Is Martha even thinking about her son's feelings?

[Charissa70]

:( I know that Martha, as always, was trying to help, but doesn't she ever put her son's feelings first?!!! In real life, you would think your mother was starting to hate you if first she attends your ex's engagement party when she knows you are not over it. She puts her up in your room, (okay, Lana was in danger, but where did Lois stay when she lived there?). At least, you call your kid first to warn him, make sure it's okay. AND MAKE SURE YOUR SON HAS NOTHING EMBARRASSING IN HIS ROOM!!!!! Didn't she think to look through his room quickly to see if her ALIEN son had something in his room that should not BE SEEN!!!!! or that he didn't have a shrine to her, since he still loved her?

Now, I bet the writers have Martha give Lana the bridal shower, at the Kent Farm. or Give her away or something else to embarrass Clark

[Effect]

Honestly I really wonder where they are going with Martha in this season. Ever since she took Pa Kent's senator seat she's sort of become really cold. Granted she can't be around much due to that but really it really does look like she doesn't even care anymore. Yes Clark is an adult now but still he is still her son and where is that motherly love?

Is she so focused on the job that she is ignored everything else?

I'm still waiting for the serious fallout of what he said to her about her and Lionel. First we see his fear of them together and then we see her at the engagement party. Sure she is free to meet someone else but it doesn't look like she cares at all about how Clark feels about it, especially with all the bad blood between the Luthor and Kent families.

[Puckhead]

Hey, now that she's a state Senator, Clark isn't her only constituency, she's got to please everyone.

[Jaded Wolf]

Maybe the politician life has made her cold like any other politician? Who knows? I thought it weird that Clark's room was given to Lana to stay in. Why not house her in the room Lois stayed in? I mean, Clark wasn't sleeping on the couch during the whole fourth season when Lois was there was he? The writers did not just to give Lana an excuse to snoop. I'll forgive them though since it gave Lana a chance to find the necklace. :p

[freefall]

Originally posted by Jaded Wolf
I mean, Clark wasn't sleeping on the couch during the whole fourth season when Lois was there was he?

I think he did. Episodes like Gone, Lucy, Commencement etc clearly showed he gave up his room for Lois. Most probably the Kent home only has two bedrooms.

[Skykisser]

Originally posted by seacrystal
I think he did. Episodes like Gone, Lucy, Commencement etc clearly showed he gave up his room for Lois. Most probably the Kent home only has two bedrooms.
Yeah I remember at the start of Commencement ep, Clark was sleeping on the couch when he woke up from his dream.

[Superman86]

Maybe Martha just wants Lex and Lana to vote for her when her term is up. She rather be in power than love her illegally adopted child. lol

[Clark Jr. the great]

Well the thing is she still cares deeply for lana. First of is that wish thing in the pilot. the rest is that martha knows that lana is a dear person to clark and even before clark came it seemed like martha was very friendly towards lana so she would go to the wedding. You see lana is a dear person to her. She would go to lois's, chloe's or lana's wedding no matter who they are marrying.

[alienkinfolk]

Why couldn't Lana wait in Martha's room?

& why Clark's room of all rooms. Unless she's knows for certian that Clark doesn't keep anything in his room that would give up his identity.And i find that hard to believe.
Martha allowed Lana to trespass on Clark espciallly in light of last week-it was a bad call imo.

[Deana]

I just thought it was a weird situation because Martha told Clark to stay away from Lana.

How was the young man going to do that, if Martha is inviting her into their home?

[Charissa70]

That's what I felt. At least give him a heads up call to make sure EVERY thing was okay with her staying there. In real life, just think what could have been on the computer. In Clark's life-fantasy stories about Lana, photoshopped nude pics of Lana, mapping out where Kryton was, bookmarking sites on krytonite and how to destroy it, etc. The writers are having Martha slipping, having a farm, being a state senator and doing God knows what with Lionel is making her forget all about Clark and his LITTLE secret.

[Davlok]

I dont think letting her stay was wrong, just using Clark's room was. Didn't Lois have a room somewhere?

[freefall]

^ True that.

[alienkinfolk]

Originally posted by Deana
I just thought it was a weird situation because Martha told Clark to stay away from Lana.

How was the young man going to do that, if Martha is inviting her into their home?

