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Exodus2000
01-25-2007, 08:54 PM
Wow, what was that? :\
Tomsgurl88
01-25-2007, 09:00 PM
I gasped with Chloe got shot, and i forgot to mention in my other thread how great Allison was in this episode as well, but yeah seeing Chloe die was definetely unnerving, but it was sad when Chloe asked Clark how she was in his alternate universe and of course he couldn't tell her the truth.
Ardiem3
01-25-2007, 09:03 PM
Is it just me, or did Clark not seem as upset or moved as when Lana died in "Recknoning." Although he didnt cry when Lana died in that episode, i thought, seeing as Chloe is his best friend, that he would have shed a tear when Chloe died IMO.
Coyote
01-25-2007, 09:03 PM
I hope this isn't foreshadowing for having her really get killed next season. Apparently the idea is in the writer's minds.
Well, they have to explain how Chloe isn't in the Superman Legend somehow....
I thought it was great. Especially her being in the mental facility with Clarke. That had a great continuance with her having mental disorders in her family (remember the episode where she went to meet her mom in the mental institution). Anyhow, it was a great episode and I like how Clarke didn't tell her that she was ill, but instead that she was the only one that stood by him and believed him.
Great props to this episode. One of the better ones this season.
meggy
01-25-2007, 09:13 PM
actually, i dont think he had time to cry...and he was still trying to convince himself that it was all unreal....he didn't believe that Chloe was dead, until after the doc explained things to him and he said...
"Chloe's really dead?"..and slumped on the floor....so even though he didnt cry a river..it seemed to work with the story
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Ardiem3
Is it just me, or did Clark not seem as upset or moved as when Lana died in "Recknoning." Although he didnt cry when Lana died in that episode, i thought, seeing as Chloe is his best friend, that he would have shed a tear when Chloe died IMO.
I was disappointed wit the no tears myself I expected them but I think it took a min for it to click in his head.Thats why when the phantom speaks to him he has to admit to hisself that she really is dead,for a moment he started to believe he was crazy so I think that played a part in him not cryin.Cause he knew it wasn't real,diff from lana dyin when he looked as tho he cried sum cause it was real at the moment.Wit chloe he knew it wasn't real and didn't wanna giveup hope it wasn't intil the doc convince him it was I saw him really mope.And his hug to her was sweet,funny when it showed her confused expression :lol: .And then her askin about herself in the dream and clark hesitatin over tellin her of her death was good cause I expected it :D .Tonights epi was confusin more than tellin,but in a way I'm not suprise by his reaction only because he knew it wasn't real.If it was I'd expect tears and abunch of screamin :lol:
AndiGirl
01-25-2007, 09:16 PM
It was nice to see how much chloe means to him
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by meggy
actually, i dont think he had time to cry...and he was still trying to convince himself that it was all unreal....he didn't believe that Chloe was dead, until after the doc explained things to him and he said...
"Chloe's really dead?"..and slumped on the floor....so even though he didnt cry a river..it seemed to work with the story
Well u seem to get the point across in less words :lol: I agree
And plus, didn't it kind of cut out and have him in the room with Dr. Hudson with the straight jacket on. He could have already cried, etc. but he was just in disbelief.
Denial and disbelief is a normal part of the grieving process, so I think they did the whole story well.
Laguine
01-25-2007, 09:18 PM
That scene wasn't as good as it was suppose to me. I don't wanna complain about Alison's acting but she didn't touch me at all. If Chloe die IMO her last words would be: Clark I love you. It would be a really dramatic scene.
lillie_poo_pod
01-25-2007, 09:19 PM
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than the Director's Cut
wrfan
01-25-2007, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Ardiem3
Is it just me, or did Clark not seem as upset or moved as when Lana died in "Recknoning." Although he didnt cry when Lana died in that episode, i thought, seeing as Chloe is his best friend, that he would have shed a tear when Chloe died IMO.
