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RedKalEL
02-01-2007, 08:15 PM
Geez jimmy be a man. that scene with him crying infront of chloe was pathetic

niki
02-01-2007, 08:17 PM
Ahh, I thought it was sweet, actually.
It shows he really cares for Chloe, but clearly thinks he's the Poor Girl's Clark for her. Or something like that.

When a guy cries in front of me, I think it's more sweet than pathetic, hehe.

Deana
02-01-2007, 08:18 PM
He loves the girl. Poooor Jimmy.

Honey45
02-01-2007, 08:21 PM
Crying because he has to give up the one girl he truly loves and obviously can't stand to have her look at another guy the way he wishes she would look at him?

Pfft.. what a baby!

Please.

RedKalEL
02-01-2007, 08:21 PM
yea it would be one thing if she broke up with him and he cried but he was breaking up with her what the hell

Nospam
02-01-2007, 08:29 PM
And women say they like sensitive men. Pffffffffff. Please. Look at Clark, he was a Neanderthal tonight and nothing short of being a complete *******. He was physically and emotionally abusive, yet all the ladies swoon over RedK!Clark. "He's so sexy and confident. Ooooooooo."

What a joke.

Honey45
02-01-2007, 08:31 PM
If you're referring to my post, I was being sarcastic.

And I don't think Clark was being physically violent to anyone besides Lex. Sure, he pulled Lana by the arm ... but it really didn't look like she tried to stop him in any way, shape or form. She didn't even yell "Lex, call security!" which they have plenty of.

Lostfan588
02-01-2007, 08:33 PM
I felt really bad for Jimmy, but the little guy should have seen it coming! He was the one who kept saying "ooooOOooo I know why he doesnt like me!'" He's madly in love with you!" "You spend all your time together!" .........he shoulda seen it coming, the Chlark is way too obvious! :lol: Anyways screw chimmy bring on the chlark! It should be interesting to see the chlarkimmy interaction in tresspass and freak!

Nospam
02-01-2007, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by HeddyH
If you're referring to my post, I was being sarcastic.

And I don't think Clark was being physically violent to anyone besides Lex. Sure, he pulled Lana by the arm ... but it really didn't look like she tried to stop him in any way, shape or form. She didn't even yell "Lex, call security!" which they have plenty of.

"Besides Lex." He never hits me "unless I do something wrong."

Honey45
02-01-2007, 08:34 PM
I don't know about you, but when someone has a gun to my face, I think I have every right to hit them.

Nospam
02-01-2007, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by HeddyH
I don't know about you, but when someone has a gun to my face, I think I have every right to hit them.

Now I was being sarcastic. :lol:

wolverine316
02-01-2007, 08:42 PM
Boy. Jimmy is a little beyootch isn't he? Why don't you run home and watch "Brokeback Mountain"?

KryptonX81
02-01-2007, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by HeddyH
If you're referring to my post, I was being sarcastic.

And I don't think Clark was being physically violent to anyone besides Lex. Sure, he pulled Lana by the arm ... but it really didn't look like she tried to stop him in any way, shape or form. She didn't even yell "Lex, call security!" which they have plenty of.

Judging by how easy it is for Clark to just wander into Lex's mansion when he feels like it, im not so sure about that. haha.

But seriously, Lana did not want to go with Clark in any way. she was trying to pull herself away from him the enitire time.

Nightingale20
02-01-2007, 09:18 PM
I felt really bad for Jimmy but no I don't think there was anything wrong with him crying. Nothing wrong with having a sensitive side.

meteor
02-01-2007, 09:21 PM
Rough go for Jimboy..better he get out of that scene now.

Obviously Chloe still has Clark issues...run Jimmy run far away from that while you still can, or at least until Chloe gets it out of her system once and for all (if that's even possible).

