with that?

Originally posted by Scribe
Clark loves Chloe - there's no doubt about it. Not only does she accept him unconditionally for what he is, she's not afraid to roll up her sleeves and get in there to haul his ass out of trouble when he needs it, why would Clark want to ruin what is already a great friendship by changing the status quo?

Does this not seem like the ideal basis for a romance? If friendship like this is mutually exclusive of romance, then to hell with romance! I'd rather die of old age "alone" with such a friend than put myself through a typical TV romance. Fortunately, even cruel reality affords a greater number of options for most of us.

As for Chlark, they've been through a lot together, and I don't see why it would be such a risk for them to explore other aspects of their relationship. If their friendship is ruined, then it never was as strong as we thought it was (and Al/Miles would stink for this retcon of monumental proportions). To hesitate, as they (particularly Clark of course) have done means that they value their friendship, but to simply be too afraid to ever try would mean that they are cowards who have no confidence in themselves or each other. It's about time to cowboy up, Clark...unless there's another season of filler to trudge through.... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Who says changing the 'status quo' would ruin their relationship???
How can you be so sure?!?

I guess the idea is that "romance" is all about drama and people needlessly hurting each other because of their "love." :rolleyes: It's like a ball & chain that weighs people down with the "commitment" they unwittingly signed on for as if it were a business transaction, while being blinded and driven mad by sexual desire or desperation (or all of the above). For the sake of comparison, at least with something like prostitution, people don't get emotionally burned (or so I would think).

There is no desire on anybody's part to "ruin" a great friendship with romance, being that friendship is apparently far more meaningful, healthy, and just flat-out superior to romance in the absence of true friendship on this show. But wouldn't it be nice if a couple could have both? If this is possible, then the only plausible true love relationship on this show for Clark would be Chlark, because so much good development of the most important part of any intimate relationship has been accomplished and well earned between these two characters. The choice is between the mutual love of Chlark--one genuinely for the other--and...something other than this ideal.

InLove_with_Chloe

02-17-2007, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by DorkMatter
There is no desire on anybody's part to "ruin" a great friendship with romance, being that friendship is apparently far more meaningful, healthy, and just flat-out superior to romance in the absence of true friendship on this show. But wouldn't it be nice if a couple could have both? If this is possible, then the only plausible true love relationship on this show for Clark would be Chlark, because so much good development of the most important part of any intimate relationship has been accomplished and well earned between these two characters. The choice is between the mutual love of Chlark--one genuinely for the other--and...something other than this ideal.
Yes, I think it's time we see a real, functioning romantic relationship involving Clark Kent on this show. Nothing idealized. This would resolve a lot of unnecessary tension.

...and Chlark is the only viable option, IMO.

DorkMatter

02-17-2007, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yes, I think it's time we see a real, functioning romantic relationship involving Clark Kent on this show.

This has to be portrayed in order for Clark to develop and grow--it is mandated by the collective weight of all of his dysfunctional (and sometimes literally insane) relationship issues.

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Nothing idealized. This would resolve a lot of unnecessary tension.

...and Chlark is the only viable option, IMO.

Agreed, although I should point out that my use of the root word "ideal" earlier is different from yours--it was meant to evoke something for which people should strive. What you mean by idealized here is totally valid and I totally agree--Chlark is as real a love relationship as any I've seen on TV. It's not idealized in the sense of having illusions about one another, but in a more abstract sense, this is the "ideal" kind of romance that many of us want to see: two characters who truly know and love one another as people, warts and all. If you look past the surface, this is not often the case with romance on TV, and even more rarely is it so well developed.

Stepping back a bit, it's interesting to note how the two camps--the one that supports Chlark romance and the one that supports friendship only (leaving anti-Chlarkers out for the moment)--view the relevant aspects of this issue that are external to the story. Those who support romance would tend to think (or so I believe) that TPTB are deliberately holding back Chlark for contrived reasons (some of which I've given), while some of the friendship-only camp have justified their point of view that romance would ruin the friendship by citing the known end result: that Clark must fall in love with Lois Lane.

Now, there are enormous threads in the Theories & Speculation forum that already cover one possibility for those who support romance for Chlark, so I won't get into that here, but regardless, I think that Chlark absolutely trumps Superman/Lois Lane in any incarnation. The bottom line is that I want this story to develop as naturally as possible from where it has been set up today--which comprises over five years of development--and that's because I want the best story that can be scrounged from this show. It would take some guts, but as the old saying goes: no guts, no glory.

InLove_with_Chloe

02-17-2007, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by DorkMatter
Agreed, although I should point out that my use of the root word "ideal" earlier is different from yours--it was meant to evoke something for which people should strive. What you mean by idealized here is totally valid and I totally agree--Chlark is as real a love relationship as any I've seen on TV. It's not idealized in the sense of having illusions about one another, but in a more abstract sense, this is the "ideal" kind of romance that many of us want to see: two characters who truly know and love one another as people, warts and all. If you look past the surface, this is not often the case with romance on TV, and even more rarely is it so well developed.

Stepping back a bit, it's interesting to note how the two camps--the one that supports Chlark romance and the one that supports friendship only (leaving anti-Chlarkers out for the moment)--view the relevant aspects of this issue that are external to the story. Those who support romance would tend to think (or so I believe) that TPTB are deliberately holding back Chlark for contrived reasons (some of which I've given), while some of the friendship-only camp have justified their point of view that romance would ruin the friendship by citing the known end result: that Clark must fall in love with Lois Lane.

Now, there are enormous threads in the Theories & Speculation forum that already cover one possibility for those who support romance for Chlark, so I won't get into that here, but regardless, I think that Chlark absolutely trumps Superman/Lois Lane in any incarnation. The bottom line is that I want this story to develop as naturally as possible from where it has been set up today--which comprises over five years of development--and that's because I want the best story that can be scrounged from this show. It would take some guts, but as the old saying goes: no guts, no glory.
Man, I love you.
;)
Truly great post, I agree...

Krypton935

02-17-2007, 01:04 PM

the chlark chemistry in this ep was amazing! everything i wanted to see and then some it was awesome!

freefall

02-17-2007, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by DorkMatter
Now, there are enormous threads in the Theories & Speculation forum that already cover one possibility for those who support romance for Chlark, so I won't get into that here, but regardless, I think that Chlark absolutely trumps Superman/Lois Lane in any incarnation.

Clark/Chloe and Superman/Lois Lane are miles apart in comparison. From what we know right now regarding Chlark relationship, if Clark wants to hook up with her it's only because she's a backup plan. Not to mention Chloe puts him on a pedestal and practically worships him. It's not a relationship of equals at all.

Maryliz48

02-17-2007, 11:29 PM

pshhhhh....CHLARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHLARK!!!!!!!!!! I gotta go watch this episode AGAIN! I luv it! :lol:

Angelina2809

02-18-2007, 05:11 AM

I always was Clana fan!!!! I really wish that something will happen between them in season 6 or maybe in the next season 7!
But I also love to see Clark and Chloe together! They are really good friends who trust eachother very much!!! As Chloe asked him to burn her.....Clark had tears in his eyes and I think it was one of the hardest things he had to do in his life! She really means a lot to him - like he said in the end of labyrinth!!!
They are really sweet!!!!
Clark said to Jimmy that Chloe means a lot to him - but as her friend. Do you think that was the truth? Myabe he is not sure too! In all the season there always was something between them. Do get me wrong: I know he loves Lana and he always will. Between Clark and Chloe is something different/spezial!
Even if I am a Clana fan I would like to see more szene like this!!!!
There was a Chlark in this episode!!!!

InLove_with_Chloe

02-18-2007, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Angelina2809
Clark said to Jimmy that Chloe means a lot to him - but as her friend. Do you think that was the truth?
Honestly, I don't think Clark himself really knows the answer to that question...
:\

Ayanne

02-18-2007, 09:11 AM

Clark said to Jimmy that Chloe means a lot to him - but as her friend. Do you think that was the truth? Myabe he is not sure too! In all the season there always was something between them. Do get me wrong: I know he loves Lana and he always will. Between Clark and Chloe is something different/spezial!

Did Clark say *JUST* as a friend? or "as a friend"... because people can love each other on more than one level.

Is there any doubt that Chloe loves Clark "as a friend" AND has feelings deeper that she kept to herself for a long time?

Clark said "you mean more to me than you will ever know"... SHE knows he cares about her *as a friend*.

Clark & Lana were "just friends" at one time too.

Khyla

02-18-2007, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
that HAD to be on purpose...the whole time jimmy was sayin "I was so busy playin it cool..." clark had that look on his face like "me too..." even if they didn't show it, ya just knew that's what clark was thinkin, and of course that was their purpose for having JO say that. :)

Originally posted by DorkMatter
If anything, the subtext seemed almost too heavy-handed--not subtle at all. And this is coming from a guy. [...]I sure noticed what this scene was trying to say about Clark's feelings and his predicament! ;)

What's great is that their love for one another is battle-tested and not based on sexual desire--it's real, as well as earned by the show (a rarity in its believability). I would like now to see their relationship become more complete, encompassing all forms of "love." What could be wrong with that?

Does this not seem like the ideal basis for a romance? If friendship like this is mutually exclusive of romance, then to hell with romance! I'd rather die of old age "alone" with such a friend than put myself through a typical TV romance. Fortunately, even cruel reality affords a greater number of options for most of us.

As for Chlark, they've been through a lot together, and I don't see why it would be such a risk for them to explore other aspects of their relationship. If their friendship is ruined, then it never was as strong as we thought it was (and Al/Miles would stink for this retcon of monumental proportions). To hesitate, as they (particularly Clark of course) have done means that they value their friendship, but to simply be too afraid to ever try would mean that they are cowards who have no confidence in themselves or each other. ...

I guess the idea is that "romance" is all about drama and people needlessly hurting each other because of their "love." :rolleyes: It's like a ball & chain that weighs people down with the "commitment" they unwittingly signed on for as if it were a business transaction, while being blinded and driven mad by sexual desire or desperation (or all of the above). For the sake of comparison, at least with something like prostitution, people don't get emotionally burned (or so I would think).

There is no desire on anybody's part to "ruin" a great friendship with romance, being that friendship is apparently far more meaningful, healthy, and just flat-out superior to romance in the absence of true friendship on this show. But wouldn't it be nice if a couple could have both? If this is possible, then the only plausible true love relationship on this show for Clark would be Chlark, because so much good development of the most important part of any intimate relationship has been accomplished and well earned between these two characters. The choice is between the mutual love of Chlark--one genuinely for the other--and...something other than this ideal. [/B] I LOVE U DorkMatter! (i know, i probably told you before :o )

Great post! ---as are all of yours!

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I WANT MORE INTENSE HOT CHLARK PENETRATION!;) :p :)

Angelina2809

02-18-2007, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Ayanne
Did Clark say *JUST* as a friend? or "as a friend"... because people can love each other on more than one level.

Is there any doubt that Chloe loves Clark "as a friend" AND has feelings deeper that she kept to herself for a long time?

Clark said "you mean more to me than you will ever know"... SHE knows he cares about her *as a friend*.

Clark & Lana were "just friends" at one time too.

You are right! Clark said: AS A FRIEND! My mistake!!!!

D.M.A.

02-18-2007, 12:18 PM

STFanatic

02-18-2007, 02:05 PM

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I WANT MORE INTENSE HOT CHLARK PENETRATION!;) :p :) [/B]

You mean... :eek:

http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/?action=view&current=letsdoit.flv
:lol:

Khyla

02-18-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by STFanatic
You mean... :eek:

http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/?action=view&current=letsdoit.flv
:lol: :rotfl: EXACTLY!

but we need that soundtrack with THIS pic:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2277195#post2277195

:)

have you read this?:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2830147#post2830147

chlark=destiny

02-19-2007, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by Angelina2809
I always was Clana fan!!!! I really wish that something will happen between them in season 6 or maybe in the next season 7!
But I also love to see Clark and Chloe together! They are really good friends who trust eachother very much!!! As Chloe asked him to burn her.....Clark had tears in his eyes and I think it was one of the hardest things he had to do in his life! She really means a lot to him - like he said in the end of labyrinth!!!
They are really sweet!!!!
Clark said to Jimmy that Chloe means a lot to him - but as her friend. Do you think that was the truth? Myabe he is not sure too! In all the season there always was something between them. Do get me wrong: I know he loves Lana and he always will. Between Clark and Chloe is something different/spezial!
Even if I am a Clana fan I would like to see more szene like this!!!!
There was a Chlark in this episode!!!!

That's so AWESOME that you, as a professed CLANA fan, can OBJECTIVELY view the CHLARK scenes in Freak as something MORE than friendship:D

I think that Clark *DOES* love Chloe as more than a friend, but he is still very much in love with Lana. Until he can completely give his heart to Chloe, I think that he will continue to convince himself that Chloe is just his friend. However, we all know that Clark has at least thought about Chloe as more than a friend:p So, there is definitely HOPE that he will finally explore his TRUE feelings;) Season 6 has provided us with a lot of proof that Clark is seeing Chloe in a *romantic* light:p PLUS, now that Clark has vowed to PROTECT HER, being her personal bomb squad, I can totally see them growing A LOT CLOSER:D

RPMSDB

02-19-2007, 01:46 PM

Freak was the perfect example of why I always have and always will ship Chlark. There is just something so real and refreshing about their relationship. It transcends any relationship I have ever seen on TV or in the movies, as well as any I have ever read in a book (I have read PLENTY of books).

The scene at the Talon was just WOW! The intensity and trust in that room between Clark and Chloe is just so moving. I do not blame him for being reluctant. He had never ever embarked on using his heat vision in such a way. And when it came to using it on the person closest to him . . . The fact that he knew Chloe’s life depended on him was a bit overwhelming for him, but he came through.

His patching up Chloe’s shoulder was sweet. I also thought his ‘staring’ at her earlier was cute.

Then, the DP scene. The way he came in and pulled a chair up next to Chloe . . . there was something about it. Then telling her he would be her personal bomb squad – it gave me a good feeling inside.

I do not know if there was or was not anything beyond friendship behind Clark holding Chloe’s arm. But, there was something about it that was different on his part than anything I’ve seen before. It did remind me of the time he grabbed her hand in season one. However, there was something much deeper and meaningful this time.

Also, the fact that he just found out Lana would be okay with him being a freak, but not mentioning that or Lana, spoke volumes to me. I do not think that has ever happened before (of course, I could be wrong).

TPTB do have the ability to let Chlark happen. However, it is a HUGE risk. They are fully aware that the Chlark dynamic works. But to take the risk of making it more than just friends is something they cannot and will not take lightly. IF they do decide to go that route, it has to been done at the right time, and in the right way. Once they cross that line (that is IF they do) there is no going back. They risk losing some of their audience and they know it. This has been true for many TV shows, L&C is a good example – once Clois hooked up, the fans’ wishes had been fulfilled and there wasn’t much left for them to look forward to.

Yes, I know there are many people who do watch SV to see Clark’s journey into Superman, including hooking up with Lois. However, there are plenty of people who do not watch it because of that. Believe it or not, people actually enjoy this program because it is an intriguing journey to watch.

InLove_with_Chloe

02-20-2007, 07:07 AM

Rhoda123

02-20-2007, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by DorkMatter
This has to be portrayed in order for Clark to develop and grow--it is mandated by the collective weight of all of his dysfunctional (and sometimes literally insane) relationship issues.

Agreed, although I should point out that my use of the root word "ideal" earlier is different from yours--it was meant to evoke something for which people should strive. What you mean by idealized here is totally valid and I totally agree--Chlark is as real a love relationship as any I've seen on TV. It's not idealized in the sense of having illusions about one another, but in a more abstract sense, this is the "ideal" kind of romance that many of us want to see: two characters who truly know and love one another as people, warts and all. If you look past the surface, this is not often the case with romance on TV, and even more rarely is it so well developed.

Stepping back a bit, it's interesting to note how the two camps--the one that supports Chlark romance and the one that supports friendship only (leaving anti-Chlarkers out for the moment)--view the relevant aspects of this issue that are external to the story. Those who support romance would tend to think (or so I believe) that TPTB are deliberately holding back Chlark for contrived reasons (some of which I've given), while some of the friendship-only camp have justified their point of view that romance would ruin the friendship by citing the known end result: that Clark must fall in love with Lois Lane.

Now, there are enormous threads in the Theories & Speculation forum that already cover one possibility for those who support romance for Chlark, so I won't get into that here, but regardless, I think that Chlark absolutely trumps Superman/Lois Lane in any incarnation. The bottom line is that I want this story to develop as naturally as possible from where it has been set up today--which comprises over five years of development--and that's because I want the best story that can be scrounged from this show. It would take some guts, but as the old saying goes: no guts, no glory.

Wow, I totally agree.. I couldn't have said it better myself..

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I say: take the risk, AlMiles!!!
:D

Well dang, they've overkilled the Clana relationship.. us Chlarkers would like to see the risk that is Chlark taken and taken seriously and done properly!

svfan50

02-20-2007, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Rhoda123
Wow, I totally agree.. I couldn't have said it better myself..

Well dang, they've overkilled the Clana relationship.. us Chlarkers would like to see the risk that is Chlark taken and taken seriously and done properly!

Yeah.....take the risk...after all...Lana Lang was not included in the comics the 1st tiem they published..it was only after a while that they show her....Al-Miles could create history in the world of Superman....Chloe and Superman..!!!!

(but seriosly..i doubt it...they would give the same darn reason...our budget does not allow us....crap)

RPMSDB

02-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Of course I'd love for them to take the risk. However, we are talking about TPTB and I'm not so sure they will/would.

Anyway, there has been something about the final Chlark scene that has been baffling me. There is no doubt in my mind there was something so much more powerful, stronger, and intimate than friendship. Not only in what he said, but how he said it -- but mostly the zooming in on the arm grasp.

It finally dawned on me last night that Clark's bomb squad statement was not only a promise to protect her physically (which he has always done), but to be there for her mentally and emotionally.

I don't really think Clark has ever truly been there for in ths way before. Not on this level anyway. Sure, he's been there for her as a friend, but he has shared a very limited mental and emotional relationship with her which has ALWAYS been tied into Lana.

I think that's why him not mentioning Lana at this time at all spoke volumes.

Khyla

02-20-2007, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by RPMSDB

There has been something about the final Chlark scene that has been baffling me. There is no doubt in my mind there was something so much more powerful, stronger, and intimate than friendship. Not only in what he said, but how he said it -- but mostly the zooming in on the arm grasp. i think we all have been thinking about the profoundness of his statement. it definitely sounded like a commitment to her ON ALL LEVELS ... like he is never going to leave her side, he'll be there for her whenever she needs him, no matter what it might be.

"MUST BE A HIGHER LOVE!"
:)

chlark=destiny

02-20-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by RPMSDB
TPTB do have the ability to let Chlark happen. However, it is a HUGE risk. They are fully aware that the Chlark dynamic works. But to take the risk of making it more than just friends is something they cannot and will not take lightly. IF they do decide to go that route, it has to been done at the right time, and in the right way. Once they cross that line (that is IF they do) there is no going back. They risk losing some of their audience and they know it. This has been true for many TV shows, L&C is a good example – once Clois hooked up, the fans’ wishes had been fulfilled and there wasn’t much left for them to look forward to.

Yes, I know there are many people who do watch SV to see Clark’s journey into Superman, including hooking up with Lois. However, there are plenty of people who do not watch it because of that. Believe it or not, people actually enjoy this program because it is an intriguing journey to watch.

I do agree with you to a point; most of us do what a CHLARK romance, but we all want it to be done the right way, just like you said. Jimmy and Lana cannot be OBSTACLES, and Clark has to completely open his heart to Chloe. I know that there is a risk, BUT sometimes you have to make sacrifices. Sometimes a friendship that blossoms into a romance works, and sometimes it doesn't. BUT until CHLARK takes that risk, they'll never know how the other TRULY feels. So, the best way for them to *explore* their feelings is through a romance. ALSO, I undersatnd why Al and Miles are so hesitant in allowing a CHLARK romance, BUT they could also risk losing viewers IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO EXPLORE A CHLARK ROMANCE. Either way, some viewers may be unhappy :rolleyes:

InLove_with_Chloe

02-21-2007, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by RPMSDB
Anyway, there has been something about the final Chlark scene that has been baffling me. There is no doubt in my mind there was something so much more powerful, stronger, and intimate than friendship. Not only in what he said, but how he said it -- but mostly the zooming in on the arm grasp.
Sorry to be such a pain, but as much as I enjoyed that scene, from a director's standpoint I simply can't help feeling that the arm-grasp was to symbolize one thing, and one thing only: friendship, but not romance....

I mean, there were at least two epis now recently, where we should have gotten a Chlark kiss ('Labyrinth' and 'Freak'...), but what do they give us? Nada... I think TPTB are extremely careful about showing us romantic Chlark gestures, maybe cause they really don't wanna go there, I dunno. Judging from how much they love Ch(l)immy, they might have high hope for that ship.
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svfan50

02-21-2007, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Sorry to be such a pain, but as much as I enjoyed that scene, from a director's standpoint I simply can't help feeling that the arm-grasp was to symbolize one thing, and one thing only: friendship, but not romance....

I mean, there were at least two epis now recently, where we should have gotten a Chlark kiss ('Labyrinth' and 'Freak'...), but what do they give us? Nada... I think TPTB are extremely careful about showing us romantic Chlark gestures, maybe cause they really don't wanna go there, I dunno. Judging from how much they love Ch(l)immy, they might have high hope for that ship.
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As much as I hate this fact...it still is a fact.....I dont think TPTB would go through and link them romantically...!!!!! And true said....the scene at the end of Freak..it was more of a friend promise than something more...

Khyla

02-21-2007, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Sorry to be such a pain, but as much as I enjoyed that scene, from a director's standpoint I simply can't help feeling that the arm-grasp was to symbolize one thing, and one thing only: friendship, but not romance....

I mean, there were at least two epis now recently, where we should have gotten a Chlark kiss ('Labyrinth' and 'Freak'...), but what do they give us? Nada... I think TPTB are extremely careful about showing us romantic Chlark gestures, maybe cause they really don't wanna go there, I dunno. Judging from how much they love Ch(l)immy, they might have high hope for that ship.
:\ yes they have been making the CHlimmy ship appear deeper btw both, and i tend to think it's to provide more of a drawn out Chlimmy break up and thus more confused feelings btw CHlark. IMO Clark's delay in showing more to CHloe is both denial and the JO... and the denial part is starting to meltdown. :)

Regardless, his statement as he holds her arm : "Then consider me your own personal bomb squad.", tells me they're only gonna be closer than ever! :)

Rhoda123

02-21-2007, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by Khyla
Regardless, his statement as he holds her arm : "Then consider me your own personal bomb squad.", tells me they're only gonna be closer than ever! :)

Khyla: I hope and pray you are right....

InLove_with_Chloe

02-21-2007, 06:56 AM

D.M.A.

02-21-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Khyla
yes they have been making the CHlimmy ship appear deeper btw both, and i tend to think it's to provide more of a drawn out Chlimmy break up and thus more confused feelings btw CHlark. IMO Clark's delay in showing more to CHloe is both denial and the JO... and the denial part is starting to meltdown. :)

Regardless, his statement as he holds her arm : "Then consider me your own personal bomb squad.", tells me they're only gonna be closer than ever! :)
I agree,clark's denial is startin to break down...He's lost her in lab,been confused about his feelings in lab/crimson then worried she might have been dead or die in freak.Plus this isn't includin how things play out in progeny,so I do think his denial is startin to fall apart.He's startin to show how much she means to him slowly,he's still alil confused about how he feels exactly for her but I'm bettin he's startin to see its not jus friendship wise.As for chlimmy gettin deeper I dont kno,she can only say "I like u 2" :lol: and is mostly cuttin off his embraces so who knows.I do agree they keep goin back to chlimmy to stretch out chlark sum more,cause tptb have this crazy idea that chloe alone would mean pinin which isn't true.They could have shown her split wit jimmy in crimson and jus had her back off from clark for awhile,but instead they r keepin her wit photoboy til clark moves on from lana.I do think they r goin to get closer tho and we will see more bondin moments like the DP scene in freak.And I expect to see clark's feelings for both girls comeout soon wit hopefully him movin on(From lana/only becomin friends)and realizin he feels sumthin more(for chloe)

InLove_with_Chloe

02-23-2007, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by D.M.A.
And I expect to see clark's feelings for both girls comeout soon wit hopefully him movin on(From lana/only becomin friends)and realizin he feels sumthin more(for chloe)
I can't wait...
:)

KryptonScouse

02-23-2007, 08:08 AM

Ditto, Chlark is the only relationship that has a certain feel of realism to it.

I mean, come on... Who would you rather have? The cute blonde who loves you more than anything, she's willing to do ANYTHING to protect you. Oh, and she's funny.

Or would you rather have the dull brunette who's only really out to find out about you. Even to the extent of stalking. Oh, and she ISN'T funny.

Chlark is Clark's future, Lois can go away. Lana can just move to Granville or something....

That leaves Chloe and Clark to explore their feelings in more depth. This, IMO would boost up Season 6/7 SOOOOOO much!

I dunno what it is either, whenever Clark and Chloe get a real good Chlark moment, I get chills. That never, EVER happens with anyone else Clark has been with, or interacts with, (besides chris reeve, but that was different).

InLove_with_Chloe

02-24-2007, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by KryptonScouse
Chlark is Clark's future, Lois can go away. Lana can just move to Granville or something....
You said it.
:)

John L. Nerone

02-24-2007, 12:11 PM

I see we have alot of Chloe fan's, wanting Chloe and Clark to get together. Sadly for you all, it will never happen. Chloe is a great character, but she is not meant for Clark. And neither is Lana.
That's why both will not end up with Clark. But they help Clark grow as a person. With Chloe he learns the value of Real and True Friendship. With Lana, it was his first Love interest as a teen. We learn alot from our first loves, as Clark will, and it will help him put Childhood Love aside, and realize what he is really looking for. And he will find it with Lois, in time.
In Freak, the writers are finally letting the true feelings of Jimmy and Chloe come out, and Chloe finally realizes she has true feelings for Jimmy, which will allow her to move on, and let go of Clark in a romantic way, and become a better friend and Ally to him. This is a growing period for all the characters.

Khyla

02-24-2007, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by KryptonScouse
Ditto, Chlark is the only relationship that has a certain feel of realism to it.
[...]
I dunno what it is either, whenever Clark and Chloe get a real good Chlark moment, I get chills. That never, EVER happens with anyone else Clark has been with, or interacts with, (besides chris reeve, but that was different). I know what you mean about the chills ;) :)

--- it's cause we're watching this loving and superhuman extra terrestrial being discovering his true soulmate here on earth! :)
(and the chemistry between TW and AM only adds to it! :) )

John L. Nerone

02-24-2007, 04:46 PM

Your right , when you say there relationship as friends seems the most real, and for now it is. But so is Lois and Clark's relationship. It's funny how they started them out, to where they could barely stand each other, to arguing like brother and sister, to becoming real friends. Soon it will go to the next level, and like in real life, it's funny, most of the time, the one's we think we have the least in common with, and can barely stand. Turn out to be the one you love so much, you wonder how you ever lived without them.
Such will be the case with Lois and Clark. If you have all the Smallville seasons on DVD go back and watch them. As the seasons go by their deep feelings for each other are drawing closer. Like when Lois is injured by the father of the little girl who can control glass. Clark is at Lois's side in the hospital, and without thinking, he reveals his deep caring for her when he takes her hand and holds it. In Crimson, Lois looks at him in a different way when he hands her the White Snake CD she made for him.
There are so many more hints throughout the seasons 4 and 5 and new season 6, you just have to look closer.
As for Chloe, I think she has finally found her true Love in Jimmy, as displayed in Freak. And I think they both work well together. I'm glad the writers gave her a good guy, because she's a good person.

Chloe's destiny

02-24-2007, 10:11 PM

Excuse me, but I don't see any of those mutual feelings btw Jiimmy and Chloe, you're talking about.
I just have the tought, jimmy isn't in the same level Clark and Chloe. They're fighting the good fight and jimmy don't undestand at all. Each one of them could offer his life for the other and you can't buy it in anywhere.
Destiny will call both two and they must confront it with frienfship, faith, power & love.

John L. Nerone

02-24-2007, 10:44 PM

If you watch Trespass again, if you taped it. You'll learn you are wrong about Jimmy and Chloe not having Mutual feelings for each other that are turning to Love. In the Daily Planet newsroom, Clark is with Chloe, when Jimmy comes in. Clark leaves to give them time to talk, and Jimmy Looks at Chloe and say's about Clark " He's not such a bad guy !! And Chloe looks into Jimmy's eye's and say's Yeah !! But he's no Jimmy Olsen !! Then they hug and kiss, and Chloe's and Jimmy's faces are both beaming with happiness. You must have missed that scene. Get your tape out and watch it, you'll see I'm right.
Jimmy may not have the powers or looks or be in the same league as Clark. But that doesn't mean Chloe can't fall in Love with him. She isn't that shallow a character.
And the true fact of the matter is, no matter how much you would like Chloe and Clark to get together, it won't happen.
DC Comics won't let it happen, because in their universe they created 69 years ago, Lois is Superman's future Love Interest and true Love. But Chloe is a wonderful character, and I am happy the writers gave her someone who loves her for herself, and put's her first. And to use a main character like the kind hearted fun loving Jimmy Olsen is wonderful.
" Trespass " put into cement that Chloe and Jimmy have True and mutual feelings for each other, and that Chloe thinks very highly of him, to place him above Clark. Watch the show and see what I mean.
As for destiny, that's a road Clark and Lois will cross in time, when they discover their true feeling for each other.

thedarknight

02-25-2007, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by John L. Nerone
If you watch Trespass again, if you taped it. You'll learn you are wrong about Jimmy and Chloe not having Mutual feelings for each other that are turning to Love. In the Daily Planet newsroom, Clark is with Chloe, when Jimmy comes in. Clark leaves to give them time to talk, and Jimmy Looks at Chloe and say's about Clark " He's not such a bad guy !! And Chloe looks into Jimmy's eye's and say's Yeah !! But he's no Jimmy Olsen !! Then they hug and kiss, and Chloe's and Jimmy's faces are both beaming with happiness. You must have missed that scene. Get your tape out and watch it, you'll see I'm right.
Jimmy may not have the powers or looks or be in the same league as Clark. But that doesn't mean Chloe can't fall in Love with him. She isn't that shallow a character.
And the true fact of the matter is, no matter how much you would like Chloe and Clark to get together, it won't happen.
DC Comics won't let it happen, because in their universe they created 69 years ago, Lois is Superman's future Love Interest and true Love. But Chloe is a wonderful character, and I am happy the writers gave her someone who loves her for herself, and put's her first. And to use a main character like the kind hearted fun loving Jimmy Olsen is wonderful.
" Trespass " put into cement that Chloe and Jimmy have True and mutual feelings for each other, and that Chloe thinks very highly of him, to place him above Clark. Watch the show and see what I mean.
As for destiny, that's a road Clark and Lois will cross in time, when they discover their true feeling for each other.

I agree with you. Chlark will never happen. Lana is Clark's past and Lois is his future. There is no time for Chloe, at least on a romantic level. His relationship with Chloe is more like Batman and Robin.

svfan50

02-25-2007, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by John L. Nerone
If you watch Trespass again, if you taped it. You'll learn you are wrong about Jimmy and Chloe not having Mutual feelings for each other that are turning to Love. In the Daily Planet newsroom, Clark is with Chloe, when Jimmy comes in. Clark leaves to give them time to talk, and Jimmy Looks at Chloe and say's about Clark " He's not such a bad guy !! And Chloe looks into Jimmy's eye's and say's Yeah !! But he's no Jimmy Olsen !! Then they hug and kiss, and Chloe's and Jimmy's faces are both beaming with happiness. You must have missed that scene. Get your tape out and watch it, you'll see I'm right.
Jimmy may not have the powers or looks or be in the same league as Clark. But that doesn't mean Chloe can't fall in Love with him. She isn't that shallow a character.
And the true fact of the matter is, no matter how much you would like Chloe and Clark to get together, it won't happen.
DC Comics won't let it happen, because in their universe they created 69 years ago, Lois is Superman's future Love Interest and true Love. But Chloe is a wonderful character, and I am happy the writers gave her someone who loves her for herself, and put's her first. And to use a main character like the kind hearted fun loving Jimmy Olsen is wonderful.
" Trespass " put into cement that Chloe and Jimmy have True and mutual feelings for each other, and that Chloe thinks very highly of him, to place him above Clark. Watch the show and see what I mean.
As for destiny, that's a road Clark and Lois will cross in time, when they discover their true feeling for each other.

I kinds agree...that the writers won't have Clark and Chloe happen....but I dont think Chlow and Jimmy would be a very nice idea.....Seriosly......Chloe deserves much better than Jimmy!!!!!! She is funny, sweet, good looking and intelligent woman...Jimmy is just another guy..she needs more than him!!!!!! If the producers wont have her with Clark because of the mytho......its sort-of fine.....but they shouldn't have her with Jimmy,.....they should give her something better...!!!!

Chloe's destiny

02-25-2007, 03:29 AM

OK, I could rewatch trespass and I see all you explain to me but that's simply a moment, I mean.
What can you tell me about Jimmy entering the apartment after the surgery or final scene clark supporting her.That's what the show is offering us since six season.Not every episodes, for sure, but the line of the writers is this.Chloe & Clark hiding theirs feelings but helping each other in all t destiny is preparing them.
We all see feelings btw Lois and Ollie and that dsn't implies she couldn't be Clark's soulmate, are her facts.

John L. Nerone

02-25-2007, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by thedarknight
I agree with you. Chlark will never happen. Lana is Clark's past and Lois is his future. There is no time for Chloe, at least on a romantic level. His relationship with Chloe is more like Batman and Robin.

Your right. They are kind of like the Batman and Robin team up. Clark adores Chloe, but more on the level of like a sister and Best Friend. But they make one great team don't they !! As shown in "Justice" and who better to have on your side, than your Best friend and someone you Trust Totally. And now with Jimmy as Chloe's love interest, Chloe can move on, without all the Romantic notion's of her and Clark anymore, and focus on helping Clark save the world one day at a time.

Khyla

02-25-2007, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by John L. Nerone
...Clark adores Chloe, but more on the level of like a sister and Best Friend. But they make one great team don't they !! As shown in "Justice" and who better to have on your side, than your Best friend and someone you Trust Totally. And now with Jimmy as Chloe's love interest, Chloe can move on, without all the Romantic notion's of her and Clark anymore, and focus on helping Clark save the world one day at a time. maybe it's just me, but i don't see how anyone who is at all aware of their own sex could possibly be that close with someone and work side by side with someone as hot as Chloe is and as hot as Clark is and not feel an attraction. :\

SteveS

02-25-2007, 07:18 PM

Just watched a deleted scene from "Tomb" where as ClarkMan spirits Chloe out of the hospital, she says something like "You're my hero." Nope, she didn't say anything akin to 'your're like a big brother to me" nor did she call him 'Bubba.'

Their bond has appeared mostly platonic on the show, but their attraction has nothing to do with being 'sister and Best Friend.'

John L. Nerone

02-25-2007, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by Khyla
maybe it's just me, but i don't see how anyone who is at all aware of their own sex could possibly be that close with someone and work side by side with someone as hot as Chloe is and as hot as Clark is and not feel an attraction. :\

I'll tell you a secret about that !! Alot of times it doesn't matter how good someone looks, everyone is born with an idea of the look and type of person they want, and if they meet a person in those guidelines they will see them in a different light, and be aware of the attraction. But if they don't, then it won't matter how beautiful or Charming the other person is, because they won't see more than a friend standing before them. Such is the case with Clark. Chloe doesn't have what he seeks in a woman, in the Romantic sense. But as a friend, he'll always be there for her. For the last 6 seasons, he has known Chloe has a thing for him, but chooses to ignore it, and focus solely on their friendship.
Because he isn't attracted to her. He had a closer attraction to Alicia in the few shows she was on, than all 6 seasons with Chloe.
If there's no attraction, Clark will never see her in that way no matter how hard she try's. So for Chloe, the only way to stay close to Clark is to remain his friend, so in that way she will always be a part of his life.

Khyla

02-26-2007, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by John L. Nerone
I'll tell you a secret about that... When I was younger and considerably immature, i would have agreed with you. But the years have made me much wiser now, and your "little secret" in my own experience does not hold up at all. I've seen people who held onto a certain "standard" only to find in the long run that when they really got to know that person they were not at all what they wanted or needed, not to mention their looks and demeanor changed as well, until they ended up hating each other, or at best tollerating each other.

I was one of the lucky ones, not getting hitched until a bit older and very happily to my best friend who in no way shape or form had in the beginning, resembled my idea of MY type, but strangely, the longer we were together and the more IN love we grew, the more he magically morphed into that type.

funny thing is, it never crossed my mind that i could be physically attracted to him until we happened one day to be packed into a car and my leg was tightly pushed up against his. I actually felt the sparks jumping between us! Reminds me a lot of Chloe and Clark.

We are soulmates and i could never see us separating. If someone had told me that when i first met him, i would have rolled my eyes and said "Yeah right, tell me anothe one!"

Rhoda123

02-26-2007, 06:43 AM

InLove_with_Chloe

02-26-2007, 07:31 AM

Khyla

02-26-2007, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
It is clear to me that Chlark has a lot to do with maturity. Emotional and romantic maturity. Of course I don't mean to imply that everyone who's against Chlark is immature.... sure ya do!.... admit it! :lol: and i would tend to agree.... :)

svfan50

02-26-2007, 08:55 AM

The last few posts have a lot to do with the fact that best friends might hook-up in the end....IMHO...those relationships are the best...and they tend to never be over....!!!! and almost in all such relationships...there is a common trend...!!!

The girl meets guy..there are a few sparks......things don't go well...and both end up on friends terms...become best friends...date other people and share lives with each other...at the end....final realization dawns that they are soul-mates..!!!! its a regualr pattern!!!

John L. Nerone

02-26-2007, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Khyla
When I was younger and considerably immature, i would have agreed with you. But the years have made me much wiser now, and your "little secret" in my own experience does not hold up at all. I've seen people who held onto a certain "standard" only to find in the long run that when they really got to know that person they were not at all what they wanted or needed, not to mention their looks and demeanor changed as well, until they ended up hating each other, or at best tollerating each other.

I was one of the lucky ones, not getting hitched until a bit older and very happily to my best friend who in no way shape or form had in the beginning, resembled my idea of MY type, but strangely, the longer we were together and the more IN love we grew, the more he magically morphed into that type.

funny thing is, it never crossed my mind that i could be physically attracted to him until we happened one day to be packed into a car and my leg was tightly pushed up against his. I actually felt the sparks jumping between us! Reminds me a lot of Chloe and Clark.

We are soulmates and i could never see us separating. If someone had told me that when i first met him, i would have rolled my eyes and said "Yeah right, tell me anothe one!"

Yes !! There are rare expections such as yours. And you are one of the lucky one's. With myself, working in the Music Industry for MTV as a Professional Photographer, I work along aside many many Beautiful women, and dated many outside the box of my Idea of my type, to keep an open mind. But in the end I ended up meeting my future wife while I was on assignment in Russia, and
amazingly enough, she was the type that I had searched for.
But it took me two years before I realized it, but we had stayed in contact by internet the entire time. We started as friends, just like Clark and Lois, not thinking we would ever be together,but in the end, that's what happened. And like you and your husband, I don't know how I lived without her so long ! LOL So I got Lucky too ! I found my hearts desire.
But we were both the types each had looked for, and work perfectly together. So we have gotten to see both sides of the Spectrum.
And with Clark and Chloe, it will never go farier than friendship.
Because as you and I both know, Lois is his Future, and True Love. They just don't know it yet LOL
But it looks as though they soon will ! From reading the latest Smallville magazine Titled Lover's Lane. Seems the writers will be bringing Lois and Clark ever closer to each other.
Being such a big fan of Superman comic's all my life, I already knew in advance it would turn out this way.
And I'm sure when it happens Chloe will accept it, and be happy that Clark will be apart of the family. Because the show is also going to increase the love affair with Jimmy and Chloe, so she finds happiness too, just like in your's and your husband wonderful story. Jimmy was not her type at all like you and your husband, but she found she could love him, and she learned, that, Clark wasn't the man for her after all. Jimmy was, all the time ! She just had to get past her feelings for Clark to finally see him ! LOL

SteveS

02-26-2007, 11:33 AM

Lots of guys work along the model of "Shallow Hal", wishfully ordering up body parts to customize the girl of their dreams. Some never outgrow it, like the 89 year old man who 'married' Anna Nicole. (no, it was not 'true love' of the person but of parts)

Khyla's example is something that I have tried to say using different words. Chloe is the whole package internally. A few minutes ago I was trying to think of a number of her bad character traits and couldn't come up with any. (I am sure some antis will try to resurrect a 'betrayal' of ClarkMan to Lionel but that is ancient history, forgiven and forgotten) So from my standpoint, if ClarkMan were to really think about all that Chloe offers as a personality, and this requires some wisdom that usually only time supplies, then she is vastly more appealling than her competition even if her legs are not as long or well-shaped as those of lois. It is what is on the inside that counts. I hope Kryptonians are smarter and wiser than Earth boys when it comes to this part of their lives.