He was so self-absorbed in the episode, he could care less. First of all, he kept listening to Lana instead of heeding Chloe's advice which basically held up Chloe and the villains caught up with her and killed her. How freaking sad is that? :(
Anyway, he was just so conflicted the whole entire time...like there were much bigger things he needed to resolve...and unfortunately, the biggest thing of all is his obsession with Lana. It looked real strange in the end, cuz it's like this last-ditch effort to save something that can NEVER be saved but still you kept holding onto it even when you know you're still gonna lose it. I think there's a word for it - PATHETIC! Yeah, that's it.
sstray72
01-25-2007, 09:42 PM
I like AM a lot, but I didn't like her performance in the death scene. It was far too over the top for me, too much gasping and eye rolling. Melodramatic! It kind of reminded me of when that black guy got shot it Terminator 2. :lol: I'm sorry, but I thought the scene was funny. I did like how it affected Clark though.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 10:41 PM
disappointing, imo.
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Laguine
That scene wasn't as good as it was suppose to me. I don't wanna complain about Alison's acting but she didn't touch me at all. If Chloe die IMO her last words would be: Clark I love you. It would be a really dramatic scene.
True if this was RW chloe yes her last words would be she luvs him,but in the dream they cut alot I dont remember hearin her say she's crazy or clark sayin he'll save her.The scene was actually much shorter,I was suprise they focus more on her expression in the DC than in the final cut
Originally posted by wrfan
He was so self-absorbed in the episode, he could care less. First of all, he kept listening to Lana instead of heeding Chloe's advice which basically held up Chloe and the villains caught up with her and killed her. How freaking sad is that? :(
Anyway, he was just so conflicted the whole entire time...like there were much bigger things he needed to resolve...and unfortunately, the biggest thing of all is his obsession with Lana. It looked real strange in the end, cuz it's like this last-ditch effort to save something that can NEVER be saved but still you kept holding onto it even when you know you're still gonna lose it. I think there's a word for it - PATHETIC! Yeah, that's it.
Sad but true,suprise he didn't learn anythin from the events in the AU but o well that's why he's the BDA.It takes awhile for it to kick in guess he'll learn in about 3 or 4 more epi's :lol:
truth=love
01-25-2007, 10:48 PM
I suggest rewatching the straightjacket scene if you think Clark wasn't that emotional about Chloe's "death". TW had tears in his eyes after he slide down and was pressing his head against the wall. The pain was much more understated then in Reckoning but it was there .
meggy
01-25-2007, 10:54 PM
in the director's cut, i kind of laughed at the death scene...all the eye rolling and such was funny....and i wasnt sad because i knew it wasnt real...now if that were to be the case in RW...then...then it's not going to be funny anymore at all....
the shot scene was indeed soooooooo much better than the director's cut...and i think some lines were changed too
HotStudsSuccess
01-26-2007, 12:22 AM
Clark was like in the Chloe's death scene "So what if Chloe dies I get to choose either Lois or Lana" with a sad expression What's one should I choose? Anyone????
:lol:
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by meggy
in the director's cut, i kind of laughed at the death scene...all the eye rolling and such was funny....and i wasnt sad because i knew it wasnt real...now if that were to be the case in RW...then...then it's not going to be funny anymore at all....
the shot scene was indeed soooooooo much better than the director's cut...and i think some lines were changed too
I agree the actual scene was more dramatic than the directors cut but its obvious they cut it short.
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 12:33 AM
cheasiest death scene ever, imo. if they would have made her gaging death noises any longer, i would have had to break my video tape. I was already laughing.
i just think that scene could have been done a lot better.
Amby Leigh
01-26-2007, 12:54 AM
Was not a fan of the scene. Melodrama much?
However... more foreshadowing! I really think they are gonna kill her in the series finale, whenever that may be. They keep dropping hints, and I'd call this a BIG hint.
Clark Kent 86
01-26-2007, 01:45 AM
Hopefully they will kill her off and the sooner the better. I can't stand her, I loved watching her die to tonights episode. Good stuff.