D.M.A.
02-01-2007, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
I felt really bad for Jimmy, but the little guy should have seen it coming! He was the one who kept saying "ooooOOooo I know why he doesnt like me!'" He's madly in love with you!" "You spend all your time together!" .........he shoulda seen it coming, the Chlark is way too obvious! :lol: Anyways screw chimmy bring on the chlark! It should be interesting to see the chlarkimmy interaction in tresspass and freak!
I agree tho it was sad he should have saw it comin,but I'll jus blame it on the holidayz and his insecurities that she really wanted to be wit clark.Tonight tho everythin chloe did wit him seem force she usually doesn't kiss him in public yet she does tonight,she gets mad at him for insultin clark etc...It was 2 obvious he wants her to be in luv wit him and not clark and when she couldn't admit it he cracked.I dont mind him cryin I jus dont feel 2 sorry for him forcin her to not lie to him about bein in luv.I think she will say it next week tho to try to convince him and her she does,but she is in denial and even he saw it tonight.He's been thinkin clark was the only 1 to have sumthin goin on,now he see that chloe feels sumthin back so he tried to cut her off so she can quit usin him as an excuse.I think tho that she will try again next week to convince him and it'll come off jus as obvious as tonight that she's forcin it and he'll let go.But he'll understand he cant force her to luv him,chlimmy jus had bad timin(Zod shows this).The cryin wasn't an issue it was him tryin to force chloe to choose between him and clark :lol:

Honey45
02-01-2007, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by KryptonX81
Judging by how easy it is for Clark to just wander into Lex's mansion when he feels like it, im not so sure about that. haha.

But seriously, Lana did not want to go with Clark in any way. she was trying to pull herself away from him the enitire time.

It didn't look like she was trying to get away. Yeah she tugged her arm on his hand, but she didn't like fall to the floor so he would have to drag her or anything like that.

And she doesn't know how Clark got in. If she really wanted away from him, she could have yelled for someone.

manofsteele05
02-01-2007, 09:33 PM
JIMMY needs to SERIOUSLY GROW A PAIR... he soooo GOT OWNED this whole epp, he is basically a MALE version of LANA. I think I hated him the most in this epp than any other... PLEASE write him off in a few more epps,,, he has no RELEVANT BIZ there anyway

DorkMatter
02-01-2007, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
And women say they like sensitive men. Pffffffffff. Please. Look at Clark, he was a Neanderthal tonight and nothing short of being a complete *******. He was physically and emotionally abusive, yet all the ladies swoon over RedK!Clark. "He's so sexy and confident. Ooooooooo."

What a joke.

It's sad, but generally true, from what I've seen. Many "sensitive" men then become quite bitter by the time women get tired of the "confident" men. Just a general observation.

meteor
02-01-2007, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by DorkMatter
It's sad, but generally true, from what I've seen. Many "sensitive" men then become quite bitter by the time women get tired of the "confident" men. Just a general observation.

TRUE...but there's a happy medium. you can still be confident and a good guy without being an arrogant p*ick.

newfan
02-01-2007, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Nospam
And women say they like sensitive men. Pffffffffff. Please. Look at Clark, he was a Neanderthal tonight and nothing short of being a complete *******. He was physically and emotionally abusive, yet all the ladies swoon over RedK!Clark. "He's so sexy and confident. Ooooooooo."

What a joke.

Ya we dont like sensitive men :lol:...sorry, I mean I dont like sensitive men :lol: Give me Red K Clark any day :lol: I love it when he is an ******* :D Sexy!

niki
02-01-2007, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by newfan
Ya we dont like sensitive men :lol:...sorry, I mean I dont like sensitive men :lol: Give me Red K Clark any day :lol: I love it when he is an ******* :D Sexy!

I like sensitive men!
LOL. Looks like I'm the only one. :(

Ahh wells, my man's got a decent dosage of confidence but he's sensitive too. Plus he's got muscles like Clark. Hehehee.

Anyhoos! *coughs*
I think Lana might have been resisting at first to Clark's grip just for show, but they had quite the trip from Lex's mansion to Clark's little loft and she could have easily had said, "I'm going back to the mansion" but she held tight, so I think she was more intrigued with what Clark was about to say.

