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Kalel x2x2
01-25-2007, 06:56 PM
Who expected Clark to say this?
paolinki25
01-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Ah, who cares? Wake me up when it's over. It's like regressing to season 2 all over again.
*#~ ClAnAfAn99210~#*
01-25-2007, 07:02 PM
yea like the look in his eyes was like i love you and i want you to be my wife not lex's! i cant even think about it. i cant stand the way they're turning this show so bad and i can barely stand to watch it anymore. ERRRRGGGHHHH
lillie_poo_pod
01-25-2007, 07:02 PM
But he didn't say he's still IN love with her. Either way I don't care. *sighs* Back to the damn triangles.
senay-jor
01-25-2007, 07:03 PM
I hate this so much!
MidgardDragon
01-25-2007, 07:03 PM
I must admit, even though I think it's time for Clana to be over, it was very nice to see the sweet Clana from Season 1-3 back in action.
Runestone
01-25-2007, 07:03 PM
I'm going to vomit... That was actually painful to watch.
paolinki25
01-25-2007, 07:04 PM
The sweet Clana was sweet back in season 3, in my opinion. Now, it's just plain annoying.
Mary Sullivan
01-25-2007, 07:06 PM
Clark is an idiot. It's time to stop watching this show. It's not worth it.
thehenry89
01-25-2007, 07:06 PM
%$&%^ $%$% ****^&% god i hate clana, and now i've broken my new years resolution to not be so anti-clana.
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 07:06 PM
For me sweet clana was s1, s2 nice clana and s3 was barely tolerable clana. Words cant describe my feelings toward this couple.
Raging Clue
01-25-2007, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
I must admit, even though I think it's time for Clana to be over, it was very nice to see the sweet Clana from Season 1-3 back in action.
I agree with you on that one. Then when Lex walked in I got that vomit reaction and remembered that it wasn't season 3.
*#~ ClAnAfAn99210~#*
01-25-2007, 07:08 PM
yes clana this season is annoying but its my fav ship. so im al for it. but i wish clark would stop be such a baby about Lexana baby and and marriage and step up. he knows lana is still in love with him and hes still in love with her. so if he just took a chance like he did in season 2 in the second to last epi. gosh!
BlueDiamond
01-25-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Mary Sullivan
Clark is an idiot. It's time to stop watching this show. It's not worth it.
Exactly. This is easily the worst line spoken on the series thus far.
MidgardDragon
01-25-2007, 07:10 PM
People have the biggest overreaction to Clana scenes than just about anything else on the show. Honestly, I think reactions like "vomit" emotes are way over the top and just a way to draw attention to one's views on the subject.
Aloof
01-25-2007, 07:11 PM
No, kill it already!
pierreismylove
01-25-2007, 07:12 PM
This show makes The man of Steel look like an idiot.2 steps forward,2 million steps back.
shy175223
01-25-2007, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by *#~ ClAnAfAn99210~#*
yes clana this season is annoying but its my fav ship. so im al for it. but i wish clark would stop be such a baby about Lexana baby and and marriage and step up. he knows lana is still in love with him and hes still in love with her. so if he just took a chance like he did in season 2 in the second to last epi. gosh!
He not being a BABy he is being well.....smart.
Jaded Wolf
01-25-2007, 07:16 PM
I'll have to play the devil's advocate here and say I am glad to see Clark still has feelings for Lana. Sometimes a man has to stick to his guns and even though Lana is marrying Lex, it goes to show that Clark will be looking out for Lana. When Lex does hurt her, there will be hell to pay. What he said to Lex at the end was cool as well and it almost looked like the old friendship of Lex and Clark. Of course we know that cannot be.
Did anyone notice the look in Chloe's eyes when Clark said he still loved Lana though? That was definetely a look of disappointment.
Khyla
01-25-2007, 07:17 PM
GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
I HATE tptb!!! When the HELL are they going to let Clark grow up and be a friggin' MAN!
This looney-tune-Lana-love has got to stop!
He should have then and there in Chloe's arms relaized that she is the ONE! he shlould have kissed her.
Where the HELL was the KISS we kept hearing about anyway????
This is BULLSH*T !
I don't think I can watch anymore!!!
i'm just too sick of it!
:mad:
dreamscometrue
01-25-2007, 07:20 PM
I've gotta admit that the Clana thing is getting very old. It was nice to see them being nice to each other, but still. The Clana thing has to move on. It gets old watching them go back and forth. They need to move on.......
HowardFilms
01-25-2007, 07:20 PM
NO, NO, NO
FINALLY the comic version of the Clark-Lana relationship was becoming a reality on SV, where she wants him, and he's like "yeah...no"
Plus the way he looked after he kissed Lois in Hydro, I really thought he'd be after her now...never getting her, but wanting her...
Kris-El
01-25-2007, 07:20 PM
wow. its been sooo long since ive posted on this site..
for awhile i lost my smallville obsession and havent visited k-site but when i watched tonight i felt the urge to post. even though im still a fan of the Clana, I'm torn. I kind of accepted the fact that it was over for good, and this episode really has me confused. also, im a fan of Lexana so i really dont know what to make of this!
had to admit, it warmed my heart to see clark's expression when they hugged, even if it was just a dream :D
SlickBlonde
01-25-2007, 07:21 PM
I would look disappointed in him too. I mean how sick was it that he was willing to give up who he was and everything he cared about and loved to be with her. That's not what love is, it's not abandoning who you are and the responisibilities you have to be with someone. He should soooo realize with her statement that his desitny isn't to save the world but to be with her, especially right after Justice, that she is wrong for him in every way possible.
shirkie
01-25-2007, 07:22 PM
Sorry, Midgard, I'm firmly in the "I-think-I-just-threw-up-in-my-mouth" camp where Clana is concerned. AlternateUniverse!Lana was SO sappy and treacle-y I was expecting her to fart rainbows. And then, to come out of it and have Real!Clark say he still loves her... A sledgehammer to my sensibilities.
shirkie
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 07:22 PM
Calm down Khyla. :)
I said the same things to myself but then decided that I will stick around until the next hiatus. (after freak and the chimmy breakup) If clark hasnt gotten over lana (not move on with chloe, just move on darn it!) and focusing on supermanish ( :p ) storylines I give up!
Honestly the baby storyline almost made me stop watching but maybe nothing is enought to make me compleltly give it up. I feel the insane urge to stick with it (to some degree) to the end
Absentee
01-25-2007, 07:24 PM
I absolutely LOVE it!
But i knew it was going to happen :D
YAY for Clana! :rotfl:
Amylou89
01-25-2007, 07:24 PM
How could anyone hate sweet, sweet Clana?
P.S. I'm not being sarcastic
Ardiem3
01-25-2007, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Kalel x2x2
Who expected Clark to say this?
Me, SV cant let Clana go. Come on. Lets get over this Season 1-6 storyline and lets move on to bigger issues, like um.... Clark becoming Superman. Anyone agree?
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 07:26 PM
Everyone has their opinon. I just hope you dont get bombarded with the ten million reasons. :)
lillie_poo_pod
01-25-2007, 07:26 PM
*rubs ears* WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Absentee
01-25-2007, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Amylou89
How could anyone hate sweet, sweet Clana?
P.S. I'm not being sarcastic
MMMM I love it!
:rotfl:
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Absentee
I absolutely LOVE it!
But i knew it was going to happen :D
YAY for Clana! :rotfl:
Yay Clana!
shy175223
01-25-2007, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Absentee
I absolutely LOVE it!
But i knew it was going to happen :D
YAY for Clana! :rotfl:
We still got several episodes to go. .. do not hold your breath.
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 07:27 PM
I compleltely agree, Ardiem3! I am resigned to the fact that smallville clark kent and superman universer is NOTHING like the comics. But the least they could do is start moving the story along....they only have one season left! Six years and Clark hasnt changed or matured a bit! :mad:
pleasenoclois
01-25-2007, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Runestone
I'm going to vomit... That was actually painful to watch.
Yep, I threw up a little when I heard that. I stopped watching the show during season two because of Clana... I started waching again at the end of season 5 and had hoped Clana was completely over. If this phase doesn't end soon, I won't be watching anymore... again.
Absentee
01-25-2007, 07:29 PM
Once they drop Chloe as Clark's crutches, then that's when Clark will move on from Lana and since I don't see that happening, bring on the relationship! :D
Khyla
01-25-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by SlickBlonde
I would look disappointed in him too. I mean how sick was it that he was willing to give up who he was and everything he cared about and loved to be with her. That's not what love is , it's not abandoning who you are and the responisibilities you have to be with someone. He should soooo realize with her statement that his desitny isn't to save the world but to be with her, especially right after Justice, that she is wrong for him in every way possible. AMEN TO THAT!!!!
( I added the Large font for emphasis, hope you don't mind SlickBlonde :) )
shy175223
01-25-2007, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Absentee
Once they drop Chloe as Clark's crutches, then that's when Clark will move on from Lana and since I don't see that happening, bring on the relationship! :D
They only relationship they will be bringing on is friendship.
SlickBlonde
01-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Khyla
AMEN TO THAT!!!!
( I added the Large font for emphasis, hope you don't mind SlickBlonde :) )
Ha! no prob. Clana is unhealthy and those that think it's sweet, well... I won't go there
Superman's Princess
01-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by SlickBlonde
I would look disappointed in him too. I mean how sick was it that he was willing to give up who he was and everything he cared about and loved to be with her. That's not what love is, it's not abandoning who you are and the responisibilities you have to be with someone. He should soooo realize with her statement that his desitny isn't to save the world but to be with her, especially right after Justice, that she is wrong for him in every way possible.
I completely agree.
Originally posted by Ardiem3
lets move on to bigger issues, like um.... Clark becoming Superman. Anyone agree?
I do. That's why I started watching this show to see Clark become Superman.
Kalel x2x2
01-25-2007, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
They only relationship they will be bringing on is friendship.
Agreed
Ardiem3
01-25-2007, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
I compleltely agree, Ardiem3! I am resigned to the fact that smallville clark kent and superman universer is NOTHING like the comics. But the least they could do is start moving the story along....they only have one season left! Six years and Clark hasnt changed or matured a bit! :mad:
I know, thats what ive been thinking and saying. How are they possibly going to wrap up "Smallville" and the mythos in one more season. It will seem too rushed and will be ruined for many reasons. I just dont get it.
paolinki25
01-25-2007, 07:39 PM
Clana is screwed up no matter the way you look at it. They ruined it back in season 4 and 5. It's too freaking late now. They only managed to annoy the crap outta me.
BizzaroJerry
01-25-2007, 07:39 PM
< VOMITS
Tell me again WHY we watch this show.
PS well let us be on notice, spoiler rumours are just rumours, there just there to serve one thing... HYPE!...
There advertisements to get eyeballs glued to TV sets, nothing more and nothing less. I can understand if the spoilers where mistaken but if the spoilers purposely spread disinformation in a effort to market the episode as more appealing all segments of the fan base, that’s just sad and unethical.
TPTB if you want to take a story in certain direction, do it and if you take the hit, take it but please don’t sucker punch us like this.
I think in the end what people hate the most is not being made fools of BUT thinking their fools themselves.
monstra
01-25-2007, 07:39 PM
Gosh, if this were Chlark you guys wouldn't be complaining about Clark becoming Superman.
But Clana!!!!! *squeeeeeeeee*
:D
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
They only relationship they will be bringing on is friendship.
I hope at least they'll be good friends.
I wasn't expecting Clark's admission that he is 'still in love with Lana' but I knew it would come sooner or later - after all that has happened.
I just want Clark to move on already.......but I guess if he moved on that quick it'd make him look shallow.....
oh well - not an important part of the episode for me.....Clark's inner workings and weaknesses were more of an attention grabber for me.
