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Sk8erGur1
01-25-2007, 07:04 PM
Okay, this is thr first time I actually enjoyed a Clark and Lana scene. I never doubted that he wasn't over her but slowly and surely he's starting to realize what's meant to be.

Jaded Wolf
01-25-2007, 07:18 PM
Yeah, it kind of sounded cold too like when someone uses the line "then you woke up" to make an insult. It was almost like Clark saying, "I still love you but I am aware of reality now." It's about moving on sometimes.

mctor
01-26-2007, 12:08 AM
ya i thought by saying that he meant that he woke up and came to the reality that being with lana is only something he can dream about

ginnyfan
01-26-2007, 12:10 AM
I think that line does mean that ultimately Clana is not going to happen and Clark's going to have to move on.

Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:10 AM
Yep he WOKE UP....and Look who he sees. Oh yeah thats right, the girl of his dreams masquerading as his best friend!..."oh wait she got a boyfriend DANG IT!"

griffyn612
01-26-2007, 12:11 AM
thank god for jimmy olsen.

hassenmorad
01-26-2007, 12:14 AM
I really liked that scene. Finally, Clark told Lana what was actually on his mind. I felt sort of relieved he spoke the truth (somewhat) because I have become a little annoyed with the typical 'Lana whines that Clark won't open up' scenes- it was nice. And Lex, he was being pretty harsh to Clark, which I also liked.

griffyn612
01-26-2007, 12:18 AM
lex wasn't that harsh, he just took the opportunity to remind clark of the wedding ("wedding planner") and the fact that he doesn't trust him in the slightest ("almost sounded sincere")

i thought they were both exactly that: civil.

as in WAR!!! (wait, that's marvel...)

D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
I think that line does mean that ultimately Clana is not going to happen and Clark's going to have to move on.
True tonight was alot of forshadowin so I do agree its to show that clark knows it can never be.He jus keep makin excuses(He's protectin her/will she wont she accept him etc),but soon he'll realizes that she isn't who he wants her to be or needs.time to move on

InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:21 AM
I am hoping I will wake up soon, and all the Clana was just a dream...

D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I am hoping I will wake up soon, and all the Clana was just a dream...
Wait til he knows lana knows the secret then u'll see it was all a dream,its jus the phantom playin wit ur head :lol:

TheSupaMan
01-26-2007, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by mctor
ya i thought by saying that he meant that he woke up and came to the reality that being with lana is only something he can dream about

Exactly, it was a well put together scene.

Atomic girl
01-26-2007, 03:17 PM
You know if Lex hadn't shown up Lana would have asked Clark what he wasn't telling her...

BadToad
01-26-2007, 03:21 PM
You know if Lex hadn't shown up Lana would have asked Clark what he wasn't telling her...

I'm sure she would've. It didn't appear to me that Lana had even the slightest intention of leaving anytime soon. I guess she forgot Lex was waiting for her. But never fear, Lex showed up to piss on her like he was a dog marking his territory.

I don't want any sort of revisiting of Clana at all, but I also can't help chuckling a little that its SO very obvious that Lana would drop Lex like a hot potato, baby or no, if she could have what she wants from Clark. I like the poetic justice of that, even if I never want a Clana redux.

DorkMatter
01-26-2007, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by mctor
ya i thought by saying that he meant that he woke up and came to the reality that being with lana is only something he can dream about

And more specifically, being with the "Lana" of his dreams was not possible because she doesn't exist in reality, however much he wishes it were so. One does not necessarily have to make this interpretation, but it has been fairly clear for a long time now that Clark has illusions about Lana being the "perfect" girl of his dreams. In Accelerate, Lana even wanted him to get to know everything about her--the bad with the good--but he clearly didn't want to be bothered with reality when it came to someone he had tagged very early in life as his dream girl. Just watch the Clana scene near the end of that episode--he's quite pathetic.