Thank you. She's the Senator she can arrange for Lana to stay in another secure place. And why as the Senator, would she want that kind of touble in her home. Isn't Martha under the eye of public scrutiny too.
And why didn't she call Clark right away to let him know that lana is staying for the night in his room!

[The Ship!]

MOre Inconsistencies: Isn't Martha the same mother who warned CK to stay away from Lana??

Great idea Senator, why not invite Lana in CK's room??? LOLOLO

THis show is soo STUPID!!!!!

[freefall]

It's just one of those plot devices we have on SV all the time. It's obvious they want to show Lana starting to piece everything together with regard to Clark, so of course they need to put her in Clark's room, so that she could find that big framed picture of her (our obligatory dose Clana angst :rolleyes: ) as well as that kryptonite-drained necklace.

[mariolegosu]

It's not like Ma Kent really had a choice. If I got a call from someone who needed a safe place to stay for the night because a crazy stalker was after them, well I would help out. It's not like she had Lana over for dinner. And Clark wasn't even there.

[BadToad]

Martha Kent is just blowing my mind this season. Who is this stupid, insensitive clod of a parent, and where did the cool Martha go?

She wants to put Lana up? OK, fine, then I'm assuming she's got her own room, right? And she does have some regard and respect for her son, right? Well, actually no, but lets say she does for arguements sake. Then how about calling him, and asking him if its OK the she puts Lana up in his room. His feelings on this don't matter at all?

It doesn't really matter if Clark was there, he was coming home eventually. Was she going to warn him before he found Lana sleeping in his bed?

I can't believe what they've done to Martha this season. I completely don't recognize this woman.

[myankskent]

I actually laughed when I saw Lana walk into Clark's room like she was going to stay there. Talk about a plot device to have her look around and find that necklace. You're telling me the Kent house doesn't have a guest room of any kind? Where the hell did Lois stay when she was living there? Perhaps Shelby currently occupies that room?

This is how the scene should've been written...

Lana: Mrs. Kent, are you sure it's ok that I stay in Clark's room?

Marth: Oh sure, he won't mind. All you did is sleep with his greatest enemy, I'm sure he wouldn't mind you sleeping in his bed.

[freefall]

Originally posted by myankskent
I actually laughed when I saw Lana walk into Clark's room like she was going to stay there. Talk about a plot device to have her look around and find that necklace.

Exactly what I thought. It's plot device pure and simple. I mean, let's say Martha did call up Clark and told him, sweetie Lana's coming over to stay, would you mind me putting her up in your room? And Clark would definitely go, wait mom I'll clear up/lock the drawers first. Which meant she won't find the necklace :\

[BadToad]

Even if its a plot contrivance, would it really kill them to just write a line to indicate that Martha considered her sons feelings for one freaking second? All she has to do is say "I called Clark, and this is OK with him". My God, how hard is that? Instead, Martha just comes off as some gargoyle of a mother lately.

[Son of Kal-El20]

I'm not really liking Martha this season. She's being a terrible mother. And I mean terrible. Redk Clark's right. She's more Luthor than Kent now.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by BadToad
Even if its a plot contrivance, would it really kill them to just write a line to indicate that Martha considered her sons feelings for one freaking second? All she has to do is say "I called Clark, and this is OK with him". My God, how hard is that? Instead, Martha just comes off as some gargoyle of a mother lately.

:rotfl: You're really fired up about Martha these days. I do agree with you. That whole scene didn't make much sense to me.

[freefall]

Well, you got a point there. I also agree that scene doesn't make sense at all. But since this is Smallville we're watching, I highly doubt plot devices would have much thought put into it, and not especially like having a line to show that Martha had indeed called up her son and he's okay with it. Yeah, I think it would kill the writers to include something like that, as you put it :\

If you ask me, Jonathan giving him the cold shoulder and Martha reading to him the riot act in Unsafe was much, much worse. When they, of all people, should know what happened in that episode is NONE of his fault at all.

[BadToad]

I absolutely loathe her lately M I guess I just feel like Martha should be a source of comfort and support to Clark. She's the only family he has left, and vice versa. I'm not saying she has to coddle him, but Good God, she doesn't have to stomp on his feelings and act like she doesn't give a hoot. I'm not sure I'll ever shake that visual of Martha sitting at Lex and Lana's engagement party. And now this week? ARGGGHHH!!!