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 07:42 PM
*sigh* given the fact that AlMiles have admited to not being comic fans and never cracked open a superman comic book, AND they didnt even know Annette O'Toole played Lana Lang in the Christopher Reeve movies...........I have no hope this story Clark Kent-wise.....I am watching for Chloe (had been watching for Lex but the whole baby - love lana thing is sooo stupid) and the eventual end, as ungratifing as it may be.
darkraya
01-25-2007, 07:43 PM
i liked clana back in season 1-4 . now its just annoying. clark should move on and get another girl. lois or chloe.
Absentee
01-25-2007, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by monstra
Gosh, if this were Chlark you guys wouldn't be complaining about Clark becoming Superman.
Yep.
I really only hear the "mythology" excuse when things don't go certain ways.
bibi_sv___clana4ever
01-25-2007, 07:47 PM
hey...new here!!!
always visited but never became a member!
I like all the ships but for some reason I can't get over clana!!
Just wanted to point out the look lana gave clark when she was leaving the talon w/ lex...I hust loved it!!!
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Absentee
Yep.
I really only hear the "mythology" excuse when things don't go certain ways.
I really hate when people clump all fans of a ship in a certain catagory. I am a huge fan of the comics first and a fan of chloe and *the unlikely to happen* chlark second. You dont know everyone you know.
TWNurse
01-25-2007, 07:50 PM
I have to say that I didn't vote b/c to me it doesn't matter either way. All this back and forth with Lana or even Chole is what leads up to Clark's transformation to Superman and eventally love for Lois. But please don't get me wrong, I am not some major Clois fan. For a few of us, we would like to see Clark happy for at least a short time.
Kalel x2x2
01-25-2007, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by bibi_sv___clana4ever
hey...new here!!!
always visited but never became a member!
I like all the ships but for some reason I can't get over clana!!
Just wanted to point out the look lana gave clark when she was leaving the talon w/ lex...I just loved it!!!
Yes that was one confusing look, welcome to the forums! :cool:
meggy
01-25-2007, 07:51 PM
damn..i guess he aint moving on huh?...AL.MILES werent kidding about the Clexana triangle huh...and then they want to throw bones at other shipps and expect us to get excited about it after this??
yeah, right...who's gonna believe that
Ardiem3
01-25-2007, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by monstra
Gosh, if this were Chlark you guys wouldn't be complaining about Clark becoming Superman.
But Clana!!!!! *squeeeeeeeee*
:D
I would. This show is suppoed to be about Clark transitioning into Superman. Not about soap opera type relationships and Clark mopping about not being with Lana. Make him get over with her and let him move towards his destiny please. His destiny is far greater than finding a girlfriend in Smallville.
Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
01-25-2007, 07:53 PM
I loved when Clark said that. Refreshing. That last scene... aww.
Guys, come on! Us Clana fans have been thru hell and back this year. And for the first time since January 26 of LAST year, I'm pleased.
And whatdoya know! Clark starred in this episode! He's getting ready to go after his girl. Good for him.
SlickBlonde
01-25-2007, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Absentee
Yep.
I really only hear the "mythology" excuse when things don't go certain ways.
i think that's because clarks love for lana in particular is his biggest obstacle in becoming superman, which was depicted quite matter-of-factly in this epi. Lana did say "your destiny isn't to save the world it's to be with me forever" and he then agrees to the treatment because she's there saying all the things he wants to hear. I see that as a strong suggestion that the writers are well aware that Clarks love for lana is holding him back. The viewers who have taken off the pink colored glasses see that.
HowardFilms
01-25-2007, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
I really hate when people clump all fans of a ship in a certain catagory. I am a huge fan of the comics first and a fan of chloe and *the unlikely to happen* chlark second. You dont know everyone you know.
Agreed. I'm a Superman fan first. Not everyone vicariously lives through television romance...I wanna see Supes. Whatever relationship best pushes the story along is the one I want. I think lana pining after clark, and clark starting to fall for Lois, with Lois oblivious and into the hero thing, is a good move for smallville. I'd hate for it to take a step back.
Coyote
01-25-2007, 07:59 PM
Clark needs to find that Dr. Hudson and get a brain treatment to get rid of his pathetic obsession with Lana. Move on, Clark.
bibi_sv___clana4ever
01-25-2007, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Kalel x2x2
Yes that was one confusing look, welcome to the forums! :cool:
I thought that too!!
Thanks for the welcome!!!
redraven
01-25-2007, 08:00 PM
Two words for that scene....WOOT WOOT!
:)
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by HowardFilms
Agreed. I'm a Superman fan first. Not everyone vicariously lives through television romance...I wanna see Supes. Whatever relationship best pushes the story along is the one I want. I think lana pining after clark, and clark starting to fall for Lois, with Lois oblivious and into the hero thing, is a good move for smallville. I'd hate for it to take a step back.
I agree,HowardFilms - While I ship chlark and really dislike the portrayal of Lois on smallville (I am not a chlois believer) I would prefer they take steps to the eventual future than moving clark continually backward with the clana cycle.
(sorry about the unneccesary 'you know' in my last post) :p
mctor
01-25-2007, 08:01 PM
i dont know why so many people hate that clark still has feelings for lana. i think is is a very good thing that he still does, he has loved her forever and to let the events that have happend since his fathers death change his feeling for her i personally think would be very unrealistic that you could love someone that much and than just have your feelings go away or to be reminded of the love you once shared(holy f@#k im like dr phil up in this beeyotch lol)
with all that being said though i do think that it is time for clark to finally make it clear to lana that they cant be together or at least stop playing games with each others feelings. maybe once she finds out about his secret that it will be made clear that all they can be is friends
smallvillereporter27
01-25-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by monstra
Gosh, if this were Chlark you guys wouldn't be complaining about Clark becoming Superman.
But Clana!!!!! *squeeeeeeeee*
:D
It's not that, it's just Clark needs to move on. If he were going out with Chloe and STILL not developing towards becoming superman, i would still be upset. Clana seems to be holding Clark back as a character. We keep seeing the same conversations about he's still in love with Lana. At least with Chlark it would be a change. If Clana wasn't so repetitive i would like it a whole lot better.
SlickBlonde
01-25-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by mctor
i dont know why so many people hate that clark still has feelings for lana. i think is is a very good thing that he still does, he has loved her forever and to let the events that have happend since his fathers death change his feeling for her i personally think would be very unrealistic that you could love someone that much and than just have your feelings go away or to be reminded of the love you once shared(holy f@#k im like dr phil up in this beeyotch lol)
At least for me it's not so much that he still has feelings for her, it's that he still wishes he could be with her. I'm sure he'll always have a special place in his heart for her and that's normal. But he's got to come to some resolve that she is not the woman he is meant to be with. He's had more than enough evidence in support of that. That would satisfy me
Raging Clue
01-25-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Kalel x2x2
Yes that was one confusing look, welcome to the forums! :cool:
That look meant that Lana knows that Clark still has feelings for her. Clark already knows that Lana has feelings for him. Atleast this is a good lead into Crimson and not just random scenes.
CallMeClark
01-25-2007, 08:09 PM
I actually have no idea why he said that. It was so apparent in the AU that he didn't trust her nor love her until like the last five minutes...
emily feist
01-25-2007, 08:09 PM
Well, I don't get how he could still love her after she got with Lex and is going to have his kid. Plus, she treated him so badly this season. I could see him wanting to protect her, but I don't get how he can love someone who didn't think twice about betraying him.
God-Man
01-25-2007, 08:10 PM
That one line ruined the episode for me. Enough of the Clana already.
Clark Kent 86
01-25-2007, 08:11 PM
I enjoyed seeing clana more than the chlark moments in this episode!
I AM ANTI-CHLARK/CHLOE! And I enjoyed seeing Chloe die!
I say bring on the clana as long as I don't have to suffer through chlark!
kkjdt
01-25-2007, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Runestone
I'm going to vomit... That was actually painful to watch.
glad I am not the only one who thought that... the entire family here were like YUCK! but we thought it would happen......:\ :rolleyes:
AndiGirl
01-25-2007, 08:12 PM
Yea he loves her...but I don't think it's how people are taking it. He's admitting that he will always love Lana, which...who didn't know that? The next scene Lana is saying "goodbye" I think he realized it's really over then. In my opinion.
God-Man
01-25-2007, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by AndiGirl
Yea he loves her...but I don't think it's how people are taking it. He's admitting that he will always love Lana, which...who didn't know that? The next scene Lana is saying "goodbye" I think he realized it's really over then. In my opinion.
I thought it was over after 'Hypnotic" last year. I also thought it could be over after "Hydro". I hope you're right though, but I expect Clark to run to the church where Lex and Lana get married to try and stop them later this year.
Raging Clue
01-25-2007, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
I actually have no idea why he said that. It was so apparent in the AU that he didn't trust her nor love her until like the last five minutes...
Maybe that peck corrupted him :lol:
shirkie
01-25-2007, 08:17 PM
I was upset when Chloe "died." It's pretty funny that Lana's "died" like 50 times on this show, though... She "died" in "Reckoning," "Thirst," "Lexmas," "Crisis," the one with the krypto-serum that let her come back to life... I'm sure I'm missing more Lana "deaths" somewhere along here.
But I think it's sick that Clark still pines for her... Especially after sacrificing his own father for her.
shirkie
suzieQ
01-25-2007, 08:22 PM
Of all the heartache this year has brought, I am feeling the CLANA LOVE!
Finally, let's see the love between these two people, without lies, be expressed as it should be! Maybe all the history, the hurt, the healing between these two people will finally show that love does endure all things. Then when the bittersweet ending happens between them, we know that their love never dies it just moves on.
HowardFilms
01-25-2007, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by God-Man
I thought it was over after 'Hypnotic" last year. I also thought it could be over after "Hydro". I hope you're right though, but I expect Clark to run to the church where Lex and Lana get married to try and stop them later this year.
Will this scene involve a donkey and a very feminine dragon?
CallMeClark
01-25-2007, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Raging Clue
Maybe that peck corrupted him :lol:
I guess so. Well, he hasn't had any in a while...
shirkie
01-25-2007, 08:25 PM
Of course their love dies... Clark ends up with Lois. Lana is not the end of his romantic life.
I'm a Chlarker, but I know Clois is the end of the line.
Clana is tired. Very, very tired. It should have ended when they ended high school because traditionally, Lana was Clark's high school love...
shirkie
Ardiem3
01-25-2007, 08:27 PM
Whats the big appeal about Lana anyways. What makes her so great to have someone pine over her for 6 years. I dont see anything. Is it just me or what...?
Originally posted by God-Man
I expect Clark to run to the church where Lex and Lana get married to try and stop them later this year.
Geez....I hope not. This isn't 'My Best Friend's Wedding' or some chick flick (not that there is anything wrong with a good chick flick) - in the end it's Superman....but I guess on the way to the end...it might get a little 'These are the days of ours lives....' :rolleyes:
Ilovebeinglost
01-25-2007, 08:59 PM
boooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
who the heck decided to write those words? for the love of krypton get over it, she's a *****.
friggin soap lovers
ThE_FaMoUs_DaRkSidE
01-25-2007, 09:10 PM
I think we made it pretty clear that clana is anoying, but we also need to get over that too, i mean SV made it obvious that clana isnt over and probably never will... BUT DARN IT WHY CANT THE WRITERS MAKE CLARK MOVE ON WITH EITHER CHLOE OR LOIS?
just wondering here... =]
ginnyfan
01-25-2007, 09:22 PM
Yes Clark loves Lana. YAWN. We knew he was lying to her way back in Season 5 when he told her he didn't love her. And what will happen next? I think Clark says it best in the Clana scene. Hopefully, he'll "wake up" and see the Lexana baby and the Lexana engagement.