For Clark to be telling the whole truth when he said that he "woke up," in my opinion he has to realize that he has no business believing that he loves Lana or that she somehow belongs with him or to him, because he simply doesn't know her well enough. Furthermore, what he has gradually learned about her in recent years has not led him to trust her, nor has it inspired love for the real person beyond his fantasy image of her. That we also see a stark contrast in how well he does know Chloe and how close they've become as a result only reinforces this aspect of his fantasy about Lana being his dream girl. Maybe he finally realized this when "Lana" faded away from his "nightmare," or maybe that just meant that he figured out which alternate universe was real. I hope it's the former, but there is too much time left in the show for me to believe that it's finally over.

Kii
01-26-2007, 04:29 PM
I actually missed this line upon my first viewing, so I was left with the belief of Clana. Made me say, "Blah, not this crap again."

But, when I watched it for a second time I really really liked the line. As other people have stated, it shows Clark has moved on and knows he has far more important things to do than to dilly dally with Lana.

ChaaBreh
01-26-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm a big Clois fan, and all the years I've read DC comics, Lana and Lois have feuded over and been rivals for Clark/Superman's love. Having said all that, I have to say that the last scene in the Talon really struck a chord with me. They both looked so regretful that their relationship didn't work out. And the stark contrast between the innocent Lana in Clark's subconscious and the more worldly, about to marry a billionaire, Lana in the Talon was amazing. I could actually feel both of their pains. It actually made me want to re-write their sordid history.

Now in the modern DC comics world, Lana is divorced from Pete and still in love with Clark, having even named the son she had with Pete - Clark. And Lana was almost a bit of a stalker - Lois had to set her in her place a few times. And she was appointed CEO of LexCorp in Lex's absence after being dethroned from the Presidency. She has told Clark that she will always love him - he has told her that he loves Lois.

Now looking at the Smallville version, you would believe that Clark would never be able to fall in love with anyone but Lana.

I hope the show goes 7 seasons so I can see how they align this Lois - Lana - Clark triangle more closely with established DC canon.

Lois and Clark's love is legendary. The only way that they can really do this is to have Clark disclose his secret to Lana and see that she really can't handle it - that she would have to share Clark with the world. Lois doesn't LIKE sharing Clark with the world, but she knows that world needs him and she's independent enough in her own right to keep herself busy (and in trouble) while he's gone.

Personally, I think if the show goes to the seventh season, they should jump-start it ahead to Clark's first day at the Daily Planet, when Lois is already an established writer. They can do flash-backs to show how they got to this point, but I would absolutely love to see a modern day "Lois and Clark" for the seventh season!

super.chrissy
01-26-2007, 08:09 PM
The final scene with Lana will most likely be one of those scenes that I won't forget. There are many like that in Smallville (but I'll save that for another thread).

I especially liked it when:

1. Lana said: "I hope that it wasn't a nightmare." (referring to Clark's dream... when we know it was)

2. Clark said: "No. We were ten years old and I gave you a plastic ring from a gumball machine at Quinn's market." (Clark was so adorable with his honesty)

3. Lana and Clark said respectively: "What happened next?" "I woke up". (These two aren't meant to be together and they both know it now.)

4. Lana said: "We were just saying goodbye." (Literally and figuratively speaking.

I like that the writers are taking their time changing Clark and Lana's relationship.

Tom Welling was perfect in this scene.

that girl
01-26-2007, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by ChaaBreh
I hope the show goes 7 seasons so I can see how they align this Lois - Lana - Clark triangle more closely with established DC canon.

I wouldn't worry too much about this. I used to be a pretty big Clana shipper but now I'm looking forward towards Clois and I really do think that Clark is beginning to let go of Lana and (as seen in Hydro) realize that he could develop feelings for Lois. Plus, SV's got at least a season and a half left in it -- that's plenty of time to have Clana redefine their relationship (at least from Clark's point of view) as one firmly planted in friendship.

lana&Clark4ever
01-26-2007, 08:33 PM
doesn't mean he's gonna move on. did you see the way they both looked into each other's EYE'S!!! oh ma lord jesus....lol they still want to be together no matter what.


and the sssloooww motion look back by lana?? haha so sweeet:D

Jephael
01-26-2007, 10:49 PM
Honestly, that was a great scene. I wanted to see Lex get all pissy and act like a jerk in public and just to give Clark a good excuse to smirk at the end!

hightower6969
01-26-2007, 11:28 PM
You know what? When Lana asked Boyscout "What happened next?" I said his line outloud before Clark even said it. Somehow I just knew those were going to be the words "I woke up." And after Clark said it, I was in amazement that I got the line correct.