[myankskent]

I think TPTB have really made Martha a useless character these days. She really doesn't add anything to the plot since that Senator position is not part of the show and her relationship with Clark has just gone downhill fast. There were two good Clark/Martha moments this season, one at the end of Zod and the other at the end of Fallout. Everything else has been horrendous. They've made her basically like Lana where she is being corrupted by the Luthors to an extent. Part of what made Smallville great was the Jonathan/Martha/Clark stuff of the earlier seasons and now that Jonathan is dead, TPTB seem to be just destroying that whole parent/child dynamic and the show really lacks that these days.

[krpto]

I don't think clark would mind coming home and finding an a gorgous women in his bed I know I won't. besides she was scared I think any guy would let a scared woman they know have thier bed and sleep in the hall to keep them safe if it meant they would be less scared then again I also beleave Chivalry isn't dead.

[freefall]

Originally posted by myankskent
Part of what made Smallville great was the Jonathan/Martha/Clark stuff of the earlier seasons and now that Jonathan is dead, TPTB seem to be just destroying that whole parent/child dynamic and the show really lacks that these days.

Again, I agree wholeheartedly. In fact I think the Kents' dynamic and their close-knit relationships are actually one of of the greatest elements of the Superman mythos itself, not just for Smallville. I remember one of the reasons why I love LnC so much is because I enjoy watching Clark/Jonathan/Martha and Martha/Jonathan.

[quietone]

Maybe a Zoner is inhabiting Martha? That's the only explanation I can give for her bizarre behavior.

[JonStewart4President]

Just last episode Martha gave the stunningly good advice to Clark to "just leave Lana alone." A sentiment which makes the angels weep with joy, because it's so true.

Then this week she has Lana stay over, okay it's to protect Lana's life, so in a stretch I can sort of see that. Martha has known Lana since she was a little girl, been friends (to a degree) with her. With a biiiiiigg stretch, maybe. But in Clark's room? C'mon! That's just stupid. And by stupid I mean by the writers who again, can't keep characterizations straight from one week to the next.

In that I agree they've made Martha like Lana this season in that respect and that totally sucks because before this season Martha's character has remained true to what was established of her. And what she was, was a good, strong, warm person and a good mother. Like in Arrival, the strength of a mother's love for her child.

Now? Martha is just another plot device. What a waste. Stupid writers. *kicks dirt on them*

[Plbrock1s]

I'll have to disagree here. She was just helping out, no need to question who she was thinking about at a time when a stalker was trying to kill Lana. I assume Lois had her own room, but the thought didn't even cross my mind while I was watching this scene. It's just not that important. Also, I don't think they've changed Martha's character at all, it's just she isn't on screen as much.

[freefall]

Originally posted by JonStewart4President
Now? Martha is just another plot device. What a waste. Stupid writers. *kicks dirt on them*

I echo your sentiments about the writers *sighs*

This Martha Kent is lightyears apart from that woman we saw at the end of Vengeance. Solitude I think it's the last time we got to see how much Martha loves her son and vice versa.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Two words: Bad Writing.

[Krypton935]

Yeah I don't know what Martha is doing this season. But that was wrong to let Lana stay in his room with out even asking him.

[Scribe]

I kind of think Clark would be upset if Martha didn't let her stay. Furthermore, Martha knows that Clark wouldn't mind the inconvenience if Lana was in danger. As for leaving Lana in Clark's room, I think she honestly did not believe Lana would be capable of that kind of deceit. I mean even Chloe was taken by surprise.

[azi]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Two words: Bad Writing. Yup!

[wolverine316]

What happened to the sweet caring Martha Kent that we all know and love? When did she become this cold hearted witch?

[ElVibo]

Originally posted by Plbrock1s
I'll have to disagree here. She was just helping out, no need to question who she was thinking about at a time when a stalker was trying to kill Lana. I assume Lois had her own room, but the thought didn't even cross my mind while I was watching this scene. It's just not that important. Also, I don't think they've changed Martha's character at all, it's just she isn't on screen as much.

Totally agree dude, she wasn't a witch. Anyway Clark would have liked it anyway that Lana would have been over for him to protect her, although she had an alternative motive for being there.

[Charissa70]

But even if we get past the clark would agree on letting lana staying for protection-which I am sure he would if he was asked, he should have been asked. AND-Martha does not know what is in Clark's room. I know it is a plot device-BUT-your son is an alien-I don't care if you don't think this person is sneaky-Clark could have left something in plain sight that would have made her suspicious. One call. Lana also had security guards with her clearing the place-God knows what one could have found if he wasn't so busy stalking her.-Martha is just being written dumb lately, Forecast-Martha, tired from holding down the senate job and kind of working the farm, is the one that slips to Lana that Clark is an alien. Martha has become an extra on the show which is unfortunate.