John L. Nerone

02-26-2007, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by SteveS
Lots of guys work along the model of "Shallow Hal", wishfully ordering up body parts to customize the girl of their dreams. Some never outgrow it, like the 89 year old man who 'married' Anna Nicole. (no, it was not 'true love' of the person but of parts)

Khyla's example is something that I have tried to say using different words. Chloe is the whole package internally. A few minutes ago I was trying to think of a number of her bad character traits and couldn't come up with any. (I am sure some antis will try to resurrect a 'betrayal' of ClarkMan to Lionel but that is ancient history, forgiven and forgotten) So from my standpoint, if ClarkMan were to really think about all that Chloe offers as a personality, and this requires some wisdom that usually only time supplies, then she is vastly more appealling than her competition even if her legs are not as long or well-shaped as those of lois. It is what is on the inside that counts. I hope Kryptonians are smarter and wiser than Earth boys when it comes to this part of their lives.

I think you have misunderstood the point I was trying to make. When I meant we all look for a certain type of woman or man. It isn't about body part's or how someone is built. Though I did want to find a person with dark hair and olive skin LOL
It's about who they are inside. In my line of business I come across so many fakes and phonies, and Gold diggers because of what I do, I grew sick of it as I grew older. I wanted to find a life partner that had beauty within, that was about family and home, like Martha Kent. My wife is just a normal woman, who's beauty from within shines like a beautiful Star. She's nice to look at, but she isn't a Lois type. She's normal and that's why I love her so much. And she has all the wonderful gifts Martha Kent does, about putting family and home first. Not all men are Shallow Hal's as you put it. Some of us look for the Beauty within.
As for Clark, he won't see in Chloe what you wish him to see, because this is the Comicbook world, and they have to follow guidelines. In Real life, who know's what could have happened.
But one thing I know for sure with Clark, it isn't about body parts or leg's. He's a deeper person than that. Chloe is his Treasured friend, and friends are forever.
Chloe does have two bad Traits, being too nosey, and being jealous. Watch the first two seasons. In the forth season she does it again when Lois dunks Clark in a pool at a school carnival, and see's how Clark and Lois look at each other.
I think we all relate to certain characters on the show, I'm sure yours is Chloe. I relate more to Oliver Queen and Jonathan Kent. But I really admire your devotion to Chloe, you are a die hard fan like myself LOL
My wife on the other hand likes Lex LOL No accounting for taste I guess LOL She just likes the bad guy's because they are more interesting to her. But keep on being a Chloe fan and watching Smallville. Because I think it's the best show on the air !

John L. Nerone

02-26-2007, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by svfan50
The last few posts have a lot to do with the fact that best friends might hook-up in the end....IMHO...those relationships are the best...and they tend to never be over....!!!! and almost in all such relationships...there is a common trend...!!!

The girl meets guy..there are a few sparks......things don't go well...and both end up on friends terms...become best friends...date other people and share lives with each other...at the end....final realization dawns that they are soul-mates..!!!! its a regualr pattern!!!

You bring up an Important point. Relationships that last, are the one's where you were friends first. But deep down we still know inside ourselves what it is we really want from a person, that's why as you say, there are a few sparks, and things don't go well and you end up being friends. Sometimes the reason we date others, is to check ourselves to see what it is we really want.
And sometimes people do go back to that person with the few Sparks. But 90% of the time they don't. It's human nature.
But every relationship has to be worked on, on a daily basis in order for it to work, even with Best Friends, because all people change with time, and go in new directions.
The Chloe and Clark thing is more of a one sided relationship, where since season one Chloe has been in pursuit of Clark. And Clark looked at it a few times, but realized Chloe isn't what he wants in that way, but he wants her friendship always. It works like that in real life too. I think everyone at some point in their lifes has had a person Like Chloe, that wanted to get close, but for one reason or another, it didn't go farier than friends.
And on the flip side, I've seen Best friends in the world get together in real life and it didn't work out in the end, and they got divorced, and wished they had just remained friends.
It all depends on the indivual person in every relationship.
In the case of Smallville, we are dealing with Comicbook characters, and not real life. So in this world Clark is meant for Lois, so we already know Chloe doesn't have a chance.
Those of us who have followed Superman for many many years already know this. But Bringing Jimmy Olsen in gives Chloe a perfect match for herself. Both started as friends, that had the spark and walked away, and now years later fate has brought them back together again. Watch the Season opener on season 6 which proves my point. So you see you are right, you just picked the wrong person. Jimmy's the one for Chloe not Clark.
1st show of season 6 shows that. When Chloe almost shoot's Jimmy. Listen to what he say's after that LOL

Khyla

02-27-2007, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by Rhoda123
Your "love" story sounds alot like mine. My husband and I were the best of friends for over a year before anything even remotely romantic happened and then it was like a lightning bolt hit us both!! I think Chlark could and should happen. Awww! that's cool! :) See! Life is just full of surprises! :)

Originally posted by Chloe's destiny
Excuse me, but I don't see any of those mutual feelings btw Jiimmy and Chloe, you're talking about.
I just have the tought, jimmy isn't in the same level Clark and Chloe. They're fighting the good fight and jimmy don't undestand at all. Each one of them could offer his life for the other and you can't buy it in anywhere.

Destiny will call both two and they must confront it with frienfship, faith, power & love.

Originally posted by Chloe's destiny
OK, I could rewatch trespass and I see all you explain to me but that's simply a moment, I mean.
What can you tell me about Jimmy entering the apartment after the surgery or final scene clark supporting her.That's what the show is offering ...

Not every episodes, for sure, but the line of the writers is this.Chloe & Clark hiding theirs feelings but helping each other in all t destiny is preparing them.

We all see feelings btw Lois and Ollie and that [] implies she couldn't be Clark's soulmate, are her facts.
[/B] two excellent posts by you, Chloe's destiny l! sorry i missed commenting on them earlier :(

What you say here pretty much explains that THE WRITERS HAVE BEEN TELLING US: "Freak" and the future IS ALL ABOUT CHLARK

John L. Nerone

02-27-2007, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Khyla
Awww! that's cool! :) See! Life is just full of surprises! :)

two excellent posts by you, Chloe's destiny l! sorry i missed commenting on them earlier :(

What you say here pretty much explains that THE WRITERS HAVE BEEN TELLING US: "Freak" and the future IS ALL ABOUT CHLARK

Remember Chloe had a mind wipe, so we don't know how far back they wiped her mind, which would explain her reaction in freak. But Trespass, did clearly show Chloe's feelings for Jimmy.
Chloe fan's are sure die hard LOL But look at reality this isn't the real world, it's the DC Comics world. So the Clark Chloe hook up you all pray for isn't going to happen. Read Smallville Magazine Lover's Lane that's out on the new's stands now. Lois is the future. Go back and watch all the old cartoons from the 40's all the Chris Reeve Movies, The Lois and Clark Series, The 1950's George Reeves Superman series, and the Kirk Allen Superman Series it's all about Lois and Clark. No mention of Chloe what so ever. Because until Smallville, the character Chloe never existed.
Chloe is a good character and I like her as well, and she is a welcome new character to the DC Universe. But Clark and Her will never hook up. DC Comics has already made that clear to the writers of Smallville. And Lois will become ever closer to Clark as the Season 6 goes on, and even more so in season 7.
We can't change destiny, just because we personally prefer another character. I thought Ollie and Lois were great together, but I knew it wouldn't last, Because I know in advance what the DC Comics Universe holds in store for Clark and Lois.
So quite frankly it surprises me, that so many will argue the point and not look at the reality of where the show is heading.
For the people who hang onto the notion the Chloe and Clark will get together and live happily ever after, your all in for a Rude awakening and big disapointment. It's not my choice how the show goes or yours. It's Dc Comics world, and they don't want Chloe as a love interst for Clark, they want Lois, and have for 69 years !!

Originally posted by Khyla
Awww! that's cool! :) See! Life is just full of surprises! :)

two excellent posts by you, Chloe's destiny l! sorry i missed commenting on them earlier :(

What you say here pretty much explains that THE WRITERS HAVE BEEN TELLING US: "Freak" and the future IS ALL ABOUT CHLARK

One more thing. while it's true Chloe is hiding her feeling for Clark, Clark doesn't have any Romantic hidden feelings for Chloe.
Chloe is the one that pursues Clark. Watch Season's one and two. Chloe's jealous rages at times became alittle on the non normal side, to the point Lana and Clark were worried about telling her they were together. Another time she had her rage in the Talon, over Clark forgetting about her to help Lana, causing Clark to quit the Torch. Then we have the moment Clark confronts Chloe with the fact that everytime he's with Lana and Chloe see's them together she acts as though Clark was cheating on her.
Not to forget to mention, how much trouble she caused Clark, by researching his adoption behind his back. With Chloe it's wishful, hopeful thinking, but totally one sided. In real life we would be frightened by someone who has done the things Chloe has. But this is fantasy, so all can be forgotten, by the next show as one person put it. And she did betray Clark to Lionel in a fit of Jealous rage, when she learned of him and Lana getting together.
Jealousy is one of Chloe's poor points, but she shows it over and over, in every season. The facts are in front of you, you simply choose to ignore it. There is no mutual hidden feeling with Chloe and Clark. Chloe is the only one with that issue. Don't mistake friendship for something more, because Clark doesn't, and neither do the writers of the show. Like it or not, Lois is the one that will be with Clark. Don't create something that isn't there just because you personally relate to the Chloe character, and want it to happen so bad that you create illusions in your own mind. The History of Superman is in Stone, they won't change their Universe and movie and TV and comicbook History. They will stay true to the Universe they created. We all have no say in it.
We just get to watch and enjoy the show, and learn to adore all the characters on a weekly basis.

Mr. Wrong

02-27-2007, 12:56 PM

Chloe is Clark's best friend. Best friends are possessive and Chloe has made it known that she has had a romantic interest in Clark in the past but she has not showed any renewing of that interest since ZOD. Other than kissing Lois, CK hasn't had any action in over a year so he would have to be a eunich not to be open to an opportunity with the one person he can feel most comfortable with. I think Bart said it best in Justice: " she's Chloelicious". Timing is everything and quite often we find ourselves on a different emotional plane from that of the target of our affections. CK has been interested in Chloe since Zod but he has acknowledged her relationship with Jimmy and that is why he has renewed his focus on Lana.

John L. Nerone

02-27-2007, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
Chloe is Clark's best friend. Best friends are possessive and Chloe has made it known that she has had a romantic interest in Clark in the past but she has not showed any renewing of that interest since ZOD. Other than kissing Lois, CK hasn't had any action in over a year so he would have to be a eunich not to be open to an opportunity with the one person he can feel most comfortable with. I think Bart said it best in Justice: " she's Chloelicious". Timing is everything and quite often we find ourselves on a different emotional plane from that of the target of our affections. CK has been interested in Chloe since Zod but he has acknowledged her relationship with Jimmy and that is why he has renewed his focus on Lana.

Boy !! You sure are determined to not see reality ! LOL I agree with you that Chloe and Clark are best friends, but possessive is the same as Obsessed, and Obsession is one sided and can be ruled by Jealousy as Chloe as shown over and over again, in many of the Seasons. What you are missing here is, the writers aren't ever going to bring Chloe and Clark together. Under any circumstances, because they are setting the stage for Lois and Clark. To believe anything different, is an illusion on your part.
Let us not forget, these characters Clark and Lois are meant for each other, and have been for the last 69 years, and I know first hand! That fact won't change. But I am curious as to why you don't want to accept that fact ? Is it because you so closely see yourself as a Chloe type, therefore because of that fact you want her to be with Clark very Badly?? Dear ! These are merely characters from comicbooks, with their futures already written by the writers of DC Comics, they aren't going to change Multi Million dollar a year Characters love interest's, merely to suit a few Chloe fan's who relate to the character.
Please read what the writers are doing with Clark and Lois's Relationship in the current Issue of Smallville " Lover's Lane.
They lay out how they are developing Lois and Clark's relationship, putting them close and pulling away, close again, then away to build up excitement. But they are going to come to realize, that the Mutual attraction and sparks they have towards each other, that they have so far pushed away, while becoming closer friends, is the tying in point that will finally bring Lois and Clark to realize, that the last person in the world they thought they would be with ( Each Other ) was always the one they were meant to be with. And the writers are doing an excellent job of it.
So let go of the illusion that Clark and Chloe will ever be together, and be happy for the fact Chloe now has Jimmy, and she can finally get over her obsession with Clark, and be a better friend to him.
Because the writers are going that way even if you don't like it, because they have to follow DC Comics Guidelines of their Characters. Sad for you, and all the Chloe Fan's, but it's True !
So get over it and just enjoy the Show as we all do ! Because their History is already written, so we all know how it's turns out in the long run.

greysfan511

02-27-2007, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by John L. Nerone
Boy !! You sure are determined to not see reality ! LOL I agree with you that Chloe and Clark are best friends, but possessive is the same as Obsessed, and Obsession is one sided and can be ruled by Jealousy as Chloe as shown over and over again, in many of the Seasons. What you are missing here is, the writers aren't ever going to bring Chloe and Clark together. Under any circumstances, because they are setting the stage for Lois and Clark. To believe anything different, is an illusion on your part.
Let us not forget, these characters Clark and Lois are meant for each other, and have been for the last 69 years, and I know first hand! That fact won't change. But I am curious as to why you don't want to accept that fact ? Is it because you so closely see yourself as a Chloe type, therefore because of that fact you want her to be with Clark very Badly?? Dear ! These are merely characters from comicbooks, with their futures already written by the writers of DC Comics, they aren't going to change Multi Million dollar a year Characters love interest's, merely to suit a few Chloe fan's who relate to the character.
Please read what the writers are doing with Clark and Lois's Relationship in the current Issue of Smallville " Lover's Lane.
They lay out how they are developing Lois and Clark's relationship, putting them close and pulling away, close again, then away to build up excitement. But they are going to come to realize, that the Mutual attraction and sparks they have towards each other, that they have so far pushed away, while becoming closer friends, is the tying in point that will finally bring Lois and Clark to realize, that the last person in the world they thought they would be with ( Each Other ) was always the one they were meant to be with. And the writers are doing an excellent job of it.
So let go of the illusion that Clark and Chloe will ever be together, and be happy for the fact Chloe now has Jimmy, and she can finally get over her obsession with Clark, and be a better friend to him.
Because the writers are going that way even if you don't like it, because they have to follow DC Comics Guidelines of their Characters. Sad for you, and all the Chloe Fan's, but it's True !
So get over it and just enjoy the Show as we all do ! Because their History is already written, so we all know how it's turns out in the long run.

I compleatly agree with you!! Hello agian! Chloe fans that are hopefuls for the Chloe and Clark romance...keep dreaming!! Because it's not gonna happen. The writers are moving away from the story of Clark being a boy and turning him into a man. The highschool cruch Chloe has had on Clark forever is in the past. So kudos for you and me for seeing the real truth that lies within the walls of Smallville.

Khyla

02-27-2007, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
real truth that lies within the walls of Smallville. Ah ha!, ya see that's the key!!!

[the following sentence here is made up but for the sake of getting my point across:]
I'm sorry, but i havent a clue what you're talking about since i have never heard of or read any comics or seen any "Superman" movies; i mean, who is Superman?

I only know what i know from watching the TV show called Smallville. You say Clark is Lois' friend??? Jeez, where have i been? I've never even seen her call him on the phone, or him call her. I've never seen them hanging out together either, except for when she just happened to be there because she was living at the Kents. I did see some sexual attraction there when they both happened to be at that strip club... but your telling me they look to you like they are becoming the best of friends? From what you've seen on Smallville they look like they are becoming lovers and will get married?? :confused:

I do see Clark running off to find Chloe or having her come over, any time he needs advice, help, or just wants to hang out,. He is always seeking her out, and we don't see her seeking him out so much,... Also it noticeably bothers him that he's sharing her with someone else now, but her happiness seems very important to him.

None of this is stuff i made up in my head.. It's what the writers have chosen to show to me.
i only base my opinions on what i have seen and what the writers have given us within the walls on Smallville, and ONLY within the walls of Smallville!!

(i'm obviously not alone in this since this poll here shows @ 75% who viewed "Freak" say that they got CHlark out of it; either as much as they'd hoped for or they wished there was even more.)

laughingjellybean

02-27-2007, 10:19 PM

ahh. i did not see any chlark. or at least, not enough to make me at all happy. :( i want to see some chlark! gawsh.

D.M.A.

02-28-2007, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
Timing is everything and quite often we find ourselves on a different emotional plane from that of the target of our affections. CK has been interested in Chloe since Zod but he has acknowledged her relationship with Jimmy and that is why he has renewed his focus on Lana.
I agree,I think it was obvious they were buildin chlark up all thru s5 which lead to the vessel kiss.And it fit the moment,the timin was jus right...In Zod,clark cameback from the PZ/fightin Zod yet wanted to work things out wit chloe.Chloe bein the voice of reason brushed it off not knowin that clark truly wanted more.The Timin was off,cause clark was reboundin from lana(Who he jus found out 2 epi's before was datin lex)and jus went thru hell wit Zod.Plus she's never known clark to look at her that way so she played it safe and went wit the safe choice jimmy.I agree clark has wanted more from chloe since the premiere...Zod/Sneeze/Wither show this imo,but as u stated its only when clark starts to accept that she's datin jimmy when he starts wantin to pursue lana again sadly :mad: .Its also why I feel like he has to move on from lana,cause he cant use her as an escape from other things.Instead of processin his feelings for chloe he decides its better to chase lana,that has to stop soon.Plus both clark/chloe need to resolve their tension from vessel/zod cause its there in all of their scenes...They both want sumthin more but think the other isn't interested

svfan50

02-28-2007, 12:52 PM

greysfan511

02-28-2007, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Khyla
Ah ha!, ya see that's the key!!!

[the following sentence here is made up but for the sake of getting my point across:]
I'm sorry, but i havent a clue what you're talking about since i have never heard of or read any comics or seen any "Superman" movies; i mean, who is Superman?

I only know what i know from watching the TV show called Smallville. You say Clark is Lois' friend??? Jeez, where have i been? I've never even seen her call him on the phone, or him call her. I've never seen them hanging out together either, except for when she just happened to be there because she was living at the Kents. I did see some sexual attraction there when they both happened to be at that strip club... but your telling me they look to you like they are becoming the best of friends? From what you've seen on Smallville they look like they are becoming lovers and will get married?? :confused:

I do see Clark running off to find Chloe or having her come over, any time he needs advice, help, or just wants to hang out,. He is always seeking her out, and we don't see her seeking him out so much,... Also it noticeably bothers him that he's sharing her with someone else now, but her happiness seems very important to him.

None of this is stuff i made up in my head.. It's what the writers have chosen to show to me.
i only base my opinions on what i have seen and what the writers have given us within the walls on Smallville, and ONLY within the walls of Smallville!!

(i'm obviously not alone in this since this poll here shows @ 75% who viewed "Freak" say that they got CHlark out of it; either as much as they'd hoped for or they wished there was even more.)

I didnt write that Lois and Clark were just friends, so your seeing things. READ MY MESSAGE AGIAN!!! I never even said anything about Lois and Clark. GIVE UP!!!!! Chloe and Clark are NEVER going to be together!!!! You people who want Smallville to change just for you are dreaming!!!! Just cause you all want ti doesnt mean it's gonna happen!!!! And, yes Clark might be jelous but when has he not been. Even when the a relashinship hasn't been serious he is STILL bugged. Chloe will always love Clark but as Smallville has shown over and over he DOESN'T see her that way!!!!! I can't wait for all the Chlark fans to see their world come crashing down when the TRUE story of Superman plays out!!! Also Chloe was NEVER in the comic books OR the movies!! Keep up on your stuff. Don't tell me I'm wrong when I know how the story plays out. Clark and Lois are destined to be together not Chloe and Clark. Once agian in my post I NEVER mentioned that Loid and Clark were just friends.

Originally posted by svfan50
U said it!!!!!!

John...we don't care what happens when Clark becomes Superman and flies over Metropolis...atleast I dont care..as Tom Welling is certainly not going to do that.......I just care about Smallville....which is not Superman!!!!! Charecters can hook-up and break-up. A hook-up doesn't mean marraige for lifetime. Al us Chlark fans just want Chloe and Clark to hook up for a while...!!!! As simple as that.......As as Khyla said...within the walls of Smallville.....and nobody can blame us.....we know Chloe, Clark, Lois, Lana and Lex...we are not aware of Superman, Clark Kent the geek working with Lois Lane, one of the world's top reporters in the Daily Planet and Jimmy being their buddy!!! We are simply hopeing for one of the triangles to disintegrate and become a pair we have always wished for....!!!!!! Thats it!!!!

Well keep hoping cause it's not gonna happen. Smallvile is moving away from the silly, high school crush that chloe has always had on clark. They are moving to make him into a man, and slowly moving to his destiny. As for Smallville being Smallville, it's based off how superman was before the cape. It's also based on the earlier comic books. So fas so good, they've followed it pretty well. Your lucky you even have Chloe cause she wasn't even in the comics.

Mr. Wrong

03-01-2007, 12:48 PM

Mr. Lerone,
Why do you say I am determined not to see reality? I see nothing in your statement that points out in what manner I'm fantasizing. I do note however that you seem to have missed all of the differing avenues that TPTB have taking in regard to the original Superman story. There was no coupling with Lana in the biblical sense with Clark, nor was there a coupling between Lex and Lana, or any mention of a Chloe, Pete, a teenage Lois or pre. DP Perry White or Jimmy Olsen. Just a few strings TPTB have injected into SV to re-invent a hero for the 21st century. All bets are off as to what is inevitable and what is not! I personally hope that they somehow consolidate the story lines in order to return to the canon of D.C. lore. P.S. In case you hadn't noticed, SV has little to do with reality so lines may be a bit vague for an oldtimer like me!

PhotoStarz

03-01-2007, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by svfan50
U said it!!!!!!

John...we don't care what happens when Clark becomes Superman and flies over Metropolis...atleast I dont care..as Tom Welling is certainly not going to do that.......I just care about Smallville....which is not Superman!!!!! Charecters can hook-up and break-up. A hook-up doesn't mean marraige for lifetime. Al us Chlark fans just want Chloe and Clark to hook up for a while...!!!! As simple as that.......As as Khyla said...within the walls of Smallville.....and nobody can blame us.....we know Chloe, Clark, Lois, Lana and Lex...we are not aware of Superman, Clark Kent the geek working with Lois Lane, one of the world's top reporters in the Daily Planet and Jimmy being their buddy!!! We are simply hopeing for one of the triangles to disintegrate and become a pair we have always wished for....!!!!!! Thats it!!!!

This Message is to Khyla & svfan50

Khyla & svfan50, your problem is your not accepting, the reality right in front of you.As you put it.
You know nothing about Superman or the Young Clark Kent, accept from Smallville. Basing your thoughts solely off what you have seen, again on Smallville. But for all the True Fan's of both
Clark Kent, young and Old, and Superman. We were devoted enough Fan's to know the whole story behind the Young Clark Kent, who one day becomes The Man of Steel.
Who is Superman you ask ? Clark Kent ! Weve seen 6 Seasons now, of him displaying his powers,and yet you act like you still don't know LOL Or is it that you choose not to see it ?
Clark Kent already is Superman on Smallville, he just hasn't doned the Cape yet. Before you quote your Theory's, it's best that you know the whole History of the Charatcer and show it based from.
You show by your own words, you have limited awareness, and yet you talk like you know everything about Clark Kent and the Superman Saga, and yet you know hardly anything. Because
if you knew the whole story, and had watched the movies and TV series, you'd understand, what it is that Myself and Greysfan511 have been trying to explain to you, and a few others.
You don't want to see it, because you think of yourself as Chloe, I figured that out fairly quick, from your responces. And you want Clark to be with Chloe, so you and other's can feel like you have
Clark as well, because you so closely view yourself as a Chloe type. A little Strange !
Smallville for your information, is the story of Clark Kent, when he is young, based off...
Jeff East's performance in Superman ( the first movie ) If you knew the History which both of you don't !! Then you would realize Smallville is following that History to the letter.
Before you go arguing your point, You really need to know all the facts. Reading everything you all have posted, I see the limited awareness, and focus on one character ( Chloe )

The writers are moving towards bringing Lois and Clark closer together as the Season goes on, next Season as well. Maybe if you had watched some of those movies and read some of the books you'd understand this. The Chloe character has been obsessed with Clark through out, every season, hiding behide the mask of friendship. And as we have seen, in many of the shows if things don't go the way she wants them too, Jealousy consumes her, she betrays Clark to Lionel. Tried to wreck things for Clark and Lana. Took her anger out on Clark, to the point, Clark quit the Torch.
Disrespected the Friendship by probing into his adoption, after Clark asked her not too. Anytime they did kiss, it was Chloe doing the kissing, Clark never started it ( Except once under Red K ).
Clark isn't meant to be with Chloe. But I gather alot of the Chloe fan's would like to see a one night stand LOL Clark isn't the type to do a one night anything. He is a young man of Honor and
Intrigity, and morals and values. All the things True Fan's of Clark Kent and Superman Admire.
If you knew the History you'd understand. Smallville is about Superman. You just haven't figured that out yet ! Because rather than respect the History of the characters, you would rather wish
for a shallow meanless hook up, that leads to no where.
Clark Kent is Superman, The Young Superman at Present .

Addressing another issue....Clark doesn't always run off to Chloe to look to her for all advice !
He has done the same with Lois, many times. One example Saving for a bike and discovering you were really saving for a (Harley ) Martha Kent , and Lana until recently. He equally get's advice from all four women, Watch the shows and count. So Chloe isn't his only advice outlet.
Chloe, knows his secret because of Alicia. Did you all ever stop to think, about 3rd Season, when Clark has left home and he was under the influnce of Red K.? Obsessed Chloe found him. He was
free to act on his True feelings, if he had them for Chloe, and he acted as though he hated her.
If... as you said, feelings were there, it would have happened then. But it didn't ~!
Because Clark doesn't feel that way for her. Chloe may have the spark, but Clark doesn't ! And it takes two, with the same intense feelings to make it work. Not one !!
Chloe was totally Obsessed, till Jimmy came into the picture. Finally she is starting to be a real friend, the way her and Clark are suppose to be. With no romantic entanglements.
But still you wish for what is not there, for a quick hook up, As Svfan50 stated...Nothing long term !! You must be very young ! Only the very young would think that way. That statement
dishonors the Character Clark Kent and the man he will become.
I'd start reading and watching the movies and Tv series so you both can Truly understand who Clark Kent really is ! And gain respect for the character.
Then, you both would understand why a Clark/Chloe hook up that you both wish for, won't happen.
Clark lives by a higher standard, as proven through out all 6 Seasons of Smallville.
It would disgrace and dishonor the character that is Clark Kent, to engage in a shallow meaningless fling with Chloe. Plus as obsessed as Chloe is, if it did happen, she wouldn't recover from it !
Then who knows how far she would go to get Clark to stay with her, as she has proved in the past.
Through her Jealousy and Obsession with Clark.
DC Comics and the writers of the Smallville Series Understand this, so they won't go there.
That's why Jimmy has come into the picture, so that Chloe can finally be free of her Obsession with Clark, and move on, and be a real friend to Clark, that doesn't hide behind a mask of
emotions. And after the Lana and Lex storyline finishes, they will start bringing Lois and Clark ever closer to each other. Lois and Clark may not get together in Smallville, but they will form
the bond and friendship on the Show, that complete's the Future storyline, that will bring them together as a couple in the future. And a future I might point out that doesn't include Chloe !
But you'd know all this already, had you seen The movies or read any of the books. You limit yourselves, by not knowing all the facts. Smallville remains True to those facts.

To greysfan511 sorry it took so long to come in to defend you , my friend, I'm on a Photo assignment in LA right now, and away from my home computer, I somehow messed my site up LOL So I had to create a new one till they fix mine.
To your comments !! Well put my Friend ! Well Put !!

PhotoStarz

03-01-2007, 05:02 PM

greysfan511

03-01-2007, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
This Message is to Khyla & svfan50

Khyla & svfan50, your problem is your not accepting, the reality right in front of you.As you put it.
You know nothing about Superman or the Young Clark Kent, accept from Smallville. Basing your thoughts solely off what you have seen, again on Smallville. But for all the True Fan's of both
Clark Kent, young and Old, and Superman. We were devoted enough Fan's to know the whole story behind the Young Clark Kent, who one day becomes The Man of Steel.
Who is Superman you ask ? Clark Kent ! Weve seen 6 Seasons now, of him displaying his powers,and yet you act like you still don't know LOL Or is it that you choose not to see it ?
Clark Kent already is Superman on Smallville, he just hasn't doned the Cape yet. Before you quote your Theory's, it's best that you know the whole History of the Charatcer and show it based from.
You show by your own words, you have limited awareness, and yet you talk like you know everything about Clark Kent and the Superman Saga, and yet you know hardly anything. Because
if you knew the whole story, and had watched the movies and TV series, you'd understand, what it is that Myself and Greysfan511 have been trying to explain to you, and a few others.
You don't want to see it, because you think of yourself as Chloe, I figured that out fairly quick, from your responces. And you want Clark to be with Chloe, so you and other's can feel like you have
Clark as well, because you so closely view yourself as a Chloe type. A little Strange !
Smallville for your information, is the story of Clark Kent, when he is young, based off...
Jeff East's performance in Superman ( the first movie ) If you knew the History which both of you don't !! Then you would realize Smallville is following that History to the letter.
Before you go arguing your point, You really need to know all the facts. Reading everything you all have posted, I see the limited awareness, and focus on one character ( Chloe )

The writers are moving towards bringing Lois and Clark closer together as the Season goes on, next Season as well. Maybe if you had watched some of those movies and read some of the books you'd understand this. The Chloe character has been obsessed with Clark through out, every season, hiding behide the mask of friendship. And as we have seen, in many of the shows if things don't go the way she wants them too, Jealousy consumes her, she betrays Clark to Lionel. Tried to wreck things for Clark and Lana. Took her anger out on Clark, to the point, Clark quit the Torch.
Disrespected the Friendship by probing into his adoption, after Clark asked her not too. Anytime they did kiss, it was Chloe doing the kissing, Clark never started it ( Except once under Red K ).
Clark isn't meant to be with Chloe. But I gather alot of the Chloe fan's would like to see a one night stand LOL Clark isn't the type to do a one night anything. He is a young man of Honor and
Intrigity, and morals and values. All the things True Fan's of Clark Kent and Superman Admire.
If you knew the History you'd understand. Smallville is about Superman. You just haven't figured that out yet ! Because rather than respect the History of the characters, you would rather wish
for a shallow meanless hook up, that leads to no where.
Clark Kent is Superman, The Young Superman at Present .

Addressing another issue....Clark doesn't always run off to Chloe to look to her for all advice !
He has done the same with Lois, many times. One example Saving for a bike and discovering you were really saving for a (Harley ) Martha Kent , and Lana until recently. He equally get's advice from all four women, Watch the shows and count. So Chloe isn't his only advice outlet.
Chloe, knows his secret because of Alicia. Did you all ever stop to think, about 3rd Season, when Clark has left home and he was under the influnce of Red K.? Obsessed Chloe found him. He was
free to act on his True feelings, if he had them for Chloe, and he acted as though he hated her.
If... as you said, feelings were there, it would have happened then. But it didn't ~!
Because Clark doesn't feel that way for her. Chloe may have the spark, but Clark doesn't ! And it takes two, with the same intense feelings to make it work. Not one !!
Chloe was totally Obsessed, till Jimmy came into the picture. Finally she is starting to be a real friend, the way her and Clark are suppose to be. With no romantic entanglements.
But still you wish for what is not there, for a quick hook up, As Svfan50 stated...Nothing long term !! You must be very young ! Only the very young would think that way. That statement
dishonors the Character Clark Kent and the man he will become.
I'd start reading and watching the movies and Tv series so you both can Truly understand who Clark Kent really is ! And gain respect for the character.
Then, you both would understand why a Clark/Chloe hook up that you both wish for, won't happen.
Clark lives by a higher standard, as proven through out all 6 Seasons of Smallville.
It would disgrace and dishonor the character that is Clark Kent, to engage in a shallow meaningless fling with Chloe. Plus as obsessed as Chloe is, if it did happen, she wouldn't recover from it !
Then who knows how far she would go to get Clark to stay with her, as she has proved in the past.
Through her Jealousy and Obsession with Clark.
DC Comics and the writers of the Smallville Series Understand this, so they won't go there.
That's why Jimmy has come into the picture, so that Chloe can finally be free of her Obsession with Clark, and move on, and be a real friend to Clark, that doesn't hide behind a mask of
emotions. And after the Lana and Lex storyline finishes, they will start bringing Lois and Clark ever closer to each other. Lois and Clark may not get together in Smallville, but they will form
the bond and friendship on the Show, that complete's the Future storyline, that will bring them together as a couple in the future. And a future I might point out that doesn't include Chloe !
But you'd know all this already, had you seen The movies or read any of the books. You limit yourselves, by not knowing all the facts. Smallville remains True to those facts.

To greysfan511 sorry it took so long to come in to defend you , my friend, I'm on a Photo assignment in LA right now, and away from my home computer, I somehow messed my site up LOL So I had to create a new one till they fix mine.
To your comments !! Well put my Friend ! Well Put !!

Finally someone who had enough inteligence to see the true story of Superman, not just Smallville. I've been telling all these Chloe fanatics on here, to read or watch the Superman mythology to get the real facts. I have had people that have told me I'm wrong that Lois and Clark are the ultimate outcome, and that Chloe and Clark are the ultimate couple. These people need to think before they speak, and get the facts. I can'y believe Khyla thinks she knows everything about Superman when she even said she has never even read or watch anything Superman just Smallville. What she doesnt seem to get is that Smallville isn't made up its based off of 69 years of history!! The writers are not gonna change history for a few Chloe obsessive people. You are compleatly right about how Khyla must see herself as Chloe like, cause she doesnt want to see the real story, she only belives what she want to belive. I'm glad that someone out there knows how the story goes and can say the truth confidently, because it's the truth. Well said!! Well said!! I was cheering when I read your post!!

chlark=destiny

03-01-2007, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
This Message is to Khyla & svfan50

Khyla & svfan50, your problem is your not accepting, the reality right in front of you.As you put it.
You know nothing about Superman or the Young Clark Kent, accept from Smallville. Basing your thoughts solely off what you have seen, again on Smallville. But for all the True Fan's of both
Clark Kent, young and Old, and Superman. We were devoted enough Fan's to know the whole story behind the Young Clark Kent, who one day becomes The Man of Steel.
Who is Superman you ask ? Clark Kent ! Weve seen 6 Seasons now, of him displaying his powers,and yet you act like you still don't know LOL Or is it that you choose not to see it ?
Clark Kent already is Superman on Smallville, he just hasn't doned the Cape yet. Before you quote your Theory's, it's best that you know the whole History of the Charatcer and show it based from.
You show by your own words, you have limited awareness, and yet you talk like you know everything about Clark Kent and the Superman Saga, and yet you know hardly anything. Because
if you knew the whole story, and had watched the movies and TV series, you'd understand, what it is that Myself and Greysfan511 have been trying to explain to you, and a few others.
You don't want to see it, because you think of yourself as Chloe, I figured that out fairly quick, from your responces. And you want Clark to be with Chloe, so you and other's can feel like you have
Clark as well, because you so closely view yourself as a Chloe type. A little Strange !
Smallville for your information, is the story of Clark Kent, when he is young, based off...
Jeff East's performance in Superman ( the first movie ) If you knew the History which both of you don't !! Then you would realize Smallville is following that History to the letter.
Before you go arguing your point, You really need to know all the facts. Reading everything you all have posted, I see the limited awareness, and focus on one character ( Chloe )

The writers are moving towards bringing Lois and Clark closer together as the Season goes on, next Season as well. Maybe if you had watched some of those movies and read some of the books you'd understand this. The Chloe character has been obsessed with Clark through out, every season, hiding behide the mask of friendship. And as we have seen, in many of the shows if things don't go the way she wants them too, Jealousy consumes her, she betrays Clark to Lionel. Tried to wreck things for Clark and Lana. Took her anger out on Clark, to the point, Clark quit the Torch.
Disrespected the Friendship by probing into his adoption, after Clark asked her not too. Anytime they did kiss, it was Chloe doing the kissing, Clark never started it ( Except once under Red K ).
Clark isn't meant to be with Chloe. But I gather alot of the Chloe fan's would like to see a one night stand LOL Clark isn't the type to do a one night anything. He is a young man of Honor and
Intrigity, and morals and values. All the things True Fan's of Clark Kent and Superman Admire.
If you knew the History you'd understand. Smallville is about Superman. You just haven't figured that out yet ! Because rather than respect the History of the characters, you would rather wish
for a shallow meanless hook up, that leads to no where.
Clark Kent is Superman, The Young Superman at Present .

Addressing another issue....Clark doesn't always run off to Chloe to look to her for all advice !
He has done the same with Lois, many times. One example Saving for a bike and discovering you were really saving for a (Harley ) Martha Kent , and Lana until recently. He equally get's advice from all four women, Watch the shows and count. So Chloe isn't his only advice outlet.
Chloe, knows his secret because of Alicia. Did you all ever stop to think, about 3rd Season, when Clark has left home and he was under the influnce of Red K.? Obsessed Chloe found him. He was
free to act on his True feelings, if he had them for Chloe, and he acted as though he hated her.
If... as you said, feelings were there, it would have happened then. But it didn't ~!
Because Clark doesn't feel that way for her. Chloe may have the spark, but Clark doesn't ! And it takes two, with the same intense feelings to make it work. Not one !!
Chloe was totally Obsessed, till Jimmy came into the picture. Finally she is starting to be a real friend, the way her and Clark are suppose to be. With no romantic entanglements.
But still you wish for what is not there, for a quick hook up, As Svfan50 stated...Nothing long term !! You must be very young ! Only the very young would think that way. That statement
dishonors the Character Clark Kent and the man he will become.
I'd start reading and watching the movies and Tv series so you both can Truly understand who Clark Kent really is ! And gain respect for the character.
Then, you both would understand why a Clark/Chloe hook up that you both wish for, won't happen.
Clark lives by a higher standard, as proven through out all 6 Seasons of Smallville.
It would disgrace and dishonor the character that is Clark Kent, to engage in a shallow meaningless fling with Chloe. Plus as obsessed as Chloe is, if it did happen, she wouldn't recover from it !
Then who knows how far she would go to get Clark to stay with her, as she has proved in the past.
Through her Jealousy and Obsession with Clark.
DC Comics and the writers of the Smallville Series Understand this, so they won't go there.
That's why Jimmy has come into the picture, so that Chloe can finally be free of her Obsession with Clark, and move on, and be a real friend to Clark, that doesn't hide behind a mask of
emotions. And after the Lana and Lex storyline finishes, they will start bringing Lois and Clark ever closer to each other. Lois and Clark may not get together in Smallville, but they will form
the bond and friendship on the Show, that complete's the Future storyline, that will bring them together as a couple in the future. And a future I might point out that doesn't include Chloe !
But you'd know all this already, had you seen The movies or read any of the books. You limit yourselves, by not knowing all the facts. Smallville remains True to those facts.

To greysfan511 sorry it took so long to come in to defend you , my friend, I'm on a Photo assignment in LA right now, and away from my home computer, I somehow messed my site up LOL So I had to create a new one till they fix mine.
To your comments !! Well put my Friend ! Well Put !!