D.M.A.
02-01-2007, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by manofsteele05
JIMMY needs to SERIOUSLY GROW A PAIR... he soooo GOT OWNED this whole epp, he is basically a MALE version of LANA. I think I hated him the most in this epp than any other... PLEASE write him off in a few more epps,,, he has no RELEVANT BIZ there anyway
Well lucky for u he's gone in 2 more epi's :D ,but I didn't mind the cryin I jus got upset wit him tryin to force the girl to choose.She can't shut off her feelings she's had for 7 yrs,if she's in luv wit clark yet tryin to move on why stop her.U have her,be happy,yes she doesn't luv u now like u luv her but dont cut off the chance to make her fall for u.I thought his bickerin/pushin to get her away from clark was 2 much not the cryin,I can live wit him bein hurt to the point of cryin cause she wouldn't say I luv u.But does he really want to force her to lie about luvin him?I feel bad for him yes but in a way I dont,so luckily they try to work it out next week and then both(Well mainly jimmy)realize that it jus wont work and they make a clean break without the tears.He'll prob understand more next week but this week he jus cracked,now he knows how she feels and will know if she tries to lie next week.So the breakup will be clean wit his understandin(Except he doesn't understand why chloe wont tell clark,so I see him pushin her 2)and he'll leave after freak on good terms wit both chloe/clark I bet.So no worries :D

DorkMatter
02-01-2007, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by meteor
TRUE...but there's a happy medium. you can still be confident and a good guy without being an arrogant p*ick.

Yes, absolutely, but I was talking about good guys who naturally lack confidence for some reason. Unfortunately, repeatedly being rejected does not help build their confidence so that they can "grow a pair"--that's a pretty vicious cycle there. Maybe this is just natural selection at work, although many of them probably would have made good husbands and fathers had they been given a chance, and with additional maturation. I'm just saying that I don't blame them for becoming bitter, which is what seems to happen all too often. Relating this back to Smallville, it seems that Jimmy has taken his first step down that road.

meteor
02-01-2007, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by DorkMatter
Yes, absolutely, but I was talking about good guys who naturally lack confidence for some reason. Unfortunately, repeatedly being rejected does not help build their confidence so that they can "grow a pair"--that's a pretty vicious cycle there. Maybe this is just natural selection at work, although many of them probably would have made good husbands and fathers had they been given a chance, and with additional maturation. I'm just saying that I don't blame them for becoming bitter, which is what seems to happen all too often.

yes i agree with that. in fact i think i play hockey with a couple of them every weekend :lol:

Heilige
02-01-2007, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by HeddyH
It didn't look like she was trying to get away. Yeah she tugged her arm on his hand, but she didn't like fall to the floor so he would have to drag her or anything like that.

And she doesn't know how Clark got in. If she really wanted away from him, she could have yelled for someone.


She was resisting. She did not want to be with Clark at all. Clark also forced himself on her. She did not want to kiss him. You could see her resisting and she basically had tears running down right before Clark kissed her.

niki
02-01-2007, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Heilige
She was resisting. She did not want to be with Clark at all. Clark also forced himself on her. She did not want to kiss him. You could see her resisting and she basically had tears running down right before Clark kissed her.

Then how come some users on another thread claimed that she slipped some tongue into the kiss? Hehe.

She probably was resisting at first, but I think she gave in, and you could tell she was guilty when Lex mentioned it toward the end of the episode. She could have responded with, "I forced him off of me!" or something, but she just stood there with a guilty look on her face, so I believe she gave into that kiss willingly.

kiariclois
02-01-2007, 10:10 PM
I don't think it's pathetic at all... It was sweet and really shows us that he really does care for her and maybe scared of losing her... and from Al's interview, Jimmy really does gave his heart to Chloe... and like niki, I happen to love sensitive guy too... It's rare you know...

LuthorRequiem2
02-01-2007, 10:12 PM
" I felt really bad for Jimmy but no I don't think there was anything wrong with him crying. Nothing wrong with having a sensitive side."

