View Full Version : Will Chloe ever get a Break?!
BeldarofRemulak
02-01-2007, 07:59 PM
Honestly people. Every season, every episode TPTB stab Chloe in the heart and twist it over and over again. Finally when thing are finally going well, they pull this on her!
Runestone
02-01-2007, 08:00 PM
Probably not... The writers love to make her a glutton for punishment, I feel so bad for her.
Ireallylikethisshow
02-01-2007, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by BeldarofRemulak
Honestly people. Every season, every episode TPTB stab Chloe in the heart and twist it over and over again. Finally when thing are finally going well, they pull this on her!
I feel bad for her too! Clark makes fun of her (under influence...), Lois kicks her (under influence...) and Jimmy breaks up with her :(
chlarklove
02-01-2007, 08:03 PM
Honestly, she has to.
You don't consistently show a character's trials and tribulations and make them sympathetic and have the audience want to root for them and *not* have any kind of payoff for them in the end.
Hoshi_Reed
02-01-2007, 08:04 PM
They better pay it off in the end. All this crap dren has to be for something.
Maryliz48
02-01-2007, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Ireallylikethisshow
I feel bad for her too! Clark makes fun of her (under influence...), Lois kicks her (under influence...) and Jimmy breaks up with her :(
Maybe they want us to see her getting kicked around all the time so we'll root for her? :lol: (I think they do)
Anyways I felt terrible for poor little Jimmy.....I hope he feels better after Tresspass and Freak.
myankskent
02-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Well, I think that Chloe is starting to experience the problems with keeping Clark's secret. If we go back to season 5, she loved the fact that she was the only one who knew about Clark and she relished that fact. Well, now it's starting to get back at her and costing her a relationship with Jimmy. Chloe's in a tough spot and she's going to have to make some tough choices, but if she wants a life outside of Clark, she can't be there for Clark every second of the day. I think that this is great for Chloe's character.
Incus
02-01-2007, 08:06 PM
I really think that Chloe will win Clark's affection, only to die at the hands of Lex. Perhaps in the series finale.
uhhuhhim
02-01-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Hoshi_Reed
They better pay it off in the end. All this crap dren has to be for something.
I agree. They've got to be doing it for some reason. The only thing I can think of is Chlois, but EDLois better not swoop in and blow the lid on 33.1 before Chloe does. I think that's what's going to happen next season. Lois and Chloe battle for the story, which lands one of them in the Daily Planet....but yeah, Chloe better get a break.
Maryliz48
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Incus
I really think that Chloe will win Clark's affection, only to die at the hands of Lex. Perhaps in the series finale.
Not if you read the latest interview......they say she's staying on w journalism and will always be bff with Clark and has no place to go but up....soooo......nope. :)
aqgalaxy
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
All I know is what is sad is this was her first Valentines Day with someone... where she can enjoy this holiday and feel loved, just so the NEXT day get her heart broken... God how much heart ache can a girl take!
Whoa, myankskent, you completely read my mind. I think this is excellent for developing her story with knowing Clark's secret. In the episode where Lana knew about Clark (I completely forget the title of it now), she immediately suffered the consequences of it. Chloe hasn't really dealt with anything too major except for some awkward conversations, but now she's been put into tough spots by both her best friend and her boyfriend (err, well, not so much now I guess). I think it's an excellent development for her, although it does sucks that all these bad things keep happening to her!
D.M.A.
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Honestly, she has to.
You don't consistently show a character's trials and tribulations and make them sympathetic and have the audience want to root for them and *not* have any kind of payoff for them in the end.
I agree tho she seems hurt now,I think once she re-evaluates her feelings for clark she'll shift the balance of chlarks relationship in her favor.Cause for once she wont be pinin yet in denial of her feelings which is fine if she chooses not to let it ruin her.If she accepts next week that she is in luv wit clark still and jus decides not to tell him cause he's still hooked on lana then fine.Let her backoff from clark sum and make clark wonder if his words on redk did more harm than he thinks.It will force clark to secretly pine for her whether its for their friendship back or for sumthin more,and I want that.I want clark to work for chloe to be by hisside and not have her in his backpocket like he said tonight.If he has thoughts of wantin her then let him prove it,I think everyone is tired of knowin chloe's feeling yet not clark's.So if chlark does happen later on we kno it wasn't cause chloe was a default/push the issue,it'll be because clark will have to do sum heavy convincin after tonight.
savingpeoplething
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
Chloe is the one character that they constantly make me cheer for, but they never follow up or reward her for ANYTHING and I think that is totally disgusting.
I would love to see Clark finally wise up and realize that Chloe is, indeed, the girl of his dreams.
I would love to see her hard work pay off and get a big story to move her up at The Planet.
And, I would love to see her smack Lana around for always using her as a backup friend.
Why do they continue to totally drag Chloe through the mud if they never plan on rewarding her???
warriorrenegade
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Well, I think that Chloe is starting to experience the problems with keeping Clark's secret. If we go back to season 5, she loved the fact that she was the only one who knew about Clark and she relished that fact. Well, now it's starting to get back at her and costing her a relationship with Jimmy. Chloe's in a tough spot and she's going to have to make some tough choices, but if she wants a life outside of Clark, she can't be there for Clark every second of the day. I think that this is great for Chloe's character.