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Clark Kent 86
Hopefully they will kill her off and the sooner the better. I can't stand her, I loved watching her die to tonights episode. Good stuff.
as much as i also want her to die, I want her death too look realistic.
her death tonight looked like a kid's way of act-dying in a 4th grade play.
griffyn612
01-26-2007, 01:59 AM
i was totally expecting Clark to look up from Chloe and yell
"KKKHHAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!"
Phantazma
01-26-2007, 05:06 AM
Clark is cold-blooded. He didn't even shed a single tear nor embrace Chloe's corpse. I think Clark would've shown more emotion over Shelby's death. She's definitely a hag in his mind. :\
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 05:09 AM
WHAT?! shelby died?! OH, HOW I MORN!!!!!
hehe, jk, sistah. i think you meant chloe. :)
Khyla
01-26-2007, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by meggy
actually, i dont think he had time to cry...and he was still trying to convince himself that it was all unreal....he didn't believe that Chloe was dead, until after the doc explained things to him and he said...
"Chloe's really dead?"..and slumped on the floor....so even though he didnt cry a river..it seemed to work with the story yes. i agree.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2007, 05:26 AM
The whole Chloe's death thing made me laugh. It was so pathetic and overdone. I mean, come on, it took her like 10 minutes to die. Make it snappy here, people!
Phantazma
01-26-2007, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
WHAT?! shelby died?! OH, HOW I MORN!!!!!
:lol:
hehe, jk, sistah. i think you meant chloe. :)
No ... sadly, I meant Shelby. *sigh* :(
Poor Clark, he missed his golden opportunity of making sweet love to Lana over Chloe's dead body. :rolleyes:
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by smallvilleobsessor17
The whole Chloe's death thing made me laugh. It was so pathetic and overdone. I mean, come on, it took her like 10 minutes to die. Make it snappy here, people!
tru dat.
Originally posted by Phantazma
:lol:
No ... sadly, I meant Shelby. *sigh* :(
wait, i got it now! I re-read your post, and now it makes sense, i just read it wrong the first time. sorry bout that!
....in my defense, it's 5:30 am here. :\
*uhoh, i am breaking a rule must keep on topic*
CLANA! NO! WHY?!?!?!
CHLOE DEATH FUNNY BWAHAHAHA!!!
woooweee, that was a close one.
Honey45
01-26-2007, 06:51 AM
I honestly didn't even clue in.
I found the whole episode very tense, but when Chloe died, I was just thinking.. ehh.
It wasn't until after a while that I realized "Oh yeah, she died".
Maybe if I hadn't known it was a dream episode beforehand..
margroks
01-26-2007, 07:05 AM
He was about to but he was pulled back into another part of the delusion. ANd no, it didn't take her long to die.
meteor_phreak
01-26-2007, 07:06 AM
i bet nobody complaining about the aired version being too long saw the directors cut. man. whew. oh. lol.
I agree that it had no impact on its own because we knew it was a dream. like if it happened at the beginning of an episode i hadn't been spoiled for, and then turned out to be a dream later, it would have been worse.
nathanjamesk1
01-26-2007, 09:33 AM
havnt read the whole thread, but heres my thought about that scene, and the end...
the death scene wasn't... emotional enough... considering the end of the movie...
and the end. clark didn't exaclty lie, when she asked, that when he realized how much she actualy means to him. and it took the dream to realize that...... he just didn't tell her of all the details, just told her what he realized.
LanaandPete
01-26-2007, 09:36 AM
Hopefully it was a foreshadow of things to come.
Chlark Kent
01-26-2007, 10:38 AM
You'd think my favorite character's death scene would stir a little emotion, but it ended up just being lame. Not as lame as the director's cut mind you, but lame none-the-less.
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
cheasiest death scene ever, imo. if they would have made her gaging death noises any longer, i would have had to break my video tape. I was already laughing.
i just think that scene could have been done a lot better.