You can love someone and acknowledge that it'll never work. Star-crossed indeed.
wrfan
01-25-2007, 09:32 PM
Clark looked quite pathetic in this episode. It looked like he's just gonna explode inside. I think the farm boy is feeling the pressure and is running out of time. The pregnancy is quite unexpected, the ensuing wedding is happening too fast, and Clark is obviously panicking.
They have to slow things down, so Clark can recover and have time to accept things.
jaime,oburg
01-25-2007, 09:32 PM
At this point I was really hoping that the writers would need to see it should be about building the Clana friendship before the show ends. I don't have a problem with Clark loving Lana even after he marries Lois. But the romantic angsty pining has got to end. He can still love her without being in love with her. Stop all the drama, it is so old and boring. Move on already and work on the friendship.
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
I actually have no idea why he said that. It was so apparent in the AU that he didn't trust her nor love her until like the last five minutes...
I agree that was confusin after what he saw in the AU,but I guess tptb jus had to throw that in there so it'll make more sense in crimson when he kidnaps her.Cause in hydro it looked as tho he was movin on,and in tonights epi he denied lana all thru the AU.Then sittin wit chloe he says hisself he thought he was over lana,but guess that he still luvs her.If he wouldn't have question hisself when talkin to chloe(He thought he was over her as well)then I'd be piss,but since he did I can sort of understand his comments and dont mind as much.Yes its bad to hear he didn't learn anythin from the AU dealin wit chloe/lana but jus got more confused but atleast it sets up his actions for next week.And possibly his actions for the rest of the season wit him havin to choose between the girls and the life he'd lead wit either of them
Originally posted by AndiGirl
Yea he loves her...but I don't think it's how people are taking it. He's admitting that he will always love Lana, which...who didn't know that? The next scene Lana is saying "goodbye" I think he realized it's really over then. In my opinion.
I think this is true for the time bein atleast til she learns the secret next week then her goodbye will be more so to lex than clark.But I agree tonight its more so for clark and clark realizin its finally over for good,but once she learns the secret she'll try to give clark hope thinkin he'll give them another chance.I jus think by that time clark will not feel the same and finally move on hisself,plus bein at odds wit ur bestfriend over ur lingering feelings for a pregnant ex thats engaged will help speedup the movin on process :D .Clark will definitely have his hands full and have to make a choice soon
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 10:09 PM
I almost puked when Clark said it.
And I was surprised Chloe didn't...
:mad:
cloisinmyheart
01-25-2007, 10:11 PM
i like that theyre on good terms.
but we all know they simply cant love each other. better end it sooner than later
SMG Pro
01-25-2007, 10:12 PM
Between the first two episodes back from the mid season break I thought the direction they were leading us in was going quite well, hell, maybe even incredibly well. But this. This...wtf. The whole resurrection of the clearly DEAD clana makes my head pound.
What makes it worst was seeing next week's epi preview which pretty much confirms it...My head will explode next thursday.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by cloisinmyheart
but we all know they simply cant love each other.
The problem is: 4 people don't know that: Clark, Lana, Al and Miles..
:mad:
emsfan
01-25-2007, 10:14 PM
wow i just love it when he say that!!!
griffyn612
01-25-2007, 10:14 PM
REO Speedwagon said it best.
"You should have seen by the look in my eyes
baby
There was something missing.
You should have known by the talk of my voice
maybe
But you didn't listen.
You've made dead that what you never believed
Instead you lay steel in the phrase
Or point up in innocence.
And now I know what about those mean
Still I don't remember;
'cause it was us
baby
where we thought in
And we're still together.
Can I've ment every word I've said
When I said that I love you I ment that I love you forever?
And I'm gonna keep on loving you
'cause ist's the only thing I'm longing to.
I don't wanna sleep
I just wanna keep on loving you.
And I ment every word I said when I said that I love you
I ment that I love you forever.
And I'm gonna keep on loving you
'cause it's the only thing I wanna to.
I don't wanna sleep
I just wanna keep on loving you.
Baby
I'm gonna keep on loving you
'cause it's the only thing I wanna to.
I don't wanna sleep
I just wanna keep on loving you."
truth=love
01-25-2007, 10:15 PM
I'd really love to know what TW, AM, and KK think about this.
svsabbiesv
01-25-2007, 10:17 PM
ok this is all i have to say...yes the whole clana thing has sucked bc they never got the chance to be together..but its smallville..thats the whole point! he can't be clark kent/superman. he doesnt work at the daily planet, and yes sadly clark doesnt really know what he wants in life. its taken 5 seasons to kill off jonathan and have clark think on his own...(without using chloe as much lol) but come on the writers only have what this season and maybe the 7th season.
i think this was a good episode bc even tho clark almost gave up everything for lana, he still chose to do the right thing and save the world and that means saving lana from lex!
lana will be in his life until he will go to the daily planet etc but that aint gonna be in this show.
i dont kno wat else you guys want to see..without actually being a superman movie..and if you read spoilers its going to have some chlarks in there...and come clois.l so we all can be happy =)
griffyn612
01-25-2007, 10:37 PM
I think they just paved the way for another three seasons of Clana tonight. Think of all the episodes over the custody battle over Lil' Lex, Clark having to go by the mansion to pick up the kid for Lana's alternate weekend and such.
Dramatic stuff here!
Originally posted by CallMeClark
I actually have no idea why he said that. It was so apparent in the AU that he didn't trust her nor love her until like the last five minutes...
Yeah, that ending seemed like it belonged to an entirely different episode. I think we were victims of a last-minute rewrite that wrecked an otherwise engrossing story. Lana was so menacing in a Stepfordy way, and he had to reject her and everything she stood for in order to escape. Then next thing we know, he's saying he still loves her and rushing off to talk to her. And when he says to Lex that it's good to see him out and about -- hello, just last week Clark and friends were blowing up Lex's lab because he's experimenting on people. Crimony, did someone hit a giant reset button and transport us back to Season 3?
They're making Clark look pathological and wearing out the last of our patience. I'm afraid SV lost a lot of viewers with this episode.
nemrod
01-25-2007, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Mary Sullivan
Clark is an idiot. It's time to stop watching this show. It's not worth it.
well then just stop....
CLexana<3
01-25-2007, 10:45 PM
I like Clana. I guess I'm the only one. Chloe annoys the hell out of me. She is so nosey and desperate, it's pathetic. Lana just realized something, "Lex is a bad guy. Clark is a good guy." It's not rocket science folks. It's stupid to stop liking Smallville because a love triangle you followed in seasons 1-3 came back at the end of season 6. Grow up. Please.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 10:46 PM
I agree, Clark's an idiot.
Sorry, it had to be said.
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
Yes Clark loves Lana. YAWN. We knew he was lying to her way back in Season 5 when he told her he didn't love her. And what will happen next? I think Clark says it best in the Clana scene. Hopefully, he'll "wake up" and see the Lexana baby and the Lexana engagement.
You can love someone and acknowledge that it'll never work. Star-crossed indeed.
Lets hope he wakes up u never kno wit AlMiles :lol:.For sumone willing to accept his destiny in Fallout he made it clear he was willing to give it up tonight smh
paolinki25
01-25-2007, 10:51 PM
See? This is why this whole Clana possibly getting romantically involved again annoys me so much! Look at this delusio, people! It's giving us huge ass foreshadowing of what the Clana is. IT's a freaking fantasy that will never work out. Clark needs to stop with this nonsense. Man, I hope Jorel makes a comeback to help MM and get Clark's head straighten up once and for all.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 10:52 PM
He...does...not...get...it.
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
The problem is: 4 people don't know that: Clark, Lana, Al and Miles..
:mad:
:lol:
Lostfan588
01-25-2007, 10:53 PM
I dont think Clarks an idiot. He loves Lana and always will, but some things arent meant to be in life. Lana told him "Your destiny isnt to save the world. Its to be with me FOREVER!" >:) . Well duh we know what Clarks destiny is...and Clark knows it too, thats why he DIDNT go through with the surgery. He loves Lana, but has feelings for Chloe too "You mean more to me than you know."
Foreshadowing just like Jimmy's "He's madly in love with you."
Its all starting to come to the forefront for Clark as he's realizing Clana isnt meant to be.
Even Lana said, "I knew you'd come to find Chloe." (and where was Chloe? living in the Talon.....which is Lana's old spot!) she's replacing Lana. Its all starting to develop.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 10:54 PM
How could he say that to Chloe? After all she's been through for him...
Clark's an A$$..
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
How could he say that to Chloe? After all she's been through for him...
Clark's an A$$..
If u think tonight was bad jus wait til next week when he insults her,kidnaps lana after tellin chloe he still luvs lana,then tries to ease chloe's hurt by sayin he DID/does feel sumthin more.And he wonders why she'll be upset wit him afterwards smh,cause tho the words she's been waitin to here he gives out so many mix signals that she wont believe a word he says.He'll need to do sum more convincin once chlimmy splits,and it'll get really difficult once lana learns the secret.Can u imagine clark tellin chloe lana knows and then tryin to convince her he's sorry/wants more she'll look at him crazy.Cause he cant seem to pick between the 2 so she'll do it for him by thinkin he'll pick lana and her backin off.Clark definitely after tonight will have to work to save whatever there is between him and chloe
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
ICause he cant seem to pick between the 2
Oh yes he can.
He just did today!!!
It's gonna be Clana until the end of SV, IMO...
Lostfan588
01-25-2007, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Oh yes he can.
He just did today!!!
It's gonna be Clana until the end of SV, IMO...
uhhhhh....he chose Chloe. Talon scene, remember :D ? This episode was HIGHLY symbolic. Chloe may not be the one he loves today but shes going to let him go for now bc one day he's gonna fly back to her bc she always thought he was worth the wait.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
uhhhhh....he chose Chloe. Talon scene, remember :D ? This episode was HIGHLY symbolic.
No, that was the AU...
In the RW he told Chloe to her face that he is still in love with Lana.
I would have punched him right there...
:mad:
griffyn612
01-25-2007, 11:44 PM
i still think people are reading too much into 'Chloe' and 'Lana' in the AU.
Chloe represented what was real and needed.
Lana represented what he wanted.
He chose what was real and needed over what he wanted. Typical hero sacrifice type of stuff.
that doesn't mean he's going to become Mr. Sullivan any time soon.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 11:45 PM
IMO, Clark does not need Lana and should also not want her. I've never understood what he wants from her, honestly...
griffyn612
01-25-2007, 11:50 PM
love makes people stupid.
clark is stupid, therefore he needs to be in love to explain it off.
lana was the hottest girl on the show, so obviously he loved her.
that's how love works. at least in hollywood (or canada, if that's where you want to film your show. yes, i'm talking to you, mr producer!)
darkkrypton81
01-26-2007, 12:04 AM
COME ON!! ENOUGH WITH THIS CLANA BULL****!!!!!
IT'S BEEN DONE SINCE EPISODE 1 SO ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 12:28 AM
WWWHHHHYYYY!?!?!!!! I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER!!!!! *cries hystarically*
no offence to the clana supporters, but i, personally, just want it to be over!! I hate lana so much!! *continues to throw fit*
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:31 AM
It was a tough day, I agree...
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
No, that was the AU...
In the RW he told Chloe to her face that he is still in love with Lana.
I would have punched him right there...
:mad:
So in his OWN MIND he chose Chloe OVER Lana...realizing that him and Lana are not meant to be, even though he still has some feelings for Lana, Chloe was the one who believed in him so he chose HER. He could have given up everything to be w Lana but he didnt....bc of Chloe.
WriteAngel1
01-26-2007, 12:36 AM
some people read a lot more in a situation than others, Lostfan.........maybe tomorrow will look brighter MJW and ILWC :\ :p
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 12:38 AM
i don't know how! the preview for next week made it worse! WWWWWWWWHHHHYYYY!!!!!!!
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
some people read a lot more in a situation than others, Lostfan.........maybe tomorrow will look brighter MJW and ILWC :\ :p
Let's hope so...