I see it the same way. Its hard being the bearer of secrets. I look at it this way...Its better than "SuperChloe":lol:
Maryliz48
02-01-2007, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
All I know is what is sad is this was her first Valentines Day with someone... where she can enjoy this holiday and feel loved, just so the NEXT day get her heart broken... God how much heart ache can a girl take!
It was pretty funny though when she was reading her Valentines day card from her boyfriend and she turns around and theres clark standing over her! :lol:
uhhuhhim
02-01-2007, 08:12 PM
All I know is what is sad is this was her first Valentines Day with someone... where she can enjoy this holiday and feel loved, just so the NEXT day get her heart broken... God how much heart ache can a girl take!
Yeah, it's true, but: Chloe is a tough *****. All these other girls just need to step back...LOL
myankskent
02-01-2007, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by savingpeoplething
Why do they continue to totally drag Chloe through the mud if they never plan on rewarding her???
Well, I agree that Chloe got crapped on this episode, no argument here, but you don't think that her being Clark's best friend who has been the only one to know Clark's secret for the past two years is not rewarding her as a character? How about the fact that she is at the DP? This is the first really major problem that she has had to face since season 3.
D.M.A.
02-01-2007, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Well, I think that Chloe is starting to experience the problems with keeping Clark's secret. If we go back to season 5, she loved the fact that she was the only one who knew about Clark and she relished that fact. Well, now it's starting to get back at her and costing her a relationship with Jimmy. Chloe's in a tough spot and she's going to have to make some tough choices, but if she wants a life outside of Clark, she can't be there for Clark every second of the day. I think that this is great for Chloe's character.
but thats the thing does she want a life outside of clark,when she rethinks things next week its not jus about the secret but if jimmy is right that she wants clark.It clearly says she rethinks how she feels for her bestfriend not if the secret is a burden,in order to rethink bein the sole secret keeper she'll have to realize that she's over clark.And I think that was made clear tonight by jimmy/lois that she isn't,so if she does rethink bein close to clark as friends its only because she has to rethink tellin him how she feels first.She's in luv wit him no secret we all known,but does clark kno she'll have to think if its worth tellin him.And I'm bettin wit his lil outcry to luvin lana she'll decide its not worth it and THEN start to rethink bein so close to him,cause jimmy leaves in freak.So after he's gone/chlimmy's gone she'll have to rethink bein stuck in the middle of clana while havin feelings of her own.I dont think she'll pine but she'll keep her feelings to herself til maybe the end of the season when she makes a decision on tellin clark.But I jus cant believe that she rethinks their closeness/friendship because of a guy she doesn't luv(Jimmy) and is in denial over.Thats why I'm expectin her to admit things next week to jimmy jus to please him but it wont work cause jus like tonights last chlimmy scene it will be force and jimmy and even she'll kno it
ma200
02-01-2007, 08:22 PM
Clark saying he had Chloe in his back pocket was terrible.
Basically, he just said that if he can't find anyone by the time he's 35, he'll just marry her.
myankskent
02-01-2007, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
but thats the thing does she want a life outside of clark,when she rethinks things next week its not jus about the secret but if jimmy is right that she wants clark.It clearly says she rethinks how she feels for her bestfriend not if the secret is a burden,in order to rethink bein the sole secret keeper she'll have to realize that she's over clark.
Well, that's the bad thing for Chloe's character in this episode. If Chloe is not over Clark, then where does her character go from here? Does she go back to pining for Clark after being called out on it by Clark himself this episode or does she finally put Clark in the past? That's the question. I think that it is quite clear that as of now, Chloe doesn't want Clark, he wants Lana and that looks to be the direction of this season. Even next week when Chloe is taking a close look at her feelings, Clark is going to be wrapped up in the Lana stalker storyline.
Incus
02-01-2007, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Not if you read the latest interview......they say she's staying on w journalism and will always be bff with Clark and has no place to go but up....soooo......nope. :)
No place to go but up...exactly... up to the pearly white gates in the sky!
myankskent
02-01-2007, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by ma200
Clark saying he had Chloe in his back pocket was terrible.
Basically, he just said that if he can't find anyone by the time he's 35, he'll just marry her.
Yeah, that pretty much kills future Chlark doesn't it? Why would Chloe even want to settle for this scenario?
SmallvilleMan
02-01-2007, 08:26 PM
I still give him a pass on red k.......That isn't him, despite what martha says. Unless they want people thinking Clark is that kind of a-hole. HEY LOOK, OUR SUPERMAN IS AN A-HOLE.
ma200
02-01-2007, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Yeah, that pretty much kills future Chlark doesn't it? Why would Chloe even want to settle for this scenario?
I wouldn't be surprised, though. She's too kind and forgiving.
*cough*doormat*cough*
SmallvilleMan
02-01-2007, 08:29 PM
Have you developed a cold since I left ma?:p
ma200
02-01-2007, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I still give him a pass on red k.......That isn't him, despite what martha says. Unless they want people thinking Clark is that kind of a-hole. HEY LOOK, OUR SUPERMAN IS AN A-HOLE.
I don't know. Either way, it doesn't make Superman look good.
ChlarkMe
02-01-2007, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by ma200
Clark saying he had Chloe in his back pocket was terrible.