Okay not to sound disrespectful, BUT you are BLOWING THIS ARGUMENT WAY OUT OF PROPORTION:rolleyes:

First of all, YES, this is the story of the young Clark Kent, who will ONE day become superman, BUT this is ALSO SMALLVILLE, where AL/MILES ULTIMATELY CONTROL THE OUTCOME OF THE STORY. There are A LOT of things that take place in SV that wasn't originally in Superman mythos. FOR EXAMPLE, Lex and Clark didn't grow up together; they weren't best friends. SECONDLY, LOIS LANE DIDN'T KNOW CLARK KENT UNTIL SHE MET HIM AT THE DAILY PLANET. THIRDLY, Lex and Lana were NEVER lovers or married. PLUS, in some versions of Superman, Lana Lang was married to Pete Ross. Lana has also been the one pining for Clark in some versions of supes. FINALLY, there are also some versions where Jonathan Kent is alive and some where he is dead. Sorry, BUT NOTHING IS SET IN STONE. . .NOT EVEN IN THE SUPERMAN MYTHOS :D

FURTHERMORE, I think that it's kind of sad that you have to attack KHYLA & SVFAN 50 just because, along with other CHLARKERS, LIKE MYSELF, they feel that Chloe is PERFECT for Clark:(

ANYWAYS, what sort of message does it send to the young Superman fans, if QUALITIES like CHLOE'S, do not meet Clark's criteria for the PERFECT GIRL? Superman is not suppose to be shallow. . .it would be pretty sad:(, if Chloe got overlooked, because she doesn't wear her sexuality on her sleeve, like some people on the show do:rolleyes: Look, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but your tone and attitude is uncalled for. You don't have to throw it in our face that Clark only sees Chloe as a friend, which I think you're wrong! Sure in the past, there were times when we could have just labeled them friends, BUT things change! It sounds to me like you can't except the fact that Chloe and Clark may actually TRULY LOVE ONE ANOTHER :D Chloe has proven to NOT ONLY be the PERFECT FRIEND, BUT ALSO THE PERFECT MATE:

*CLARK TRUSTS HER MORE THAN ANYONE. CHLOE HAS BEEN HIS ROCK, AND LATELY, CLARK HAS BEEN HERS.

*IN SEASON 1 AND 2, HE WAS CLEARLY TORN BETWEEN LANA AND CHLOE.

*IN SEASON 2, CLARK DIDN'T PURSUE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHLOE, BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO PROTECT HERSELF AND THEIR FRIENDSHIP. HOWEVER, CLARK WAS STILL CLEARLY JEALOUS WHENEVER CHLOE GOT ATTENTION FROM OTHER GUYS.

*CLARK FINDS CHLOE ATTRACTIVE: BOUND ANYONE?

*CLARK HAS FEELINGS FOR HER: I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'D DO WITHOUT YOU; YOU MEAN A LOT MORE TO ME THAN YOU KNOW (LABYRINTH), AND I CAN'T SAY THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT (HE'S THOUGHT ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH HER - CRIMSON).

So please spare us the lecture about Superman cannon :rolleyes:, because we ALL know that not everything in the mythos is set in stone.

PhotoStarz

03-01-2007, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
Finally someone who had enough inteligence to see the true story of Superman, not just Smallville. I've been telling all these Chloe fanatics on here, to read or watch the Superman mythology to get the real facts. I have had people that have told me I'm wrong that Lois and Clark are the ultimate outcome, and that Chloe and Clark are the ultimate couple. These people need to think before they speak, and get the facts. I can'y believe Khyla thinks she knows everything about Superman when she even said she has never even read or watch anything Superman just Smallville. What she doesnt seem to get is that Smallville isn't made up its based off of 69 years of history!! The writers are not gonna change history for a few Chloe obsessive people. You are compleatly right about how Khyla must see herself as Chloe like, cause she doesnt want to see the real story, she only belives what she want to belive. I'm glad that someone out there knows how the story goes and can say the truth confidently, because it's the truth. Well said!! Well said!! I was cheering when I read your post!!

LOL I just snuck onto my laptop to write back, I'm in LA photographing a few bands for Trauma Records right now, and won't be home till Monday. When I saw the post's I tried to get on last night but it wouldn't let me, so I had to create another, so you weren't defending alone LOL
I already figured Khyla out, and with the other Chloe fan's it just about getting Clark and Chloe together, and ignoring reality.
But if they all had more backround on Clark Kent/Superman, than just Smallville, then they would all realize, Clark Kent and Superman, young or Old. Is a symbol of Hope, Honor, and Intrigity and Loved by Millions around the world. Clark Kent has Moral's, and values, and isn't the type that does shallow meanless affairs, as all Chloe fan's hope for.
Because he is a Symbol of what's good in Mankind, and set's a Wonderful example, of what we could all be, if we tried.
Millions of kid's around the world tune in with their family's to watch Smallville. Even Kid's in Russia !! Yes !! Smallville is in Russia, I was quite surprised to see it on tv when I was out there.
( Wish I knew what they were saying Though !! ) LOL
And for 69 years, DC Comics has maintained the Intrigity of Clark Kent and Superman. Clark Kent lives by a higher standard, that all people can look up too, and admire. DC Comics and The writers for Smallville aren't going to throw that out the window, to cheapen the Clark Kent Character, by having an Affair with Chloe LOL They did Bend the storyline, with Clark and Lana being intimate, and Lex and Lana as was pointed out to me. I already knew this, but with Clark, it was done out of True Love for Lana.
He has only been with her that way on the show, everyone else, close !! But the writers had to cut it off, to keep with the Moral fiber, of who Clark Kent really is, in Smallville. Lana is a main character and been around for almost 69 years as well. So True Fan's of Clark Kent/Superman were ok with it.
Chloe fan's would rather live the lie, as you pointed out.
But we see the reality because we know the entire Saga of Superman and the young Clark Kent, and how the Ending will turn out. And Smallville is headed there right now. When that day comes all Superman/Clark Kent True Fan's will rejoice, while the Chloe fan's go yet into another fantasy angle and continue to live the lie they now believe.
By the way !! Your a great speaker yourself, and get the point across nicely !!

chlark=destiny

03-01-2007, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz

I already figured Khyla out, and with the other Chloe fan's it just about getting Clark and Chloe together, and ignoring reality.
But if they all had more backround on Clark Kent/Superman, than just Smallville, then they would all realize, Clark Kent and Superman, young or Old. Is a symbol of Hope, Honor, and Intrigity and Loved by Millions around the world. Clark Kent has Moral's, and values, and isn't the type that does shallow meanless affairs, as all Chloe fan's hope for.
Because he is a Symbol of what's good in Mankind, and set's a Wonderful example, of what we could all be, if we tried.

Alright, yes Clark Kent/Superman is suppose to represent everything good and moral, BUT even HE has flaws. . .ie. moping and obsessing over Lana:rolleyes: He may be a kryptonian, BUT he was raised by humans, therefore, he was brought up to have human emotions. There's nothing wrong with that:)

Originally posted by Khyla
Ah ha!, ya see that's the key!!!

[the following sentence here is made up but for the sake of getting my point across:]
I'm sorry, but i havent a clue what you're talking about since i have never heard of or read any comics or seen any "Superman" movies; i mean, who is Superman?

I only know what i know from watching the TV show called Smallville. You say Clark is Lois' friend??? Jeez, where have i been? I've never even seen her call him on the phone, or him call her. I've never seen them hanging out together either, except for when she just happened to be there because she was living at the Kents. I did see some sexual attraction there when they both happened to be at that strip club... but your telling me they look to you like they are becoming the best of friends? From what you've seen on Smallville they look like they are becoming lovers and will get married?? :confused:

I do see Clark running off to find Chloe or having her come over, any time he needs advice, help, or just wants to hang out,. He is always seeking her out, and we don't see her seeking him out so much,... Also it noticeably bothers him that he's sharing her with someone else now, but her happiness seems very important to him.

None of this is stuff i made up in my head.. It's what the writers have chosen to show to me.
i only base my opinions on what i have seen and what the writers have given us within the walls on Smallville, and ONLY within the walls of Smallville!!

(i'm obviously not alone in this since this poll here shows @ 75% who viewed "Freak" say that they got CHlark out of it; either as much as they'd hoped for or they wished there was even more.)

Khyla, you are absolutely right about Clark and Lois' "friendship". . .where exactly is this "great" friendship/relationship :rolleyes: I sure as heck don't see it:confused: All I ever see from them is the constant bickering like two siblings and the "occasional" sexual attraction to one another. UNLIKE CLOIS, CHLARK actually hang out together (go on picnics, coffee), call and visit each other, and confide in one another:D. . .IMO, that is how I DEFINE A RELATIONSHIP, WHETHER IT IS FRIENDSHIP OR MORE :D

PhotoStarz

03-01-2007, 08:57 PM

chlark=destiny

03-01-2007, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
Finally someone who had enough inteligence to see the true story of Superman, not just Smallville. I've been telling all these Chloe fanatics on here, to read or watch the Superman mythology to get the real facts. I have had people that have told me I'm wrong that Lois and Clark are the ultimate outcome, and that Chloe and Clark are the ultimate couple. These people need to think before they speak, and get the facts. I can'y believe Khyla thinks she knows everything about Superman when she even said she has never even read or watch anything Superman just Smallville. What she doesnt seem to get is that Smallville isn't made up its based off of 69 years of history!! The writers are not gonna change history for a few Chloe obsessive people. You are compleatly right about how Khyla must see herself as Chloe like, cause she doesnt want to see the real story, she only belives what she want to belive. I'm glad that someone out there knows how the story goes and can say the truth confidently, because it's the truth. Well said!! Well said!! I was cheering when I read your post!!

History?! History?! Please do not tell me that you are that delusional to call the Superman story history. . .WWII is history, 9/11 is history, the fall of the Roman Empire is history. . .Superman is a comic book. . .there are tons of versions of Superman out there, and they are ALL different!

There have been close to a dozen Superman tv shows over the years, and every single one of those have been different. In most of them, he doesn't even end up with Lois. In most of the older stories, which you claim you want to stick to, he can't have Lois, because he was afraid that knowing his secret would endanger her (Similar the relationship between Spiderman and Mary-Jane). Superman and Lois ended up married in one of the movies and in the Lois and Clark tv series, BUT that just goes to show you that the story does and can get changed everytime the story is told. When I was a kid, there was a ridiculous cartoon series called Justice League, where all of the characters from all the different comic books were in a club fighting crime together. No one cared if they were "following the story." Superman is a fictional character here for our entertainment. You act like the stuff in the Superman story came from the bible.

In conclusion, Smallville CAN and HAS changed the Superman story. It's ridiculous to think that it would be violating something sacred to have something different happen:rolleyes:. I don't see why having Chloe and Clark get together would be such a BIG deal:confused:

PhotoStarz

03-01-2007, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
True !! Clark was raised by Human parents, But Jor EL chose The Kent's, because he knew they would guide him down the right path to follow. I'm sure Kryptonian's moped too LOL The Relationship with Lana helped Clark to grow as a person, and go from a boy to a man.

I missed your praise to the other Chloe fan. So I'll comment on it.
The friendship of Lois and Clark has been on going since Season4
The writers pull them in close and then push back. Put them close again, and then push back. They are doing it to create excitement for the watchers of Smallville. To just bring them together would be all too boring. But it's there, you two just don't want to see it.
No Khyla ! They aren't calling each other all the time, or acting like best friends, but they do hang out together from time to time.
The writers have been deliberately playing touch and go with Lois and Clark. If you don't believe what I am saying, pick up a copy of the new Smallville Magazine Lover's Lane and read it, and what Al/Miles are doing and where it is going in the last half of the Season. I'm telling the truth. You can't argue with that.

PhotoStarz

03-02-2007, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
History?! History?! Please do not tell me that you are that delusional to call the Superman story history. . .WWII is history, 9/11 is history, the fall of the Roman Empire is history. . .Superman is a comic book. . .there are tons of versions of Superman out there, and they are ALL different!

There have been close to a dozen Superman tv shows over the years, and every single one of those have been different. In most of them, he doesn't even end up with Lois. In most of the older stories, which you claim you want to stick to, he can't have Lois, because he was afraid that knowing his secret would endanger her ie. (Spiderman and Mary-Jane). Superman and Lois ended up married in one of the movies and in the Lois and Clark tv series, BUT that just goes to show you that the story does and can get changed everytime the story is told. When I was a kid, there was a ridiculous cartoon series called Justice League, where all of the characters from all the different comic books were in a club fighting crime together. No one cared if they were "following the story." Superman is a fictional character here for our entertainment. You act like the stuff in the Superman story came from the bible.

OooH apparently I struck to close to home and unnerved you LOL
Speaking about the History of Superman, to explain in simple terms you can understand. The origin of the beginning to where it is now, and how that storyline has remained pretty much the same as it has for 69 years. So I wouldn't call that being delusional, as you put It LOL It is the DC Comics History of a Fictional Comicbook Character, of which I spoke. But you knew that already didn't you ? It was just your way, of trying to cast an insult my way. A 5 year old could have figured that out.
Having owned 3 Comicbook Stores through out my Life I know Superman's Comicbook and Movie History extremely well.
And yes there are many versions through the years, but again, who Superman the Character is, did not change. His 3 main loves were the 3 L's Lana Lori and Lois. I can tell by the way you speak you are from my generation or a bit older, and read alot of the same comics I did as a kid. Spiderman was a clue LOL
So you should know this, and know what I'm saying is true.
As for the cartoons you watched as a kid, everyone knows cartoons don't follow storylines all the time. When I was a kid, it was The Super Friends, with the Wonder Twins ! LOL Remember them ? They were never part of The JLA, but in the cartoon they were. And as much as they bounced Superman around from title to title, it always came back to Lois Lane being Superman's Girlfriend. Lois even got her own comicbook title Called
" Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane " I'm not making this up LOL
And your right, as kid's we could care less about them following a storyline. We just wanted to see our heroes !! But as adult's we do start to care about the storylines of our childhood heroes.
Right now in the Comicbook stores, there's a different twist where Superman and Wonder Woman come together, and it was interesting to read, and I personally like that Idea better, but again, DC Comics call's the shot's on their characters, and it was only an Imaginary tale, kind of a What If !!
Superman has been around since 1938, and DC Comics used him as a symbol in World War II To give our children at that time Hope for the world, and feel safer thinking they had their Hero out fighting the Nazi's. When 911 happened, DC Comics used The Superman character to help the real Heroes of 911, the Policemen and Fire Dept, and had a special comics showcase with the money going towards helping those who were affected that day. Though as you put it, he is a fictional character, that doesn't make him, any less a Symbol of Hope, for millions of Children all over the world. And as a Symbol of hope, that stands for Honor Truth and Intrigity, and doing what is morally right. It would be alittle hard for DC Comics or the Writers of Smallville, to dishonor that symbol with such a shallow untaking as having a fling, just for the heck of it, due to sexual attraction. That's for Lex LOL
Clark Kent on Smallville, has some human bad traits, but he has already shown all the things I just explained, During every season so far. That's why they won't cross the line with Clark and Chloe. Love Interests come and go, as we know in real Life. True Friends Last longer.
LOL As for thinking that I think the stuff coming out of the Superman story is from the Bible LOL What planet are you from ?? LOL Clark and the Superman Saga is a fictional Character here for our entertainment, just like you said. You should remember that, when you think of Chloe !! Fictional Character !!
Because you and a few others have lost sight of that.
As for the Bible quote, I gather your are not a Church going guy or gal. Because what I said had nothing to do with God or the bible. It had to do with the Symbol Clark Kent is to Millions of the smaller fan's who look at him on Smallville as a role model.
Clark Kent is about Honor, Loyalty and what's Morally right. Always trying to do the right thing, reaching out to help others in need, defending the weak. What a good example, he shows every week on Smallville for our kid's to see. Wouldn't you agree ?
So why would DC Comics and the writers and producers, ruin that and set a bad example for them to see their Hero in ?
They won't !
But it's sad that so many would want to cast everything aside to have two fictional characters, have a meanless fling to satisfy their own personal wants, because they view themselves as Chloe, or Clark getting Chloe LOL That's what is really delusional.
Because as you put it, They are just fictional Characters. But we all adore them !! LOL Again I enjoyed sparing with you it was Refreshing. I Look forward to your next mean letter LOL
Just kidding LOL I like you !! You get me going LOL And your fun !
Best Wishes too you !!

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
History?! History?! Please do not tell me that you are that delusional to call the Superman story history. . .WWII is history, 9/11 is history, the fall of the Roman Empire is history. . .Superman is a comic book. . .there are tons of versions of Superman out there, and they are ALL different!

There have been close to a dozen Superman tv shows over the years, and every single one of those have been different. In most of them, he doesn't even end up with Lois. In most of the older stories, which you claim you want to stick to, he can't have Lois, because he was afraid that knowing his secret would endanger her (Similar the relationship between Spiderman and Mary-Jane). Superman and Lois ended up married in one of the movies and in the Lois and Clark tv series, BUT that just goes to show you that the story does and can get changed everytime the story is told. When I was a kid, there was a ridiculous cartoon series called Justice League, where all of the characters from all the different comic books were in a club fighting crime together. No one cared if they were "following the story." Superman is a fictional character here for our entertainment. You act like the stuff in the Superman story came from the bible.

In conclusion, Smallville CAN and HAS changed the Superman story. It's ridiculous to think that it would be violating something sacred to have something different happen:rolleyes:. I don't see why having Chloe and Clark get together would be such a BIG deal:confused:

In responce to....

In conclusion, Smallville CAN and HAS changed the Superman story. It's ridiculous to think that it would be violating something sacred to have something different happen. I don't see why having Chloe and Clark get together would be such a BIG deal

Though they have changed some of the format from the Superman Story for the TV Show" Smallville " The one thing you keep failing to notice is this. Clark Kent is above such things, as shown in Smallville Season after Season. He know's the differance between right and wrong. And for his character, becoming intimate is a very personal and serious matter that he doesn't take lightly. He's not a hop into bed with a person and have a fling, type guy. If he was, he would have followed through with Alicia, and a few others. Even when he was mind controlled or on Red K, he never crossed the line. Think about that ! Kissing was as far as it got. DC comics won't let it happen, with Chloe or anyone else, after Lana. Lois is the next Love of Clark's Life.
Move on guy's get over it !! Face the fact you and I don't have control over the show. DC Comics & Time Warner does !
They have to keep it that way for The Superman Movie Saga after the Return of Superman came out last year.
That's why Chloe and Clark won't be. And that's the real reason.

chlark=destiny

03-02-2007, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
OooH apparently I struck to close to home and unnerved you LOL
Speaking about the History of Superman, to explain in simple terms you can understand. The origin of the beginning to where it is now, and how that storyline has remained pretty much the same as it has for 69 years. So I wouldn't call that being delusional, as you put It LOL It is the DC Comics History of a Fictional Comicbook Character, of which I spoke. But you knew that already didn't you ? It was just your way, of trying to cast an insult my way. A 5 year old could have figured that out.
Having owned 3 Comicbook Stores through out my Life I know Superman's Comicbook and Movie History extremely well.
And yes there are many versions through the years, but again, who Superman the Character is, did not change. His 3 main loves were the 3 L's Lana Lori and Lois. I can tell by the way you speak you are from my generation or a bit older, and read alot of the same comics I did as a kid. Spiderman was a clue LOL
So you should know this, and know what I'm saying is true.
As for the cartoons you watched as a kid, everyone knows cartoons don't follow storylines all the time. When I was a kid, it was The Super Friends, with the Wonder Twins ! LOL Remember them ? They were never part of The JLA, but in the cartoon they were. And as much as they bounced Superman around from title to title, it always came back to Lois Lane being Superman's Girlfriend. Lois even got her own comicbook title Called
" Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane " I'm not making this up LOL
And your right, as kid's we could care less about them following a storyline. We just wanted to see our heroes !! But as adult's we do start to care about the storylines of our childhood heroes.
Right now in the Comicbook stores, there's a different twist where Superman and Wonder Woman come together, and it was interesting to read, and I personally like that Idea better, but again, DC Comics call's the shot's on their characters, and it was only an Imaginary tale, kind of a What If !!
Superman has been around since 1938, and DC Comics used him as a symbol in World War II To give our children at that time Hope for the world, and feel safer thinking they had their Hero out fighting the Nazi's. When 911 happened, DC Comics used The Superman character to help the real Heroes of 911, the Policemen and Fire Dept, and had a special comics showcase with the money going towards helping those who were affected that day. Though as you put it, he is a fictional character, that doesn't make him, any less a Symbol of Hope, for millions of Children all over the world. And as a Symbol of hope, that stands for Honor Truth and Intrigity, and doing what is morally right. It would be alittle hard for DC Comics or the Writers of Smallville, to dishonor that symbol with such a shallow untaking as having a fling, just for the heck of it, due to sexual attraction. That's for Lex LOL
Clark Kent on Smallville, has some human bad traits, but he has already shown all the things I just explained, During every season so far. That's why they won't cross the line with Clark and Chloe. Love Interests come and go, as we know in real Life. True Friends Last longer.
LOL As for thinking that I think the stuff coming out of the Superman story is from the Bible LOL What planet are you from ?? LOL Clark and the Superman Saga is a fictional Character here for our entertainment, just like you said. You should remember that, when you think of Chloe !! Fictional Character !!
Because you and a few others have lost sight of that.
As for the Bible quote, I gather your are not a Church going guy or gal. Because what I said had nothing to do with God or the bible. It had to do with the Symbol Clark Kent is to Millions of the smaller fan's who look at him on Smallville as a role model.
Clark Kent is about Honor, Loyalty and what's Morally right. Always trying to do the right thing, reaching out to help others in need, defending the weak. What a good example, he shows every week on Smallville for our kid's to see. Wouldn't you agree ?
So why would DC Comics and the writers and producers, ruin that and set a bad example for them to see their Hero in ?
They won't !
But it's sad that so many would want to cast everything aside to have two fictional characters, have a meanless fling to satisfy their own personal wants, because they view themselves as Chloe, or Clark getting Chloe LOL That's what is really delusional.
Because as you put it, They are just fictional Characters. But we all adore them !! LOL Again I enjoyed sparing with you it was Refreshing. I Look forward to your next mean letter LOL
Just kidding LOL I like you !! You get me going LOL And your fun !
Best Wishes too you !!

In responce to....

In conclusion, Smallville CAN and HAS changed the Superman story. It's ridiculous to think that it would be violating something sacred to have something different happen. I don't see why having Chloe and Clark get together would be such a BIG deal

Though they have changed some of the format from the Superman Story for the TV Show" Smallville " The one thing you keep failing to notice is this. Clark Kent is above such things, as shown in Smallville Season after Season. He know's the differance between right and wrong. And for his character, becoming intimate is a very personal and serious matter that he doesn't take lightly. He's not a hop into bed with a person and have a fling, type guy. If he was, he would have followed through with Alicia, and a few others. Even when he was mind controlled or on Red K, he never crossed the line. Think about that ! Kissing was as far as it got. DC comics won't let it happen, with Chloe or anyone else, after Lana. Lois is the next Love of Clark's Life.
Move on guy's get over it !! Face the fact you and I don't have control over the show. DC Comics & Time Warner does !
They have to keep it that way for The Superman Movie Saga after the Return of Superman came out last year.
That's why Chloe and Clark won't be. And that's the real reason.

Well, I got to give you props. . .you sure know your Superman "history," as you put it:lol: HOWEVER, I am not from the same generation as you. I'm actually a married female in my late 20's, BUT I do KNOW A LOT about Superman cannon, as I have already proven. Don't let my age fool you:lol:

I grew up LOVING the story of Superman, and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I AM A FAN OF LOIS LANE;) I'm just NOT a fan of SV's "LOIS LANE". . .you catch my drift? The Iconic Lois Lane that I KNOW embodies certain characteristics that EDLois DOES NOT HAVE. This is what I know about the ILL:

*SHE'S AN OVERACHIEVER. . .EDLOIS IS NOT

*SHE HAS A DEGREE IN JOURNALISM. . .UNLIKE EDLOIS WHO IS A COLLEGE DROP-OUT

*IT WAS HER DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DAILY PLANET, AND SHE EVEN WAS ONE OF THE YOUNGEST INTERNS TO WORK THERE. . .IT HAS NEVER BEEN EDLOIS' DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DP

*SHE HAS CLASS AND DOESN'T RESORT TO "EXPOSING" HER BODY TO GET WHAT SHE WANTS. . .EXPOSED ANYONE?

ALL of these ILL traits listed above DESCRIBE CHLOE;) Now, I'm not going to turn this into a CHLOIS discussion, BUT CHLOE IS SV'S VERSION OF LOIS LANE:D This is why I LOVE CHLOE SO MUCH and WANT HER TO BE WITH CLARK!;)

Now I know that I got a little off of the subject, BUT I just want you to understand why so many of us CHLARKERS feel the way we do. It's NOT that we don't like LOIS LANE; It's just that SV'S version of Lois Lane (EDLOIS) pales in comparison to the ICONIC LOIS LANE, and the person who comes closet to that on SV IS CHLOE;) She is the one who deserves to write the BIG story about Superman, NOT EDLOIS! What's sad is the fact that Al/Miles have painted themselves into a corner:rolleyes: How are they going to EVER expect the audience to BELIEVE that EDLOIS will be the ONE to write Superman's story, when Chloe was the one who has been his #1 secret-keeper and has stuck beside him through EVERYTHING?!:confused:. . .Yeah, that's really going to be believeable. . .PLEASE:rolleyes:

Well, it was nice sparring with you, BUT I got to go to bed:lol: Oh, I liked your letter too:lol: I'll be waiting for your response tommorrow:)

Mr. Wrong

03-02-2007, 09:00 AM

Mr. Lerone,
You couldn't be more way off base! I have never suggested that it would be good for Chloe and Clark to get together romantically. In fact, I am totally against it. I agree completely that Clark is supposed to represent all that is good in man but you are totally mistaken if you think that is a truism in SV! Superman never lies and SV's CK lies constantly. Superman would never have taken the virginity of Lana without revealing the fact that he was an alien. Don't forget, he wasn't influenced by kryptonite what so ever during that episode. I'm not saying I would have acted any differently myself, but I'm no superhero! Still, TPTB have determined that they didn't want their Superman to go through life as a virgin. Surely however, you aren't suggesting that this is the type of message that should be conveyed to the youth of this world.

PhotoStarz

03-02-2007, 11:09 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Well, I got to give you props. . .you sure know your Superman "history," as you put it:lol: HOWEVER, I am not from the same generation as you. I'm actually a married female in my late 20's, BUT I do KNOW A LOT about Superman cannon, as I have already proven. Don't let my age fool you:lol:

I grew up LOVING the story of Superman, and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I AM A FAN OF LOIS LANE;) I'm just NOT a fan of SV's "LOIS LANE". . .you catch my drift? The Iconic Lois Lane that I KNOW embodies certain characteristics that EDLois DOES NOT HAVE. This is what I know about the ILL:

*SHE'S AN OVERACHIEVER. . .EDLOIS IS NOT

*SHE HAS A DEGREE IN JOURNALISM. . .UNLIKE EDLOIS WHO IS A COLLEGE DROP-OUT

*IT WAS HER DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DAILY PLANET, AND SHE EVEN WAS ONE OF THE YOUNGEST INTERNS TO WORK THERE. . .IT HAS NEVER BEEN EDLOIS' DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DP

*SHE HAS CLASS AND DOESN'T RESORT TO "EXPOSING" HER BODY TO GET WHAT SHE WANTS. . .EXPOSED ANYONE?

ALL of these ILL traits listed above DESCRIBE CHLOE;) Now, I'm not going to turn this into a CHLOIS discussion, BUT CHLOE IS SV'S VERSION OF LOIS LANE:D This is why I LOVE CHLOE SO MUCH and WANT HER TO BE WITH CLARK!;)

Now I know that I got a little off of the subject, BUT I just want you to understand why so many of us CHLARKERS feel the way we do. It's NOT that we don't like LOIS LANE; It's just that SV'S version of Lois Lane (EDLOIS) pales in comparison to the ICONIC LOIS LANE, and the person who comes closet to that on SV IS CHLOE;) She is the one who deserves to write the BIG story about Superman, NOT EDLOIS! What's sad is the fact that Al/Miles have painted themselves into a corner:rolleyes: How are they going to EVER expect the audience to BELIEVE that EDLOIS will be the ONE to write Superman's story, when Chloe was the one who has been his #1 secret-keeper and has stuck beside him through EVERYTHING?!:confused:. . .Yeah, that's really going to be believeable. . .PLEASE:rolleyes:

Well, it was nice sparring with you, BUT I got to go to bed:lol: Oh, I liked your letter too:lol: I'll be waiting for your response tommorrow:) [/QUOTE

Oh How I hate LA in the morning ! Thank god for coffee and a laptop LOL !
I agree with you on the Smallville Lois not being what she should.
But after reading The Smallville magazine Lover's Lane. I finally understand the method of their maddness. If you watch Seasons 4 thru 6 again, you will catch what they are doing, with Lois and Clark. Little by little they are bringing them together, even though both are unaware of it. Lois admires Clark, though she'll never tell him LOL But she did tell Lana, and Martha in different show's that she did. And Clark Admires her for the strength inside her, and the way she has always been there for his family. He showed he had real feelings for her at the hospital when she was injured by the Glass controlling freak, when he took her hand without realizing it. They are all very faint hint's, but when you tie them all together, then I saw what Al/MIles were doing, as explained in the Smallville Magazine.
As for showing the body part's, sadly that's the writers wanting to pull in young men viewers, but my wife would agree with you, a little less skin LOL
Chloe does has the drive of a True Reporter, and without question, shares many of the same things that the True Lois Lane has from the comic's and Movies. But that's where it ends.
Because she wasn't chosen to be Lois Lane.
There have been many Lois Lanes through out the Saga of Superman, my favorite Noel Neall from the 1950's tv show. I didn't care for M. Kidder, or the new one Kate Bosworth, but I accept them, because they were chosen as Lois.
ED Lois is good, for the way she is playing the young Lois. It makes you remember a time that we were all alittle Wild and Crazy, and didn't know which direction we would go in Life.
That's what the writers are doing right now with Lois, but Lois will come into her own, and surpass Chloe with the News Gift in time. That's the only direction they have left LOL
With Chloe always being there and knowing his secret and knowing so much. The only real way to bring Lois above her would be to kill the Chloe character off, by accident or someone out to get her. It's the only thing that makes sense. Because Chloe doesn't go on after Smallville. She disappears. And we all know how Totally Obsessed Chloe is when it comes to Clark, she would never leave being apart of his life willingly. So it may be an outcome in Season 7 and the thing that finally brings Clark and Lois together. Both of them dealing with the Loss of Chloe.
When I was in New York a month ago, ( I Travel alot, I work with MTV ) I know alot of people in DC Comics, and they were speaking about that theory as a possibilty. So I am curious to see what happens next Season.
But the writers are headed towards bringing Lois and Clark together starting in Season 6 and more so in 7 and Lois will do a complete believable turn around and finally be focused and know her destiny as a News reporter. And Finally become the Lois Lane we all Love and adore as True Fan's of Smallville and the Superman Saga.
Nice speaking with you again, got to run, and make some RockStars look good now, on film LOL Just need one more expresso !! LOL
Ps Sorry I thought you were older and maybe a guy LOL I really should look at profiles LOL Forgive me !!

Khyla

03-02-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
BUT CHLOE IS SV'S VERSION OF LOIS LANE:D This is why I LOVE CHLOE SO MUCH and WANT HER TO BE WITH CLARK!;)

... BUT I just want you to understand why so many of us CHLARKERS feel the way we do. It's NOT that we don't like LOIS LANE; It's just that SV'S version of Lois Lane (EDLOIS) pales in comparison to the ICONIC LOIS LANE, and the person who comes closet to that on SV IS CHLOE;) She is the one who deserves to write the BIG story about Superman, NOT EDLOIS! What's sad is the fact that Al/Miles have painted themselves into a corner:rolleyes: How are they going to EVER expect the audience to BELIEVE that EDLOIS will be the ONE to write Superman's story, when Chloe was the one who has been his #1 secret-keeper and has stuck beside him through EVERYTHING?!:confused:. . .Yeah, that's really going to be believeable. . .PLEASE:rolleyes:

thank you for explaining it so well! :)

to comment on a previous post in this thread: it's interesting that someone has me "figured out" by reading a couple of my posts :lol: If they were to read some of my more serious posts or fics they would know my sentiments are much the same as chlark=destiny's They would also know that one SV fan has dedicated a website to one of my theories referred to now as either the Meta-Smallville Twist or the Meta-Chlois Theory, which is based on the premise that Lois Lane is the writer of the Smallville series and has represented herself in the series as the character Chloe Sullivan. I won't go further into it here because this is not the appropriate thread. There are already threads for it, you can find a starting point from here if interested:

'Smallville' a DP exclusive series (intro of the Meta-Chlois Theory) (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65114)

PhotoStarz

03-02-2007, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Khyla
thank you for explaining it so well! :)

to comment on a previous post in this thread: it's interesting that someone has me "figured out" by reading a couple of my posts :lol: If they were to read some of my more serious posts or fics they would know my sentiments are much the same as chlark=destiny's They would also know that one SV fan has dedicated a website to one of my theories referred to now as either the Meta-Smallville Twist or the Meta-Chlois Theory, which is based on the premise that Lois Lane is the writer of the Smallville series and has represented herself in the series as the character Chloe Sullivan. I won't go further into it here because this is not the appropriate thread. There are already threads for it, you can find a starting point from here if interested:

'Smallville' a DP exclusive series (intro of the Meta-Chlois Theory) (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65114)

How I pegged you, was from your own words. You relate to yourself to much with Chloe and your own personal Life. And the way you speak of the character, is as though you were talking about yourself. I have read alot more of your posts. You seem jealous of the Lois Character. You've starting discussions about how you dislike her and how Chloe is so wonderful.
As for a SvFan deciating a website to one of your Theories. Nice to hear that you have a groupie LOL I deal with those types alot in my line of work in the Music Industry. But remember Theory or not DC Comics and Time Warner didn't Imbrace your thoughts orIdea's.
It was only an admirer of yours. So it doesn't matter.
Your theory isn't part of the DC Comics Universe, or Smallville's, only yours, and a few others who share in creating their own fantasy of what the characters should do, if it were up to them.
No harm in that ! More power too you !
But I have learned alot in life about people, from how they talk and phrase things. The Lois Bashing is uncalled for, but you seem to do it on a regular basis, proving my point, about pegging you.
If I was wrong, you wouldn't be trying so hard to get everyone down on Lois. Chloe is a wonderful character in Smallville, but she does have major personality flaws. Obsession with Clark, Jealousy, and a deep history of family mental health issues from her mother. Which tend to run in the family. Chloe herself has brought that subject up many times, through out Smallville's run.
I Like all the characters, flaws and all ! Yes even ( Lex ) LOL
It makes for a more interesting show. So why waste your time and energy bashing a character and finding way's to put the character down. I am a True Fan of the entire Superman/ Clark Kent Saga that includes Smallville. And I like the Chloe character. The only reason I have had to point out her flaw's was to prove a point to you all. Everyone of the characters has a flaw in one way or another. But you always single out Lois ! Thus proving my point, you think of yourself as Chloe ! That's the only logical answer. Look at your own posts, you even refer back to yourself all the time as being like Chlark

Part of your post :
If they were to read some of my more serious posts or fics they would know my sentiments are much the same as [b]chlark=destiny
Should we start calling you Chloe ?? Because I think that's who you think you are !
Stop the character bashing of Lois and Lana, and focus on the good things. And we will all stop engaging you in these debates.

greysfan511

03-02-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Okay not to sound disrespectful, BUT you are BLOWING THIS ARGUMENT WAY OUT OF PROPORTION:rolleyes:

First of all, YES, this is the story of the young Clark Kent, who will ONE day become superman, BUT this is ALSO SMALLVILLE, where AL/MILES ULTIMATELY CONTROL THE OUTCOME OF THE STORY. There are A LOT of things that take place in SV that wasn't originally in Superman mythos. FOR EXAMPLE, Lex and Clark didn't grow up together; they weren't best friends. SECONDLY, LOIS LANE DIDN'T KNOW CLARK KENT UNTIL SHE MET HIM AT THE DAILY PLANET. THIRDLY, Lex and Lana were NEVER lovers or married. PLUS, in some versions of Superman, Lana Lang was married to Pete Ross. Lana has also been the one pining for Clark in some versions of supes. FINALLY, there are also some versions where Jonathan Kent is alive and some where he is dead. Sorry, BUT NOTHING IS SET IN STONE. . .NOT EVEN IN THE SUPERMAN MYTHOS :D

FURTHERMORE, I think that it's kind of sad that you have to attack KHYLA & SVFAN 50 just because, along with other CHLARKERS, LIKE MYSELF, they feel that Chloe is PERFECT for Clark:(

ANYWAYS, what sort of message does it send to the young Superman fans, if QUALITIES like CHLOE'S, do not meet Clark's criteria for the PERFECT GIRL? Superman is not suppose to be shallow. . .it would be pretty sad:(, if Chloe got overlooked, because she doesn't wear her sexuality on her sleeve, like some people on the show do:rolleyes: Look, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but your tone and attitude is uncalled for. You don't have to throw it in our face that Clark only sees Chloe as a friend, which I think you're wrong! Sure in the past, there were times when we could have just labeled them friends, BUT things change! It sounds to me like you can't except the fact that Chloe and Clark may actually TRULY LOVE ONE ANOTHER :D Chloe has proven to NOT ONLY be the PERFECT FRIEND, BUT ALSO THE PERFECT MATE:

*CLARK TRUSTS HER MORE THAN ANYONE. CHLOE HAS BEEN HIS ROCK, AND LATELY, CLARK HAS BEEN HERS.

*IN SEASON 1 AND 2, HE WAS CLEARLY TORN BETWEEN LANA AND CHLOE.

*IN SEASON 2, CLARK DIDN'T PURSUE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHLOE, BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO PROTECT HERSELF AND THEIR FRIENDSHIP. HOWEVER, CLARK WAS STILL CLEARLY JEALOUS WHENEVER CHLOE GOT ATTENTION FROM OTHER GUYS.

*CLARK FINDS CHLOE ATTRACTIVE: BOUND ANYONE?

*CLARK HAS FEELINGS FOR HER: I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'D DO WITHOUT YOU; YOU MEAN A LOT MORE TO ME THAN YOU KNOW (LABYRINTH), AND I CAN'T SAY THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT (HE'S THOUGHT ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH HER - CRIMSON).

So please spare us the lecture about Superman cannon :rolleyes:, because we ALL know that not everything in the mythos is set in stone.

Your so more than worng!!! Yes not everythong is set to stonw but one thing is, CLARK AND LOIS END UP TOGETHER!! NOT CHLOE!!!!!! CHLOE WASNT EVEN APART OF ANY SUPERMAN STORY!! you can save your little lecture for someone who cares, and i dont. what i say stands. smallville is meant to tell the story of the early superman, not please chlark wannabes.

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
LOL I just snuck onto my laptop to write back, I'm in LA photographing a few bands for Trauma Records right now, and won't be home till Monday. When I saw the post's I tried to get on last night but it wouldn't let me, so I had to create another, so you weren't defending alone LOL
I already figured Khyla out, and with the other Chloe fan's it just about getting Clark and Chloe together, and ignoring reality.
But if they all had more backround on Clark Kent/Superman, than just Smallville, then they would all realize, Clark Kent and Superman, young or Old. Is a symbol of Hope, Honor, and Intrigity and Loved by Millions around the world. Clark Kent has Moral's, and values, and isn't the type that does shallow meanless affairs, as all Chloe fan's hope for.
Because he is a Symbol of what's good in Mankind, and set's a Wonderful example, of what we could all be, if we tried.
Millions of kid's around the world tune in with their family's to watch Smallville. Even Kid's in Russia !! Yes !! Smallville is in Russia, I was quite surprised to see it on tv when I was out there.
( Wish I knew what they were saying Though !! ) LOL
And for 69 years, DC Comics has maintained the Intrigity of Clark Kent and Superman. Clark Kent lives by a higher standard, that all people can look up too, and admire. DC Comics and The writers for Smallville aren't going to throw that out the window, to cheapen the Clark Kent Character, by having an Affair with Chloe LOL They did Bend the storyline, with Clark and Lana being intimate, and Lex and Lana as was pointed out to me. I already knew this, but with Clark, it was done out of True Love for Lana.
He has only been with her that way on the show, everyone else, close !! But the writers had to cut it off, to keep with the Moral fiber, of who Clark Kent really is, in Smallville. Lana is a main character and been around for almost 69 years as well. So True Fan's of Clark Kent/Superman were ok with it.
Chloe fan's would rather live the lie, as you pointed out.
But we see the reality because we know the entire Saga of Superman and the young Clark Kent, and how the Ending will turn out. And Smallville is headed there right now. When that day comes all Superman/Clark Kent True Fan's will rejoice, while the Chloe fan's go yet into another fantasy angle and continue to live the lie they now believe.
By the way !! Your a great speaker yourself, and get the point across nicely !!

Thanks so much for the kind words!! It is so true on how Chloe fans are in their own little world when it comes to Smallville. If they only knew how little minded they sounded when they that the original Superman series has nothing to do with Smallville. Also that nothing is set in stone with the Superman series. They can't see the real outcome of Superman cause they are to caught up in the fantasy of Chloe and Clark. They are not each others true love, as chlark=destinty pointed out. It drives me up the wall when people like them think that we are wrong and they are right. Maybe they need to keep up the true story like us.