Although 'Crimson'...
:(
WriteAngel1
01-26-2007, 12:43 AM
Well, Trespass holds promise.......:)......and freak......and it IS february sweeps. Anything could happen!
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Let's hope so...
Although 'Crimson'...
:(
WWHHHAAAA!!!!!! *is still throwing fit, especially after thinking about the crimson preview*
man, what a way to take my love for redk clark and CRAP all over it.
Dangerous George
01-26-2007, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Ardiem3
Me, SV cant let Clana go. Come on. Lets get over this Season 1-6 storyline and lets move on to bigger issues, like um.... Clark becoming Superman. Anyone agree?
Amen to that.
GabbieW
01-26-2007, 01:31 AM
aaaggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! what was Clark thinking whe he said that... it just doesn't fit with what we saw in the dream, OMG! :mad: oh but wait a minute at least i saw chlark forshadowing;)
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 01:51 AM
I honestly thought right after he said "I almost gave up everything to be with lana (or however it went)" that he was going to say something along the lines of how ludicrous his obsession with lana was now, and how he needs to learn to move on.
but no. that would be a sane thing for him to say. *sigh* i wish i could super-smack that boy in the face sometimes. geez
...then, ofcourse, kiss it better, hehe.
boingo
01-26-2007, 02:09 AM
I was very surprised...I never thought I was ever going to hear him say that....it made me happy :)
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
I honestly thought right after he said "I almost gave up everything to be with lana (or however it went)" that he was going to say something along the lines of how ludicrous his obsession with lana was now, and how he needs to learn to move on.
but no. that would be a sane thing for him to say. *sigh* i wish i could super-smack that boy in the face sometimes. geez
...then, ofcourse, kiss it better, hehe.
Yeah, Mary. Give him some serious kissing-punishment. The boy deserves it...
I still can't believe that he actually said it...
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, Mary. Give him some serious kissing-punishment. The boy deserves it...
I still can't believe that he actually said it...
will do, sir. I'll make sure to punish him real good. ;) :cool:
Phantazma
01-26-2007, 04:31 AM
Clark's fixation with Lana is emotionally unhealthy. And it's very boring to watch. It's beating a horse to death, resurrecting the carcass, beating the carcass back to death and then repeating the cycle of resurrection and death ad nauseam. Will he ever get over Lana? Somewhere down the line, how in the world will Clark ever truly love Lois if he stays emotionally crippled by Lana? I mistakenly believed that this show was about the story of Superman not Stupidman. Now I stand corrected.
Clana is like a dinner you're forced to eat over... and over.... and over... again. Each time just a little more digested than before.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
will do, sir. I'll make sure to punish him real good. ;) :cool:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
That's my girl...
Originally posted by Phantazma
I mistakenly believed that this show was about the story of Superman not Stupidman. Now I stand corrected.
Hehe, today I agree...
BeldarofRemulak
01-26-2007, 05:20 AM
All I have to say is that I hate digression. It is time for Clark to either drop his Lana thing because its not gonna work or just tell her the truth and become friends. I am sick and tired of the same formual that they produce. Someone likes Chloe, Chloe likes Clark, Clark likes Lana, Lana's with someone else. God can the at least be more creative
His statement really isn't noteworthy, I mean we all knew, god only knows why, that he couldn't get over Lana that soon, and knowing the TPTB, they are going to milk that fact for all it's worth, but that doesn't mean that there will be Clana again. No that ship has sailed!
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2007, 05:22 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, THERE WAS CLANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maryjanewatson
01-26-2007, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by umm
His statement really isn't noteworthy, I mean we all knew, gos only knows why, that he couldn't get over Lana that soon, and knowing the TPTB, they are going to milk that fact for all it's worth, but that doesn't mean that there will be Clana again. No that ship has sailed!
....I wish it would freaking crash already. right near the titanic would be nice.
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
....I wish it would freaking crash already. right near the titanic would be nice.
Oh, trust me I know that feeling, after watching the neverending torment that is Buffy/Angel, during the Buffy years (never was I so happy about a spin off, cos it meant never having to see those two in the same room again), Clark/Lana is still a kidsgame! But painfull in its own right nevertheless! I'll give you that! So yeah that 'parkinglot for the worst relationships in the history of tv next to Titanic 'sounds like a good idea!
kkjdt
01-26-2007, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by maryjanewatson
....I wish it would freaking crash already. right near the titanic would be nice.
you know I agree...
I don't usually call anyone names even tv characters.....
but !:\ BDA
DeesRyche
01-26-2007, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by umm
Oh, trust me I know that feeling, after watching the neverending torment that is Buffy/Angel, during the Buffy years (never was I so happy about a spin off, cos it meant never having to see those two in the same room again), Clark/Lana is still a kidsgame! But painfull in its own right nevertheless! I'll give you that! So yeah that 'parkinglot for the worst relationships in the history of tv next to Titanic 'sounds like a good idea!
I agree. And I have to say Buffy became a whole lot more interesting with Buffy/Spike! Come on writers move it along already...Clark needs to be moving on.
Clark needs to be moving towards his destiny as Superman not being stuck in teen angst love never going to work relationship.
And Lana well I think she likes all the attention! Yuck!
jimmyolsenblues
01-26-2007, 06:45 AM
offtopic, but having angel turn into angelus when he is in bliss, was not a good call on those writers.
ontopic, having clark still not over lana, is not a good call on our writers.
Its just not fun to see clark as moping emo clark. We want him to accept his destiny and be a bad ass.
I see the similarities with you clearly.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 06:52 AM
I don't know if I will ever forgive Clark for saying that sentence right there...
:mad:
margroks
01-26-2007, 06:58 AM
Lana represents Clark refusing to accept his destiny. They keep telling us that's over. For hims to utter such crap made no sense. She's as nasty and self-centered in the real worls as she was portrayed by the Zoner. I think that means that Clark's sub-concsious know what she is but he keeps regressing like a child to that place where he can pretend he can be normal if he had Lana. It's pathetic and disgusting. It makes no sense at this point in the series. Actually it never made sense for the hero want such a selfish girl ever. I'm sick of Lana ville and have had enough. The writers screwed up bigtime by ruining what would have been an excellent ep with Lana crap. Lana has always sbeen an evil, selfish, psychotic witch only we now see it flat out. Why would anyone want this horrible girl?
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 07:02 AM
Homer Simpson as 'pie man' was a greater superhero than Clark...
Khyla
01-26-2007, 07:07 AM
i totally feel your pain guys, and my sentiments exactly
margroks!
i really don't know that i can continue watching with this bullsh*t they're givng us! :mad:
it made me sick to my stomach when i saw the previews for crimson
When the HELL are they going to let Clark grow up and be a friggin' MAN!
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 07:09 AM
Well, he'd have to grow some balls first...
But I think he left them with Lana 6 years ago...
lastdaughterofkrypton
01-26-2007, 07:20 AM
Still in love with the squirrel?! Why God hate me so much!!!!
Stupid Clana is like the terminator.
klepp1214
01-26-2007, 08:04 AM
Still dont understand why folks are so anti clark-lana!
Sure it becomes a bit soap-opera'ish but it "does" keep viewers regardless of how many anti romance viewers their are.
Personally, I think he needs to get with lana.. and she needs to find out. Every time he walks away like a sissy. He needs to man up, tell her the truth.. and they need to write in some other reason for them to seperate other than him being too afraid to tell her his secret. It's obvious they are still in love... bigtime. So, they only have a few choices, let them get together again and have clark be straight with her, keep them apart which wouldnt make any sense seeing as though they love one another, or let things be as they are now which would just be anti climatic.. boo.
mcgairman
01-26-2007, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I don't know if I will ever forgive Clark for saying that sentence right there...
:mad:
I'm bothered by the TPTB that can't see that their Lexana plot line is idiocy!!!
PLEASE!!! just let Clark decide to love the one person who cares about him --- CHLOE!!!
:)
LiveForever
01-26-2007, 08:24 AM
What some people don't get is that part of who Clark is, is loving Lana. She's not keeping him from his destiny. He needs to tell her about himself and I know with her good heart for humanity she would help him save the world. I don't understand why people say Lana is holding him back. The only thing holding him back is himself not being open with her.
friday
01-26-2007, 08:29 AM
I high-fived my roommate when I heard Clark say he still loved Lana!! :lol:
chlarkfan333
01-26-2007, 08:55 AM
AUClana was so twisted that I got a tremendous kick out of watching it, honestly. The only thing I couldn't wrap my mind around is why Clark would want to live in such a world in the first place. He even says he wants her (Lana) to be real.:rolleyes:
Not surprised about the return of Clexana of course, but really cannot fathom what Clark sees in the woman.
BlueDiamond
01-26-2007, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by LiveForever
What some people don't get is that part of who Clark is, is loving Lana. She's not keeping him from his destiny. He needs to tell her about himself and I know with her good heart for humanity she would help him save the world. I don't understand why people say Lana is holding him back. The only thing holding him back is himself not being open with her.
Yeah, except Lana is at least as evil as Lex, if not more so. The only reason she keeps going around Clark is to try to find out his secret, and once she does she'll end up using it against him, because even if she wasn't evil, she's careless and irresponsible about it, as seen in Reckoning, especially with her upcoming marriage to Lex.
The huge problem with the end of Labyrinth is that in the dream, Clark saw Lana encouraging him to have Kryptonite drilled into his brain, and THIS made him realize that he was still in love with her? Clana is destroying the character of Superman, because it makes Clark seem like nothing but a masochist, since Lana does nothing but hurt him...and the dream represented that to him...and he started pining for her again? It makes no sense. If she'd done anything else in the dream, it would, at least a little, but come on!
LiveForever
01-26-2007, 09:21 AM
Yeah, except Lana is at least as evil as Lex, if not more so. The only reason she keeps going around Clark is to try to find out his secret, and once she does she'll end up using it against him, because even if she wasn't evil, she's careless and irresponsible about it, as seen in Reckoning, especially with her upcoming marriage to Lex.
The huge problem with the end of Labyrinth is that in the dream, Clark saw Lana encouraging him to have Kryptonite drilled into his brain, and THIS made him realize that he was still in love with her? Clana is destroying the character of Superman, because it makes Clark seem like nothing but a masochist, since Lana does nothing but hurt him...and the dream represented that to him...and he started pining for her again? It makes no sense. If she'd done anything else in the dream, it would, at least a little, but come on!
Lana is not evil, she's good. The reason she keeps going around Clark is because she loves him and can't keep herself from him and is practically begging him to be honest with her. WHy would you say that shed use his secret against him? What would lead you to believe that? She is not careless and irresponsible. What high scholler do you know that can open and run her own business? ie: the Talon. It was the Zoner playing on his love for her, not actually Lana that was going to drill into his brain. It's not Lana that's doing the hurting, it's Clark hurting Lana and pushing her away and then saying Oh I love you come back. That would confuse anyone.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2007, 09:34 AM
Lana definitely isn't as evil as Lex. IMO, she's just trying to show him that she can be like him when necessary.
shirkie
01-26-2007, 09:37 AM
Looks like we've pretty much got a 70/30 split with the BOOOOO! winning out, heh.
shirkie
dr feelgood
01-26-2007, 09:43 AM
in next episode i wanna see clark listening to "kiss - i still love you"
DorkMatter
01-26-2007, 10:02 AM
I agree with everyone who said that Clark is slow and stupid, but was there anything in this episode that was truly surprising? Clark still has feelings for Lana, and maybe he always will. He has to deal with this, and so do we--it cannot simply be denied or dismissed, or else it would never be (for all practical purposes) over. Even if the real Lana sometimes shocks and disappoints him with her actions, he seems to carry around this perfect image of her inside, and that's pretty much what we were shown. That said, note that he didn't trust her one iota until he began to fall for the illusion of a carefree, "normal" life that he supposedly could have if he gave up and submitted to the "treatment." That's what he has always wanted, and that's what his perfect image of Lana represents for him. However, as dumb as he is, Clark finally realized that what he was seeing was not real, which is why "Lana" disappeared in that fantasy world, allowing him to "wake up" and save himself. Yes, Clark's process of getting over Lana (and learning in general) has been excruciatingly glacial, but these steps have to be taken. He has to learn how to distinguish truth from fantasy, and that's what he did quite successfully in this episode.