Basically, he just said that if he can't find anyone by the time he's 35, he'll just marry her.
Or at least move her to the front pocket where I'm sure it's much more fun.
ma200
02-01-2007, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Have you developed a cold since I left ma?:p
Guess I wasn't convincing enough, huh. :lol:
The show...wasn't living up to my expectations.
sstray72
02-01-2007, 08:32 PM
Sure she'll get a break... a breakup!!
wakka wakka wakka...
:p
SmallvilleMan
02-01-2007, 08:33 PM
I don't know. Either way, it doesn't make Superman look good.
Yeah, well, I haven't liked the show much. I was suckered in by the clana this week and will be next week too(I need my clana. :cool: )
meggy
02-01-2007, 08:35 PM
no...apparently she will NEVER get a freakin break!
now while I love the idea of her getting some distance from CK for a bit, and her feeling the effects of keeping his secret (bcause seriously, that is a very realistic scenario, and all friendships need to be tested)...i absolutely HATE the line from Clark at the end! so WTF???? Chloe is a "back pocket girl". WTH?????? that is a very degrading way to describe a female character...heck, ANY female character....i would have thought that the writers had more CLASS than that....
sometimes i have to wonder with TPTB when I see them do things for all the female characters in this show....Clark needs to get over his issues...if he continues to think of her that way subconsciously or not, then HELL YES she needs some distance from him, so he could see what an ass he has become....
either step up or step out
AndiGirl
02-01-2007, 08:45 PM
I do have to agree that the writers are putting her through all of this for a reason. Thats why we love Chloe so much, she's the girl that gets dragged through the mud and comes back with a smile on her face. I do hope she gets a really nice break sometime soon! In a way the whole Clark thing is a break because I think she's really seeing who she is. I have no doubt in my mind that Chloe won't pursue anything with Clark because she knows now she deserves better. Allison has already said Chloe won't pine, and it's obvious she is doing everything in her power to make that happen. While she obviosuly still has feelings for Clark, I'm proud of her for keeping her standards nice and high where they should be! At this point I don't want Chloe and Clark together...as much as i hate to admitt it. Clark needs to get over his hangups and really be there for Chloe......and oh yea, get over Lana!
pleasenoclois
02-01-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by meggy
no...apparently she will NEVER get a freakin break!
now while I love the idea of her getting some distance from CK for a bit, and her feeling the effects of keeping his secret (bcause seriously, that is a very realistic scenario, and all friendships need to be tested)...i absolutely HATE the line from Clark at the end! so WTF???? Chloe is a "back pocket girl". WTH?????? that is a very degrading way to describe a female character...heck, ANY female character....i would have thought that the writers had more CLASS than that....
sometimes i have to wonder with TPTB when I see them do things for all the female characters in this show....Clark needs to get over his issues...if he continues to think of her that way subconsciously or not, then HELL YES she needs some distance from him, so he could see what an ass he has become....
either step up or step out
My thoughts EXACTLY! You would think Clark would have at least SOME respect for his best friend... Guess even that is too much to ask for.
D.M.A.
02-01-2007, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Well, that's the bad thing for Chloe's character in this episode. If Chloe is not over Clark, then where does her character go from here? Does she go back to pining for Clark after being called out on it by Clark himself this episode or does she finally put Clark in the past? That's the question. I think that it is quite clear that as of now, Chloe doesn't want Clark, he wants Lana and that looks to be the direction of this season. Even next week when Chloe is taking a close look at her feelings, Clark is going to be wrapped up in the Lana stalker storyline.
I agree which builds on the chlark tension more,Its not she doesn't want clark/he wants lana...Its she does want clark but is in denial cause clark wants lana instead.So she'll rethink bein close so she can try to make things work wit jimmy or whoever since clark is still in lana land.I thought the epi clearly shows that if she does process her feelings and admits she luvs clark still that she'll back off cause clana have 2 much goin on.Lana is tryin to force chloe to admit she's in on clark's secret,and clark is constantly sayin he wants to stop the weddin.So she wont go back to pinin jus realize that clark is alil more complicated than she needs right now.She will try to save the chlimmy ship I bet by sayin whatever jimmy wants to hear but it wont do much cause jus like tonight she cant let go of clark.Thats fine wit me but she wont pine,she'll jus try to avoid the mess that clark has setup.Which sets it up so that if chlark does happen later clark will have to pursue her cause she wont think its worth gettin involve wit clark when he obviously cant move on from lana.So she'll rethink tryin to move on as well,but we kno it wont work.She isn't over clark that was obvious,but she knows he isn't over lana either.So she'll rethink if her closeness is givin off more than she wants
SmallvilleMan
02-01-2007, 08:54 PM
Jimmy's a nice guy, why can't she stay with him? Move on Chloe, move on....Why can't martha voice her opinion here?
D.M.A.
02-01-2007, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Jimmy's a nice guy, why can't she stay with him? Move on Chloe, move on....Why can't martha voice her opinion here?