EXACTLY! Actually, according to recent studies, one of the main reasons why men die earlier than women often times is because they hold back their tears-they are too afraid to show their emotions. That repression leads to people being unhealthy, both emotionally and eventually it can lead to physical problems, and this leads to men dying at a younger age than women. So, it's good Jimmy's not afraid to show his emotions, and he doesn't think it makes him look "unmanly". Go, Jimmy!

kiariclois
02-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by LuthorRequiem2
" I felt really bad for Jimmy but no I don't think there was anything wrong with him crying. Nothing wrong with having a sensitive side."

EXACTLY! Actually, according to recent studies, one of the main reasons why men die earlier than women often times is because they hold back their tears-they are too afraid to show their emotions. That repression leads to people being unhealthy, both emotionally and eventually it can lead to physical problems, and this leads to men dying at a younger age than women. So, it's good Jimmy's not afraid to show his emotions, and he doesn't think it makes him look "unmanly". Go, Jimmy!

Really? thanks for the info... That's interesting...

Long Live JIMMY OLSEN!!!

cloisinmyheart
02-01-2007, 10:49 PM
im pretty sure we all like sensitive men because it shows that theyre mature enough to open up to us

lana&Clark4ever
02-01-2007, 10:52 PM
Jimmy DEEAN Sausage be a mAAAN!

InLove_with_Chloe
02-02-2007, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by RedKalEL
Geez jimmy be a man. that scene with him crying infront of chloe was pathetic
I loved it.
Finally a man who cares about Chloe.
Go, Jimmy!!!

elway
02-02-2007, 02:45 AM
It was a pathetic scene for Jim, but his point behind it is very solid. I'd be pissed to but to start crying at work and in front of Chloe. C'mon man up Jim...

freefall
02-02-2007, 03:32 AM
Looks like Jimmy has been bottling up his feelings and emotions too. I don't blame him for breaking down in front of Chloe like that. He'd been practically blown off for Clark most of the time.

Of course, she's not at fault here but it just goes to show that she needs to tell Clark that while they're best friends, he has to learn on how to do things by himself and not to run to her every time he needs help or look something up, and inevitably put Chloe in a difficult position. Whether it's in her relationship with someone, or regarding her social life and personal time in general.

smallvilleobsessor17
02-02-2007, 05:31 AM
Poor Jimmy!

MidgardDragon
02-02-2007, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by RedKalEL
Geez jimmy be a man. that scene with him crying infront of chloe was pathetic

Crying does not make one unmanly. That type of attitude will only take us back to caveman days. Jimmy was hurt and showed his emotions, and that's exactly the Jimmy we all know and love.

Thinking crying is unmanly just makes a man less of a man in my eyes.

InLove_with_Chloe
02-02-2007, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Thinking crying is unmanly just makes a man less of a man in my eyes.
...and therefore unmanly. I agree.

MidgardDragon
02-02-2007, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
...and therefore unmanly. I agree.

Indeed.

BizzaroJerry
02-02-2007, 06:06 AM
Ah to quote Dirty Harry (a real real man),

“A man got to know his limitations.”

In this case Jimmy knew from the moment he met Clark there was NO contest!

So far Chloe has used him TWICE. Once as a summer fling and now as something to keep her (or us) distracted from her pining for Clark.

The only way smallville can become a tragedy is not lex becoming evil, it’s only a tragedy if,

Chloe after all these years and sacrifices she’s made never ever get to be more than friends with Clark.

BY THE GODS DO NOT LET IT BE SO!

Let her at least boff him ONCE so Chloe and we can get it out of our systems…

Lone Soul
02-02-2007, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by wolverine316
Boy. Jimmy is a little beyootch isn't he? Why don't you run home and watch "Brokeback Mountain"?

Haha now that was very terrible....but I still laughed :lol:


Seriously though I don't see anything with a guy who shows emotion..though I know I don't tend to cry in front of people. If I was in the same position he was with my girlfriend..I may come pretty close to it. Then again he was jumping to conclusions way too quickly.