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Alright, yes Clark Kent/Superman is suppose to represent everything good and moral, BUT even HE has flaws. . .ie. moping and obsessing over Lana:rolleyes: He may be a kryptonian, BUT he was raised by humans, therefore, he was brought up to have human emotions. There's nothing wrong with that:)

Khyla, you are absolutely right about Clark and Lois' "friendship". . .where exactly is this "great" friendship/relationship :rolleyes: I sure as heck don't see it:confused: All I ever see from them is the constant bickering like two siblings and the "occasional" sexual attraction to one another. UNLIKE CLOIS, CHLARK actually hang out together (go on picnics, coffee), call and visit each other, and confide in one another:D. . .IMO, that is how I DEFINE A RELATIONSHIP, WHETHER IT IS FRIENDSHIP OR MORE :D

Ok, in case you've noticed when people fight and bicker and then get into a relashinship thats how the great one's start. Are you blind or have yo not seen the writers promoting Clark and Lois and moving them closer and closer together every season. Every Chlark fan needs to give up, cause its not gonna happen. Chloe's cruch is so highschool and childish. She has a weird way of showing her "love". I would'nt really call it love more obessed.

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
History?! History?! Please do not tell me that you are that delusional to call the Superman story history. . .WWII is history, 9/11 is history, the fall of the Roman Empire is history. . .Superman is a comic book. . .there are tons of versions of Superman out there, and they are ALL different!

There have been close to a dozen Superman tv shows over the years, and every single one of those have been different. In most of them, he doesn't even end up with Lois. In most of the older stories, which you claim you want to stick to, he can't have Lois, because he was afraid that knowing his secret would endanger her (Similar the relationship between Spiderman and Mary-Jane). Superman and Lois ended up married in one of the movies and in the Lois and Clark tv series, BUT that just goes to show you that the story does and can get changed everytime the story is told. When I was a kid, there was a ridiculous cartoon series called Justice League, where all of the characters from all the different comic books were in a club fighting crime together. No one cared if they were "following the story." Superman is a fictional character here for our entertainment. You act like the stuff in the Superman story came from the bible.

In conclusion, Smallville CAN and HAS changed the Superman story. It's ridiculous to think that it would be violating something sacred to have something different happen:rolleyes:. I don't see why having Chloe and Clark get together would be such a BIG deal:confused:

Ok for one, Lois and Clark are meant tp be together, no matter how they end up in every story they are meant to me together. You Chlark fans are SOOOO deluted its sad. At least I can live on somethin that will happen, maybe not on Smallville, but is true and honest. Not a relashinship that is dishonest, and not true. Clark has never loved Chloe. Sure he got jelous but when has Clark not gotten jelous over any of 'his girls'? Clark will NEVER love Chloe, no matter what you think. It's not meaningful. It would be a waste of time. They are good together in the friend zone, but not in a romantic relashinship, it's just not right.

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
OooH apparently I struck to close to home and unnerved you LOL
Speaking about the History of Superman, to explain in simple terms you can understand. The origin of the beginning to where it is now, and how that storyline has remained pretty much the same as it has for 69 years. So I wouldn't call that being delusional, as you put It LOL It is the DC Comics History of a Fictional Comicbook Character, of which I spoke. But you knew that already didn't you ? It was just your way, of trying to cast an insult my way. A 5 year old could have figured that out.
Having owned 3 Comicbook Stores through out my Life I know Superman's Comicbook and Movie History extremely well.
And yes there are many versions through the years, but again, who Superman the Character is, did not change. His 3 main loves were the 3 L's Lana Lori and Lois. I can tell by the way you speak you are from my generation or a bit older, and read alot of the same comics I did as a kid. Spiderman was a clue LOL
So you should know this, and know what I'm saying is true.
As for the cartoons you watched as a kid, everyone knows cartoons don't follow storylines all the time. When I was a kid, it was The Super Friends, with the Wonder Twins ! LOL Remember them ? They were never part of The JLA, but in the cartoon they were. And as much as they bounced Superman around from title to title, it always came back to Lois Lane being Superman's Girlfriend. Lois even got her own comicbook title Called
" Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane " I'm not making this up LOL
And your right, as kid's we could care less about them following a storyline. We just wanted to see our heroes !! But as adult's we do start to care about the storylines of our childhood heroes.
Right now in the Comicbook stores, there's a different twist where Superman and Wonder Woman come together, and it was interesting to read, and I personally like that Idea better, but again, DC Comics call's the shot's on their characters, and it was only an Imaginary tale, kind of a What If !!
Superman has been around since 1938, and DC Comics used him as a symbol in World War II To give our children at that time Hope for the world, and feel safer thinking they had their Hero out fighting the Nazi's. When 911 happened, DC Comics used The Superman character to help the real Heroes of 911, the Policemen and Fire Dept, and had a special comics showcase with the money going towards helping those who were affected that day. Though as you put it, he is a fictional character, that doesn't make him, any less a Symbol of Hope, for millions of Children all over the world. And as a Symbol of hope, that stands for Honor Truth and Intrigity, and doing what is morally right. It would be alittle hard for DC Comics or the Writers of Smallville, to dishonor that symbol with such a shallow untaking as having a fling, just for the heck of it, due to sexual attraction. That's for Lex LOL
Clark Kent on Smallville, has some human bad traits, but he has already shown all the things I just explained, During every season so far. That's why they won't cross the line with Clark and Chloe. Love Interests come and go, as we know in real Life. True Friends Last longer.
LOL As for thinking that I think the stuff coming out of the Superman story is from the Bible LOL What planet are you from ?? LOL Clark and the Superman Saga is a fictional Character here for our entertainment, just like you said. You should remember that, when you think of Chloe !! Fictional Character !!
Because you and a few others have lost sight of that.
As for the Bible quote, I gather your are not a Church going guy or gal. Because what I said had nothing to do with God or the bible. It had to do with the Symbol Clark Kent is to Millions of the smaller fan's who look at him on Smallville as a role model.
Clark Kent is about Honor, Loyalty and what's Morally right. Always trying to do the right thing, reaching out to help others in need, defending the weak. What a good example, he shows every week on Smallville for our kid's to see. Wouldn't you agree ?
So why would DC Comics and the writers and producers, ruin that and set a bad example for them to see their Hero in ?
They won't !
But it's sad that so many would want to cast everything aside to have two fictional characters, have a meanless fling to satisfy their own personal wants, because they view themselves as Chloe, or Clark getting Chloe LOL That's what is really delusional.
Because as you put it, They are just fictional Characters. But we all adore them !! LOL Again I enjoyed sparing with you it was Refreshing. I Look forward to your next mean letter LOL
Just kidding LOL I like you !! You get me going LOL And your fun !
Best Wishes too you !!

In responce to....

In conclusion, Smallville CAN and HAS changed the Superman story. It's ridiculous to think that it would be violating something sacred to have something different happen. I don't see why having Chloe and Clark get together would be such a BIG deal

Though they have changed some of the format from the Superman Story for the TV Show" Smallville " The one thing you keep failing to notice is this. Clark Kent is above such things, as shown in Smallville Season after Season. He know's the differance between right and wrong. And for his character, becoming intimate is a very personal and serious matter that he doesn't take lightly. He's not a hop into bed with a person and have a fling, type guy. If he was, he would have followed through with Alicia, and a few others. Even when he was mind controlled or on Red K, he never crossed the line. Think about that ! Kissing was as far as it got. DC comics won't let it happen, with Chloe or anyone else, after Lana. Lois is the next Love of Clark's Life.
Move on guy's get over it !! Face the fact you and I don't have control over the show. DC Comics & Time Warner does !
They have to keep it that way for The Superman Movie Saga after the Return of Superman came out last year.
That's why Chloe and Clark won't be. And that's the real reason.

I love your insite!! you have said it all! What more can I really say. We feel all of the same things!!! SO if anybody wants to know how I feel I'll tell them to come and read your post!! You have really layed it out on the table. We make a great team!!

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Well, I got to give you props. . .you sure know your Superman "history," as you put it:lol: HOWEVER, I am not from the same generation as you. I'm actually a married female in my late 20's, BUT I do KNOW A LOT about Superman cannon, as I have already proven. Don't let my age fool you:lol:

I grew up LOVING the story of Superman, and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I AM A FAN OF LOIS LANE;) I'm just NOT a fan of SV's "LOIS LANE". . .you catch my drift? The Iconic Lois Lane that I KNOW embodies certain characteristics that EDLois DOES NOT HAVE. This is what I know about the ILL:

*SHE'S AN OVERACHIEVER. . .EDLOIS IS NOT

*SHE HAS A DEGREE IN JOURNALISM. . .UNLIKE EDLOIS WHO IS A COLLEGE DROP-OUT

*IT WAS HER DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DAILY PLANET, AND SHE EVEN WAS ONE OF THE YOUNGEST INTERNS TO WORK THERE. . .IT HAS NEVER BEEN EDLOIS' DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DP

*SHE HAS CLASS AND DOESN'T RESORT TO "EXPOSING" HER BODY TO GET WHAT SHE WANTS. . .EXPOSED ANYONE?

ALL of these ILL traits listed above DESCRIBE CHLOE;) Now, I'm not going to turn this into a CHLOIS discussion, BUT CHLOE IS SV'S VERSION OF LOIS LANE:D This is why I LOVE CHLOE SO MUCH and WANT HER TO BE WITH CLARK!;)

Now I know that I got a little off of the subject, BUT I just want you to understand why so many of us CHLARKERS feel the way we do. It's NOT that we don't like LOIS LANE; It's just that SV'S version of Lois Lane (EDLOIS) pales in comparison to the ICONIC LOIS LANE, and the person who comes closet to that on SV IS CHLOE;) She is the one who deserves to write the BIG story about Superman, NOT EDLOIS! What's sad is the fact that Al/Miles have painted themselves into a corner:rolleyes: How are they going to EVER expect the audience to BELIEVE that EDLOIS will be the ONE to write Superman's story, when Chloe was the one who has been his #1 secret-keeper and has stuck beside him through EVERYTHING?!:confused:. . .Yeah, that's really going to be believeable. . .PLEASE:rolleyes:

Well, it was nice sparring with you, BUT I got to go to bed:lol: Oh, I liked your letter too:lol: I'll be waiting for your response tommorrow:)

I see what your saing about the whole smallville lois being different in all. But that's not the point. The point is that Lois and Clark are meant to be together, not Chloe and Clark. I to know my stuff, and the outcomes are different but the ultimate outcome will always be the same. On what you said about Chloe and Clark's secret. Haven't you ever taken into consideration that the only reason Chloe found out was because of Alichia?? If Alichia hadnt done that, can you honestly say that Clark would have told her??? You say Chloe has always been there for Clark? But what about the time she was working for Lionel to get info on Clark??? Yes she stopped, but of she's been so loyal to Clark all these years why'd she start in the first place???

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
[QUOTE]Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Well, I got to give you props. . .you sure know your Superman "history," as you put it:lol: HOWEVER, I am not from the same generation as you. I'm actually a married female in my late 20's, BUT I do KNOW A LOT about Superman cannon, as I have already proven. Don't let my age fool you:lol:

I grew up LOVING the story of Superman, and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I AM A FAN OF LOIS LANE;) I'm just NOT a fan of SV's "LOIS LANE". . .you catch my drift? The Iconic Lois Lane that I KNOW embodies certain characteristics that EDLois DOES NOT HAVE. This is what I know about the ILL:

*SHE'S AN OVERACHIEVER. . .EDLOIS IS NOT

*SHE HAS A DEGREE IN JOURNALISM. . .UNLIKE EDLOIS WHO IS A COLLEGE DROP-OUT

*IT WAS HER DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DAILY PLANET, AND SHE EVEN WAS ONE OF THE YOUNGEST INTERNS TO WORK THERE. . .IT HAS NEVER BEEN EDLOIS' DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DP

*SHE HAS CLASS AND DOESN'T RESORT TO "EXPOSING" HER BODY TO GET WHAT SHE WANTS. . .EXPOSED ANYONE?

ALL of these ILL traits listed above DESCRIBE CHLOE;) Now, I'm not going to turn this into a CHLOIS discussion, BUT CHLOE IS SV'S VERSION OF LOIS LANE:D This is why I LOVE CHLOE SO MUCH and WANT HER TO BE WITH CLARK!;)

Now I know that I got a little off of the subject, BUT I just want you to understand why so many of us CHLARKERS feel the way we do. It's NOT that we don't like LOIS LANE; It's just that SV'S version of Lois Lane (EDLOIS) pales in comparison to the ICONIC LOIS LANE, and the person who comes closet to that on SV IS CHLOE;) She is the one who deserves to write the BIG story about Superman, NOT EDLOIS! What's sad is the fact that Al/Miles have painted themselves into a corner:rolleyes: How are they going to EVER expect the audience to BELIEVE that EDLOIS will be the ONE to write Superman's story, when Chloe was the one who has been his #1 secret-keeper and has stuck beside him through EVERYTHING?!:confused:. . .Yeah, that's really going to be believeable. . .PLEASE:rolleyes:

Well, it was nice sparring with you, BUT I got to go to bed:lol: Oh, I liked your letter too:lol: I'll be waiting for your response tommorrow:) [/QUOTE

Oh How I hate LA in the morning ! Thank god for coffee and a laptop LOL !
I agree with you on the Smallville Lois not being what she should.
But after reading The Smallville magazine Lover's Lane. I finally understand the method of their maddness. If you watch Seasons 4 thru 6 again, you will catch what they are doing, with Lois and Clark. Little by little they are bringing them together, even though both are unaware of it. Lois admires Clark, though she'll never tell him LOL But she did tell Lana, and Martha in different show's that she did. And Clark Admires her for the strength inside her, and the way she has always been there for his family. He showed he had real feelings for her at the hospital when she was injured by the Glass controlling freak, when he took her hand without realizing it. They are all very faint hint's, but when you tie them all together, then I saw what Al/MIles were doing, as explained in the Smallville Magazine.
As for showing the body part's, sadly that's the writers wanting to pull in young men viewers, but my wife would agree with you, a little less skin LOL
Chloe does has the drive of a True Reporter, and without question, shares many of the same things that the True Lois Lane has from the comic's and Movies. But that's where it ends.
Because she wasn't chosen to be Lois Lane.
There have been many Lois Lanes through out the Saga of Superman, my favorite Noel Neall from the 1950's tv show. I didn't care for M. Kidder, or the new one Kate Bosworth, but I accept them, because they were chosen as Lois.
ED Lois is good, for the way she is playing the young Lois. It makes you remember a time that we were all alittle Wild and Crazy, and didn't know which direction we would go in Life.
That's what the writers are doing right now with Lois, but Lois will come into her own, and surpass Chloe with the News Gift in time. That's the only direction they have left LOL
With Chloe always being there and knowing his secret and knowing so much. The only real way to bring Lois above her would be to kill the Chloe character off, by accident or someone out to get her. It's the only thing that makes sense. Because Chloe doesn't go on after Smallville. She disappears. And we all know how Totally Obsessed Chloe is when it comes to Clark, she would never leave being apart of his life willingly. So it may be an outcome in Season 7 and the thing that finally brings Clark and Lois together. Both of them dealing with the Loss of Chloe.
When I was in New York a month ago, ( I Travel alot, I work with MTV ) I know alot of people in DC Comics, and they were speaking about that theory as a possibilty. So I am curious to see what happens next Season.
But the writers are headed towards bringing Lois and Clark together starting in Season 6 and more so in 7 and Lois will do a complete believable turn around and finally be focused and know her destiny as a News reporter. And Finally become the Lois Lane we all Love and adore as True Fan's of Smallville and the Superman Saga.
Nice speaking with you again, got to run, and make some RockStars look good now, on film LOL Just need one more expresso !! LOL
Ps Sorry I thought you were older and maybe a guy LOL I really should look at profiles LOL Forgive me !!

I couldnt have said it better myself!! Love you insite!! Love talking to you!! Everything I feel you've already wraped up! Nice way of saying everything!! My friend!

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
How I pegged you, was from your own words. You relate to yourself to much with Chloe and your own personal Life. And the way you speak of the character, is as though you were talking about yourself. I have read alot more of your posts. You seem jealous of the Lois Character. You've starting discussions about how you dislike her and how Chloe is so wonderful.
As for a SvFan deciating a website to one of your Theories. Nice to hear that you have a groupie LOL I deal with those types alot in my line of work in the Music Industry. But remember Theory or not DC Comics and Time Warner didn't Imbrace your thoughts orIdea's.
It was only an admirer of yours. So it doesn't matter.
Your theory isn't part of the DC Comics Universe, or Smallville's, only yours, and a few others who share in creating their own fantasy of what the characters should do, if it were up to them.
No harm in that ! More power too you !
But I have learned alot in life about people, from how they talk and phrase things. The Lois Bashing is uncalled for, but you seem to do it on a regular basis, proving my point, about pegging you.
If I was wrong, you wouldn't be trying so hard to get everyone down on Lois. Chloe is a wonderful character in Smallville, but she does have major personality flaws. Obsession with Clark, Jealousy, and a deep history of family mental health issues from her mother. Which tend to run in the family. Chloe herself has brought that subject up many times, through out Smallville's run.
I Like all the characters, flaws and all ! Yes even ( Lex ) LOL
It makes for a more interesting show. So why waste your time and energy bashing a character and finding way's to put the character down. I am a True Fan of the entire Superman/ Clark Kent Saga that includes Smallville. And I like the Chloe character. The only reason I have had to point out her flaw's was to prove a point to you all. Everyone of the characters has a flaw in one way or another. But you always single out Lois ! Thus proving my point, you think of yourself as Chloe ! That's the only logical answer. Look at your own posts, you even refer back to yourself all the time as being like Chlark

Part of your post :
If they were to read some of my more serious posts or fics they would know my sentiments are much the same as [b]chlark=destiny
Should we start calling you Chloe ?? Because I think that's who you think you are !
Stop the character bashing of Lois and Lana, and focus on the good things. And we will all stop engaging you in these debates.

Couldnt have said it better!! Thats what I was trying to get across to her!! She sees herslef as Chloe thats the only reasonable thing!! Well put, well put!

Khyla

03-02-2007, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
How I pegged you, was from your own words. You relate to yourself to much with Chloe and your own personal Life. And the way you speak of the character, is as though you were talking about yourself. I have read alot more of your posts. You seem jealous of the Lois Character. You've starting discussions about how you dislike her and how Chloe is so wonderful.
As for a SvFan deciating a website to one of your Theories. Nice to hear that you have a groupie LOL I deal with those types alot in my line of work in the Music Industry. But remember Theory or not DC Comics and Time Warner didn't Imbrace your thoughts orIdea's.
It was only an admirer of yours. So it doesn't matter.
Your theory isn't part of the DC Comics Universe, or Smallville's, only yours, and a few others who share in creating their own fantasy of what the characters should do, if it were up to them.
No harm in that ! More power too you !
But I have learned alot in life about people, from how they talk and phrase things. The Lois Bashing is uncalled for, but you seem to do it on a regular basis, proving my point, about pegging you.
If I was wrong, you wouldn't be trying so hard to get everyone down on Lois. Chloe is a wonderful character in Smallville, but she does have major personality flaws. Obsession with Clark, Jealousy, and a deep history of family mental health issues from her mother. Which tend to run in the family. Chloe herself has brought that subject up many times, through out Smallville's run.
I Like all the characters, flaws and all ! Yes even ( Lex ) LOL
It makes for a more interesting show. So why waste your time and energy bashing a character and finding way's to put the character down. I am a True Fan of the entire Superman/ Clark Kent Saga that includes Smallville. And I like the Chloe character. The only reason I have had to point out her flaw's was to prove a point to you all. Everyone of the characters has a flaw in one way or another. But you always single out Lois ! Thus proving my point, you think of yourself as Chloe ! That's the only logical answer. Look at your own posts, you even refer back to yourself all the time as being like Chlark

Part of your post :
If they were to read some of my more serious posts or fics they would know my sentiments are much the same as [b]chlark=destiny
Should we start calling you Chloe ?? Because I think that's who you think you are !
Stop the character bashing of Lois and Lana, and focus on the good things. And we will all stop engaging you in these debates. i'm sorry, but u must have me mixed up with another poster. I HAVE NEVER BASHED THE LOIS CHARACTER! as a matter of fact i've said i liked her character very much, just not as the ILL, but as an additional fun and dynamic character to the show (IMO Chloe is and always has been Iconic LL, so ED's additon was a surprise but i enjoy her very much).

please point out to me any post where i have bashed either Erica Durance or her character! If you can find one, someone was impersonating me!

I will admit to letting people know how sick to my stomach i find the constant regurgitation of the Clana relationship and subsequent stagnation of Clark's character, and the wishy-washiness of the Lana character. And it is a fact that i get physically sickened by it now to the point that I decided if they were to continue with it, i wouldn't put myself thru the torture of watching it anymore.

chlark=destiny

03-02-2007, 07:54 PM

Chloe does has the drive of a True Reporter, and without question, shares many of the same things that the True Lois Lane has from the comic's and Movies. But that's where it ends.
Because she wasn't chosen to be Lois Lane.
There have been many Lois Lanes through out the Saga of Superman, my favorite Noel Neall from the 1950's tv show. I didn't care for M. Kidder, or the new one Kate Bosworth, but I accept them, because they were chosen as Lois.
ED Lois is good, for the way she is playing the young Lois. It makes you remember a time that we were all alittle Wild and Crazy, and didn't know which direction we would go in Life.
That's what the writers are doing right now with Lois, but Lois will come into her own, and surpass Chloe with the News Gift in time. That's the only direction they have left LOL
With Chloe always being there and knowing his secret and knowing so much. The only real way to bring Lois above her would be to kill the Chloe character off, by accident or someone out to get her. It's the only thing that makes sense. Because Chloe doesn't go on after Smallville. She disappears. And we all know how Totally Obsessed Chloe is when it comes to Clark, she would never leave being apart of his life willingly. So it may be an outcome in Season 7 and the thing that finally brings Clark and Lois together. Both of them dealing with the Loss of Chloe.
When I was in New York a month ago, ( I Travel alot, I work with MTV ) I know alot of people in DC Comics, and they were speaking about that theory as a possibilty. So I am curious to see what happens next Season.
But the writers are headed towards bringing Lois and Clark together starting in Season 6 and more so in 7 and Lois will do a complete believable turn around and finally be focused and know her destiny as a News reporter. And Finally become the Lois Lane we all Love and adore as True Fan's of Smallville and the Superman Saga.
Nice speaking with you again, got to run, and make some RockStars look good now, on film LOL Just need one more expresso !! LOL
Ps Sorry I thought you were older and maybe a guy LOL I really should look at profiles LOL Forgive me !!

Ironically, I enjoy talking to you as well (you being a professed "Lois" fan);). . .you are a lot more fun to talk with than other antis on this messageboard:) Oh, and don't worry about thinking that I was older. . .my husband always picks on me for sounding TOO MATURE:lol:

You raise a lot of good points about SV's version of Lois Lane (EDLois). I agree that Al/Miles had to portray her as the young, wild, rusty version of Lois Lane, and I'm sure that one day, she will become the Lois Lane that we all know and LOVE, BUT I will ALWAYS see Chloe Sullivan as SV's LOIS LANE :).

I've watched this show for 6 years, and besides Clark, she has the GREATEST amount of CHARACTER developement. Despite Lionel Luthor helping her get an internship at the DP during her sophmore year, she has TRULY worked HARD to get where she is at. Chloe has had a tough life, yet she doesn't feel sorry for herself. When someone or something knocks her down, she just gets up and dusts herself off and learns to deal with it. I feel that she will do the same thing now that she is faced with a new crisis. She cares about people and has the utmost RESPECT for others. Chloe strives in the pursuit of the truth and justice; she is not afraid of fighting for what she believes in, whether verbally or physically. She is a ROLE MODEL to women, young and old :D I know that if I had a daughter, I would be happy if she looked at Chloe as the definition of what a lady should be. To sum Chloe's character up in one word: HERO(INE). . .That's how I see her:) She may not have superpowers like Clark, BUT she is a hero(ine) in her own right:D

As far as Chloe being killed off, I don't think that will happen. Al/Miles have TOO MUCH pride in this AWESOME character that they've created. Also, I know I can't post any spoilers here, but let's just say that since DC COMICS BOUGHT HER CHARACTER, she is now going to be included in SUPERMAN CANNON;) THEREFORE, HER CHARACTER IS GOING TO BE SAFE:D

FURTHERMORE, I find it hard to believe that they are going to allow Lois to surpass Chloe in journalism on SV:\ I also have it on good authority that Chloe will be moving UP at the DP, and she won't be moving sideways ;) So, I don't know if Lois will get as far as you think, at least NOT on SV:) Of course eventually she will, BUT she has a lot to learn, and who better to teach her than Chloe?:)

Well, it was great chatting with you again, but I must get going:) I hope to talk with you soon. . .it's nice that we can have an amicable debate without getting ugly. . .don't you agree?:)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by greysfan511
Your so more than worng!!! Yes not everythong is set to stonw but one thing is, CLARK AND LOIS END UP TOGETHER!! NOT CHLOE!!!!!! CHLOE WASNT EVEN APART OF ANY SUPERMAN STORY!! you can save your little lecture for someone who cares, and i dont. what i say stands. smallville is meant to tell the story of the early superman, not please chlark wannabes.[QUOTE]

OOOOHHHH, so MUCH HOSTILITY. . .APPARENTLY I hit a nerve:rolleyes:

[QUOTE]Thanks so much for the kind words!! It is so true on how Chloe fans are in their own little world when it comes to Smallville. If they only knew how little minded they sounded when they that the original Superman series has nothing to do with Smallville. Also that nothing is set in stone with the Superman series. They can't see the real outcome of Superman cause they are to caught up in the fantasy of Chloe and Clark. They are not each others true love, as chlark=destinty pointed out. It drives me up the wall when people like them think that we are wrong and they are right. Maybe they need to keep up the true story like us.[QUOTE]

It sounds to me that you are caught up in your own little fantasy as well, meaning that you can't stand the idea of having Clark love someone else besides Lois :rolleyes:. . .Gosh, I wonder how you have managed to SURVIVE the CLANA years :lol:

[QUOTE]Ok, in case you've noticed when people fight and bicker and then get into a relashinship thats how the great one's start. Are you blind or have yo not seen the writers promoting Clark and Lois and moving them closer and closer together every season. Every Chlark fan needs to give up, cause its not gonna happen. Chloe's cruch is so highschool and childish. She has a weird way of showing her "love". I would'nt really call it love more obessed.[QUOTE]

No, I can SEE PERFECTLY WELL THANK-YOU, and what I SEE is CHLARK CLOSENESS:D Every season they become CLOSER AND CLOSER. . .EVENTUALLY, it will be INEVITABLE, and a ROMANCE WILL FORM:) SORRY to disappoint you, BUT you are the one who is DELLUSIONAL:D

[QUOTE]Ok for one, Lois and Clark are meant tp be together, no matter how they end up in every story they are meant to me together. You Chlark fans are SOOOO deluted its sad. At least I can live on somethin that will happen, maybe not on Smallville, but is true and honest. Not a relashinship that is dishonest, and not true. Clark has never loved Chloe. Sure he got jelous but when has Clark not gotten jelous over any of 'his girls'? Clark will NEVER love Chloe, no matter what you think. It's not meaningful. It would be a waste of time. They are good together in the friend zone, but not in a romantic relashinship, it's just not right.[QUOTE]

How do you know if Clark does not love Chloe, or that he'll never love her?! Have you personally asked him?:lol: Oh, and how would it make it wrong if Clark does love Chloe?:confused: It sounds to me like you've drawn up your own conclusions about what's in Clark's heart. . .Last time I checked, he wasn't looking at Lois like he was in love with her. . .That look is reserved for Lana RIGHT NOW, BUT WILL SOON CHANGE WHEN HE SEES CHLOE FOR THE WONDERFUL WOMAN THAT SHE IS:)

[QUOTE]I see what your saing about the whole smallville lois being different in all. But that's not the point. The point is that Lois and Clark are meant to be together, not Chloe and Clark. I to know my stuff, and the outcomes are different but the ultimate outcome will always be the same. On what you said about Chloe and Clark's secret. Haven't you ever taken into consideration that the only reason Chloe found out was because of Alichia?? If Alichia hadnt done that, can you honestly say that Clark would have told her??? You say Chloe has always been there for Clark? But what about the time she was working for Lionel to get info on Clark??? Yes she stopped, but of she's been so loyal to Clark all these years why'd she start in the first place???[QUOTE]

YES, I BELIEVE THAT CLARK WOULD HAVE TOLD HER HIS SECRET IF ALICIA HADN'T. . .HE EVEN TELLS HER IN ARRIVAL THAT THERE WERE SO MANY TIMES THAT HE WANTED TO TELL HER! DESPITE HER PAST INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR WITH LIONEL LUTHOR, CLARK HAS FORGIVEN FOR THAT, AND HE TRUSTS HER MORE THAN ANYONE!!!!

greysfan511

03-02-2007, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Ironically, I enjoy talking to you as well (you being a professed "Lois" fan);). . .you are a lot more fun to talk with than other antis on this messageboard:) Oh, and don't worry about thinking that I was older. . .my husband always picks on me for sounding TOO MATURE:lol:

You raise a lot of good points about SV's version of Lois Lane (EDLois). I agree that Al/Miles had to portray her as the young, wild, rusty version of Lois Lane, and I'm sure that one day, she will become the Lois Lane that we all know and LOVE, BUT I will ALWAYS see Chloe Sullivan as SV's LOIS LANE :).

I've watched this show for 6 years, and besides Clark, she has the GREATEST amount of CHARACTER developement. Despite Lionel Luthor helping her get an internship at the DP during her sophmore year, she has TRULY worked HARD to get where she is at. Chloe has had a tough life, yet she doesn't feel sorry for herself. When someone or something knocks her down, she just gets up and dusts herself off and learns to deal with it. I feel that she will do the same thing now that she is faced with a new crisis. She cares about people and has the utmost RESPECT for others. Chloe strives in the pursuit of the truth and justice; she is not afraid of fighting for what she believes in, whether verbally or physically. She is a ROLE MODEL to women, young and old :D I know that if I had a daughter, I would be happy if she looked at Chloe as the definition of what a lady should be. To sum Chloe's character up in one word: HERO(INE). . .That's how I see her:) She may not have superpowers like Clark, BUT she is a hero(ine) in her own right:D

As far as Chloe being killed off, I don't think that will happen. Al/Miles have TOO MUCH pride in this AWESOME character that they've created. Also, I know I can't post any spoilers here, but let's just say that since DC COMICS BOUGHT HER CHARACTER, she is now going to be included in SUPERMAN CANNON;) THEREFORE, HER CHARACTER IS GOING TO BE SAFE:D

FURTHERMORE, I find it hard to believe that they are going to allow Lois to surpass Chloe in journalism on SV:\ I also have it on good authority that Chloe will be moving UP at the DP, and she won't be moving sideways ;) So, I don't know if Lois will get as far as you think, at least NOT on SV:) Of course eventually she will, BUT she has a lot to learn, and who better to teach her than Chloe?:)

Well, it was great chatting with you again, but I must get going:) I hope to talk with you soon. . .it's nice that we can have an amicable debate without getting ugly. . .don't you agree?:)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by greysfan511
Your so more than worng!!! Yes not everythong is set to stonw but one thing is, CLARK AND LOIS END UP TOGETHER!! NOT CHLOE!!!!!! CHLOE WASNT EVEN APART OF ANY SUPERMAN STORY!! you can save your little lecture for someone who cares, and i dont. what i say stands. smallville is meant to tell the story of the early superman, not please chlark wannabes.[QUOTE]

OOOOHHHH, so MUCH HOSTILITY. . .APPARENTLY I hit a nerve:rolleyes:

[QUOTE]Thanks so much for the kind words!! It is so true on how Chloe fans are in their own little world when it comes to Smallville. If they only knew how little minded they sounded when they that the original Superman series has nothing to do with Smallville. Also that nothing is set in stone with the Superman series. They can't see the real outcome of Superman cause they are to caught up in the fantasy of Chloe and Clark. They are not each others true love, as chlark=destinty pointed out. It drives me up the wall when people like them think that we are wrong and they are right. Maybe they need to keep up the true story like us.[QUOTE]

It sounds to me that you are caught up in your own little fantasy as well, meaning that you can't stand the idea of having Clark love someone else besides Lois :rolleyes:. . .Gosh, I wonder how you have managed to SURVIVE the CLANA years :lol:

[QUOTE]Ok, in case you've noticed when people fight and bicker and then get into a relashinship thats how the great one's start. Are you blind or have yo not seen the writers promoting Clark and Lois and moving them closer and closer together every season. Every Chlark fan needs to give up, cause its not gonna happen. Chloe's cruch is so highschool and childish. She has a weird way of showing her "love". I would'nt really call it love more obessed.[QUOTE]

No, I can SEE PERFECTLY WELL THANK-YOU, and what I SEE is CHLARK CLOSENESS:D Every season they become CLOSER AND CLOSER. . .EVENTUALLY, it will be INEVITABLE, and a ROMANCE WILL FORM:) SORRY to disappoint you, BUT you are the one who is DELLUSIONAL:D

[QUOTE]Ok for one, Lois and Clark are meant tp be together, no matter how they end up in every story they are meant to me together. You Chlark fans are SOOOO deluted its sad. At least I can live on somethin that will happen, maybe not on Smallville, but is true and honest. Not a relashinship that is dishonest, and not true. Clark has never loved Chloe. Sure he got jelous but when has Clark not gotten jelous over any of 'his girls'? Clark will NEVER love Chloe, no matter what you think. It's not meaningful. It would be a waste of time. They are good together in the friend zone, but not in a romantic relashinship, it's just not right.[QUOTE]

How do you know if Clark does not love Chloe, or that he'll never love her?! Have you personally asked him?:lol: Oh, and how would it make it wrong if Clark does love Chloe?:confused: It sounds to me like you've drawn up your own conclusions about what's in Clark's heart. . .Last time I checked, he wasn't looking at Lois like he was in love with her. . .That [I]look[I] is reserved for Lana RIGHT NOW, BUT WILL SOON CHANGE WHEN HE SEES CHLOE FOR THE WONDERFUL WOMAN THAT SHE IS:)

[QUOTE]I see what your saing about the whole smallville lois being different in all. But that's not the point. The point is that Lois and Clark are meant to be together, not Chloe and Clark. I to know my stuff, and the outcomes are different but the ultimate outcome will always be the same. On what you said about Chloe and Clark's secret. Haven't you ever taken into consideration that the only reason Chloe found out was because of Alichia?? If Alichia hadnt done that, can you honestly say that Clark would have told her??? You say Chloe has always been there for Clark? But what about the time she was working for Lionel to get info on Clark??? Yes she stopped, but of she's been so loyal to Clark all these years why'd she start in the first place???[QUOTE]

YES, I BELIEVE THAT CLARK WOULD HAVE TOLD HER HIS SECRET IF ALICIA HADN'T. . .HE EVEN TELLS HER IN [I]ARRIVAL[I] THAT THERE WERE SO MANY TIMES THAT HE WANTED TO TELL HER! DESPITE HER PAST INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR WITH LIONEL LUTHOR, CLARK HAS FORGIVEN FOR THAT, AND HE TRUSTS HER MORE THAN ANYONE!!!!

You are twisting my words around. But other than that, do you really think that we have to nasty. Yes I was annoyed, but I have my own opinions as do you and other people on this site. I was just stating what I know about the Superman mythology, I know what's going on in Smallville. I did survive the Clana years because I liked there relashinship for some time. It's just over these past two years were they have been uncomfortable with each other. I haven't like the Lexana relashinship one bit, and I'd rather have Clana any day over that. The point I was trying to get across about Clois, is that I know that they show very little intrest in each other romantically. I get what your saying about the whole Chlark getting clser through the years, they would as the mature. I've never been a big fan of Chlark so I just can't see them get together. I hope they dont, and they just stay friends cause I like that dynamic, but if it happends it happens. When I said that Clois is the future, I didn't mean they have to start now. But it will happen, maybe not on Smallville. But I do believe that as Smallville nears its end, Al/Miles will move closer to hinting at their relashinshp more. They've already done it this season, maybe not loads, but they've done it slightly. Another reason I don't want Chlark is because of Jimmy. I love that character and I love seeing him and Chloe. I know Smallville doensn't have to stick to Superman exactly, but they can't stray to far from the original story. I'm sorry that this has gotten out of hand, after all this is just a TV show. I do tend to get VERY defensive about my opinions and if I ofended you, I'm sorry. I really enjoy these arguments, even if they do get a little nasty. I understand that your are Chlark fan, just as I a Clois fan. I even know some people who are Lex/Chloe fans!! I appreciate your words, they have made me think on what I wanted to reply back. Obviously we have different opinons, and I would like to have less of a nasty converstion, more of a calmer one. Yes I admit it, you did hit a nerve, but when has that not happened to any of us??!! LOL. I guess I was a little harsh with my replys to you, but agian as you said " I must had hit a nerve." You did. But thats okay. That makes for good discussion right??? I'm eager for your reply!!

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Ironically, I enjoy talking to you as well (you being a professed "Lois" fan);). . .you are a lot more fun to talk with than other antis on this messageboard:) Oh, and don't worry about thinking that I was older. . .my husband always picks on me for sounding TOO MATURE:lol:

You raise a lot of good points about SV's version of Lois Lane (EDLois). I agree that Al/Miles had to portray her as the young, wild, rusty version of Lois Lane, and I'm sure that one day, she will become the Lois Lane that we all know and LOVE, BUT I will ALWAYS see Chloe Sullivan as SV's LOIS LANE :).

I've watched this show for 6 years, and besides Clark, she has the GREATEST amount of CHARACTER developement. Despite Lionel Luthor helping her get an internship at the DP during her sophmore year, she has TRULY worked HARD to get where she is at. Chloe has had a tough life, yet she doesn't feel sorry for herself. When someone or something knocks her down, she just gets up and dusts herself off and learns to deal with it. I feel that she will do the same thing now that she is faced with a new crisis. She cares about people and has the utmost RESPECT for others. Chloe strives in the pursuit of the truth and justice; she is not afraid of fighting for what she believes in, whether verbally or physically. She is a ROLE MODEL to women, young and old :D I know that if I had a daughter, I would be happy if she looked at Chloe as the definition of what a lady should be. To sum Chloe's character up in one word: HERO(INE). . .That's how I see her:) She may not have superpowers like Clark, BUT she is a hero(ine) in her own right:D

As far as Chloe being killed off, I don't think that will happen. Al/Miles have TOO MUCH pride in this AWESOME character that they've created. Also, I know I can't post any spoilers here, but let's just say that since DC COMICS BOUGHT HER CHARACTER, she is now going to be included in SUPERMAN CANNON;) THEREFORE, HER CHARACTER IS GOING TO BE SAFE:D

FURTHERMORE, I find it hard to believe that they are going to allow Lois to surpass Chloe in journalism on SV:\ I also have it on good authority that Chloe will be moving UP at the DP, and she won't be moving sideways ;) So, I don't know if Lois will get as far as you think, at least NOT on SV:) Of course eventually she will, BUT she has a lot to learn, and who better to teach her than Chloe?:)

Well, it was great chatting with you again, but I must get going:) I hope to talk with you soon. . .it's nice that we can have an amicable debate without getting ugly. . .don't you agree?:)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by greysfan511
Your so more than worng!!! Yes not everythong is set to stonw but one thing is, CLARK AND LOIS END UP TOGETHER!! NOT CHLOE!!!!!! CHLOE WASNT EVEN APART OF ANY SUPERMAN STORY!! you can save your little lecture for someone who cares, and i dont. what i say stands. smallville is meant to tell the story of the early superman, not please chlark wannabes.[QUOTE]

OOOOHHHH, so MUCH HOSTILITY. . .APPARENTLY I hit a nerve:rolleyes:

[QUOTE]Thanks so much for the kind words!! It is so true on how Chloe fans are in their own little world when it comes to Smallville. If they only knew how little minded they sounded when they that the original Superman series has nothing to do with Smallville. Also that nothing is set in stone with the Superman series. They can't see the real outcome of Superman cause they are to caught up in the fantasy of Chloe and Clark. They are not each others true love, as chlark=destinty pointed out. It drives me up the wall when people like them think that we are wrong and they are right. Maybe they need to keep up the true story like us.[QUOTE]

It sounds to me that you are caught up in your own little fantasy as well, meaning that you can't stand the idea of having Clark love someone else besides Lois :rolleyes:. . .Gosh, I wonder how you have managed to SURVIVE the CLANA years :lol:

[QUOTE]Ok, in case you've noticed when people fight and bicker and then get into a relashinship thats how the great one's start. Are you blind or have yo not seen the writers promoting Clark and Lois and moving them closer and closer together every season. Every Chlark fan needs to give up, cause its not gonna happen. Chloe's cruch is so highschool and childish. She has a weird way of showing her "love". I would'nt really call it love more obessed.[QUOTE]

No, I can SEE PERFECTLY WELL THANK-YOU, and what I SEE is CHLARK CLOSENESS:D Every season they become CLOSER AND CLOSER. . .EVENTUALLY, it will be INEVITABLE, and a ROMANCE WILL FORM:) SORRY to disappoint you, BUT you are the one who is DELLUSIONAL:D

Ok I understand your side, but none of us are really dellusinal. We have different views on how things will turn out. As I said n the reply below, I have never liked Chlark. I hope it doesnt happen. Maybe their relashinship will turn romantic, but maybe it wont. We'll just have to wait and see, instead of deciding the future as I did earlier which I apoligize for. Can I ask you a question? Not to make you mad, but in your opinoin do you think that Chloe and Clark will be the ultimate couple, or do you just want them together on SV, and do you even like the idea that Clois will happen in later years?