I agree. I was watching with my husband (who barely watches "SV") and he immediately said, "This woman needs acting lessons. This is hilarious." I told him that, typically, AM is one of the best actors on the show, but I had to agree that the death scene was over the top. She couldn't pull it off. So it didn't have any emotional effect on me. I was too busy laughing.
chlarkfan333
01-26-2007, 10:47 AM
This is the first time I have been let down by AM's acting, I must admit. Clark's reaction I bought because if I was in his place I think I would have reacted disbelievingly as well. TW's acting later on when on 2 occasions he states Chloe's dead is what really got me. He really sold it to me then especially when he sinks to the floor after saying those words. Simply, heartwrenching.
amberdawn
01-26-2007, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by eas
I agree. I was watching with my husband (who barely watches "SV") and he immediately said, "This woman needs acting lessons. This is hilarious." I told him that, typically, AM is one of the best actors on the show, but I had to agree that the death scene was over the top. She couldn't pull it off. So it didn't have any emotional effect on me. I was too busy laughing.
Same here :\
biggestfan
01-26-2007, 11:35 AM
They shot Chloe and Clark took forever to respond. I thought that it was pretty cute how Chloe asked if she was going to be a Pulizer winner though.
Netwolf
01-26-2007, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Ardiem3
i thought, seeing as Chloe is his best friend, that he would have shed a tear when Chloe died IMO.
I agree or when he came out of it and hugged her at the end, it wasn't a deep, "damn I am glad it wasn't real" hug to me.
Originally posted by Zach
Well, they have to explain how Chloe isn't in the Superman Legend somehow....
Yeah and explain all the other inconsistancies as well right? When are you people going to understand this is not the original Superman mythos??? It is not the comic book nor the Christopher Reeve movies.
Mischael12
01-26-2007, 01:00 PM
Clark Rarely if ever cries even when Alicia died he barely shed a tear about maybe one.
Same with Lana's the tears were hard pressed to come out.
Even when his dad died, wasn't it like towards the end he cried?
DorkMatter
01-26-2007, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Ardiem3
Is it just me, or did Clark not seem as upset or moved as when Lana died in "Recknoning." Although he didnt cry when Lana died in that episode, i thought, seeing as Chloe is his best friend, that he would have shed a tear when Chloe died IMO.
With Lana in Reckoning, given his circumstances at the time (expecting something bad to happen), he felt a lot of rage toward Jor-El, as well as acute pain over what had been taken away from him. It was a self-centered reaction, just like when Alicia was killed. Clark's reaction to Chloe's "death" in Labyrinth was mostly shock and disbelief. I don't think he can fully imagine what his life would be without her around, but he seemed to feel like giving up after he began to accept what he saw as the truth.
You can make of this difference what you will, but there certainly was a difference. Rather than primarily feeling that something horrible had been done to him, wounding him directly, Clark's world grew a lot darker and more hopeless. I think he just felt too numb for an ostentatious display of grief.
Originally posted by wrfan
He was so self-absorbed in the episode, he could care less.
I think the opposite is true. Screaming things like "How could you take her away from ME?!" (in Reckoning) or "I loved her, and you took that away from ME!" (in Pariah) showed more concern for his own feelings and what he wanted than true grief for the departed. If he seemed self-absorbed in Labyrinth, it was probably because he actually had to use his brain a little to figure out what was real and what wasn't. I realize that we're not accustomed to seeing him do this, and frankly he's not used to doing it, either. :)
Originally posted by wrfan
First of all, he kept listening to Lana instead of heeding Chloe's advice which basically held up Chloe and the villains caught up with her and killed her. How freaking sad is that? :(
Well, Clark wasn't sure whether he and Chloe weren't both crazy. He didn't listen to Lana until he began to believe what everyone around him was telling him, and seeing Lex without legs was a lot more convincing than either Lana or Chloe were.
Originally posted by wrfan
Anyway, he was just so conflicted the whole entire time...like there were much bigger things he needed to resolve...and unfortunately, the biggest thing of all is his obsession with Lana. It looked real strange in the end, cuz it's like this last-ditch effort to save something that can NEVER be saved but still you kept holding onto it even when you know you're still gonna lose it. I think there's a word for it - PATHETIC! Yeah, that's it.