Because the chlark tension from vessel/zod never been completely over jus like clana.Tptb left it open in Zod and also set it up from the beginnin that jimmy couldn't compete wit clark,chloe is in luv wit clark yet she's in denial cause he's still caughtup on lana.She wont admit that she's in luv wit him cause she wants to fall out of it cause she think its not possible for clark to move on to her.So she's in denial,yet its not ruinin her life either she tried datin jimmy and still havin clark closeby the prob was after awhile it started becomin obvious to jimmy what she was doin.She thinks she cant have clark yet stays close by jus incase and jimmy caughton and is givin her the easy way out.He's lettin her go so she can tell clark,but she wont cause of clana.As long as clana is unresolve neither will chlark.Chloe cant move on til she tells her feelings to clark and as long as clark is mention lana she'll jus keep it to herself and try to moveon anyways.As for martha,she doesn't kno of the chlark vessel moment and doesn't kno how clark feels.All she know is he obvious has sumthin still for lana but that he may feel sumthin for the other 2 girls as well.Thats why she tells him to process his feelings first cause he's actually confused,he may be single but in a way he's usin all 3 girls.He says he wants lana/doesn't want her marryin lex,is supposingly smitten by lois,and close to chloe because he cant have lana as his first choice.So imo its obvious the boy needs sum soul searchin cause he pretty much says he would be wit chloe if he cant have lana(But believes he can so he kidnaps her).So imo chloe cant move on/end of chlark as long as clana is still unresolved,unless they have her go into denial of her feelings wit clark(Like she's currently doin wit jimmy)while clark gets his act together
Autumn
02-01-2007, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by meggy
no...apparently she will NEVER get a freakin break!
now while I love the idea of her getting some distance from CK for a bit, and her feeling the effects of keeping his secret (bcause seriously, that is a very realistic scenario, and all friendships need to be tested)...i absolutely HATE the line from Clark at the end! so WTF???? Chloe is a "back pocket girl". WTH?????? that is a very degrading way to describe a female character...heck, ANY female character....i would have thought that the writers had more CLASS than that....
sometimes i have to wonder with TPTB when I see them do things for all the female characters in this show....Clark needs to get over his issues...if he continues to think of her that way subconsciously or not, then HELL YES she needs some distance from him, so he could see what an ass he has become....
either step up or step out
Amen!!!
MsSullivan
02-01-2007, 10:35 PM
*sigh* I hope so...Chloe fans need a break from all the heart ache :/
Chiriru
02-01-2007, 10:36 PM
Chloe will get a break.... at the series finale. The more hurt they pile on, then by traditional writing, the better the pay off for her there will be.
Kinda stinks for her fans in the mean time.
shansgrl
02-01-2007, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Chiriru
Chloe will get a break.... at the series finale. The more hurt they pile on, then by traditional writing, the better the pay off for her there will be.
Kinda stinks for her fans in the mean time.
Your lips to TPTB's ears!
Lostfan588
02-01-2007, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Chiriru
Chloe will get a break.... at the series finale. The more hurt they pile on, then by traditional writing, the better the pay off for her there will be.
Kinda stinks for her fans in the mean time.
I agree :D . The only reason Chloe is made a sympathetic character and has to go through the more struggles than the other and work hard for everything she gets, is bc they WANT us to root for her. Even in a EDLois and Clark centric episode they made us want to root for Chloe bc hey Clark mocking her, Lois kicking her, Jimmy dumping her.......good god :lol: ! And we're not suppose to want her to come out on top? Wow.....yep. I agree I expect the teasing to continue and nothing Chlark or Chlois concrete til the series finale.
gogeta
02-01-2007, 10:40 PM
All this does is make chloe more sympathetic, at least to me. I'm really tired of "let's kick chloe" on smallville..but i do think they'll be pay off.
meggy
02-01-2007, 10:44 PM
there better be a pay off..i hope someone in the offices of TPTB re reading this... and have real plans to do something about it
Rachel B
02-01-2007, 10:46 PM
TpTb really likes to play chloeball. :rolleyes: I don't mind Chloe being dragged thrugh the mud sometimes, cuz she does seem to be one of the few characters that can take it. But for all that she has been thru she has already met her quota for "most abused character of the series"
But hey I'm patient (at least i will try to be) and will wait to see the big pay off.
meteor
02-01-2007, 10:50 PM
well, technically in the context of the show, it's Chloe doing it to herself with her inability to get past Clark 6 years later. if she had any conviction at all when she told Jimmy that she wouldn't choose Clark over him, he wouldn't have broken up with her. Jimmy did what any sane guy would have done in that position.
you have to remember that Chloe does get a lot of respect on the show...she is often in the middle of Clark and Lana but they always in the end tell her how important she is to both of them. also, professionally she is way ahead of anyone else on the show and was granted virtual Justice League MEMBER status which imo is a huge deal.
she suffers in the love department but that is her main issue...and every character has them. without issues there's no drama.
freefall
02-01-2007, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by meteor
well, technically in the context of the show, it's Chloe doing it to herself with her inability to get past Clark 6 years later. if she had any conviction at all when she told Jimmy that she wouldn't choose Clark over him, he wouldn't have broken up with her. Jimmy did what any sane guy would have done in that position.
you have to remember that Chloe does get a lot of respect on the show...she is often in the middle of Clark and Lana but they always in the end tell her how important she is to both of them. also, professionally she is way ahead of anyone else on the show and was granted virtual Justice League MEMBER status which imo is a huge deal.
she suffers in the love department but that is her main issue...and every character has them. without issues there's no drama.