XxKidMenuxX
01-27-2007, 04:04 AM
It was a relief that Clark was being truthful with Lana for once, that way she doesnt blow up at him and go off to have a cry to Lex about Clark for not telling her the truth.

vuec
01-27-2007, 04:19 AM
finally, everyone here is realizing what is meant to be of them and how it's working out. I guess I was in the wrong thread earlier, the "I still love her" thread. Good to see everyone realizing that he's beyond her now. The whole episode was basically about Clark letting go of Lana. I don't hate their relationship but it's time to move on yeah.

hightower6969
01-28-2007, 12:45 AM
IMO, I thought when Clark said " I woke up" it was to disguise the actual dream from Lana because that would've put Lana in a bigger dilemma and make her really think about holding off on the wedding. Remember guys, at the end, Clark says to Chloe that he still loves her deep inside. HINT of SPOILER Clarks feelings towards Lana is forshadowing into the next episode or two.

j-kent
01-28-2007, 12:32 PM
i think the whole scene can be read in different ways and that way significantly depends on which way the person slants with the Clana relationship. One may see it as a light of hope, or the other opposite. I was personally in the middle...cuz u never know what the writers will do with this show. I don't think it's to be read in too much and basically denoting that Clark is telling Lana his dreams and his wants, but reality is reality. IMO I don't think i would go to extent to say the scene was meant to say he's moving on

hightower6969
01-28-2007, 12:43 PM
I'm with you partial j-kent. But I just thought I leave that explanation because not too many people have thought of my version of it. I doubt Clark or Lana are really moving on eventhough it shows it because it still lingers on. The lines could have taken in either way and it is up to the upcoming episodes to play it one way or another. Just a thought of reasoning from a different perspective.

GottaLoveHotSuperHeros
01-28-2007, 02:30 PM
I thought it was a great line, showing that he understood reality, that he can't be with her anymore, it's too late for that. Also, I was glad that he understood that he would have given up everyone and everything he loved just for Lana and that's not a smart move. I feel sad for him and her, but I'm glad he has discovered reality

meteor_phreak
01-28-2007, 02:44 PM
I thought it was a great line. I don't generally read too much into the deeper meaning. I liked it, but i'll wait until the writers let us in where they want it to go. well done though.

JonStewart4President
01-28-2007, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by j-kent
i think the whole scene can be read in different ways and that way significantly depends on which way the person slants with the Clana relationship. One may see it as a light of hope, or the other opposite. I was personally in the middle...cuz u never know what the writers will do with this show. I don't think it's to be read in too much and basically denoting that Clark is telling Lana his dreams and his wants, but reality is reality. IMO I don't think i would go to extent to say the scene was meant to say he's moving on Agreed. It was left open ended enough to have deeper meaning, but what that is, is open to interpretation. I'm in the middle too, because I while I can see and hope that it could mean that he was waking up from his dream of having a normal life and having Lana's love, that he's realizing he has to let go and move foward. But then I don't think they'll actually move past the Clana for awhile. I'm not that hopeful. Wishful, yes. Hopeful, no.

Crusader
01-28-2007, 03:34 PM
that has to be my favourite clana scene, even though they are not together it was put together really well, and considering that they are both still in love with each other only makes it that more better.

LoisL
01-29-2007, 10:08 AM
It was a really good scene, imo, although my first reaction to Clark's telling Lana about his dream was that he shouldn't play w/her feelings like that. Rewatching it though, and reading this excellent discussion here, really made the whole conversation seem mature and "nice". There were layers of regret and attraction as seems usual for Clana scenes but it seemed remarkably sane after the madness of Clark's dream.

It was also a relief to have Lana normal again and made me appreciate her better!

j-kent
01-29-2007, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by LoisL
It was also a relief to have Lana normal again and made me appreciate her better!

seriously! as much as it drags on and may get annoying at times...i don't like the tension between the two and was a big relief! this Clana tension just doesn't seem right for this "superman continuation".

and quite frankly i hope that this turns out for the better so when they do move on with their lives it's in better terms...