[TheSupaMan]

I was so pissed at Martha this episode. I'm not "He wouldn't mind?" Are you serious? You're inviting her into his room. Do you realize what he might have in there? Jeez.

[BadToad]

Its not even about whether Clark would mind. We know he'd always want to protect Lana. Its about the fact that Martha should ASK her son. She should show him enough respect to at least give him the heads up. Clark should be Martha's #1 priority always, not Lana freaking Lang. And really, if she feels its her sworn duty to protect Lana from the paparazzi...and remember folks, thats what Lana told her...then Martha can park Lana's butt in her own bedroom, right?

And since this comes one week after Martha's complete and utter thoughtlessness at going to that engagement party, its just compounding the hatchet job they continue to do on Martha Kent. IMO

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Martha is becoming brain dead, did she just say "leave her alone" and then she brings her into his "backyard" ???

I guess that, since she went to the wedding-to-be party, we can expect more of the same disregard for her sons feelings?

[nathanjamesk1]

My thought on this was that Clark probally doesn't have anything in his *room* to indicate anything, anything that shows who he is is probally in the loft, or well hiden. but his room, if he were the smart kid he's supposed to be considering the past with Linoel and goons trying to figure out what clark secret is.

my opinion, clarks room is clean, if he has anything at the home, its in the loft, or very very well hidden

[greatercalling]

is it me or does smallville say one thing one episode and do the opposite the next episode?

[whiteflag]

Originally posted by BadToad
Its not even about whether Clark would mind. We know he'd always want to protect Lana. Its about the fact that Martha should ASK her son. She should show him enough respect to at least give him the heads up. Clark should be Martha's #1 priority always, not Lana freaking Lang. And really, if she feels its her sworn duty to protect Lana from the paparazzi...and remember folks, thats what Lana told her...then Martha can park Lana's butt in her own bedroom, right?

And since this comes one week after Martha's complete and utter thoughtlessness at going to that engagement party, its just compounding the hatchet job they continue to do on Martha Kent. IMO

Exactly!

This is not the Martha I used to know and love. "Cold hearted witch", as Wolverine316 put it, is a good description of her now.

[TheSupaMan]

I don't think Martha can survive without Jonathan. At least there was one person who had some sense in this family.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I really don't know what the writers are thinking in regards to Martha's character

[Charissa70]

No, its like the writers are totally lost without Jonathan with regards to Martha. like they were ying/yang Which is a shame. Martha does not have to be written like this. BUT-Smallville has become a couples show. And a younger show, A LOT less older adults, so Martha has become a caricature. It is a total shame. I used to think that Martha and Clark had a great mother/son relationship-above anything/anyone else. Not anymore. It is like when Jonathan died, Clark lost everyone. Clark has no one who will put him first. I am kind of wishing the future would be here and he would go apologize to Lois (not that she remembers) and get going with her. Lois' character probably wouldn't go to the wedding if she was closer to Clark and thought about it-unlike Martha.

[TheoristMaximus]

Lana needs something blue for her wedding right?

Maybe Martha will give her Clark's baby blankets, nice blue hue on some of em, and we all know he ain't gonna do **** with em..

[Somnium]

Honestly I don't think she has done nothing wrong THIS EPISODE, what you want her to do? tell Lana she can't stay? I'm sure she knew Clark would agree anyway.

However, the thing she have with Lionel and the wedding party was WRONG, they really ruined her character in those acts.

[Jaded Wolf]

Originally posted by seacrystal
I think he did. Episodes like Gone, Lucy, Commencement etc clearly showed he gave up his room for Lois. Most probably the Kent home only has two bedrooms.

I'll have to check my DVDs but you're probably right. I think that was the year I was in Iraq and training and I didn't get to see all of that season.

[Son of Kal-El20]

^Because it's polite to ask before you let someone into your domain of privacy. I swear, I don't get these people in wanting to invade Clark's privacy. Isn't he like everyone else entitled to some privacy. Sure he's an alien, but he some rights to you know. The women on this show act as if he has no right to have any privacy. Sheez.