Word. As much as I love Chloe myself, it's nobody's fault if she got hurt because of her feelings towards Chloe. This friction with Jimmy should be enough indication of that. Also, being one of the carriers of Clark's secret is never easy and it would be ridiculous if it's smooth sailing all the way.
Phantazma
02-01-2007, 11:37 PM
I feel that Chloe will always end up the loser simply because she wasn't a character in the comic books. :(
boywithbluehanger
02-01-2007, 11:42 PM
** I on behalf of Smallville am going to promise EVERYONE who watches the series that Chloe will not be killed off of the show.
It will greatly benefit anyone who sees this to remember this post... **
meteor
02-01-2007, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Phantazma
I feel that Chloe will always end up the loser simply because she wasn't a character in the comic books. :(
see that is what i dont understand...she is a loser just because Clark isn't in love with her? to me her character is about way more than that. She is the future Superman's most trusted confidante as well as being a member at this point of the future justice league...and she is on her way to becoming a wrld class reporter while being far ahead of any other character on a professional level.
If Chloe sort of represents the feminist element of the show which judging on what i've read since i came here i think she clearly does, what does that represent when given all her qulaiites, at the end of the day people feel like she is the poor stepchild just because she doesn't get the guy?
i embrace her becuase of her ability and integrity...i couldn't care less who is in love with her and who isn't. it shouldn't define her on Smallville IMHO.
freefall
02-02-2007, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by meteor
i embrace her becuase of her ability and integrity...i couldn't care less who is in love with her and who isn't. it shouldn't define her on Smallville IMHO.
Quoted for truth once again. Chloe isn't defined by whom she ended up with, her character is above that kind of thing.
Phantazma
02-02-2007, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by meteor
she is a loser just because Clark isn't in love with her?
As a wise friend once said: Runner-up is first loser. "Back pocket girl" sounds to me a lot like runner-up. :p
Somewhere deep within Chloe's psyche, a part of her still wants Clark. That ache is probably a source of psychological torture for her and it helped to cost her a chance at happiness with Jimmy. As you pointed out Chloe's an accomplished person. She's accustomed to striving for the best in life. Personally, I can't see an individual like Chloe being content with being second best. I wouldn't be surprised that underneath the layers of maturity and intelligence, Chloe miserably sees herself as a "loser" in terms of winning Clark's affections.
Sk8erGur1
02-02-2007, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by ma200
Clark saying he had Chloe in his back pocket was terrible.
Basically, he just said that if he can't find anyone by the time he's 35, he'll just marry her.
Thank you. He's bascially saying that he'll onlly be with her because he has no other choice not because he woud willing want to do so.
InLove_with_Chloe
02-02-2007, 02:16 AM
Why do Ch(l)immy have to break up now that Chloe is actually happy???
:confused:
Shame on you, AlMiles.
Originally posted by Sk8erGur1
Thank you. He's bascially saying that he'll onlly be with her because he has no other choice not because he woud willing want to do so.
Which really shits on the idea of a Clark and Chloe romance.
I'd rather have no Chlark than Chloe being Clark's back-up...
:mad:
puppiesnkittens
02-02-2007, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Why do Ch(l)immy have to break up now that Chloe is actually happy???
:confused:
Shame on you, AlMiles.
I'd rather have no Chlark than Chloe being Clark's back-up...
:mad:
Yep, I truly think tptb love to make Chloe look pathetic next to Lana. Always trying to make her miserable over Clark. I loved her being with "her" guy. It really pisses me off that, based on some spoilers, IMHO they are trying to set her up to be the same girl who trails after Clark. I like her, she needs to move on. But with these writers, :rolleyes: .
InLove_with_Chloe
02-02-2007, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by puppiesnkittens
Yep, I truly think tptb love to make Chloe look pathetic next to Lana. Always trying to make her miserable over Clark. I loved her being with "her" guy. It really pisses me off that, based on some spoilers, IMHO they are trying to set her up to be the same girl who trails after Clark. I like her, she needs to move on. But with these writers, :rolleyes: .
Well, Ch(l)immy might come back next season...
Jimmy has proven himself worthy of her today, I think...
Not so the BDA.
puppiesnkittens
02-02-2007, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Well, Ch(l)immy might come back next season...
Jimmy has proven himself worthy of her today, I think...
Not so the BDA.
I like Jimmy, and his tears at the end...:(
I hope they get back together, Jimmy gave her the affection she deserves and I don't think they will ever have Clark do the same.
InLove_with_Chloe
02-02-2007, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by puppiesnkittens
I like Jimmy, and his tears at the end...:(
I hope they get back together, Jimmy gave her the affection she deserves and I don't think they will ever have Clark do the same.
That's true. Unfortunately, says the Chlarker inside me...
AA was amazing.
Mary Sullivan
02-02-2007, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by savingpeoplething
Chloe is the one character that they constantly make me cheer for, but they never follow up or reward her for ANYTHING and I think that is totally disgusting.
I would love to see Clark finally wise up and realize that Chloe is, indeed, the girl of his dreams.
I would love to see her hard work pay off and get a big story to move her up at The Planet.
And, I would love to see her smack Lana around for always using her as a backup friend.