[QUOTE]Ok for one, Lois and Clark are meant tp be together, no matter how they end up in every story they are meant to me together. You Chlark fans are SOOOO deluted its sad. At least I can live on somethin that will happen, maybe not on Smallville, but is true and honest. Not a relashinship that is dishonest, and not true. Clark has never loved Chloe. Sure he got jelous but when has Clark not gotten jelous over any of 'his girls'? Clark will NEVER love Chloe, no matter what you think. It's not meaningful. It would be a waste of time. They are good together in the friend zone, but not in a romantic relashinship, it's just not right.[QUOTE]

How do you know if Clark does not love Chloe, or that he'll never love her?! Have you personally asked him?:lol: Oh, and how would it make it wrong if Clark does love Chloe?:confused: It sounds to me like you've drawn up your own conclusions about what's in Clark's heart. . .Last time I checked, he wasn't looking at Lois like he was in love with her. . .That look is reserved for Lana RIGHT NOW, BUT WILL SOON CHANGE WHEN HE SEES CHLOE FOR THE WONDERFUL WOMAN THAT SHE IS:)

[QUOTE]I see what your saing about the whole smallville lois being different in all. But that's not the point. The point is that Lois and Clark are meant to be together, not Chloe and Clark. I to know my stuff, and the outcomes are different but the ultimate outcome will always be the same. On what you said about Chloe and Clark's secret. Haven't you ever taken into consideration that the only reason Chloe found out was because of Alichia?? If Alichia hadnt done that, can you honestly say that Clark would have told her??? You say Chloe has always been there for Clark? But what about the time she was working for Lionel to get info on Clark??? Yes she stopped, but of she's been so loyal to Clark all these years why'd she start in the first place???[QUOTE]

YES, I BELIEVE THAT CLARK WOULD HAVE TOLD HER HIS SECRET IF ALICIA HADN'T. . .HE EVEN TELLS HER IN ARRIVAL THAT THERE WERE SO MANY TIMES THAT HE WANTED TO TELL HER! DESPITE HER PAST INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR WITH LIONEL LUTHOR, CLARK HAS FORGIVEN FOR THAT, AND HE TRUSTS HER MORE THAN ANYONE!!!!

chlark=destiny

03-02-2007, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
You are twisting my words around. But other than that, do you really think that we have to nasty. Yes I was annoyed, but I have my own opinions as do you and other people on this site. I was just stating what I know about the Superman mythology, I know what's going on in Smallville. I did survive the Clana years because I liked there relashinship for some time. It's just over these past two years were they have been uncomfortable with each other. I haven't like the Lexana relashinship one bit, and I'd rather have Clana any day over that. The point I was trying to get across about Clois, is that I know that they show very little intrest in each other romantically. I get what your saying about the whole Chlark getting clser through the years, they would as the mature. I've never been a big fan of Chlark so I just can't see them get together. I hope they dont, and they just stay friends cause I like that dynamic, but if it happends it happens. When I said that Clois is the future, I didn't mean they have to start now. But it will happen, maybe not on Smallville. But I do believe that as Smallville nears its end, Al/Miles will move closer to hinting at their relashinshp more. They've already done it this season, maybe not loads, but they've done it slightly. Another reason I don't want Chlark is because of Jimmy. I love that character and I love seeing him and Chloe. I know Smallville doensn't have to stick to Superman exactly, but they can't stray to far from the original story. I'm sorry that this has gotten out of hand, after all this is just a TV show. I do tend to get VERY defensive about my opinions and if I ofended you, I'm sorry. I really enjoy these arguments, even if they do get a little nasty. I understand that your are Chlark fan, just as I a Clois fan. I even know some people who are Lex/Chloe fans!! I appreciate your words, they have made me think on what I wanted to reply back. Obviously we have different opinons, and I would like to have less of a nasty converstion, more of a calmer one. Yes I admit it, you did hit a nerve, but when has that not happened to any of us??!! LOL. I guess I was a little harsh with my replys to you, but agian as you said " I must had hit a nerve." You did. But thats okay. That makes for good discussion right??? I'm eager for your reply!!

I guess we can all get a little carried away, when discussing our ships. . .After all, just like you said, it's only a TV show:lol: I, too, am sorry for allowing our conversation to get personal. SV is here for our own personal enjoyment, and although I do not share your views, I do and have to respect them:) In the future let's try to remember this conversation before we start to verbally assasinate one another:lol: AGAIN, thanks for apologizing, and I'm sorry if I offended you:(

greysfan511

03-03-2007, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
I guess we can all get a little carried away, when discussing our ships. . .After all, just like you said, it's only a TV show:lol: I, too, am sorry for allowing our conversation to get personal. SV is here for our own personal enjoyment, and although I do not share your views, I do and have to respect them:) In the future let's try to remember this conversation before we start to verbally assasinate one another:lol: AGAIN, thanks for apologizing, and I'm sorry if I offended you:(

Yes, I to respect your views and opinions. Like you did say that SV is here for our enjoyment and it's not meant to get personal, as it did. I'm looking forward to having a more calmer disscussion.

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
I guess we can all get a little carried away, when discussing our ships. . .After all, just like you said, it's only a TV show:lol: I, too, am sorry for allowing our conversation to get personal. SV is here for our own personal enjoyment, and although I do not share your views, I do and have to respect them:) In the future let's try to remember this conversation before we start to verbally assasinate one another:lol: AGAIN, thanks for apologizing, and I'm sorry if I offended you:(

Can I ask you a question? Not to make you mad, but in your opinoin do you think that Chloe and Clark will be the ultimate couple, or do you just want them together on SV, and do you even like the idea that Clois will happen in later years? I really would like to know your opinion on this, since it never really got across.

chlark=destiny

03-04-2007, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by greysfan511
Yes, I to respect your views and opinions. Like you did say that SV is here for our enjoyment and it's not meant to get personal, as it did. I'm looking forward to having a more calmer disscussion.

Can I ask you a question? Not to make you mad, but in your opinoin do you think that Chloe and Clark will be the ultimate couple, or do you just want them together on SV, and do you even like the idea that Clois will happen in later years? I really would like to know your opinion on this, since it never really got across.

Well, to be honest, A LOT of fans believed that CHLARK would eventually happen sometime during the series, since their relationship was foreshadowed back in Season 2 - "Fever Letter" - "The Girl He'll Grow Into":) Don't get me wrong, I ALWAYS knew that eventually Clark Kent/Superman ends up with Lois Lane, BUT SV has dropped SO MANY hints to a CHLARK romance that it's kind of hard to ignore:)

On another note, I don't know if you are aware of this, but there were some last minute rewrites this season. After the events of "Crimson," Chloe was suppose to "re-evaluate her feelings for Clark," and Jimmy and Chloe were supposed to be broken up for good. This was actually an official CW description. HOWEVER, none of this happened. It was rumored that Chloe and Clark were supposed to get involved in a relationship, BUT when AL/MILES got a FIRM confirmation for Season 7 and possibly 8, they pulled the PLUG on CHLARK FOR NOW. ALSO, Steven Deknight, who is a SV writer, has his own Myspace Blog. A Chloe fan asked him why Clark's potential love interest (Chloe) that was foreshadowed back in season 2 has been quickly forgotten. His response was (this should make you smile): "Clark Kent will one day end up with Lois. We can't change that. But who knows what might happen between now and then?" Deknight was very vague, BUT he inspired a lot of HOPE for CHLARK ;) PLUS, Al/Miles said that they can't do a Lois and Clark romance due to DC Comics restrictions, but they can show hints of their future relationship;) My theory is that AL/MILES will eventually honor what they foreshadowed back in season 2, meaning having Chloe and Clark in a relationship, but they will also foreshadow the future love between Clark and Lois ;) Everybody wins;)

Oh and to answer your question about whether or not I like ClOIS, my answer is YES. Are you shocked?:lol: Like I stated before, I do not have a problem with CLOIS or Lois Lane for that matter. I just have a problem with SV's version of Lois lane = EDLois (Also, I don't have a problem with Erica Durance, just the character she portrays, which I know that she has no control over that:)). However, I've always felt that Lois Lane should have never been brought on SV, because it just always seemed too weird. BUT that's just my opinion:).

I hope that I have clarified where I stand on the CHLARK vs. CLOIS issues:) It was great chatting with you, and I hope to talk with you again soon;)

greysfan511

03-04-2007, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Well, to be honest, A LOT of fans believed that CHLARK would eventually happen sometime during the series, since their relationship was foreshadowed back in Season 2 - "Fever Letter" - "The Girl He'll Grow Into":) Don't get me wrong, I ALWAYS knew that eventually Clark Kent/Superman ends up with Lois Lane, BUT SV has dropped SO MANY hints to a CHLARK romance that it's kind of hard to ignore:)

On another note, I don't know if you are aware of this, but there were some last minute rewrites this season. After the events of "Crimson," Chloe was suppose to "re-evaluate her feelings for Clark," and Jimmy and Chloe were supposed to be broken up for good. This was actually an official CW description. HOWEVER, none of this happened. It was rumored that Chloe and Clark were supposed to get involved in a relationship, BUT when AL/MILES got a FIRM confirmation for Season 7 and possibly 8, they pulled the PLUG on CHLARK FOR NOW. ALSO, Steven Deknight, who is a SV writer, has his own Myspace Blog. A Chloe fan asked him why Clark's potential love interest (Chloe) that was foreshadowed back in season 2 has been quickly forgotten. His response was (this should make you smile): "Clark Kent will one day end up with Lois. We can't change that. But who knows what might happen between now and then?" Deknight was very vague, BUT he inspired a lot of HOPE for CHLARK ;) PLUS, Al/Miles said that they can't do a Lois and Clark romance due to DC Comics restrictions, but they can show hints of their future relationship;) My theory is that AL/MILES will eventually honor what they foreshadowed back in season 2, meaning having Chloe and Clark in a relationship, but they will also foreshadow the future love between Clark and Lois ;) Everybody wins;)

Oh and to answer your question about whether or not I like ClOIS, my answer is YES. Are you shocked?:lol: Like I stated before, I do not have a problem with CLOIS or Lois Lane for that matter. I just have a problem with SV's version of Lois lane = EDLois (Also, I don't have a problem with Erica Durance, just the character she portrays, which I know that she has no control over that:)). However, I've always felt that Lois Lane should have never been brought on SV, because it just always seemed too weird. BUT that's just my opinion:).

I hope that I have clarified where I stand on the CHLARK vs. CLOIS issues:) It was great chatting with you, and I hope to talk with you again soon;)

Thanks for all that info. I knew hardly any of it. I compleatly get what your saying about the whole Chlark foreshawdowing thing. It makes sense. I also agree that SV can't really put Clark and Lois together. I mean really it wouldn't make sense due to the fact that in the latest Superman movie Clark and Lois aren't REALLY officially together yet. I can understand though SV playing around with Clois a little bit, hinting at it, like you said. I was intrested to hear what you stated about the changing of the story lines. That never crossed my mind! Thats very intresting.
I'm curious as to what will happen in these coming episodes. Alot of things will come out and the story will change ALOT I think. I haven't heard anything yet about a Chlark relashinship, but I am pretty sure that Aaron Ashmore is done on Smallville. He was only signed on for a number of episodes, and I think he's done. So I'm curious to see how that will influence everything. If you haven't heard or read, In the episode "Progeny", a major spoiler is revealed! If you havent heard, this is what i basically read: Lana gets knocked around a bit by a man hired by Lex and mind controlled by Chloe's mom, to kill Lex. He runs in Lana and knocks her around, Clark interviens (as usual) and is worried about Lana's baby, and Clark wants to take her to the hospital. Lana then tells Clark that she has already lost the baby (wonder when that happens?), Clark takes her to the hospital anyway. Lana gets a test done to find out why she miscarried and the tests tell her that she was never preganant, and that she was injected with a hormonal replicate that replicates symptoms of pregnany. I thought that was very intresting, and I'm curious as to what kind of story that will add. Just thought that was a piece of info that was intresting. Kinda off the topic of Chlark, but it intrested me, so I thought I'd let you know! I look forward to your reply!

Mackdaddy

03-04-2007, 09:38 PM

Woops:\ I'll just come back later ;)

PhotoStarz

03-04-2007, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
Your so more than worng!!! Yes not everythong is set to stonw but one thing is, CLARK AND LOIS END UP TOGETHER!! NOT CHLOE!!!!!! CHLOE WASNT EVEN APART OF ANY SUPERMAN STORY!! you can save your little lecture for someone who cares, and i dont. what i say stands. smallville is meant to tell the story of the early superman, not please chlark wannabes.

Thanks so much for the kind words!! It is so true on how Chloe fans are in their own little world when it comes to Smallville. If they only knew how little minded they sounded when they that the original Superman series has nothing to do with Smallville. Also that nothing is set in stone with the Superman series. They can't see the real outcome of Superman cause they are to caught up in the fantasy of Chloe and Clark. They are not each others true love, as chlark=destinty pointed out. It drives me up the wall when people like them think that we are wrong and they are right. Maybe they need to keep up the true story like us.

Ok, in case you've noticed when people fight and bicker and then get into a relashinship thats how the great one's start. Are you blind or have yo not seen the writers promoting Clark and Lois and moving them closer and closer together every season. Every Chlark fan needs to give up, cause its not gonna happen. Chloe's cruch is so highschool and childish. She has a weird way of showing her "love". I would'nt really call it love more obessed.

Ok for one, Lois and Clark are meant tp be together, no matter how they end up in every story they are meant to me together. You Chlark fans are SOOOO deluted its sad. At least I can live on somethin that will happen, maybe not on Smallville, but is true and honest. Not a relashinship that is dishonest, and not true. Clark has never loved Chloe. Sure he got jelous but when has Clark not gotten jelous over any of 'his girls'? Clark will NEVER love Chloe, no matter what you think. It's not meaningful. It would be a waste of time. They are good together in the friend zone, but not in a romantic relashinship, it's just not right.

I love your insite!! you have said it all! What more can I really say. We feel all of the same things!!! SO if anybody wants to know how I feel I'll tell them to come and read your post!! You have really layed it out on the table. We make a great team!!

I see what your saing about the whole smallville lois being different in all. But that's not the point. The point is that Lois and Clark are meant to be together, not Chloe and Clark. I to know my stuff, and the outcomes are different but the ultimate outcome will always be the same. On what you said about Chloe and Clark's secret. Haven't you ever taken into consideration that the only reason Chloe found out was because of Alichia?? If Alichia hadnt done that, can you honestly say that Clark would have told her??? You say Chloe has always been there for Clark? But what about the time she was working for Lionel to get info on Clark??? Yes she stopped, but of she's been so loyal to Clark all these years why'd she start in the first place???

I couldnt have said it better myself!! Love you insite!! Love talking to you!! Everything I feel you've already wraped up! Nice way of saying everything!! My friend!

Couldnt have said it better!! Thats what I was trying to get across to her!! She sees herslef as Chloe thats the only reasonable thing!! Well put, well put!

Sorry I couldn't get on line sooner, Such is the life of a MTV photographer . I have been very busy the last couple of day's, getting photo's just right. I see the Chloe fan's are still fighting LOL Why I have no idea ! I guess the truth hurt's about their favorite. Knowing the History as we do, they seem to not want to see the real reality of where the DC Comic's Universe is Headed, with Clark and Lois. It's even spelled out for them by Al/Miles in the Smallville Magazine, yet still they argue LOL
That's where the proof lie's in my point about, some of these people thinking in some strange way, that they are Chloe, because they either look like her in reality or think she is like them, and if Chloe get's Clark, then they will in a way too ! LOL
I am Amazed by this. But that is the real reason they fight so hard, for a meanless, shallow hook up to happen between the two characters. Rather than follow the 69 year old history of Clark Kent who becomes Superman.
As for this Superman Cannon, forgive me, I haven't heard of this, so I can't make an honest statement without more info.
Maybe you know, and can fill me in on this. It sounds interesting.
Because I far as I know from my Friends in DC Comics, the Chloe character will not be, after Smallville's run is over. But once I know the source, I can check in New York, and know if it's true or not in a heartbeat. Sorry I let you fight alone for a while. My career put's alot of demands on me. LOL Keep up the good fight greysfan11

PhotoStarz

03-05-2007, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Well, I got to give you props. . .you sure know your Superman "history," as you put it:lol: HOWEVER, I am not from the same generation as you. I'm actually a married female in my late 20's, BUT I do KNOW A LOT about Superman cannon, as I have already proven. Don't let my age fool you:lol:

I grew up LOVING the story of Superman, and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I AM A FAN OF LOIS LANE;) I'm just NOT a fan of SV's "LOIS LANE". . .you catch my drift? The Iconic Lois Lane that I KNOW embodies certain characteristics that EDLois DOES NOT HAVE. This is what I know about the ILL:

*SHE'S AN OVERACHIEVER. . .EDLOIS IS NOT

*SHE HAS A DEGREE IN JOURNALISM. . .UNLIKE EDLOIS WHO IS A COLLEGE DROP-OUT

*IT WAS HER DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DAILY PLANET, AND SHE EVEN WAS ONE OF THE YOUNGEST INTERNS TO WORK THERE. . .IT
HAS NEVER BEEN EDLOIS' DREAM TO WORK FOR THE DP

Hi Sparring partner LOL Sorry it took a few day's to get back to you, this is the first chance I've had to get on line. I have deadlines I have to meet on photo's LOL

*SHE HAS CLASS AND DOESN'T RESORT TO "EXPOSING" HER BODY TO GET WHAT SHE WANTS. . .EXPOSED ANYONE?

ALL of these ILL traits listed above DESCRIBE CHLOE;) Now, I'm not going to turn this into a CHLOIS discussion, BUT CHLOE IS SV'S VERSION OF LOIS LANE:D This is why I LOVE CHLOE SO MUCH and WANT HER TO BE WITH CLARK!;)

Now I know that I got a little off of the subject, BUT I just want you to understand why so many of us CHLARKERS feel the way we do. It's NOT that we don't like LOIS LANE; It's just that SV'S version of Lois Lane (EDLOIS) pales in comparison to the ICONIC LOIS LANE, and the person who comes closet to that on SV IS CHLOE;) She is the one who deserves to write the BIG story about Superman, NOT EDLOIS! What's sad is the fact that Al/Miles have painted themselves into a corner:rolleyes: How are they going to EVER expect the audience to BELIEVE that EDLOIS will be the ONE to write Superman's story, when Chloe was the one who has been his #1 secret-keeper and has stuck beside him through EVERYTHING?!:confused:. . .Yeah, that's really going to be believeable. . .PLEASE:rolleyes:

Well, it was nice sparring with you, BUT I got to go to bed:lol: Oh, I liked your letter too:lol: I'll be waiting for your response tommorrow:)

Hi Again Sparring partner ! Sorry it took so long to get back to you, I have a deadline on the photo's I'm taking, so work comes first LOL I am happy to hear that you don't hate Lois, That would be a shame, her character is great, for the way they have her written right now. But so many of your fellow Chloe fan's !! And they know who they are !! Seem to think it's about body part's. Lois has bigger ( You know what's ) Lois has Longer leg's !!
But Chloe is the total package !! My question is what the heck does a chest size, and leg's have to do with anything ?? Why are most of the Chloe fan's so hung up on that point about Lois ???
Because it's mentioned often, and then they go on about how great Chloe is in other way's.
I Like all the characters on Smallville, even Lionel LOL Each one makes the show what it is. The Smallville writers will get away now and again from the true storyline of Clark, but they always bring it back on track. What Chloe fan's need to understand, is that the writers are, creating a build up for Lois and Clark, since the start of Season 4. And though Lois and Clark think they have no feelings for each other, they both have an electric attraction to each other. In Crusade, Lois get's to see Clark in the buff, and we can tell by her reaction, she liked what she saw, both in the cornfield and in the hospital. In Gone, Lois walks in on Clark while he is taking a shower, again in the buff LOL, and herself in nothing but one of Clarks shirts. In Devoted when Lois walks into the boy's gym room to get an interview with some of the football players, and Clark try's to stop her, she happily makes a comment about being happy Clark was checking her out. In Facade, both she and Clark show their Chemistry together when she dunks him in the pool, and then comes running over to him, and rub's his head, and is smiling, and Clark is smiling back at her and splashes water at her, and Chloe see's the attraction between the two of them, and get's all Depressed, the song playing was even perfect by Avril L. " So much for my Happy ending " The Chemistry between Lois and Clark is totally there.
What the writers are doing is, going the way of, giving them the chemistry, but making both of them try to deny they have it for each other, and at times, almost not being able to stand each other. And then Pow !! They bring it back and tease us again, and then pull away again LOL What they are doing is like in real life at times. We meet a person, and for one reason or another, think they are arrogant, ego maniac, know it all, and we can't stand them LOL They argue all the time, never see eye to eye, but then they connect, and like in real life, you fall in Love with the person so hard, you don't know how you could have ever lived without them. And that is what they are doing with Lois and Clark. Clark made it clear with Chloe in Devoted he didn't have the same feelings for her that she did for him. But as we all know Chloe has still obsessed on him, but tried to keep it secret.
The point I'm making is this, no matter how perfect a person might be in the eye's of others. Clark has seen what she has to offer, but he isn't attracted to her in that way, Chloe is missing that certain something, that makes a connection in that way with Clark. So it won't matter to him, how great she is or everything she can do. He doesn't feel for her the same way. He only feel's the bond of friendship for her, and he's made that point clear in many of the show's through out all the seasons, after the first Season, and in the first Season he was only settling for her, because he didn't think he would ever have Lana, because of Whitney. The big moment at the Prom, the almost kiss, then he finds out Lana is in trouble and quick as a flash, he's left Chloe in the dust, to race to Lana's side. Most of the Chloe fan's should really open their eye's, and not create illusions in what they wish for, and create things that aren't there, and misunderstand when Clark hug's her, or say's he cares about her. He cares as a real friend does. Not in a romantic sense. I laugh so hard when I read some of the Chloe fan's misunderstanding a scene, rather than seing reality, that Clark is just a caring friend.
And no Clark would never have revealed his secret to Chloe, had Alicia not revealed it for him, because he saw the damage it created for Pete Ross, and pulled back from telling Lana his secret, because he didn't want anymore of his friends to suffer because of him, and the burden of his secret. Watch Season 3, the 2nd to the last show, where Pete tell's him good bye and why, then you'll understand I'm right, about Clark not ever revealing his secret to Chloe, if Alicia had not revealed it first. Because he cares to much about Chloe as a friend, to have her suffer as Pete did, but since she found out, he has to make the most of it.
Now as for Chloe the secret keeper sticking beside him through everything. Ask yourself why that is, and be honest with yourself !
Because she is totally obsessed with Clark, and in Love with him.
In real life if a person did to us what Chloe has done, and behaved in the Jealous rages she has shown through the Seasons we would have run from them in reality. Obsessed people are unpredictable. And Chloe has proved that point many times.
As for Lois passing Chloe as a reporter, we all know from the 69 years of the Superman Saga, That Lois Lane is going to be the Best reporter at the Daily Planet. So honestly, who do you think will win in that area ?? A 69 year old established Character ? or a new 6 year character created only for the Smallville Series ?
And if you say it's the 6 year character, my next question would be how much money do you want to bet that I know you are wrong !! LOL
As great as Chloe is, and I too think she's a great character. Lois will surpass her in time. No matter how good we are, their's always someone better. A True fact in Life. And since Lois is a comicbook character, all real fan's know she will be the winner in the end, and they will make it believable as they always do in the world of Comicbook's made TV Series, staying true to the history they have created for their characters.
Again it was fun as usual, debating with you, Hopefully I opened your eye's to a few Truth's and real fact's in my points to you.

Originally posted by SteveS
Just watched a deleted scene from "Tomb" where as ClarkMan spirits Chloe out of the hospital, she says something like "You're my hero." Nope, she didn't say anything akin to 'your're like a big brother to me" nor did she call him 'Bubba.'

Their bond has appeared mostly platonic on the show, but their attraction has nothing to do with being 'sister and Best Friend.'

Chloe without a doubt has the attraction you speak of. But Clark does not, and that is shown over and over Season after Season.
Watch Season 3 episode "Devoted " Clark tell's her flat out he does not have the same feelings for her.
Chloe doesn't not view her and Clark as a brother and sister relationship. But with Clark, that's the feeling the writers give you,. Don't confuse friendship, feelings and caring for Love and attraction, merely because that's what you wish to see. It's not there. It's a one sided affair. And Chloe being obsessed with Clark, proves it over and over again. Their bond is totally platonic, because that's how Clark wants it to remain. Chloe on the other hand, that's a different story. LOL

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Well, to be honest, A LOT of fans believed that CHLARK would eventually happen sometime during the series, since their relationship was foreshadowed back in Season 2 - "Fever Letter" - "The Girl He'll Grow Into":) Don't get me wrong, I ALWAYS knew that eventually Clark Kent/Superman ends up with Lois Lane, BUT SV has dropped SO MANY hints to a CHLARK romance that it's kind of hard to ignore:)

On another note, I don't know if you are aware of this, but there were some last minute rewrites this season. After the events of "Crimson," Chloe was suppose to "re-evaluate her feelings for Clark," and Jimmy and Chloe were supposed to be broken up for good. This was actually an official CW description. HOWEVER, none of this happened. It was rumored that Chloe and Clark were supposed to get involved in a relationship, BUT when AL/MILES got a FIRM confirmation for Season 7 and possibly 8, they pulled the PLUG on CHLARK FOR NOW. ALSO, Steven Deknight, who is a SV writer, has his own Myspace Blog. A Chloe fan asked him why Clark's potential love interest (Chloe) that was foreshadowed back in season 2 has been quickly forgotten. His response was (this should make you smile): "Clark Kent will one day end up with Lois. We can't change that. But who knows what might happen between now and then?" Deknight was very vague, BUT he inspired a lot of HOPE for CHLARK ;) PLUS, Al/Miles said that they can't do a Lois and Clark romance due to DC Comics restrictions, but they can show hints of their future relationship;) My theory is that AL/MILES will eventually honor what they foreshadowed back in season 2, meaning having Chloe and Clark in a relationship, but they will also foreshadow the future love between Clark and Lois ;) Everybody wins;)

Oh and to answer your question about whether or not I like ClOIS, my answer is YES. Are you shocked?:lol: Like I stated before, I do not have a problem with CLOIS or Lois Lane for that matter. I just have a problem with SV's version of Lois lane = EDLois (Also, I don't have a problem with Erica Durance, just the character she portrays, which I know that she has no control over that:)). However, I've always felt that Lois Lane should have never been brought on SV, because it just always seemed too weird. BUT that's just my opinion:).

I hope that I have clarified where I stand on the CHLARK vs. CLOIS issues:) It was great chatting with you, and I hope to talk with you again soon;)

Hi Again LOL I had to get involved in this one LOL
Let's look at the fact's of the Chloe character shall we ?
For all Chloe's good charactristics, she has equally bad one's.
Obsession and almost Stalker like behavior with Clark. Jealousy to where she takes it out on Clark and Lana in Seasons 1 and 2.
Betrayal of Clark to Lionel when things didn't go her way with Clark. But because of her obsession with him, she always run's back to Clark for forgiveness, to get back in with him, and silently wait for another chance that won't ever come.
I checked out your info, about the writers going to put Chloe and Clark together, until they discovered they would be signed for 2 more Seasons. 8 Seasons is correct, but they were never ever going to bring Chloe and Clark together, you got some wishful false info from some other Chloe fan. Working for MTV has it's perks, I can check things out quick, and I know a ton of people in the Comicbook world, Movie world and Music Industry. You got false info. But I did learn that the writers had toyed with the idea, of doing a show based on Chloe dreaming her and Clark had gotten together, and waking to find it was all a dream and Clark was still uninterested in the real world of the show LOL Kind of like a LexMas LOL Who know's maybe that would have been enough for you die hard Chloe fan's LOL But they dropped the idea, so it won't ever be as well. But at least you know it was out on the drawing table for a while LOL
Season's 6 and 7 and 8 will focus more on developing Lois into what she is to become, and bring both her and Clark very close together. Jimmy and Chloe totally in Love ( Thank God ! ) And Clark finally realizing his destiny, and becoming the Hero he was born to be. And symbol of Goodness, and Honor, and Intrigity that we as True Superman fan's have grown up to love and admire about him.
So you see, Chloe is not the Girl he'll grow into, Lois Lane is. The one he can't stand right now, is the one who will capture his Heart, and Clark will capture her's. In Season 4 they give hint by Lois herself what type of man she is attracted to, a geek with Glasses anyday LOL Thus enters the Clark Kent we all know and Love.
Alas !! Al/Miles will not bring Chloe and Clark together as you hope from what you thought were hint's in Season 2. DC Comics also Restricted them, from bringing Chloe and Clark together as an item. And you are right about Lois and Clark not getting into a full blown relationship on Smallville, but they are bringing them in close, and they will have touchie feelings moments thurout the seasons to come, along with plenty of kissing, and then do their now famous pull them away again LOL But we True Superman fan's can live with that LOL

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
Mr. Lerone,
Why do you say I am determined not to see reality? I see nothing in your statement that points out in what manner I'm fantasizing. I do note however that you seem to have missed all of the differing avenues that TPTB have taking in regard to the original Superman story. There was no coupling with Lana in the biblical sense with Clark, nor was there a coupling between Lex and Lana, or any mention of a Chloe, Pete, a teenage Lois or pre. DP Perry White or Jimmy Olsen. Just a few strings TPTB have injected into SV to re-invent a hero for the 21st century. All bets are off as to what is inevitable and what is not! I personally hope that they somehow consolidate the story lines in order to return to the canon of D.C. lore. P.S. In case you hadn't noticed, SV has little to do with reality so lines may be a bit vague for an oldtimer like me!

Sorry about not gettting back to you sooner. I missed yours because of the L when it should have been an N LOL
To answer your responce, while the storyline has changed slightly from the True Superman/Clark Kent as a young man Saga. The one thing that hasn't changed is Clark Kent and what he stands for. About Values and Morals, Honor and Intrigity. True he was never with Lana Lang in the biblical sense in the comic's or movies, but he was in Smallville, but only with Lana. Clark has Moral's( rare in this day and age) , on Smallville, remaining True to how DC Comics created his character. To have him be with Chloe is where I meant you weren't seing Reality. They won't turn Clark into a sex straved Love machine just to make a few Chloe fan's happy. DC Comics and Time Warner, who holds the rights to the Superman Movie Francise. Won't allow the character Clark Kent to go that way, because it goes against the nature of who he is and will become ( Superman ) He's better than us mere moral's who wouldn't think twice about doing the wrong thing, and bedding Chloe just for the hell of it. That's what makes him a Superman and Superguy !! So even though they have played with different storylines, Clark/Lana Lex/Lana And even the friendship between Lex and Clark for quite a few seasons, which I really liked and was sad to see them finally become the enemies I knew they were going to be. They still have to follow the storyline, which they are for the most part. Clark and Chloe won't happen, it would cheapen the Clark Kent Character, who is a role model to the smaller fan's who watch Smallville right along side us every thursday. If they were going to do that, they would take away all that Superman stands for, and he'd be no better than us common men, who would go for it in a heartbeat just for fun.
Clark has had many encounters with beautiful women on the show, that he did really care about and was attracted too, like Alicia, and forgive me I am to lazy to look up the name, ( The Indian Girl from the Caves ) He had more of an attraction to those two in the short few times Alicia was on the show and theone show the indian girl was on, than all Six seasons with Chloe.
And yet he did nothing but kiss. Even under Red K and mind control, he never went beyond just kissing. Let's face fact's ! That's what makes him Superman. He stronger than us in many other way's than just super strength LOL
You say your an old timer !! How old if I may ask ?? I'm 46 but look about 36, thanks to my job, keeping me young ! You don't sound older than me. Are you ? Just curious ! Nice talking with you and clearing the matter up.

Originally posted by greysfan511
Finally someone who had enough inteligence to see the true story of Superman, not just Smallville. I've been telling all these Chloe fanatics on here, to read or watch the Superman mythology to get the real facts. I have had people that have told me I'm wrong that Lois and Clark are the ultimate outcome, and that Chloe and Clark are the ultimate couple. These people need to think before they speak, and get the facts. I can'y believe Khyla thinks she knows everything about Superman when she even said she has never even read or watch anything Superman just Smallville. What she doesnt seem to get is that Smallville isn't made up its based off of 69 years of history!! The writers are not gonna change history for a few Chloe obsessive people. You are compleatly right about how Khyla must see herself as Chloe like, cause she doesnt want to see the real story, she only belives what she want to belive. I'm glad that someone out there knows how the story goes and can say the truth confidently, because it's the truth. Well said!! Well said!! I was cheering when I read your post!!

LOL Thank you for all the nice things you said. I am Honored !
I am on a Photoassignment right now, so it's hard to write back fast when I am away from home. I'll be bouncing around from LA to New York for the next couple of weeks so my responces will be late LOL Worst part I will be on the road March 15th when Promise air's. Come hell or high water I'll be in my Hotel Room by 8:00pm to watch Smallville !! LOL But don't worry greysfan511 I will get on the laptop, when I can, to come in and defend you, if the Chloe Fanatics attack you LOL Because I love a good battle LOL It's the Irish in me, or maybe the Scot LOL
Read my other posts, I learned a few good things, the Chloe Fanatics weren't aware of that will kill their dreams of a Clark/Chloe hook up. Time Warner Forbid it, so it doesn't conflict With the Superman Movies storylines. I can understand that since they are suppose to do another two Superman movies.
And Time Warner has alot of Juice and power behind them.
Keep the faith and stay True to The real Superman Saga.

Originally posted by greysfan511
You are twisting my words around. But other than that, do you really think that we have to nasty. Yes I was annoyed, but I have my own opinions as do you and other people on this site. I was just stating what I know about the Superman mythology, I know what's going on in Smallville. I did survive the Clana years because I liked there relashinship for some time. It's just over these past two years were they have been uncomfortable with each other. I haven't like the Lexana relashinship one bit, and I'd rather have Clana any day over that. The point I was trying to get across about Clois, is that I know that they show very little intrest in each other romantically. I get what your saying about the whole Chlark getting clser through the years, they would as the mature. I've never been a big fan of Chlark so I just can't see them get together. I hope they dont, and they just stay friends cause I like that dynamic, but if it happends it happens. When I said that Clois is the future, I didn't mean they have to start now. But it will happen, maybe not on Smallville. But I do believe that as Smallville nears its end, Al/Miles will move closer to hinting at their relashinshp more. They've already done it this season, maybe not loads, but they've done it slightly. Another reason I don't want Chlark is because of Jimmy. I love that character and I love seeing him and Chloe. I know Smallville doensn't have to stick to Superman exactly, but they can't stray to far from the original story. I'm sorry that this has gotten out of hand, after all this is just a TV show. I do tend to get VERY defensive about my opinions and if I ofended you, I'm sorry. I really enjoy these arguments, even if they do get a little nasty. I understand that your are Chlark fan, just as I a Clois fan. I even know some people who are Lex/Chloe fans!! I appreciate your words, they have made me think on what I wanted to reply back. Obviously we have different opinons, and I would like to have less of a nasty converstion, more of a calmer one. Yes I admit it, you did hit a nerve, but when has that not happened to any of us??!! LOL. I guess I was a little harsh with my replys to you, but agian as you said " I must had hit a nerve." You did. But thats okay. That makes for good discussion right??? I'm eager for your reply!!

In Reply to this Question of Chlark=destiny

How do you know if Clark does not love Chloe, or that he'll never love her?! Have you personally asked him?

Answer "

The question is Have you ??? LOL You seem so sure with all your made up illusions of what you think Clark and Chloe have, you failed to really watch these show's closely.
If you really watch, you'll see that Clark doesn't Love Chloe, but he does deeply care about her as a Dear Friend and Trusted Ally.
I see so many Chloe fan's mistaking hug's and compassion, and deep feelings of friendship by Clark for Chloe as signs of Love.
Come into the real world !! People do the same thing they are in the TV show, in reality, all the time. That's what friendship is all about. Don't confuse it for Love. Even a blind person can see it's one sided. But God Forbid !! With a Chloe a fan, if Clark hug's her or touches her hand in support of her. Oh !! It's Love, they are going to get together !! They are made for each other !! LOL LOL
Do a reality check Please !! Don't create what isn't there. Just because you want it to be, doesn't mean it's really there. Watch the facial reactions, listen to the words !! Have you ever seen Clark Kiss Chloe on the lip's acting on any feelings other than Red K ?? No !! It's not there for him. Go back to Season four, and get a refresher coarse in "Devoted "at the end, when Clark tell's Chloe flat out, he didn't have the type of feeling's for her that she has for him. Stop the self created fantasies and just enjoy Smallville LOL Lois Lane is the future, even if all Chloe Fan's don't like it. Guess What ?? It's still going to happen LOL
As a Photographer I read people's facial expressions well, to take Great photo's of what I am looking for. The Actors in Smallville use those facial expressions the same way to tell the story. And Tom Welling's face say's it all. Friendship only with Chloe.
Watch the Seasons back to back in your spare time, then you'll finally see it. It's there if you only look. I kept an open mind, and watching all five seasons back to back, and then all of season 6 on tape. My 3 day's Smallville marathon LOL And the only time, there was any hint of it, was in Season one. By Season 4 Clark crushed Chloe's hopes. The rest is all about Clark caring for her as a friend and human being. Watch them all on a 4 day week end. It's an eye opener.

Originally posted by Khyla
i'm sorry, but u must have me mixed up with another poster. I HAVE NEVER BASHED THE LOIS CHARACTER! as a matter of fact i've said i liked her character very much, just not as the ILL, but as an additional fun and dynamic character to the show (IMO Chloe is and always has been Iconic LL, so ED's additon was a surprise but i enjoy her very much).

please point out to me any post where i have bashed either Erica Durance or her character! If you can find one, someone was impersonating me!

I will admit to letting people know how sick to my stomach i find the constant regurgitation of the Clana relationship and subsequent stagnation of Clark's character, and the wishy-washiness of the Lana character. And it is a fact that i get physically sickened by it now to the point that I decided if they were to continue with it, i wouldn't put myself thru the torture of watching it anymore.

Hi I am glad we both agree on the Lana thing !! To keep bringing her back is like beating a dead horse. I adored Lana in the first few Seasons, But God that girl sure hooked up with men to fast for me LOL It seemed for a while like every other episode, Lana was almost in Love with some other guy LOL
There finally comes a point you get just a little tired of it, and realize Clark is too good for her LOL
Forgive me for the Lois Bashing thing. I scan through things quickly, and your name appears in alot of Lois bashing posts, but it would seem it isn't you, that's doing them, from a closer review.
But I still believe you take the Chloe thing a little to serious and personal. based on your comments, from your own personal relationship with your husband. Point in fact. Chloe is like you, you are like her. Chloe and Clark started out like you and your husband. You two got together under those conditions, so you feel Chloe and Clark should as well. In a sense you view yourself as the Chloe character, because you so closely relate to her character. Differance though. You and your husband are real Life. These are comicbook characters, with their future storylines already laid out for them. So it won't matter how much you think the Chloe character should be with Clark, for whatever reasons.
It's just not there. But they do have a great friendship. Knowing this, and knowing the Chloe character, and her problems with obsessing over Clark, and fit's of Jealous Rage, and the mental illness that run's in her family, can you honestly say, that she and Clark should still have a meanless hook up, that lead's to no where, knowing full well, that the Chloe character will never end up with Clark in the long run ?? Not to forget to mention, if they had let such a meanless union happen. Chloe would go off the deep end when Clark finally left her, and her obsession and Jealousy would take over, and that could be the trigger to a mental break down like her mother. I say leave it alone !! It would damage the great Character Chloe is, make Clark look cheap, and he is suppose to be above what earth guy's would do.
Because he is a symbol, even now on Smallville of Honor, Values and Morality. Food for thought.

clois_lover10

03-05-2007, 04:43 AM

Wow this thread has basically turned into the Chlois Debate Thread. :lol: I personally think that the Chlois theory is an interesting idea, but not one that would ever happen on Smallville- I don't think Chloe's personality matches up with the Iconic Lois Lane's- I can never imagine Chloe becoming known as Mad Dog (she's too nice) and I can't see how the Iconic Lois Lane would ever want to be with Clark when he did not want to be with her. Many people feel very strongly about this debate, but without ever looking at the debate thread on Kryptonsite, I never thought Chlois to be a possibility based on my viewing of the show. I think that sometimes people on both sides of the debate feel compelled to make all Smallville canon supportive of their side of the argument, even if it's clearly evidence for the other side- anyway, those are my opinions on the Chlois theory and debate. :)

PhotoStarz

03-05-2007, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by clois_lover10
Wow this thread has basically turned into the Chlois Debate Thread. :lol: I personally think that the Chlois theory is an interesting idea, but not one that would ever happen on Smallville- I don't think Chloe's personality matches up with the Iconic Lois Lane's- I can never imagine Chloe becoming known as Mad Dog (she's too nice) and I can't see how the Iconic Lois Lane would ever want to be with Clark when he did not want to be with her. Many people feel very strongly about this debate, but without ever looking at the debate thread on Kryptonsite, I never thought Chlois to be a possibility based on my viewing of the show. I think that sometimes people on both sides of the debate feel compelled to make all Smallville canon supportive of their side of the argument, even if it's clearly evidence for the other side- anyway, those are my opinions on the Chlois theory and debate. :)

LoL The interesting Idea you speak of with Lois and Clark, will become a reality by the close of Season 8. The writers have to make it look that way for now. Putting them close, then pulling away. Because all Fan's of Superman and Smallville realize, that Lois and Clark will be together in time. I don't believe Lois and Clark will be a full blown item though in Smallville, unless the Storyline finally moves them both to become repeorters in the Daily Planet. But then they would really get away from the true storyline, where Clark finally goes off to get his training from Jor El.
They will just continue to tease us with the Relationship through the remaining Seasons. Now come on about the line you wrote.