Didn't help when Chloe hesitated and used a cheesy "Your my guy" line.

meteor_phreak
02-02-2007, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by KryptonX81
Judging by how easy it is for Clark to just wander into Lex's mansion when he feels like it, im not so sure about that. haha.

But seriously, Lana did not want to go with Clark in any way. she was trying to pull herself away from him the enitire time. i didn't think it was bad. i felt sooooo bad for him and for chloe. it was yet ANOTHER time when some relationship on the show goes south because one person couldn't understand and the other couldn't explain.

Kyogre
02-02-2007, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by lana&Clark4ever
Jimmy DEEAN Sausage be a mAAAN!

:lol:

Netwolf
02-02-2007, 07:08 AM
Nothing wrong with a man crying.

Christ if I had a woman as captivating as Chloe as my girl and I knew she wasn't 100% mine I would be a wreck! And then when the break up happens?! Crapola I would become KING EMO for sure..heh heh heh probably cry the rest of my life and cut myself with chain saws!

:lol:

Peat Moss
02-02-2007, 07:22 AM
come on, you gotta love the infuriator

Netwolf
02-02-2007, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by Peat Moss
come on, you gotta love the infuriator


Love the name! Peat Moss...LOL!

I do miss ol' Pete that is for sure. But then again I'm OSS (Old School Smallville) just finished watching season 3 on DVD what an amazing season.

love_sv
02-02-2007, 07:50 AM
It was a sad break-up scene, yes poor Jimmy but we could also say poor Chloe as well. Clark just managed to break Chloe and Jimmy up yet is not getting with her but going after Lana again. What is up with that? I still think Chloe/Jimmy should never have happened, and if it hadn't, we wouldn't have had this sad scene.

jaime,oburg
02-02-2007, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by Nospam
And women say they like sensitive men. Pffffffffff. Please. Look at Clark, he was a Neanderthal tonight and nothing short of being a complete *******. He was physically and emotionally abusive, yet all the ladies swoon over RedK!Clark. "He's so sexy and confident. Ooooooooo."

What a joke.

Well, the truth is Nospam I got to admit that I find myself being guilty of falling into the "he's so sexy and confident" swoony women category when it comes to RedK Clark. With that said, I also find myself saying "what an a$$hole you are Red K Clark." Maybe I just find myself so entertained by the Red K episodes to come to my senses.

Now to further contradict myself...................................


Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Crying does not make one unmanly. That type of attitude will only take us back to caveman days. Jimmy was hurt and showed his emotions, and that's exactly the Jimmy we all know and love.

Thinking crying is unmanly just makes a man less of a man in my eyes.

Thank You MD. Well said.

The only other thing I can say about the issue is this. I am also a Nip/Tuck fan. All my girlfriends and I have the Christian/ Shaun debate. Who would you prefer to be with. Now I am probally in the minority when I say Shaun. Reason. Christian = Red K Clark and Shaun reminds me of the shy farmboy who doesn't always have the same confidence, but would make a better father and husband. So my choice would be Shaun over Christian because he would be the better choice for my mister right. Christian will always be my choice for mister right now.

I thought AA preformance in that scene was great. I had no problem with the emotion he showed. He loves Chloe and has no problem with expressing his emotions. Clark could learn a thing or two.

milton fine
02-02-2007, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by RedKalEL
Geez jimmy be a man. that scene with him crying infront of chloe was pathetic dude guys cry its been proven and its the 21 century no more of that stupid men shouldnt cry crap thats, why we have things like school shootings and why men are seen as emotionless *******s its becuse most men were brought up not to cry and to suck it up. anyway the worlds change dude get over it, i think jimmy just showed what he was feeling inside which we all feel once in a while even though some guys wont admite it.

shirkie
02-02-2007, 12:28 PM
I think men who don't cry aren't secure in their emotions. The whole stone-faced thing is sooooooo out-of-date and out-of-touch with reality. Men hurt just as much as women, but they're expected to put up this big "Nothing-can-hurt-me" front.