Why do they continue to totally drag Chloe through the mud if they never plan on rewarding her??? I think they'll reward her. I think this is the purpose of Level 33.1 story.
Before Crimson i watched Smallville because of Clark and Chloe bu now the only reason i watch is because of Chloe and i want to see her happy in the end. She deserves.
Rhoda123
02-02-2007, 08:45 AM
Everyone here knows that I have been a Chlarker since season 1, episode 1 and over the years, that has never changed even though as a Chlark fan, it has been difficult to see Clark constantly choose Lana, Alicia, Lois etc over Chloe romantically when I know without a doubt that Chloe would be the best thing that ever happened to Clark Kent!! This episode has truly pissed me off.. first off, I agree that I don't think the Red K Clark represents how Clark feels at all.. Martha Kent is WRONG! In some small way, it may have a few feelings deep inside Clark but it isn't anything that Clark feels on a day to day basis. Kal is Clark with a bad attitude and no conscience.. Clark would never hurt Chloe intentionally! But with that said, I think Chloe needs to tell Clark that she is backing off from their friendship.. her feelings for him are still there and to get over him, she doesn't need to be around him. At that time, I want Clark to realize how much he misses Chloe and pine for her for awhile.. I still want Chlark but I want Chlark done right and not have the relationship be a rebound relationship or a just because there is noone better waiting relationship. I'd rather not see Chlark than have it written poorly!
Monica_O
02-02-2007, 08:57 AM
I think that Kal in some ways is how Clark feels, for example, he might think that Lois is hot, but she doesn't really matter to him, Lana is important but in a violent kind of "I want you no matter what happened I have to have you" thing and Chloe... she's the one that he has been wanting for long, that he had thought about but doesn't act on it 'cause he has the most to lose if he does something bad to her.
At least that's what I think :).
Rhoda123
02-02-2007, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Monica_O
I think that Kal in some ways is how Clark feels, for example, he might think that Lois is hot, but she doesn't really matter to him, Lana is important but in a violent kind of "I want you no matter what happened I have to have you" thing and Chloe... she's the one that he has been wanting for long, that he had thought about but doesn't act on it 'cause he has the most to lose if he does something bad to her.
At least that's what I think :).
Good points!!!!! I think he realizes that with Chloe, the most important relationship in his life besides his mother and father, he will lose a part of him if they get together and don't work out but if that doesn't happen, then they both lose because it could be FANTASTIC!
michaelkent
02-02-2007, 09:52 AM
Jimmy's behavior toward Chloe in last night's Crimson episode revealed (IMHO) that even though he may be 20 some years old he behaves like a teenage boy in high school. My reasons:
1. Inspite of the fact that she has repeatedly told him that she and Clark are close friends but nothing more, Jimmy appears to be demanding an 'oath of loyalty' to him alone. For instance, in an earlier episode this season, Jimmy went all spazzy when he learned that Chloe was out in the woods with Clark trying to gather evidence about a 'zoner'. The guy is a possessive idiot! Chloe is his girlfriend not his possession to dictate to and order around.
2. Instead of trusting her (even though she has not lied to him and even saved his life), he continues on his paranoid behavior by insisting that she admit she is in love with Clark. Thankfully, Chloe was stern with him during the episode and essentially told him to knock off the childish ramblings.
2. If Jimmy's behavior is representative of a sane guy, then the world of men has gone bonkers. Chloe is clearly being the mature member in their relationship so far. Yes, she still has feelings for Clark, but so what? Twenty-six years of marriage have taught me that love (although feelings are definitely apart of it) in the end is essentially a choice. In the traditional Christian wedding ceremony, the word 'love' does not appear. Is this because Christianity doesn't see love as a virtue? Of course not! The vows taken in the marriage ceremony speak of honoring and serving one other no matter what life's circumstances bring. Love is definitely far more than how excited one becomes when making love to a member of the opposite sex. Lust can achieve that result just as well.
3. I said all that to say that Chloe recognizes her feelings for Clark but for the last few seasons has laid them aside out of her concern for Clark's happiness. She also has feelings for Jimmy the Jerk and by her own words (however hesitantly stated) has said that he is her guy. She is making a choice, based on the circumstances, to move on from Clark and develop a relationship with someone who is interested in her. Wake up, wittle Jimmy, mature love and devotion don't always happen in a matter of a few weeks or months. It develops and continues to grow throughout the years in a committed relationship. Jimmy the Geek should give Chloe the chance to grow in her feelings for him and
let their relationship develop.
4. Furthermore, I would tell the little brat to take his can of cool whip, shove it in the place where the sun doesn't shine, and start to think about her needs and feelings. She doesn't exist to be your little play thing and your prized possession. Grow up, stop thinking about what you want her to do for you and plan how you can show her you that you love her. She doesn't have to drop friends or reduce the time she spends with them just because you're too emotionally insecure to handle it. If Jimmy can't handle it, then he is not mature enough for Chloe. IMHO he doesn't deserve her as long as he acts this way.
I'm not a Jimmy fan (never have been) but it's fine with me if TPTB end up putting Chloe and him together. IMO I don't think a Chloe and Clark romance will happen in Smallville, although I wouldn't object to it at all (even though I find the Clark of Smallville to essentially be an airhead). Perhaps the Jimmy and Chloe pairing will return later in the series. An interesting scene would involve Clark going to see Jimmy and attempt to reassure him that he and Chloe will never be romantically involved (hopefully he'll share some of the points I listed in #4, above).