[Cool_Breeze]

Martha seemed so much smarter at the beginning of the show

[TheSupaMan]

Originally posted by Somnium
Honestly I don't think she has done nothing wrong THIS EPISODE, what you want her to do? tell Lana she can't stay? I'm sure she knew Clark would agree anyway.

However, the thing she have with Lionel and the wedding party was WRONG, they really ruined her character in those acts.


......

Are you implying that Clark would've actually agreed to allow Lana to stay in his room? Really though.

And its not only about that. Its also for the fact that her character has became flip-floppy. One episode she's telling Clark to leave her alone, and the next she's saying "Well, let's let Lana stay in his room" How is he supposed to leave her alone when she's in his bed?

[fitmis]

Martha, while Jonathan was alive, seemed to have many of her "everyday human needs" met by a loving husband and partner, and a young son who still really needed her "doteing" and "attention".

Now that Jonathan has died (it has been almost a year hasn't it?), Martha is now a State Senator and Clark is an adult now, Martha naturally has been reaching out to others for companionship in her life....maybe to the wrong people....maybe she has become a little selfish...but she just lost a husband within a year and is probably needy.....

I know Clark was upset about her attending Lana's engagement party. But you have to now remember Martha, I believe, has an emotional (and who knows, maybe physical) relationship with Lionel Luther. She is now caught in the middle between a man she cares about and her son's old girlfriend.

[ginnyfan]

Clark won't die if Lana sleeps there one night. Lana might die if her stalker finds her. I'm gonna let Martha off the hook for putting Lana's life above Clark's feelings. LOL!

[Dangerous George]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Two words: Bad Writing.

there you go. true story

[10-5-4-9]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Two words: Bad Writing.

Yeah.

[KryptonX81]

While it is a simple favor to allow her to stay there and im sure that he would have said yes, im also sure that he would have preffered if someone ask him first.

Its very rude to take without asking, even if you are 100% sure that the ansewr will be yes.

[Nightingale20]

I'm torn. On one hand, it is nice for her to help Lana during her situation, but at the same time not really good to have Clark's ex-girlfriend, fiancee of ex-friend and pregnant with his child to be in Clark's room. It was probably a plot device to have Lana snoop around Clark's room, but it came at the expense of ill regard to Clark's feelings sadly.

[RMF]

Originally posted by Somnium
Honestly I don't think she has done nothing wrong THIS EPISODE, what you want her to do? tell Lana she can't stay?
Yes.

Her first responsibility is to her son, not every stray that wants to cross her threshold. Martha should point out to Lana that Clark is going through hell over the Lexana relationship, and she really needs to stay away from him. Lana's not on the street, she's Lex's fiancee and has all the resources of Luthorcorp at her disposal if she wants to hide.

[TheSupaMan]

Originally posted by RMF
Yes.

Her first responsibility is to her son, not every stray that wants to cross her threshold. Martha should point out to Lana that Clark is going through hell over the Lexana relationship, and she really needs to stay away from him. Lana's not on the street, she's Lex's fiancee and has all the resources of Luthorcorp at her disposal if she wants to hide.

Not only that, but not put her IN YOUR SON'S ROOM! I mean, I know it was supposed to be a plot device, but really at least make Martha look a little concerned for her own son privacy. Did she actually expect Lana to just lie down on the bed and have a nice dream about marrying Lex? She can't be that gulible.

[Jetta]

I think there is a cumulative intelligence cap for the characters on this show. Since they want to show Lana getting proactive, and finally having some semblance of intelligence, they have to take it from someone else, so Martha is now going to the the resident idiot. She used to be such a great mom, not seeing that as much anymore.

[All about Clark]

From the standpoint of Martha refusing Lana and having her leave the farm, Clark would be upset with Martha if something happened to Lana because of it. So I don't think Martha did anything wrong, just protected someone Clark would protect.

[TheSupaMan]

Originally posted by Jetta
I think there is a cumulative intelligence cap for the characters on this show. Since they want to show Lana getting proactive, and finally having some semblance of intelligence, they have to take it from someone else, so Martha is now going to the the resident idiot. She used to be such a great mom, not seeing that as much anymore.

I hate to believe it, but I'm starting to believe that's the case. Damn budget.

[Welling_is_pretty]

I have to admit I was wondering what was going through Mama Kent's mind myself.
After telling Clark to stay away from lana she invites Lana into their home? Ok, that's just the Kent way, help out anyone in trouble. She didn't want Bo rolling over in his grave.