A while back, I had posted speculation about having an episode that paralleled The X-Files' The Sixth Extinction II: Amor Fati (literally "love of fate"), and this, in some ways, may be it. In that episode, Mulder "dreamt" that he married a former girlfriend who happened to be consorting with the enemy in reality. Many fans puked (even worse than this), but he and we had to learn why denying his destiny to pursue a "normal" life would spell doom for the world. At the end, he realized what he needed to do, and who his true soulmate was. Clark went through a similar learning process in Labyrinth, and similarly ended up expressing to Chloe--the real Chloe in the show's reality--how much she meant to him. No, they did not declare their undying love (of a romantic nature), since TPTB are not nearly done teasing us, but the long-term direction of the story with regard to Chlark appears to have been set. Now let's see whether they follow through with romantic Chlark, which could unfortunately take the rest of the series to find resolution.
Enialedam
01-26-2007, 10:04 AM
Ugh. Kill me now! The whole "Clana" thing should have died in the 3rd season ... it's steadily progressed from cute to tragically-borning and repetitive!
Rhoda123
01-26-2007, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by friday
I high-fived my roommate when I heard Clark say he still loved Lana!! :lol:
I hit my head against the wall over and over again...
LovelyLoisLane
01-26-2007, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by shirkie
Looks like we've pretty much got a 70/30 split with the BOOOOO! winning out, heh.
shirkie
With the shows writers telling us that apparently a child hood crush is a basis for 'True Love Everlasting" it's not hard to see why. I don't have a problem with them showing loving feelings between Clark and Lana, and I don't have a problem with writing them as not able to quite get over those feelings, but this "I've loved you since kindergarten" crap has to stop. It's ludicris and makes the relationship between the characters look like it's based on immature values of what love is and a character's looks.
So it's not hard to see why the "Boo!"s are winning out.
Yeah, add in my "boo". This could have been an excellent episode with great character development for Clark. What do we get instead? "I still love her." Ugh.
Absentee
01-26-2007, 10:45 AM
It's only "boo" here because ksite is biased.
I'm sure the casual viewers are saying something more along the lines, "Yes! Fly away with her Clark" :D
Ksite doesn't make up the entire fanbase. Duh.
Rhoda123
01-26-2007, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Absentee
It's only "boo" here because ksite is biased.
I'm sure the casual viewers are saying something more along the lines, "Yes! Fly away with her Clark" :D
Ksite doesn't make up the entire fanbase. Duh.
Then why are you here? Not being rude but in my opinion, most fans that I talk to anywhere are over and done with Clana.. sorry..
Absentee
01-26-2007, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Rhoda123
Then why are you here? Not being rude but in my opinion, most fans that I talk to anywhere are over and done with Clana.. sorry..
Because I want to and I can.
People I talk to at work says they were rooting for Clark and Lana. Ofcourse, I can't base it off that, because it's pointless, just like here @ Ksite. We can't say what the casual viewers want because honeslty no one can.
shirkie
01-26-2007, 10:49 AM
Let's also keep in mind KSite is the first, largest, and (IMHO) best "Smallville" fansite on the web and, IMHO, a fairly good representation of "Smallville's" fanbase. And Craig is the man. :)
shirkie
Absentee
01-26-2007, 10:50 AM
Craig is the man. I agree with that and I love Ksite I get my news here all the time.
But it does NOT represent the Smallville fanbase especially here @ the Forums.
Martin le Magicien
01-26-2007, 10:51 AM
Words are failing me.
It's now official : Time travel is more plausible than this over-stretched, unmature, infuated back-and-forth relationship.
I mean, common, stop taking me for a moron who will believe that a relationship is healthy and realistic just because two actors looks cute togheter.
BlueDiamond
01-26-2007, 10:55 AM
The only reason people in general (nothing against anyone here) could still be rooting for Clark and Lana while she's pregnant with Lex's baby is because they're confused by the nice music that plays in their scenes. Without the music, Lana's true nature would be clear. The only reason she went from "I don't know how I could have ever loved you" back to "Just let me in, Clark" is because she found out Chloe knows Clark's secret and she doesn't, and it's tearing her up inside because she can't deal with a situation not catering to her. Her Kryptonite necklace gave her the mutant power is to make people love/worship her for no reason, and just like the guy in Frozen could no longer produce his own body heat, it made it impossible for anyone to love her naturally, which is why she literally has no soul. I think Clark's subconscious mind somewhat recognizes this, due to the Labyrinth dream, I just wish he recognized it consciously as well. I don't have a problem with him still having positive feelings towards her despite her personality, but still being in love with her? Nuh-uh. I lost a lot of respect for him, if that's the only thing he got out of the dream.
BizzaroJerry
01-26-2007, 11:05 AM
LOOK at those NUMBERS WHHOOA!!!
But in the end it doesn't matter,
It's just like the last couple of American elections, who cares what the people vote like. We'll do what we want, when we want it and to hell with everyone else.
Why even have polls in the first place.
Anyone for more Clana. Trust me.. There’s a plenty more to go around…
biggestfan
01-26-2007, 11:32 AM
I thought the Clana ship sailed! Right when he gets over her a little then we are right back where we started!
khol145
01-26-2007, 11:33 AM
He loves her and will continue to do so until he falls for Lois.
Runestone
01-26-2007, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by biggestfan
I thought the Clana ship sailed! Right when he gets over her a little then we are right back where we started!
I know, this ship is so old and exhausted. I'll never understand why AlMiles have this unreleting infatuation with Lana... And Clana. They don't even care that so many fans are sick of it.
krpto
01-26-2007, 11:55 AM
I think clark will always love lana he will just get to a point where he knows he isn't meant to marry her that they can only be friends.
Dangerous George
01-26-2007, 11:56 AM
it's called ratings - they don't care about Clana, even said so in one of the DVD series, they do care about ratings though. Which is why we see the cheap thrill episodes like Justice and potential Clana stuff to see what they can draw. Out side of that, the show drags along. . .unfortunately.
peace
paolinki25
01-26-2007, 11:59 AM
See, I would understand the whole "Clark will always love her until he falls for Lois" if none of the recent events had happened, but Clark seeing how Lana has changed, she's now engaged and having Lex Luthor's child, I just cannot understand why he hasn't moved on. I undertstand if he loves her, but he needs to realize that whatever possibility of Lana and him getting romantically involved again is OVER.
i love u tom
01-26-2007, 12:03 PM
clana needs to be OVER !!! i cant stand it anymore. they cant keep going back and forth !!! u either love each other, or u dont. DECIDE !! UGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! CLANA IS OVER!! i loved it in seasons 1-3, but after that, its DONE! i was liking the clana a tinyyy bit in this episode, especially when lana told that story, i even let out a little awww, but then after she started getting scary and 6th season ish i didnt like it anymore. clana needs to be over now.
Originally posted by paolinki25
See, I would understand the whole "Clark will always love her until he falls for Lois" if none of the recent events had happened, but Clark seeing how Lana has changed, she's now engaged and having Lex Luthor's child, I just cannot understand why he hasn't moved on. I undertstand if he loves her, but he needs to realize that whatever possibility of Lana and him getting romantically involved again is OVER.
I understand having leftover feelings for someone so to speak, it's a normal reaction after an intense relationship, but seing how Lana has changed in a absolutely negative direction, which Clark has witnessed first hand, well frankly it makes him a little bit pathetic, I had expected him to wash his hands of Lana completly!
darkone
01-26-2007, 12:09 PM
I find Clarks devotion to Lana absolutely amazing.If the Clana love can survive Lexana and a baby,I cant imagine what else could prevent them from being together.Only Clarks mission to save people instead giving Lana a normal life is a possible scenario to me.Labyrinth was such a damper for every other ship besides Clana close behind Reckoning IMO.
Oh and I cant wait for more memorable moments like the Talon scene. :)
Runestone
01-26-2007, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by umm
I understand having leftover feelings for someone so to speak, it's a normal reaction after an intense relationship, but seing how Lana has changed in a absolutely negative direction, which Clark has witnessed first hand, well frankly it makes him a little bit pathetic, I had expected him to wash his hands of Lana completly!
Yeah, I can understand the leftover feelings, but "I'm still in love with her"? Definitely pathetic. Come on, this is supposed to be Superman, not another lovesick sap.
Originally posted by darkone
I find Clarks devotion to Lana absolutely amazing. I find it pathetic. If the best thing about Clana is that it makes Clark a wuss who spends the time of his life whining about being super, because that spots him from being with her, then really, I don't want to know its bad sides.
Rhoda123
01-26-2007, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by BlueDiamond
The only reason people in general (nothing against anyone here) could still be rooting for Clark and Lana while she's pregnant with Lex's baby is because they're confused by the nice music that plays in their scenes. Without the music, Lana's true nature would be clear. The only reason she went from "I don't know how I could have ever loved you" back to "Just let me in, Clark" is because she found out Chloe knows Clark's secret and she doesn't, and it's tearing her up inside because she can't deal with a situation not catering to her. Her Kryptonite necklace gave her the mutant power is to make people love/worship her for no reason, and just like the guy in Frozen could no longer produce his own body heat, it made it impossible for anyone to love her naturally, which is why she literally has no soul. I think Clark's subconscious mind somewhat recognizes this, due to the Labyrinth dream, I just wish he recognized it consciously as well. I don't have a problem with him still having positive feelings towards her despite her personality, but still being in love with her? Nuh-uh. I lost a lot of respect for him, if that's the only thing he got out of the dream.
Wow! I totally did not think of this.. you are soooo right.. she is jealous because Chloe knows and she doesn't.. how pathetic is that? I can't believe I didn't see it.. OMG!!!!!! Now I dislike Lana even more.. geez...
I lost respect for Clark too.. he is the one who wanted to end it with Lana anyway... good grief...
griffyn612
01-26-2007, 01:13 PM
Yall need to recognize that Clark has to deal with Lana just like every other drug addict.
First you realize your addiction, and quit. Then you go through the 'rediscovery' phase, where you want it again but you have to fight with all your will power to resist.
Lana is Clark's crack cocaine, not his kryptonite.
Madguitarist
01-26-2007, 01:15 PM
The only good things in this episode were J'onn and the acting of MR & TW. Where he almost gave up everything for Lana and the ending....words fail me at how stupid/dissapointing/anti-climatic/angering that was.
Originally posted by griffyn612
Yall need to recognize that Clark has to deal with Lana just like every other drug addict.
First you realize your addiction, and quit. Then you go through the 'rediscovery' phase, where you want it again but you have to fight with all your will power to resist.
Lana is Clark's crack cocaine, not his kryptonite.
I agree with this. But I think what we all have to realize is, Clark has to save Lana one last time, and that's from Lex. And the only way that will/can happen is Clark tells her his secret but they can't be together because Lex will know that she knows his secret. That will put her in danger and they will both accept the fact they can't be together. Everyone's a bit overeacting.