Rhoda123
01-29-2007, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
Yep he WOKE UP....and Look who he sees. Oh yeah thats right, the girl of his dreams masquerading as his best friend!..."oh wait she got a boyfriend DANG IT!"
Ha, exactly... and I LOVE your avatar... beautiful!

nickyjean_1
01-29-2007, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by ChaaBreh
Lois and Clark's love is legendary. The only way that they can really do this is to have Clark disclose his secret to Lana and see that she really can't handle it - that she would have to share Clark with the world. Lois doesn't LIKE sharing Clark with the world, but she knows that world needs him and she's independent enough in her own right to keep herself busy (and in trouble) while he's gone.


I applaud your post but this sticks out for me.. One, I'm already seeing blind dependance to Lex.. and it's what is driving me crazy about her.. sure she was willing to kill lex when he was zod.. but that was to save the world.. Could she just stop him from going bad.. for that sake alone.. I don't believe she would be willing considering she went from the same girl who defended clark from the hate crimial way back when .. to believing that people with abliities should be studied bc you never know what dangers they can be.. (no one needs powers to be evil.. it just helps...)I wonder if that extends to her new love lex..who has his on metor freaky issues..

On the same note.. I'm glad Clark has found someone like chloe to share everything with.. and it's true I no longer want a realtionship with them because their lives as saving the world takes so much for them they do need something completely separate.. at least chloe does.. and the whole thing about having indepences is key otherwise those chloe would be going insane..

Then we have Lois.. I agree I wouldn't mind seeing them bond but anything too quick would be a dishonor to chloe imo.. but it really bugged me that Oliver didn't even try.. I mean Lois is independant enough.. Lois also has family in the military so yeah she'd understand.. but he gave up too quick.. Also there is an aspect that I believe lois loved superman before she loved clark and that's a big factor too.. it was like have mc dreamy and then finding out the other half of him is your best friend..

LorelC
01-29-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by DorkMatter
And more specifically, being with the "Lana" of his dreams was not possible because she doesn't exist in reality, however much he wishes it were so. One does not necessarily have to make this interpretation, but it has been fairly clear for a long time now that Clark has illusions about Lana being the "perfect" girl of his dreams. In Accelerate, Lana even wanted him to get to know everything about her--the bad with the good--but he clearly didn't want to be bothered with reality when it came to someone he had tagged very early in life as his dream girl. Just watch the Clana scene near the end of that episode--he's quite pathetic.



I really noticed how his dream Lana was a Lana that never existed. The real Lana HAD been with Whitney and had always been willing to move on rather than wait for him. Clark has always been in love with the idea of Lana and never the person. What was really interesting was how she kept offering him a normal life with her. It was that age old tempation to be normal, to not have responsibility or a destiny--all he needed was to get a lobatomy and lose himself (by the way it was really creepy how she stood there smiling as that drill moved towards his head). Chloe saying that Lana is like his other kryptonite is so true--Lana is what holds Clark back from accepting that he is not normal, she's what stops him from becoming Superman. I REALLY REALLY want Clark to move on, become Superman, be with Lois etc, but I know Smallville has always been about Clark's journey to get there. Thus, I had the sad realization that they won't stop with the Clana until the end. Once he truly grows up and forgets her is when he'll be free to be Superman, so I doubt we'll get to see it, as they plan to end the series at that point. :(

clarkandlana2
01-30-2007, 02:32 PM
Well, we haven't gotten a DECENT Clana scene in a while, and this was one hell of a return. When he said that.... I swear I felt my heart breaking for him. KK and TW did an amazing job with this scene. You could see the emotion in their eyes, and almost feel what they were going through. Best scene of the season, IMHO. :)

LoisL
01-30-2007, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by clarkandlana2
Well, we haven't gotten a DECENT Clana scene in a while, and this was one hell of a return. When he said that.... I swear I felt my heart breaking for him. KK and TW did an amazing job with this scene. You could see the emotion in their eyes, and almost feel what they were going through. Best scene of the season, IMHO. :)

I liked the Rage mansion scene better as Clana but this was a great scene I thought for Clark and Lana seperately as characters. They were more mature and blissfully normal. :D