There's no denying that this is pathetic, but the bottom line is that Clark hasn't really dealt with the truth until now: that he has been holding on to a fantasy. He has a childish notion of what a relationship is and an innate image of a "dream girl" that he believes Lana to be, but she's not really that girl. He has known this for some time, but he couldn't fully accept it. It's hard for him to accept the truth because he wants that "normal," happy life that she represents. I wish that he would have realized and accepted the truth about his life and his destiny more quickly, but this step was necessary--rather late, but necessary.
Originally posted by truth=love
I suggest rewatching the straightjacket scene if you think Clark wasn't that emotional about Chloe's "death". TW had tears in his eyes after he slide down and was pressing his head against the wall. The pain was much more understated then in Reckoning but it was there .
Clark seemed devastated beyond words to me, as though nothing mattered anymore. Understated as his reaction was visually, it was almost an overreaction, portraying the future Superman losing hope like that, and being so dependent on another person. That said, it's sort of a romantic notion, too--of the "can't live without her" type rather than a strong instinctual or sexual desire. I'm not absolutely sure what TPTB were going for here, but Clark was very upset.
redraven
01-26-2007, 02:34 PM
It was the cheesiest death scene I've ever seen in my life. I was actually surprised at how bad it was considering AM usually acts pretty well. And I could have sworn that I saw a slight smile coming from Clark at the time Chloe got shot.
After that though, he seemed a little sad, but he was in denial more than anything.
wolverine316
01-26-2007, 06:10 PM
After Chloe died I am sure Clark said to himself, "one annoying hag out of the way"
Netwolf
01-27-2007, 11:37 AM
Freakin trolls are rampant in this thread!
Brian Vash Ashby
01-27-2007, 01:03 PM
What i find interesting about the death scene more than anything was Lana didnt come down to see what happened.
They could have accidentally shot clark.
Good death scene though. Very different. You dont see spasms and gasping that often, its usually just some horrid melodramatic stuff. This death was ugly, and it works well that way.
Billy Jor-El
01-27-2007, 02:18 PM
I thought AM was awesome (as usual), and thanks to not having any close neighbors I was just fine screaming "IT'S NOT REAL, IT'S NOT REAL, SHE'S OK!!!" (my cats keep looking at me like, dude, you really need help, but since I feed them they put up with it :) )
Maybe this moment will really let Extreme BDA realize how much Chloe DOES mean to him. He's counted on her for so long, what if she wasn't around? Oh, then you'll understand that you love her? BDA BDA BDA BDA. Figure it out already! She is the most perfect woman on the show (or do I keep saying that in every thread I write? :) )
It was sad that Farm Boy had to give a "something like that" to her question of was she Editor of the DP (oooh, what a concept) or a Pulitzer winner, rather than tell her what happened in the weirdo MM dream universe.
Welling_is_pretty
01-27-2007, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by sstray72
I like AM a lot, but I didn't like her performance in the death scene. It was far too over the top for me, too much gasping and eye rolling. Melodramatic!
I agree. I thought "wow, Allison sure is hamming it up!" I thought perhaps it was supposed to show us how 'not real' it was. Really show off the fakeness of Clark's reality or something. At least I hope that's what it was....
newfamfan
01-27-2007, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Welling_is_pretty
I agree. I thought "wow, Allison sure is hamming it up!" I thought perhaps it was supposed to show us how 'not real' it was. Really show off the fakeness of Clark's reality or something. At least I hope that's what it was....
I not only agree with this..but that user name is the best.
Welling_is_pretty
01-27-2007, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by newfamfan
I not only agree with this..but that user name is the best.