(I never thought Chlois to be a possibility based on my viewing of the show. )

You've seen the Superman movies haven't you ? Read the comic's ? For 69 years the whole world has known it's Clark and Lois LOL But I am surprised by a few who never knew the History of the Saga of Clark Kent and Superman, and only know what they have seen on Smallville. Nice to have new fan's join in.
I hope that you go beyond Smallville, and go deeper into the Wonderful world of Superman and Clark Kent, it's a fun ride ! LOL
As for me, I don't support one side or the other, I support remaining True to the storylines that really are Clark Kent and Superman, Something that if you know the entire 69 year History of Dc Comics Universe with Superman, you would understand my point as well as others do. We didn't write the History, and bring Lois and Clark together. DC Comics did 69 years ago. We as Fan's just want that History followed, because we grew up with those characters, and loved the story. And I have followed Superman since I first discovered he existed and would race down to the local comicbook shop every week to get the new issues of his adventures, and back issues to get even more back round on my childhood Hero. I even own a very poor copy of Action Comics Number 1, the first appearance of Superman from 1938, which if it were in better condition would be worth a fortune, but I could still sell for alot due to the fact World War II paper drives in the 1940's caused the loss of 80 percent of those titles, making under 300 known copies in the world today, and I own one of them. My daughters argue over who get's it when I'm gone all the time LOL Because they know I'll never sell it, because I'm a fan LOL
Now as for your Chloe statement. I agree with you, Chloe is a Great Character and can be very nice, but if you watch all the Seasons of Smallville closely, you can see her dark side, when things didn't go her way with Clark. And Smallville has estabished that mental illness run's in CHloe's family from her Mothers side, which would explain her obsessive behavior with Clark, and fit's of jealous Rage, and phases of depression from time to time, that she goes through when things don't go the way she planned with Clark. It's all there in plain sight, if you really watch. I didn't put it there ! LOL The writers Al/Miles did LOL I just watch the show without any blinders on to any character.
As for debating, what's to debate ? When you already know how the story will end after 69 years worth of Clark Kent and Superman in the world. I'm stating facts. And the writers have to remain true to that storyline of Clark and Lois, because DC Comics and Time Warner demanded it, to continue to the same storyline that the movies are going. And though Smallville has fun changing some of the true storyline over all the seasons. They never changed who Clark Kent is, and what he stands for.
I'm stating facts, the other's debate over the love life of the Chloe character. If Chloe had existed for 69 years and been Clarks love interest for all that time , like Lois has been, then I'd be right there with them defending the true storyline for Chloe. But she is a new Character invented solely for Smallville. Thus they have alot more freedom with her character, and can make her anyway they want and write her anyway they want. But they can't bring her together with Clark in a Romantic way. DC COMICS and Time Warner Nixed that idea, thus ending a dream storyline, they thought of doing for Chloe fan's. If you are New to the Superman Saga, and know only what you know from Smallville, Welcome to the wonderful World of Superman. Go rent some of the movies, and hit your Local comicbook shop and pick up a few copies of Superman from the 60's if you can afford them, and a few copies of the Title " Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane, then you'll finally understand what all True Clark Kent/Superman Fan's already know about who Clark ends up with. Nice talking with you. I liked your photo of Clark in the Superman suit.

Mr. Wrong

03-05-2007, 01:43 PM

Nobody can say that you Chlarkers aren't commited, that's for sure. I do see your point about Chloe's resemblance to the true Lois Lane but TPTB brought Lois into the picture because they recognized that the popularity of Chloe demanded that they find a way to maintain the character. The early introduction of Lois allowed them to expand the SV canon without totally shredding the Superman canon. The Chlark relationship is far to important to the SV canon to risk it with a romantic coupling. Yes, they do make a great pair and do have chemistry but the fact of the matter is that CK can no longer have intimate relations as the human factor in him is dead now, remember? He was Johnie on the spot to make hay with Lana when he had the chance but that's all folks. Arguing who ends up with him is kind of pointless because even in the comics Lois gives up on him in the end. CK will have to be happy with being married to the world from now on. Chloe is a great gal and deserves someone like Jimmy who can give her all of his love and commitment. Not a larger than life superhero who would in all likelihood kill her accidently if they became lovers. However, there is nothing wrong with fantasizing.
Hope and possibilities are what the Superman saga is all about.

PhotoStarz

03-05-2007, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by D.M.A.
I agree,I think it was obvious they were buildin chlark up all thru s5 which lead to the vessel kiss.And it fit the moment,the timin was jus right...In Zod,clark cameback from the PZ/fightin Zod yet wanted to work things out wit chloe.Chloe bein the voice of reason brushed it off not knowin that clark truly wanted more.The Timin was off,cause clark was reboundin from lana(Who he jus found out 2 epi's before was datin lex)and jus went thru hell wit Zod.Plus she's never known clark to look at her that way so she played it safe and went wit the safe choice jimmy.I agree clark has wanted more from chloe since the premiere...Zod/Sneeze/Wither show this imo,but as u stated its only when clark starts to accept that she's datin jimmy when he starts wantin to pursue lana again sadly :mad: .Its also why I feel like he has to move on from lana,cause he cant use her as an escape from other things.Instead of processin his feelings for chloe he decides its better to chase lana,that has to stop soon.Plus both clark/chloe need to resolve their tension from vessel/zod cause its there in all of their scenes...They both want sumthin more but think the other isn't interested

I missed this post. I agree on the moving away from Lana. But as for the rest. Wishful thinking on your part, and seing what isn't really there, with Clark and Chloe.
You stated, ( you think it was obvious they were buildin chlark ) how wrong you are ! It was nothing of the kind. They were building a stronger friendship is all. Don't confuse Friendship with Love or lust. Clark has no tension as you put it with Chloe, but Chloe sure has it with Clark. Since the beginning of Smallville, it has always been Chloe pursuing Clark. Clark ruled it out for her in Devoted. And yet if Clark shows he is a friend and shows he cares about her as a friend, so many misunderstand, and instantly think, it's all about Sex and lust, and tention !!! LOL
You guy's need to stop thinking with your lower brains, and really watch the shows more closely, and forget all this stuff about tention and attraction, and realize Clark is a Noble man, with Honorable intentions, and values Chloe as his True friend, and he is very protective of her. That's why he was concerned when Jimmy came into the picture. But that's what friends do in real life as well. Look out for their friends. How many good friendships in life have been ruined, by people like yourselves who read into something wrong like you are with Clark and Chloe, and the friendship was Lost. Superman/Clark Kent Fan's have an edge, we all know how the story ends. 69 years worth of storyline to prove it. Get back to reality, and enjoy the show. It's a great one. Let the History and storyline of Clark Kent and Superman be your guide. And enjoy the fact that Clark has another new friend ( Chloe ) to help aid him in the great cause he is about to under take when he becomes Superman in a few years.

Originally posted by Crispin Glover
I kept waiting for Clark to tell Chloe he loves her.

AWESOME

LOL I hope you like to wait !! You sure are going to be waiting a long time LOL

greysfan511

03-05-2007, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Sorry I couldn't get on line sooner, Such is the life of a MTV photographer . I have been very busy the last couple of day's, getting photo's just right. I see the Chloe fan's are still fighting LOL Why I have no idea ! I guess the truth hurt's about their favorite. Knowing the History as we do, they seem to not want to see the real reality of where the DC Comic's Universe is Headed, with Clark and Lois. It's even spelled out for them by Al/Miles in the Smallville Magazine, yet still they argue LOL
That's where the proof lie's in my point about, some of these people thinking in some strange way, that they are Chloe, because they either look like her in reality or think she is like them, and if Chloe get's Clark, then they will in a way too ! LOL
I am Amazed by this. But that is the real reason they fight so hard, for a meanless, shallow hook up to happen between the two characters. Rather than follow the 69 year old history of Clark Kent who becomes Superman.
As for this Superman Cannon, forgive me, I haven't heard of this, so I can't make an honest statement without more info.
Maybe you know, and can fill me in on this. It sounds interesting.
Because I far as I know from my Friends in DC Comics, the Chloe character will not be, after Smallville's run is over. But once I know the source, I can check in New York, and know if it's true or not in a heartbeat. Sorry I let you fight alone for a while. My career put's alot of demands on me. LOL Keep up the good fight greysfan11

It's ok. I've stood my ground! Jobs can do that to you. Me being a Journalist, I know how much time you need to give up. I couldn't agree with you more about everything. No, I haven't heard anything about the Superman cannon, but I'll keep my eyes open. I can't believe what all the Chlark fans think in here, it's almost funny!! I'm glad your back, and were talking, it was kinda lonely being in the fight all alone...LOL. I got through it though. LOL Well, I'll be looking forward to your reply!

PhotoStarz

03-05-2007, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
It's ok. I've stood my ground! Jobs can do that to you. Me being a Journalist, I know how much time you need to give up. I couldn't agree with you more about everything. No, I haven't heard anything about the Superman cannon, but I'll keep my eyes open. I can't believe what all the Chlark fans think in here, it's almost funny!! I'm glad your back, and were talking, it was kinda lonely being in the fight all alone...LOL. I got through it though. LOL Well, I'll be looking forward to your reply!

Hi my friend !!
It looks to me like you not only helt your own, but you kicked butt as well LOL Great job, of clearly getting all your points across.
As for this Superman Cannon, I've seen it mentioned a few times, and have no clue as to what they are talking about, but I am honest enough to admit things I don't know LOL
As for all the Chloe/ Clark fan's, I am amused by how hard they focus on not looking at reality, and instead creating some Hot hidden Love affair with each other. My wife even understands, the point we are trying to make, and she is from Russia, and not familiar with the whole Superman Clark Kent story LOL Clark is only being a true friend to Chloe, the way friends are suppose to act. But anytime Clark should touch Chloe's hand or look into her eye's or hug her. Then you see all these post's about, how they have the secret hidden feeling for each other !! Or Oh !! the attraction to do the wild thing LOL God in Heaven !! I love their fantasies they create within their own minds. It very amusing to me, but it isn't reality of where the show is headed as you and I both know. But you've got to love them all, for those vivid imaginations LOL It makes for fun debates listening to their every excuse to defend their Chloe !! LOL I Love it !!!!
Your almost in the same field as I am, so you would understand LOL The pressures of my line of work. Moody RockStars, shooting roll after roll of film to get what you need. It's mentally stressful !!
But god it sure pay's well. Smallville is my release from reality lol
I won't be able to get back on line for a few day's after today, too big a work load right now. But after seing how well you handled yourself, you'll be ok, till I get back on Line. Keep on Defending the True Storyline and History of Clark/Lois My friend and Ally LOL You have been doing Fantastic so far !!

greysfan511

03-05-2007, 05:46 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Hi my friend !!
It looks to me like you not only helt your own, but you kicked butt as well LOL Great job, of clearly getting all your points across.
As for this Superman Cannon, I've seen it mentioned a few times, and have no clue as to what they are talking about, but I am honest enough to admit things I don't know LOL
As for all the Chloe/ Clark fan's, I am amused by how hard they focus on not looking at reality, and instead creating some Hot hidden Love affair with each other. My wife even understands, the point we are trying to make, and she is from Russia, and not familiar with the whole Superman Clark Kent story LOL Clark is only being a true friend to Chloe, the way friends are suppose to act. But anytime Clark should touch Chloe's hand or look into her eye's or hug her. Then you see all these post's about, how they have the secret hidden feeling for each other !! Or Oh !! the attraction to do the wild thing LOL God in Heaven !! I love their fantasies they create within their own minds. It very amusing to me, but it isn't reality of where the show is headed as you and I both know. But you've got to love them all, for those vivid imaginations LOL It makes for fun debates listening to their every excuse to defend their Chloe !! LOL I Love it !!!!
Your almost in the same field as I am, so you would understand LOL The pressures of my line of work. Moody RockStars, shooting roll after roll of film to get what you need. It's mentally stressful !!
But god it sure pay's well. Smallville is my release from reality lol
I won't be able to get back on line for a few day's after today, too big a work load right now. But after seing how well you handled yourself, you'll be ok, till I get back on Line. Keep on Defending the True Storyline and History of Clark/Lois My friend and Ally LOL You have been doing Fantastic so far !! [/QUOTP

Perfectly said my friend. Smallville is my way of release also. I compleatly understand how the job cracks down on you. The deadlines for me are killer. LOL. I'm sure I'll be fine holding my ground. Nobody'c changing my mind about this one!! People like us understand the true story and don't really create little fantasies about Smallville. I love how the Chlark fans think were wrong and they are right. I just laugh, cause I know I'm right. My husband also watches Smallville, and gets what we are saying although, he think I'm nuts for being this involved with it. I just tell him It's fun, and the Chlark people amuse me a great deal. Hope work doesn't get to stressful for you, and I will for sure stand my ground. I find it very amusing to me when Chlark fans like to pick apart little scenes from past episodes and create a fanasty for a line Clark said to Chloe and define it as love, or a uncontrollable feeling Clark has for Chloe. I love it!! They are so unwilling to see reality! I will be eager for your reply, whenever you can. It's been great talking to you agian!! Talk to you later, my friend!

PhotoStarz

03-05-2007, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Hi my friend !!
It looks to me like you not only helt your own, but you kicked butt as well LOL Great job, of clearly getting all your points across.
As for this Superman Cannon, I've seen it mentioned a few times, and have no clue as to what they are talking about, but I am honest enough to admit things I don't know LOL
As for all the Chloe/ Clark fan's, I am amused by how hard they focus on not looking at reality, and instead creating some Hot hidden Love affair with each other. My wife even understands, the point we are trying to make, and she is from Russia, and not familiar with the whole Superman Clark Kent story LOL Clark is only being a true friend to Chloe, the way friends are suppose to act. But anytime Clark should touch Chloe's hand or look into her eye's or hug her. Then you see all these post's about, how they have the secret hidden feeling for each other !! Or Oh !! the attraction to do the wild thing LOL God in Heaven !! I love their fantasies they create within their own minds. It very amusing to me, but it isn't reality of where the show is headed as you and I both know. But you've got to love them all, for those vivid imaginations LOL It makes for fun debates listening to their every excuse to defend their Chloe !! LOL I Love it !!!!
Your almost in the same field as I am, so you would understand LOL The pressures of my line of work. Moody RockStars, shooting roll after roll of film to get what you need. It's mentally stressful !!
But god it sure pay's well. Smallville is my release from reality lol
I won't be able to get back on line for a few day's after today, too big a work load right now. But after seing how well you handled yourself, you'll be ok, till I get back on Line. Keep on Defending the True Storyline and History of Clark/Lois My friend and Ally LOL You have been doing Fantastic so far !! [/QUOTP

Perfectly said my friend. Smallville is my way of release also. I compleatly understand how the job cracks down on you. The deadlines for me are killer. LOL. I'm sure I'll be fine holding my ground. Nobody'c changing my mind about this one!! People like us understand the true story and don't really create little fantasies about Smallville. I love how the Chlark fans think were wrong and they are right. I just laugh, cause I know I'm right. My husband also watches Smallville, and gets what we are saying although, he think I'm nuts for being this involved with it. I just tell him It's fun, and the Chlark people amuse me a great deal. Hope work doesn't get to stressful for you, and I will for sure stand my ground. I find it very amusing to me when Chlark fans like to pick apart little scenes from past episodes and create a fanasty for a line Clark said to Chloe and define it as love, or a uncontrollable feeling Clark has for Chloe. I love it!! They are so unwilling to see reality! I will be eager for your reply, whenever you can. It's been great talking to you agian!! Talk to you later, my friend!

LOL My wife is like your husband, and laughs at how involved I can get on this site. I was just speaking with her by phone, and telling her everything that was going on, on the site , and she started laughing, teasing me, saying it's my 2nd job, setting things right on Smallville LOL
You know it is fun to see the Chlark fan's create things, from certain scenes in past show's. But when you go back and watch it yourself, you don't see anything but Clark being a great friend, and showing Chloe compassion, and letting her know he really cares as a friend. I even read about someone raving about a scene they cut, about Chloe calling Clark her Hero. Boy !!! Where has that person been ? Chloe has been doing that all along LOL
She's in Love with him, and trying to hide it LOL Of coarse he will always be her Hero. But they all, really avoid, the scene where Jimmy and Chloe come together again, and Jimmy say's Clarks alright and Chloe responds by saying ' Yes, but he's no Jimmy Olsen !! And then they kiss passionately smiling from ear to ear.
Chlark fans all seem to avoid commenting on that scene, and jump straight to Freak, saying " Well she didn't show those feelings to Jimmy when Clark took the bug out of her !! Good God !! She just got mind wiped after being kidnaped !! They should give Chloe a break LOL And see the reality of the reason she was like that !!
But they always tend to avoid seing what's right in front of them don't they LOL So we have to act, as the keepers of the True Story and Real Reality of what is really going on in the show LOL
But it is fun !
I will be off and on for a while tonight on the site. It's fun talking with you again. Let's wait and see what new fantasy they come up with. I can hardly wait LOL

bumblebee

03-05-2007, 06:22 PM

YAY, Chimmy Forever! :D

PhotoStarz

03-05-2007, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by bumblebee
YAY, Chimmy Forever! :D

Hi nice to meet you !! Nice to see another Jimmy and Chloe fan ! I think the two of them look great together, and make a perfect couple !! Chloe needed a guy that would put her first in his Life.
And Jimmy's that guy ! Thanks for the post !!

chlark=destiny

03-05-2007, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
Thanks for all that info. I knew hardly any of it. I compleatly get what your saying about the whole Chlark foreshawdowing thing. It makes sense. I also agree that SV can't really put Clark and Lois together. I mean really it wouldn't make sense due to the fact that in the latest Superman movie Clark and Lois aren't REALLY officially together yet. I can understand though SV playing around with Clois a little bit, hinting at it, like you said. I was intrested to hear what you stated about the changing of the story lines. That never crossed my mind! Thats very intresting.
I'm curious as to what will happen in these coming episodes. Alot of things will come out and the story will change ALOT I think. I haven't heard anything yet about a Chlark relashinship, but I am pretty sure that Aaron Ashmore is done on Smallville. He was only signed on for a number of episodes, and I think he's done. So I'm curious to see how that will influence everything. If you haven't heard or read, In the episode "Progeny", a major spoiler is revealed! If you havent heard, this is what i basically read: Lana gets knocked around a bit by a man hired by Lex and mind controlled by Chloe's mom, to kill Lex. He runs in Lana and knocks her around, Clark interviens (as usual) and is worried about Lana's baby, and Clark wants to take her to the hospital. Lana then tells Clark that she has already lost the baby (wonder when that happens?), Clark takes her to the hospital anyway. Lana gets a test done to find out why she miscarried and the tests tell her that she was never preganant, and that she was injected with a hormonal replicate that replicates symptoms of pregnany. I thought that was very intresting, and I'm curious as to what kind of story that will add. Just thought that was a piece of info that was intresting. Kinda off the topic of Chlark, but it intrested me, so I thought I'd let you know! I look forward to your reply!

Thanks for all of the information; I already knew about it, but it was nice of you to share;) I'm glad that I was able to shed some light on my CHLARK theory, and I am glad that we can now discuss our ships in a civilized manner:)

Lostfan588

03-05-2007, 09:22 PM

Hey. what can I say? CHLARK AND CHLOIS ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

greysfan511

03-05-2007, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
LOL My wife is like your husband, and laughs at how involved I can get on this site. I was just speaking with her by phone, and telling her everything that was going on, on the site , and she started laughing, teasing me, saying it's my 2nd job, setting things right on Smallville LOL
You know it is fun to see the Chlark fan's create things, from certain scenes in past show's. But when you go back and watch it yourself, you don't see anything but Clark being a great friend, and showing Chloe compassion, and letting her know he really cares as a friend. I even read about someone raving about a scene they cut, about Chloe calling Clark her Hero. Boy !!! Where has that person been ? Chloe has been doing that all along LOL
She's in Love with him, and trying to hide it LOL Of coarse he will always be her Hero. But they all, really avoid, the scene where Jimmy and Chloe come together again, and Jimmy say's Clarks alright and Chloe responds by saying ' Yes, but he's no Jimmy Olsen !! And then they kiss passionately smiling from ear to ear.
Chlark fans all seem to avoid commenting on that scene, and jump straight to Freak, saying " Well she didn't show those feelings to Jimmy when Clark took the bug out of her !! Good God !! She just got mind wiped after being kidnaped !! They should give Chloe a break LOL And see the reality of the reason she was like that !!
But they always tend to avoid seing what's right in front of them don't they LOL So we have to act, as the keepers of the True Story and Real Reality of what is really going on in the show LOL
But it is fun !
I will be off and on for a while tonight on the site. It's fun talking with you again. Let's wait and see what new fantasy they come up with. I can hardly wait LOL

I can see were you are coming from!! Im excited also to see what new fanasties they will create!!! I heard about that scene between Chloe and Clark were she tells him he's her hero. NEWSFLASH!!! When has she not told him that???!! Seriously. LOL. They need to get a life. I'm a Clois fan, but I don't go around and look for scenes to pick apart for little clues that aren't there. Well why would I need too, I know how the story turns out?! My husband was just talking to me about how intresting all these people are on this site. He barely knows anything about Superman and he can tell you how it all plays out. That's pretty sad compared to people that have been watching SV for years and still don't know the real outcome!! I love it !!!LOL!! I'm thinking on going back and watching some of these scenes Chlark fans have told me to watch for "proof" that there is a Chlark, just so I can prove them worng. Boy, am I gonna have some issues to talk about. This shall be fun! I really would like to see where these ideas are coming from! LOL. Not that they come from SV, but just what lines have these people infer stuff. Well I have an early morning tomorrow so I better go!! It was great talking to you agian! Talk to you later my friend! LOL

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Thanks for all of the information; I already knew about it, but it was nice of you to share;) I'm glad that I was able to shed some light on my CHLARK theory, and I am glad that we can now discuss our ships in a civilized manner:)

I'm glad too! It was great talking to you agian!

chlark=destiny

03-05-2007, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by Lostfan588
Hey. what can I say? CHLARK AND CHLOIS ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Thank God for you Lostfan588. . .I was starting to feel outnumbered:lol:

CHLARK ALL THE WAY!!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Hi Again Sparring partner ! Sorry it took so long to get back to you, I have a deadline on the photo's I'm taking, so work comes first LOL I am happy to hear that you don't hate Lois, That would be a shame, her character is great, for the way they have her written right now. But so many of your fellow Chloe fan's !! And they know who they are !! Seem to think it's about body part's. Lois has bigger ( You know what's ) Lois has Longer leg's !!
But Chloe is the total package !! My question is what the heck does a chest size, and leg's have to do with anything ?? Why are most of the Chloe fan's so hung up on that point about Lois ???
Because it's mentioned often, and then they go on about how great Chloe is in other way's.
I Like all the characters on Smallville, even Lionel LOL Each one makes the show what it is. The Smallville writers will get away now and again from the true storyline of Clark, but they always bring it back on track. What Chloe fan's need to understand, is that the writers are, creating a build up for Lois and Clark, since the start of Season 4. And though Lois and Clark think they have no feelings for each other, they both have an electric attraction to each other. In Crusade, Lois get's to see Clark in the buff, and we can tell by her reaction, she liked what she saw, both in the cornfield and in the hospital. In Gone, Lois walks in on Clark while he is taking a shower, again in the buff LOL, and herself in nothing but one of Clarks shirts. In Devoted when Lois walks into the boy's gym room to get an interview with some of the football players, and Clark try's to stop her, she happily makes a comment about being happy Clark was checking her out. In Facade, both she and Clark show their Chemistry together when she dunks him in the pool, and then comes running over to him, and rub's his head, and is smiling, and Clark is smiling back at her and splashes water at her, and Chloe see's the attraction between the two of them, and get's all Depressed, the song playing was even perfect by Avril L. " So much for my Happy ending " The Chemistry between Lois and Clark is totally there.
What the writers are doing is, going the way of, giving them the chemistry, but making both of them try to deny they have it for each other, and at times, almost not being able to stand each other. And then Pow !! They bring it back and tease us again, and then pull away again LOL What they are doing is like in real life at times. We meet a person, and for one reason or another, think they are arrogant, ego maniac, know it all, and we can't stand them LOL They argue all the time, never see eye to eye, but then they connect, and like in real life, you fall in Love with the person so hard, you don't know how you could have ever lived without them. And that is what they are doing with Lois and Clark. Clark made it clear with Chloe in Devoted he didn't have the same feelings for her that she did for him. But as we all know Chloe has still obsessed on him, but tried to keep it secret.
The point I'm making is this, no matter how perfect a person might be in the eye's of others. Clark has seen what she has to offer, but he isn't attracted to her in that way, Chloe is missing that certain something, that makes a connection in that way with Clark. So it won't matter to him, how great she is or everything she can do. He doesn't feel for her the same way. He only feel's the bond of friendship for her, and he's made that point clear in many of the show's through out all the seasons, after the first Season, and in the first Season he was only settling for her, because he didn't think he would ever have Lana, because of Whitney. The big moment at the Prom, the almost kiss, then he finds out Lana is in trouble and quick as a flash, he's left Chloe in the dust, to race to Lana's side. Most of the Chloe fan's should really open their eye's, and not create illusions in what they wish for, and create things that aren't there, and misunderstand when Clark hug's her, or say's he cares about her. He cares as a real friend does. Not in a romantic sense. I laugh so hard when I read some of the Chloe fan's misunderstanding a scene, rather than seing reality, that Clark is just a caring friend.
And no Clark would never have revealed his secret to Chloe, had Alicia not revealed it for him, because he saw the damage it created for Pete Ross, and pulled back from telling Lana his secret, because he didn't want anymore of his friends to suffer because of him, and the burden of his secret. Watch Season 3, the 2nd to the last show, where Pete tell's him good bye and why, then you'll understand I'm right, about Clark not ever revealing his secret to Chloe, if Alicia had not revealed it first. Because he cares to much about Chloe as a friend, to have her suffer as Pete did, but since she found out, he has to make the most of it.
Now as for Chloe the secret keeper sticking beside him through everything. Ask yourself why that is, and be honest with yourself !
Because she is totally obsessed with Clark, and in Love with him.
In real life if a person did to us what Chloe has done, and behaved in the Jealous rages she has shown through the Seasons we would have run from them in reality. Obsessed people are unpredictable. And Chloe has proved that point many times.
As for Lois passing Chloe as a reporter, we all know from the 69 years of the Superman Saga, That Lois Lane is going to be the Best reporter at the Daily Planet. So honestly, who do you think will win in that area ?? A 69 year old established Character ? or a new 6 year character created only for the Smallville Series ?
And if you say it's the 6 year character, my next question would be how much money do you want to bet that I know you are wrong !! LOL
As great as Chloe is, and I too think she's a great character. Lois will surpass her in time. No matter how good we are, their's always someone better. A True fact in Life. And since Lois is a comicbook character, all real fan's know she will be the winner in the end, and they will make it believable as they always do in the world of Comicbook's made TV Series, staying true to the history they have created for their characters.
Again it was fun as usual, debating with you, Hopefully I opened your eye's to a few Truth's and real fact's in my points to you.[QUOTE]

*SIGHS*. . .What am I going to do with you?:lol: Hello again my friendly adversary:) I've missed debating with you the past couple of days:) You know we can debate until the end of the series whether or not CHLARK will ever happen, and we will accomplish nothing:( Only Al/Miles and God knows the outcome of SMALLVILLE. . .You noticed that I said SV and NOT Superman;) I have my opinions and respectfully you have yours. We can contently AGREE to DISAGREE:) I do, however, have a few things that you said that I would like to address. . .Hey, you didn't think that you were going to get rid of me that easily, did ya?:lol:.

I know that since you work for MTV, you have access to the "inside" hollywood scoop, BUT until I hear in an OFFICIAL interview from AL/MILES that CHLARK will NEVER happen, then everything you said my friend was mere speculation. AL/MILES have always been vague about CHLARK'S relationship. Recently, AL said that romance MIGHT spoil their friendship. . .MIGHT being the operative word:) Also, he uses the "Jimmy" angle to support his theory, meaning how he couldn't break Jimmy's heart like that, because Chloe has stolen it:rolleyes:. HOWEVER, he NEVER said that CHLARK would NOT happen:) What's funny is that ALL of Al's answers to questions about CHLARK in interviews have been AMBIGUOUS! So you see, even AL doesn't know where they are going with CHLARK, BUT this season has shown Clark looking at his best friend in a new light:)

Like I said before, let's just AGREE to DISAGREE:)

[QUOTE]Chloe without a doubt has the attraction you speak of. But Clark does not, and that is shown over and over Season after Season.
Watch Season 3 episode "Devoted " Clark tell's her flat out he does not have the same feelings for her.
Chloe doesn't not view her and Clark as a brother and sister relationship. But with Clark, that's the feeling the writers give you,. Don't confuse friendship, feelings and caring for Love and attraction, merely because that's what you wish to see. It's not there. It's a one sided affair. And Chloe being obsessed with Clark, proves it over and over again. Their bond is totally platonic, because that's how Clark wants it to remain. Chloe on the other hand, that's a different story. LOL[QUOTE]

:lol:Oh, this is going to be so much fun to prove you WRONG! First of all, it was season 4 where Clark told Chloe that he did not feel the same way, BUT he ALSO said "AT LEAST NOT NOW.":) His last line was a CLEAR SIGN of their FORESHADOWED romance:)

ALSO, how can you say that Clark doesn't find Chloe attractive? Are we watching the same show?:confused: Haven't you seen BOUND? If you haven't, then I suggest that you watch it my friend:) He was CLEARLY turned on by her. . .NOT to mention seasons 1-2, where he even told her that she was beautiful. I'm sorry, BUT it is NOT a ONE-SIDED affair as you said. PLUS, what about this season?. . .The looks, touches, declaration of feelings, jealousy, lingering hugs. . .These are ALL signs of Clark's TRUE feelings:)

[QUOTE]Hi Again LOL I had to get involved in this one LOL
Let's look at the fact's of the Chloe character shall we ?
For all Chloe's good charactristics, she has equally bad one's.
Obsession and almost Stalker like behavior with Clark. Jealousy to where she takes it out on Clark and Lana in Seasons 1 and 2.
Betrayal of Clark to Lionel when things didn't go her way with Clark. But because of her obsession with him, she always run's back to Clark for forgiveness, to get back in with him, and silently wait for another chance that won't ever come.
I checked out your info, about the writers going to put Chloe and Clark together, until they discovered they would be signed for 2 more Seasons. 8 Seasons is correct, but they were never ever going to bring Chloe and Clark together, you got some wishful false info from some other Chloe fan. Working for MTV has it's perks, I can check things out quick, and I know a ton of people in the Comicbook world, Movie world and Music Industry. You got false info. But I did learn that the writers had toyed with the idea, of doing a show based on Chloe dreaming her and Clark had gotten together, and waking to find it was all a dream and Clark was still uninterested in the real world of the show LOL Kind of like a LexMas LOL Who know's maybe that would have been enough for you die hard Chloe fan's LOL But they dropped the idea, so it won't ever be as well. But at least you know it was out on the drawing table for a while LOL
Season's 6 and 7 and 8 will focus more on developing Lois into what she is to become, and bring both her and Clark very close together. Jimmy and Chloe totally in Love ( Thank God ! ) And Clark finally realizing his destiny, and becoming the Hero he was born to be. And symbol of Goodness, and Honor, and Intrigity that we as True Superman fan's have grown up to love and admire about him.
So you see, Chloe is not the Girl he'll grow into, Lois Lane is. The one he can't stand right now, is the one who will capture his Heart, and Clark will capture her's. In Season 4 they give hint by Lois herself what type of man she is attracted to, a geek with Glasses anyday LOL Thus enters the Clark Kent we all know and Love.
Alas !! Al/Miles will not bring Chloe and Clark together as you hope from what you thought were hint's in Season 2. DC Comics also Restricted them, from bringing Chloe and Clark together as an item. And you are right about Lois and Clark not getting into a full blown relationship on Smallville, but they are bringing them in close, and they will have touchie feelings moments thurout the seasons to come, along with plenty of kissing, and then do their now famous pull them away again LOL But we True Superman fan's can live with that LOL[QUOTE]

All I can say my friend is let's wait and see:)

I STILL HAVE CHLARK HOPE:), and AGAIN, Let's AGREE to DISAGREE:)

PhotoStarz

03-05-2007, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
I can see were you are coming from!! Im excited also to see what new fanasties they will create!!! I heard about that scene between Chloe and Clark were she tells him he's her hero. NEWSFLASH!!! When has she not told him that???!! Seriously. LOL. They need to get a life. I'm a Clois fan, but I don't go around and look for scenes to pick apart for little clues that aren't there. Well why would I need too, I know how the story turns out?! My husband was just talking to me about how intresting all these people are on this site. He barely knows anything about Superman and he can tell you how it all plays out. That's pretty sad compared to people that have been watching SV for years and still don't know the real outcome!! I love it !!!LOL!! I'm thinking on going back and watching some of these scenes Chlark fans have told me to watch for "proof" that there is a Chlark, just so I can prove them worng. Boy, am I gonna have some issues to talk about. This shall be fun! I really would like to see where these ideas are coming from! LOL. Not that they come from SV, but just what lines have these people infer stuff. Well I have an early morning tomorrow so I better go!! It was great talking to you agian! Talk to you later my friend! LOL

Hi again ! Just got home from LA and now I'm on my home computer !! So I can take more time LOL to really look at some of the posts. Again my wife like your husband, has figured out Smallville as well, and what is really happening in the Story. Smallville is the only show she really loves that I Love, and we watch it together. She's a big Lex Fan LOL But she told me how can these people think Clark is secretly in love with Chloe ?? They must not have eye's in their heads. You can tell by way Lois and Clark act, they will be the best partners together. Because they try to hard not to like or notice each other, but always end up noticing !! She's right, and she's from Russia !! LOL She also said why don't they like Jimmy ? He is good man !! And better suited for Chloe !! Right again !! LOL
I like Lois too, But I'm a Smallville /Superman fan first LOL so it wouldn't matter to me which actress they picked to play Lois, I'd still be rooting for Lois, because it follows the true Clark Kent / Superman storyline. But Erica is pleasant to look at LOL My wife teased me one time, when Chloe made Lois strip at the Strip Club, to get info, and all I said was oh Boy ! Let's see what Lois can do. Needless to say I missed that scene !! She covered my eye's LOL I finally saw it months later when I bought the DVD collection LOL
I too love how the Chlark fans look for little things trying to prove their points, and I do go back and watch them since I have every show on DVD and Season 6 on video tape. And the only thing that rings true is from Season 1 , but that was only because Clark was rebounding from Lana, due to Whitney. All the other thing's they point out... Is seing something that isn't there, and confusing friendship for Lust and Love LOL
Alot of Chloe wanna be's must really want Tom Welling LOL
And feel they will have him too, if Chloe get's him LOL
And that is funny !!! Nice chatting again ! Talk soon my Ally.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Thank God for you Lostfan588. . .I was starting to feel outnumbered:lol:

[B]CHLARK ALL THE WAY!!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Hi Again Sparring partner ! Sorry it took so long to get back to you, I have a deadline on the photo's I'm taking, so work comes first LOL I am happy to hear that you don't hate Lois, That would be a shame, her character is great, for the way they have her written right now. But so many of your fellow Chloe fan's !! And they know who they are !! Seem to think it's about body part's. Lois has bigger ( You know what's ) Lois has Longer leg's !!
But Chloe is the total package !! My question is what the heck does a chest size, and leg's have to do with anything ?? Why are most of the Chloe fan's so hung up on that point about Lois ???
Because it's mentioned often, and then they go on about how great Chloe is in other way's.
I Like all the characters on Smallville, even Lionel LOL Each one makes the show what it is. The Smallville writers will get away now and again from the true storyline of Clark, but they always bring it back on track. What Chloe fan's need to understand, is that the writers are, creating a build up for Lois and Clark, since the start of Season 4. And though Lois and Clark think they have no feelings for each other, they both have an electric attraction to each other. In Crusade, Lois get's to see Clark in the buff, and we can tell by her reaction, she liked what she saw, both in the cornfield and in the hospital. In Gone, Lois walks in on Clark while he is taking a shower, again in the buff LOL, and herself in nothing but one of Clarks shirts. In Devoted when Lois walks into the boy's gym room to get an interview with some of the football players, and Clark try's to stop her, she happily makes a comment about being happy Clark was checking her out. In Facade, both she and Clark show their Chemistry together when she dunks him in the pool, and then comes running over to him, and rub's his head, and is smiling, and Clark is smiling back at her and splashes water at her, and Chloe see's the attraction between the two of them, and get's all Depressed, the song playing was even perfect by Avril L. " So much for my Happy ending " The Chemistry between Lois and Clark is totally there.
What the writers are doing is, going the way of, giving them the chemistry, but making both of them try to deny they have it for each other, and at times, almost not being able to stand each other. And then Pow !! They bring it back and tease us again, and then pull away again LOL What they are doing is like in real life at times. We meet a person, and for one reason or another, think they are arrogant, ego maniac, know it all, and we can't stand them LOL They argue all the time, never see eye to eye, but then they connect, and like in real life, you fall in Love with the person so hard, you don't know how you could have ever lived without them. And that is what they are doing with Lois and Clark. Clark made it clear with Chloe in Devoted he didn't have the same feelings for her that she did for him. But as we all know Chloe has still obsessed on him, but tried to keep it secret.
The point I'm making is this, no matter how perfect a person might be in the eye's of others. Clark has seen what she has to offer, but he isn't attracted to her in that way, Chloe is missing that certain something, that makes a connection in that way with Clark. So it won't matter to him, how great she is or everything she can do. He doesn't feel for her the same way. He only feel's the bond of friendship for her, and he's made that point clear in many of the show's through out all the seasons, after the first Season, and in the first Season he was only settling for her, because he didn't think he would ever have Lana, because of Whitney. The big moment at the Prom, the almost kiss, then he finds out Lana is in trouble and quick as a flash, he's left Chloe in the dust, to race to Lana's side. Most of the Chloe fan's should really open their eye's, and not create illusions in what they wish for, and create things that aren't there, and misunderstand when Clark hug's her, or say's he cares about her. He cares as a real friend does. Not in a romantic sense. I laugh so hard when I read some of the Chloe fan's misunderstanding a scene, rather than seing reality, that Clark is just a caring friend.
And no Clark would never have revealed his secret to Chloe, had Alicia not revealed it for him, because he saw the damage it created for Pete Ross, and pulled back from telling Lana his secret, because he didn't want anymore of his friends to suffer because of him, and the burden of his secret. Watch Season 3, the 2nd to the last show, where Pete tell's him good bye and why, then you'll understand I'm right, about Clark not ever revealing his secret to Chloe, if Alicia had not revealed it first. Because he cares to much about Chloe as a friend, to have her suffer as Pete did, but since she found out, he has to make the most of it.
Now as for Chloe the secret keeper sticking beside him through everything. Ask yourself why that is, and be honest with yourself !
Because she is totally obsessed with Clark, and in Love with him.
In real life if a person did to us what Chloe has done, and behaved in the Jealous rages she has shown through the Seasons we would have run from them in reality. Obsessed people are unpredictable. And Chloe has proved that point many times.
As for Lois passing Chloe as a reporter, we all know from the 69 years of the Superman Saga, That Lois Lane is going to be the Best reporter at the Daily Planet. So honestly, who do you think will win in that area ?? A 69 year old established Character ? or a new 6 year character created only for the Smallville Series ?
And if you say it's the 6 year character, my next question would be how much money do you want to bet that I know you are wrong !! LOL
As great as Chloe is, and I too think she's a great character. Lois will surpass her in time. No matter how good we are, their's always someone better. A True fact in Life. And since Lois is a comicbook character, all real fan's know she will be the winner in the end, and they will make it believable as they always do in the world of Comicbook's made TV Series, staying true to the history they have created for their characters.
Again it was fun as usual, debating with you, Hopefully I opened your eye's to a few Truth's and real fact's in my points to you.[QUOTE]

*SIGHS*. . .What am I going to do with you?:lol: Hello again my friendly adversary:) I've missed debating with you the past couple of days:) You know we can debate until the end of the series whether or not CHLARK will ever happen, and we will accomplish nothing:( Only Al/Miles and God knows the outcome of SMALLVILLE. . .You noticed that I said SV and NOT Superman;) I have my opinions and respectfully you have yours. We can contently AGREE to DISAGREE:) I do, however, have a few things that you said that I would like to address. . .Hey, you didn't think that you were going to get rid of me that easily, did ya?:lol:.