Guys who don't cry are too weak to express themselves. And the guys who make fun of the guys who do cry... Well, I guess I just feel sorry for them.
shirkie

michaelkent
02-02-2007, 01:09 PM
Unfortunately, Jimmy is his own worst enemy right now. He is responsible for the breakup between Chloe and himself. IMO the fault does not at all lie with Chloe and/or Clark, but Jimmy's immature behavior. Chloe has given him plenty of reasons to see that she is interested in him (including saving his life), but he seems to have an obsessive compulsive attitude that she must do everything he wants or he's going to walk out on her. For instance, earlier in the season he got bent out of shape because Chloe went into the woods with Clark to gather info on zoners. He has no right to insist that she can only be out with him. I would warn Chloe as I would warn any young woman, beware of a man who is overly possessive. Unless he outgrows that behavior, he may very well end up treating you like a possession instead of a person.

I believe that Jimmy really cares about Chloe, and she has feelings for him as well. Whether they are truly in love with each other, has not yet been decided. My advice to Jimmy the Geek would be to put down your whip topping spray can, stop insisting that she comply with your requests about who she sees (unless it is someone who is trying to hurt her), get therapy for your paranoia about Clark, and concentrate on showing Chloe how much you care for her. Stop spending your energy trying to fit her into your mold of who she is to be, and love what is already there.

I submit if he is unwilling to take some of those steps, then he is too immature for Chloe. She deserves better treatment than that.

By the way, Jimmy crying in public in no way detracts from his manhood. The ridiculous belief that real men don't cry was around decades ago when I was young. It was mindless then and mindless now.

DorkMatter
02-02-2007, 01:22 PM
At least Jimmy had the guts to do the right thing from his point of view, no matter how much the truth hurts. He is more of a man than Clark, even if he's a bit of a "lightweight" in other ways. I don't see a problem with his crying in this case, and I'm one of those guys who for some reason rarely ever cries (not so much a result of insecurity as it is that I'm much more of a thinker than a feeler).

That said, I had hoped that Jimmy would not have allowed himself to get in so deep to begin with, but that's teen soap opera for you.


Originally posted by michaelkent
Unfortunately, Jimmy is his own worst enemy right now. He is responsible for the breakup between Chloe and himself. IMO the fault does not at all lie with Chloe and/or Clark, but Jimmy's immature behavior. Chloe has given him plenty of reasons to see that she is interested in him (including saving his life), but he seems to have an obsessive compulsive attitude that she must do everything he wants or he's going to walk out on her.

That definitely seems like a different form of insecurity and immaturity. He did the right thing for them both by breaking up, in my opinion, whatever his intentions.


Originally posted by michaelkent
By the way, Jimmy crying in public in no way detracts from his manhood. The ridiculous belief that real men don't cry was around decades ago when I was young. It was mindless then and mindless now.

The innate capacity both to feel emotional pain and to cry is equal between the sexes, as far as I've ever been able to discern. With the bias some people have for "sensitive" men and "strong" women being portrayed in the media, it will be interesting to see whether the roles will ever be switched regarding which gender gets to display their emotions more without shame. If that happens, I will laugh until I...well, cry. ;)

Ania
02-02-2007, 01:50 PM
He was just stupid. And the crying was pathetic. And I do feel bad about him and Chloe, they were sweet and happy couple and the break-up was ... dumb.

Honey45
02-02-2007, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Heilige
She was resisting. She did not want to be with Clark at all. Clark also forced himself on her. She did not want to kiss him. You could see her resisting and she basically had tears running down right before Clark kissed her.