Christine C
01-26-2007, 02:21 PM
It did'n't surprise me Clark still loves Lana. This is why the phantom Zoner set this up. Clark did choose to give up that reality though. He also chose to follow Chloe when she walked away from Lana and him in the dream. The scene betweem him and Chloe at the end is one of the best I've ever seen. Clark finally said you have no idea what you mean to me. I don't know what I'd do without you, because he realized that even in the alternate dream sequence Chloe was the only one who believed in him. Clark finally told Chloe in a manner of sorts, how important she is to him. Now I agree I totally hate how dumb they've made this man of steel in Smallville about Lana. From this point on no piano's should have to fall out of the sky and hit Clark to wake him up about how he has to move on from Lana and see who's right in front of him, Chloe. Unfortunately, the T.P.T.B. won't allow that to happen. They will push him towards Lois. Somehow Clark will fall for her. We've already had to endure hearing the words You, know me better than anyone, spoken by Clark to Lois, and then Lois to Clark. This is because, its never actually been proven on the show. Chloe will always be the girl who Clark Kent could share his world with and depend on with his life. She should be the one, who Clark ultimately falls in love with, but alas, this is Smallville where no matter how loyal or smart a girl is, or how she works to achieve her goals none of that matters, only how totally smokin hot your body is.
Max001
01-26-2007, 02:24 PM
13 pages in less than a day..... Anyone else get the feeling that the writers know exactly how to play us?
STFanatic
01-26-2007, 02:25 PM
I am going to go watch some Andy Griffith to get the image out of my head :eek:
MetroGirl06
01-26-2007, 03:11 PM
"I still love Lana." *yawns* Could there be anything else more obvious and un-necessarily dragged out plot you have ever heard? TELL US SOMETHING WE DONT KNOW!
Clark = pathetic.
He needs a good smacking from papa Jor-el.
Jor-el: Oh come on son! Grow your balls back!
Brian Vash Ashby
01-26-2007, 03:32 PM
Hearing Clark say "I still love her" was only slightly less horrible than the Hindenburg disaster
Ive never seen Clana on any major site ive visited be a popular ship. Why do they keep dragging this up.
Lana doesnt need to be in season 7.
Fly by guy
01-26-2007, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Brian Vash Ashby
Hearing Clark say "I still love her" was only slightly less horrible than the Hindenburg disaster
Ive never seen Clana on any major site ive visited be a popular ship. Why do they keep dragging this up.
Lana doesnt need to be in season 7.
Well Clana sure seemed to revive the ratings from the doldrums of no Clana in season 4 to numbers in the 5.8-6 million range when Clana was running strong. If you want to see what happened when they broke up, check the numbers for Hynotic and all shows following. They started to fall after Reckoning. Surely there were a few Clana fans because the numbers dropped about 2 million in just a few episodes.
Clana beats Lexana with a stick.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 03:42 PM
Triangles are what brings the ratings down.
monstra
01-26-2007, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Fly by guy
Well Clana sure seemed to revive the ratings from the doldrums of no Clana in season 4 to numbers in the 5.8-6 million range when Clana was running strong. If you want to see what happened when they broke up, check the numbers for Hynotic and all shows following. They started to fall after Reckoning. Surely there were a few Clana fans because the numbers dropped about 2 million in just a few episodes.
Clana beats Lexana with a stick.
Thank you!
Im glad someone who's not a Clana fan sees it this way too.
And gosh, there should be a big ass link to Sweet in here or something, Im getting tired of people saying Clana has no internet fan base.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Like I said, Clana is extremely overrated. Just because it gets more viewers, doesn't mean it's good for the minority or for the show.
Clana has a fan base, TOO many flippin' fans. Lexana also has a fan base, but some people refuse to believe it.
=/
meteor
01-26-2007, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by vuec
I agree with this. But I think what we all have to realize is, Clark has to save Lana one last time, and that's from Lex. And the only way that will/can happen is Clark tells her his secret but they can't be together because Lex will know that she knows his secret. That will put her in danger and they will both accept the fact they can't be together. Everyone's a bit overeacting.
i agree with that..i think the reason people over react though is the fact that they have teased Lana-Clark on and off for too long, and most people are tired of it. i don't want them to go back to that personally..i want them to move it closer to the way it is in the comics between them.
Brian Vash Ashby
01-26-2007, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Fly by guy
Well Clana sure seemed to revive the ratings from the doldrums of no Clana in season 4 to numbers in the 5.8-6 million range when Clana was running strong. If you want to see what happened when they broke up, check the numbers for Hynotic and all shows following. They started to fall after Reckoning. Surely there were a few Clana fans because the numbers dropped about 2 million in just a few episodes.
Clana beats Lexana with a stick.
I suspect, if anything, much of the dwindling season 4 numbers had something to do with the fact the main storyline for that season was Lana's ass tattoo. ;)
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
I loved when Clark said that. Refreshing. That last scene... aww.
Guys, come on! Us Clana fans have been thru hell and back this year. And for the first time since January 26 of LAST year, I'm pleased.
And whatdoya know! Clark starred in this episode! He's getting ready to go after his girl. Good for him.
You guys have had enough of Clana, it's time for Lexana.
=)
chlarkfan333
01-26-2007, 04:27 PM
If I were follow that line of persuasion I would say 'we Chlarkers have been teased enough for the last 6 years, so it's time for Chlark now.' Fruitless, IMO since no fandom can claim anything's their right.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:30 PM
Chlark OR Clois, either one. I ship both.
=)
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 04:30 PM
Aww?! WTF? Lana is pregnant and engaged to another man! How is that remotely Aww worthy?
chlarkfan333
01-26-2007, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Aww?! WTF? Lana is pregnant and engaged to another man! How is that remotely Aww worthy?
Go figure.:rolleyes:
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Aww?! WTF? Lana is pregnant and engaged to another man! How is that remotely Aww worthy?
Some people on this site will never get it...
:/
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
Some people on this site will never get it...
:/
Don't worry. It's just the Clanas. That's only one small portion of the peeps that come to this site. :)
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:39 PM
That's true, it's possible that there are more Lexana fans than ever, we just are unaware of them.
Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
01-26-2007, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
You guys have had enough of Clana, it's time for Lexana.
=)
Yes, Clana fans have had Clana. I'm not going to say we haven't gotten any because that's completely false. But... (and I know I'm going to get daggers thrown at me) Clana is supposed to be together in Smallville. They are the star-crossed couple of the show. I'm not referring to Superman.
It's tough being a shipper fan on Smallville because there are SO many ups and downs. You can't just switch over to a different one either.
But so far Lexana has gotten: an engagement, them living together, a pregnancy... I mean good lord. Enough is enough!
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
That's true, it's possible that there are more Lexana fans than ever, we just are unaware of them.
True. But not only that, Lexana at least represents a PROGRESSION of the characters growth on the show while Clana represents a blatent REGRESSION. You don't have to be a fan of Lexana to see that. :D
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
Yes, Clana fans have had Clana. I'm not going to say we haven't gotten any
because that's completely false. But... (and I know I'm going to get daggers thrown at me) Clana is supposed to be together in Smallville. They are the star-crossed couple of the show. I'm not referring to Superman.
It's tough being a shipper fan on Smallville because there are SO many ups and downs. You can't just switch over to a different one either.
But so far Lexana has gotten: an engagement, them living together, a pregnancy... I mean good lord. Enough is enough!
And you don't think Lexana has it's ups and downs as well? Just because Lexana has gotten all of this, doesn't mean it won't have it's ups and downs. Lexana ISN'T all rainbows, sunshine, puppy dogs and kittens like Clana was.
Clana ISN'T supposed to be together in Smallville. It creates the triangle, and triangles are NOT good for the show, neither is Clark being a baby and pining after her.
Clana lasted for over 5 years, Lexana hasn't. The relationship (or the REAL start of it began in "Fragile"). The Clana relationship started in Season 1, and about 100 other times.
=/
Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
01-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Aww?! WTF? Lana is pregnant and engaged to another man! How is that remotely Aww worthy?
I'm not referring to that! There's not one "awww" thing about Lana being engaged to and pregnant by Lex. I was talking about the scene between Clark and Lana! The one that this thread is about. Why on earth would I think Lexana is "awww" when I have a Clana pic in my sig?
Dangerous George
01-26-2007, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Christine C
It did'n't surprise me Clark still loves Lana. This is why the phantom Zoner set this up. Clark did choose to give up that reality though. He also chose to follow Chloe when she walked away from Lana and him in the dream. The scene betweem him and Chloe at the end is one of the best I've ever seen. Clark finally said you have no idea what you mean to me. I don't know what I'd do without you, because he realized that even in the alternate dream sequence Chloe was the only one who believed in him. Clark finally told Chloe in a manner of sorts, how important she is to him. Now I agree I totally hate how dumb they've made this man of steel in Smallville about Lana. From this point on no piano's should have to fall out of the sky and hit Clark to wake him up about how he has to move on from Lana and see who's right in front of him, Chloe. Unfortunately, the T.P.T.B. won't allow that to happen. They will push him towards Lois. Somehow Clark will fall for her. We've already had to endure hearing the words You, know me better than anyone, spoken by Clark to Lois, and then Lois to Clark. This is because, its never actually been proven on the show. Chloe will always be the girl who Clark Kent could share his world with and depend on with his life. She should be the one, who Clark ultimately falls in love with, but alas, this is Smallville where no matter how loyal or smart a girl is, or how she works to achieve her goals none of that matters, only how totally smokin hot your body is.
you got all of that out of an episode? boy you are good! Bless your heart. The writing is so bad on the show it is hard to keep track of who is doing what to who. You make some good points, but the writing will never allow any arc to fully run it's trek which is bane of the show. JMHO
peace
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
Yes, Clana fans have had Clana. I'm not going to say we haven't gotten any because that's completely false. But... (and I know I'm going to get daggers thrown at me) Clana is supposed to be together in Smallville. They are the star-crossed couple of the show. I'm not referring to Superman.
It's tough being a shipper fan on Smallville because there are SO many ups and downs. You can't just switch over to a different one either.
But so far Lexana has gotten: an engagement, them living together, a pregnancy... I mean good lord. Enough is enough!
Eh? That is just proving that you aren't wanting what's best for the characters or the show, you just want what's best for your ship. You treat it likes a game. Lexana had this, so now we want this. Don't you get it? CLANA IS THE PAST!!!! It's time to move on now and keep moving on! No back peddling!
Dangerous George
01-26-2007, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
I'm not referring to that! There's not one "awww" thing about Lana being engaged to and pregnant by Lex. I was talking about the scene between Clark and Lana! The one that this thread is about. Why on earth would I think Lexana is "awww" when I have a Clana pic in my sig?
good points
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
I'm not referring to that! There's not one "awww" thing about Lana being engaged to and pregnant by Lex. I was talking about the scene between Clark and Lana! The one that this thread is about. Why on earth would I think Lexana is "awww" when I have a Clana pic in my sig?
That's the point!! There can be no AWWW moment with Clark and Lana while Lana is pregnant and enganged to another man! That's blatenly forgeting Lana's storyline in order to suit your Clana desires. :mad:
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:49 PM
There is no "aww" moment in Clana at all. How is pining after a girl and acting like a middle-schooler after they broke a date be "cute" in any way? I just don't get that. Then again, I don't get the way most Clana fans think.
:|
Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
01-26-2007, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Eh? That is just proving that you aren't wanting what's best for the characters or the show, you just want what's best for your ship. You treat it likes a game. Lexana had this, so now we want this. Don't you get it? CLANA IS THE PAST!!!! It's time to move on now and keep moving on! No back peddling!
Clark and Lana are characters on the show. I don't know how many times I've read, "Clana has everything, so now it's time for_______" insert a ship.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:54 PM
It's not JUST that. Why aren't Clana fans annoyed or bored by the constant pining? Face it, your ship (romance-wise) is OVER.
So? Lex is also a character. Did you forget Chloe, Martha, Lionel and Lois, too?
Just because everyone is like, "OMG!1111shiftoneoneone cLaNa is hawt!!11 the actores lokk great 2gether!!!11" Doesn't mean they should be together.
All-in-all, all it does it hurt the show more than it helps.
Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
01-26-2007, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
That's the point!! There can be no AWWW moment with Clark and Lana while Lana is pregnant and enganged to another man! That's blatenly forgeting Lana's storyline in order to suit your Clana desires. :mad:
When I said "aww" I'm not talking about Lana being pregnant and engaged to Lex. I'm talking about the dialogue and the nice moment between Clark and Lana. What's wrong with that? Clark was opening up to Lana about a dream he had about her. If I'm a Clana fan, why is that bad?
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
Clark and Lana are characters on the show.
Um? Okay. Thanks for pointing that out. I don't get why, but whatever.
I don't know how many times I've read, "Clana has everything, so now it's time for_______" insert a ship
So they do it, so now you MUST do it back? Mature, real mature. :lol:
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:01 PM
Hmm... No comment here.
shirkie
01-26-2007, 05:04 PM
Rule #10, people, Rule #10.
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Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:06 PM
These threads can get pretty harsh, I'm not surprised at people lashing out...
I had someone say I was in denial once, what do I do?
Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
01-26-2007, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
It's not JUST that. Why aren't Clana fans annoyed or bored by the constant pining? Face it, your ship (romance-wise) is OVER.
So? Lex is also a character. Did you forget Chloe, Martha, Lionel and Lois, too?
Just because everyone is like, "OMG!1111shiftoneoneone cLaNa is hawt!!11 the actores lokk great 2gether!!!11" Doesn't mean they should be together.
All-in-all, all it does it hurt the show more than it helps.
I don't see it as pining. I see it as two people who still love each other and can't be together... for now. How can you be so sure Clana is over? They're kissing next week. They now have more scenes together. They're getting closer. I have no idea if they are getting back together romantically or not. I'm not writing the show.
Lex is the bad guy on the show. He's supposed to be alone. He's being a jerk to Clark. How is Clark and Lana being together affecting Martha, Lionel, and Lois? I can how it affects Chloe because she has feelings for him.
If anything, Lexana is hurting the show. It's turned Lana into someone she's not and she doesn't seem to happy with herself right now, either.
Honestly, the argument could go on forever. We have different opinions. That's all.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:10 PM
It doesn't look comfortable, does it?
Yes, it's pining. Clark is moping and saying he still misses Lana after they broke up almost a year ago. Normal regular people would move on, so unless Clark has mental depression or something, then he should've moved on a long time ago.
Haven't you noticed that Lana is also becoming darker alongside him? Lex doesn't have to be alone, all he wants is to be loved, and he is loved by Lana. Sure, it may not seem real to you, but it's real to me, and a whole lot of Lexana fans.
Lexana isn't hurting the show persay, it's actually giving Lana a whole new character. I'd say it's much better than the whining and the secrets and lies.
:)
Mythica
01-26-2007, 05:11 PM
I don't think it's a question of whether or not I want Clark to still love Lana. The fact of the matter is Clark has always loved Lana and only pushed her away to keep her safe. He tried to deny his feelings and now he's being a man and owning up to them. It's about time they get a chance at having a meaningful, angst-free relationship without secrets and lies before he has to go away to become Superman. Lana deserves at least that much for what he's put her through. You may say she's been whining too much, but what would you do if the man you loved kept things from you? She doesn't want to let go and neither does he. That can be seen most obviously in the beautiful Clana scene at the end of "Labyrinth".
Lois is the future... Chloe is... never... and Lana is now. How will he ever learn to be honest about who he is with Lois if he doesn't grow up and be honest with Lana in the present? Lois should be thanking Lana for sticking it out with him because without her, Lois would never have a chance. He would never let anyone in again.
Flame away with the replies. I'm a Clana and I'm proud of it so I've learned to take abuse. Thus the reason I don't come here very often.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:12 PM
Clark's not a man, he's acting like a child.
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
When I said "aww" I'm not talking about Lana being pregnant and engaged to Lex. I'm talking about the dialogue and the nice moment between Clark and Lana. What's wrong with that? Clark was opening up to Lana about a dream he had about her. If I'm a Clana fan, why is that bad?
But how is that even approiate?! Clark had his chance in Hydro and he looked at her like she had cooties. No wonder Lana is so screwed up. One minutes she's something nasty stuck on his shoe and the next he's making moon eyes at her and talking about a dream where he gets to marry her instead of Lex.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:15 PM
*coughs*BIPOLAR!*coughs*
BlueDiamond
01-26-2007, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Mythica
It's about time they get a chance at having a meaningful, angst-free relationship without secrets and lies before he has to go away to become Superman. Lana deserves at least that much for what he's put her through. You may say she's been whining too much, but what would you do if the man you loved kept things from you? She doesn't want to let go and neither does he. That can be seen most obviously in the beautiful Clana scene at the end of "Labyrinth".
No, it's not, because they haven't earned it. They barely had a relationship in the first place. It doesn't say anything bad about Clark that he doesn't trust Lana, because she's not trustworthy. What is bad is that he continues to labor under the delusion that he loves her even though he doesn't trust her or know her as a person. I also don't believe Lana was ever truly in love with him, she just sensed that he would allow her to walk all over him and date several other guys, and he'd still come back to her. Which, unfortunately, is still the case. The Clana scene at the end of Labyrinth was not beautiful, because a) Lana was freaking creepy in the dream, b) he lied to her about what the dream was about, and c) She's still pregnant with Lex's baby! I personally think that were it not for the mythos, Smallville has set up for Lana to be even more evil than Lex. The show probably won't acknowledge it explicitly, but it'll continue to be implicit, especially if Lana finds out Clark's secret. There's no way that can turn out well.
Lois is the future... Chloe is... never... and Lana is now.
If this turns out to be true, this is going to make Smallville worthless, because Lana should have died a long time ago, and Chloe is way more like Lois than "Lois" is. Smallville is trapped by the mythos, if they stick to this, and considering how horrible Lana is and how anti-Lois Lois is, Smallville is going to be the worst Superman incarnation ever.
that girl
01-26-2007, 05:29 PM
Just my two cents:
I always have been, and probably always will be, a Clana shipper to some degree. I think they were adorable back in the day (ie S1, S2, S3) but I think that TPTB have taken them too far away from each other to make it plausible that they could have a romantic relationship again. So, I voted 'no' in the poll. But in my mind, anything is better than Lexana so if that means having Clana hook up again I'm all for it.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:29 PM
Wow, Lana more evil than Lex? I like the sound of that!
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Luv Clana/Hate Lexana
I don't see it as pining. I see it as two people who still love each other and can't be together... for now. How can you be so sure Clana is over? They're kissing next week. They now have more scenes together. They're getting closer. I have no idea if they are getting back together romantically or not. I'm not writing the show.
Lex is the bad guy on the show. He's supposed to be alone. He's being a jerk to Clark. How is Clark and Lana being together affecting Martha, Lionel, and Lois? I can how it affects Chloe because she has feelings for him.
If anything, Lexana is hurting the show. It's turned Lana into someone she's not and she doesn't seem to happy with herself right now, either.
Honestly, the argument could go on forever. We have different opinions. That's all.
Lexana was giving Lana a purpose outside of being Clark's obsession. Or did you actually LIKE the Stepford Pink Princess? I don't think anyone can deny that Lana rocked in Zod-Arrow. That's gutsy AlphaLana and she only gets to come out to play with Lex. Clark only stunts her growth and makes her the forever untouchable victim that must be placed on a pedastol. This episode only proves that! Clark wants a Stepford Pink Princess! Who does nothing but and live and breath for him. While Clark is locked up, she is so pathetic that she spends all her time in his barn "redocorating" it for him. How messed up is that? Who wants that Lana?! :eek:
Clana hurts the big three. Which is Clark, Lex, and Lana. And it hurts Chloe. And it's going to hurt Lois in Crimson pretty damn bad. Not to meniton the fact that having Clark so obsessed with Lana hurts the iconic Clois overall. It makes Lois look like she's just the last woman standing instead of Clark's TRUE LOVE. I don't see how it would bother Mionel all that much, but they've hardly even been in any episodes anyways, lol.
ClLaLeChFAN01
01-26-2007, 05:39 PM
I am going to take a line from the 3rd star wars movie after Clark said he still loves Lana...."NNNNNoooooooooooooo!"
that girl
01-26-2007, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Clark wants a Stepford Pink Princess! Who does nothing but and live and breath for him. While Clark is locked up, she is so pathetic that she spends all her time in his barn "redocorating" it for him. How messed up is that? Who wants that Lana?! :eek:
This episode did not prove that at all. All it proved was that Clark was having a hard time giving Lana up -- which is completely understandable. He's been in love with her since he was five, and he's like nineteen now. That's a pretty big chunk of his life, he's not just gonna forget about it because Lex got her pregnant. These things take time. In the alternate universe, Clark was tempted with something he's always wanted -- a normal life with Lana (remember his scene at the end of Arrival with Jonathan and Martha?). In light of the character's history, it's only natural that he would consider it. But in the end, he didn't choose that choice. And that's what matters. However, it did help him realize that he's not quite over Lana yet, which is sort of to be expected. You can't just stop loving somebody because they get engaged to someone else; love is anything but logical.
It makes Lois look like she's just the last woman standing instead of Clark's TRUE LOVE.
That's not true either. All it shows is that Clark was in love with Lana before Lois. Which no one can claim isn't part of the Superman cannon. Okay, so maybe TPTB are drawing it out a little bit, but can you blame them? SV was built with the Clana and Clex relationships as its foundation. It's hard to just give that up.
karenvforce
01-26-2007, 06:12 PM
I'm a huge Clana fan. Do I want Clark to step up to his destiny and become Superman? Of course I do, but just because he has a destiny doesn't mean that he still can't love someone. I don't see how Lana holds him back from fulfilling his destiny.
In the future once he's Superman, he falls in love with Lois. That doesn't stop him from being Superman, he still gets the job done just fine! He's been in love with Lana since he was 5 yrs old {season 2 quote}. He never said that he stopped loving her, the only reason he dumped her was to protect her because he feared for her life. In one way or another, every smart and dumb decision the guy has ever made has revolved around Lana just about.
Yes, Clark needs to step up and be a man about "Life in general", I don't think Lana is the person keeping him from that...
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by that girl
This episode did not prove that at all. All it proved was that Clark was having a hard time giving Lana up -- which is completely understandable. He's been in love with her since he was five, and he's like nineteen now. That's a pretty big chunk of his life, he's not just gonna forget about it because Lex got her pregnant. These things take time. In the alternate universe, Clark was tempted with something he's always wanted -- a normal life with Lana (remember his scene at the end of Arrival with Jonathan and Martha?). In light of the character's history, it's only natural that he would consider it. But in the end, he didn't choose that choice. And that's what matters. However, it did help him realize that he's not quite over Lana yet, which is sort of to be expected. You can't just stop loving somebody because they get engaged to someone else; love is anything but logical.
That's not true either. All it shows is that Clark was in love with Lana before Lois. Which no one can claim isn't part of the Superman cannon. Okay, so maybe TPTB are drawing it out a little bit, but can you blame them? SV was built with the Clana and Clex relationships as its foundation. It's hard to just give that up.
Maybe you don't get what I am trying to say. Look, everyone in the audience could see that Lana in crazyland was t was not the normal Lana. And by normal, I even mean pre full-on Lexana. Lana has never been so sugar-sweet. AULana that we saw in the dream world was 100% creepy Stepford Pink Princess and yet Clark couldn't see it? If he is supposed to love her so much and so truely, then why does he know Lana less than the audience does? How you can wake up and have an epiphany that you're still madly in love with someone when the only thing that dream told us about Clana was that he doesn't even know who she really is? Most importantly, when you wake up and finally do realize that she was false, that she was merely the Phantom's corrupted manifestation of her, how the hell does that make you realize that you love the real Lana - who wasn't even represented in the dream?!! Clark is in love with a fantasyland version of Lana. There's no other way to to describe it.