In summary, the fall out between Jimmy and Chloe is overwhelmingly (if not entirely) his fault. Chloe owes him no apology and shouldn't have to beg to make him wake up. Jimmy needs to swallow his pride, apologize to Chloe for acting like a little boy, and then try to restore their relationship to what it was and beyond. Above all, I want Chloe to have a happy ending when the series end (I don't care about the ending for Lana, Lois, or even Clark).
skywalker28
02-02-2007, 10:10 AM
I just wish somebody would give Chloe a hug, she really could use one.:(
meteor_phreak
02-02-2007, 01:30 PM
it does seem that she was born to suffer. as a chloeholic, i'm happy to sit along for the ride, even though i wish it was a little smoother. like that harry connick jr song...
"somebody who
could make me be true,
could make me be blue,
or even be glad
just to be sad
thinking of you."
seems to be her lot in life. i don't quote songs often on message boards, but this one seems so appropriate.
SmallvilleMan
02-02-2007, 01:34 PM
I think Jimmy was partly wrong here, but partly right. If Jimmy say to Chloe what Clark said to her, he'd be in deep crap. It's hard for him to understand why Chloe just shook it off and moved on. Jimmy has a right to question that, not to mention the fact Chloe is always with Clark and they're always doing something secretive. You expect Jimmy as a bf just to go around with a smile on his face? Jimmy has a right to know if Chloe wants to be with Clark. Which she doesn't even know the answer to.
michaelkent
02-02-2007, 01:52 PM
I don't expect Jimmy to walk around with a smile on his face, but I do expect to him respect his girlfriend's wishes not to keep bringing up an issue that she has called him on. I believe she told him two times to stop acting so paranoid. If he can't accept her answer then maybe he did the right thing by calling off their relationship. Nevertheless, Jimmy is the one who bears the responsibility for the breakup, regardless of what his feelings are.
I agree with you that Chloe is not quite sure of her status with Clark. She cares deeply for him, but probably knows her chances of being romantically involved with him are slim to none.
Chloe, beware of Jimmy's possessive nature!
SmallvilleMan
02-02-2007, 01:56 PM
I don't expect Jimmy to walk around with a smile on his face, but I do expect to him respect his girlfriend's wishes not to keep bringing up an issue that she has called him on. I believe she told him two times to stop acting so paranoid. If he can't accept her answer then maybe he did the right thing by calling off their relationship. Nevertheless, Jimmy is the one who bears the responsibility for the breakup, regardless of what his feelings are.
Paranoia is about imaging something isn't there. Jimmy isn't paranoid, especially when he's right. Chloe hesitated when Jimmy asked who she would choose. It isn't fair for him to love someone who loves someone else. When you hang out with someone more than you do your own bf, that's a problem.
agree with you that Chloe is not quite sure of her status with Clark. She cares deeply for him, but probably knows her chances of being romantically involved with him are slim to none.
Then she shouldn't be with someone, if she doesn't know if she loves someone else. That isn't fair to jimmy.
DorkMatter
02-02-2007, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Monica_O
I think that Kal in some ways is how Clark feels, for example, he might think that Lois is hot, but she doesn't really matter to him, Lana is important but in a violent kind of "I want you no matter what happened I have to have you" thing and Chloe... she's the one that he has been wanting for long, that he had thought about but doesn't act on it 'cause he has the most to lose if he does something bad to her.
At least that's what I think :).
And I think you're right. :) As I have pointed out in several other threads, Clark on red kryptonite is really his id coming out to play--and to deliberately hurt others. Perhaps he is more sexually attracted to some other women, hence what he said, but Chloe is more important as a whole person to Clark when he's a whole person (no red kryptonite).
This event should force them to reexamine their relationship, because what I've just said was not immediately obvious to Clark and may not be to Chloe, either. I certainly do not believe that he was lying every time he told Chloe how much she means to him, but now he has to reconcile this with what he said while under the influence, which had a grain of truth in it, but was far from the whole truth. This seems to be very much a metaphor for growing up and learning his true identity.
SmallvilleMan
02-02-2007, 02:43 PM
Of course Chloe means a lot to Clark, she's his best friend. His very best friend, nothing more.
darkraya
02-02-2007, 02:44 PM
they should give her a break. and her breakup with jimmy just wasent fair to her.
SmallvilleMan
02-02-2007, 02:46 PM
They should give Clark a break.......
savingpeoplething
02-02-2007, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Well, I agree that Chloe got crapped on this episode, no argument here, but you don't think that her being Clark's best friend who has been the only one to know Clark's secret for the past two years is not rewarding her as a character? How about the fact that she is at the DP?
NO OTHER CHARACTER gets crapped on like Chloe (she got freaking dumped on Valentine's Day!) and I expect bigger rewards than a best friendship with Clark (yes. I think a romance with him would be reward) and the basement of The Daily Planet.
I just expect all of these tauntings by Lana, Lex, Linda, and even now with Lois to be moving toward something...