I know that since you work for MTV, you have access to the "inside" hollywood scoop, BUT until I hear in an OFFICIAL interview from AL/MILES that CHLARK will NEVER happen, then everything you said my friend was mere speculation. AL/MILES have always been vague about CHLARK'S relationship. Recently, AL said that romance MIGHT spoil their friendship. . .MIGHT being the operative word:) Also, he uses the "Jimmy" angle to support his theory, meaning how he couldn't break Jimmy's heart like that, because Chloe has stolen it:rolleyes:. HOWEVER, he NEVER said that CHLARK would NOT happen:) What's funny is that ALL of Al's answers to questions about CHLARK in interviews have been AMBIGUOUS! So you see, even AL doesn't know where they are going with CHLARK, BUT this season has shown Clark looking at his best friend in a new light:)

Like I said before, let's just AGREE to DISAGREE:)

[QUOTE]Chloe without a doubt has the attraction you speak of. But Clark does not, and that is shown over and over Season after Season.
Watch Season 3 episode "Devoted " Clark tell's her flat out he does not have the same feelings for her.
Chloe doesn't not view her and Clark as a brother and sister relationship. But with Clark, that's the feeling the writers give you,. Don't confuse friendship, feelings and caring for Love and attraction, merely because that's what you wish to see. It's not there. It's a one sided affair. And Chloe being obsessed with Clark, proves it over and over again. Their bond is totally platonic, because that's how Clark wants it to remain. Chloe on the other hand, that's a different story. LOL[QUOTE]

:lol:Oh, this is going to be so much fun to prove you WRONG! First of all, it was season 4 where Clark told Chloe that he did not feel the same way, BUT he ALSO said "AT LEAST NOT NOW.":) His last line was a CLEAR SIGN of their FORESHADOWED romance:)

ALSO, how can you say that Clark doesn't find Chloe attractive? Are we watching the same show?:confused: Haven't you seen BOUND? If you haven't, then I suggest that you watch it my friend:) He was CLEARLY turned on by her. . .NOT to mention seasons 1-2, where he even told her that she was beautiful. I'm sorry, BUT it is NOT a ONE-SIDED affair as you said. PLUS, what about this season?. . .The looks, touches, declaration of feelings, jealousy, lingering hugs. . .These are ALL signs of Clark's TRUE feelings:)

[QUOTE]Hi Again LOL I had to get involved in this one LOL
Let's look at the fact's of the Chloe character shall we ?
For all Chloe's good charactristics, she has equally bad one's.
Obsession and almost Stalker like behavior with Clark. Jealousy to where she takes it out on Clark and Lana in Seasons 1 and 2.
Betrayal of Clark to Lionel when things didn't go her way with Clark. But because of her obsession with him, she always run's back to Clark for forgiveness, to get back in with him, and silently wait for another chance that won't ever come.
I checked out your info, about the writers going to put Chloe and Clark together, until they discovered they would be signed for 2 more Seasons. 8 Seasons is correct, but they were never ever going to bring Chloe and Clark together, you got some wishful false info from some other Chloe fan. Working for MTV has it's perks, I can check things out quick, and I know a ton of people in the Comicbook world, Movie world and Music Industry. You got false info. But I did learn that the writers had toyed with the idea, of doing a show based on Chloe dreaming her and Clark had gotten together, and waking to find it was all a dream and Clark was still uninterested in the real world of the show LOL Kind of like a LexMas LOL Who know's maybe that would have been enough for you die hard Chloe fan's LOL But they dropped the idea, so it won't ever be as well. But at least you know it was out on the drawing table for a while LOL
Season's 6 and 7 and 8 will focus more on developing Lois into what she is to become, and bring both her and Clark very close together. Jimmy and Chloe totally in Love ( Thank God ! ) And Clark finally realizing his destiny, and becoming the Hero he was born to be. And symbol of Goodness, and Honor, and Intrigity that we as True Superman fan's have grown up to love and admire about him.
So you see, Chloe is not the Girl he'll grow into, Lois Lane is. The one he can't stand right now, is the one who will capture his Heart, and Clark will capture her's. In Season 4 they give hint by Lois herself what type of man she is attracted to, a geek with Glasses anyday LOL Thus enters the Clark Kent we all know and Love.
Alas !! Al/Miles will not bring Chloe and Clark together as you hope from what you thought were hint's in Season 2. DC Comics also Restricted them, from bringing Chloe and Clark together as an item. And you are right about Lois and Clark not getting into a full blown relationship on Smallville, but they are bringing them in close, and they will have touchie feelings moments thurout the seasons to come, along with plenty of kissing, and then do their now famous pull them away again LOL But we True Superman fan's can live with that LOL[QUOTE]

All I can say my friend is let's wait and see:)

I STILL HAVE CHLARK HOPE:), and AGAIN, Let's AGREE to DISAGREE:)

LOL LOL I'll agree with that !! LOL ( TO disagree that is LOL )
But seriously, I am really curious, why do you want so bad for a union to take place between these two characters, knowing both their back rounds, and knowing it wouldn't make it or Last ??
Because Clark is set for a higher Destiny, and purpose in Life.
And you yourself, admitted that you know Clark and Lois are the real future. So I am very curious to understand your point, to why you would want a meaningless one night affair that would destroy Chloe, because she would never get over it, knowing her character as well as we all do. We can't always have what we want, and alot of times it's for our own good, as in the case with Chloe. It's better for her if it doesn't happen, if you pretend that the characters are real, and how a real Chloe would react, to getting, what she wants finally, and then losing it forever. That would be too bad a loss for her to deal with, since for 6 Seasons, she has totally obsessed over Clark. The writers write extremely well, and we can almost envision them as live people, so if we pretend and go there, don't you see the harm it would cause the Chloe character, to lose the end all, be all man she thinks Clark is ? Because no one night fling with anyone would be worth that kind of pain and rejection. Look at it that way and the real fact's that I have presented to you. Would you really do that to a character you love so much ?? Or a person in real life, given the same circumstances ?? Because you need to look as if Chloe were real to answer this one LOL I await your answer LOL

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
LOL LOL I'll agree with that !! LOL ( TO disagree that is LOL )
But seriously, I am really curious, why do you want so bad for a union to take place between these two characters, knowing both their back rounds, and knowing it wouldn't make it or Last ??
Because Clark is set for a higher Destiny, and purpose in Life.
And you yourself, admitted that you know Clark and Lois are the real future. So I am very curious to understand your point, to why you would want a meaningless one night affair that would destroy Chloe, because she would never get over it, knowing her character as well as we all do. We can't always have what we want, and alot of times it's for our own good, as in the case with Chloe. It's better for her if it doesn't happen, if you pretend that the characters are real, and how a real Chloe would react, to getting, what she wants finally, and then losing it forever. That would be too bad a loss for her to deal with, since for 6 Seasons, she has totally obsessed over Clark. The writers write extremely well, and we can almost envision them as live people, so it we pretend and go there, don't you see the harm it would cause the Chloe character, to lose the end all, be all man she thinks Clark is ? Because no one night fling with anyone would be worth that kind of pain and rejection. Look at it that way and the real fact's that I have presented to you. Would you really do that to a character you love so much ?? Or a person in real life, given the same circumstances ?? Because you need to look as if Chloe were real to answer this one LOL I await your answer LOL

I missed a big part of your letter, and only saw the agree to disagree, you must have been editing LOL
So to respond to all of your Letter ! LOL Didn't think you'd get rid of me that fast either did you ?? LOL
Yes ! You are right, I do have an unfair advantage over you in the information dept, due to the fact I work for MTV, so without going into alot of detail, nothing I said was speculation, it's facts I know for sure. The writers say things like you pointed out, to keep Chloe fan's like yourself's watching and hoping. It keeps the ratings up, so we can have more seasons of Smallville. But Jimmy will be Chloe's main man, and Love interest very very soon. So you will be able to put it to rest. They are also suppose to bring in a few more Heroes from the Future Justice League, but I don't know yet who they will be. I'm hoping for The Green Lantern ! He's a great character, and extremely Powerful. Only weakness, the color yellow. Anyways, we can keep on disagreeing, for the fun of it, even after my point is proved later this Season, or first part of the 7th Season LOL I like people like you, that give me a great mental challenge, to really research things LOL
I'm having alot of fun !! I hope you are too !! Your a great Battle against Buddy !! LOL
Ps you were right about the Season numbering, my finger hit 3 instead of 4 LOL, and I was too tired last night to check and edit !
But I got episode right so I think you know it was a slip of the fingers LOL Hey !! I was tired !!! It was a long stressful day !!
LOL LOL
One more thing !! I own all of the Smallville Seasons on DVD, and have video taped season 6 to hold me till the dvd collection comes out. I even have the unaired pilot for Smallville that had a different Martha Kent actress. And to make it short, Bound and the others, are again speculation on your part. It's how you read into it. You want to see the Chlark thing, so that's all you'll see. I know the true storyline of what happens, and realize that isn't what is going on. So we could debate that issue forever LOL
If you knew me better you'd understand, I only quote something when I know for sure, otherwise I'll point out I am speculating.
Not to crush you or anything, but what I said about Jimmy and Chloe will be a fact very soon. And I think it's great. Chloe needs someone like her. And you'll except it too in time. Don't make me have to say " I told you so when it finally happens LOL
Remember MTV opens alot of doors, and I know a hell of alot more than I can say LOL

To Lostfan588

I Loved your message. If I was still single and a Bad Boy, I'd say that too. Go for both LOL

chlark=destiny

03-06-2007, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
LOL LOL I'll agree with that !! LOL ( TO disagree that is LOL )
But seriously, I am really curious, why do you want so bad for a union to take place between these two characters, knowing both their back rounds, and knowing it wouldn't make it or Last ??
Because Clark is set for a higher Destiny, and purpose in Life.
And you yourself, admitted that you know Clark and Lois are the real future. So I am very curious to understand your point, to why you would want a meaningless one night affair that would destroy Chloe, because she would never get over it, knowing her character as well as we all do. We can't always have what we want, and alot of times it's for our own good, as in the case with Chloe. It's better for her if it doesn't happen, if you pretend that the characters are real, and how a real Chloe would react, to getting, what she wants finally, and then losing it forever. That would be too bad a loss for her to deal with, since for 6 Seasons, she has totally obsessed over Clark. The writers write extremely well, and we can almost envision them as live people, so if we pretend and go there, don't you see the harm it would cause the Chloe character, to lose the end all, be all man she thinks Clark is ? Because no one night fling with anyone would be worth that kind of pain and rejection. Look at it that way and the real fact's that I have presented to you. Would you really do that to a character you love so much ?? Or a person in real life, given the same circumstances ?? Because you need to look as if Chloe were real to answer this one LOL I await your answer LOL

I missed a big part of your letter, and only saw the agree to disagree, you must have been editing LOL
So to respond to all of your Letter ! LOL Didn't think you'd get rid of me that fast either did you ?? LOL
Yes ! You are right, I do have an unfair advantage over you in the information dept, due to the fact I work for MTV, so without going into alot of detail, nothing I said was speculation, it's facts I know for sure. The writers say things like you pointed out, to keep Chloe fan's like yourself's watching and hoping. It keeps the ratings up, so we can have more seasons of Smallville. But Jimmy will be Chloe's main man, and Love interest very very soon. So you will be able to put it to rest. They are also suppose to bring in a few more Heroes from the Future Justice League, but I don't know yet who they will be. I'm hoping for The Green Lantern ! He's a great character, and extremely Powerful. Only weakness, the color yellow. Anyways, we can keep on disagreeing, for the fun of it, even after my point is proved later this Season, or first part of the 7th Season LOL I like people like you, that give me a great mental challenge, to really research things LOL
I'm having alot of fun !! I hope you are too !! Your a great Battle against Buddy !! LOL
Ps you were right about the Season numbering, my finger hit 3 instead of 4 LOL, and I was too tired last night to check and edit !
But I got episode right so I think you know it was a slip of the fingers LOL Hey !! I was tired !!! It was a long stressful day !!
LOL LOL
One more thing !! I own all of the Smallville Seasons on DVD, and have video taped season 6 to hold me till the dvd collection comes out. I even have the unaired pilot for Smallville that had a different Martha Kent actress. And to make it short, Bound and the others, are again speculation on your part. It's how you read into it. You want to see the Chlark thing, so that's all you'll see. I know the true storyline of what happens, and realize that isn't what is going on. So we could debate that issue forever LOL
If you knew me better you'd understand, I only quote something when I know for sure, otherwise I'll point out I am speculating.
Not to crush you or anything, but what I said about Jimmy and Chloe will be a fact very soon. And I think it's great. Chloe needs someone like her. And you'll except it too in time. Don't make me have to say " I told you so when it finally happens LOL
Remember MTV opens alot of doors, and I know a hell of alot more than I can say LOL

To Lostfan588

I Loved your message. If I was still single and a Bad Boy, I'd say that too. Go for both LOL

Hello again buddy!:) Sorry, you're not crushing my CHLARK HOPE!:lol: Even IF the stuff you say will happen, NOTHING IS SET IN STONE;) This season is proof of that. . .There were A LOT of changes this season, so between NOW and NEXT season something is BOUND to change:lol:

PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Hello again buddy!:) Sorry, you're not crushing my CHLARK HOPE!:lol: Even IF the stuff you say will happen, NOTHING IS SET IN STONE;) This season is proof of that. . .There were A LOT of changes this season, so between NOW and NEXT season something is BOUND to change:lol:

Hopefully it's ending the Lana and Clark thing, so Clark can move on and they can start playing with Lois with him. Yes there will be alot of changes, not one's you like though LOL LIke Jimmy and Chloe. But again you'll except it with time, because if you are really a Chloe fan, you'll be happy for her.
You avoided my question about the Chloe and Clark reasons why it wouldn't work if they had gotten together. I am curious why you didn't answer ??

chlark=destiny

03-06-2007, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Hopefully it's ending the Lana and Clark thing, so Clark can move on and they can start playing with Lois with him. Yes there will be alot of changes, not one's you like though LOL LIke Jimmy and Chloe. But again you'll except it with time, because if you are really a Chloe fan, you'll be happy for her.
You avoided my question about the Chloe and Clark reasons why it wouldn't work if they had gotten together. I am curious why you didn't answer ??

I never said that I wanted Chloe and Clark to have a one night stand. . .you must be confusing me with another poster:lol: I don't think that Chloe or Clark would ever allow that to happen, BUT that doesn't mean that they can't still be in a relationship because of the FUTURE CLOIS. NONE of the characters on SV know the outcome (Superman ends up with Lois Lane), so why does it bother so many CLOIS fans like yourself if CHLARK is shown on SV. PLUS, CLOIS doesn't even happen UNTIL years of training! If CHLARK does happen, then I would think that you would be happy about that. . .Why you ask?:lol: Well, Chloe is the one who has encouraged Clark to embrace his destiny. She has accepted him for who he is, and she truly loves him, and I STRONGLY BELIEVE that Clark loves her;) You know, you CLOIS fans should actually THANK Chloe, because SHE IS THE ONE WHO ENCOURAGED CLARK TO BE A SUPERHERO. . .SHE HELPED SHAPE THE LEGEND THAT WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE. . .SUPERMAN:)
I don't know how to make you see that, BUT the love is there, and it is STRONG;) ALSO, I'm NOT just saying that because I am a CHLOE or CHLARK fan:\ They have a connection that runs DEEPER than sex:rolleyes: Even Allison Mack (CHLOE) said in an interview that they (CHLARK) love each other like crazy :)

Do you and the other antis despise Chloe that much?:( Give the poor girl a chance at happiness:( Sure, she could be happy with Jimmy, BUT deep down, her heart will ALWAYS belong to Clark:) How can Jimmy compete?. . .He can't:). CHLARK NEEDS TO HAPPEN. . .LANA IS HIS PAST. . .CHLOE IS HIS PRESENT. . .LOIS IS HIS FUTURE. . .EVERYONE WINS:) WHAT'S SO HARD ABOUT THAT:confused: Is it really that important to you and the other antis to dash our (CHLARK) HOPE?:confused: So Lana and Lois get a shot with Clark, but Chloe who has stuck by his side since season 1 is left out in the cold just because of CLOIS?:rolleyes: That's NOT a good reason. . .Sorry, I don't buy it.

Like I said in my previous posts, we can sit here until pigs fly and debate CHLARK vs. CLOIS, and we would still get nowhere:( Evidently, your OPINIONS are just as STRONG as mine, so I guess we have something in common. . .STUBBORNESS:lol: I apologize if I was getting kind of mouthy, but it's late, and even though you are my friendly adversary, I still see you as the enemy:lol:. . .nah, I didn't mean that:lol: Whew, I guess I better put away my dueling pistol:lol: Good night my sparring partner!:)

InLove_with_Chloe

03-06-2007, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Hi nice to meet you !! Nice to see another Jimmy and Chloe fan ! I think the two of them look great together, and make a perfect couple !!
I disagree. Totally.

thedarknight

03-06-2007, 06:57 AM

I think someone should take a list of names; those who are Chlarker's and those who aren't. That way by the end of the series we can see who was right.

BTW, I'm a non-Chlarker

I really don't see why Chloe HAS to hook up with Clark. She has Jimmy afterall. Clark should have only eyes for Lana.

And lets say Chlark does happen. What becomes of Lana? - seeing as the romantic and confident role are both taken by Chloe. It doesn't make writing sense for Chlark to happen.

KryptonScouse

03-06-2007, 07:34 AM

"I think someone should take a list of names; those who are Chlarker's and those who aren't. That way by the end of the series we can see who was right."

When did a competition start up? lol. I thought it was just a healthy debate? Meh.

I think Chlark should happen, because nobody in their right mind would hook up with Lana, she's repulsive.

PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
I never said that I wanted Chloe and Clark to have a one night stand. . .you must be confusing me with another poster:lol: I don't think that Chloe or Clark would ever allow that to happen, BUT that doesn't mean that they can't still be in a relationship because of the FUTURE CLOIS. NONE of the characters on SV know the outcome (Superman ends up with Lois Lane), so why does it bother so many CLOIS fans like yourself if CHLARK is shown on SV. PLUS, CLOIS doesn't even happen UNTIL years of training! If CHLARK does happen, then I would think that you would be happy about that. . .Why you ask?:lol: Well, Chloe is the one who has encouraged Clark to embrace his destiny. She has accepted him for who he is, and she truly loves him, and I STRONGLY BELIEVE that Clark loves her;) You know, you CLOIS fans should actually THANK Chloe, because SHE IS THE ONE WHO ENCOURAGED CLARK TO BE A SUPERHERO. . .SHE HELPED SHAPE THE LEGEND THAT WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE. . .SUPERMAN:)
I don't know how to make you see that, BUT the love is there, and it is STRONG;) ALSO, I'm NOT just saying that because I am a CHLOE or CHLARK fan:\ They have a connection that runs DEEPER than sex:rolleyes: Even Allison Mack (CHLOE) said in an interview that they (CHLARK) love each other like crazy :)

Do you and the other antis despise Chloe that much?:( Give the poor girl a chance at happiness:( Sure, she could be happy with Jimmy, BUT deep down, her heart will ALWAYS belong to Clark:) How can Jimmy compete?. . .He can't:). CHLARK NEEDS TO HAPPEN. . .LANA IS HIS PAST. . .CHLOE IS HIS PRESENT. . .LOIS IS HIS FUTURE. . .EVERYONE WINS:) WHAT'S SO HARD ABOUT THAT:confused: Is it really that important to you and the other antis to dash our (CHLARK) HOPE?:confused: So Lana and Lois get a shot with Clark, but Chloe who has stuck by his side since season 1 is left out in the cold just because of CLOIS?:rolleyes: That's NOT a good reason. . .Sorry, I don't buy it.

Like I said in my previous posts, we can sit here until pigs fly and debate CHLARK vs. CLOIS, and we would still get nowhere:( Evidently, your OPINIONS are just as STRONG as mine, so I guess we have something in common. . .STUBBORNESS:lol: I apologize if I was getting kind of mouthy, but it's late, and even though you are my friendly adversary, I still see you as the enemy:lol:. . .nah, I didn't mean that:lol: Whew, I guess I better put away my dueling pistol:lol: Good night my sparring partner!:)

LOL Entertaining as usual LOL Before I start on your letter, I watched "Bound" again, because you mentioned that as a key point to your theory. LOL What I saw was Chloe shamelessly throwing herself at Clark, as she always does. Trying to get Clark going. And you can see Clark is clearly uncomfortable with it. LOL
Not a good point !! Chloe was acting like a love starved woman, using the re-enacting of Lex's night to take advantage of Clark, and then trying to play it off. If it happened to a normal guy, 95 % would have crossed the line, just because the woman came onto him. But still walked away from her after it was over, kind of the way Lex did in the show. The other 5% the classy guy's would have put her in check and stopped it. Clark Kent has higher Moral Values than Mere mortals LOL He wouldn't cross that line, because he himself , knows it wouldn't work with Chloe, and he'd end up hurting her in the end. Watch the part with his folks after he saves Lex from the Crazy Chick, and he is talking about Lex and all the women he has hurt, that he just learned of. You'll find your real answer to who Clark Kent really is, and realize there was no way, anything was going on with Clark and Chloe on Bound. For Chloe there was LOL Not for Clark !! He's made of better stuff LOL
Now on to your letter. I look at reality Dear !! You and I both understand Clark and Lois are the Future and where it is headed for sure. We have both agreed already on that point. Knowing this information, it is logical to conclude all Chloe can get from Clark would be a meanless one night stand, and not forever as she wants from him. And you and I both know Chloe wants him forever. But since we both know the History of Clark Kent and who he will become, and know they will not change 69 years worth of storyline. It could only be a meanless hook up, which would cause Chloe to go off the deep end. There for it is pointless to bring the two, together. Clark wouldn't hurt Chloe that way, he cares to much about her as a person and friend, and seems to live by a higher standard of Morals than Chloe is.
I am referring to the shameless way she came on to him, pretending it was for science to help Lex LOL I see that kind of thing all the time in my line of work as well, with others.
As for her staying in the storyline to maintain and help Clark, I agree with you. Chloe is outstanding in helping Clark. She just has to get away from the Romantic fantasies she has created in her mind of her and Clark and move on. Thus, enter Jimmy into the picture. He clears up Chloe's head, and get's her off the romantic illusion she has been on for 6 seasons, and she finally see's there are other wonderful guy's out there that will love her for herself. And she finally let's go, and without all the romantic BS and shameless come on's to Clark anymore, she finally becomes a True Real friend without hidden motives.
The reason I asked you that question was to get you to take a hard look at the reality of what would happen , had the writers brought Chloe and Clark together on the show, and how much damage it would have caused. I understand that you saw my point, even though you didn't say it, by how you chose to approach your answer to me, on an attack in a whole different level. Chloe is not Clark's present, she's his Ally and friend. You keep confusing Love for a person and friend as Romantic love, and that's where your problem lie's. There is a differance between the two kinds of Love. To bad you can't see it, and keep making up illusions in your mind, because it is your wish that they get together. Like Chloe is living in the fantasy world that she and Clark will have a Happily ever after, so are you ? Time for you to both wake up LOL
As for Despising Chloe ? Whatever gave you that idea ? I like her character, but she isn't meant for Clark, and I understand this. Why can't you ?? Your biggest mistake is confusing Compassion and and deep caring, for romantic Love with these two characters.
Clark loved Pete Ross like a brother and had the same bond with him that he does with Chloe. Should Gay's start pounding you on why Clark is suppose to be with Pete LOL Hope I made my point with that humourous one LOL Clark had the same type of feeling with Pete, yet no one is running around saying they should be together ( At least I hope no one is LOL )
There are all different kinds of Love in this wonderful world my friend. Chloe has the Romantic Love, Clark has the deep love of friendship, and True compassion and caring for Chloe. There is no Romantic love inside him for Chloe. You chose to live in a false reality making something more than there is between them, based on your own Love for Chloe and her character. Doesn't make it real, or what is really happening, or going to happen in the show. Except to yourself and a very few select others. Come on ! You seem to be an intelligent woman, you know what I'm saying is true, and I am going off True facts, why do you continue to delude yourself and argue ? If everyone didn't know the real Truth of Lois and Clark, I wouldn't be making this point, and you would have a good case !! And who knows what the heck would have happened. In that reality your wish could have come true, but we are in this reality, where Lois and Clark are meant to be and will be together. It's a Fact !!
You condemned yourself with your own words, and proved my point about a meanless hook up that would lead to no where with Clark and Chloe, and destroy the Chloe character in the end.
Here's your own words that prove my point :

CHLARK NEEDS TO HAPPEN. . .LANA IS HIS PAST. . .CHLOE IS HIS PRESENT. . .LOIS IS HIS FUTURE. . .EVERYONE WINS:)

It would seem I care more for Chloe than you. I don't want to see her hurt and destroyed by a meanless union with Clark, that won't last by your own sentence and words. You out right admit Chloe and Clark don't have a future together, Lois will take that spot up in time. But still you push for a meanless union, which everyone in the real world knows is a sexual union.
You disrespect and dishonor, the Character Clark Kent is , and stands for. You confuse him with a mere earth boy , that would act on sexual impulse in a heartbeat LOL You mistake Chloe's come on's and Clark's reactions as attraction LOL
Watch Bound again at the end, when Clark is with his family and he speaks of Lex hurting all those women. Then you'll see how badly you have misjudged the Clark Kent character, and understand him better and know why, Clark will never go there with Chloe. He Loves her as a friend ! Not a Lover ! He doesn't ever want to hurt her, so he can never go there, unless he chose her forever, and we all know he won't. Because Lois is coming to fill that spot in his heart in the Future just like you admitted in your statement to me.
You self professed Chlark Lovers, don't look at reality, and assume everyone hates Chloe. Boy are you wrong on all of us !!
We all like Chloe, and think she is great, but we watch the shows just like you, but more with an open mind to what is really going on in the show. So we see all the bad traites and good one's in each of the characters. But you seem to put blinders on when it comes to Chloe, so if we point out the things that aren't good in the character, you instantly think we hate the character ! How wrong you are !! We love all the characters !! We are just being objective, and pointing out the truth's.
Sorry you got so upset, people tend to do that when they have lost their point and grasp for straws. Normal to lash out in anger, I woke you up from your illusion, so your pissed at me LOL
I never lose my cool, even when I'm tired !! Because I look at everything with common logic, and common sense. I look at the True fact's of the show, know the reality of where it is headed and who Clark will be with in the future, understand the character Clark Kent is, and why he can't go where you want him too. Nothing we have both said, should anger anyone one of us, yet with you it did. Interesting. You may have to step back alittle from the character you love, your getting a little too close LOL
Don't get mad or angry. Just understand where I am coming from as I do with you. As for you, you get your wish, Chloe and Clark will have a good relationship as Best Friends, in the up and coming Seasons of Smallville, to want more than that would prove my point, that you are looking for the meaningless hook up, that you right now deny, but in several past posts confirmed you wanted LOL I caught one of your mistakes too LOL Just like you did with my slip of the finger LOL That was fun wasn't it ?
But I am sorry if I made you mad, that was not my intent, because you are really a fun people to talk with, for a Chlarker ! LOL LOL
P.S. I am not a Lois Fan ! I'm a Smallville/Clark Kent Superman Fan. and I adore every character on the show. And I'm also a fan of the real and True storyline, the way it was created 69 years ago

Originally posted by thedarknight
I think someone should take a list of names; those who are Chlarker's and those who aren't. That way by the end of the series we can see who was right.

BTW, I'm a non-Chlarker

I really don't see why Chloe HAS to hook up with Clark. She has Jimmy afterall. Clark should have only eyes for Lana.

And lets say Chlark does happen. What becomes of Lana? - seeing as the romantic and confident role are both taken by Chloe. It doesn't make writing sense for Chlark to happen.

You have got your Act together. And see things Clearly with Common sense and Logic. I agree with you totally.

Originally posted by KryptonScouse
"I think someone should take a list of names; those who are Chlarker's and those who aren't. That way by the end of the series we can see who was right."

When did a competition start up? lol. I thought it was just a healthy debate? Meh.

I think Chlark should happen, because nobody in their right mind would hook up with Lana, she's repulsive.

Hi KryptonScouse
I'm a Smallville/Clark Kent/Superman Fan that adores every character on the show. But why is it when someone points out why something should not be with the Chloe and Clark characters. The self professed Chlarkers attack LOL and say everyone dislikes Chloe ? And how Clark and Chloe are suppose to be ? Smallville for the main part of the show follows the storyline created 69 years ago. So True Smallville/ Clark Kent /Superman fan's know how the ending is going to turn out. The fact's are all there. The proof of what I am saying is there.
That's all we are defending. We all like Chloe just as much as you, we just aren't as obsessed on the character as Chlarkers are LOL There is no competion, when you already know the outcome !
Common sense proves that LOL As for Lana she has served her point in the Storyline, and it is time to move on, but not with Chloe. This will be a time of Clark coming to terms with the Hero he will become very soon, and knowing he has a higher purpose in Life. Once he realizes that Lana and Chloe will be his past, and his new Love will be Mankind, and even though he and Lois do get together later on. Mankind will be Clark's and Superman's main focus, and not some childish school girl crush that Chloe has for him. Mankind in the end will be Superman and Clark's love, when the real Hero Superman finally emerges from him. 69 years worth of proof to prove it LOL

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I disagree. Totally.

Then get ready to be disapointed in your thoughts as Season 6 and 7 prove you wrong LOL

Khyla

03-06-2007, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by chlark=destiny
Thank God for you Lostfan588. . .I was starting to feel outnumbered:lol:
How could you feel outnumbered. All you have to do is look up at the results of the poll! It shows that @ 75% who viewed "Freak" say that they got CHlark out of it; either as much as they'd hoped for or they wished there was even more.) Only a sad 15.58 % didn't see any Chlark.... so who's outnumbered?

CHLARK ALL THE WAY!!!!
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PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 12:39 PM

Mr. Wrong

03-06-2007, 01:26 PM

I think Chloe and Clark have great chemistry and seem to be on the same page most of the time these days. However, Lois and Clark have been building a relationship on a far more even keel. There has been no betrayals or lies between them and neither is completely smitten with the other. The chemistry and grudging respect has developed nicely. Chlarkers are living with the hope that TPTB will come up with a stategy to allow them to consumate their relationship and to hell with the consequences. I doubt that TPTB will go that route as they would likely lose more fans than they would mollify.IMO

meteor_phreak

03-06-2007, 02:02 PM

I think that after chloe kissed clark in vessel, or at times like the thanksgiving dinner episode when he was looking around the table, or when clark found out chloe was dating jimmy, they have shown that there is some awkwardness between Chlark. Just because you interpret it differently doesn't mean we are making things up, or that we aren't basing things in reality.

If they got together, there would be no reason a break-up after giving it their best shot would ruin chloe, she's a much stronger character than that.

I think a poll to see who's right and who's wrong is totally missing the point. I'm not even saying whether or not i think it's gonna happen, just that it SHOULD happen. the story points in that direction, IMO, and the characters seem to want that.

Let's not forget that in addition to all the forshadowing...clark only agreed to the just friends thing in season 2's opener because chloe suggested it. he was like, "uh...sure...yeah, that's what i was going to say." not a direct quote, i'm at work. but the way the line was delivered, they definitely wanted to make it look like that was NOT what he was thinking.

PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
I think Chloe and Clark have great chemistry and seem to be on the same page most of the time these days. However, Lois and Clark have been building a relationship on a far more even keel. There has been no betrayals or lies between them and neither is completely smitten with the other. The chemistry and grudging respect has developed nicely. Chlarkers are living with the hope that TPTB will come up with a stategy to allow them to consumate their relationship and to hell with the consequences. I doubt that TPTB will go that route as they would likely lose more fans than they would mollify.IMO

You put that nicely ! I could not have put it better myself !! Well Done !!

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
I think that after chloe kissed clark in vessel, or at times like the thanksgiving dinner episode when he was looking around the table, or when clark found out chloe was dating jimmy, they have shown that there is some awkwardness between Chlark. Just because you interpret it differently doesn't mean we are making things up, or that we aren't basing things in reality.

If they got together, there would be no reason a break-up after giving it their best shot would ruin chloe, she's a much stronger character than that.

I think a poll to see who's right and who's wrong is totally missing the point. I'm not even saying whether or not i think it's gonna happen, just that it SHOULD happen. the story points in that direction, IMO, and the characters seem to want that.

Let's not forget that in addition to all the forshadowing...clark only agreed to the just friends thing in season 2's opener because chloe suggested it. he was like, "uh...sure...yeah, that's what i was going to say." not a direct quote, i'm at work. but the way the line was delivered, they definitely wanted to make it look like that was NOT what he was thinking.

You forgot about Season 4 episode 4 "Devoted " where Clark tell's Chloe flat out, that he doesn't have the same feeling's for her.
Plus alot of people don't realize, Jimmy was Chloe's first Love, and she lost her virginity to him, as explained in Season 4 episode 11 " Unsafe " as she and Lana are talking, and Chloe shares her first time, and loss of virginity. Jimmy and Chloe already have major history together. And it is nice to see they brought them back together. First Love's are always special. So you see, Clark isn't even her first Love.
Besides, you should already know, Clark goes on to Lois when he becomes Superman. So that totally destroy's your idea of if they got together ( Chloe & Clark ) that they would last. It would be Doomed from the start. Read the Smallville Magazines, Lois is the coming future and has been for the last 69 years.
For every10 Chlark fan's there are, There's a 1000 True Superman fan's that watch the show as well that aren't on this site, do you think the writers would risk losing all the True fan's of Clark Kent and Superman ? When they wouldn't tune in anymore, and rating plunge, and the show would get cancelled. The writers and creators from DC Comics aren't going to let it happen. It's a Muti Million Dollar character. The True Devoted Fan's have got you outnumbered, all the way back to the Baby Boomer Generation, and farier back than that. Superman is known in every household, in America, in one way or another. And if they did a poll on the street and asked people who Clark Kent/Superman's Girlfriend is " They would all answer Lois Lane !! You have too much history of the character against you.

Mr. Wrong

03-06-2007, 03:10 PM

Right on the money PhotoStarz,
Chlarkers are determined if nothing else. Just for the record, CK is no longer capable of physical love as he is not a terrestrial being.

PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Wrong
Right on the money PhotoStarz,
Chlarkers are determined if nothing else. Just for the record, CK is no longer capable of physical love as he is not a terrestrial being.

LOL Right you are again LOL Nice to see a Real Clark Kent/Superman Fan on line !!! Who respects the History of the storyline for the last 69 years as much as I do. And isn't out to turn him into a gigolo for Chloe fan's LOL

greysfan511

03-06-2007, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
LOL Right you are again LOL Nice to see a Real Clark Kent/Superman Fan on line !!! Who respects the History of the storyline for the last 69 years as much as I do. And isn't out to turn him into a gigolo for Chloe fan's LOL

I decided to respond to your last post and reflect on all of them!! Wow!!! Many arguments!! I love it!! Looks like your keeping your game face on! Well done!! Many of your arguments I couldn't have said it better myself!! Looks like I missed a lot, work was a killer today! Many new deadlines!! AHH..LOL. It's nice to come on hear and see you arguing for what is true! Well you've pretty much said it all!! You and chlark=destiny really duke it out! Only your right, but I respect her opinions. LOL. It makes me laugh when she thinks that simple hugs are a sign of passion, and love. HA! Friends give each other hugs all the time!! So... Clark and Chloe are just friends. On what chlark=destiny said about in Bound when Clark looks intrested, when is that , cause I think I missed it. LOL. If she's talking about the whole elevator scene, then Chloe was so taking advantage of Clark. LOL. He didn't look even the slightest but intrested. Even in season on's Hug, he looked totally disgusted when she kissed him. There is no connection between them in a romantic sense. Only as good friends. I love Jimmy and Chloe!! He's so sweet, they make an excellent couple!! Why would Al break them up like that. I couldn't disagree more with the statement made by many people, that as the seasons progress Chlark will come!! NO IT WON"T!! As SV nears it's end Al/Miles will be moving closer to Clois not further away!!! Why is this so hard to undertstand for them???!!LOL. It brings me much joy to read these posts by Chlark fans that are so living in a fanasty, when we, my friend, are in the real world. I wanna hear what they say when Clois is really starting to show. Another point I have to prove. People say that it doesnt matter what happens on SV cause it's not Superman. True, but SV is telling the story about Superman growin up, so Al/Miles has to include things from Superman in it. SV is show about the young superman, or have I been blind these 6 years? Come on people!! See the real truth. Well that was good fun. I'm looking forwar to your response!! Stay true my Ally!! LOL.

meteor_phreak

03-06-2007, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz You forgot about Season 4 episode 4 "Devoted " where Clark tell's Chloe flat out, that he doesn't have the same feeling's for her.first of all, i didn't. how ironic i watched that episode yesterday anyway. He said "at least right now." and when martha asked him earlier in the episode, he didn't say no. he said "the problem is, I'm not over lana yet. those two things mean to me that he could, given time and circumstances change his mind or decide he was ready. I'm not sayin it's gonna happen(read my last post, instead of taking crap out of context) just that it looks to me like it should.
Plus alot of people don't realize, Jimmy was Chloe's first Love, and she lost her virginity to him, as explained in Season 4 episode 11 " Unsafe " as she and Lana are talking, and Chloe shares her first time, and loss of virginity. Jimmy and Chloe already have major history together. And it is nice to see they brought them back together. First Love's are always special. So you see, Clark isn't even her first Love.no real disagreement with your point about first loves, but jimmy was chloe's first SEX, not LOVE. even anti-chlarkers don't deny she was in love with him.
Besides, you should already know, Clark goes on to Lois when he becomes Superman. So that totally destroy's your idea of if they got together ( Chloe & Clark ) that they would last.again, are you reading my post or using the force? I said, not that it would last, but that it wouldn't ruin anything to be short lived. again, as someone else said, just cause you know how it ends, and so do i, and so does tom welling probably at this point, CLARK KENT DOES NOT. NEITHER DOES CHLOE. just let the story tell itself. jeez.
It would be Doomed from the start. Read the Smallville Magazines, Lois is the coming future and has been for the last 69 years.
For every10 Chlark fan's there are, There's a 1000 True Superman fan's that watch the show as well that aren't on this site, do you think the writers would risk losing all the True fan's of Clark Kent and Superman ? When they wouldn't tune in anymore, and rating plunge, and the show would get cancelled. The writers and creators from DC Comics aren't going to let it happen. It's a Muti Million Dollar character. The True Devoted Fan's have got you outnumbered, all the way back to the Baby Boomer Generation, and farier back than that. Superman is known in every household, in America, in one way or another. And if they did a poll on the street and asked people who Clark Kent/Superman's Girlfriend is " They would all answer Lois Lane !! You have too much history of the character against you. [/B]If I posted what i really thought of your self-righteous, holier-than-thou posting attitude and your insults about us not being true, wait "True" like capitalizing it matters, it'd just get edited or the post locked anyway. don't doubt that I'm a "True Devoted Fan" of superman. my comics history dates back to 20 years before i was born, and when i inherited my fathers collection, mostly marvel(I have fantastic four, iron man, the avengers and captain america #1's in my basement along with spiderman #3 and #7), and I like Lois, even EDLois because of her banter with clark. how is it so difficult to understand that while smallville turns into superman, it isn't already superman. Clark should feel free to like chloe or lana or a meteor freak right now, because there is gonna be enough time to change later.

greysfan511

03-06-2007, 05:35 PM

meteor_phreak

03-06-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
you couldnt be more wrong. Wake up and smell the coffee, Chlark will never happen! Sorry to disapoint you. see, this type of post doesn't bother me. i'm not so sure it'll ever happen either, though you would have gotten that by reading. disagreements are what makes the internet fun. it's just the not-so-veiled insults to my intelligence in the other post.

on the other hand, i did just watch 'bound' and clark was uncomfortable, but he was about to give in, ha. i actually like how everything is so open to interpretation, but i'm tellin ya....Chlark isn't the best thing since sliced bread. it is actually better than sliced bread. i'm eating a sandwich right now, so i'd know.

PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
I decided to respond to your last post and reflect on all of them!! Wow!!! Many arguments!! I love it!! Looks like your keeping your game face on! Well done!! Many of your arguments I couldn't have said it better myself!! Looks like I missed a lot, work was a killer today! Many new deadlines!! AHH..LOL. It's nice to come on hear and see you arguing for what is true! Well you've pretty much said it all!! You and chlark=destiny really duke it out! Only your right, but I respect her opinions. LOL. It makes me laugh when she thinks that simple hugs are a sign of passion, and love. HA! Friends give each other hugs all the time!! So... Clark and Chloe are just friends. On what chlark=destiny said about in Bound when Clark looks intrested, when is that , cause I think I missed it. LOL. If she's talking about the whole elevator scene, then Chloe was so taking advantage of Clark. LOL. He didn't look even the slightest but intrested. Even in season on's Hug, he looked totally disgusted when she kissed him. There is no connection between them in a romantic sense. Only as good friends. I love Jimmy and Chloe!! He's so sweet, they make an excellent couple!! Why would Al break them up like that. I couldn't disagree more with the statement made by many people, that as the seasons progress Chlark will come!! NO IT WON"T!! As SV nears it's end Al/Miles will be moving closer to Clois not further away!!! Why is this so hard to undertstand for them???!!LOL. It brings me much joy to read these posts by Chlark fans that are so living in a fanasty, when we, my friend, are in the real world. I wanna hear what they say when Clois is really starting to show. Another point I have to prove. People say that it doesnt matter what happens on SV cause it's not Superman. True, but SV is telling the story about Superman growin up, so Al/Miles has to include things from Superman in it. SV is show about the young superman, or have I been blind these 6 years? Come on people!! See the real truth. Well that was good fun. I'm looking forwar to your response!! Stay true my Ally!! LOL.

Hi My Ally !! We have few more that have joined our Crusade on maintaining the True Storyline. It's been easy to deal with the Chlark fan's. Most are young and don't have the knowledge of the whole story and History behind Clark Kent/Superman. So I can see where it is easy for them to fall into the fantasy thing, some of the older one's are selling. But what I have seen in all of them, is trying to deny the Truth about what the future holds. Avoiding questions, and going to shows like " Bound " That prove Chloe is the aggressor in all the moments with Clark. The elevator scene was Chloe all the way, with Clark uncomfortable and embarassed. Poor choice for trying to prove a point that isn't there. And then looking over all their posts on how Jimmy is so wrong for Chloe, and why didn't he call, and they just dated. The Chlarkers stayed away from the fact, Chloe lost her virginity with Jimmy LOL I'm glad the writers brought him in, and made him her main love interest.
As for chlark=destiny ... She's a fun one alright, she dukes, but I TKO her everytime, due only too , presenting the real fact's , and not just wishful thinking. Logic and Real facts will win everytime, in a debate, when the person is fighting for a dream that they wish and hope for, and has nothing to disprove the real facts in front of them. Others go off limited info, based solely on Smallville, because they didn't become a fan till then. But I think once these people understand what I have been saying, they might go out, and rent a couple of the movies, buy a couple of the comics. And finally understand where we, The True Fan's are coming from. All we can do is Hope for them LOL Because there is more to the young Clark Kent who becomes Superman, than they are seing right now.
I just watched " unsafe and Pariah back to back, and Clark showed more feeling in those two episodes for Alicia than he has in 6 seasons with Chloe on Smallville. And the pain he went through as she lay dead in his arm's, was very intense. And when he found her killer, he told him " You killed Alicia !! I loved her !! and you took that away from me, and he had tears coming out of his eye's. That was real Love. To bad she had to die ! I really liked her character. But I know she didn't fit in the True storyline, so I knew something like that would happen. If we didn't know this storyline for the last 69 years, I would have voted for him to be with Alicia, she was a better match for him than Chloe or Lois.
But since I do know the story, oh well !! I know I can't change it !
Wish the Chlarkers could figure that simple thing out as well LOL
Well my Ally !! Thanks again for your support ! It means alot !!
Talk soon LOL Another battle to fight LOL

greysfan511

03-06-2007, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
Hi My Ally !! We have few more that have joined our Crusade on maintaining the True Storyline. It's been easy to deal with the Chlark fan's. Most are young and don't have the knowledge of the whole story and History behind Clark Kent/Superman. So I can see where it is easy for them to fall into the fantasy thing, some of the older one's are selling. But what I have seen in all of them, is trying to deny the Truth about what the future holds. Avoiding questions, and going to shows like " Bound " That prove Chloe is the aggressor in all the moments with Clark. The elevator scene was Chloe all the way, with Clark uncomfortable and embarassed. Poor choice for trying to prove a point that isn't there. And then looking over all their posts on how Jimmy is so wrong for Chloe, and why didn't he call, and they just dated. The Chlarkers stayed away from the fact, Chloe lost her virginity with Jimmy LOL I'm glad the writers brought him in, and made him her main love interest.
As for chlark=destiny ... She's a fun one alright, she dukes, but I TKO her everytime, due only too , presenting the real fact's , and not just wishful thinking. Logic and Real facts will win everytime, in a debate, when the person is fighting for a dream that they wish and hope for, and has nothing to disprove the real facts in front of them. Others go off limited info, based solely on Smallville, because they didn't become a fan till then. But I think once these people understand what I have been saying, they might go out, and rent a couple of the movies, buy a couple of the comics. And finally understand where we, The True Fan's are coming from. All we can do is Hope for them LOL Because there is more to the young Clark Kent who becomes Superman, than they are seing right now.
I just watched " unsafe and Pariah back to back, and Clark showed more feeling in those two episodes for Alicia than he has in 6 seasons with Chloe on Smallville. And the pain he went through as she lay dead in his arm's, was very intense. And when he found her killer, he told him " You killed Alicia !! I loved her !! and you took that away from me, and he had tears coming out of his eye's. That was real Love. To bad she had to die ! I really liked her character. But I know she didn't fit in the True storyline, so I knew something like that would happen. If we didn't know this storyline for the last 69 years, I would have voted for him to be with Alicia, she was a better match for him than Chloe or Lois.
But since I do know the story, oh well !! I know I can't change it !
Wish the Chlarkers could figure that simple thing out as well LOL
Well my Ally !! Thanks again for your support ! It means alot !!
Talk soon LOL Another battle to fight LOL

Well great points!! I too loved Alichia and would have liked her character to stay on the show!! As you I know the reall story, and she isn't apart of it. I really like the actress Sarah Carter and I've been watching her on her new show "Shark". It's great!! Totally different character and she acts way different! I also agree with your insite on how Chloe is always the pursuer not the pursued. LOL. She was totally jelous of Alichia, not that she even said it, but you could tell. Why wouldn't she be?? LOL. She always has been. I'm excited for the seasons to come, to see the Clois relashinship come into view, a little bit more. Hoperfull, Clana will be left in the dust. Hopefully you feel the same way I do about Clana. Useless, and annoying. They are fine as friends, not in a romantic sense. Great talking to you again my friend and ally. We are doing a great job of holding our ground!! LOL.

meteor_phreak

03-06-2007, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
But what I have seen in all of them, is trying to deny the Truth about what the future holds. Avoiding questions, and going to shows like " Bound " That prove Chloe is the aggressor in all the moments with Clark...And then looking over all their posts on how Jimmy is so wrong for Chloe, and why didn't he call, and they just dated. The Chlarkers stayed away from the fact, Chloe lost her virginity with Jimmy LOL I'm glad the writers brought him in, and made him her main love interest...Others go off limited info, based solely on Smallville, because they didn't become a fan till then. But I think once these people understand what I have been saying, they might go out, and rent a couple of the movies, buy a couple of the comics. And finally understand where we, The True Fan's are coming from. All we can do is Hope for them LOL Because there is more to the young Clark Kent who becomes Superman, than they are seing right now.see i didn't do any of these things...but that's cool...

PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by greysfan511
Well great points!! I too loved Alichia and would have liked her character to stay on the show!! As you I know the reall story, and she isn't apart of it. I really like the actress Sarah Carter and I've been watching her on her new show "Shark". It's great!! Totally different character and she acts way different! I also agree with your insite on how Chloe is always the pursuer not the pursued. LOL. She was totally jelous of Alichia, not that she even said it, but you could tell. Why wouldn't she be?? LOL. She always has been. I'm excited for the seasons to come, to see the Clois relashinship come into view, a little bit more. Hoperfull, Clana will be left in the dust. Hopefully you feel the same way I do about Clana. Useless, and annoying. They are fine as friends, not in a romantic sense. Great talking to you again my friend and ally. We are doing a great job of holding our ground!! LOL.

You don't realize how done I am with Lana. It has gone on way too long. So Long I'd even prefer Chloe, just to end the Lana thing LOL But I want more Lois and Clark. Erica and Tom have an energy between the two of them, that screams attraction LOL
And the two, together make one hell of an attractive couple !!
I haven't heard of the show Shark with Sarah Carter on it, what channel is that on ?? I'll check it out in my down time till I leave on the 15 th. Doesn't it seem like forever for Promise and March 15th to finally get here ? LOL
The new seasons too come will hold more Clark and Lois drawing ever closer to each other. And more Heroes for the future JLA , and Jimmy and Chloe growing into a deeper more real relationship. I Look forward to it all. Your right we are holding our own, as out numbered as we are on this post LOL

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
see i didn't do any of these things...but that's cool...

That's good ! Nice to talk with a Chloe fan that at least understands the true storyline, and knows it isn't about debating. We are only standing up for the True Story and Saga of Clark Kent and Superman. Thank you for your honest post !
And between you and me ! Keep on being a fan of Chloe ! I Like her too, she's great !! She just won't be the love of Clarks Life.

meteor_phreak

03-06-2007, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
You don't realize how done I am with Lana. It has gone on way too long. So Long I'd even prefer Chloe, just to end the Lana thing LOL But I want more Lois and Clark. Erica and Tom have an energy between the two of them, that screams attraction LOL
And the two, together make one hell of an attractive couple !!
I haven't heard of the show Shark with Sarah Carter on it, what channel is that on ?? I'll check it out in my down time till I leave on the 15 th. Doesn't it seem like forever for Promise and March 15th to finally get here ? LOL
The new seasons too come will hold more Clark and Lois drawing ever closer to each other. And more Heroes for the future JLA , and Jimmy and Chloe growing into a deeper more real relationship. I Look forward to it all. Your right we are holding our own, as out numbered as we are on this post LOL

That's good ! Nice to talk with a Chloe fan that at least understands the true storyline, and knows it isn't about debating. We are only standing up for the True Story and Saga of Clark Kent and Superman. Thank you for your honest post !
And between you and me ! Keep on being a fan of Chloe ! I Like her too, she's great !! She just won't be the love of Clarks Life. see i agree with you about lana, but i think i really respect the stuff that chlark have between each other. i do like how they hint about clark and lois, but just cause that comes in a few years doesn't mean us Chlarkers can't have a few episodes here. i just wanted to point out that even some "true story" people still like chlark.

Khyla

03-06-2007, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by PhotoStarz Ahhh ! The Queen of fantasy herself !...

wow i am flattered to have earned such a title! :o :lol After all, Fantasy Sci-Fi is my passion and u are probably right; that tptb will not make the outcome of this type of story (and with so much history already behind it) into a new lesson with some moral purpose or reasoning behind it, without any real-life drama or situations to relate to or react to and deal with.. I suppose it's purpose is ultimately to entertain us, to wow us and shock us and even surprise us, all for the sake of entertainment and entertainment alone... and whatever they think can get those ratings up through trial and error, hype and teases, and creating action for action's sake. :rollseyes: i mean like when have they ever depicted real-world type scenarios like oh say a runaway teen escaping thru an induced state to feel good so he doesn't feel he needs to take responsibilities for his actions?....kinda like that?

TODAY'S FANTASY WORLDS TEND TO TEST AND THEN REWARD ULTIMATE TRUST, SACRIFICE, DEVOTION, AND FAITH, WITH ULTIMATE LOVE AND POWER. But i guess if Smallville isn't going to follow that, then i guess anything goes...

tptb have already begun throwing us a twist that would possibly begin to remove one of those qualities; faith; by making Chloe out to be a meteor freak and result in a break down of Clark's faith in her, thus further deter a Chlark hook-up...

You say I'm "on a one-woman crusade"?? :lol: .... I am but a spec, a pinion in the faction of the fanbase that hails Chlark as the one true relationship on SV. The many Chlark threads sprinkled throughout this site are proof enough of that. :)

You falsely say i have admitted knowing nothing of the Superman history, etc.
--here's the exact quote from my post to which you refer. -- I added the bold here to emphasize the line u skipped over--
(original post found at:http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2857045#post2857045):
quote:"[the following sentence here is made up but for the sake of getting my point across:] I'm sorry, but i havent a clue what you're talking about since i have never heard of or read any comics or seen any "Superman" movies; i mean, who is Superman? I only know what i know from watching the TV show called Smallville..." /quote
(Sorry, i guess my way of wording it was poorly done, but i'm not that eloquent of a writer. :( I'm a graphic artist/designer and software app. engineer. I think in pictures, shapes and forms)

The point I was trying to make was that IMO Smallville is a Universe unto itself irrespective of the past 69 years of Superman history that, yes, I do know something about. Anyone who actually looks at it this way though IMO cannot help but see Chlark as it has been presented and wouldn't even consider Clois as forthcoming.

But correct me if i'm wrong, i believe the majority of those "69 years" Superman did NOT have a wife, or even a real true honest to goodness girlfriend.

Superman belongs to the world. If he were to have a girlfriend it would have to be someone who was willing to share him with the world. who knows what sacrifice is, who knows what devotion is, who is resilient, trustworthy, has faith in his abilities and encourages his growth and self-confidence. someone who understands his uniqueness and the problems that it can present... someone with whom his relationship has been tested on many levels and has only resulted in a stronger bond... someone he feels comfortable with and who truly makes him happy. Smallville has already demonstrated that person to us, and to Clark.

Let me end with saying, i would hope that Almiles would be the ones to breathe new life into the Superman saga, the ones to be bold and daring, to rejuvenate and yes increase the number of fans who will consider Smallville most praiseworthy! to go where no comics has gone before.... as they have already demonstrated to us, it seems they just might have the b****s to pull it off... to create new generations of hero-worshippers with a new story and a new twist that will capture everyone's attention!

To address your comment about the polls: I guess Chlarkers are the ones with the brains then, if, as you suggest, they are the only ones able to rigg or hack them in their favor :lol: ;)
NOTE: ---i will not be re-visiting this thread, so i will not be defending any more mis-quotes or false insinuations.

PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
first of all, i didn't. how ironic i watched that episode yesterday anyway. He said "at least right now." and when martha asked him earlier in the episode, he didn't say no. he said "the problem is, I'm not over lana yet. those two things mean to me that he could, given time and circumstances change his mind or decide he was ready. I'm not sayin it's gonna happen(read my last post, instead of taking crap out of context) just that it looks to me like it should.no real disagreement with your point about first loves, but jimmy was chloe's first SEX, not LOVE. even anti-chlarkers don't deny she was in love with him.again, are you reading my post or using the force? I said, not that it would last, but that it wouldn't ruin anything to be short lived. again, as someone else said, just cause you know how it ends, and so do i, and so does tom welling probably at this point, CLARK KENT DOES NOT. NEITHER DOES CHLOE. just let the story tell itself. jeez.If I posted what i really thought of your self-righteous, holier-than-thou posting attitude and your insults about us not being true, wait "True" like capitalizing it matters, it'd just get edited or the post locked anyway. don't doubt that I'm a "True Devoted Fan" of superman. my comics history dates back to 20 years before i was born, and when i inherited my fathers collection, mostly marvel(I have fantastic four, iron man, the avengers and captain america #1's in my basement along with spiderman #3 and #7), and I like Lois, even EDLois because of her banter with clark. how is it so difficult to understand that while smallville turns into superman, it isn't already superman. Clark should feel free to like chloe or lana or a meteor freak right now, because there is gonna be enough time to change later.

Ahh !! Someone new to talk with. I liked your first post it was very honest. The other one about the sandwich LOL It's a matter of opinion LOL THis one .... Let's see ! Let's start at the beginning of your responce. Amazingly enough I watched the same episode myself, reviewing something. Clark did add the at least not right now, but understand that's what guy's do, when they don't want to hurt someone, Which is the case with Clark. Chloe is his friend, he doesn't want to crush her totally LOL
As for answering Martha with " the problem is I'm not over Lana"
How can he care for Chloe when he loves another ?? But you see something that isn't there, thus you pointed out what you think in that scene. Your comment "Looks like it should, is the same, that's why I responded as I did. As for love between Jimmy and Chloe at the time of their Affair, I agree also, more an act of passion and lust. No Love involved. The Love I speak of is in Season 6, Jimmy finally came to terms with his feelings for Chloe and they get together, and Chloe is returning those feelings back to him. In Freak she was mind wiped. Who knows how far back, so she lost the last few day's when the Romance between her and Jimmy was heating up. On too the part I really want to address.
Like the rest, you keep missing the point, all True Clark Kent /Superman fan's are pointing out to you all. Clark Kent in his young years in Smallville, has been laid out in the DC Comics Universe. And Smallville's Clark Kent is based off Jeff East's performance in The 1st Superman movie. As much as you think you know, I know alot more.
Ahh I see anger in your post : Let's have fun with it shall we ?
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jeez.If I posted what i really thought of your self-righteous, holier-than-thou posting attitude and your insults about us not being true, wait "True" like capitalizing it matters, it'd just get edited or the post locked anyway. don't doubt that I'm a "True Devoted Fan
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Sounds to me like the only self Righteous person is you. And a bad attitude as well. At least with the other Chlarkers, I respect them and their views though we don't agree eye to eye, because they all conduct themselves in an adult matter, something you lack in, by this paragraph you wrote.
I agree with you, you aren't a Clark Kent/Superman Fan, because if you were, you'd be intelligent enough to understand the point I have been defending, and presenting to you and others. I have found in life, that people who lack the knowledge always resort to these type of tactics. And the one that get's mad first has already lost. And I just smile, knowing nothing you could say could offend me. Now that we have that point out of the way.

Let's move on :
You inherited your fathers collection of comics. Sounds like a nice collection. I have owned 3 Comicbook Shop's in my Life so far, and will open another here in Las Vegas in another 4 years when I retire from MTV. I own a poor condition copy of Action number 1 the first appearance of Superman from 1938, and even in the poor condition it is worth a fortune, because under 300 copies remain. I also have an Amazing Fantasy 15 The origin first appearance of Spiderman. I have 5 copies of X-men number one, plus over 6000 Silver age comics from Marvel and Dc Comics and quite a few other company's. From the 70's to present I own over 30,000 comics. All titles. I have them in storage for when I re open a new store in four years. I know the comicbook world extremely well. I had too, you have to know what's going on in a story to relate to the comic fan's that come into your shop. My knowledge on the subject goes back ever farier than yourself, and more intense. I'd keep the Spidey 3 and 7 in a cool dark place they are worth alot in good condition.
Back to our talk :

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how is it so difficult to understand that while smallville turns into superman, it isn't already superman. Clark should feel free to like chloe or lana or a meteor freak right now, because there is gonna be enough time to change later. [/B][/QUOTE]
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That is the point I'm trying to make to you ! How difficult is it for you to understand ,While Clark is not flying around in the cape and Blue tights, he's still going to become Superman. That's what Smallville is all about ! And why it's on the air. This show isn't about Clark's Sex life LOL It's showing Clark had all the values and morals, Honor and Intrigity from the beginning, thanks to the Kent's and the wonderful up bringing they gave Clark as a child.
How many times has Clark had the chance to really go for it with alot of women on Smallville, besides Chloe, and he always kept himself in check, and conducted himself as a gentleman. Smallville has made him a great role model for the little one's who watch Smallville right along with us. Because in this day and age, most teenagers only think about sex, and the pursuit of getting it from any girl or guy who is willing. Thank God, the writers kept true to who Clark Kent is, and what he's all about. And show us there are some people left, who's lifes aren't ruled by sex and attraction, and always do the right thing, and behave as a gentleman. I am 46 years old, and I have a daughter who is 26, and she brought a little grandson into my life that is now 4 years old. I love Smallville because it is the story of a young Superman, So I introduced my little Grandson to Clark Kent the young Superman on Smallville, and he loves it, and to him, Clark already is Superman. so don't say Superman isn't on the show ! He's already here ! Where have you been while he is using his powers LOL The final point, you forget about all the children that watch Smallville like my little Grandson. how would it look to them having Clark bounce from girl to girl, then all of his female friends ?
It's better, the way the writers are going with Clark, true to the DC Comics Universe and the way they wrote him. We have to have some Heroes that know what Honor and Intrigity and moral values mean. We already have enough, of the loose way of life on tv as it is. It's about time they put a True Hero on, that reflects the good in man, rather than the worst.
Fan's of Smallville with kid's will understand this point, I hope you do as well. Forgive me if I was more blunt with you, your one paragraph, deserved that kind of responce back. But it isn't who I am, nor do I think it is who you are. I am impressed by your collection of comics, hang onto them ! The issues you spoke of are going up fast, and maybe worth more than you think.
Thank you for writing back to me in responce. I enjoyed your letter alot, even the mean part LOL I respect you for saying what you felt, and you have the right to do so. I hope you will write again. I understand your points, I hope you do with mine as well.

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
see i agree with you about lana, but i think i really respect the stuff that chlark have between each other. i do like how they hint about clark and lois, but just cause that comes in a few years doesn't mean us Chlarkers can't have a few episodes here. i just wanted to point out that even some "true story" people still like chlark.

Now see there you did it !! You made me like you again LOL
This is how I like to talk with people, nice and polite. The true story is important to so many of us, and keeping true with the history of Superman/Clark Kent Saga over the last 69 years. Many of us grew up with loving the Superman character as children and that love for the character followed into our Adult lifes, and we want to share that same history with our kid's and grandchildren, so they too will Love and respect and admire Clark Kent the man of Steel, and he will become a Hero to them as he was to us as children. So it is offensive when Chlarkers suggest, Clark becoming like a normal earth teenager with Sex on the brain. LOL We all want Clark to remain the great character he has always been. Lana was exceptable even though, nothing really happened in the comicbooks between them, the way it did in Smallville. But again we could except it because she was a True Love interest for Clark in the old 1950's and 1960's issues of Superboy comicbooks. If they bring Lori The Mermaid girl into Smallville we can except her as well, she is another of the 3 great Loves of Superman as shown in the 69 year history and storyline.
Then finally comes Lois Lane. But Chloe isn't part of that Universe, DC Comics created so many years ago. So real and true fan's can't except her, as anything more than a good friend, to Clark. Clark has to remain the symbol of goodness, on Smallville in order to follow the True nature of the character and how DC Comics created him to be. That's why a meaningless union for the two characters serves no purpose. We all want the real storyline to be followed ! That's all. We all like Chloe too. Just not with Clark in that way. She hasn't been in the DC Universe long enough to earn that Honor.
Thanks again for your nice letter. I liked it much more than the last one LOL

Originally posted by meteor_phreak
see i agree with you about lana, but i think i really respect the stuff that chlark have between each other. i do like how they hint about clark and lois, but just cause that comes in a few years doesn't mean us Chlarkers can't have a few episodes here. i just wanted to point out that even some "true story" people still like chlark.

Don't you love those teasers they do ?? LOL I think the writers really enjoy doing that from what I read in the Smallville magazine LOL

PhotoStarz

03-06-2007, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by Khyla
wow i am flattered to have earned such a title! :o :lol After all, Fantasy Sci-Fi is my passion and u are probably right; that tptb will not make the outcome of this type of story (and with so much history already behind it) into a new lesson with some moral purpose or reasoning behind it, without any real-life drama or situations to relate to or react to and deal with.. I suppose it's purpose is ultimately to entertain us, to wow us and shock us and even surprise us, all for the sake of entertainment and entertainment alone... and whatever they think can get those ratings up through trial and error, hype and teases, and creating action for action's sake. :rollseyes: i mean like when have they ever depicted real-world type scenarios like oh say a runaway teen escaping thru an induced state to feel good so he doesn't feel he needs to take responsibilities for his actions?....kinda like that?

TODAY'S FANTASY WORLDS TEND TO TEST AND THEN REWARD ULTIMATE TRUST, SACRIFICE, DEVOTION, AND FAITH, WITH ULTIMATE LOVE AND POWER. But i guess if Smallville isn't going to follow that, then i guess anything goes...

tptb have already begun throwing us a twist that would possibly begin to remove one of those qualities; faith; by making Chloe out to be a meteor freak and result in a break down of Clark's faith in her, thus further deter a Chlark hook-up...

You say I'm "on a one-woman crusade"?? :lol: .... I am but a spec, a pinion in the faction of the fanbase that hails Chlark as the one true relationship on SV. The many Chlark threads sprinkled throughout this site are proof enough of that. :)

You falsely say i have admitted knowing nothing of the Superman history, etc.
--here's the exact quote from my post to which you refer. -- I added the bold here to emphasize the line u skipped over--
(original post found at:http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2857045#post2857045):
quote:"[the following sentence here is made up but for the sake of getting my point across:] I'm sorry, but i havent a clue what you're talking about since i have never heard of or read any comics or seen any "Superman" movies; i mean, who is Superman? I only know what i know from watching the TV show called Smallville..." /quote
(Sorry, i guess my way of wording it was poorly done, but i'm not that eloquent of a writer. :( I'm a graphic artist/designer and software app. engineer. I think in pictures, shapes and forms)

The point I was trying to make was that IMO Smallville is a Universe unto itself irrespective of the past 69 years of Superman history that, yes, I do know something about. Anyone who actually looks at it this way though IMO cannot help but see Chlark as it has been presented and wouldn't even consider Clois as forthcoming.

But correct me if i'm wrong, i believe the majority of those "69 years" Superman did NOT have a wife, or even a real true honest to goodness girlfriend.

Superman belongs to the world. If he were to have a girlfriend it would have to be someone who was willing to share him with the world. who knows what sacrifice is, who knows what devotion is, who is resilient, trustworthy, has faith in his abilities and encourages his growth and self-confidence. someone who understands his uniqueness and the problems that it can present... someone with whom his relationship has been tested on many levels and has only resulted in a stronger bond... someone he feels comfortable with and who truly makes him happy. Smallville has already demonstrated that person to us, and to Clark.

Let me end with saying, i would hope that Almiles would be the ones to breathe new life into the Superman saga, the ones to be bold and daring, to rejuvenate and yes increase the number of fans who will consider Smallville most praiseworthy! to go where no comics has gone before.... as they have already demonstrated to us, it seems they just might have the b****s to pull it off... to create new generations of hero-worshippers with a new story and a new twist that will capture everyone's attention!

To address your comment about the polls: I guess Chlarkers are the ones with the brains then, if, as you suggest, they are the only ones able to rigg or hack them in their favor :lol: ;)
NOTE: ---i will not be re-visiting this thread, so i will not be defending any more mis-quotes or false insinuations.

Well I see we do have something in common. I am a big Sci fi fan as well. Star trek series being one of my favorites LOL
As for the Fantasy Queen, that was my way of saying Hi !! LOL
Since I assume you are the Queen Bee of the Chlarkers. I'm just addressing the leader of the pack so to speak. But don't get me wrong, I enjoy speaking with you, your more fun than some of the others. Now on to your statements :

Working in the Music Entertainment Industry I fully understand what you are saying, about how writers and producers will use whatever tactic they can, to entice viewers to come back and tune in LOL Such as with The Chloe /Clark thing, and building hopes up, just to take it away. Same with Lois, bring her close to Clark and then pull away. But then we get struck with more Lana LOL Boy do I understand what you are saying LOL

Now about the one woman Crusade LOL In a way you are the Spear head of it. If you haven't noticed it, I have !! You have a few followers, because it's always the same one's posting on different threads, and referring to your statements. You have a few more fan's than you know LOL
Now you know why I used one woman Crusade ! LOL
Yes !! You are right ! I missed the make believe part. I was wrong !! And not afraid to admit it. Forgive my mistake.

LOL I see something else we have in common, as a pro photographer for almost 16 years, I see pictures too, even without a camera, my eye's can't seem to turn off looking at people for the best Photo, and what their best angle is LOL

As for the Chlark thing as you say they presented it. They presented more that it was Chloe obsessed with Clark and in Love with him. We all felt sorry for her, when she read her letter to him, while he was unconscious, and then he called out " Lana
I am sure she won many over that day,and started them hoping she would hook up with Clark, after such a sweet letter. I would have gone that way as well, if I didn't already know how this story ends up. From knowing and understanding the whole story of Clark Kent aka Superman both young and old.
Maybe being in the Industry and knowing how we do things to promote stuff, I knew in advance what they were doing with the Clark/Chloe teasers, creating false hope, to keep those viewers tuning in, just as I knew what they were doing with Lois and Clark for the last 3 seasons. Giving me an unfair advantage.
But god some love to argue, and don't to look at reality, even when it's staring them right in the face. And just remain in the Clark /Chloe fantasy. The promotors for Smallville did one great job, on fooling them LOL
As for Superman not having a girlfriend, Lois Lane became the first one in the 1950's when she got her own comicbook called " Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane. Based off the Noel Neill Lois Lane, who was so popular in the 1950's starring George Reeves.
From there, Jimmy Olsen got his own comicbook called Supermans Pal Jimmy Olsen. From the 1950's on Lois Lane was the Gal for Superman and Clark Kent, and Jimmy Olsen his best Pal. Nothing has changed since then.
But I agree and you can see it in my other posts, because I said it before you. Superman belongs to the world !!!
You'd be interested to know right now, there is a comicbook that's out, that has Superman and Wonder Woman becoming a couple. That change I could live with LOL Because Superman does need a Super powered girlfriend he wouldn't have to worry about all the time. But DC Comics wants Lois, so there's nothing any of us can do about it. Al/Miles don't have the choice to go Boldly where no man has gone before, and hook Clark Kent/Superman up with Chloe, because DC Comics and Time Warner have nixed it, because it doesn't follow the Movie version of Superman. So Al/miles hands are tied, but Hey !! They can still tease you with the Chloe/Clark thing LOL But it will be a big let down by the Series ending in a couple of years, waiting for what never happens.
As for the poll's it isn't about who is smarter, you shame yourself with such an unworthy remark , Oh, Leader of the Chlarkers !! LOL Poll's can be rigged. Just go to a bunch of your friends homes who aren't Smallville fan's, sign up for the site, and cast a bunch of votes.
Just kidding ! I was only having fun with that statement. No one really cares about the poll's !! Forgive me !! To us, they don't matter ! They won't happen ! it's all about wish hoping. But oh how much fun it is to debate that with them LOL
It was fun speaking with you again Oh' Leader of the Chlarkers !
Again I apologize to you for the one thing I errored in with you.
It doesn't happen often for me, but when it does, I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

chlark=destiny

03-06-2007, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Khyla
How could you feel outnumbered. All you have to do is look up at the results of the poll! It shows that @ 75% who viewed "Freak" say that they got CHlark out of it; either as much as they'd hoped for or they wished there was even more.) Only a sad 15.58 % didn't see any Chlark.... so who's outnumbered?

CHLARK ALL THE WAY!!!!
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Thanks Khyla:) I can ALWAYS count on your OPTIMISM:) BTW, check your messages. . .I left you one:)

Originally posted by PhotoStarz
LOL Entertaining as usual LOL Before I start on your letter, I watched "Bound" again, because you mentioned that as a key point to your theory. LOL What I saw was Chloe shamelessly throwing herself at Clark, as she always does. Trying to get Clark going. And you can see Clark is clearly uncomfortable with it. LOL
Not a good point !! Chloe was acting like a love starved woman, using the re-enacting of Lex's night to take advantage of Clark, and then trying to play it off. If it happened to a normal guy, 95 % would have crossed the line, just because the woman came onto him. But still walked away from her after it was over, kind of the way Lex did in the show. The other 5% the classy guy's would have put her in check and stopped it. Clark Kent has higher Moral Values than Mere mortals LOL He wouldn't cross that line, because he himself , knows it wouldn't work with Chloe, and he'd end up hurting her in the end. Watch the part with his folks after he saves Lex from the Crazy Chick, and he is talking about Lex and all the women he has hurt, that he just learned of. You'll find your real answer to who Clark Kent really is, and realize there was no way, anything was going on with Clark and Chloe on Bound. For Chloe there was LOL Not for Clark !! He's made of better stuff LOL
Now on to your letter. I look at reality Dear !! You and I both understand Clark and Lois are the Future and where it is headed for sure. We have both agreed already on that point. Knowing this information, it is logical to conclude all Chloe can get from Clark would be a meanless one night stand, and not forever as she wants from him. And you and I both know Chloe wants him forever. But since we both know the History of Clark Kent and who he will become, and know they will not change 69 years worth of storyline. It could only be a meanless hook up, which would cause Chloe to go off the deep end. There for it is pointless to bring the two, together. Clark wouldn't hurt Chloe that way, he cares to much about her as a person and friend, and seems to live by a higher standard of Morals than Chloe is.
I am referring to the shameless way she came on to him, pretending it was for science to help Lex LOL I see that kind of thing all the time in my line of work as well, with others.
As for her staying in the storyline to maintain and help Clark, I agree with you. Chloe is outstanding in helping Clark. She just has to get away from the Romantic fantasies she has created in her mind of her and Clark and move on. Thus, enter Jimmy into the picture. He clears up Chloe's head, and get's her off the romantic illusion she has been on for 6 seasons, and she finally see's there are other wonderful guy's out there that will love her for herself. And she finally let's go, and without all the romantic BS and shameless come on's to Clark anymore, she finally becomes a True Real friend without hidden motives.
The reason I asked you that question was to get you to take a hard look at the reality of what would happen , had the writers brought Chloe and Clark together on the show, and how much damage it would have caused. I understand that you saw my point, even though you didn't say it, by how you chose to approach your answer to me, on an attack in a whole different level. Chloe is not Clark's present, she's his Ally and friend. You keep confusing Love for a person and friend as Romantic love, and that's where your problem lie's. There is a differance between the two kinds of Love. To bad you can't see it, and keep making up illusions in your mind, because it is your wish that they get together. Like Chloe is living in the fantasy world that she and Clark will have a Happily ever after, so are you ? Time for you to both wake up LOL
As for Despising Chloe ? Whatever gave you that idea ? I like her character, but she isn't meant for Clark, and I understand this. Why can't you ?? Your biggest mistake is confusing Compassion and and deep caring, for romantic Love with these two characters.
Clark loved Pete Ross like a brother and had the same bond with him that he does with Chloe. Should Gay's start pounding you on why Clark is suppose to be with Pete LOL Hope I made my point with that humourous one LOL Clark had the same type of feeling with Pete, yet no one is running around saying they should be together ( At least I hope no one is LOL )
There are all different kinds of Love in this wonderful world my friend. Chloe has the Romantic Love, Clark has the deep love of friendship, and True compassion and caring for Chloe. There is no Romantic love inside him for Chloe. You chose to live in a false reality making something more than there is between them, based on your own Love for Chloe and her character. Doesn't make it real, or what is really happening, or going to happen in the show. Except to yourself and a very few select others. Come on ! You seem to be an intelligent woman, you know what I'm saying is true, and I am going off True facts, why do you continue to delude yourself and argue ? If everyone didn't know the real Truth of Lois and Clark, I wouldn't be making this point, and you would have a good case !! And who knows what the heck would have happened. In that reality your wish could have come true, but we are in this reality, where Lois and Clark are meant to be and will be together. It's a Fact !!
You condemned yourself with your own words, and proved my point about a meanless hook up that would lead to no where with Clark and Chloe, and destroy the Chloe character in the end.
Here's your own words that prove my point :

CHLARK NEEDS TO HAPPEN. . .LANA IS HIS PAST. . .CHLOE IS HIS PRESENT. . .LOIS IS HIS FUTURE. . .EVERYONE WINS:)

It would seem I care more for Chloe than you. I don't want to see her hurt and destroyed by a meanless union with Clark, that won't last by your own sentence and words. You out right admit Chloe and Clark don't have a future together, Lois will take that spot up in time. But still you push for a meanless union, which everyone in the real world knows is a sexual union.
You disrespect and dishonor, the Character Clark Kent is , and stands for. You confuse him with a mere earth boy , that would act on sexual impulse in a heartbeat LOL You mistake Chloe's come on's and Clark's reactions as attraction LOL
Watch Bound again at the end, when Clark is with his family and he speaks of Lex hurting all those women. Then you'll see how badly you have misjudged the Clark Kent character, and understand him better and know why, Clark will never go there with Chloe. He Loves her as a friend ! Not a Lover ! He doesn't ever want to hurt her, so he can never go there, unless he chose her forever, and we all know he won't. Because Lois is coming to fill that spot in his heart in the Future just like you admitted in your statement to me.
You self professed Chlark Lovers, don't look at reality, and assume everyone hates Chloe. Boy are you wrong on all of us !!
We all like Chloe, and think she is great, but we watch the shows just like you, but more with an open mind to what is really going on in the show. So we see all the bad traites and good one's in each of the characters. But you seem to put blinders on when it comes to Chloe, so if we point out the things that aren't good in the character, you instantly think we hate the character ! How wrong you are !! We love all the characters !! We are just being objective, and pointing out the truth's.
Sorry you got so upset, people tend to do that when they have lost their point and grasp for straws. Normal to lash out in anger, I woke you up from your illusion, so your pissed at me LOL
I never lose my cool, even when I'm tired !! Because I look at everything with common logic, and common sense. I look at the True fact's of the show, know the reality of where it is headed and who Clark will be with in the future, understand the character Clark Kent is, and why he can't go where you want him too. Nothing we have both said, should anger anyone one of us, yet with you it did. Interesting. You may have to step back alittle from the character you love, your getting a little too close LOL
Don't get mad or angry. Just understand where I am coming from as I do with you. As for you, you get your wish, Chloe and Clark will have a good relationship as Best Friends, in the up and coming Seasons of Smallville, to want more than that would prove my point, that you are looking for the meaningless hook up, that you right now deny, but in several past posts confirmed you wanted LOL I caught one of your mistakes too LOL Just like you did with my slip of the finger LOL That was fun wasn't it ?
But I am sorry if I made you mad, that was not my intent, because you are really a fun people to talk with, for a Chlarker ! LOL LOL
P.S. I am not a Lois Fan ! I'm a Smallville/Clark Kent Superman Fan. and I adore every character on the show. And I'm also a fan of the real and True storyline, the way it was created 69 years ago

You have got your Act together. And see things Clearly with Common sense and Logic. I agree with you totally.

Hi KryptonScouse
I'm a Smallville/Clark Kent/Superman Fan that adores every character on the show. But why is it when someone points out why something should not be with the Chloe and Clark characters. The self professed Chlarkers attack LOL and say everyone dislikes Chloe ? And how Clark and Chloe are suppose to be ? Smallville for the main part of the show follows the storyline created 69 years ago. So True Smallville/ Clark Kent /Superman fan's know how the ending is going to turn out. The fact's are all there. The proof of what I am saying is there.
That's all we are defending. We all like Chloe just as much as you, we just aren't as obsessed on the character as Chlarkers are LOL There is no competion, when you already know the outcome !
Common sense proves that LOL As for Lana she has served her point in the Storyline, and it is time to move on, but not with Chloe. This will be a time of Clark coming to terms with the Hero he will become very soon, and knowing he has a higher purpose in Life. Once he realizes that Lana and Chloe will be his past, and his new Love will be Mankind, and even though he and Lois do get together later on. Mankind will be Clark's and Superman's main focus, and not some childish school girl crush that Chloe has for him. Mankind in the end will be Superman and Clark's love, when the real Hero Superman finally emerges from him. 69 years worth of proof to prove it LOL

Then get ready to be disapointed in your thoughts as Season 6 and 7 prove you wrong LOL

Hey sparring partner, I see you're not giving up:lol: Oh well, it has been NICE:D debating with you, BUT I think I'll stop for now. I have a BAD feeling that we may be breaking some rules on this messageboard. . .I was sort of warned not to take things too far:( I suggest that you be careful too;) Try to refrain from using derogatory terms or bashing characters. . .This is just some friendly advice:) Believe me, I've learned my lesson:eek: Let's just AGREE to DISAGREE:) Don't worry, I'm sure we'll talk again soon, BUT I think that I should play it cool for right now:( Good luck buddy!:)