*blushes* thank you!
lana&Clark4ever
01-27-2007, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by wolverine316
After Chloe died I am sure Clark said to himself, "one annoying hag out of the way"
LMAO i bet he did!!
shirkie
01-27-2007, 07:50 PM
Yes, I'm sure he did because "annoying hag" is what you think of someone of whom you say "You mean more to me than you know." <Insert giant eyeroll here>
Honestly, I think the Chloe death was just to make up for all the times we've gotten to see Lana die.
shirkie
lana&Clark4ever
01-27-2007, 07:55 PM
lol if chloe was on my back all the time. i would've smacked her outta the way and tell her I AM SUPERMAN!
InLove_with_Chloe
01-27-2007, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by lana&Clark4ever
lol if chloe was on my back all the time. i would've smacked her outta the way and tell her I AM SUPERMAN!
But you're not, now are you?
:D
kiariclois
01-27-2007, 08:00 PM
I was surprised to see that... I laughed watching that scene... Something funny about that scene...
Way to Go to AM... She's a good actress...
CallMeClark
01-27-2007, 08:00 PM
Chloe's death scene was good.
And Clark was in shock for a while! He kept saying, "Chloe didn't die."
GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
01-27-2007, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Coyote
I hope this isn't foreshadowing for having her really get killed next season. Apparently the idea is in the writer's minds.
where did you hear this?
I think the show wouldn't be the same without Chloe
InLove_with_Chloe
01-27-2007, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
where did you hear this?
I think the show wouldn't be the same without Chloe
I agree. But I wouldn't be surprised if they entertained the idea of killing her off towards the very end of SV...
:(
DorkMatter
01-28-2007, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Brian Vash Ashby
Good death scene though. Very different. You dont see spasms and gasping that often, its usually just some horrid melodramatic stuff. This death was ugly, and it works well that way.
It certainly wasn't a typical TV or movie depiction of a gunshot death. In fact, I think it was far more realistic than most of us could or would want to imagine. Were the spasms a result of laughable acting or a character dying suddenly from severe shock and trauma? It was also unusually difficult to predict the exact moment when she would expire, which made her death even more shocking for Clark as well as the audience.
CallMeClark
01-28-2007, 07:30 AM
Killing off Chloe in the final series will be suicide for AlMiles. I think that will be one of the biggest outrages ever.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-28-2007, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
Killing off Chloe in the final series will be suicide for AlMiles. I think that will be one of the biggest outrages ever.
Hear, hear. I hope AlMiles stop by.
CallMeClark
01-28-2007, 07:08 PM
*nods* It would do them well to listen to us for once.
Kat_Halliwell
01-28-2007, 08:31 PM
Oh my... I love AM, but this scene was... uh... hilarious! :\
I couldn't stop laughing, I mean, what's up with all that gasping and eye rolling?! It looked as if she was suffering from an electric shock or something.
Ack! I feel terribly saying that about AM :lol: :\
GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
01-28-2007, 08:33 PM
she was shot in the chest! possibly lung (gasp), heart (loss of blood, oxygen= gasping)
have some compassion
Kat_Halliwell
01-28-2007, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
have some compassion
:lol:
You're absolutely right and I'm so sorry, but I still laugh when I remember the scene.
JonStewart4President
01-28-2007, 08:47 PM
The death scene made me literally laugh out loud, it was that bad.
AM is a good actress, I usually enjoy her performances, but this was a swing and a miss. A really big miss. Over the top, is putting it kindly. Unbelievable is another way to put it.
Just bad.
TW's didn't look too broken up, but that could be put down to shock. I think TW's best acting was actually earlier when hearing Lana and Chloe each tell their story. The look of confusion and conflicting emotions of who does he trust and why, was well done.
GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
01-28-2007, 08:48 PM
WELL, the episode's dream sequence was supposed to show Clark's fears, not neccisarily be realistic
Kat_Halliwell
01-28-2007, 09:04 PM
Sure, but we're talking about acting a death scene. Whether it happened in an AU or in the RW, it's a different thing.
She died, and nobody bought it. Which means the acting was not very convincing :\
clarkandlana2
01-30-2007, 02:47 PM
IMO, her death scene was too dramatic and way overdone. :\
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