But to put her in Clark's room?! I know she probably thought her son would not be stupid enough to leave anything incriminating around but c'mon! This IS the BDA we're talking about. He DID leave something around.

I guess Martha either thinks Clark is smarter than he is or just doesn't know her son anymore.

Or maybe she wanted Lana to find out something so she (Lana) could scream "get away from me you alien freak!" and Clark could finally get over her?
:lol:

[loisnlana]

Forgive me if this has already been stated, I was far too lazy to go through all 5 pages.

Lana came to Martha because a somebody was after her trying to kill her and she needed to hide out. What was Martha going to do, "Well I'd love to help you Lana, but since your my son's ex, I'll just leave you at the killer's mercy."

[mtnmama236]

Did anyone notice that Martha was at the engagement party and Lionel wasn't? What's up with that?

I think that Martha was in a hard place--she couldn't very well turn Lana down, but putting her in Clark's room (I know it was a plot device, but still...) At my house, if my son weren't home and his ex needed a refuge---she'd get the couch! Besides the security people could all keep a better eye on here there.

At lease Martha didn't put her in the barn. But then again, Lana's already checked the barn out!

[Somnium]

Originally posted by RMF
Yes.

Her first responsibility is to her son, not every stray that wants to cross her threshold. Martha should point out to Lana that Clark is going through hell over the Lexana relationship, and she really needs to stay away from him. Lana's not on the street, she's Lex's fiancee and has all the resources of Luthorcorp at her disposal if she wants to hide.

Clark would probably be upset if she didn't let her stay. Anyway it's just rude, I mean there's a killer after her. About letting her in his room, there supposely no other room (remember that Loise slept in Clark's room as well).

[BadToad]

About letting her in his room, there supposely no other room (remember that Loise slept in Clark's room as well).

There is *her* room. I would've been OK if Martha had said "Here Lana, take my room, and I'll take Clark's". But just handing over her son's room, without even letting him know? Just ridiculous, IMO.

[freefall]

Originally posted by TheSupaMan
Did she actually expect Lana to just lie down on the bed and have a nice dream about marrying Lex? She can't be that gulible.

Well, this is Lana Lang we're talking about. Everyone is pretty much gullible and is trapped in her web. The future Superman himself, his evil egomaniac enemy Lex Luthor, Chloe Sullivan the superhacker, and all those boyfriends of hers and Jonathan Kent who ended up dead indirectly because of her. The latest added to the list are those two bodyguards. We definitely can't make an exception for Martha Kent :p

Right now, only Lois and Jimmy who are still safe from the Lana spell.

[All about Clark]

Martha is also aware the Clark let Lana sleep in that room before, so why would sleeping there a second time be a problem. Plus the fact that Clark would want Martha to help Lana if her life was in danger. Plus Lois has even slept in there.

[Plbrock1s]

I just think it's alot of overreaction. I mean, yes, she told Clark to stay away from her, but that really has no merit in this extreme case. For Martha to say, "hold on, let me ask Clark if you can stay", well thats just stupid and it'd be like she wasn't even thinking about Lana's safety. Just my opinion.

[Jetta]

^ How about Lana though, was she even thinking about Martha's safety? I mean forget about the snooping she did, what about her putting Clark's mom in danger by drawing this stalker's attention to the Kent house. Lana played a part (unknowingly) in the death of Clark's dad, and if the stalker killed Martha, then she would have played a part in that death too.

[Lonnietoons]

I looked at it as Martha putting Lana in Clark's bedroom because there wouldn't be any evidence there. Might seem weird that there wouldn't be, but hey, I figured that had to be it because otherwise it's just braindead.

And I'm pretty sick of Martha Kent now (getting close to bashing her all over the place now lol). I've never been a fan of her, but after Jonathan's death I can't stand her! She's this stone cold ***** and I get it, she's probably looking for someone else to fill the hole where Jonathan was, but with the man he hated... the man Clark is weary about - knowing he's not all evil anymore, but seeing their past - getting herself involved with him is just... I truly hate it. Perry I get, but then again his history with the Kents isn't really awful. He's no Luthor. Run away Perry, run away! lol

Ah anyway. I feel sorry for Clark these days. His mother's completely different and it really seems like Jonathan was the glue of the family...

[Raistlin]

Sometimes, Martha is just a moron.