Billy Jor-El
02-03-2007, 11:26 AM
More than ever this ep should be the catalyst that gets Chloe to move away from Clark emotionally. They may remain friends, but this could be the moment where Lois takes over main stage.
Darth Pipes
02-03-2007, 12:20 PM
Chloe gets it from every side. Clark always dumps his problems on her and it's amazing she can tolerate his non-stop moping and whining about Lana. Lana is just a ***** to her, demanding that she know Clark's secret. And they producers still won't have her get over her love for Clark when they have absolutely no intention of paying it off. Yeah, she's put through the ringer all right.
NoMoreRedK
02-03-2007, 05:37 PM
Chloe gets a raw deal because she allows it to happen to her. Not that I don't sympathize with her, but it is as much her doing as it is Clark, Lana, Jimmy etc. She takes everyone's problems and emotions on herself, and yet is too afraid to express her own. If she would confront the feelings she has inside and let each respective person know how she's feeling, she could move on.
She loses Jimmy because she won't be honest that she still feels for Clark. Tell him the truth, and in time maybe the relationship can work.
She suffers from Clark because she puts up her defenses and refuses to tell him how she still feels. He's told her many times that he doesn't feel that way. And if she'd tell him it hurts when he talks about Lana Lovin', he'd probably ease up.
Her relationship with Lana suffers because she allows herself to get in between the Clark and Lana relationship, and then has to lie to Lana's face when she brings up "Clark's secret."
If Chloe wants to be everyone's confidant and keep everything inside, she's going to suffer. It's admirable that she wants to do that; that's why she's so respected. But if she wants to end the pain, she's going to have to be selfish and think of herself. And that's what will likely be coming as she reflects on her relationship with Clark.
SmallvilleMan
02-03-2007, 05:43 PM
Chloe gets a raw deal because she allows it to happen to her. Not that I don't sympathize with her, but it is as much her doing as it is Clark, Lana, Jimmy etc. She takes everyone's problems and emotions on herself, and yet is too afraid to express her own. If she would confront the feelings she has inside and let each respective person know how she's feeling, she could move on.
She had that kind of person, who she could be open with, but she was too busy with Clark to notice him. If she opened her eyes, much like Chlark fans complained about Clark not opening eyes she could have been with a great guy.
NoMoreRedK
02-03-2007, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
She had that kind of person, who she could be open with, but she was too busy with Clark to notice him. If she opened her eyes, much like Chlark fans complained about Clark not opening eyes she could have been with a great guy.
Amen!
Coyote
02-03-2007, 06:56 PM
Chloe definitely got a great break when she met Jimmy, but she's screwing that up because of her hopeless devotion to a guy that has already kicked her aside and humiliated her too many times to count. To a certain extent, people have to make their own breaks, and Chloe just isn't doing that.
BeldarofRemulak
02-04-2007, 09:36 AM
Chloe is just being there for her friend because she has to cover his secrets. SHe can not possibly explain to Jimmy why she is always around Clark or why she can forgive him so quickly. This is more of the burden of knowledge rather than Chloe being at fault. She tried to tell Jimmy that he was Her guy, but he didnt believe that. There is only so much that a girl can do. Not everything is Chloe's fault.
Nightingale20
02-04-2007, 10:54 AM
I didn't think either Jimmy or Chloe were at fault. Chloe could not very well tell Clark's secret and she couldn't come up with a good reason to explain to Jimmy without revealing it. And from Jimmy's point of view, there seemed to be suspicious and confusing going on. I just hope that the break up leads Chloe to reevaluate her friendship with Clark and the friendship changes for the better.
President_Luthor
02-04-2007, 03:06 PM
It's another chicken come home to roost. Chloe, like it or not, has shown more commitment to Clark's friendship than she has to her own relationship with Jimmy. Jimmy doesn't know Clark's secret, so all her secret-related behaviour would seem odd and irrational. Clark's red-k fueled actions would look like the act of an overly possessive ex-boyfriend with jealousy and anger issues -- and Chloe's apparent willingness to overlook those flaws and brush them under the carpet was too much to take in his eyes.
It's unfortunate that Jimmy gets caught in the secrets-and-lies crossfire, but it was bound to happen. How much longer was Jimmy expected to simply endure the fact that Chloe and Clark have a bond that he would not be able to grasp? It's a trust issue and sadly, Jimmy is not entitled to know Clark's secret yet.
I don't think Jimmy had much option (and he did say a "break"-- we could split hairs til the Kent cows come home if he meant a temporary cool-off period or permanent breakup) unless he was supposed to meekly stand by as Chloe runs off on Clark-related activities with little explanation and spends more time with someone who's just a close "friend".
Both Jimmy and Chloe were victims of circumstances: he knows too little about "The Secret"; she knows too much about it. Score another point for Secrets and Lies.
meggy
02-04-2007, 06:37 PM
i agree there President Luthor....score another point for Secrets and Lies..it pretty much screws everyone up...and as someone stated, she may have to be a bit selfish...but i dont ant her to be..i love the fact that she tries to be a good friend to all...but the reality of life is that sometimes you have to put yourself first before you can help anyone else.....
ms.c.
02-08-2007, 01:47 PM
Chloe is constantly getting stomped upon emotionally but she handles it all really well. She keeps picking herself up and that makes her a great role model.
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