It didn't look like she was resisting when she was frenching him.

shirkie
02-02-2007, 04:00 PM
Stay on topic, this thread is about Chloe and Jimmy.
shirkie

RedPhoenix23
02-02-2007, 04:43 PM
Aww! I thought Jimmy was clearly THE MAN of this episode. What Clark did was wrong and you know damn well if anyone but Clark behaved that way Chloe would have admitted so. Chloe's character has been reduced to being nothing more then Clark Kent's lapdog and it's a damn shame. Poor Jimmy! He also didn't cry because they broke up he cried because he just realized his worse dream come to life: If Chloe had the choice, she's rather be with Clark then him. After such a realization, I don't see how he could have any other choice but to break up with her.

freefall
02-02-2007, 04:50 PM
^ I agree. No blame upon Jimmy at all.

meteor
02-02-2007, 05:05 PM
Jimmy didn't wanna be with a girl who loves someone else more than she loves him. Good on Jimmy. i did find it a bit embarassing when he started crying, but not because i think crying means you are weak or not a man or whatever because i don't think that. in that particular situation though, where Jimmy is being outdone by somebody else in Chloe's mind, i would have preferred to see him keep his composure.

smallvilleobsessor17
02-02-2007, 05:06 PM
Come on! All you fools who think that Jimmy shouldn't have cried, give the boy a break! He's only had to compete with a SLIGHTLY better looking guy twice his size. Chloe has been pining away for Clark the entire time, while Jimmy has to hide away his feelings and attempt to swallow all he sees. Chloe has been really mean to Jimmy. He doesn't deserve to be second to some guy that Chloe will never get.

Luthor5339
02-02-2007, 07:47 PM
Jimmy cried? So what. Guys cry- that's life. That's normal now a' days.

We cry alot less than women, I think, but we still cry... my favorite moment from FOUR BROTHERS is the way Mark Wahlburg's character grieves his "mother's" death (forgot her name)... breaking down into tears, but having to hold it back to be in private. I'm kind of like that and can relate.

I don't know what I would do if put in Jimmy's situation.

But, all guys cry- as per the "Four Brothers" example- ALL guys cry and grieve, even the most macho of guys.

Bumperjeep
02-02-2007, 07:57 PM
I dont' really care about the fact that he was crying. It just showed that he cared for her. I feel bad for both of them. Chloe is paying every price there is to pay to protect Clark. Shes given up so much to protect him. This is why Chloe is my favorite character in Smallville. She's the most loyal. She's so loyal to Clark, that she will even hurt herself to help him. Thats why I think Jimmy should still stay with Chloe, hes just being jealous because he doesn't understand.

RedPhoenix23
02-02-2007, 08:02 PM
No. Jimmy broke up with Chloe because he didn't want to be her second choice. If Chloe had the choice, she'd rather be with Clark and that's the source of Jimmy's hurt and why he ended it with her. He doesn't deserve to be her stand in while she waits for Clark to suddenly decide that he loves her.

ginnyfan
02-02-2007, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by RedKalEL
Geez jimmy be a man. that scene with him crying infront of chloe was pathetic

I thought it was touching. Jimmy's man enough to be open with his feelings.


Originally posted by Bumperjeep
I dont' really care about the fact that he was crying. It just showed that he cared for her. I feel bad for both of them. Chloe is paying every price there is to pay to protect Clark. Shes given up so much to protect him. This is why Chloe is my favorite character in Smallville. She's the most loyal. She's so loyal to Clark, that she will even hurt herself to help him. Thats why I think Jimmy should still stay with Chloe, hes just being jealous because he doesn't understand.

I don't agree about her being the most loyal character but... great post.

meteor
02-02-2007, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Bumperjeep
I dont' really care about the fact that he was crying. It just showed that he cared for her. I feel bad for both of them. Chloe is paying every price there is to pay to protect Clark. Shes given up so much to protect him. This is why Chloe is my favorite character in Smallville. She's the most loyal. She's so loyal to Clark, that she will even hurt herself to help him. Thats why I think Jimmy should still stay with Chloe, hes just being jealous because he doesn't understand.

Loyalty to Clark isn't hurting her...she is hurting herself. Her refusal to move on from the fact that Clark is not in love with her is what caused her relationship with Jimmy to hit the skids and will do the same with any future relationship she has as long as she continues to approach them as consolation prizes. Now maybe she just isn't that serious about Jimmy which is fair enough, but i don't see anything noble about being hung up on a guy for 6 years. that's her fault and nobody else's.

having said that she IS very loyal to Clark, his most trusted friend and a very admirable character on the show worthy of much respect. however, it's ironic she told Clark that Lana is his weakness, cause in that department (love and relationships), Clark is hers.