The question is, do YOU want to see that Lana? I sure as hell don't. Do YOU want Clark to give up his destiny to be Superman to instead hang around the pathetic excuse of a Stepford's wife that was in Labyrinth? Again, I sure as hell don't. These characters are better off apart then they'll ever be together. The only thing I could ever see happening at this point would be a freindship. But that would depend on Clark's ablitlity to get his head out of his "butt" and let Lana go.
SV was built to show the RISE of freaking SUPERMAN and the FALL of Lex Luthor. Excuse me if I want to see FOWARD progression on that instead of rewatching seasons 1-3. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by karenvforce
I'm a huge Clana fan. Do I want Clark to step up to his destiny and become Superman? Of course I do, but just because he has a destiny doesn't mean that he still can't love someone. I don't see how Lana holds him back from fulfilling his destiny.
In the future once he's Superman, he falls in love with Lois. That doesn't stop him from being Superman, he still gets the job done just fine! He's been in love with Lana since he was 5 yrs old {season 2 quote}. He never said that he stopped loving her, the only reason he dumped her was to protect her because he feared for her life. In one way or another, every smart and dumb decision the guy has ever made has revolved around Lana just about.
Yes, Clark needs to step up and be a man about "Life in general", I don't think Lana is the person keeping him from that...
Firstly, WELCOME! I noticed this was your first post! Put your feet up and stay awhile!
Lana holds Clark back because well, she just does, lol. Clark refuses to be honest with her and it always comes back to bite him in the ass. The thing is, Clark doesn't love Lana as a person, he loves the IDEA of Lana and what that represents to him. Lana is the ideal, patient, and perfect HUMAN woman. Mostly, she represents normalcy and if there is anything Clark wants more it's to be "normal". Clark doesn't want Lana to except him because he can't except himself. If Lana knows the truth, then the fantasy is over. Does that make sense? Just look at Labyrinth as proof. That's what Clark wants. He want's the Pink Princess. Too bad soo sad, because that's just not who she is. Basically, Clark is too emotionaly retarted to date anyone at this stage of his life, lol.
Dangerous George
01-26-2007, 07:56 PM
you make some good points.
He's not ready for any meaningful relationship with anybody. it is interesting to note in the two "dry runs" if you will at Clark being in a meaningful relationship with Lana they both don't turn out well. that would be reckoning and now this episode. perhaps he should take a hint and move on to becoming the Man of Steel. . . if not that, then get some serious counseling from someone that he truly respects to open up to . . . and it can't be Chloe or any of his age peers for that matter. Question is, who would that be on this show? Any ideas?
Maybe that is the reason for the Martian Manhunter? He already knows what is going on inside Clark's brain.
go figure?
lana&Clark4ever
01-26-2007, 08:22 PM
clana 4 ever and ever AMEN!!! :D
that girl
01-26-2007, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Maybe you don't get what I am trying to say. Look, everyone in the audience could see that Lana in crazyland was t was not the normal Lana. And by normal, I even mean pre full-on Lexana. Lana has never been so sugar-sweet. AULana that we saw in the dream world was 100% creepy Stepford Pink Princess and yet Clark couldn't see it? If he is supposed to love her so much and so truely, then why does he know Lana less than the audience does? How you can wake up and have an epiphany that you're still madly in love with someone when the only thing that dream told us about Clana was that he doesn't even know who she really is? Most importantly, when you wake up and finally do realize that she was false, that she was merely the Phantom's corrupted manifestation of her, how the hell does that make you realize that you love the real Lana - who wasn't even represented in the dream?!! Clark is in love with a fantasyland version of Lana. There's no other way to to describe it.
First of all, I do understand better what you were trying to say now that you've explained it, so thank you for that, but I still don't agree with you 100%.
I don't think that Clark didn't make the distinction between the alternate Lana and the real Lana because that's the Lana he's in love with but because he was under the influence of a dream that he was inflicted with by a Phantom. The Phantom had complete control over Clark's mind until the MM was successfully able to intervene and he could make Clark think whatever he wanted him to. So, while we could tell that Lana was exactly acting like Lana, he couldn't. And even if I'm interpreting wrong, this Lana was saying all the things Clark has always wanted her to say (about loving him and wanting to be with him and especially not loving Lex) so he probably was a bit distracted by all the fantasy fullfillment; I know I would be.
The only thing I could ever see happening at this point would be a freindship. But that would depend on Clark's ablitlity to get his head out of his "butt" and let Lana go.
Well, I'm not suggesting that they will or should hook up again. I'm just trying to rationalize Clark's thought process. A Clana friendship would be wonderful, but it's a bit of a long shot considering their relationship these days.
vouge09
01-26-2007, 09:13 PM
I was like NO NO nonononono like lionel when he loses something over and over NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I saw it coming thought. This show is so stupid I dont even know why I still watch it , prob for a second of laughter of how much the superman legend is being washed away with jorel soap.
Dangerous George
01-26-2007, 10:48 PM
too funnny. lol
logan00xmn
01-26-2007, 11:01 PM
Don't care about the "ships" but this dance has gone on for too long. In Justice it seemed Clark was willing to move on and now it
's back to square one. And now it seems we have another Red K episode coming up to further retread ground already walked upon. The worst thing for any writer to do is be afraid to move the story forward and it seems that is what 's going on in Smallville which is disapointing considering Clark seemed to be growing and moving towards the road to Superman.
XxKidMenuxX
01-26-2007, 11:03 PM
I half expected it. If Clark's love brakes up Lexana I'm all for it, but i dont want Clana to re emerge.
SpeedDemon77
01-26-2007, 11:04 PM
I think it's great that Clark is still in love with Lana. It's closer to real life love that way. Doesn't just fade away....and sometimes grows stronger the more you progress and suffer through life's hardships.
Some are complaining that it means Clark's character is regressing. But funny, those same people have a whole different opinion about Chloe whenever she pines for Clark. Talk about regressing back to Seasons 1 & 2. And Chloe is supposed to be the voice of reason? :rolleyes:
She should try reasoning with her own inner demon rather than continue pining after six years for a guy who's not romantically interested in her.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by SpeedDemon77
Some are complaining that it means Clark's character is regressing. But funny, those same people have a whole different opinion about Chloe whenever she pines for Clark. Talk about regressing back to Seasons 1 & 2. And Chloe is supposed to be the voice of reason? :rolleyes:
I am against regression in both cases.
I want Clark to get over Lana. And I don't want Chloe to pine over Clark anymore...
It's as simple as that.
logan00xmn
01-26-2007, 11:15 PM
Clark still loving Lana is not an issue but that doesn't mean thay can or should be together and considering the mythos of Superman he is always going to have a special place for Lana in his heart. But come on let's get on with the story of Clark becoming Superman. There seems to be some hope of this in Crimson with Clark and Lois but with red k and all ..........well we'll see.
Also it seems to my that Chloe is movimg forward she may still love Clark but she is dating Jimmy.
Raging Clue
01-26-2007, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I am against regression in both cases.
I want Clark to get over Lana. And I don't want Chloe to pine over Clark anymore...
It's as simple as that.
You want Chloe to meet Bruce?
Btw, don't give up hope on your Chlark yet. Once Clark and Lana have a defined friendship, then you might see what you've been waiting 6 seasons to see.
Dangerous George
01-26-2007, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by logan00xmn
Don't care about the "ships" but this dance has gone on for too long. In Justice it seemed Clark was willing to move on and now it
's back to square one. And now it seems we have another Red K episode coming up to further retread ground already walked upon. The worst thing for any writer to do is be afraid to move the story forward and it seems that is what 's going on in Smallville which is disapointing considering Clark seemed to be growing and moving towards the road to Superman.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yeah right! :lol: :lol: :lol: you make me laugh :lol: :lol: :lol: good one :lol: :lol: :lol:
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by SpeedDemon77
I think it's great that Clark is still in love with Lana. It's closer to real life love that way. Doesn't just fade away....and sometimes grows stronger the more you progress and suffer through life's hardships.
Some are complaining that it means Clark's character is regressing. But funny, those same people have a whole different opinion about Chloe whenever she pines for Clark. Talk about regressing back to Seasons 1 & 2. And Chloe is supposed to be the voice of reason? :rolleyes:
She should try reasoning with her own inner demon rather than continue pining after six years for a guy who's not romantically interested in her.
Well you definately don't speak for all because I for one hate Chloe pining for Clark. It's really embarassing for her character to still be so stuck on a guy for going on six years now who obviosly doesn't love her that way. ESPECIALLY since it seemed that she had finally moved on with her life. It's pathetic, that's what that is. I just wanted to freaking slap Chloe when she made her *hurt face* to Clark when he "emo-ed" about Lana. HE DOESN'T WANT YOU! Maybe RedKClark can talk some sense into her. It'll hurt, but cripes all mighty, she needs to hear it.
Yet another reason why the triangles in this ep sucked big time. Now EVERYONE is back into there perspective S1-3 places. Clana has got to die for this offense. :mad:
logan00xmn
01-26-2007, 11:43 PM
To Dangerous George: I take it you don't think Clark was moving forward towards becoming Superman prior to this episode?Also I hope mm does come back as a mentor he seems the most logical and after this episode it seems needed.
Raging Clue
01-27-2007, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by logan00xmn
To Dangerous George: I take it you don't think Clark was moving forward towards becoming Superman prior to this episode?Also I hope mm does come back as a mentor he seems the most logical and after this episode it seems needed.
I would love to see MM come back and teach Clark how to fly.
dave73085
01-27-2007, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Absentee
Craig is the man. I agree with that and I love Ksite I get my news here all the time.
But it does NOT represent the Smallville fanbase especially here @ the Forums.
Man, if the Clanaistas think that K-site is unfriendly to them, I sure hope they never visit Television Without Pity...
I've looked at Sweet before and they love to complain about how K-site is just full of Chlarkers and Cloisers and it's not fair that they're outnumbered. I pose the question: Is there ANY site other than Sweet where fans aren't sick of the Clanagoround?
I would actually say quite the opposite, that K-site is probably the most representative of the Smallville fanbase. As opposed to, say, a Clana dedicated site. ZOMG Clana r so hawt 2gether!!1!11!one!
Romantic Clana fans may be an outspoken minority of the Smallville fanbase, but they are just that- a minority.
And as for Clana=ratings, did anyone consider that maybe the first half of S5 was overall really strong with a good arc of the aliens landing, Jor-El, Clark losing his powers and dying, etc., Fine introduced, Aquaman...which may have had very little to do with Clana? Even if there is some link, how could it be a good idea to screw up the storylines to implausibly resurrect a relationship just for ratings at the expense of character and the arcs already in motion?
Originally posted by LiveForever
What some people don't get is that part of who Clark is, is loving Lana. She's not keeping him from his destiny. He needs to tell her about himself and I know with her good heart for humanity she would help him save the world. I don't understand why people say Lana is holding him back. The only thing holding him back is himself not being open with her.
Lana? Help him save the world?? More like she would want him in Belle Reeve or locked up in 33.1, as per "Static." I think the last time we saw Lana have a good heart was the S2 premiere when she apparently helped people out after the twisters. Since then? She has a string of boyfriends that die and it doesn't really bother her too much (after all she has Clark as a backup).
And Lana unquestionably IS keeping Clark from his destiny. We know he doesn't end up with her. Time he spends wishing he could is time that he's not spending becoming the man he will be, being heroic, not being a blah emo whiny person...
Lana is so needy and self-absorbed, she would never be able "share him with the world" as any woman would have to:
-Clark you can't go save that plane that's going down, we need to talk about our relationship!
-Just tell Lex the truth your secret identity Clark! Secrets and lies are always bad, bad, bad!
-Clark, you're obsessed. Saving the world, or me!
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