AndiGirl
02-02-2007, 08:52 PM
Exactly! I don't think Clark is ruining her relationship...I mean, in a sense he is, but not intentionally. Of course he was never crazy about them being together....but he never interviened. When Clark asked Chloe for favors she came running....and I guess she didn't really stop to think how it would affect her new relationship. She can't have the same relationship with Clark when she has a boyfriend...it shouldn't change drastically of course, he's her best friend.....but leaving it the same was asking for disaster. They've always had this slight sexual tension between them, and I was pretty surprised to see that didn't change at all when she had Jimmy. She couldn't hide it, i suppose. I guess the point of all of that is....Clark shouldn't be getting all of the blame, Chloe played her part. I have a lot of respect for Jimmy, Just like Chloe doesn't want to play second best to Lana....he doesn't want to play second best to Clark. I actually would have expected better from Chloe...i know she probably didn't do it on purpose, but she should know better then anyone how much that hurts.

wolverine316
02-03-2007, 09:28 AM
Exactly the Climmy breakup is Chloe's fault and only Chloe's fault. Clark is and always be her weakness. Probably for the rest of her life. Sad.

ginnyfan
02-03-2007, 01:24 PM
Great posts meteor and AndiGirl! *sigh* Poor Chloe. I hope there's some new development in Chlark friendship before the end of the Season. Things cannot just go back to normal.

NoMoreRedK
02-03-2007, 04:23 PM
Just when I finally enjoyed Chloe's character as she started to be less selfish over her personal relationships, she turned into a b**** around Jimmy. I can understand that she's still in love with Clark and can't fully commit to Jimmy. But Jimmy was right to ask her if she'd rather be with Clark.

She has every right to still love Clark and keep him in her life, but if she is going to put Clark before her boyfriend, she needs to be honest and tell Jimmy that she can't offer him her love due of her unresolved feelings. Jimmy's emotion was honest for how strongly he felt about her. And he's made clear to her how serious his feelings are for her and that he needs to know where she stands. He has reasonable doubts that she cares more for Clark than for him, and he wants the truth.

About time Jimmy stopped allowing himself to be Chloe's second choice and stood up for himself. Jimmy was a man in this episode. He was loving, honest, and strong enough to walk away and let her decide who she really cares about.

RedPhoenix23
02-03-2007, 04:36 PM
Preach it! And I agree, No More RedK! :D

Nightingale20
02-03-2007, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by NoMoreRedK

About time Jimmy stopped allowing himself to be Chloe's second choice and stood up for himself. Jimmy was a man in this episode. He was loving, honest, and strong enough to walk away and let her decide who she really cares about.

I liked Jimmy since he appeared, but liked him even more for that. It showed Jimmy to be very mature and all those qualities mentioned above and more to his character.

k18
02-03-2007, 07:34 PM
When I was watching that scene, I was thinking why is Jimmy crying? He should be angry (rather than sad) that Chloe still has feelings for Clark. If I was Jimmy, I would pull a "Lex" and start planning the downfall of Chlark (friendship and any romance)! REVENGE!!!

BizzaroJerry
02-03-2007, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by k18
When I was watching that scene, I was thinking why is Jimmy crying? He should be angry (rather than sad) that Chloe still has feelings for Clark. If I was Jimmy, I would pull a "Lex" and start planning the downfall of Chlark (friendship and any romance)! REVENGE!!!

Most men cry, mostly on the inside, in private, or in front of someone they know they have not chance of competing for.

Jimmy knew the score the moment he met Clark and Clark vice versa.

Most men in there lives will face a situation like this, its life.

Poor Jimmy, well think of all the good memories you made with a naked Chloe and the whip cream.

Now move over buddy, its time for big boys and super powered aliens to take over.